It’s a Sunday Open thread.
As a theme for this thread here is some ‘religion’ / history for this Sunday Morning: Today is the celebration of the 10 Martyrs of Crete in the Orthodox Tradition.
The Ten Holy Martyrs of Crete were a group of ten Christian men from Crete who suffered martyrdom during the persecutions of emperor Decius during the third century. They are commemorated on December 23.
During the reign of the Roman emperor Decius from 249 to 251, Theodulus, Saturninus, Euporus, Gelasius, Eunician, who all were from Gortyn, Zoticus from Knossos, Pompius from Lebena, Agathopus from Panormos, Basilides from Kydonia (Hania), and Evaristus from Iraklion refused to worship at the shrine of the deity of the emperor Decius as god of Rome. The ten were brought before the governor of Crete, also named Decius. At their trial they steadfastly confessed their faith in Christ and refused to worship the emperor and other idols.
The men were then imprisoned and tortured for one month. But the torture did not change their opinions, and they continued to glorifying God. They were sentenced by the governor of Crete to be beheaded. Before their death they prayed that the Lord would enlighten their torturers with the light of the true Faith. Their executions took place in Alonion, a part of Gortyn now known to have been the main amphitheater of Gortyn.
During the reign of emperor Constantine I, the bodies of the ten saints were reburied. The site of the reburial is reported differently. In one, St. Paul of Constantinople is said to have taken the relics of the holy martyrs to Constantinople to serve as a protection for the city, and a source of blessings for the faithful. Another relates to a 1981 discovery of a sarcophagi during rescue excavation in Alonion of Gortyn as the burial site.
The Ten Holy Martyrs of Crete: Theodulus, Saturninus, Euporus, Gelasius, Eunician, Zoticus, Pompius, Agathopus, Basilides and Evaristus suffered for Christ during the third century under the emperor Decius (249-251). The governor of Crete, also named Decius, fiercely persecuted the Church, and arrested anyone who believed in Christ. Once, ten Christians were brought before him from various cities of Crete, who at the trial steadfastly confessed their faith in Christ and refused to worship idols.
For thirty days they were subjected to cruel tortures, and with the help of God they all persevered, glorifying God. Before their death they prayed that the Lord would enlighten their torturers with the light of the true Faith. Since pain did not influence them, the saints were beheaded.
St Paul of Constantinople (November 6) visited Crete about a hundred years later. He took the relics of the holy martyrs to Constantinople to serve as a protection for the city, and a source of blessings for the faithful.
Are people from Crete called Cretins?
@ Moe Katz:
Cretionists!
Get off my blog!!
//
@ Bumr50:
LOL!
cretons?
(yum!)
socialized medicine…
Cretinism. Hmm, it’s a medical condition, I didn’t know that.
@ MacDuff:
congenital hypothyroidism.
@ coldwarrior:
Just saw this:
ht- Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
If there’s any justice on the world, that pharmacy tech is now going through withdrawal in lockup.
@ Bumr50:
i cringe every time i have to sign for oc’s or morphine. these things are tightly controlled, except in the pharmacy where they are packaged.
A good thread to remember this man:
ht- Fox News
Bumr50 wrote:
well, no.
he did have more pain than needed but the lack of OC isnt going to kill him.
it seems the nurses missed signs of his pain level on the pain level assessments tho. unless he had no signs or complaints.
@ coldwarrior:
I assume only certain individuals have privileges to administer them?
I’ve heard horror stories in the past of hospital staffers cutting open fent patches and taking them orally.
Hopefully controls are tighter now.
@ Bumr50:
america wont do anything to help this christian. we only help the muzz.
he is an americn citizen tho…that might make the state dept act.
coldwarrior wrote:
Don’t hold your breath. According to his Congresswoman, Illeana somebody, State and the WH did NOTHING for Jon Hammer.
Aside:
I honestly don’t watch Fox News much anymore, but I really do enjoy their Fox & Friends weekend segments. More so than the daily version.
@ Bumr50:
i have to sign for the meds, there has to be a witness if i have to waste some, we get random drug tests.
eaglesoars wrote:
they guy is a christian as well, so i wont hold my breath.
@ Bumr50:
Check out the story on gun show attendance on their (Fox) website… Straight from Reuters, with all the lack of bias one would expect. (/)
“Americans line up to buy assault weapons”
Hey, if they were selling REAL assault weapons at an affordable price, I’d line up, too.
@ coldwarrior:
Was at GE early this morning cos’ me and the Mrs. are both under the weather.
They took the freaking Tylenol Cold off of the shelf and moved it to the pharmacy, which wasn’t open.
Oddly enough, I found Alka-Seltzer Cold tabs that contain the EXACT same ingredients on the shelf.
@ Mike C.:
If I snuck up behind you and smashed a red brick over your head, I’m pretty sure you’d classify the brick as an “assault weapon.”
Hell, it’s probably also a “hate crime” when you get right down to it.
I’m sick of PC word games.
@ Bumr50:
i guess the meth phreaks havent figured out how to extract from seltzer tablets. or the guidelines are written by an imbecile.
The Wallstreet Journal has a report about the Fiscal negotitions
between Boehner & Obama.
Apparently Boehner pointed out his concesions and asked what he would
get in return.
Obama answered “You get nothing. I get that for free.”
Mike C. wrote:
me too! i need to replace all of my guns that were lost in the blizzard / lahar of ’93.
@ RIX:
boehner should have congress pass plan b and then adjourn.
@ coldwarrior:
There have been unverified reports of Paul Ryan replacing him.
Ryan’s been a little cozy with leadership lately, but his style would be much better suited for a leadership role than what we’ve got.
Boehner actually had a good idea trying to pass a Plan B, but I fear that HIS problem is that nobody likes or trusts him. Out here or on the Hill.
Bumr50 wrote:
Fixed.
coldwarrior wrote:
He can’t seem to get enough votes.
Obama is dedicated to failure here, because he sees it as
an issue in his favor.
ht- Breitbart
Bumr50 wrote:
Personally, he WAS well liked -- until he ‘purged’ the conservatives. THEN nobody trusted him. But even before that, the impression is that he was always getting rolled by Obama.
@ Bumr50:
@ RIX:
boehner is a liability. he is weak and unpopular. this is a bonus for the dems. until he is gone, congress is fairly useless.
@ eaglesoars:
the conservatives need to purge him now. they have the power to do so.
coldwarrior wrote:
I don’t think they do. And a vote to dump him is a vote to be removed from your own committee leadership.
I need a nap
later
coldwarrior wrote:
He might be replaced by Paul Ryan.
@ eaglesoars:
then we have a spineless congress. sad days.
ya know, some folks just take the joy and magic out of everything.
it must be miserable to be associated with this guy.
miserable progressive.
@ RIX:
that would be an improvement.
hoping the Steelers will be martyrs for the Bengals
cause today./
@ coldwarrior:
The Chicago Tribune is saying that there is a movement for
Ryan.
mawskrat wrote:
me too, i dont want the steelers to win any more games this year. the season is lost and there is no reason to win and end up with lower draft picks.
rest the starters, give the 3d team a chance to play ‘live’
RIX wrote:
unpopular and spineless is no way to be a leader. time for the bawler to go.
was reading on Simo Häyhä, he was a pain in the Russians Butt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1fZHoHkoRo
@ mawskrat:
quite a record
I’m supposed to be on my way to New Mexico right now, but I have to go play mechanic instead. The heater on my car decided to go on vacation yesterday.
It seems to be an electrical problem. It worked fine on Friday.
Hopefully, it’s just a fuse.
@ lobo91:
I had an 81 Rabbit that just didn’t have a heater core.
Ran it for two winters like that.
Brrrr.
(OTOH, the little engine heated up quick!)
@ Bumr50:
84 gti!
loved that car.
Bumr50 wrote:
did they forget to put one in at he westmoreland plant?
Bumr50 wrote:
I had a ’64 VW Bug that never had heater to begin with. There were little vents on the floor that I would push open with my foot and heat from the engine would kinda drift up. No heater, thus no fan for the no heater.
My main concern is no heat means no defroster, and I’m expecting to be in snow.
@ coldwarrior:
No, technically it HAD a heater core -- it just had been inoperable for three years when I purchased it.
I paid 600 dollars for the car.
You should’ve seen what ANYBODY wanted to charge me to purchase and install the sucker.
@ Bumr50:
pull the dashboard and get down to the firewall.
very expensive
huckfunn wrote:
I had a ’71 bug with the same type of “heater”, just diverted heat from the engine. When it finally heated up it’d start burning your feet…we referred to it as a “popcorn popper”.
lobo91 wrote:
it’s 24F up in Santa Fe right now….7200ft
brrrr
@ huckfunn:
Uh, did you turn the little knob on the floor between the front seats counter-clockwise? They were pretty good at warming up after the first 25-50 miles or so…
MacDuff wrote:
Now I remember that. Another interesting feature of my bug was the gas gauge. It was right there on the dashboard where one would expect it. However, it was just for show, was never functional and was basically just glued on. When I ran out of gas, there was a little lever on the floor that I would turn with my foot that would open the 2 gallon reserve and I was good for about another 40 or 50 miles. Alot of foot work involved with those old bugs. YABBADABBA-DOO!
Mike C. wrote:
Ah, the memories. That’s exactly how it worked. Mine was the advanced “tech” model so it came with a knob for both the driver and passenger side.
@ huckfunn:
I loved my bug but it was quirky. There was some blockage behind the dash (I assumed) and whenever I ran it through the car wash suds would come through air vents on the dash. No water came through when it rained, just suds in the car wash. I had it looked at, but no one could ever quite figure it out.
huckfunn wrote:
and if you lost the keys you could push-start it LOL
Looks like Boehner might have a challenger for the Speakership here soon.
Let’s hope he gets the boot.
@ MacDuff:
You washed yours?!? In a car wash!?! One problem that mine used to have was bent push rods. The engine would start clattering and I knew I had a bent push rod. Simple solution. The valve covers were held on with sort of a clip thing. Flip the clip, pull off the valve cover, pull out the old push rod and replace with new. Apply new gasket, put the valve cover back on, flip the clip and down the road I’d go. Always kept a couple of spare gaskets and push rods.
heysoos wrote:
Pretty typical morning here this time of year.
brookly red wrote:
Yep. Also, good for a dead battery. I would always wait until the battery was dead and a half before replacing it. A rebuilt one cost $15 or $20 and where was was anyone gonna get that kind of dough and still have enough left over for beer and a lid of ganja? Always park on a slope. And there’s Huck’s tip o’ the day.
huckfunn wrote:
words to live by for sure!
62 Ghia, 64 Beetle, 68 Beetle, 72 Westphalia Camper Bus (no pop-top)… After that I switched over to heavy American iron -- Ford E-100 with the straight six and the 3-on-the-tree tranny.
coldwarrior wrote:
If I had a tattoo, it would say (in gothic letters) “Always Park on a Slope”.
huckfunn wrote:
as I recall they could also actually float… when the low spot on the parkway flooded you could drive into it and float 40 or 50 feet across.
huckfunn wrote:
The sound of those old bugs reminded me of sewing machines. After I got out of the Navy, I drove that bug across the country and back, three times -- cooler of beer in the back seat and a bag of weed in the passenger seat. Good times!
New ones could float. You had to crack a window to close the door without using excessive force.
Mike C. wrote:
your right. I remember if you slammed the door from the inside you risked popping your ear drums.
brookly red wrote:
Yes they could, it was even part of their ad campaign…
MacDuff wrote:
My frequent journey in my bug was between Dallas and Alamogordo… with 1 pal in the passenger seat and 2 in the back. Same menu of refreshments. Hauling 4 guys was quite a load for that bug. The good thing was that I could coast all of the way from Cloudcroft to Alamagordo. A bit more laborious going from Rocket City to Cloudcroft.
@ Mike C.:
@ brookly red:
Mine would probably not float. It was just a little bit hammered. Much like its master in those days.
Friend of mine in college had a 59 bus -- pickup truck version, 2 seat. Had the 36 HP engine. Going up and over Brush Mtn. in that thing was an exercise in patience…
check out the new bug…http://www.vw.com/en/models/beetle/trims-specs.s9_trimlevel_detail.suffix.html/2013-beetle~2FBeetle-2-5L.html
Marines’ new alcohol policy strictest in U.S. military
Emph. mine.
Wow.
Gotta go do Christmas No.1 of 3.
BBL kids…
I had one of these…same color
85 Vanagon…water pumper
just a hell of a lot of fun but somewhat undependable even tho the entire thing was in perfect shape inside and out
(never drive a bus any further than you want to tow it back)
http://images.google.com/imgres?q=1985+vw+vanagon&num=10&hl=en&tbo=d&biw=1059&bih=535&tbm=isch&tbnid=S_RIxqSKnRc7rM:&imgrefurl=http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1011dp_november_2010_readers_diesels/photo_02.html&docid=4RAH4gVNuFBa7M&imgurl=http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/30602785/1011dp_03_o%252B1011dp_november_2010_readers_diesels%252B1985_volkswagen_vanagon.jpg&w=1600&h=1200&ei=8DzXUP-yCIyXqAHNioCYBg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=590&vpy=77&dur=1&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=121&ty=107&sig=100557172617182790092&page=1&tbnh=145&tbnw=192&start=0&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:114
Mike C. wrote:
… and low gear. My wife’s niece showed up at our house about 15 years ago with her then current squeeze. They had mid-60′s VW bus and I think it had the pop-up. The guy was really into automotive art. He made several pool tables out of old Corvair bodies. At any rate, he had created a custom badge for the side of the bus. It read “Van de Ville”. Looked pretty cool.
@ brookly red:
Blasphemy!!
Burn Heretic!!
Hip hip… hurrah! Prince Hairy kills talibunny commander with a Hellfire. That lad needs a little R&R in some relaxing place… maybe Vegas?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
turbo-charged
Well, I reached the limit of my ability (or desire) to troubleshoot the problem. The fuses are good, and I can hear the relay click when I turn the fan switch on. Seems to me that means there’s a problem with the fan motor or the wiring going to it.
Dismantling the dash to get to it doesn’t really sound appealing to me at the moment. Maybe if it was 25 degrees warmer outside.
Of course, then I wouldn’t care about it.
Bleh.
lobo91 wrote:
Sorry to hear of yer troubles. A buddy and I once drove from Alamogordo to Denver, in January, in a ’56 Pontiac with no heater and yawning holes in the floor boards. No problem. Just be sure and have an ice scraper for inside the windshield.
big game in Dallas, playoff caliber…
lose today to NO and playoff chances almost vanish