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Mike Lupica goes after the NRA

by Rodan ( 109 Comments › )
Filed under Liberal Fascism, Progressives at December 25th, 2012 - 1:20 pm

What is it with sports writers and politics? We had in recent weeks, Bob Costas anti-gun rant and Rob Parker calling RGIII a cornball. In recent years we had the Keith Olbermann soap opera. But one of the most annoying sports writers is NY Daily News writer, Mike Lupica. When he discusses sports, Lupica is usually spot on. When he veers into politics, Mike Lupica shows his Far left colors. Inserting himself into the gun debate, he goes after the NRA and really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

So now Wayne LaPierreof the National Rifle Association, who attacks the mental health system in this country even as he sounds like he needs to be in it, goes on “Meet the Press” and continues to double down on his notion that the only way to keep our schools safe is to put armed guards at the front door and the side door and in every home room in America and maybe on every school bus, too.

The other day there was a terrific Daily News front page calling LaPierre, the NRA’s executive director, the “craziest man on Earth,” and he was clearly referencing that Sunday morning, even as he continued to sound like just one more coward made brave and tough by a gun.

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But then LaPierre is the type who lies to stay in practice, as he continues to pass himself off as the front man for responsible gun owners when he actually is a front for their lunatic fringe. To say that the NRA represents mainstream thinking for gun owners is the same as saying that the Tea Party represents mainstream thinking in the Republican Party.
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The phony is LaPierre, who chooses this moment in American history — one that should change the country and will change the country — to push his own agenda and his association’s agenda and expects people to believe that it is all about our children.

“The NRA is not going to let people lose the Second Amendment in this country,” LaPierre said Sunday, and at that point he does sound like an expert on what he calls the “cracked” mental health system, because that system is clearly doing nothing as he goes from his press conference Friday to national television sounding like a slobbering idiot.

Why can’t sports writers just stick to sports? Mike Lupica is very ignorant about politics. Just like Keith Olbermann, he’s in over his head when discussing political subjects. This rant shows Lupica’s Far Left political bias.

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  1. heysoos
    1 | December 25, 2012 1:36 pm

    all this phoney outrage and hysteria always sidetracks these blathering dupes…they fail to provide any solutions, just drooling rhetoric….why are they so afraid to spell out their answers to the problem?….do they doubt that conviscation, illegal grabbing legal arms is the solution?…chicken shit cowards


  2. RIX
    2 | December 25, 2012 1:43 pm

    Sports Jounalists are not exactly cum laude grads.
    They were mostly sub standard in J school etc &
    now try to compensate by sounding like deep thinkers.


  3. 3 | December 25, 2012 1:49 pm

    As I say, we need to expose these people for what they are: anti-Civil Rights activists. There is no difference in being pro-gun control anbd being pro–segregation. Both of them are anti-civil rights positions and both of them are dispicable. It should be shameful and career destroying to take the positions that they are taking. SOme 70% of the population supports Second Amendment rights. They are in the minority wanting stricter gun control, anyway. They are also wrong.


  4. 4 | December 25, 2012 1:51 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    There is no difference in being pro-gun control anbd being pro–segregation.

    Both positions have common origins.


  5. EBL
    5 | December 25, 2012 1:53 pm

    Lupica is a drooling moron, who likes to play with himself when speaking on TV.


  6. Speranza
    6 | December 25, 2012 1:55 pm

    He was born on Long Island and went to school in Boston. Shocker that he is a lefty. /


  7. Speranza
    7 | December 25, 2012 1:56 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Sports Jounalists are not exactly cum laude grads.
    They were mostly sub standard in J school etc &
    now try to compensate by sounding like deep thinkers.

    Jock sniffers.


  8. The Osprey
    8 | December 25, 2012 2:00 pm

    Turn off the NFL and the NBA. Pick up your rifle and go to the range or for a walk in the wild.

    Thomas Jefferson told you to.

    “A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks. (Thomas Jefferson, Encyclopedia of T. Jefferson, 318 [Foley, Ed., reissued 1967])


  9. RIX
    9 | December 25, 2012 2:05 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Sports Jounalists are not exactly cum laude grads.
    They were mostly sub standard in J school etc &
    now try to compensate by sounding like deep thinkers.

    Jock sniffers.

    True


  10. heysoos
    10 | December 25, 2012 2:06 pm

    turn off the NFL?…that does not work for me…
    have not heard of this guy til now, his opinion means nothing to me


  11. RIX
    11 | December 25, 2012 2:11 pm

    By DANIEL HALPER

    David Gregory mocked the NRA’s Wayne LaPierre for proposing that armed guards be at every school in America. But the NBC host seems to have no problem with armed guards protecting his kids everyday where they attend school in Washington, D.C.

    From Fox Nation

    The Media have no bounds when it comes to hypocrisy.


  12. 12 | December 25, 2012 2:12 pm

    @ heysoos:
    @ The Osprey:

    Good thing the NHL is off…for now…perhaps if we’re lucky, we won’t have a season this year, and I daresay the Canadian Fans are even more upset!


  13. Buffalobob
    13 | December 25, 2012 2:12 pm

    Mikey have you completed your hard hitting essay on the thuggery in the NFL? Have you researched and condemned the wife/girlfriend beaters/killers? Or is it all the NRAs fault and attribute it to guns shooty bullets?


  14. lobo91
    14 | December 25, 2012 2:19 pm

    @ Buffalobob:

    Remember, without a gun, there’s no possible way that an NFL linebacker could murder his girlfriend.

    //At least according to Bob Costas


  15. The Osprey
    15 | December 25, 2012 2:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    turn off the NFL?…that does not work for me…
    have not heard of this guy til now, his opinion means nothing to me

    Neve mind then. He’s just a DWEM. Nothing relevant to say to the new multicultural
    United Socialist States of Amerika. Enjoy your panem et circenses!


  16. 16 | December 25, 2012 2:26 pm

    httpv://youtu.be/CNQXQKflJNA

    Merry Christmas to all!


  17. lobo91
    17 | December 25, 2012 2:26 pm

    To say that the NRA represents mainstream thinking for gun owners is the same as saying that the Tea Party represents mainstream thinking in the Republican Party.

    I suspect that there’s quite a bit of overlap between the two groups, actually.

    After all, they’re both made up of people who have the crazy idea that our founding documents actually mean what they say.


  18. RIX
    18 | December 25, 2012 2:34 pm

    Buffalobob wrote:

    Mikey have you completed your hard hitting essay on the thuggery in the NFL? Have you researched and condemned the wife/girlfriend beaters/killers? Or is it all the NRAs fault and attribute it to guns shooty bullets?

    You will never hear these guys talk about the culture of
    professional sports.
    All of the baby mammas , violence against woman, substance abuse.
    nightclub thuggery & on & On.
    These guys are their golden geese, so better to blame guns or anybody
    but the perps.


  19. 19 | December 25, 2012 2:36 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Remind me, what caliber weapon did OJ Simpson use?


  20. lobo91
    20 | December 25, 2012 2:37 pm

    DC Police Investigating NBC’s Gregory for Brandishing Illegal Magazine

    Washington D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier has confirmed that the department is looking into allegations that NBC’s David Gregory violated D.C.’s gun banning laws during a recent taping of Meet the Press.

    In a discussion about gun control, host David Gregory brandished a 30-round magazine purportedly for an AR-15 or similar “assault rifle.” The discussion took place on December 23, during the broadcast of NBC’s Sunday morning political talk show.

    Washington D.C.’s gun laws, however, state that even possessing such a device is a violation. Meet the Press is filmed at NBC’s D.C. studios.

    Breitbart contacted the office of the police chief and asked if there were any plans to look into this apparent violation of the District’s gun laws. In response, Chief Lanier replied, “Yes, we are investigating the incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real.”


  21. heysoos
    21 | December 25, 2012 2:41 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    pretty wimpy insult, and Merry Christmas to you


  22. lobo91
    22 | December 25, 2012 2:41 pm

    NY Gunman Who Shot Firemen Already Barred from Owning Guns

    While liberals on Twitter pointed at the shooting of four firefighters in upstate New York as evidence that more gun control is necessary, NBC News reports that the gunman, one William Spengler, was already banned from owning guns.

    Spengler served 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer in 1980. He was convicted only of manslaughter, and was paroled in 1998. It seems that stronger sentencing for convicted murderers might be a more worthwhile goal of liberals seeking to prevent gun violence.

    Spengler shot the firefighters just before 6 a.m. ET in Webster, New York. He’d set the fire, then waited for the firefighters to show up before shooting them. “It does appear that it was a trap that was set,” said Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering. “People who get up in the middle of the night to fight fires, they don’t expect to get shot and killed.”

    Spengler shot himself.

    New York already has some of the most stringent gun laws in the nation. Felons, like Spengler, are already barred by law from owning guns according to federal law.

    It’s clearly Wayne Lapierre’s fault…
    //


  23. 23 | December 25, 2012 2:42 pm

    @ lobo91:

    This guy woul dhave no problem with you r I being jailed or even killed for violating gun laws. THey should lock him up for the maximum sentence, but, of coures, as a Media Elite nothing will happen to him. One reason people like this advocate such laws is that they know that as part of the Elite they won’t be subject to the consequences of them.


  24. 24 | December 25, 2012 2:43 pm

    The politicization of every damned facet of life, including sports, is detestable.


  25. heysoos
    25 | December 25, 2012 2:43 pm

    @ lobo91:
    maybe Chief Lanier forgot that you van perpetrate a felony with a toy gun


  26. 26 | December 25, 2012 2:44 pm

    Urban Infidel wrote:

    Merry Christmas to all!

    And to you!


  27. 27 | December 25, 2012 2:46 pm

    In light of all the idiocy, I’ve decided it’s way past time I invested in a “scary-looking assault rifle”. I wonder how the idiots feel to know that they inspired thousands to do just that.


  28. lobo91
    28 | December 25, 2012 2:47 pm

    More evidence of the success of gun ban laws:

    Bloody Christmas Eve: 7 Shot in Chicago

    Christmas Eve in Chicago was bloody – as are most evenings these days – with seven people hurt in shootings across the South Side and West Side of the city. The evening led off with a 37-year-old man taking fire to the leg and back in the South Side. At 7:30 p.m., a male opened fire in the Far South Side, hitting four other males; all four were taken to the hospital in serious or critical condition. A few hours later, a 19-year-old was shot in the head on the West side. A few hours after that, a 21-year-old took a bullet during an attempted robbery on the South Side. The assailants attempted to rob him while he sat in his car.

    Chicago is one of the most heavily gun controlled cities in the nation. The state of Illinois has an all-out ban on concealed weapons. All firearms in the city of Chiago are registered. The permit must to purchase must be renewed every three years at a cost of $100. Chicago has an assault weapons ban and a ban on magazines that carry 10 rounds. In November, shootings jumped 49 percent over the prior year. Nonetheless, Mayor Rahm Emanuel is calling for even more gun control.


  29. lobo91
    29 | December 25, 2012 2:49 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I love the typical Democrat reaction to laws that clearly don’t work: We need more laws! (that also won’t work).


  30. heysoos
    30 | December 25, 2012 2:51 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    In light of all the idiocy, I’ve decided it’s way past time I invested in a “scary-looking assault rifle”. I wonder how the idiots feel to know that they inspired thousands to do just that.

    it probably angers and frustrates them off the scale…it will harden their position, and used to support their phoney racism charges


  31. Da_Beerfreak
    31 | December 25, 2012 2:53 pm

    What’s needed is more crazy kook control not more gun control, but you know which one we’ll get. :evil:


  32. lobo91
    32 | December 25, 2012 2:55 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    What’s needed is more crazy kook control not more gun control, but you know which one we’ll get.

    The Dems will never go for controlling crazy people.

    They’re a key voting bloc for them.


  33. 33 | December 25, 2012 2:56 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Yep. I’m sure you’re right. I wonder how they think they could actually confiscate them all though. Millions and millions. Changing hands through private sales multiple times. It’s not possible to put the genie back in the bottle.


  34. Da_Beerfreak
    34 | December 25, 2012 2:56 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    I love the typical Democrat reaction to laws that clearly don’t work: We need more laws! (that also won’t work).

    One of the few things stupid lawmakers excel at is making more stupid laws that can never work. :evil:


  35. buzzsawmonkey
    35 | December 25, 2012 2:57 pm

    But one of the most annoying sports writers is NY Daily News writer, Mike Lupica. When he discusses sports, Lupica is usually spot on. When he veers into politics, Mike Lupica shows his Far left colors.

    Interestingly, George Costanza on the “Seinfeld” show mentions Mike Lupica as his favorite writer. Costanza was played by far-left Obamabot Jason Alexander, who would no doubt agree with Lupica on this topic.


  36. 36 | December 25, 2012 2:58 pm

    We’re watching A Christmas Story on TBS. I’m sure the loons hate this excellent movie. After all, the kid gets his Red Rider air gun in the end.


  37. buzzsawmonkey
    37 | December 25, 2012 2:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The Dems will never go for controlling crazy people.

    They’re a key voting bloc for them.

    Look at OWS.


  38. buzzsawmonkey
    38 | December 25, 2012 3:00 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    After all, the kid gets his Red Rider air gun in the end.

    It’d be nice if some manufacturer came out with an airgun called the “BB Netanyahu.”


  39. The Osprey
    39 | December 25, 2012 3:02 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    pretty wimpy insult, and Merry Christmas to you

    Maybe I should have used a sarc tag for the humor impaired.

    Merry Christmas to you too.


  40. 40 | December 25, 2012 3:06 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Never let a crisis go to waste. The Dems love high crime rates. It is easier to scare the people into giving up their rights when crime rates are high.


  41. lobo91
    41 | December 25, 2012 3:07 pm

    New York newspaper faces backlash after publishing map of gun permit holders

    A local New York newspaper is drawing the ire of its readers after publishing an interactive map that shows the names and addresses of thousands of residents who have handgun permits.

    The online map was published by The Journal News along with an article under the headline: “The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood.”

    The newspaper obtained, and then published, the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties through a Freedom of Information Act request.

    The article, in explaining the decision to publish the information, pointed to the school massacre in nearby Newtown, Conn., and the concerns of some residents about which of their neighbors might have firearms.

    But readers swiftly condemned the move. They pointed out that the interactive map could make the gun owners a target, but also make clear to would-be robbers which homes do not contain a gun.

    “Do you fools realize that you also made a map for criminals to use to find homes to rob that have no guns in them to protect themselves?” one reader wrote on Facebook.

    “You have just destroyed the privacy of these law abiding citizens and by releasing this list, you have equated them to that of sex offenders and murders,” wrote another. “These are law abiding gun owners, they are no danger to anyone except for criminals. And with this information you have made them targets for both criminals and anti gun lobbyist who i am sure are going to treat them like monsters.”


  42. The Osprey
    42 | December 25, 2012 3:10 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Kirly wrote:

    After all, the kid gets his Red Rider air gun in the end.

    It’d be nice if some manufacturer came out with an airgun called the “BB Netanyahu.”

    Maybe IWI will come out with an Israeli firearms airsoft line with a replica Galil, Uzi and Tavor.
    “The BB Netanyahu Collection(tm)”


  43. lobo91
    43 | December 25, 2012 3:12 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Never let a crisis go to waste. The Dems love high crime rates. It is easier to scare the people into giving up their rights when crime rates are high.

    Never mind the fact that violent crime rates have been consistently declining for most of the past 25 years or so. Facts are so inconvenient.

    Some idiot yesterday was yapping about kids being killed in firearms accidents. Again, the numbers have been steadily declining for decades (primarily due to safety training done by the NRA) and the actual number of kids killed annually now is so small as to be statistically insignificant.

    Many times more kids are killed in accidental drownings. We clearly need to ban water.
    //


  44. RIX
    44 | December 25, 2012 3:14 pm

    @ lobo91:
    From what In have read, Gregory could face a year in
    jail for brandishing that magazine.
    Never happen, but the thought of him in the joint lecturing
    felons on their poor behavior for owning guns has potential.


  45. buzzsawmonkey
    45 | December 25, 2012 3:15 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    We clearly need to ban water.

    Penn and Teller are on it.


  46. Da_Beerfreak
    46 | December 25, 2012 3:15 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Got to love it when the left wingers get bit in the ass by their own cleverness… :lol:


  47. 47 | December 25, 2012 3:16 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Many more people are killed in accidents with cars than are killed with guns, accidents, homicides, suicides (which don’t really count), or justified self-defense combined. Maybe we should ban cars. The gun controllers don’t care about the facts. They want Control. Ultimately, they want to be able to say who lives and who dies, what you shoudl eat and drink, and in general dictate every move you make. That which is not forbidden would be compulsory in their “Ideal” society. I don’t think that they are going to be able to get gun control through the House. The Senate may pass Feinstein’s “Assault” Weapons bill, though. We’ll see on that. The Donks don’t really want to go on the record about gun control. The last time they did it cost them both houses of congress.


  48. 48 | December 25, 2012 3:21 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Ah yes! Dihydrogen monoxide! 8)


  49. buzzsawmonkey
    49 | December 25, 2012 3:24 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Maybe we should ban cars.

    The Left would love that; leftists hate the freedom and personal mobility that automobiles represent. That’s one of the reasons they are so into emissions standards, “traffic calming” and other regulations which make car ownership difficult and expensive, jacking up the price of fuel, encouraging public transportation in the most impractical places at great expense, etc., etc.

    It must have killed Obama, deep down inside, to have had to brag about “saving” the auto industry when he would have much preferred to kill it outright. Now, of course, he will kill it with a thousand cuts—or at least permit it to die—since it has served the purpose of getting him re-elected.


  50. Da_Beerfreak
    50 | December 25, 2012 3:25 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Having “Slow Joe” head a Blue Ribbon Panel is a good indication that Obama is not all that serious about real gun control. What worries me is what Obama will do with EOs below the radar…


  51. RIX
    51 | December 25, 2012 3:26 pm

    Se ya later . Have a merry Christmas!


  52. huckfunn
    52 | December 25, 2012 3:33 pm

    I never heard of this Lupica twit so the importance of his yammerings are lost on me.


  53. lobo91
    53 | December 25, 2012 3:34 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I never heard of this Lupica twit so the importance of his yammerings are lost on me.

    Same here


  54. 54 | December 25, 2012 3:35 pm

    @ lobo91:
    And that is the problem with permitting. No permit, no govt record of any kind would be best, IMO.


  55. buzzsawmonkey
    55 | December 25, 2012 3:39 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I never heard of this Lupica twit so the importance of his yammerings are lost on me.

    Lupica is a twit who is read by a great many people, mostly in and in some cases out of the greater New York area. He is one of many twits who say similar moronic things. The fact that you, or I, may not have heard of one or more of these twits—or, having heard of them, do not follow their writings—is immaterial.

    If they are read by a number of people, then they have the ear of a number of people (many of them those “low information voters” who famously did not vote to get rid of Obama last time around), and what they say is, therefore, important—because it is part of what makes up the culture that works against conservative viewpoints being accepted in the society as a whole.


  56. huckfunn
    56 | December 25, 2012 3:41 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    The fact that you, or I, may not have heard of one or more of these twits—or, having heard of them, do not follow their writings—is immaterial.

    Yeah, but it makes me feel better to proclaim his unimportantence to me. So there… :wink:


  57. huckfunn
    57 | December 25, 2012 3:45 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    That’s one of the reasons they are so into emissions standards, “traffic calming” and other regulations which make car ownership difficult and expensive, jacking up the price of fuel, encouraging public transportation in the most impractical places at great expense, etc., etc.

    Cash for Clunckers took an entire generation of affordable cars out of the market for would-be low income buyers. Those peeps are now further than ever from car ownership. Which, of course, was part of the Obamunist plan. Drive them all toward government funded mass transportation.


  58. heysoos
    58 | December 25, 2012 3:51 pm

    epic failure of the car industry bail out…
    taxpayers hosed again for the benefit of unions
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/12/20/the_auto_bailout_failure_is_now_complete_116473.html


  59. heysoos
    59 | December 25, 2012 3:54 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    That’s one of the reasons they are so into emissions standards, “traffic calming” and other regulations which make car ownership difficult and expensive, jacking up the price of fuel, encouraging public transportation in the most impractical places at great expense, etc., etc.
    Cash for Clunckers took an entire generation of affordable cars out of the market for would-be low income buyers. Those peeps are now further than ever from car ownership. Which, of course, was part of the Obamunist plan. Drive them all toward government funded mass transportation.

    cattle cars have a proven efficiency…line starts over there—>


  60. brookly red
    60 | December 25, 2012 3:56 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    That’s one of the reasons they are so into emissions standards, “traffic calming” and other regulations which make car ownership difficult and expensive, jacking up the price of fuel, encouraging public transportation in the most impractical places at great expense, etc., etc.

    Cash for Clunckers took an entire generation of affordable cars out of the market for would-be low income buyers. Those peeps are now further than ever from car ownership. Which, of course, was part of the Obamunist plan. Drive them all toward government funded mass transportation.

    of course an enterprising individual with a few bucks could make a lot of money filling that void by reselling clunkers bought in say Mexico :)


  61. heysoos
    61 | December 25, 2012 3:58 pm

    studies have proven than GM vehicles are involved in drunken driver deaths more than any other brand…therefore BO supports death by drunken driver….working on my lib logic here


  62. huckfunn
    62 | December 25, 2012 3:58 pm

    I just fixed a busted light switch with my nifty new Christmas DeWalt screwdrivers. Rejoice!


  63. heysoos
    63 | December 25, 2012 4:00 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    good for you!…operating a screwdriver is a lost art


  64. brookly red
    64 | December 25, 2012 4:01 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    That’s one of the reasons they are so into emissions standards, “traffic calming” and other regulations which make car ownership difficult and expensive, jacking up the price of fuel, encouraging public transportation in the most impractical places at great expense, etc., etc.
    Cash for Clunckers took an entire generation of affordable cars out of the market for would-be low income buyers. Those peeps are now further than ever from car ownership. Which, of course, was part of the Obamunist plan. Drive them all toward government funded mass transportation.

    cattle cars have a proven efficiency…line starts over there—>

    Brooklyn to Times Sq. in 11 minutes for around 2 bucks (with an unlimited card) ain’t bad at all… of course outside of the big cities mass transit sucks.


  65. huckfunn
    65 | December 25, 2012 4:03 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    That’s one of the reasons they are so into emissions standards, “traffic calming” and other regulations which make car ownership difficult and expensive, jacking up the price of fuel, encouraging public transportation in the most impractical places at great expense, etc., etc.

    Cash for Clunckers took an entire generation of affordable cars out of the market for would-be low income buyers. Those peeps are now further than ever from car ownership. Which, of course, was part of the Obamunist plan. Drive them all toward government funded mass transportation.

    of course an enterprising individual with a few bucks could make a lot of money filling that void by reselling clunkers bought in say Mexico

    Next time you drive south on Interstate 35 toward Laredo, you will see caravans of entremanures in clunkers towing clunkers toward Mexico. A thriving market.


  66. brookly red
    66 | December 25, 2012 4:03 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I just fixed a busted light switch with my nifty new Christmas DeWalt screwdrivers. Rejoice!

    you did remember to turn off the power first, right Huck?…

    Huck?


  67. huckfunn
    67 | December 25, 2012 4:04 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    cattle cars have a proven efficiency…line starts over there—>

    I had the same thought. Welfare macht frei, etc…


  68. brookly red
    68 | December 25, 2012 4:05 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    entremanures

    it that was intentional it was brilliant


  69. heysoos
    69 | December 25, 2012 4:06 pm

    @ brookly red:
    I really enjoy using mass transit when I have the opportunity and NYC certainly provides that…I spent a week around the DC area a few years back with my family…we loved riding the metro, buses and such…it’s a cultural thing, and you touched it, that opposing subcultures have no claim what’s right for the others…a subway in DeMoines doesn’t work, conversely, without one NYC doesn’t work…public transportation is hardly one size fits all…thanks for pointing that out


  70. huckfunn
    70 | December 25, 2012 4:07 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    you did remember to turn off the power first, right Huck?…

    Huck?

    Nope! I love living dangerously. It makes the chore more rewarding, particularly if I don’t fry myself. Not only that, it’s windy as hell outside and I didn’t want to go outside to find the breaker. And that’s a chore in itself. Click each one until someone inside yells “YO”.


  71. brookly red
    71 | December 25, 2012 4:08 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I had the same thought. Welfare macht frei, etc…

    /don’t forget about our secret underground processing centers where an entire train load of tourists can just disappear into a hole in the ground to have their organs harvested. Muhahahah


  72. 72 | December 25, 2012 4:10 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Uh, label the breakers, dude.


  73. huckfunn
    73 | December 25, 2012 4:12 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Uh, label the breakers, dude.

    Killjoy! :twisted:


  74. buzzsawmonkey
    74 | December 25, 2012 4:13 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I really enjoy using mass transit when I have the opportunity and NYC certainly provides that…I spent a week around the DC area a few years back with my family…we loved riding the metro, buses and such…it’s a cultural thing, and you touched it, that opposing subcultures have no claim what’s right for the others…a subway in DeMoines doesn’t work, conversely, without one NYC doesn’t work…public transportation is hardly one size fits all…thanks for pointing that out

    You can tell that the so-called “greens” who babble about public transportation are complete hypocrites by observing how seldom they advocate for the revival of trolley buses (never, in case you are wondering). Instead, they advocate for hybrid vehicles or light rail.

    Hybrids are ridiculously expensive, because they require two propulsion systems. Light rail is ridiculously expensive because it requires tracks, which take forever to lay, which are subject to stoppages due to debris, and which are…limited to the track.

    Chicago, when I was a kid, had a comprehensive trolley-bus system; the buses were virtually all electric, and ran off a grid of overhead electric wires. Trackless, on rubber tires. No secondary propulsion system; they were entirely electric.

    The overhead electric grid was proven safe, allowed for centralized powering of the buses (thereby achieving economies of scale). Rebuilding such networks (Chicago scrapped its electric system under Carter, just in time for the gas shortage) would be a genuine job provider that would build infrastructure.

    Not a single “green” advocate has ever, to my knowledge, suggested such a system.


  75. brookly red
    75 | December 25, 2012 4:16 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Not a single “green” advocate has ever, to my knowledge, suggested such a system.

    well some do but they are quickly thrown under the bus. :)


  76. buzzsawmonkey
    76 | December 25, 2012 4:17 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    well some do but they are quickly thrown under the bus.

    Heh.

    If there ever has been such an advocate from the “green” side, I’ve never heard them.


  77. brookly red
    77 | December 25, 2012 4:22 pm

    they have been talking about a 42nd street trolley for like 30 yrs now…


  78. heysoos
    78 | December 25, 2012 4:23 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    ahhh, fond memories of the Loop…if one has not ridden the L around, especially at night, you’ve missed a great opportunity to witness public transportation at it’s zenith…here in NM we have the RailRunner light rail between Las Lunas, south of ABQ through town and up to Santa Fe, 40 miles north…it is a real fun way to get around (if north and south is where you wanna go) but a miserable failure financially…it’s very expensive to build tracks and stations in the medium of an interstate highway, but we did it, and you are paying for it…thanks or that


  79. heysoos
    79 | December 25, 2012 4:27 pm

    up in Denver, they built a overhead power trolly system from scratch, primarily around the shopping district at Larimer Square…back in the early 90′s I think…but it is very popular and highly effective, cool to see putting around and gives the citizens a sense of logic…ding ding!


  80. huckfunn
    80 | December 25, 2012 4:29 pm

    @ heysoos:
    My niece drives one of those articulated electric double buses in downtown San Francisco.


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    81 | December 25, 2012 4:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    they have been talking about a 42nd street trolley for like 30 yrs now…

    Again, that’s a tracklaying thing. An electric overhead power grid for trackless trolley buses could probably be rigged in a matter of weeks. They’re not serious.


  82. heysoos
    82 | December 25, 2012 4:31 pm

    leave the people alone and we’ll figure it out…my trip to DC involved a motor home which we parked in some huge complex out in Alexandria…the park had a bus system which took you to a train depot…from there you could make one underground change, and pop up on the Mall a few minutes later…very tourist friendly


  83. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | December 25, 2012 4:32 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Again: trolley buses have no tracks, and no stations—merely an overhead electrical wire grid. Easy to put up, easy to maintain, easy to expand. Most of Chicago was covered with these grids up through the late ’70s. They could easily rebuild the grids—but no; they’d rather spend money on hybrids. It’s bullshit.


  84. huckfunn
    84 | December 25, 2012 4:33 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    They’re not serious.

    Doomberg is no doubt busy with more urgent issues such as big gulps and salty things.


  85. heysoos
    85 | December 25, 2012 4:33 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    My niece drives one of those articulated electric double buses in downtown San Francisco.

    cool job…it’s not about getting rich, it’s about enjoying yourself…I’d take that job in a NY second


  86. buzzsawmonkey
    86 | December 25, 2012 4:37 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Doomberg is no doubt busy with more urgent issues such as big gulps and salty things.

    He’s busy destroying the traffic patterns everywhere in the name of “traffic calming.”

    Now that he’s made Broadway impassable in several spots—how sad is that?—with stupid “pedestrian plazas,” and stuck barely-used bike lanes everywhere, he’s talking about putting in special traffic lights for the cyclists to ignore the way they ignore the existing traffic lights. Not only hasn’t he cracked down on cyclist scofflaws, he’s letting unlicensed mini-scooters act like bicycles now and ignore the traffic laws.

    He’s an idiot.


  87. huckfunn
    87 | December 25, 2012 4:38 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    cool job…it’s not about getting rich, it’s about enjoying yourself…I’d take that job in a NY second

    She’s an interesting gal. She’s Korean, adopted by sis and bro-in-law. She was always a bit on the slow side, emotionally and developmentally. She bought a house in SanFran. The house has a small apartment that she rents out. She’s done quite well and being a union member bus driver in SanFran pays about $80k per year.


  88. huckfunn
    88 | December 25, 2012 4:43 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    He’s an idiot.

    The electorate (save the good Blogmocats who reside there) are idiots for continually reelecting the jerk.


  89. heysoos
    89 | December 25, 2012 4:44 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    NYC is an interesting place…I’m not sure that if you don’t visit or pay attention if you do, it will make any sense…it’s mammoth, beyond most people in a way


  90. brookly red
    90 | December 25, 2012 4:46 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    Doomberg is no doubt busy with more urgent issues such as big gulps and salty things.

    He’s busy destroying the traffic patterns everywhere in the name of “traffic calming.”

    Now that he’s made Broadway impassable in several spots—how sad is that?—with stupid “pedestrian plazas,” and stuck barely-used bike lanes everywhere, he’s talking about putting in special traffic lights for the cyclists to ignore the way they ignore the existing traffic lights. Not only hasn’t he cracked down on cyclist scofflaws, he’s letting unlicensed mini-scooters act like bicycles now and ignore the traffic laws.

    He’s an idiot.

    well the smart pedestrians don’t want to sip their lattes in the middle of freakin Broadway…


  91. brookly red
    91 | December 25, 2012 4:49 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    He’s an idiot.

    The electorate (save the good Blogmocats who reside there) are idiots for continually reelecting the jerk.

    well we voted for term limits, but laws are for little people…


  92. buzzsawmonkey
    92 | December 25, 2012 4:50 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    The electorate (save the good Blogmocats who reside there) are idiots for continually reelecting the jerk.

    Bloomberg bribed the City Council to illegally abrogate the term limits so he could run again, and then spent $100 million to get re-elected. This money went to the newspapers, to bully them into supporting him; to the broadcast media; to the various machine politicians who helped to make sure that the votes added up right—and he still barely squeaked in by 50,000 votes.

    It used to be that people thought “Oh, let’s elect the rich guy because he won’t be corrupted by ordinary politics.” Bloomberg is living proof that with enough money, the rich guy can corrupt the system to feed his own massive ego. We saw something of the same sort happen with Obama’s re-election, where a corrupt media in the bag for Obama made sure that the illegal donations which Obama received were not an issue, and there was no scrutiny of registration and tallying fraud in the two or three swing states where skillfully-spread corruption could effectively steal the election nationwide.


  93. 93 | December 25, 2012 4:50 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Karachi, Pakistan is an “interesting” place, too, but damned if I’ll ever go there again.


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    94 | December 25, 2012 4:51 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    NYC is an interesting place…I’m not sure that if you don’t visit or pay attention if you do, it will make any sense…it’s mammoth, beyond most people in a way

    New York, at this point, is a theme park imitation of a real city.


  95. heysoos
    95 | December 25, 2012 4:51 pm

    I’m starting to wonder if the division between urban and rural America is having even more political effect…the extreme differences regarding what’s good for every American is exacerbated by those very geopolitical rifts…what a mess…people need to travel more


  96. heysoos
    96 | December 25, 2012 4:57 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    NYC is an interesting place…I’m not sure that if you don’t visit or pay attention if you do, it will make any sense…it’s mammoth, beyond most people in a way
    New York, at this point, is a theme park imitation of a real city.

    I suppose I post in terms of NYC the Myth…I have not lived there so I don’t know of the pulse as time goes by…I’m a perpetual tourist, so let’s go look at the gangsters!…I like clams too


  97. huckfunn
    97 | December 25, 2012 5:01 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    well we voted for term limits, but laws are for little people…

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I was about to axe how he got around the terms limits. Thanks to Buzz for the explanation.


  98. 98 | December 25, 2012 5:04 pm

    In the spirit of ignoring the BS for just one day, here’s a reprint of a Mark Steyn piece about “White Christmas” and Irving Berlin. Berlin was quite a remarkable fellow; a Jewish Russian immigrant, he was the quintessential American.

    Merry Christmas, peeps!


  99. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | December 25, 2012 5:10 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    In the spirit of ignoring the BS for just one day, here’s a reprint of a Mark Steyn piece about “White Christmas” and Irving Berlin. Berlin was quite a remarkable fellow; a Jewish Russian immigrant, he was the quintessential American.

    Merry Christmas, peeps!

    Otto Preminger, as the Camp Commandant in the movie “Stalag 17,” refers to the song; “Good morgen, Sergeants. Nasty weather we are having…and I so hoped we could give you a white Christmas, just like the ones you used to know. Isn’t that what was said by that funny little man who stole his name from our capital…that what-do-you-call him “Berlin”? Now, as a treat, I will have you all de-loused for the holidays…”

    “Stalag 17,” with William Holden and Peter Graves, is one of the great unsung Christmas movies.


  100. lobo91
    100 | December 25, 2012 5:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I still like the original Die Hard, but to each his own :)


  101. 101 | December 25, 2012 5:16 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Yippi-ki-yay motherfuckers!


  102. lobo91
    102 | December 25, 2012 5:17 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Yippi-ki-yay motherfuckers!

    Probably won’t see that on a card from Hallmark…


  103. buzzsawmonkey
    104 | December 25, 2012 5:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I still like the original Die Hard, but to each his own

    “Die Hard” has its moments, certainly, but there’s a lot more going on—in my humble opinion—in “Stalag 17,” even if the body count is lower and the thrills not quite so easy.


  104. 105 | December 25, 2012 5:39 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Many more people are killed in accidents with cars than are killed with guns, accidents, homicides, suicides (which don’t really count), or justified self-defense combined. Maybe we should ban cars. The gun controllers don’t care about the facts. They want Control. Ultimately, they want to be able to say who lives and who dies, what you shoudl eat and drink, and in general dictate every move you make. That which is not forbidden would be compulsory in their “Ideal” society. I don’t think that they are going to be able to get gun control through the House. The Senate may pass Feinstein’s “Assault” Weapons bill, though. We’ll see on that. The Donks don’t really want to go on the record about gun control. The last time they did it cost them both houses of congress.

    Funny you should mention that.


  105. lobo91
    106 | December 25, 2012 6:55 pm

    Right on cue Juan Williams picks Wayne Lapierre for his “naughty” list, saying that his press conference the other day was “apalling.”

    Idiot.


  106. brookly red
    107 | December 25, 2012 7:20 pm

    after the initial hack job by the media Lapierre may have the last laugh … safe schools for me but not ye?

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service


  107. lobo91
    108 | December 25, 2012 7:32 pm

    @ brookly red:

    after the initial hack job by the media Lapierre may have the last laugh … safe schools for me but not ye?

    Wow…liberal hypocrites.

    I’ve never heard of such a thing…
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