…well for the regular season at any rate. Hard to believe we wait 30 weeks and 17 go by so quickly (I don’t count exhibition, but I did count the playoffs/SuperBowl – who’s with me on the math? Exhibition’s entertaining and all, but….).
While the AFC playoff picture is complete – there’s still the matter of seeding. Denver and Houston both have a 12-3 record and wins today by both clinch the bye week. All playoff spots have been established. It’s like Spring – it’s all over there but the seeding….
In the NFC, Atlanta has clinched both the bye and home field advantage. The coach may want to give some serious thought to letting those second and third string players get some real playing time – you never know when you might need them in the playoffs and you don’t need them stepping out on the field in the Divisional with “oh sh_t!” looks on their faces (you know the look – Jim Harbaugh had it most of last season).
The Packers have clinched NFC North. A win today also secures them the first-round bye so they have something to play for. San Francisco needs a win to clinch the NFC West, but if they lose and Seattle wins, it’s wild-card city for these guys.
Which brings us to the NFC East. This is the only division who has no team with a payoff spot secured. The division winner won’t be decided until Sunday night. If either the Vikings or Bears win, the Giants only get into the playoffs with a win and a Dallas loss. If the Redskins lose, they also need the Vikings and Bears both to lose to secure the second wild-card spot.
And here we go with the final matchups of the year — all being played on Sunday! And all are division matchups. If there was ever a weekend to break out the good beer and get the high-end chicken fingers, this is it.
Buccaneers @ Falcons
Jets @ Bills
Ravens @ Bengals
Bears @ Lions
Texans @ Colts
Panthers @ Saints
Eagles @ Giants
Browns @ Steelers
Jaguars @ Titans
Chiefs @ Broncos
Packers @ Vikings
Dolphins @ Patriots
Raiders @ Chargers
Rams @ Seahawks
Cowboys @ Redskins
It’s been a great year, and on behalf of the Flyboy and the Football Savant Offspring, we wish you all a Happy Happy Happy New Year! (Channeling my inner Duck Dynasty on that one). The good news is, of course, that the end of my weekly column signals the resumption of the Sunday night radio show, I believe.
Placeholder comment…
Finally.
/galt
It is still looking like a 49er vs Bronco Superbowl.
Well it will be nice to be looking forward to next season. Nice for the Saints to get this season over with.
/plus Sean Payton will be signed again with the Saints.
It would be nice if the Saints win today and finish a .500 but according to my son if they lose they get some better picks in the off season.
And the Saints score twice in just minutes…excellent.
@ Lily:
I’m NOT turning on the TV.
I’m gonna just cry instead.
SWhat has happened to my Texans?
@ Lily:
Holla!
@ Calo:
They aren’t playing good again this Sunday? Haven’t checked the scores… They have a chance to redeem themselves in the play-offs..they are still going to be in the play-offs. I’m not sure what is going on with them. They have thrown away home field advantage.
/The only game I remember really this whole month by the Saints is when they played the Cowboys last week-end.
Hope you are doing well {{{{Calo}}}}! I look like Jack the Ripper got a hold of me. LOL!
@ brookly red:
Hey brookly!!
theoutsider wrote:
Not sure on that …the Seahawks look like they are going to be a team to watch in my opinion.
@ Calo:
Ouch just saw the score. It isn’t that bad but I’m not sure what the heck is going on with them….they should have sewn up the last few games. Hopefully they will catch their snap in the play-offs.
@ Lily:
The 49ers are going to win the division, but the Seahawks are dangerous. It’s not a sure thing to win it all. I’m just betting on SF.
Carlina Girl, Mucho thanks for putting the kaboshon the 49 ers for me. I owe you.
the Giants only get into the playoffs with a win and a Dallas loss.
the Giants seem to be holding up their end… 35-7 at the half. (ouch)now if the Cowboys choke, all is good.
Saints just hit a long field goal!
/sad that I am hoping for a .500 finish with my team. After all the problems in the off season that is the best I can hope for. Oh well I can live with that.
theoutsider wrote:
Oh you aren’t off with your predictions …just saying the Seahawks are deadly out there. This season nothing is a sure thing. Watched the Seahawks play for the first time last week-end…I liked what I saw. They are going to be a problem for many teams.
I see Detroits problem the offensive line was purposely letting people through to tackle the QB. Truly offensive.
brookly red wrote:
The Giants have been off and on this season it has to be frustrating to be a Giants fan this year. Looks like they are holding up their end and there is a good chance the Cowboys might choke. Also a hard season for Cowboy fans too. They should have wrapped up their play-off spot by now.
Lily wrote:
well the Giants are playing Philly (and they truly stink this yr) but all in all for me Giants are the home team, but I am a Green Bay fan
darkwords wrote:
Okay Detroits own offensive line is letting guys through to tackle their own QB???
Well, the REAL game is officially on as of today…
Obama makes passing gun control measures a priority for 2013
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/30/obama-makes-passing-gun-control-measures-top-2013-priority/#ixzz2GZ8mQlni
This is going to get more than interesting, I think/fear.
Awesome catch by Lance Moore …AWESOME!
/hey I gotta brag a little bit it’s the last Saints game. I must say though there wasn’t constant Saints bashing this year like I thought there would be.
Mike C. wrote:
meh, it’s going no where
@ brookly red:
Green Bay fan? I can understand. No matter where I lived I’d probably be a Saints fan…through thick and thin. I’ve been through some rough years being a Saints fan. Really rough years. LOL!
@ brookly red:
I sincerely hope you are correct. But I suspect it’s going to go down ugly, and if that’s the case, you can forget any relief from the current wave of what can only be described as panic buying. For right now, at least, if you ain’t got it, fuggedaboutit.
@ Mike C.:
Saw that. He is going to have a tough time shoving the genie back in the bottle and trying to change our Constitution. He isn’t even hiding what he is anymore…which makes it easier to call him a commie in my opinion.
Mike C. wrote:
ok, they get some “feel good” legislation, maybe ban 30 round magazines or something but it’s all a show.
brookly red wrote:
Probably. Changing the laws on the magazines. Like people actually pay attention to those laws especially criminals.
@ Lily: Lomas Brown
I can see the Lions are teasing Macker again today. Seems cruel.
@ brookly red:
Magazine bans (if enacted) will be anything over 10 rounds.
I dunno -- I just have a bad feeling about this whole thing. And judging by sales volume, I’m obviously not the only one. Hope I’m wrong.
@ Mike C.:
This is worth spreading far and wide. Send it to your facebook friends. Don’t give an inch to the hysteria. Or it will snowball.
@ darkwords:
Good grief???????? Really??? What in the hell? Now that is a first for me to see. Yeah I agree I can see why Macker gets frustrated …geez.
Lily wrote:
You see there is nothing to give away here, support can’t be bought with a handout, what are they gonna do offer double rations of food stamps if you go along with gun control?
Mike C. wrote:
I understand that bad feeling. I have had a bad feeling ever since obama was elected president and then that bad feeling got worse when he got re-elected. I don’t trust him and I don’t think anyone should.
@ 30 Mike C.: We have to start putting backbone into the kids. With all the absentee fathers around Big Mother gets to raise them in the public school system. Too many men are pussies in this country.
The average teenage girl without a father these days looks for a BAby Daddy not a father for her kids. The welfare society is ok with that. Men need to be shamed and have their characters questions. Then rebuilt like in a boot camp.
@ 32 Lily: Macker isn’t up on the latest football technology. If he sent Carolina girl a weekly check like I do then the Lions would win more often. It’s a quiet negative auction. Just on the hush hush. She’ll deny it if you ask her. wink!!! wink!!!
darkwords wrote:
not just men women too… just one generation ago the term “single mother” did not exist.
brookly red wrote:
You have a point. But I think he is going after other factions of people who support obama. Just gun control period is what they want. Just like they want rainbows and butterflies too. Different group of obama voters …..the peaceniks. The aging hippies. That’s where he’ll get support.
@ Mike C.:
I said he’d make gun control a priority after re-election back when he was running. I don’t think he can get anything through the House, though. I don’t think. If the Republicans sell us out on that I can’t think of any particular reason to stay with the Republican Party. There will be a split and a third party form. The mjority of Americans don’t want new gun control laws, as they are demoonstrating with their purchases. There is a very vocal minority that do want gun control laws, but I don’t think the Republicans will go there.
@ Iron Fist:
I don’t think they will go there either. If they do I agree with you there will be a split. It is going to be very ugly.
This Bears/ Lions game is ugly!
How they put out fires in New Zealand. Union members watch while drinking beer.
Oh my! The man has no shame at all!
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/30/obama-im-not-driven-by-some-ideological-agenda/
@ 43 Lily: Both of those jerks are afraid to work over even radical muslims for fear of getting a fatwa placed on their heads.
RIX wrote:
The Giants and Eagles game is pretty ugly too. Just saw the score. Ouch!
IIRC, Venezuela has strict gun control. Remember this the next time Hugo Chavez lectures us on how barbaric the US is:
Unreal. Remember that the next time anybody claims anywhere in the US is “Murder Capitol of the World”.
@ Iron Fist:
YOu should note that those are more raw number killings than in America, with only a fraction of the population. 66 per 100000 is enormous. America is something like 4.1 per 100000. Even Chicago isn’t 66 per 100000.
Iron Fist wrote:
but only cause they are poor shots…
@ Iron Fist:
Brazil is another one. Meanwhile Colombia is a heavily armed population and has less crime. Coincidence? Nah!
@ Iron Fist:
Yup, One reason I stick with the GOP is their support of Gun Rights. I don’t like their foreign policy and do not trust them on fiscal issues. If they sell out over guns, I’m done.
@ Lily:
Tell me about it!
@ Lily:
Bears win, do if Minnesotta beats the Pack the Bears are in
the playoffs.
In a Chicago Tribune poll a majority of Bears fans wanted them
to lose so that Lovie Smith would get sacked.
RIX wrote:
It was indeed. I wonder what kind of a draft pick the Loi-ins will get!
@ Macker:
The Lions should pick up a blue chipper in the draft.
I like Matthew Stafford, but he has to take are of the ball.
RIX wrote:
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really
@ darkwords:
Done
Objective journalism!/
RIX wrote:
Whatever. Meanwhile, WTF does that tweet mean? Unless it means O doesn’t give a shit about public opinion, it’s factually wrong. Se health care.
RIX wrote:
POTUS channels Stalin when talking importance of public opinion… same shit
@ Mike C.:
I love how Gregory sees Obama as Lincolnesque.
He might have a slap fight with Chris Matthews over him.
Mike C. wrote:
it means too many people have nothing better to do than read tweets…
Just sloppiness? Must be like typos./
RIX wrote:
I love how the left compares themselves with great people thinking if they lie enough times I will believe it
RIX wrote:
no I am a NY democrat I speak the language… sloppiness means “shit, we got caught” Just means, “some one other than me”. Just and sloppiness when used together means “someone other than me got caught”.
surfing the news, looks like it’s over the cliff we go…our slapstick congress nit wits and ultra narcissistic boy president locked together in their hatefest, spitting at each other…at some point, something is gonna blow…it’s an artificial, govt made mess and now these same stupid fuckers can’t begin to fix it….pathetic…I hate the feds more everyday, all of them
brookly red wrote:
@ BBEV:
I look back in my life and I see the last great Democrat President was JFK. If he was alive today he would be called a Republican,
heysoos wrote:
cliff = automatic spending cuts… I fail to see the issue.
@ heysoos:
Obama wants to go over the Cliff, and the Democrats are with him. He’s already told the Republicans that even if they sell out completely it isn’t good enough. Where the Republicans bear responsibility was in not having the balls not to raise the Debt Ceiling without substantive real cuts in the Federal budget. It shouldn’t be too hard to cut back to 2006 levels of spending, but the Democrats refuse to even consider that. They want to raise taxes and spend every new dollar they get buying votes for the next election. Why should the Republicans cooperate with that? The other place the Republicans are falling ddown is getting the message out. Obama wants to raise taxes significantly on successful small businesses. In a de facto Recession. That’ll improve the unemployment picture. Republicans should be running TV ads sayin gthat Obama wants to pyut people out of work in his class warfare. That happens to be the truth, that rare flower that neither side really respects.
brookly red wrote:
the issue is the mind numbing dysfunction of our leaders
brookly red wrote:
Well, if Обама and the Demo☭rats on Capitol Hill can’t even see the stupidity of the Tax-The-Rich meme that the French Supreme Court nullified, then we definitely DO have a problem. It begins and ends with them.
NO budget for four years! WTF is wrong with this picture!
@ brookly red:
If I am not mistaken, the only real cuts are in defense, and there will be significant tax hikes across the board. Again, not what you do if you want the economy to recover during a recession. But Obama doesn’t want the economy to recover. If he did he would be behaving differently.
@ brookly red:
It’s that Gregory puts Obama in the same class as Lincoln that
blows me away.
heysoos wrote:
they are functioning just fine, they and their friends are getting super rich, and we are being sold down the rat hole to 3rd world slavery, exactly as planned… it is the numb mind that fails to see this
brookly red wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
look, I have said from day one his agenda is to destroy our economy and thus our means of resistance… this is not politics as usual.
@ RIX:
That should not have submitted, I was agreeing.
@ brookly red:
It isn’t just that they are getting rich off of this. They are going to come out of this with even more power than they had. Power is more important to the Harry Reids and Barack Obamas ofd the world than mere money. Money is useful for all the trappings of power, but as long as they have power they can tap into the wealth of the state to pay fo rthe trappings.
RIX wrote:
sooner or later they will put him in the same class as Jesus, these people are evil.
So far they are getting away with it.
brookly red wrote:
Oh, I agree. Obama has already made it clear that there is no realistic compromise that he considers acceptible. Boehner made him a credible offer, and asked what he got for that. Obama said “Nothing. I get that for free” Obama isn’t negiotiating in good faith. He’s already made it clear that he doesn’t want a deal. He probably wouldn’t veto something in Reid and McConnell cobbled together something, but Reid doesn’t look like he’s interested in that either. He is wholly a creature of Obama’s.
Some already have, like Jamie Foxx.
Iron Fist wrote:
yeah and? for 2,000 years we have been told this was coming… why the surprise?
@ brookly red:
IIRC, Jamie Foxx has already done that. Obama is his Lord and Savior. Seriously.
What am I missing?
First Dingy Harry says “My friend (McConnell) is operating in good faith”
And in the next sentence says “We are unable to produce a counteroffer right now”
Did Reid just take the blame?
@ Iron Fist:
This is Obama being “transformative”
He is busily destroying the Middle Class.
@ brookly red:
None of us really expect to be on the scene when the antio-=Christ makes his appearance. Obama is working his way up to being a reasonable fascimily thereof, what with his attacks on the Church and all. He is by faqr the most anti-=Christian President America has ever had There were Roman Emperors who were worse, though. So far.
Nevada loves this shit
Iron Fist wrote:
Lord yes, savior? hahahah
Iron Fist wrote:
they told you, you will not know the hour or the day
eaglesoars wrote:
I’m sure that wasn’t his intent, but the Democrats will be responsible if we go over the Cliff. That won’t be how the news media reports it, though, so it won’t be what the average American believesa. Control of the message is an extremely powerful weapon. Just ask Josef Goebbles.
Iron Fist wrote:
but yet you still own a TV… fascinating
Iron Fist wrote:
I just realized -- if there’s nothing out of the Senate Obama will insist on an up-or-down vote on his original proposal -- tax hikes over $250k earners, no cuts.
That’s the set up being constructed -- the up-down on Obama’s proposal.
That’s why there’s no counter-offer and why there was never any chance there would be.
brookly red wrote:
giving up your TV bends the message more favorably?…how does that work?
eaglesoars wrote:
is it becoming clear now? there never was any cliff/crises just a scare tactic
heysoos wrote:
the way not drinking makes you sober…
don’t play the game and bitch about the rules. just don’t play.
Iron Fist wrote:
Well said and agree 100% with what you wrote.
A fine point raised on another blog: the talk of gun control is mostly just noise. It riles their base up and brings in plenty of cash. Whether or not they get any legislation out of it is secondary.
oh, and re-howdies, all… haven’t been around here in a while…
:wq!
brookly red wrote:
what the hell does watching TV have to do with the MSM message?…it’s not the TV it’s the info one collects off the news…you hurt their rating by not logging on to them…it’s not the pile if plastic and wires
heysoos wrote:
seriously, we spend a lot of time debating what some ass wipe on TV said… why? because we listened to them in the first place, that is controlling the conversation… where is TFK when I need hin?
RIX wrote:
It often works.
brookly red wrote:
I didn’t watch anybody and still enjoy my TV…it’s like blaming the gun for the shooters behavior
brookly red wrote:
Back in the day they did pretty good without a TV. I personally don’t see the problem having a TV. Moderation, moderation, moderation. Also turn the channel on the crap.
heysoos wrote:
uhhh think about that and ask me again.
brookly red wrote:
you are bordering the ridiculous…it’s not the TV, it’s the ratings
brookly red wrote:
The only time that happens is usually something that is put on the net from the TV. I rarely see the actual incident on TV. But then again I watch TV rationally. I also read books too. So you could also say some books that are put out are out of touch. Everything falls under your umbrella to be honest. One needs to use discretion in the consumption one takes in concerning entertainment or news.
heysoos wrote:
oh yeah and I can quit any time I want… look, you choose to play their game and you play by their rules, plain and simple, personally I don’t allow them into my home… if you choose to it’s on you.
Guggi wrote:
They made Obama coming back from vacation heroic like
Washington crossing the Delaware.
Later Gators.
brookly red wrote:
so watching a Gunsmoke rerun contributes to the deceit of the MSM?…doesn’t work that way
@ 108 brookly red: I’m confused. Aren’t you the east coast Heysoos? And he is the frio alto plano Brooklyn Red?
heysoos wrote:
dig this… to me you only exist because I choose to log on to this site. Now I happen to like you so that is OK, to me Chris Mathews only exists because someone one this site mentions him… you partake in the MSM, you condone the MSM.
darkwords wrote:
yes, but we like you anyway
@ heysoos: The MSM were too slimy to be heros in Gunsmoke.
Festus, Miss Kitty, Marshall Dillon, Doc, and Newly.. none of them a reporter.
@ brookly red:
One thing I do agree with you on … is if you only get your information through TV ..Yeah you aren’t doing yourself any favors and your ignorance level raises a lot. But watching TV with that in mind …. TV has certainly made many people stupid. Seen that in real life.
Insert Clever Name Here wrote:
Hello!
darkwords wrote:
miss kitty was for all piratical purposes a reporter… well maybe an editor.:)
brookly red wrote:
I don’t even look to TV for my local news, let alone drink the MSM kool aid…you are simply relating the very same message as I have for years, but that has nothing to do with using a TV for entertainment….you’ve been preaching to the choir
darkwords wrote:
I must say hardly. Brookly and heysoos are very different.
Lily wrote:
no I would say KEPT them stupid
Lily wrote:
I’m a tough guy from New Mexico….red is a wimp from NYC
jus kidding…me and red go back some years, and neither ever held any grudge
heysoos wrote:
we hang out and watch gladiator movies
@ Lily: yah it is probably gauche to make those comparisons. Too much wine today. I’ll have to notch that on my memory belt.
@ heysoos:
and I’m a big fan of NYC and red lives there and has a keen insight on stuff that interests me
brookly red wrote:
True. But it would also imply there was some level of intelligence going on in the first place. Too many people take what is on TV for real ….and don’t even question what they are consuming.
@ brookly red:
Obama is already a God-King.
Lily wrote:
e.g. Jon Stewart, the patron saint of low information voters
Hi Lily, how are you doing?
Rodan wrote:
And Satan rules on earth… I don’t mind cause they don’t matter.
@ brookly red:
Jesus said his Kingdom is not of this Earth.
@ eaglesoars:
The Right needs to figure out a way to destroy him. He’s very dangerous.
@ eaglesoars:
Recovering eagle! Getting there…I have long haul in front of me right now.
/have to warn my hubby at times…I get really cranky. LOL! I thought that was gone..but today I’ve got the crankies. Not as bad as before but still there. Frustrating.
Lily wrote:
I have the crankies today too…….but I don’t have an excuse!
@ eaglesoars:
Oh and correct about Jon Stewart.
@ eaglesoars:
LOL!
Rodan wrote:
Remember when he tried to replicate the Glenn Beck concert? And he introduced a muscian as simply ‘Yusef’? Didn’t bother to say ‘Yusef ISLAM so people too young to remember wouldn’t know it was the former Cat Stevens who supported the death fatwa on Salman Rushdie
Complete dishonesty -- not to mention the fact that he’d even be part of the line-up
Rodan wrote:
I already told you how to destroy him, if you turn off the TV he ceases to exist…
Jesus just left Chicago,
and he’s bound for New Orleans
@ brookly red:
Actually the people who actually watch him would have to turn off the TV to destroy him and I’m gonna tell ya right now that ain’t happening. It just isn’t. Anyone on this blog isn’t going to be hurt by watching TV…it isn’t us that is mis-informed or us who keep the fools on TV like on MSNBC, CNN or the alphabet channel news…it ain’t us. The people who really need to turn that crap off and educate themselves aren’t going to do it. You can say turn off the TV all you want but who needs to turn it off isn’t on this site. It is a huge part of the population and like I said it is all forms of news. Not just the TV. Everything has been infected. By turning it off or ignoring isn’t going to fix it no matter how many of us turn off our TV. It isn’t us who believe the crap spewed out of the TV, Internet, books, or whatever type of media they are plugged in to. Wrong audience here.
brookly red wrote:
I don’t watch him and it isn’t me nor people like me who keep him on TV. Wrong age group here. You are preaching to the wrong people.
Lily wrote:
wrong, you pay the cable company & they keep delivering… you say no thank you I don’t want this bull shit and you stop feeding the beast. Every month you pay the cable bill you enable them.
brookly red wrote:
it has nothing to do with cable…it has everything to do with Neilsen ratings…you should know this
@ brookly red:
I also pay for my internet. Look it isn’t us who needs to be re-programmed. If everyone on this site cut our cable bills it wouldn’t make a dent into the problem. I don’t buy into the propaganda. Your target crowd isn’t us. I don’t believe everything on TV, nor have you addressed other media outlets…all of them are infected. Every. Single. One. Not just TV. Address the whole issue not just one part of it.
Minny ain’t giving in to the Packers…tie game
heysoos wrote:
same difference, you are part of the problem or you are part of the solution, one or the other. Don’t like organized crime? don’t do cocaine…
If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth.
— 1 John 1:8
@ heysoos:
It doesn’t have anything to do with ratings either. It is only one cog of an infected machine ….which includes the internet, books or whatever form of information you are plugged in to.
brookly red wrote:
quoting the Bible proves nothing…watching TV is not the problem…you are confused, watching TV does not mean you accept the MSM deceit
@ brookly red:
Who said anything about having no sin?? Because I like to watch a movie on a DVD on my TV? Never said I’m without sin. Plus you need to address everything that is infected…it ain’t just TV either. Radio, internet, books, newspapers the whole nine yards. The problem is wading through it all to find the truth. So you need to turn everything off if you really want to kill the problem.
Lily wrote:
ratings are the measure of success in TVland
@ heysoos:
What brookly is talking about has nothing to do with ratings.
/and ratings aren’t what they use to be.
Lily wrote:
I realize that, that’s my point…it’s not that you watch TV it’s what you watch and trust…a TV is just a machine, depends on how it’s used
@ brookly red:
I don’t watch him, but too many people do. Not everyone will stop watching him. He has to be discredited to the general public.
@ heysoos:
Then why mention ratings? It doesn’t matter the ratings if so MSNBC would have long been sent to the grave-yard of shows a long time ago.
What brookly is saying is ALL of TV is no good…shut it completely down. Problem is the people who need to shut it down are in the large group of people who will never shut it down and continue to watch the shows like Jon Stewart.
The Packer Viking game is a goodun
Rodan wrote:
too many people steal, too many people lie, too many people do lots of things… I choose to make a stand. I don’t watch him nor his ilk. I don’t kneel at their alter. The affairs of others do not concern me.
re: television and the poisonous MSM
I have a -er, know a guy who has a couple of teenagers. And they spend more time on phones and computers. Now, that leaves a couple of problems still… misleading headlines on Yahoo, tv on Hulu is still just tv…
But it does lessen some of the MSM impact. So, (as has been said in conservative circles lately) we can make a difference in the culture at large and should start immediately.
For example, meeting Low Information Voters on the web and trying to pass ideas and stories on Facebook or other sites.
:wq!
@ brookly red:
So I’m sinning if I watch a movie? Trust me I don’t watch porn.
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
I counter that if TV is poisonious so are the other outlets! And yes younger adults even past their teens and into their 20′s are watching Hulu and on the computer a lot and still they are getting wrong information. So I contend it isn’t just TV that is spewing propaganda it is all outlets that are infected. Not just one.
Insert Clever Name Here wrote:
Facebook is a lower level of scum that the MSM. I am sure you heard of the account they closed for quoting Gandhi in a manner they disproved of. It is like a pagan temple that will cast you out if you don’t conform… Facebook, just an other idol to be worshiped.
brookly red wrote:
Ah-ha…more than just TV that is infected.
@ Lily:
I absolutely agree that it isn’t just TV. I was trying to emphasize that WE, THE PEOPLE WHO STILL LOVE LIBERTY need to get out there and meet the youth on their turf.
That is the way to sell them conservative principles and try to swing the culture back from the socialist-progressive abyss.
:wq!
Believe me, I’m no fan of Facebook. But in the furtherance of changing the culture I argue that you must meet them where they are. Facebook and Google Plus (and a few others) are where the Low Information Voters hang out.
I just watched a Whittle video over at 1389 and Turning The Culture Around was one of the main thrusts there, too.
:wq!
Lily wrote:
maybe you should, get the heart pumping and all… no but seriously it’s not the movie it’s who profits from it. I hear people tell me “oh so I sniff some cocaine on Saturday night, I’m not hurting anyone” and I say well there are a whole lot of widows in Mexico that might disagree. I mean wtf Al Quada sell candy too… it’s not the candy it’s who get the money and what do they do with it.
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
I agree. I do it every chance I get. I have two sons and they have friends. Started early with them. But I have to warn you there are some just like with adults that you will never, ever reach. It is a sad fact..but indeed true. My advice to you when dealing with this age group….late teens, twenties and early 30′s….know when to fish or cut bait.
brookly red wrote:
Hey now on the heart! It already scares me!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you in part on victim-less crimes. There is no such thing as a victim-less crime. But what I am trying to say is it isn’t confined to the TV….
Lily wrote:
oh Lord no, but TV is the MSM, there are plenty of evil websites, books what have you, but 1 bad book dose not corrupt all of publishing nor 1 bad website sully the whole internet (hey it brought most of us together) but TV is a very old whore and really can’t be saved.
uh oh
Doctors found a blood clot when examining Hillary today (I assume in her head)
I’m nervous as a cat…
Dallas/Washington up next…
another heart attack
@ brookly red:
As far as news sites yeah there needs a huge shift to fix on TV. But just as much as there is bad…you can also find some good. Besides I also agree with you that too many people get their information solely from TV!!! I shake my head at that! Good grief. I don’t watch the news on TV all that much. Sometimes I just need a break from the news. My TV is mostly used for watching DVD’s or series without an agenda and no commericals! Plus right now I’m stuck on the couch and the computer can only intertain me only so far and reading a book can only carry me only so far. I refuse to watch TV during the day just on principal.
eaglesoars wrote:
That’s terrible news. In her head?
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/30/secretary-clinton-in-hospital-with-blood-clot-stemming-from-concussion/#ixzz2GaWBUcVJ
@ Lily:
How the hell did she get a concussion???? That resulted with a blood clot??? Doesn’t say.
heysoos wrote:
Would you like to borrow my pacemaker?
It comes equipped with a defibrillator in case your heart stops.
“tell em I fell down…
tell em I’m sick…
tell em I’m dying..
tell em whatever…”
Lily wrote:
well apparently she fainted and hit her head before she could testify on Benghazi…
Lily wrote:
she was sick w/a stomach virus, fainted, and hit her head
@ heysoos:
You mean Hillary? Hell I’d probably say the same thing…tell them whatever!
Calo wrote:
I tell you, I don’t remember how this came about, it was just an always thing…when the Cowboys lose, a piece of me dies…I miss Troy more than I miss my mother…it’s a sickness
heysoos wrote:
TOUCHDOWN WASHINGTON! … just kidding hows yer heart?
Cowboys/Redskins
for the division winner…epic
this is what football is all about
game time
@ brookly red:
weak…weak when it comes to this team….
these guys are gonna kill me for sure
heysoos wrote:
it’s OK just chew a few aspirin between wings
Another game with the Drama Cowboys. They’re killing me, I’m not a young man. Please Lord let them start the game like it’s the 4th quarter and they’re behind by 14 points!
good start for Dallas…
@ brookly red:
It was fine until you told me you were kidding that Washington scored.
Watching Dallas lose is like being a 49er fan and watching Oakland lose.
Satisfaction.
heysoos wrote:
Your still missing Troy??? Man oh man!
Calo wrote:
look, I loath the Cowboys but I give the devil his due… they are a good tea… Romo intercepted!
eaglesoars wrote:
Damn!
brookly red wrote:
Ha, ha, ha……
/it’s gonna be one of those nights for Dallas fans.
skins in fg range and 2 downs to throw…
Lily wrote:
DOINK!
Wow…Beckel just said that this is “the beginning of the end of the NRA.”
Umm…yeah…
//8,000 new members a day…
lobo91 wrote:
I may have to re-sign… still pissed endorsed Reid.
Lets see how healthy RGIII is. I really like the guy BTW. The race baiters hate him. In DC!
Was that Brit Hume in the Redskin press box?
romo sacked… hehehe
@ lobo91:
Beckel is an idiot….a huge one.
Rancher wrote:
Why do they hate him? The race baiters seem to perfected *hate* down to a art form.
Lily wrote:
He says that Wayne Lapierre “embarrassed himself” by doing that press conference, too.
Yes, having armed guards at schools is crazy. We clearly need more signs telling crazy people they can’t bring guns there, instead.
//
Romo threw another one????? Oh my!
brookly red wrote:
Wait a second … are you watching the game on TV?
Lily wrote:
He’s a Christian, well-educated, articulate and an honorable young man. The antithesis of what the libs want, demand and expect from a black man.
@ lobo91:
They are really taking this tragedy and abusing it to the 10th degree.
/it’s shameful.
Calo wrote:
no streaming, Quebec, to Paris, back to NY
@ Lily:
What’s going to be embarassing is watching Feinstein’s gun ban bill go “splat” when it’s introduced in the Senate.
huckfunn wrote:
Oh my goodness a Christian. That is what really they hate. The horrors!
In fact San Fran’s rookie QB is Christian too! They hate him because of his tat’s.
You know young people don’t care if being Christian is going to get you sneered at. I know my youngest son knows excatly what to say to someone who doesn’t believe and they start bashing him because he does.
Lily wrote:
He refuses to be defined by his race.
huckfunn wrote:
and he don’t read a teleprompter either…
lobo91 wrote:
Ah yep! I don’t see it going anywhere.
Lily wrote:
yes right down to where their souls should be
@ lobo91:
I’ll be watching C-Span streaming that day.
/galt
Rancher wrote:
Good for him. I wouldn’t either I am who I am. Not because of hair color or eye color or skin color. I and everyone else is more than that.
lobo91 wrote:
they promised to vote on it as soon as they pass a budget…
@ brookly red:
I signed up two people yesterday and one today.
@ brookly red:
Budget? We don’t need no steenkin’ budget!
//Harry Reid
lobo91 wrote:
well they could have a million more in NY if they didn’t treat us like shit.
brookly red wrote:
Oh. Then it’s never going to happen.
lobo91 wrote:
MFM will completely
forgetignore Lapierre’s recommendation for armed guards in schoolsifwhen the next massacre occurs at an unarmed school.brookly red wrote:
BWAHAHAHAHA
@ huckfunn:
Of course.
lobo91 wrote:
so mr. nra when does nyc get a test case?
Marcy Kaptur is an idiot.
She just said that if they don’t raise taxes on “the rich,” then people who earn “millions and billions of dollars” will “get” hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I guess she believes that everything belongs to the government, and they just let you keep some of it.
brookly red wrote:
Get lobo to get you to join and you could carry the torch in NYC???
/hey I’m throwing around thoughts.
@ brookly red:
Maybe when someone in NYC gets off their ass and files a lawsuit?
I think we’ve had this discussion before, and I’m not interested in having it again.
lobo91 wrote:
loud and clear sir.
lobo91 wrote:
Drunk driving kills more kids, let’s ban Alcohol.
@ Prebanned:
So does drowning. Let’s ban water.
TD Cowboys
Prebanned wrote:
Noooooo! Ban the cars.
Lily wrote:
no there are issues that are best left alone here.
lobo91 wrote:
don’t laugh they are trying to ban carbon…
@ brookly red:
Here’s who you need to talk to:
NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund
That’s where the lawyers work.
@ brookly red:
I’m fairly certain that you can’t ban an element.
Especially one that’s the basis of all life on the planet.
@ brookly red:
Okay didn’t know there was some history behind this.
lobo91 wrote:
thanks, I knew that from my 30+ year membership… I did get a cute Chinese pocket knife though.
Seriously I don’t want to beef with you, but if they don’t want to tap a market of 8 Million… what can I say?
In order to safeguard our country from pure evil, lets disarm all law abiding citizens.
lobo91 wrote:
Gosh your right! but we can tax it…
Prebanned wrote:
And put up more signs declaring gun free zones.
Prebanned wrote:
Excellent idea comrade, please to surrender all your unclean firearms to local mosque
But wait, they say, We do not want you disarmed, we just want to infringe on your right to keep and bear arms.
Infringe a lot.
@ lobo91:
Beckel takes the prize for inane remarks on the prime time
Five today.
“So you think that you can protect kids from guns in school with more guns.”
RIX wrote:
Most Middle & High schools in NYC have airport style metal detectors and cops to run them… juss sayin
@ RIX:
The Sandy Hook Staff showed that they had the courage to fight a monster with no weapons at all.
I think it is cruel to disarm law abiding people entrusted with our most precious citizens.
Ban Criminals first before guns. It seems like it’s only criminals who misuse them? Why give criminals all these rights to walk around free in preference to restricting some metal owners?
cowboys are being whimps here they should have gone for 3… now the skins smell their fear.
@ 240m RIX: yes
darkwords wrote:
fine let’s start in the Senate
@ brookly red:
Apparently Beckle thinks that a gun is no defense agaist a gun.
RIX wrote:
who is this Beckel person? I have no TV…
Prebanned wrote:
They did & with armed security , they might still be alive.
RIX wrote:
Right, we can test this theory.
Lets just have Him defend himself against a gun with objects found in a typical classroom.
For safety, we will substitute a can of bear pepper spray and a law enforcement style tazer for the gun he is supposed to defend himself against.
RIX wrote:
with security it would not have happened in the first place…
RIX wrote:
IIRC beckel is a gun owner
eaglesoars wrote:
so is Castro…
@ brookly red:
Beckle is an ex Jimmy Carter guy & a Dem consultant.
He is actually a crude buffoon & they treat him that way.
brookly red wrote:
@ eaglesoars:
Figures.
RIX wrote:
He ran Mondale’s campaign
@ Prebanned:
I was going to suggest using one of these, instead.
It’s what our guards at the Camp Bucca prison camp in southern Iraq used to carry.
//Industrial-strength paintball gun
@ RIX:
yeah, I was just making a no TV snark…
@ Prebanned:
Guys like Beckle are more concerned about scoring points than solutions.
Night all.
lobo91 wrote:
isn’t that what the border patrol guy Holder’s people murdered was using?
@ brookly red:
Not that I’d heard. They don’t typically use “less-lethal” weapons like that. No real need for them.
The tower guards at Bucca used them to mark prisoners who were acting up, so the entry teams could identify them.
Works much better than telling them “It’s the Arab guy in the orange jumpsuit”
lobo91 wrote:
One of our Adopt-a-Soldier guys was stationed there!
eaglesoars wrote:
It wasn’t that bad for people who weren’t involved directly with the detainees. The north side of the camp had all the usual amenities.
lobo91 wrote:
Heh!
@ huckfunn:
They also hurt like hell.
It ends up being “It’s the Arab guy in the orange jumpsuit with the big red splotch on his back and a nasty-looking bruise under it.”
lobo91 wrote:
He wasn’t. But he got his fill of Iraqis anyway.
3 point game with 5:50 to go. Dallas down by 3.
Well, if we knew Romo was getting paid to throw the games with interceptions and fumbles it would at least make some sense, unless Jones is way into blow jobs or something.
brookly red wrote:
You got that right.
brookly red wrote:
I’m not in favor of public schools AT ALL -- but if you’re going to have them, armed guards are a great idea