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UK Ready For Zombie Apocalypse OOT

by Macker ( 93 Comments › )
Filed under OOT, Open thread, UK at January 1st, 2013 - 10:00 pm

No, not the Mohammedans who are Zombies anyway…no, THESE Zombies!

In the event of an apocalypse brought about by an army of the undead, civil servants would co-ordinate the military’s efforts to “return England to its pre-attack glory”, according to a Freedom of Information request that has revealed the country’s contingency plans.
The MoD would not lead efforts to plan for such a zombie attack or deal with the aftermath because that role rests with the Cabinet Office, which co-ordinates emergency planning for the Government.
Details about the authorities’ surprising level of readiness for a zombie onslaught emerged in a response to an inquiry from a member of the public.
The MoD replied: “In the event of an apocalyptic incident (eg zombies), any plans to rebuild and return England to its pre-attack glory would be led by the Cabinet Office, and thus any pre-planning activity would also taken place there.
“The Ministry of Defence’s role in any such event would be to provide military support to the civil authorities, not take the lead. Consequently, the Ministry of Defence holds no information on this matter.”

Oh great. Leave it in the hands of the bureaucrats and watch how effective their efforts will be. Just like the NHS.

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  1. lobo91
    1 | January 1, 2013 10:07 pm

    Oh great. Leave it in the hands of the bureaucrats and watch how effective their efforts will be.

    As if it would be any different here?

    DHS would be the lead agency in the US.


  2. 2 | January 1, 2013 10:09 pm

    The whole zombie thing is really stupid. I love zombie movies as muha s the next guy, but I also realize that when someone is dead, they stay dead until the resurrection, and the resurrected do not mindeleesly kill and eat the living.

    For the government of any nation to actually acknolweledge a possible zombie scenario is mind-boggling to the extreme. Why would any government do that?


  3. lobo91
    3 | January 1, 2013 10:13 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    For the government of any nation to actually acknolweledge a possible zombie scenario is mind-boggling to the extreme. Why would any government do that?

    Because it’s something the average person can comprehend, basically.

    There really isn’t that much difference in planning for a zombie apocalypse than there would be for some sort of extremely virulent outbreak that could actually happen.


  4. 4 | January 1, 2013 10:13 pm

    Wanna get rich? Invest 20,000 dollars and build AR15 components in your garage. Bolt carrier groups used to cist about $150 and now they are going for over $300. A milling machine to make lower and upper receivers are in the 10 to 15 thousand dollar range, but the barrels and bolts are what will be harder to come by.


  5. Bumr50
    5 | January 1, 2013 10:13 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    You’ve obviously never seen ‘The Serpent and the Rainbow.’

    //


  6. 6 | January 1, 2013 10:14 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    You are right. I haven’t.


  7. lobo91
    7 | January 1, 2013 10:23 pm

    @ father_of_10:

    BTW, if you don’t believe in zombies, how do you explain Congress?
    //


  8. Brick
    8 | January 1, 2013 10:39 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    The whole zombie thing is really stupid. I love zombie movies as muha s the next guy, but I also realize that when someone is dead, they stay dead until the resurrection, and the resurrected do not mindeleesly kill and eat the living.
    For the government of any nation to actually acknolweledge a possible zombie scenario is mind-boggling to the extreme. Why would any government do that?

    Any official .gov “zombie” contingencies will not be dealing with the zombies of the George Romero type. Substitute something like food, or water for brains and game it forward from there.


  9. 9 | January 1, 2013 10:46 pm

    @ father_of_10:
    Gotta justify fat salaries for their buddies somehow.


  10. 10 | January 1, 2013 10:49 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    The whole zombie thing is really stupid. I love zombie movies as muha s the next guy, but I also realize that when someone is dead, they stay dead until the resurrection, and the resurrected do not mindeleesly kill and eat the living.

    For the government of any nation to actually acknolweledge a possible zombie scenario is mind-boggling to the extreme. Why would any government do that?

    to keep their populace stupid and easily controlled.


  11. John Difool
    11 | January 1, 2013 10:49 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    The whole zombie thing is really stupid. I love zombie movies as muha s the next guy, but I also realize that when someone is dead, they stay dead until the resurrection, and the resurrected do not mindeleesly kill and eat the living.
    For the government of any nation to actually acknolweledge a possible zombie scenario is mind-boggling to the extreme. Why would any government do that?

    Not so ridiculous, I’m of the firm belief The Occupy movement was/is the first signs of a zombie apocalypse since most of them were brain-dead window-lickers.

    The difference being they were supported & applauded by our government & media.


  12. 12 | January 1, 2013 10:50 pm

    Do I see twin zombies in that picture?


  13. Bumr50
    13 | January 1, 2013 10:52 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Obviously cloned.

    //


  14. John Difool
    14 | January 1, 2013 10:55 pm

    Is that a pic from Shawn of the Dead up top?

    That’s not so much a movie as it is a documentary on the current state of the British populace.


  15. John Difool
    15 | January 1, 2013 11:04 pm

    Oh now this is rich….The Irony, It Burns


  16. lobo91
    16 | January 1, 2013 11:04 pm

    Well, speaking of zombies, the House passed the “fiscal cliff” crap bill.

    Primarily Democrats voted for it.


  17. CynicalConservative
    17 | January 1, 2013 11:06 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Another brick in the wall…

    /galt


  18. lobo91
    18 | January 1, 2013 11:14 pm

    @ CynicalConservative:

    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.

    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.


  19. Brick
    19 | January 1, 2013 11:16 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ CynicalConservative:
    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.
    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.

    The belt’s busted on the record player. They’re spinning it by hand now until they all make sure they have a designated chair when the music stops.


  20. Lily
    20 | January 1, 2013 11:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ father_of_10:
    BTW, if you don’t believe in zombies, how do you explain Congress?
    //

    Darn it! I don’t get the Zombie craze either..but you are right it is one way to explain Congress. ;)


  21. John Difool
    21 | January 1, 2013 11:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ CynicalConservative:
    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.
    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.

    Has anyone seen a tally of the (R) & (D) votes on this shit-charade anywhere yet?


  22. CynicalConservative
    22 | January 1, 2013 11:18 pm

    @ lobo91:
    What’s sad (maybe) is that I’m not even remotely surprised. Kabuki Theater.

    /galt (it’s not just a catch phrase)


  23. Brick
    23 | January 1, 2013 11:18 pm

    In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
    By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
    But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
    And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”


  24. Lily
    24 | January 1, 2013 11:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ CynicalConservative:
    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.
    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.

    I came to the conclusion when obama was re-elected. :(
    /so totally! We have so many stupid people in this country there should be a law. (Well at least my son thinks so..about the law)


  25. 25 | January 1, 2013 11:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ CynicalConservative:
    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.
    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.

    You are right. I was just thinking about Denny Hastert today. If he were still the Speaker or even the Whip, this would NOT be happening.


  26. Lily
    26 | January 1, 2013 11:22 pm

    Kirly wrote:

    Do I see twin zombies in that picture?

    Yep looks that way! ;)


  27. 27 | January 1, 2013 11:23 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I contacted my Rep. a month ago and asked him to oppose Boehner.


  28. lobo91
    28 | January 1, 2013 11:24 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ CynicalConservative:
    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.
    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.
    Has anyone seen a tally of the (R) & (D) votes on this shit-charade anywhere yet?

    It was about 85 R and 170 D in favor.

    Boehner and Ryan voted for it. Cantor and McCarthy voted no.


  29. John Difool
    29 | January 1, 2013 11:24 pm

    @ CzechRebel:

    As much as Newt Gingrich has soured on me over the last several years I don’t think this shit would be going on with even him in there right now.


  30. lobo91
    30 | January 1, 2013 11:26 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ CzechRebel:
    As much as Newt Gingrich has soured on me over the last several years I don’t think this shit would be going on with even him in there right now.

    Hell, no. He actually understood how our government is supposed to work.


  31. John Difool
    31 | January 1, 2013 11:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    John Difool wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    @ CynicalConservative:
    Boehner has to be removed. He’s clearly not up to the job.
    Since that’s not going to happen, we’re basically screwed.
    Has anyone seen a tally of the (R) & (D) votes on this shit-charade anywhere yet?
    It was about 85 R and 170 D in favor.
    Boehner and Ryan voted for it. Cantor and McCarthy voted no.

    O’RLY? you mean Mr. Big Time Fiscal Whiz Kid, Paul Ryan? That Ryan?

    Cantor is almost equally detestable because the only reason he voted no is because he’s making a play for Boehner’s speakership, but he’s been behind him 100% up until the 11th hour.


  32. 32 | January 1, 2013 11:29 pm

    John Difool wrote:

    @ CzechRebel:
    As much as Newt Gingrich has soured on me over the last several years I don’t think this shit would be going on with even him in there right now.

    Certainly not with Newt either. I only met him once. That was a long time ago. However, Denny was pretty good at “flying under the radar.” This is the type of thing that that made him excel.

    OK, Newt is a lot smarter, I know. But, but when you need to get things done, give me Denny any day.


  33. Lily
    33 | January 1, 2013 11:35 pm

    @ lobo91:

    How were the fire-works last night? Did the snow stop them? If not how did Leia do?
    /I know we had to medicate our dog and still he was a nervous wreck. He was about to jump out of his skin. As soon as it got dark the fire-works started..so for 6 straight hours we heard lots and lots of fire-works. Thankfully tonight I haven’t heard any!


  34. lobo91
    34 | January 1, 2013 11:37 pm

    @ Lily:

    They weren’t too bad. Leia wasn’t happy, but she survived.


  35. rain of lead
    35 | January 1, 2013 11:38 pm

    @ Lily:

    Hi {{{lily}}}
    glad to see you feeling better


  36. John Difool
    36 | January 1, 2013 11:38 pm

    The higher tax rates start at a single person making 400k a year and couples making 450k. So once again, they’re punishing marriage not rewarding no surprise there. Nevermind the fact that the payroll tax holiday has ended & wasn’t re-upped by the Senate in H.R.8 so that’s a big tax hike for the middle class right there. The media won’t report on it since most people probably didn’t even realize it was in place & if people start bitching the GOP will get blamed.

    The liberals of course are livid those tax hikes didn’t start at 250k. I’m for tax-cuts across the board & massively cutting government spending, however, quite a few folks on the left & at places like Huffpo did bring up a good point: Why start it at 400K?

    Could it be because a lot of the folks in the Senate & House would get affected if it were at the 250k threshold & decided to vote themselves a tax-break instead?

    Yep, you know it.

    I truly despise this pos government.


  37. 37 | January 1, 2013 11:39 pm

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Lily:

    Hi {{{lily}}}
    glad to see you feeling better

    yes, what lobo said! how ARE you??


  38. 38 | January 1, 2013 11:40 pm

    @ Kirly:
    oops, i mean rain, not lobo


  39. lobo91
    39 | January 1, 2013 11:42 pm

    @ John Difool:

    I truly despise this pos government.

    I think we’ve moved from “government” to “regime.”


  40. Lily
    40 | January 1, 2013 11:43 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Hey {rain}! Getting better! Thankful to be alive for sure! Hope you and your family had a great Christmas and New Years!
    /I must confess I’m as cranky as cranky can get! Talked to Calo about it she said it was the surgery…so hopefully for my family it will pass soon! ;)


  41. Lily
    41 | January 1, 2013 11:45 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Hanging in there {Kirly}! I still hurt but it’s a lot better than a couple of weeks ago! ;)


  42. John Difool
    42 | January 1, 2013 11:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    I truly despise this pos government.
    I think we’ve moved from “government” to “regime.”

    Banana Republic works too.


  43. Lily
    43 | January 1, 2013 11:46 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    They weren’t too bad. Leia wasn’t happy, but she survived.

    Good to hear. So the snow didn’t hinder the fire-works? Not surprised the rain didn’t hinder them here either.


  44. rain of lead
    44 | January 1, 2013 11:49 pm

    @ Lily:

    christmas was great.
    don’t be cranky, you’re toes up :)

    Rains’s Rule #1

    Don’t sweat the small stuff!

    Rain’s Rule #2

    It’s all small stuff!!!!!


  45. 45 | January 1, 2013 11:51 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    Hanging in there {Kirly}! I still hurt but it’s a lot better than a couple of weeks ago!

    glad to hear you’re doing better {Lily}!


  46. Lily
    46 | January 1, 2013 11:55 pm

    @ rain of lead:

    Will do! :)


  47. rain of lead
    47 | January 1, 2013 11:56 pm

    saw this elsewhere and shamelessly stole it

    This administration should win a daytime Emmy®. Between Petraeus’s salacious affair and Clinton’s impromptu trips to the emergency room, all to avoid testifying, they’re giving Days of Our Lives some fierce competition. Can’t wait for Hillary’s twin Millary to make an appearance, Hillary to suffer amnesia, and Ambassador Stevens to return from the dead to reveal Benghazi was just a cover up–for something FAR MORE SINISTER!

    (that was for momcat cause she’s a days fan)


  48. Lily
    48 | January 1, 2013 11:57 pm

    @ Kirly:

    Yeah…Kirly..2013 has got to be a better year for sure. I’m very lucky and blessed though I’ve got to say that for sure. Things could have gone sideways real quick on me.


  49. John Difool
    49 | January 2, 2013 12:04 am

    Anybody want to take a guess what the fiscal deal is now being called in the msm?


  50. rain of lead
    50 | January 2, 2013 12:08 am

    @ John Difool:

    obama saves the universe?


  51. momcat
    51 | January 2, 2013 12:11 am

    @ rain of lead:
    You did good on that,even though you dont watch it. I need new avator.

    tor.


  52. John Difool
    52 | January 2, 2013 12:12 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ John Difool:
    obama saves the universe?

    Heh.

    Not quite: McConnell-Biden

    Not Biden-McConnell, not H.R.8 not Biden-Reid…..McConnell-Biden

    Thanks Mitch !


  53. 53 | January 2, 2013 12:21 am

    Lily wrote:

    @ Kirly:

    Yeah…Kirly..2013 has got to be a better year for sure. I’m very lucky and blessed though I’ve got to say that for sure. Things could have gone sideways real quick on me.

    i’m glad things didn’t go sideways!


  54. Calo
    54 | January 2, 2013 12:27 am

    @ momcat:
    Meh, happy new year momcat


  55. momcat
    55 | January 2, 2013 12:35 am

    Happy new year . Love the pic but rain sad it is not the new year anymore need winter pic.@ Calo:


  56. rain of lead
    56 | January 2, 2013 12:36 am

    @ momcat:

    refresh 2.0 and see how i did


  57. rain of lead
    57 | January 2, 2013 12:38 am

    @ momcat:

    c’mon, post something


  58. momcat
    58 | January 2, 2013 12:39 am

    @ rain of lead:
    I dont see it.


  59. momcat
    59 | January 2, 2013 12:40 am

    @ rain of lead:
    Trying again


  60. rain of lead
    60 | January 2, 2013 12:42 am

    @ momcat:

    I see it now
    oooohhhh!!!


  61. momcat
    61 | January 2, 2013 12:42 am

    Thanks rain.


  62. rain of lead
    62 | January 2, 2013 12:43 am

    @ momcat:

    gotta keep ma girl looking sharp


  63. momcat
    63 | January 2, 2013 12:45 am

    @ rain of lead:
    you have to get up early.


  64. rain of lead
    64 | January 2, 2013 12:48 am

    @ momcat:

    yeah
    out and down


  65. eaglesoars
    65 | January 2, 2013 12:50 am

    repost from downstairs

    heh. Remember the Journal News was going to double down and publish names/addresses of gun permit holders in Putnam County.

    Well, no, they’re not. Because Putnam County just said NO

    Putnam County Clerk Dennis Sant said he would defy a request for information about pistol permit holders from the White Plains, New York-based Journal News, which has come under criticism for publishing thousands of such identities already.

    “There is the rule of law, and there is right and wrong and the Journal News is clearly wrong,” Sant said in a statement. “I could not live with myself if one Putnam pistol permit holder was put in harm’s way, for the sole purpose of selling newspapers.”


  66. Calo
    66 | January 2, 2013 12:52 am

    @ rain of lead:
    Rain, sleep time.

    mom, you are beautiful, as usual.

    I’ll try to post you a better avatar later.

    I’m tired tonight.


  67. ThreeHundred
    67 | January 2, 2013 3:55 am

    To my usual charities: not this year.


  68. 68 | January 2, 2013 4:08 am

    RE last evening’s discussion on the glories of emmigration/expatriation/running away…

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”

    Samuel Adams

    “I yam disgustipated!”

    Popeye

    Can’t go wrong with the classics, after all…


  69. storagemanger
    69 | January 2, 2013 5:58 am

    Syrian Rebels Behead Christian Man
    Jan. 2….(Israel Today) As Western-backed Syrian rebels celebrated victories in cities across the north of the country, they also reportedly took revenge on minorities who had failed to fully side with them against embattled dictator Bashar Assad. Agnes-Mariam de la Croix, a Syrian nun, told foreign media that in one instance a taxi driver was pulled from his vehicle by rebel fighters and beheaded, his body thrown as food to stray dogs. The man’s crime? His brother had been overheard complaining about the behavior of the rebel forces. Sister Agnes-Mariam says it was that, combined with the fact that the victim, Andrei Arbashe, was a Christian that made him a target for the rebels. Sister Agnes-Mariam fled Syria over the summer after being warned that the rebels intended to abduct her. Since then, she has been speaking out over the atrocities committed by Syrian rebels, atrocities that are being all but ignored by the mainstream media and the Western governments supporting the Free Syria Army and its satellite groups. “The uprising has been hijacked by Islamist mercenaries who are more interested in fighting a holy war than in changing the government,” she recently told The Sunday Times, adding, “Christians are paying a high price.”


  70. storagemanger
    70 | January 2, 2013 6:03 am

    Day in history

    Spain: 1492

    Reconquista: Granada, the last Moorish stronghold in Spain, surrenders.


  71. Da_Beerfreak
    71 | January 2, 2013 6:07 am

    Baby Doc Baraq assumes more dictatorial powers.
    Obama: No More Debt Ceiling


  72. storagemanger
    72 | January 2, 2013 6:09 am

    Lastly, for Americans, there is the prospect of debt that could render the dollar useless and yet we continue to see Congress relentlessly borrowing and spending more money than the economy can possibly sustain; $4.8 billion is borrowed every day. All good and bad things come to an end if prudence and good governance is not exercised.

    All this has long been known. In 55 BC, the Roman philosopher, Marcus Tillius Cicero, said “The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/doomsday-et-cetera?f=must_reads#ixzz2GocEPz4v
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution


  73. 73 | January 2, 2013 6:12 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Got ammo?


  74. Da_Beerfreak
    74 | January 2, 2013 6:20 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Not as much as I would like. :wink:


  75. 75 | January 2, 2013 6:21 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Not as much as I would like.

    Well, that’s not a physical possibility anyway…


  76. 76 | January 2, 2013 6:30 am

    By the way, we just lost another of the great ones the other day. Mike Auldridge, dead at the age of 73, from prostate cancer. The dobro player for The Seldom Scene and with many other groups as well as his solo career, Mike was in some ways to the dobro what Earl was to the banjo – he re-defined how to play it. Vaya con Dios, Mike.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW5hRNSYNlU


  77. storagemanger
    77 | January 2, 2013 6:31 am

    The republic of California would like America to look at its ammo law.


  78. 78 | January 2, 2013 6:43 am

    The Seldom Scene at Asheville, NC in 2001, with a bit of unexpected extras. That’s Mike on the right on the dobro, of course.

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1KhzAISdzc


  79. storagemanger
    79 | January 2, 2013 6:45 am

    California passes a sane law…

    - Same-sex marriage: SB1140 specifies that if same-sex marriages become legal in California, no priest, minister, rabbi or authorized person of any religious denomination could be required to solemnize a marriage that is contrary to the tenets of his or her faith.

    Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/dec/30/new-year-to-bring-876-new-laws-to-california/#ixzz2GolIcPGc
    – vcstar.com


  80. 80 | January 2, 2013 7:08 am

    @ storagemanger:

    But that won’t be the end of it. The proponants of same sex marriage intend to use the State to bludgeon religious institutions into performing marriages against their faith. You can see the foreshadowing of this in Obama’s requirements that Catholics pay for abortion as part of their health-care coverage. It isn’t just about more money for Big Aborition. It is making people bow to the god Government before they bow to their God. I have no trustin the government that they won’t make same-sex marriage an equal assault on freedom of religion.


  81. buzzsawmonkey
    81 | January 2, 2013 7:54 am

    @ storagemanger:
    @ Iron Fist:

    The fact that this has to be specified in a separate law makes it certain that the law will be flouted.

    As soon as same-sex marriage is ruled a “right” by the Supreme Court (look for that early this Spring, when the First DA/DT Justice writes the opinion on the same-sex marriage case now before the Supreme Court), the law will be challenged as a denial of “equal protection” to same-sex marriage seekers.


  82. 82 | January 2, 2013 8:02 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I was hoping you’d drop by and comment on this. You are a lotmore eloquent on the subject than I am. But we believe essentially the same thing, and I think are coming at it from the same perspective. I used to be a supporter of same-sex marriage, as a matter of fairness. But gays themselves have convinced me that what they want is not an analogy to traditional marriage for themselves, but rather to destroy traditional marriage for heterosexuals. The final straw is Obama’s attempt to force the Catholic Church to fund abortion against its beliefs. This is the most direct attack on freedom of religion in American history by any President. It will no doubt be followed with more of the same.


  83. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | January 2, 2013 8:06 am

    The entire push for same-sex marriage, as opposed to domestic partnership protections, is for the purpose of destroying the First and Tenth Amendments.

    The First Amendment guarantees are already semi-gutted. The guarantee of free speech is gutted thanks to the gay-rights lobby’s popularization of the bogus concept of “hate speech,” which makes expression of opinions not popular with the Left beyond the pale. That will be expanded to the point it has already reached in Europe, where reading the Biblical prohibitions against homosexual behavior aloud are considered “hate speech.” Freedom of association has been gutted also; the same-sex marriage proponents are suing private businesses that decline same-sex marriage business. Laws which are supposed to “guarantee” freedom of religion by promising that religious practitioners need not violate their conscience by performing same-sex marriages are being passed for the purpose of being struck down—and once they are struck down it will be possible to demand such ceremonies be performed by unwilling officiants, under threat of legal penalty.

    The combining of the Second Circuit case against the federal Defense of Marriage Act with the Ninth Circuit case ruling that California residents may not vote to amend their constitution to prohibit same-sex marriage will render the Tenth Amendment a dead letter. The Second Circuit case will be used to void the DOMA on a “states’ rights” basis, so that Obama and the Democrats do not have to repeal the law, and enshrining same-sex marriage as a fundamental right. Under cover of this bogus “states’ rights” ruling, the California case will void California citizens’ right to amend their own constitution—and presto! The Tenth Amendment and federalism are dead.


  84. buzzsawmonkey
    84 | January 2, 2013 8:11 am

    And, again—I will remind people that the “modern” gay-rights movement was founded with, among other objectives, the object of destroying marriage and “heteronormativity,” though the movement did not yet use that term.

    “Heteronormativity” is being systematically attacked in the schools, through sex education in grade- and highschools and in colleges through Queer Studies and Gender Studies programs. That is the “soft” side of the legal attack against marriage; the “hard” side is the Cloward-Pivening of marriage through same-sex marriage legalization.


  85. waldensianspirit
    85 | January 2, 2013 8:15 am

    Tomorrow the repukes vote to keep Boehner as the the house spokeshole. Noone else wants the job


  86. waldensianspirit
    86 | January 2, 2013 8:17 am

    Paul Ryan voted yes to screwing our economy of course


  87. rain of lead
    87 | January 2, 2013 8:18 am

    hehe

    a group of self-described ”2nd Amendment supporters” claims it has downloaded and posted on the web what it describes as the “user” database of the Journal News.

    lohud.com was hacked by 2nd amendment supporters in response to the posting of sensitive gun owner information. This database contains user email, name, username, password, name, phone number and address of ~10,000 lohud.com users
    Feel free to make maps of Lohud users with this data

    payback, it can be a bitch


  88. waldensianspirit
    88 | January 2, 2013 8:22 am

    Section 317 of the freshly approved legislation includes an extension for “special expensing rules for certain film and television productions.” Congress first enacted production tax incentives favorable to the domestic entertainment industry in 2004, and extended them in 2008, but the deal was meant to expire in 2011.

    The fiscal cliff deal extends the tax incentives through 2013–even as payroll taxes rise on ordinary Americans.


  89. 89 | January 2, 2013 8:24 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    End the Hollywood tax cuts! These are just gifts from the Democrats to their supporters. Tha the Republicans don’t have the balls to go after them is very telling.


  90. Da_Beerfreak
    90 | January 2, 2013 8:26 am

    @ waldensianspirit:
    Two parties in name only.

    There is no viable second party trying to stop Obama and his Marxist minions. :evil:


  91. buzzsawmonkey
    91 | January 2, 2013 8:27 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I used to be a supporter of same-sex marriage, as a matter of fairness. But gays themselves have convinced me that what they want is not an analogy to traditional marriage for themselves, but rather to destroy traditional marriage for heterosexuals.

    As I point out in #84, the destruction of marriage has been an objective of the gay-rights movement from the beginning.

    That does not mean that this ideology is held by all same-sex marriage proponents; the genius of communist movements has always been to find something over which one could agitate on a “fairness” basis, then get a large number of people to go along with the stated objective while keeping the genuine objective way in the background.

    The false equation of failing to legalize same-sex marriage with the anti-miscegenation laws that voided interracial marriage (which were overturned by the Supreme Court in the 1960s) ignores the fact that the anti-miscegenation laws voided otherwise-legal marriages on the basis of the extraneous element of race, whereas same-sex marriage proponents demand the legalization/creation of a new form of marriage.

    The gay-rights movement has been a human-rights movement, as opposed to a civil-rights movement, from the get-go. It has been working for forty years to hermit-crab its way into the shell of the Civil Rights Movement and make homosexual-behavior practitioners a “protected class” as race is. The same-sex marriage movement is its means for doing this.


  92. 92 | January 2, 2013 8:34 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yep, well said. “Divide and conquer” is a strategy as old as man himself. How did we eventually defeat Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany after official hostilities were completed? We destroyed the existing ideological infrastructures and replaced them with our own – essentially, that’s what the Left is now doing domestically.

    Truly, “there is noting new under the sun”.


  93. Da_Beerfreak
    93 | January 2, 2013 8:41 am

    Russia won’t renew Kyoto Protocol

    Russia will not renew its commitment to the Kyoto Protocol.
    Moscow won’t join the second phase of the Kyoto Protocol, which starts on January 1st 2013.

    Russia decided to discontinue its participation in the protocol because the world’s major producers of greenhouse gases – the United States, China and India – are still refusing to commit themselves to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    Because of that, Russian leaders say, the Kyoto Protocol, which came into force seven years ago, had no impact on the rate of global warming.

    Voice of Russia, Mayak


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