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Published on Dec 6, 2012 by IsraelinContext
Singer Stevie Wonder agreed to perform at the 2012 winter gala of the Friends of the Israel Defense Forces, until anti-Israel groups pressured him to cancel. Stevie caved to their lies and propaganda and backed out. Stevie, this one is for you.
Show your love for Israel and stand up against the hateful boycott against Israel by signing this petition: http://westandforisrael.com/.
Lyrics (sing along!):
No Hannukah
For Stevie Wonder
No blue & white chocolate coins to give awayThe Arab Spring
No cause to sing
In fact, for terror it’s just an ordinary dayThe rockets rain
on Israel’s bloom
No one stands up for Israel in her time of gloomBut what Israel is,
is something true
No one can stop three words that we must say to you:We just called to say we love you
We just called to say how much we care
We just called to say we love you
And we support you from the bottom of our heartsNow’s the time
To end the lies
To shine the Jewish light through the Arabian nightNo Sabbath peace,
while sirens ring,
not even time for the few birds to fly through southern skiesIsrael’s the sun
The Mid-east Queen
She gets no thanks for all the bounty that she bringsBut Israel, you’re oh so good
Defend yourself as only you ever couldWe just called to say we love you
We just called to say how much we care
We just called to say we love you
And we support you from the bottom of our hearts—
This video was produced and created by:
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and
Israel in Context – www.facebook.com/israelincontextConcept: Orit Arfa
Lyrics: Orit and Sharon Arfa
Vocals: Orit Arfa
Direction: Lara Berman & Orit Arfa
Production: Lara Berman & Orit Arfa
Editing: Lara Berman
Tags: BDS, Open thread, Stevie Wonder
That whole BDS charade is an epic failure.
Ok this is related enough to allow a segway I think
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/130221/sec_id/130221
Aussie Infidel wrote:
I just finished reading it.
Of course no calls for boycotting Syria or Egypt.
Speranza wrote:
you lost me………….
eaglesoars wrote:
Boycott, Divestment, Sanction -- not difficult to understand what the left wants to do to Israel. They want to South Aficaize it as if Israel 2013 is South Africa 1985.
There’s not much of a compromise from the Democrats on this Fiscal Cliff deal. There are $41 in tax increases for every $1 of spending cuts (if, indeed, there are any real cuts). That’s not a compromise, that is a surrender.
@ Speranza:
And South Africa has turned out to be such a resounding success since they got their way…
//
Speranza wrote:
I think it encapsulates what happened in the 1970s and the underpinnings of Islam-infestation that goes back a further half century before that. One of my Friday Irish pub crew is a close friend of Bat Y’or. Alas her books though full of facts are somewhat dense and take quite a bit of fortitude to read from cover to cover. He’s trying to get bat Y’or and Mark Steyn together. with Y’or’s grasp of the facts and Steyns lighter wordplay, they would be a fearsome combination. Time will tell.
@ 2 Aussie Infidel:
@ Speranza:
Got it, thanks (I was trying to figure out what Bush Derangement Syndrome had to do with anything!)
@ 10 lobo91: There is a good reason no one drinks Zuma
Other than the fact that Pelosi has called on Boner to give the Senate bill and up or down vote today, I don’t see thatthere’s any news out of the House. I think some folks have jumped the gun a bit on this one.
Speaking as a some-time song parodist, while I applaud the impetus I wish it were better.
Mike C. wrote:
Exactly.
@ darkwords:
Bingo ! Give the man a cigar !
Speranza wrote:
Exactly. There’s a jerk over at PJM who posts under the name of “Markus” who keeps hitting the “apartheid” theme—as if the Arab exclusion of Jews from Arab countries is not, every day, more “apartheid” than anything Israel has ever done.
BTW, NPR, in one of its rare revealing moments of candor, ran a feature about a year ago which basically detailed that the violence in South Africa under the miracles of majority rule has become so bad that “even the blacks are leaving.” South Africa is a shit hole of the first order.
lobo91 wrote:
She’s not calling for Bonehead to do an up or down vote on H.R. 8 which is what the Senate passed last night, she’s calling for a vote on Obama’s original bill just so she can get her crackly Botoxed mug in front of a camera & do some grandstanding about the evil extremist GOP Tea Party puppets wanting to see women & children starve.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Funny how similar things have happened in every single African country that’s been turned over to black majority rule.
I’m sure it’s just a coincidence…
I apologize for going off of topic.
Remember during his first run when Obama was asked about Bill Ayers?
He said that he was “just a guy from the neighborhood” and that “Our
children are friends.”
Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn have two sons born in 1977 & 1980!
I doubt very much that the kids were friends.
@ lobo91:
I really hate shit like this. Perhaps these blacks aren’t trying to be “like whites” God forbid. But rather exercising their personal options in free society now that they are not oppressed. Dogs are entertaining and provide companionship and even protection. Women, black or white, want HAIR OPTIONS! If your hair is kinky, you can’t style much. Just like white women with flat dishrag hair curl it and perm it and do all kinds of things that DOESN’T mean they’re betraying their race which, lets face it, is a disturbing and somewhat racially bigoted idea. We’re all the same race and this guy’s a bigot and a racist.
Iron Fist wrote:
I would like to see Boehner grow a vestigial set of balls and shut the whole damned government down, passing a continuing resolution to fund nothing other than the armed forces, the courts, and the federal police services. Anything else gets passed only upon a budget agreement which reins in entitlements—and the EPA, Department of Education, and several other agencies go on the block. No money for “czars” again, ever.
Boehner should be running the country at this point, given that he’s Speaker and the House controls the money. John McCormick, and Sam Rayburn before him, all but ran the country; the Speakership is one of the essential positions in the government. He should have Reid and Obama crawling naked over broken glass for every dime.
lobo91 wrote:
And Detroit.
Eric Cantor did say he doesn’t support the Senate bill, however, which has to count as ominous.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Boehner is like Lee Atwater….except without balls, a spine and the professionalisnm to show up for work sober.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Absolutely.
He also needs to inform the Democrats that there will be no more routine CRs to fund the government, the way they’ve been doing since Obama took over.
No budget? No money.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I think Boehner wishes he were the Minority leader. Everything he has done is craven weakness. The man is unfit for the Speakership. Obama has racked up, what, $3 trillion in debt since the Repubublicans took over the House? What are they waiting for? The Republicans are spineless.
John Difool wrote:
I wouldn’t care if he showed up for work drunk, if he were a really, really mean drunk.
Mike C. wrote:
Some are saying he’s making a play for Boehner’s seat which wouldn’t surprise me at all with this opportunist schmuck.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
LOL. You’re right, too bad Boehner is an emotional crying drunk.
yowza…that CNN simu-blowjob last night was pretty stunning…wonder what the kids thought about that
@ lobo91:
Things sure improved with those White Devils in South Africa
and Rhodesia deposed.
It’s all Utopia now.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Detroit’s more a Democrat thing. I don’t think it would be much different if the people running it were white.
In Africa, though, it’s pathological. Since the blacks took over, they basically just reflexively reject whatever the whites running things would have done, as if there’s such a thing as “white” or “black” economics.
heysoos wrote:
Any parent that turns on the t.v. and see’s Kathy Griffin and doesn’t immediately switch it back off isn’t much of a parent.
I guess we’re getting a first row seat in how world wars are started. Feckless, weak leadership, inaction in the face of clear evil, and then whistling past the graveyard until the inevitable and inescapeable confrontation with the existential threat. Of course by then we’ll be so flat busted and in debt we won’t even be able to clothe the soldiers much less arm them. It’s going to be scary when we want to go to war and China won’t loan us the money.
Boehner reminds me of the actor who plays Roger DeBris, the gay play director in the original The Producers with Zero Mostel and Gene Wilder.
heysoos wrote:
What I miss by not having a TV. Who did what to whom, and why?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I wonder where Zulubaby is. The last I heard from her (about 2 yrs?) she was dividing her time between Johannesburg and Tel Aviv. She has (had?) family in both.
@ heysoos:
I heard about that!My thought is that she was probably drunk on air, but with CNN who’d notice? Their target audience is Left, so they probably appreciated the free floor show.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
He reminds me of “Sensitive Elliot” from Bedazzled
In Africa it’s still a lack of reason and a reliance on the vestiages of tribalism and superstition. Still a huge problem. not just in Black Africa but in the lower med also.
But I think a market economy is what fundamentally drives them. Franchise values around soccer and things might improve or it becomes a continent of huge soccer riots. Soccer is a white EU sport isn’t it?
heysoos wrote:
Agreed. I watched the Griffin/Cooper vid on Breitbart in entirety just now. Her behavior didn’t surprise me but it made clear to me that nobody has any fricking sense at CNN. Cooper himself or some producer who’s thinking about the company’s market share should have been going apoplectic on breaks and saying “Get that dumbass OFF. NOW!” I’m no prude but what night other than NYE do kids get to stay up and watch the celebration? That is so out of place and just stupid business-wise. The competitor is saluting the perennially classy Dick Clark and you’re featuring miss Dick Suck on national TV? CNN: tune in NYE and see a craven ambition-drunk vulgar cnut do her blue standup with a reluctant gay guy and watch the ball (queue Beavis heh heh, heh heh) drop. Good luck with that marketing plan CNN.
@ eaglesoars:
She was devoted to America just long enough to get her citizenship and passport, then she bailed (with a golden ticket to a safe out tucked away.) Feh.
lobo91 wrote:
I’d have to disagree, to some extent: in both Detroit and Africa, you have galloping communism as the ruling principle. In Africa, it takes the form of “anti-colonialism” and racism; in Detroit, it takes the form of “fair-share” demagoguery and racism. Do not forget that for forty years the separatists, Islamists, and Marxists who considered themselves fighting the same “anti-colonial” fight as the Africans have had free rein in the black community. They have re-created the African “liberation movements” in miniature here, and the result in Detroit is that they are re-creating the veldt as the houses burn and are pulled down and the city goes back to vacant land.
John Difool wrote:
“Sensitive Elliot”? I saw Bedazzled recently (Peter Cook & Dudley Moore) and don’t remember that character.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I suppose it’s mostly a matter of degree.
Kathy Griffin had to be loaded and high. She kinda sucks the wholesomeness right out of life. Typical obama voter.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
The one with Brendan Frasier & Liz Hurley
@ darkwords:
Kathy Griffin is a nasty piece of work & worse she isn’t funny.
Just saw the Breitbart video. Clearly, Kathy Griffin—unable to be in Maine—wanted to kiss the sardine.
John Difool wrote:
Never saw it.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I didn’t see it either but it’s all over the net…
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/01/01/kathy-griffin-kisses-anderson-coopers-crotch-national-television#ixzz2GjV80us0
just unreal
darkwords wrote:
This vexation of talent & succubus threw herself (practically sexually assaulted) a prominent gay man on national t.v. & yet no cries of gay-bashing or homophobia from the left.
Imagine that.
For those out there nursing your New Year’s Day hangovers, try a bit of the hair of the dog that bit you.
@ heysoos:
See my #52
Urban Infidel wrote:
I see it’s a blended whiskey, which is appropriate since Obama is a mix of black and white, communist and Muslim, craven and bully….
Urban Infidel wrote:
mixes well with kool-aid
Urban Infidel wrote:
You drink that & tomorrow you’ll wake up & start blaming everyone named Bush for your problems.
John Difool wrote:
had half a bottle… Moochelle still don’t look good.
John Difool wrote:
Well, Bushmills was responsible for the first hangover…
@ brookly red:
Try the Brown Acid…
@ Aussie Infidel:
i saw the link you left to this on the previous thread. thanks for sharing that. i just finished reading it. people think i’m flippant and joking when i say, “we’re doomed”. they should read that and reconsider their opinion of my constant admonitions of doomage. unless we stop it, this is our future. i fear europe is already too far gone to save. perhaps a group of indigenous people there can lay claim to some limited amount of former territory, but i think that is all they can hope for. we here in the usa, are following in their footsteps.
@ Iron Fist:
Now come on -- how old were you when that originated?
does the US still nave neutron bombs…just wondering, I don’t know why I thought of that
brookly red wrote:
That’s called a Benghazi-tini.
darkwords wrote:
Living in NYC I have found an appreciation for lib chicks… juss sayin
Mike C. wrote:
Woodstock 1969
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
And every hangover since.
@ Mike C.:
I hadn’t been born yet! BUt I’ve heard about it. It is rather famous. I couldn’t tell you the name of a single band that played at Woodstock, but I know about the Brown Acid…
heysoos wrote:
Somebody ought to do a gun show called Woodstock—for weapons with wooden stocks and pistols with wooden grips.
It’d probably be a great event—and the Left would go nuts.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Followed by Glockapalooza
heysoos wrote:
No, we don’t currently maintain any in the inventory.
Instead of a guitar neck with a bird on it, the gun show “Woodstock” would have a rifle barrel with the wooden forward stock.
It would be immense.
heysoos wrote:
officially none were ever built…
John Difool wrote:
LOL!
@ Iron Fist:
Kids…
John Difool wrote:
the Newport Pistol Fest
brookly red wrote:
I have a feeling they will come in handy someday
heysoos wrote:
Monterey Popgun…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
winner
Obama wants us to have neutered-on bombs…
heysoos wrote:
Lilith FN FAL
heysoos wrote:
Unless it’s Detroit, it already looks like it’s been through WWIII, IV & V.
Instead of “three days of love and music” there could be “three days of weapons and patriotism.”
heysoos wrote:
Not really. The reason we don’t have any in stock today (and yes, they were built) is that they aren’t all the useful against any current threats.
There’s a lot of misconception about them. They were designed for use against large tank formations (think Soviet invasion of western Europe), not cities.
Iron Fist wrote:
ironically, the invited bands that didn’t play are more famous than the bands that did…
Beatles
Stones
Led Zep
the Doors
Dylan
Jeff Beck
Chicago
the Byrds
Zappa
Moody Blues
and a bunch of others all declined to play
@ lobo91:
I was facetious…I understand Tehran is sort of pretty, such a waste
@ Kirly:
Don’t forget to cut and paste this to your ‘doubting Thomas’ friends. Only by hammering away every chance we get will it eventually sink into their skulls.
Right now I am having a back and forth debate with George Cardinal Pell of Sydney. He seemed to have his head in a good place regarding Islam. Then he spent 6 months in the Vatican and arrived back in Australia all full of inter-faith outreach to Islamists. Something happened obviously. I fear that the ‘Vatican apparatchniks’ got to him.
Keep getting out the word Kirly
heysoos wrote:
The idea that such a bomb would kill people and “leave buildings standing” was nonsense put out by the anti-war/nuclear freeze idiots.
They’re still nuclear weapons. They just release more radiation than a standard warhead of the same yield. You might have a 10kt warhead that released the same amount of radiation as a normal 50kt one.
But it’s still a 10kt detonation, and is going to mess up a lot of real estate.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
at this point, islam as the enemy of wetern tradition is pretty clear. this should be especially clear to those in the vatican.
coldwarrior wrote:
You would think so.
coldwarrior wrote:
/the Pope of Rome, how many divisions does he have?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That is too easy. Let the armed services, courts and police take an unpaid vacation. Heck, furlough the non-violent federal prisoners while you are at it. Also put the Secret Service on a long unpaid vacation. If any president or former president needs security, let him pay for it himself. Make the entire Obama family crawl naked over the broken glass. All department heads, all Congressmen and Senators, the President and VP all are taxed at 100% of their income until the national debt is paid off. Enough is enough. No more money!
heysoos wrote:
What else would you expect from the Cocksuckers’ News Network?
heysoos wrote:
probably because you watched that hideous kathi griffin thing aggressively fighting anderson cooper so she could pretend to kiss his dick on CNN. what a freak! why doesn’t she kiss our ass and just go the hell away. why does anyone pay her to do anything??
coldwarrior wrote:
Quite true Coldwarrior. Alas there is a ‘corruptocracy’ within the Vatican that is right into the whole ‘One World Government’ let’s all hold hands and sing Kumbyyah together. Behind that is a nasty nest of political vipers keen to grasp as much power as possible whilst enjoying the company of the self styled Euro-elites.
How does one spell …SELL OUTS ?
Macker wrote:
+10
lobo91 wrote:
I think Pope Ben is less naive than he was at the beginning of his papacy.
@ CzechRebel:
Meanwhile, in the real world, they all got pay raises as of today.
Members of Congress got a $5,000 raise.
Kirly wrote:
Because CNN knows train-wreck t.v. gets a lot of viewers which is the only thing it cares about, that’s what our culture has devolved into now.
She’ll be back next year & the year after & the year after…..until she actually does whip out someones dick & sucks it live !
@ coldwarrior:
Did you read the URL site Review mate?
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/130221/sec id/130221
lobo91 wrote:
I question whether this pay raise was even legal. Obama doing this by executive order smacks more of a power-grab towards dictatorship, taking the power of the purse from Congress and confirming to the millions of low-info voters that the US Treasury is indeed his “stash.” It makes it look as though the Congress is working for him.
The Congress should refuse the pay raise on Constitutional grounds.
John Difool wrote:
all part of the AmIdol political circus
lobo91 wrote:
I thought Bachmann was bringing forth legislation to halt that, because Barry can’t do budgetary/spending stuff from the WH by EO because it’s un-Constitutional ?
Yea, I know, not like it stopped him before.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I read where it was voted down separately
lobo91 wrote:
Unfortunately, that is the real world. Hard to believe the US started with a revolution over penny-ante taxes. And when we resisted, London gave in everything and repealed the taxes.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
“Seriously? You’re serious?”
--Nancy Pelosi
@ Aussie Infidel:
got it.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
hahahahahah oh Gawd thats funny!
no raise
http://www.rollcall.com/news/senate_votes_to_kill_its_own_pay_raise-220443-1.html?pos=hln
@ heysoos:
The Senate voted to cancel it. The House hasn’t done anything with it.
heysoos wrote:
It was only about a $900 raise for backbenchers without committee assignments but I’ll bet Biden is livid over not getting his $9000 raise.
lobo91 wrote:
they don’t need to…it’s illegal, just more smoke
John Difool wrote:
he should be, that’s alot of six packs
I’m surprised Oba’Mao didn’t sneak a hearty raise in there for himself although he’s probably stealing enough under the table as it is.
heysoos wrote:
That’s only a Senate vote. Nothing is passed into law unless both houses pass it and Obama signs it.
Of course, Obama disregards the law with impunity; but the question is by what authority he can claim to “decree” a pay raise for Congress. If it had any brains, Congress would contest this as a power overreach by the President.
@ heysoos:
You’re getting funnier by the minute.
It may have escaped your notice, but at least half of what Obama’s done since he took office has been illegal.
When has that stopped him?
heysoos wrote:
“Most Audacious Pay-Raise In 500 Years !”
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I think you just found the problem…
lobo91 wrote:
Like all bullies, he is a coward. If Congress formed up and called him down for his illegal activity, loudly enough, he would back down. He’d try again, of course—but he’d back down.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
It was stuck into the “fiscal cliff” bill the Senate passed last night.
It doesn’t look like the House is going to even vote on it, so it’s irrelevant.
lobo91 wrote:
the Senate stopped him, that’s what counts
@ lobo91:
i never thought i would see one branch of government just roll over and give up power so easily. this is incredible to watch.
heysoos wrote:
No, it didn’t. If the House votes down, or doesn’t vote on, the Senate bill, whatever the Senate passed is irrelevant. And if both Houses pass it, and Obama doesn’t sign it, it’s irrelevant.
Nothing has “stopped” him.
@ heysoos:
The Senate hasn’t stopped a damn thing. You’re fantasizing.
@ lobo91:
He has been made into a god by the Media-Entertainment Industrial Complex.
coldwarrior wrote:
This is what capitulation to dictatorship looks like…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
okay, whatever…I thought that was my point
coldwarrior wrote:
Which is why both Boehner & Cantor need to go ASAP come this Thursday when the GOP votes for leadership positions. I am convinced not only were they very happy, they want to be back in the minority again.
Give me Ryan & bachmann.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Exactly. The Senate gets credit for “trying” to stop it, and still gets the money.
Win-win for them.
heysoos wrote:
they didn’t stop him they rejected the offer as too small…
lobo91 wrote:
the Senate took it out of the bill…I understand what you’re saying, but it was a load of shit that didn’t stick
coldwarrior wrote:
This will come back to bite the Left in the ass. eventually there will be a Rightwing Government that will use the same methods.
coldwarrior wrote:
It really is. If Boehner had a brain in his damn head, he’d realize that he’s the single most powerful person in the US government today.
Instead, he’s groveling and whining.
Rodan wrote:
It would be nice to get Sheldon Adelson, the Koch brothers, and a few of their like-minded well-heeled friends, and convince them to bribe a nice, sizable cabal of media figures to change their coverage of Obama. Two or three hundred million dollars, in the right places, would totally change the tone of the coverage.
Rodan wrote:
The gatekeepers of freedom & democracy, the 4th Estate is now the Treasonous 5th Column…but then again, I repeat myself.
Rodan wrote:
yes but at this rate they will all be Mullahs
@ heysoos:
There was no “bill” in the first place. Obama decreed a pay raise by Executive Order.
The “fiscal cliff” bill that the Senate passed last night (which appears to be DOA in the House) includes one sentence that says Congress doesn’t want the raise.
It’s entirely symbolic.
lobo91 wrote:
/well maybe he will lock himself in the bathroom and withhold sex… now that is power!
Aussie Infidel wrote:
Thanks for that link. I’m going to definitely read that. The Global Caliphate and the UN are imminent threats to the United States and the worthless communist has done severe damage in the first four years.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Funny how few people who actually live in dictatorships realize it . . . at least until it is too late.
organizations like the congress do not willingly give up power as a natural act, they seek to gain power.
something very bizarre is going on here.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
The current incarnation of the Right has no imagination. The Rich funders of the Right do not know how to use their money effectively. I foresee Democrat dominance for the next 10-12 years until a reformed Republican Party or a New Rightwing Party merges.
lobo91 wrote:
Yes, as I said upthread.
The Speaker is actually supposed to be the most powerful person in the government; the President is Congress’ errand boy. But Boehner lumbers over to the White House, hat in hand, begging for fish scraps.
Rodan wrote:
I wish that I believed you were correct, but I don’t. Number one, we have to actually elect a real right-wing government. We’ve not really had that in 100 years, maybe longer than that. Number two, they’d have to have to political will to actually rule by decree the way Obama is, and haveto have the support of the MFM to do so. I don’t seeeither of those happening. So Obama does this with the consent of the Democrats precisely because they know that no right-wing government will ever act similarly.
@ John Difool:
The Democrats are an arm of the media.
@ Iron Fist:
You maybe Right for the forseeable future. But I’m referring in the future sometimes 20 years out.
Happy New Year yo and Velvet Glove!
Rodan wrote:
While there is a better chance of my being struck by a comet than this happening, if I were running the Republican Party things would be a lot different—and it would be fun.
brookly red wrote:
He realizes it just fine, he just doesn’t want to be. He can’t take the heat.
Say what you want about Pelosi but she did a fine damn job for her side with that gavel in her meat-hooks & had bigger cajones than both Boehner & Cantor put together to boot.
@ Rodan:
Happy New Year to you! I hope it is a good one
CzechRebel wrote:
My father left Germany in 36… I am seriously looking at Costa Rica.
not joking
coldwarrior wrote:
The Republican Party is under Leftist control. I am convinced the national GOP is a false flag operation for the Left.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Wow! Someone here who actually understands those parts of the Constitution.
brookly red wrote:
Panama is cheaper, look into that.
brookly red wrote:
my ex is moving there probably this year…nurse practioner
Rodan wrote:
too humid and the Chinese are there.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
In 20 years a New GOP or new Rightwing party will emerge. People do not like losing forever.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I guess that’s what happens when you replace civics and history classes with multi-culturalism and grievance theater.
I’m really getting sick of hearing about all these “negotiations” between Obama and Boehner. The “negotiation” is supposed to be between the House and Senate, not between the executive and legislative branches.
The president’s job is to sign or veto what they pass, and to carry it out. Period.
@ brookly red:
The Chinese are everywhere.
Rodan wrote:
they like the canal, they could care less about the DR
@ brookly red:
I think Muslims will be deported or slaughtered eventually in America.
brookly red wrote:
Be careful! There is a woman who post things like that here and the guys give her a really hard time over it.
@ brookly red:
I know all about that.
Rodan wrote:
If we continue on our current trajectory, what sort of government we have in 20 years will be irrelevant, because it’ll be governing whatever wasteland remains.
Iron Fist wrote:
Anything can be better than 2012.
Rodan wrote:
yes but that is 50 yrs out… I want to retire in 20
Rodan wrote:
Emerge from what? Like Athena from the head of Zeus? Like Aphrodite arising from the sea?
In twenty years the people who remember some elements of what the government and what conservative thought were supposed to be will be dead or retired. The books will be gone; between the government war against pre-1985 children’s books on “health” grounds, the libraries’ pulping of older texts, and the ability of stuff on Kindles and similar electronic platforms to be remotely revised (if they are even available), and the ongoing level of indoctrination in the schools, who the hell will there be to figure out what is wrong and how they are being screwed. “He who controls the past controls the present; he who controls the present controls the future,” as O’Brien says to Winston Smith in 1984.
Rodan wrote:
Unfortunately, I think you’re wrong there.
I fully expect 2013 to be worse.
lobo91 wrote:
It’s permissible for the President to send over a bill proposal to be introduced by one of his party, but Obama has, of course, written as many bills as he wrote law review articles—i.e., none. He’s too busy smackin’ white balls around (symbolically on the golf course, of course).
@ Urban Infidel:
Looks like I may have to pass on any more Tyrconnell if they’re sending bottles to the Dems.
@ lobo91:
Then you rebuild from the rubble. I am not painting a rosy scenario, but just giving an observation. I could be wrong, but hey it’s just specualtion.
Here’s a new series I am reading.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
here, let me simplify that down to one sentence.
Satan rules on earth.
@ lobo91:
You’re right. I was trying to be optimistic, but 2013 will be worse!
I again urge people to read Rudyard Kipling’s story The Mother Hive.
lobo91 wrote:
oh yes
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Sure, he can propose anything he wants. Happens all the time.
I’m talking about this crap of dragging the House and Senate leadership to the White House and basically demanding things be done the way he wants.
I also urge them to read this Kipling story: One View of the Question.
You will be glad you did.
Iron Fist wrote:
Anyone who thinks we’ll get the Whitehouse back in the foreseeable future or the Senate I want some of what you’re smoking.
Bottom line is, the demographics are not in our favor & they will continue to slide even further to not being in our favor. We may be lucky to hold The House for another decade maybe 15 yrs. tops. The reason why is the districting is in our favor right now, not the Dems. The winner takes all of the Senate & EC is still very much in their favor because of the square yardage of the urban areas with all of the warm bodies of the Free-Shit Army the Dems can crank out to the polls. That is superior to the conservative votership in the suburbs & rural areas which favor the red districts & House seats.
Our district superiority ain’t gonna last forever.
The only way for this to change is for teet to get cut off to the Free Shit Army which is now a permanent voter bloc for the Dems & then an economic followed by the inevitable societal collapse.
lobo91 wrote:
Yes. The House and Senate leaders should basically be saying to Obama, “You want something? You come here and ask us.”
@ Rodan:
I’m talking about literal rubble, though. As in, the remnants left after another civil war, that will make the previous one look like a dispute over your neighbor’s loud music.
@ lobo91:
The White House (Obama) is gloating “We made them break their
no tax pledge.”
Obama is like a twelve year old brat.
CzechRebel wrote:
no, it isn’t “the guys”, it’s me. and i don’t give her, or you, a “hard time over it”. I give her a hard time for saying, repeatedly and for years, that she is leaving the country because it’s so messed up. so i say, go already and quit whining about it. of course she never leaves. the last straw was when she said she’s ready to go in the next year or too, by gosh, right after her husband (which i believe is you) gets the medical care he needs. yeah, this country is completely messed up and worthy of abandonment right up until the moment she decides she needs something more from it. and, i’ll bet you’re getting that medical care essentially for free too via medicare or some such. THAT, for the record, is the crap i object to.
carry on.
lobo91 wrote:
In honor of the retiring Massachusetts House member who has been so responsible for starting this mess with the subprime mortgages, I propose that it be called “Barney rubble”—particularly since so many will be reduced to living in caves.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I wanted to throw something at my TV yesterday. There was a Dem consultant on, who basically said “Who cares what the House republicans ran on? Obama won.”
Rodan wrote:
right, because that’s what Americans do, they slaughter people.
what the hell is in your head, posting that crap?
@ Kirly:
Most people who complain about things here have never spent any significant amount of time in another country.
Going to Epcot doesn’t count.
lobo91 wrote:
you are right I don’t dispute, my point (to Rodan) is eventually our “American way” is in line with God’s will and will persevere… I am 54, I don’t have time for 40 years in the wilderness.
RIX wrote:
We expect this of him. What gets my dander up is like yesterday when the GOP was almost in tears over it like a 3 yr. old who just had their blocks taken away. Man the hell up!.
They were successfully trolled by a master troll.
Kirly wrote:
hey we are talking 50 yrs down the road. If you don’t think we are capable of of that ask any Native American… they might have a less self righteous view.
@ Kirly:
@ Kirly:
Please pass what you are smoking my way next.
I couldn’t agree with you more.
@ Kirly:
Eventually Americans will tired of them having influence on our Government. They will tire of sending our armed forces to fight for their interests.
Americans maybe a tolerant people, but we are humans. When pushed to the edge, people’s survival instincts will kick in.
That is the patten of history.
@ John Difool:
The GOP should stop treating Obama with such respect.
Bush was treated with maximum disrespect.
They should nod to the office , but the man has earned none.
lobo91 wrote:
yes, i believe you’re correct. i’ve spent a bit of time in other countries but not thirdworld shit holes. although i have spent enough time in france to see what appear to be otherwise civilized men just whip it out and take a whiz on a tree like a dog.
Calo wrote:
When running there comes a point & time when there’s nowhere left to run. You’re money down in Costa Rica ain’t gonna be worth the paper it’s printed on when the American, European & Asian markets collapse & the U.S. government stops mailing your SS checks to you & decides to keep it for themselves.
Frankly, the entire situation would be improved if someone like Scott Brown went up and pimp-slapped Harry Reid to his knees on the Senate floor. Brown would be a good choice, since he is an out-going Senator.
Under Article I, Section 6, “[Members of Congress] shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.”
Pimp-slapping Reid is, arguably, a “breach of the peace,” but I’d bet a good lawyer could get a jury nullification if it even came to a charge—and the shock to Reid (and his ideological allies) might actually jar him into a more conciliatory stance. Even if it didn’t, it would be a joy to watch on video.
brookly red wrote:
you mean like my Cherokee ancestors?
you don’t know enough about me to insultingly call me righteous.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I say lock them all up.
@ lobo91:
here’s another book series that might interest you.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
No, I want to see Reid horse-whipped . Refresh my memory, didn’t that actually happen in The Senate or House at one time back in the 1800′s?
Kirly wrote:
all the more I call you naive if you think Americans will not act in their (our) best interests, for better or worse is debatable, but yes we as a people can get nasty like that
John Difool wrote:
Who’s got a horse-whip any more—or knows how to handle it? A pimp-slapping would suffice.
I believe you are correct that some 19th-century Senator horsewhipped another, but I don’t recall the details.
Kabuki-Theater, Dog & Pony Show, Bread & Circuses update:
Reid is punting it back to the House saying the vote last night was the last & final offer. No revisions will be made. Boehner now says he only has 40, maybe 50 votes. he needs 120.
Popcorn time.
Statement from Boehner on latest developments:
http://www.gothamresistance.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/john-boehner-crying.jpg
John Difool wrote:
burn baby burn, let the automatic cuts begin
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
they used to horse whip you in the senate if you voted neigh
John Difool wrote:
Reid has been acting the way Boehner should be.
Boehner is not the Speaker of the House; he is the Squeaker of the House. He has shown where he stands on the “man or mouse” question.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I pray to all that is holy they vote out Shakes the Clown as SotH Thursday & send Cantor to the back of the bench as well.
@ brookly red:
nice of you to put words in my mouth. i never said anything that you and rodan are saying i said. in fact, i never even implied any of the bullshit the two of you have attributed to me. it would be wise to at least have an understanding of what the individual said before you attack them for something you say they said. gosh, it’s almost like being alinsky’d.
for the record, and for the last damn time, i implied it was nuts for rodan to state that he thought moslems would be slaughtered in the USA. and i made a sarcastic remark about how Americans are so well known for slaughtering.
Rodan wrote:
Hunan Fried Rice!
The Osprey wrote:
I am going lo-mein tonight… I am in a noodle state of mind.
Cry, Boehner, cry
Give up with no try
Constitution is a dead letter
So cry, Boehner, cry
—the We’re-Always-Beat-les
@ buzzsawmonkey:
You’re thinking of Preston Brooks:
Kirly wrote:
chill dude
A@ The Osprey:
Don’t get Brookly started!
Happy New year by the way!
brookly red wrote:
since i wasn’t the one that went on the attack, i suggest you chill.
and it’s dudette, not dude.
Rodan wrote:
too late. it seems the honor for that goes to me this New Years Day.
damn but it’s freezing here in AZ.
@ brookly red:
Uh oh.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Knowing a little something about whips, I vote he be bull whipped rather than horse whipped.
We all know what a bull whip looks like, courtesy of Indiana Jones, but a horse whip is far too kind for Boehner.
It would be more appropriate if he needed persuaded.
I’d like to see him punished.
It’s more of a flexible rod with only a small tassle that hangs at the end.
Kirly wrote:
Time to ban weather & ban states !
@ Kirly:
Is that normal for this time of year in Arizona? It’s 75 right now here in Florida.
@ Kirly:
Freezing would be an improvement here. It’s 27.
Kirly wrote:
attack? I stated my opinion and that is an attack? OK, whatever I am sorry if my views upset you, all my fault I should have known better.
lobo91 wrote:
You think the Dems are really going to push for some Gun Control or is it just talk?
Rodan wrote:
They’re going to try. I doubt that it will go anywhere at the national level. All bets are off for individual states, though.
The real question is, what will Obama try to do by Executive Order?
CzechRebel wrote:
I was pondering that last night while watching the trailer for “Katyn”. Made for a gloomy New Years Eve.
@ lobo91:
That’s what I am worried about. If he can’t get legislation, he will try an end run. He will use the guise of “safety” to do it.
@ The Osprey:
Hey check out this series I am reading.
Rodan wrote:
It’s a bit on the cold side for PHX here today. 56. Tonights low will be around 35…in the city, which means that out in the desert it will be colder.
Go up to Flagstaff and the temps are Colorado like. 27 right now, forecast for 5 tonight. Brrrrrrrr!
John Difool wrote:
Here you go but it wasn’t a horse whip
@ The Osprey:
Flagstaff is pretty high up, of course.
Even higher than Colorado Springs.
Rodan wrote:
The scenario reminds me of that video game…I think it’s called “Battlefield 2142″ or something like that.
New Ice Age precipitates global war for remaining arable land.
@ The Osprey:
So much for global warming?
Kirly wrote:
Seem to have really rattled your cage. You are one paranoid dude. My solution is secession. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can claim to “love” his “country” and not realize that peaceful secession is the only way to save it. You do know the difference between expatriation and secession, don’t you? 1389blog.com/2012/12/31/how-patriotism-becomes-idolatry-and-why-secession-is-the-only-answer See my latest blog post Patriotism Idolatry and Secession
lobo91 wrote:
Yeah, I think the town is like 7000-7500 feet up and the mountain peak where the ski slope is something like 9000 feet.
Rodan wrote:
They’ll push for it alright, I’m sure of it because nothing is an accident 7 we all know the msm get their talking points straight from Barry’s desk now which is why we’re seeing the demogoguing of it in the msm right now.
The guy bashing the Constitution in the NYT-Jazeera yesterday was no accident either. Trying to soften up the populace before a full assault on their 2nd amendment rights.
Problem is, there are millions of law abiding Dem gun owners too who would no sooner part with theirs, than you or I would part with ours. this would be a single issue that would galvanize people of both sides together.
This issue….it’s dead, Jim.
Rodan wrote:
Gore Effect.
@ The Osprey:
It’s a very realistic scenario. An Ice Age is more likely than Global Warming. Just look at history, there is always Cold age. Warm ages don’t last long actually.
LOL 1,100 cars burnt in Paris last night… maybe they should try fire works.
Rodan wrote:
An ice age? Everybody stock up on gin!
Rodan wrote:
And look at that stupid movie The Day After Tomorrow.
An ice age caused by global warming.
brookly red wrote:
That’s what the French get for turning off the lights to conserve power. The yoots of undetermined religious origin must not be big fans of it.
@ John Difool:
It is one of the few truly bipartisan issues left.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Or vodka.
@ lobo91:
Global Warming causes everything in the Left’s mind. I guess the Sun has no effect. These people are such fraudsters.
lobo91 wrote:
Ironic isn’t? The very thing the elite extremist left hates the most (other than free-speech) is the very thing that could be their final undoing if they attempted it.
@ CzechRebel:
Advocating for seccession while planning to watch what happens from another country is pretty much a bunch of bullshit.
That’s the kindest thing I could think to say about it.
@ Rodan:
My favorite part of that movie is when the big expert scientist played by Dennis Quaid testifies before Congress about how this big catastrophe is going to happen sometime in the next 20 years or something in that range.
And then it happens like 3 weeks later.
You would think that would make people question the validity of their predictions…
brookly red wrote:
Tradition!
Rodan wrote:
when I was in high school in 76 they were hysterical that the new ice age was on the way… the whole thing was to move the population from the north to the south cause air conditioning was more efficient then heating… I would love to ask some of my high school teachers how they felt today but they all died of AIDS in the 90′s … reality is a bitch.
@ lobo91:
The Left never questions anything. They believe any lie and then propagate it.
@ brookly red:
Global Cooling will be back. Gore will claim the data was wrong and he will be an Ice Age alarmist.
@ brookly red:
And the same people who were pushing that fraud are largely the ones behind the global warming scam.
You would think that that would set off a few alarm bells…
lobo91 wrote:
Not to mention, it’s the scientists & urban dwellers who are the only ones who know how to survive in the aftermath & not actual folks who you know…know how to survive.
brookly red wrote:
A while back, Zombie did a great article over at PJM, quoting all the booga-booga ice age stuff and then comparing it to the “global warming” stuff.
Exactly the same predictions.
Exactly the same causes.
Exactly the same prescriptions.
Exactly the same people.
Crock of shit then, crock of shit now.
@ John Difool:
Wishful thinking on their part.
Rodan wrote:
That’s appropriate. His science is wooly, and he’s getting mammoth.
Rodan wrote:
every one here was alive for the ice age scam, then the global warming scam, now the climate change scam…how many times do we need to here this bullshit before we just kick their teeth in?
lobo91 wrote:
I always lol in movies when they do that. However, The Walking Dead does get it right. You don’t see any lib professors , politicians or smarmy liberal yuppies in that lot.
Hmm…the House is apparently going into session in a few minutes.
The Osprey wrote:
♫Gore-y Gore-y Hallelujah!
Monsters of the World Unite!♫
I remember some guy from LGF, lived near San Francisco….he posted this very old picture of some boulders near the shore in the harbor…like 100yrs old or more….so ge paddles his kayak out there and takes the exact same picture and presto!…water levels were the same
@ John Difool:
Well, except for that one guy in the town who was convinced that he could prevent dead people from turning.
That didn’t go so well.
lobo91 wrote:
lobo91 wrote:
voter ID is all I have to say
@ heysoos:
Most of those idiots actually believe that melting arctic ice will cause the oceans to rise.
They apparently aren’t aware of the fact that the arctic ice is floating in the ocean now. If every speck of it melted (not that it’s going to), it would make no difference in sea levels.
Rodan wrote:
it’s a bit below average at the moment. just feels bloody freezing to us desert rats.
@ brookly red:
Zombies don’t vote
he liberals in DC muscle their way into Hollywood….got to pay the piper
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/01/01/hollywood-loophole-fiscal-cliff
lobo91 wrote:
Just heard Boehner is going for an up or down vote on the original Senate bill from last night after kicking it back to the Senate, then having Reid give him the middle-finger before the Senate blew town.
So in essence, there was no need to kick it back to the Senate to begin with because he already knew what would happen. He won’t get the votes & Oba’Mao the msm & the Dems will be wailing & pointing fingers at the GOP for the next 24-72 hrs.
Yes, Boehner is one useless milquetoast spineless, sob.He played right into Reid/Pelosi & the msm’s hands just like we knew he would.
He makes a very nice pet for his Demonrat overlords.
Rodan wrote:
of course they will. when do they NOT push for gun control. they might actually get some too. after all, they did in the 90s. and they banned things based on stupid criteria like they’re scary-looking.
The Osprey wrote:
it was 34 at my house just before 8am this morning. i live out on the edge of the city so it’s a little colder. my pool pump anti-freeze mechanism kicked in and kept it running an extra hour.
@ Kirly:
If that insane Feinstein bill were to pass, I think it would go a long way toward pushing us into civil war.
lobo91 wrote:
The problem with that scenario is, it may not cause the oceans to rise but frozen ice is freshwater & that much getting dumped back into the oceans could (theoretically) shut down the saline warm water conveyer belts like the Gulfstream that transport warm air to the higher latitudes causing….you guessed it, another ice-age.
John Difool wrote:
They can eat each others smugly superior intellects!
@ CzechRebel:
for crying out loud with the blog pimping! sheesh! and, in case you haven’t noticed, as many here have explained to you, the issue of secession was resolved with hundreds of thousands dead and maimed in the 19th century. if you think for one second that the USG is going to stand by while Texas or any other state peacefully secedes, you’re deluded AND ignoring history. Panama, Costa Rica, or whatever the hell country awaits you. i’ll take you seriously when you guys actually do what you’ve been saying for years now.
“Global Warming” may more properly be described as “the Jerkwad Effect.”
Some wealthy, entitled jerkwad builds a beach house too close to the water; the waves and maybe a storm or two do what they do naturally and the house collapses or is washed away.
The jerkwad is outraged—that’s the sort of thing that’s supposed to happen to poor people in bungalow beach colonies, and people who live in trailer parks, not to him. So, clearly, the world must be coming to an end! The climate must be changing! Rich, entitled idiots are not supposed to be subject to the laws of nature! If they are, it must be due to a global catastrophe!
Kirly wrote:
Difference is, Americans are even more pro-gun now than any point in several decades even if we have slid a lot farther left. Gun violence is at a 40 or 50 year low.
They’ll wail & gnash their teeth about it, but nothing will be done about it. All the talk right now about it is just opiate for the far-left masses.
@ 68 brookly red: There is that Curb your Enthusiasm episode where Larry gets caught up in street protests about the Middle East and ends up in an affair with a Hamas supporter.
@ 278 John Difool: I just came from lunch at McD’s where the guy next to me was enjoying his McRib (available for a limited time only) and a handgun fell out of his sweat suit onto the floor. He just picked it up and acted like it was nothing.
Mike C. wrote:
No, you don’t understand the difference between the two words. “Expatriation” means moving to another country and starting a new life there.
“Secession” means sovereign states PEACEFULLY leaving the tyranny of the Washington, D.C. government. The ones that love tyranny may remain in the so-called “union.”
When secession occurs, you simple stay put. If you look at what happened in the former Czechoslovakia, you can see a good example of peaceful secession.
@ lobo91:
The one that bans “high-capacity ammunition feeding devises?”
Didn’t she almost blow BOTH the Zodiac and Night Stalker cases?
Failing upward must be an amazing thing to experience.
If people was gun control they can set up metal detectors and then check in any weapons at the door.
darkwords wrote:
That was the McRubOut, also available for a limited time only…
Rodan wrote:
unfortunately, global cooling will be back. and no one will believe the idiots who cried wolf the last two times. with any luck, the next ice age will be “little”.
John Difool wrote:
keep pounding away with the fact, all the while dialing up the mockery of their stupidity….bomb them on even the smallest, least important issues
lobo91 wrote:
We are already experiencing a kind of ‘soft’ civil war. Though it probably won’t happen, there is a lot of talk of secession. The country is more divided now than I’ve ever seen it.
darkwords wrote:
an unsecured weapon is a huge something….he’s an idiot
@ 276 Kirly: Putin might be standing on the Russian shore thinking he can see a vacation house in Alaska. If they would just dump the US.
Civil strife would have to happen before enough people would leave the US. I would think it would be armed and bloody. It’s a history that could repeat itself. When Obama approaches the US constitution like Al Quaida approaches Islam. My way or the highway. Force enough people to be rats and rats is what you will get. A lot of them.
darkwords wrote:
That actually sounds really funny.
lobo91 wrote:
they can’t comprehend that the ice in their glass of water actually melts without causing the glass of water to overflow. they really are that stupid!
darkwords wrote:
Clearly the only solution is to ban McRibs.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Ew.
darkwords wrote:
Clearly the only solution is to ban McRibs…..and sweatsuits.
Kirly wrote:
No, you got the wrong century. Most of the successful secession has happened in the late 20th century, not the 19th. (You do know that the 19th century was the 1800s and the 20th the 1900s, don’t you?)
Look, I am not the one to whom an explanation needs to be given. You are the one who is still having difficulty understanding the difference between the words “expatriation” and “secession.”
Let me try again. “Expatriation” means voting with your feet, that is leaving for a new land. “Secession” means to dissolve a political alliance while staying home.
It is so hard for me to see why you are so incapable of seeing the difference.
The way to succeed today to to make a Facebook page about it. And tweet and pinterest it out. Get about 55 million likes and it might work. Instant communication. No BS.
lobo91 wrote:
i don’t know. there are so many unregistered guns in this country that the resources to hunt them all down and confiscate them would bankrupt even sooner than wer’re already going to be backrupt.
@ Bumr50:
If all her bill was about was “banning” large magazines, she might be able to get it passed, but it’s not.
She wants to redefine most semi-automatic rifles as “machine guns,” and make them subject to regulation by the ATF. You’d have to get permission from your local jurisdiction to own one, be fingerprinted, pay a $200 fee, and get permission to take it across state lines.
And you wouldn’t be able to sell it. When you die, it’s forfeited to the government.
“it’s the oil cans!….
get away from the oil cans!”
my browser seems to be running on three legs….
slow to load
@ 290 Urban Infidel: She works at a middle eastern rest. that is extremely anti Israel but he loves the food there.
@ CzechRebel:
No, I am not cufusing a damned thing. First of all, I have lived in a foreign country, for 5.5 years, so I damned well know what expatriate means. And secondly, 1389 AD has simultaneously advocated for seccession while announcing her plans to be elsewhere when it happens. If “bullshit” is not the correct word, try “cowardly.” You assume seccession wouldn’t result in violence, but that’s an assumption, And an easy one to make if one isn’t at any risk from being wrong.
Oh, and leaving one’s country to permanently move to another country is called “emmigration”, not “expatriation.” Most American expats of working age expect to return to America -- I’ve worked with hundreds of them, all over the world.
@ Kirly:
How many people in Congress actually think about things like that?
looks like the House is gonna head butt BO
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/senate-clears-fiscal-cliff-deal-89-8-85640.html
Kirly wrote:
If they manage to ban guns, drugs won’t be the only thing the cartels will be running into this country….with the added benefit that our own federal government already gave them thousands to sell to us.
@ Kirly:
I didn’t realize you’re in the Sonora Desert! I watched a Nat Geo broadcast about it. That little grasshopper mouse is a feisty little bugger.
That howl is chilling.
@ brookly red:
See what I mean.
@ 303 lobo91:
The OYC will hunt down the guns. Obama Youth Corp. A few of them get shot at the start and give O an excuse to roll in the police and the military. I believe that is how Mao consolidated his power. Get an occupy movement going, get people outraged, get people afraid, denigrate the leaders of the opposition. Let violence occur and look the other way. Then once in power toss the OWS bums to the curb. Similiar to Egypt also.
@ CzechRebel:
i know the words. but i also know my own history. secession in the US was already settled by the Civil War and the USG isn’t going to sit idly by while you debate the finer points of your prized vocabulary.
what Mike C said. go watch it from south america, after you get your free medical care here of course.
lobo91 wrote:
No, not just rifles, all semi-autos even hand-guns. If they manage to ban high-capacity mags that renders my Glock 22 .40 practically useless if my current magazine gives out.
Trust me, I’m working on getting more as we speak but there is a big-time run on everything gun related right now.
@ 304 heysoos: I’m ok if the O get stomped. Extra $75 a week out of my pay check I think. I can stop going to Starbucks.
heysoos wrote:
i think the thread is heavy.
Bumr50 wrote:
Really? What the hell did she do?
@ Kirly:
I seriously doubt our federal government is going to sit peaceably by & do nothing when the majority of the makers secede from the takers. It would be suicide for whatever country was left over for them.
Kirly wrote:
A New, Lighter Thread..with 1/3 less Heavy.
I wouldn’t succeed in the traditional way. I’d make the social media stuff first. Then start nickel and diming the feds. Toll booths on all Federal highways. Make them expensive to drive on. Subsidized schools with no fed money. High Property taxes on all Federal buildings. Extra income taxes on all Federal workers in the state. And I would do it in the name of states rights, not succeeding. Until that cliff came.
Anyone with a local angle to life would be made into a hero.
Tough to do though when you think about it. A lot of federal law is weeded into the local existence. There would be points in affairs where the two sides would have a power stand off. Like Waco.
eaglesoars wrote:
leaked information to the press.
lobo91 wrote:
on the one hand, i think probably far too many.
on the other hand, i don’t think they think about the implications of their votes.
@ John Difool:
It always amazes me that everyone from other states always assume that Texas wants to secede from the US.
Kirly wrote:
the First Rule of elected office is to make sure you get re-elected
@ John Difool:
Yes, she wants to reinstate the ban on magazines that hold more than 10 rounds for both rifles and pistols.
But the part about registration under the NFA only applies to rifles.
There’s a summary on her website.
@ eaglesoars:
Night Stalker:
eaglesoars wrote:
yep. even our cute little mice are ferocious!
yeah, those coyote howls can be creepy if they are too close. where i live, you don’t want to be out walking at night. a single coyote isn’t such a big deal but getting between what you think is one coyote while he howls to his pack is quite another (yes, that happened to me; don’t go out unarmed late in the day anymore!).
@ Kirly:
That sucks, but in 3 months it will be hot again.
John Difool wrote:
i’m not sure why you were responding to me. i agree with you.
Kirly wrote:
Same same down-under with a twist. The ‘Warmists’ are currently waxing lyrical about a chunk of Antarctic SEA ICE Shelf that is about to break off. They completely ignore the reason. The Antarctic glaciers are growing at such an alarming rate that they are putting pressure on the FLOATING sea ice in front of them. The reason is that the ice is growing at a fast rate due to cooling in the Southern Hemisphere.
Facts mean nothing to these idiots. They are examples of secular socialists who replace religion with Green Gaia worship.
What a bunch of ‘maroons!’
To quote Bugs Bunny
@ Rodan:
It’s lovely and warm here in NZ just now. Light breeze, 76 F fair weather cumulus and loads of sun.
You in the SW Kirley?
Mike C. wrote:
Gee, a lot of people believe in both the right to political secession and an individual right to leave the country. If you are in favor of people being free, you should believe that both are viable alternatives. I guess that those who love tyranny would therefore hate both alternatives.
So, I guess you believe that the people who went over the Berlin Wall during the Cold War were “cowardly”, don’t you? Many of the same people who lived behind the Iron Curtain and thought of risking it all to leave were later involved in some of the successful secessions of the late 20th Century.
I ONLY support peaceful secession. When secession is a win-win proposition, it works out very peacefully. When a bunch of nuts find a foreign power to back them, it is very ugly. Wit what happened in the former Yugoslavia. It is very unlikely that a well-negotiated secession treaty would somehow turn violent.
I think that the terms “emigration” and “expatriation” are pretty much used interchangeable these days. However, if my memory serves me correctly and what I found on a quick Internet search was correct, the legal term “expatriation” is used when the person wants to renounce his citizenship. (It might be a smart think to actually ask the individual in question what the intention is rather than assuming that the two of you have the same definition.)
Kirly wrote:
I was just agreeing with the points you were making above. If anyone thinks there will be a peaceful transition during a secession they are a bit delusional.
It will be a bad break-up with plenty of domestic violence involved.
Kirly wrote:
What medical treatment?
@ CzechRebel:
I believe Kirly is referring to this post.
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2012/11/06/election-2012-post-3/#comment-1109657
@ Rodan:
Hey, I haven’t listen to Coast-to-Coast with George Nouri for years, but he used to have an Ice Age guy come on. The Ice Age guy has been expecting one to come when we least expect it.
One of the interesting points that this guy makes is that an Ice Age does not require it to get that much colder. He says that once you get a glacier going, it kind of keeps the air around it cold and it keeps growing.
Maybe someone remembers the Ice Age guys name? I sure cannot.
@ Calo:
It says “500 Server Error” I don’t get it.
This country is not breaking up and if people are so down on the American Experiment they can vote with their feet.
lobo91 wrote:
I thought the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. //
Speranza wrote:
So you actually believe that the productive half of the country is going to just sit around and be bled dry in order to finance Obama’s Free Shit Army for the rest of their lives?
I don’t.
lobo91 wrote:
This country is not breaking up.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
If I recall, there’s a recently ratified Amendment that does not allow Congresscritters to vote themselves largesse during their current terms.
@ Speranza:
You’re starting to remind me of someone who’s usually around in the morning.
Repeating statements over and over doesn’t make them facts.
lobo91 wrote:
As opposed to your “facts” that this nation is going to break up? What pray tell is your evidence?
Also please do not condescend towards me.
lobo91 wrote:
Yes they are. It is called democracy. Vote the motherfucker out, don’t take your toys and go home when it does not go away. Obamaism is not sustainable and breaking up the United States of America (a nation which I believe you served in the military) is treason.
Calo wrote:
We have personally heard from a lot of people in TX who DO want to secede. It’s people who want to secede…when the tipping point is reached, it’ll happen.
CzechRebel wrote:
We at 1389 Blog are NOT getting adequate medical care here, free or otherwise. We expect to pay our hard-earned cash for it elsewhere.
darkwords wrote:
That could work.
darkwords wrote:
We don’t go to Starbucks. It’s a thrift-shop Mr. Coffee at home, with cans of coffee from our local dollar store.
Mike C. wrote:
Nothing cowardly about it! I am a hell of a lot more aggressive than Reb. If there were a militant and heavily armed secession movement I WOULD HAVE JOINED IT ALREADY, whether anybody else likes it or not. Yes, I would’ve put my ancient creaky old a$$ on the line, and I would have been delighted and honored to have the opportunity. I still would! Suffice it to say that anybody who is interested knows where to find me in real life. But there is no such thing. There is no such thing as an army of one, and I can’t do it all by myself. So I’m gonna emigrate.
Kirly wrote:
Settled, only if you capitulate to the assertion that might makes right -- which IMO is the devil’s logic.
Kirly wrote:
Our plans are in the works and are pretty far along.
Responsible emigration takes planning.
@ Speranza:
Obamaism is going to cause the nation to break up. You apparently have trouble understanding cause and effect.
Advocating the violent overthrow of the government would constitute treason. I’ve certainly never done any such thing, here or anywhere else, and I don’t appreciate the implication.
lobo91 wrote:
Strawman argument. Breaking up the United States is treason while done violently or trying to do it peacefully..
@ Speranza:
Another swing and miss.
Try reading the US Code sometime.
And you can stick the implication that I’m advocating treason up your ass.
Aussie Infidel wrote:
yes, i’m in Arizona.