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An appreciation of Martin Peretz

by Speranza ( 63 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Bill Clinton, Israel, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Palestinians, Progressives at January 2nd, 2013 - 8:00 am

Boy do I remember the 1968 New york City Public Schools strike and the anti-Semitism and anti-White hatred that flowed from the militants in Ocean-Hill Brownsville. That anti-Semitsm made a lot (but not nearly enough) of Jews question the fact that the alleged Black-Jewish alliance appeared to be a one-way street.

by Caroline Glick

By the time I began developing a political consciousness in the early 1980s, I didn’t have any choice but to be on the right side of the political spectrum. By the early 1980s, the political Left in the US had already abandoned support for Israel.
When I grew up in what would later become Barack Obama’s neighborhood in Chicago, the black political machine in the neighborhood and the city, led by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan was openly anti-Semitic and pro-Muslim. The white Left was also hostile. The Communists were anti-Israel. The media was anti-Israel.
As a proud Jewish girl, it was clear to me from adolescence on that I could only locate myself on the political Right.
This was not the case for people who came of age in the 1950s and early 1960s. At that time, the USSR had not yet cut off its relations with Israel. The civil rights movement was a joint Jewish-black movement.
For those of you who don’t know the history, the NAACP was founded by Jews. The plaintiff in Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka, the landmark Supreme Court decision from 1954 that opened the path to school desegregation, was represented by the NAACP’s Legal Defense Fund’s legal team of Jack Greenberg and Thurgood Marshall. The famous Mississippi Burning incident where three civil rights workers were lynched in 1964 involved the murder of one black civil rights worker James Earl Chaney and two Jewish civil rights workers, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwermer.
But starting sometime around 1965, the blacks began the process of expelling the Jews from the Civil Rights movement, as they embraced anti-Semitism and the Arab war for the destruction of Israel. In New York City, this period reached a culmination in the 1968 teachers strike. The strike was caused by the decision of a black school board in Brownsville, Brooklyn to fire many of the Jewish teachers and administrators from the local schools and replace them with black separatist teachers and administrators.
The head the teachers union Albert Shanker dated the end of Jewish-black cooperation to the strike.
While researching my book, yesterday I came across a fascinating FBI report from 1970 that was declassified under the Freedom of Information Act in 2009. Titled, “FBI Monograph: Fedayeen Impact – Middle East and United States, June 1970,” it is focused on the PLO, and Fatah’s penetration of the American political Left.
Here’s the link:
http://www.governmentattic.org/2docs/FBI_Monograph_Fedayeen-Impact_1970.pdf
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As the report puts it, “Since the June 1967, war, reports emanating from various sources have suggested that the Arabs have co-opted black extremists in the United States to assist the ‘struggle’ against Israel in the Middle East and in the United States.”
The report makes specific mention of the co-optation of the Black Panther Party, (BPP), the Student National Coordinating Committee, (SNCC), Stokely Carmichael, and the Nation of Islam.
Several BPP leaders participated in anti-Israel conferences in Africa and the Middle East where they gave stridently anti-Semitic speeches calling for the destruction of Israel. In one speech in Algeria in 1969 BPP “Minister of Information” Eldridge Cleaver, “Proclaimed BPP support for the Arab position and criticized ‘US-Zionists,’ mentioning Arthur Goldberg, Henry A. Kissinger, and Judge Julius Hoffman. He also expressed BPP admiration for Yasir Arafat and al-Fatah. Cleaver and Arafat reportedly hugged and kissed each other and received a standing ovation from those at the conference.”
In an interview with the New York Times on August 15, 1967, SNCC leader Ralph Featherston launched an all-out assault against Israel and Jews.
According to the FBI report, in the interview he said that “SNCC is drawn to the Arab cause because it is working toward a ‘third world alliance of oppressed people all over the world – Africa, Asia, Latin America – and considers the Arabs have been oppressed continually by Israelis and by Europeans as well in such countries as Algeria.’ He denied that SNCC was anti-Semitic, but was interested in indicting only ‘Jewish oppressors,’ a category he applied to Israel, and ‘to those Jews in the little Jew shops in the ghettos.’”
[.......]
The Soviet Union openly sided with the Arabs in the Six Day War and cut off relations with Israel immediately following the war. The radical American Left, populated by the Communist Party USA and other Communist front groups and New Left groups abandoned Israel at the same time. This mass abandonment included the Progressive Labor Party; Students for a Democratic Society, (SDS); SDS-Weathermen; the Socialist Workers Party; Workers World Party; and the Communist Party – USA, (CPUSA).
Since President Obama’s political world is populated by individuals from all these groups, and since Obama launched his political career in the living room of SDS-Weathermen terror commanders Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers, it is worth noting that in the SDS-Weathermen magazine “SDS Fire” December 6, 1969 issue, contained an editorial stating that “Arab peoples, above all the Palestinian people, will not and cannot accept the existence of Israel, a colonial-type creature imposed by outside forces on the area.”
A notable exception to the far Left’s abandonment of Israel and embrace of anti-Semitism was Ramparts Magazine, the New Left publication founded by David Horowitz and Peter Collier. Among other pro-Israel Ramparts articles the FBI report cites, it notes in particular one by then Harvard Professor Martin Peretz from July 1967.
In his article, Peretz took on the propaganda claims against Israel one by one and discredited them. Among other things, he said that Israel is not a colonialist state; there is no similarity whatsoever between the US war in Vietnam, which as a self-proclaimed radical he opposed, and Israel; the creation of Israel was not sponsored by imperialist powers; Nasser is not a socialist.
Peretz excoriated the Third World and Communist countries for their failure to recognize the Arab threat to Israel’s existence, calling their behavior “disgusting.”
The FBI report notes that the CPUSA’s support for the Arabs against Israel caused massive dissention in the ranks of the party, mentioning that some 75 percent of CPUSA’s members were Jewish. Jewish Communists in Chicago collected blood and plasma for Israel and donated money. Dissenters were also heard loudly in New York.
The reason I entitled this post “Martin Peretz, an appreciation,” is not for what he wrote in 1967, but because of what has happened to the Left, the Jewish Left and to Peretz in the 46 years that have passed since he wrote that article.
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But in the intervening years, fewer and fewer voices on the Left, and specifically on the Jewish Left were willing to take such positions and pit themselves against their movement. And so as the decades passed, what were the positions of the radical Left in the 1960s became increasingly the positions of the mainstream Left, until by last summer, they became the positions of the majority of delegates at the Democratic National Convention.
When I was growing up in Chicago, the local Jewish establishment’s refusal to support Israel in the 1982 Lebanon War is what made me decide to make aliyah. By the time I arrived at Columbia in 1987, and the Palestinian uprising broke out, it was hard to find Jewish leaders who were willing to stand up for Israel without stuttering.
Today the situation has become simply untenable. [......]
Yet through it all, Martin Peretz has rarely wavered. Despite his attempts to support the Palestinians, he has not allowed his desire to see the Arab conflict with Israel resolved  diminish his support for Israel. He has remained a staunch, loyal defender of Israel. When I was growing up, I relied on his New Republic for its reporting on Israel and the Middle East. Peretz was one of my intellectual heroes.
In recent years, I’ve felt more bemused by than respectful of Peretz. A colleague of mine quipped some years back that Peretz and Allan Dershowitz live in an intellectual universe populated only by Peretz and Dershowitz and they refuse to acknowledge that they are alone. That quip has probably anchored my thinking on both men ever since.
But even if my colleague’s remark was more true than false, reading the FBI report, I decided I should discard its snide diminution of Peretz. The fact is, he has been fighting this fight for nearly fifty years. As a man of the Left, he has fought the fight for Israel and Jewish rights, increasingly alone for nearly fifty years, and has done so despite what must have been enormous personal costs as his comrades all jumped ship, and in many cases, joined the cause of Israel’s enemies.
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Cervantes’s Don Quixote is generally reviled as a fool for his futile battle against windmills. By the same token, Leftists who insist that their movement — which long ago parted company with the ideals it claims to represent, and serves as a warm political home for totalitarian anti-Semites — must  side with good against evil, necessarily call up the image of Don Quixote fighting the forces of nature.
But when you think about it, there is something heroic about keeping up a battle even if it is doomed to fail, simply because it is the right thing to do. So hats off to Peretz for keeping true.
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  1. 1 | January 2, 2013 8:21 am

    I find it hard to respect ?any Man of the Left. Their First Principles are not merely wrong, they are evil. Their whole system is built on theft and he notion that it is right to rob Peter to pay for Paul’s vote. And it gets wordse from there. The reson that totalitarian anti-Semites find a warm home in the Left is that Leftist ideology readily lends itself to such perversions. Leftism is inherently totalitarian. Even the so-caled Anarchists want to bring about a totalitarian State. They just want to eb the ones in charge of it.


  2. mawskrat
    2 | January 2, 2013 8:29 am

    Clowns to the left of me,
    Jokers to the right,

    what’s a man to do?


  3. 3 | January 2, 2013 8:58 am

    mawskrat wrote:

    Clowns to the left of me,
    Jokers to the right,
    what’s a man to do?

    Take careful aim, shoot the leaders (usually in the back of the mob; the guys with the bullhorns and orange vests) first, then start picking off the ones nearest to you. Keep firing until they’re all headed away from you at max warp.


  4. 4 | January 2, 2013 9:00 am

    That Peretz has an impressive list of friends on the Right, yet those on his own side of the ideological divide have cast him asunder, speaks volumes about both sides. The ranks of “principled liberals”, men who hold fundamental philosophical differences while maintaining their status as “men of honor” are more rare than even the seldom-spotted “principled journalist”. We’re all far poorer for the loss of both.


  5. citizen_q
    5 | January 2, 2013 9:32 am

    Sorry for the early O/T, but this is what we are descending into Here in Cuba on the Chesapeake:

    MontCo school suspends 6-year-old for pretend gunshot

    A Montgomery County elementary school student was suspended for a pretend gunshot a week after Adam Lanza killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

    The 6-year-old, who attends Roscoe R. Nix Elementary School in Silver Spring, made a gun with his hands, pointed it at another student and said “pow,”
    according to Robin Ficker, the boy’s attorney. He was given a one-day suspension, with a conference on the matter planned for Jan. 2, the day students return to school from winter break.

    We don’t have kids. I don’t see how I could put up with this kind of crap as a parent. Apparently it is a crime to be a little boy, and a total abdication on the school’s part for exorcising any sort of reasonable discipline.


  6. 6 | January 2, 2013 9:35 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Ah, The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of Maryland…

    Ever think of moving to the south side of the Potomac?


  7. citizen_q
    8 | January 2, 2013 9:40 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Since, the Potmac runs north and south, that would put us in the Bay? / :-)

    Yes, we have talked about moving back to Texas. Met my wife in Dallas. Right now though, jobs, family, and her friends are here. That is a lot of inertia to overcome.


  8. Da_Beerfreak
    9 | January 2, 2013 9:43 am

    @ citizen_q:
    Virginia is a lot closer…


  9. 10 | January 2, 2013 9:50 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Overall, the Potomac (lower) runs WNW to ESE, from Harper’s Ferry (where the upper Potomac is joined by the Shenandoah) to the Chesapeake. Zigs and zags somewhat, but that’s the overall picture.


  10. citizen_q
    11 | January 2, 2013 9:54 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    True but the wife’s job is in Annapolis, and they will only let her telecommute a couple days week. As it is now her commute in is about an hour and 15 minutes one way. Also her friends are local where we are living now.

    VA would be better for me professionally, most of the jobs in my field in the area are located in No. VA, if I needed to look again. I could move to No. VA without impact to my current job. We had talked about No. VA when we were shopping for a new home about 3 years ago. The wife was pretty firm about staying in this same area.


  11. huckfunn
    12 | January 2, 2013 9:56 am

    The religion of rape.
    Cleric Issues Fatwa Allowing Gang Rape of Syrian Women

    A Saudi Arabian imam, who is a very influential cleric in jihadist circles, has issued a fatwa (religious edict) that essentially allows all jihadists fighting in Syria to rape women.

    Muhammed al-Arifi, a Wahhabi religious cleric, officially calls this act an “intercourse marriage” that can last only a few hours – “in order to give each fighter a turn” — and restricts the men to Syrian females at least 14 years old, widowed or divorced.

    Al-Arifi, expressed his annoyance at the “warriors of Islam” being denied sexual pleasures while fighting in Syria “alongside the armed opposition forces” for the past two years. He said this fatwa “solves [their] sexual problems” and “boosts the determination of the mujahideen in Syria and is considered a duty to enter paradise for those females who enter such marriages.”


  12. citizen_q
    13 | January 2, 2013 9:56 am

    @ Mike C.:
    LOL! Please pardon me for taking the opportunity to joke a bit. I grew-up in Southern MD, and pretty much from DC on down, it’s close enough to North South, that is how I think of it.


  13. 14 | January 2, 2013 9:59 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Gotta keep the wife happy -- first things first, after all. But I mourn for those stuck across the border in TPDRoMD. Not to mention that puts you WAY too to close the the Third World hellhole that is Baltimore.


  14. Da_Beerfreak
    15 | January 2, 2013 10:00 am

    @ citizen_q:
    I know what you mean about the commute. I use to live inside the ‘beltway’ near Baileys Crossroads and worked in Springfield.


  15. 16 | January 2, 2013 10:00 am

    Er, make that “too close to”…


  16. 17 | January 2, 2013 10:03 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I remember when pretty much the only thing at Baileys Crossroads (that’s the intersection of Glebe Road and Route 7 for the unitiated) was the pony ring.


  17. citizen_q
    18 | January 2, 2013 10:07 am

    huckfunn wrote:

    Muhammed al-Arifi, a Wahhabi religious cleric, officially calls this act an “intercourse marriage” that can last only a few hours – “in order to give each fighter a turn” — and restricts the men to Syrian females at least 14 years old, widowed or divorced.

    I appreciate how they throw in a few rules from how mo-ham-head acted to try and put some kind strange sick veneer of holiness to their savagery.

    Note that widows are fair game. I.E. murder the husband and you are all right with allah.


  18. citizen_q
    19 | January 2, 2013 10:10 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Thank G-d, I am reasonably far from Baltimore.

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    @ Mike C.:
    The commute in the area has only gotten worse.


  19. huckfunn
    20 | January 2, 2013 10:14 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    I appreciate how they throw in a few rules from how mo-ham-head acted to try and put some kind strange sick veneer of holiness to their savagery.

    Note that widows are fair game. I.E. murder the husband and you are all right with allah.

    Notice the deafening silence from the “moderate” muzz world.


  20. Da_Beerfreak
    21 | January 2, 2013 10:15 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I remember when pretty much the only thing at Baileys Crossroads (that’s the intersection of Glebe Road and Route 7 for the unitiated) was the pony ring.

    Are you sure you’re not mixing up Glebe Road with Columbia Pike??


  21. 22 | January 2, 2013 10:17 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I stand corrected. It’s been 50 years since I lived in that area.


  22. Speranza
    23 | January 2, 2013 10:24 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    That Peretz has an impressive list of friends on the Right, yet those on his own side of the ideological divide have cast him asunder, speaks volumes about both sides. The ranks of “principled liberals”, men who hold fundamental philosophical differences while maintaining their status as “men of honor” are more rare than even the seldom-spotted “principled journalist”. We’re all far poorer for the loss of both.

    There are fewer and fewer principled men on the Left.


  23. Speranza
    24 | January 2, 2013 10:25 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    Ah, The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of Maryland…
    Ever think of moving to the south side of the Potomac?

    I heard that Northern Virginia — overrun by liberals and wealthy Washingtonians -- is not much better.


  24. Da_Beerfreak
    25 | January 2, 2013 10:26 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I stand corrected. It’s been 50 years since I lived in that area.

    Its been 20 years for me.
    Still miss the Cherry Blossoms and the Dogwoods. :wink:


  25. Da_Beerfreak
    26 | January 2, 2013 10:29 am

    @ Speranza:
    Being in a blue part of a Red State is still better than being anywhere in a blue state.


  26. 27 | January 2, 2013 10:32 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Being in a blue part of a Red State is still better than being anywhere in a blue state.

    Bingo! You can easily get a CCW permit in VA. Try that in MD.


  27. 28 | January 2, 2013 10:33 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Remember, Nancy Pelosi is from MD. Her dad was mayor of Baltimore, IIRC.


  28. buzzsawmonkey
    29 | January 2, 2013 10:35 am

    Black America retained the inherited antisemitism of 19th century Christianity, which still viewed Jews as “Christ-killers”; to that, it added the 20th-century antisemitism of Leftism and Islamism and anti-colonialism. There are many exceptions, of course—but the point is that they are exceptions. They go against the mainstream of the racism and antisemitism that has been the legacy of the latter-day, post-King Civil Rights Movement.

    The American Left, being now a wholly-owned subsidiary of the black racists who wrested the Civil Rights Movement from Martin Luther King, is antisemitic to the core.


  29. 30 | January 2, 2013 10:35 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Not many cherry blossoms out here, outside of commercial orchards, but we’re up to our asses in dogwoods.


  30. Da_Beerfreak
    31 | January 2, 2013 10:36 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Mike C.:

    Remember, Nancy Pelosi is from MD. Her dad was mayor of Baltimore, IIRC.

    I knew there was a good reason why they called those Folks “Baltimorons”… :twisted:


  31. buzzsawmonkey
    32 | January 2, 2013 10:37 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    we’re up to our asses in dogwoods.

    “That’s a dogwood tree.”

    “How can you tell?”

    “By its bark!”


  32. 33 | January 2, 2013 10:38 am

    @ huckfunn:

    This is who the Democrats and Republicans support.


  33. Da_Beerfreak
    34 | January 2, 2013 10:40 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    :grin:


  34. Da_Beerfreak
  35. 36 | January 2, 2013 10:43 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Let him die.


  36. Da_Beerfreak
    37 | January 2, 2013 10:44 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Let him die.

    That goes without saying… :twisted:


  37. buzzsawmonkey
    38 | January 2, 2013 10:45 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez in a coma ‘only kept alive by life support’ after cancer surgery

    Is that the Miracle of Cuban Health Care™ in operation?


  38. Speranza
    39 | January 2, 2013 10:48 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Being in a blue part of a Red State is still better than being anywhere in a blue state.

    Virginia voted for Obama twice in 2008 and 2012. It is a purple state at best. You can look it up as Casey Stengel once said.


  39. buzzsawmonkey
    40 | January 2, 2013 10:52 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Virginia voted for Obama twice in 2008 and 2012.

    Then it should change its name to Flukiana, since it’s already been screwed.


  40. Da_Beerfreak
    41 | January 2, 2013 10:52 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Being in a blue part of a Red State is still better than being anywhere in a blue state.

    Virginia voted for Obama twice in 2008 and 2012. It is a purple state at best. You can look it up as Casey Stengel once said.

    That’s still a lot better than the blue state I’m currently stuck in which has voted for the D’Rats for the last forty years straight.


  41. theoutsider
    42 | January 2, 2013 10:57 am

    Question of the day. Rubio and Ryan. Whose vote will help in the future, and which vote will hurt? I’m curious.


  42. buzzsawmonkey
    43 | January 2, 2013 10:59 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    I’m curious.

    “Curious?” You’re downright weird.


  43. lobo91
    44 | January 2, 2013 11:03 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    theoutsider wrote:

    I’m curious.

    “Curious?” You’re downright weird.

    My New Year’s resolution is to ignore trolls like him.


  44. huckfunn
    45 | January 2, 2013 11:05 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    theoutsider wrote:

    I’m curious.

    “Curious?” You’re downright weird.

    L :lol: L


  45. 46 | January 2, 2013 11:06 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Virginia voted for Obama twice in 2008 and 2012.
    Then it should change its name to Flukiana, since it’s already been screwed.

    Check out our state government. Yours that good?


  46. 47 | January 2, 2013 11:07 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    Question of the day. Rubio and Ryan. Whose vote will help in the future, and which vote will hurt? I’m curious.

    It doesn’t matter at this point.


  47. texasam7
    48 | January 2, 2013 11:08 am

    @ huckfunn:
    Oh, well then, as long as they’re at least 14!
    sarc


  48. 49 | January 2, 2013 11:08 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Your state still voted for Obama. You had Democrat Governors 8 out of the last 12 years.

    I’m in Florida so did we as well.


  49. CynicalConservative
    50 | January 2, 2013 11:09 am

    Oh look, the talking point troll is back.

    /galt


  50. theoutsider
    51 | January 2, 2013 11:17 am

    @ Rodan:
    You’re writing Rubio and Ryan off. That is what I was thinking too.


  51. Speranza
    52 | January 2, 2013 11:22 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    Virginia voted for Obama twice in 2008 and 2012.
    Then it should change its name to Flukiana, since it’s already been screwed.
    Check out our state government. Yours that good?

    Don’t be funny, New York sucks a big stick. However don’t fool your self, any state that votes not once but twice for Obama is something to be wary about. Virginia is purple.


  52. 53 | January 2, 2013 11:23 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    You’re writing Rubio and Ryan off. That is what I was thinking too.

    The Republican party is dysfunctional and the Media-Entertainment Industrial Complex has a dictatorial grip on the nation. I do not see how the GOP in it’s current form wins in 2016.


  53. Speranza
    54 | January 2, 2013 11:23 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    Your state still voted for Obama. You had Democrat Governors 8 out of the last 12 years.
    I’m in Florida so did we as well.

    Thank you!


  54. eaglesoars
    55 | January 2, 2013 11:29 am

    Speranza wrote:

    I heard that Northern Virginia — overrun by liberals and wealthy Washingtonians — is not much better.

    Oh, it’s a
    HELLUVA lot better, believe me. I’ve lived in Silver Spring, Mongtgomery County MD and Bowie, Prince Geo. County MD and I’ve been in Northern Virginia since 1987 (falls church/Bailey’s Cross Road and now Alexandria). It’s true that No Va is the most liberal part of the state -- and the most populous and that’s what makes the state purple -- but this place is LOUSY with military and civilian defense people and THEY ARE NOT LIBERAL. I went to a ‘hen’ party at a neighbor’s last month -- out of 13 women there I was the ONLY ‘civilian’ -- half were military spouses, the other half were active duty, e.g., NCIS intelligence.

    And even our Democrat governors have been relatively moderate. Besides, they are limited to one term. We’ve got to get rid of the ‘open’ primary system tho’.

    And yeah, almost all the commute routes sucketh.


  55. theoutsider
    56 | January 2, 2013 11:31 am

    @ Rodan:
    I think the GOP is really weak now, but come 2016, if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Nominee, Every person on this site is going to enthusiastically back Jeb Bush or Chris Christie. Even Iron Fist.


  56. eaglesoars
    57 | January 2, 2013 11:32 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Check out our state government. Yours that good?

    Yep. Our Attorney General, Ken Cuccinelli is awesome. I’ll be supporting him for Gov. Already sent him some money.


  57. 58 | January 2, 2013 11:33 am

    New thread.


  58. 59 | January 2, 2013 11:33 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    I haven’t been inside the Beltway in a long, long time.


  59. eaglesoars
    60 | January 2, 2013 11:45 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    I haven’t been inside the Beltway in a long, long time.

    I’m a transplanted yinzer, and I really like it here. It’s interesting and it’s fun. And all of Virginia is just beautiful, not to mention the history.


  60. Speranza
    61 | January 2, 2013 1:35 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    We’ve got to get rid of the ‘open’ primary system tho’.

    That should be gotten rid of every where.


  61. Speranza
    62 | January 2, 2013 1:36 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    And all of Virginia is just beautiful, not to mention the history.

    The Old Valley Turnpike.


  62. friendlygrizzly
    63 | January 5, 2013 6:13 am

    @ citizen_q: It IS a crime to be a little boy. This is why the compel, on penalty of your child being kidnapped by Child Protective Services, the force-feeding of amphetamines to little boys who do not sit still and quietly and passively in the classroom.


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