I have an idea,’ ‘to protect our children’ from the incredibly rare school shooting why not arm a teacher or two and train them. AND…move the local police and or sheriffs offices out of town hall and have them set up in the schools. Park the cruisers and unmarkeds in the school lot. It would be hard to figure out if the police were in there or not.
The following article is the headline at Drudge. Read it very carefully. It is full of dirty tricks, psychotic liberal mental processes, and outright lies. I have taken the liberty to bold some of the more ridiculous examples.
White House weighs broad gun-control agenda in wake of Newtown shootings
The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.
A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.
To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.
The Biden group, formed last month after the massacre at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school that killed 20 children and six adults, plans to submit a package of recommendations to President Obama this month. Once Obama’s proposals are set, he plans to lead a public-relations offensive to generate popular support.
“They are very clearly committed to looking at this issue comprehensively,” said Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, who has been involved in the discussions. The proposals under consideration, he added, are “a deeper exploration than just the assault-weapons ban.”
The gun-control push is just one part of an ambitious political agenda that Obama has pledged to pursue after his decisive reelection victory in November, including comprehensive immigration reform, climate-change legislation and long-term deficit reduction. Obama also faces a reshuffling of his Cabinet, and a looming debate over the nation’s debt ceiling that will compete for his time and attention in the coming months.
Seeking expansive mandate
In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
“Simply coming up with one or two aspects of it really falls short of the magnitude of the gun issue in the country,” said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum.
Wexler was among a dozen law enforcement leaders who met with Biden and other administration leaders in the aftermath of the Dec. 14 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. The Dec. 20 summit, which stretched an hour beyond an allotted one hour, included Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr., Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.
Biden “wanted to talk to us about the assault-weapons ban, automatic weapons, high-capacity magazines,” said Hennepin County (Minn.) Sheriff Richard Stanek, president of the Major County Sheriffs’ Association.
The vice president said the White House group would consider a variety of proposals — from requiring background checks for all gun buyers to creating a new database that would allow the ATF to track all gun sales, according to participants.
Stanek said the meeting also included significant discussion of mental-health issues, violence in video games and movies, and the poor quality of information contained in databases used to conduct criminal background checks before issuing gun permits.
Some of the options the administration is considering may not ultimately be included in Obama’s package. A White House spokesman said Biden’s group was in the midst of its review and has made no decisions on its final recommendations.
The White House is also developing strategies to navigate the rocky and emotionally fraught terrain of gun politics once final policy decisions are made. The administration is quietly talking with a diverse array of interest groups, including religious leaders, mental-health professionals and hunters, to build as broad a coalition as possible, those involved in the discussions said.
The president is expected to face fierce opposition from the NRA and its allies in Congress, including most Republicans and some Democrats.
But Biden signaled to those involved in the policy discussions that the White House is not afraid of taking on the NRA, the nation’s largest gun rights group. At the Dec. 20 meeting, according to Stanek, when one law enforcement leader suggested focusing on only the most popular proposals, Biden responded: “Look, what I’m asking you for is your candid opinion and ideas about extreme gun violence. Leave the politics to the president. That’s our job with Congress.”
NRA officials declined a request for comment. In response to the shooting in Newtown, Wayne LaPierre, the group’s executive vice president, called for installing armed police officers in every school.
“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” LaPierre said at a news conference Dec. 21.
One potential strategy would be to win support for specific measures from interest groups that are normally aligned with the NRA, according to one person who works closely with the administration on gun-related issues and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity.
For instance, this person suggested, Wal-Mart and other major gun retailers may have an incentive to support closing a loophole that allows people to bypass background checks if they purchase firearms at gun shows or through other types of private sales. That could result in more people buying guns in retail stores.
Timing is imperative
Obama’s advisers have calculated that the longer they wait, the more distance there is from the Newtown massacre and the greater the risk that the bipartisan political will to tackle gun violence will dissipate.
“This is not something that I will be putting off,” Obama said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” in an interview broadcast last Sunday.
At the White House meeting, Stanek said, “the vice president indicated that there was a very short timeline for him to get back to the president with his recommendations because the American public has a short memory.” (he is actually very correct here, most of the population has the memory of a squirrel)
Already, three weeks after the Newtown shooting, gun-control advocates are growing impatient with a legislative process that is just beginning.
“As we get involved in these ad nauseam debates over the Second Amendment, our children are still at risk,” said Jon Adler, national president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. “Debating is not the action verb we need to protect our children.”
With the start of the 113th Congress last week, several lawmakers filed bills to address gun violence. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who co-wrote a 1994 assault-weapons ban that expired in 2004, plans to introduce legislation this month that would ban the sale or manufacture of about 120 firearms, including semiautomatic rifles and military-style handguns, as well as ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds.
The expired federal assault-weapons ban prohibited the manufacturing of 19 models of semiautomatic guns classified as assault weapons, including certain rifles and shot guns. The law also banned ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. But it did not ban the sale of previously manufactured assault weapons or high-capacity magazines.
Since the law’s sunset, efforts in Congress over the past decade to reinstate the ban have faced stiff opposition from the NRA and the firearms industry and have never passed.
Adler, who has submitted recommendations to Biden’s group, said he has told administration officials that they need to pursue multiple measures to increase their chances of success.
“We can’t put all our protection-effort eggs in one basket with one piece of legislation,” he said. “We’ve got to do more than that.”
So, will the house have the fortitude to stop this nonsense? Probably not. This is the one red-line issue for me. If a politician cannot trust me to own guns, then i cannot trust him with my vote. I do have a sneaking suspicion that this debate is just a cover to take the heat off of the White House for the failure of the economy, the looming debt ceiling debate, and coming economic hardships as Obamacare and the new taxes kick in (SEE ARTICLE BELOW). He can issue Executive orders at will if he likes. Does the Congress have the guts to refuse to fund the initiatives?
Obama and his crew are acting like they big. They did not. They might have won the election but they did not take back the congress. His is a hollow victory. He lost in the local election. In most Congressional districts, he is a loser. The second term is where most Presidents mess it up and drive their administration into the ground.
Obamacare opponents warned that forcing companies employing 50 or more full-time workers to buy healthcare would prompt employers to slash jobs and worker hours. And that’s exactly what’s happening, says one of President Barack Obama’s favorite economists, Mark Zandi of Moody’s Analytics.
“It will have a negative impact on job creation” this year, says Mr. Zandi.
The Obamacare employer mandate doesn’t go into effect until January 1, 2014, but the government requires businesses to track worker schedules for three to 12 months in advance. That means many employers plan to get a jump start on avoiding Obamacare’s $2,000 per-worker fine by firing workers now, reducing employee hours, or replacing full-time employees with part-time workers.
A survey by the International Franchise Association finds that 31% of franchisees say they plan to cut staff to duck under Obamacare’s 50-employer mandate. And another study by Mercer consulting firm found that half of businesses who don’t presently offer health insurance plan to reduce employee hours to avert triggering Obamacare’s penalties.
As Breitbart News has reported, Pennsylvania Community College of Allegheny County has already slashed the hours of 400 adjunct instructors, support staff, and part-time teachers to sidestep the Obamacare fines. Doing so will save the already cash-strapped college an estimated $6 million. (HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAA!!!!!! GOOD!)
Other Obamacare provisions, like the medical devise excise tax, have forced Stryker medical supply to cut 1,170 positions, despite the fact that the founder of the company’s grandson was among Mr. Obama’s biggest campaign donors. Other medical device makers like Boston Scientific, Dana Holding Corp., Welch Allyn, Medtronic, Kinetic Concepts, and Smith & Nephew have similarly forecast the needs to cut hundreds of jobs each as the result of Obamcare.
The day after Mr. Obama’s reelection, a Las Vegas employer fired 22 of his 114 employees citing Obamacare regulations as the culprit.
Christine Ippolito of Compass Workforce Solutions says companies just under the 50 employee threshold now plan to hold off on hiring to avoid triggering the $2,000-per worker penalty.
Ernie Canadeo, the president of EGC Group advertising agency, agrees. Mr. Canadeo says he had planned to hire 10 workers this year, but may wait so as not to cross the 50-worker mark.
The looming Obamacare layoffs and hiring freezes come as a Labor Department report announced today that the unemployment rate remains at 7.8% (revised up from the originally reported 7.7%). Presently, 22.6 million Americans are either unemployed, underemployed, or marginally attached to the work force.
Girdeth thy loins.
Maybe Republicans will get to the businesses first, educate the American people with a media blitz, and head this off at the pass…
//
Fascism American style. Considering the +300 million firearms already in private hands, it will eventually come to confiscation.
The only silver lining I can see is that end results never turn out how people envision them and there are always unforeseen consequences.
WTH is “high capacity ammunition”?
Our esteemed political class is in fact nothing more than a bunch of smooth talking morons that couldn’t find water even when thrown out of a boat.
How ‘social conservatives’ are fighting the GOP civil war.
It’s been a while since I’ve read a piece that irritated me quite as much as this one did.
ht- AT
@ lobo91:
I was out grocery shopping, so you beat me to it. Kinda leaps off the page, doesn’t it? I think it means that the person doing the writing has no effing idea what he/she is talking about.
And retailers had best be careful going down that crony capitalism road in this instance. And I think a lot of them know it. They could see their sales of firearms and related stuff evaporate overnight. Gun folks tend not to foget and not to forgive…
@ Bumr50:
Serious question:
what alternatives would there have been with a democratic president and a democratic dominated Senate ?
@ Mike C.:
WalMart doesn’t even sell handguns. They do sell rifles and shotguns in most of their stores (but not all).
To say that Obama and his Obamanation Administration are unconstitutional to the point of TREASONOUS would genuinely be an understatement.
In Washington, DC, federal Democrats—goaded by figures in the poli-media calling for the murders of gun owners and politicians that would oppose their “common sense” statism—have pushed for a similar raft of legislation, supporting the criminalization and confiscation of the most common firearms in the United States and various accessories. The Vice President of the United States has signaled to the mayor of Boston (how historically apt) that the White House itself may attempt to circumvent Congress and attempt to outlaw these common firearms with an executive order.
The people have responded to these threats by not merely buying up the firearms, magazines, and ammunition that might be affected by these proposed bans as they did in 1993/94 before the Clinton-era ban was pushed through, but by purchasing nearly every firearm of military utility of the past 100+ years. Ruger 10/22s and other common .22LR rifles have doubled in price when they can be found at all. Inexpensive Mosin-Nagants, originally designed in 1891 and typically found by the dozen in your average neighborhood gun shops, are nowhere to be found, and their ammunition is gone as well. U.S. citizens are preparing for war against their government by the millions. Americans aren’t “going Galt” in response to the push by would-be elites to surging statism. We’re on the cusp of going Häyhä.
http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/01/what-youll-see-in-the-rebellion-a-nation-of-sarajevos/
lobo91 wrote:
I believe that designation begins at .50 BMG.//
poteen wrote:
Another gun they want to ban, despite the fact that none has ever been used in a crime.
.460 Weatherby Magnum is still considered ‘small capacity’./
lobo91 wrote:
There is no telling what kind of idiot laws they will come up with.
I am sure they will get around to a tazer and pepper spray ban, too.
Prebanned wrote:
And after that it will be a rolled up newspaper ban…
@ Guggi:
My disagreement with the author is not over whether or not the House should have passed the “deal,” but how she manages to somehow blame ‘fiscal conservatives,’ associates Chris Christie with the concept, and then seeks to drum them out of the party.
Bumr50 wrote:
could you please elaborate on what is irritating to you?
BofA Freezes Licensed Gun Manufacturer’s Deposits “We Believe You Should Not Be Selling Guns On The Internet”
@ lobo91:
My old friend who died last year? His son found a brand new (unused) 20mm Japanese aircraft gun in his stuff. Worth a fortune-- if he doesn’t get arrested. Also had his WWII service weapon, a folding stock M1 Carbine with a flash suppressor. Illegal in CA. They want to make criminals out of more people. The old man was a criminal according to these clowns. A criminal with 2 Silver Stars and a basket of Purple Hearts.
The 2nd US civil war is inevitable.
@ Kirly:
I’ll repost my comment from over there:
I have to go over to Grandma Santmyer’s and take care of some stuff in a few, but if you’d like to continue the discussion later I’d love to!
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
I foresee a massive lawsuit in BofA’s future.
lobo91 wrote:
right after sandy hook, i started hearing people say that we have got to do something about these automatic weapons. damn cnn kept saying the sandy hook murderer used an automatic. i’m certain there was no mistake in their speech -- no, it was a very deliberate misleading statement. i reminded the idiots i heard saying this that 1) sandy hook was perpetrated with a SEMI-auto only to be told that didn’t matter and 2) we don’t really have a problem with fully automatic weapons being used in crime what with registration being required for decades and the idiot actually said, well, these gangs have them as if any law would change that (if it’s true).
i’m really angry at this whole situation. more than ever before. anyone who shows any inclination to a desire to disarm me of any weapon can go right to hell.
@ Bumr50:
thank you
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
there is nothing on their website about this allegation at all.
@ Bumr50:
thanks for clarifying. i just couldn’t figure out what was annoying to you. i just wanted to understand and now i do. there is a bit of a schism between the social and fiscal conservatives but i think your points about christie are correct.
@ Kirly:
The Number One Goal of today’s fifth column treasonous media is to misinform the uninformed and to keep the uninformed…
Kirly wrote:
Whose website??
Omaba & his supporters sold the ludicrous claim that health reform, which includes
adding millions more beneficiaries will drive down costs.
Three health insurers in California have already announced increases at 20%
and above & it is just beginning.
@ Kirly:
I believe in finding ways to work together.
I take that personally. The logical leap there is chasmic.
Also troubling are all of the heads nodding in agreement.
ALSO troubling is the way in which the author makes so much sense right up to that point.
When pushed, I’d be willing to bet that she’d tell me that my beef was merely semantic in nature.
It’s not.
Bumr50 wrote:
While that certainly is Rodan’s principal, I think one be would have to be delusional to call him a an establishment Republican.
I am sure that government health care will be very efficient./
An example of government efficiency occurred several years ago
when I was going through TSA Security with my daughter.
The TSA alertly discovered a tweezers in her carry on & confiscated
it.
She of course purchased a new tweezers in the airport gift shop before
boarding, which is apparently allowed.
RIX wrote:
Probably at a 3000% markup.
Stimulus!
Fear not my Fellow Americans the French are coming to rescue us…
Renowned French economist to join Obama’s team
Stout hemp rope, useless politician, tree. Some assembly required…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
American Spirit Arms
But, the owner does appear to have put it on facebook (don’t have to be logged in to see it).
@ doriangrey:
exactly what i was thinking -- that rodan has been griping for years that we should ignore the social issues, he doesn’t care about them, and so forth. a point i disagree with since i care about America fiscally and socially.
Kirly wrote:
I’m not real handy when it comes to Face Book. I found this article on Free Republic.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
how weird is that? i mean, the french are doing so well financially…NOT. shouldn’t that idiot concentrate on her own pathetic country before inflicting her leftism on us?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
the article YOU linked to, links to facebook in the first line. you don’t have to be handy, just click the link to see the alleged letter from the owner. *IF that is the owners real FB page, then ok.
We are in today’s fiscal mess because of the monies wasted on bloated social programs. One can not be fixed without addressing the problems of the other. They are two sides of the same coin (bloated government) and can not be separated.
Obamanomics.
This is from Twichy, This was predictable.
http://myfox8.com/2013/01/06/ga-mom-shoots-intruder-5-times-saves-children/
lobo91 wrote:
One bullet kills at least six Indians. You used to see it all the time in the movies.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Welcome to the Stout Hemp Rope Party…
EBL wrote:
The liberal rejoinder to this is, if that woman didn’t have the gun then
this guy would not be injured.
He was just trying to redistribute wealth & for his fine efforts, he got shot!
Kirly wrote:
Usually a merchant sends their CC sales gathered for the day out in a batch at the end of a day to a bank for processing. The batch only includes the total purchase price on the CC number and the merchant is charged a percentage fee for each transaction amount. Then, the processing bank sends the collected CC sales to the merchant’s business bank account in a lump sum.
So, something seems off on that FB letter to me.
I don’t know, maybe because he was processing a 500% increase in CC sales in a relatively short time, some type of internal fraud watch was triggered.
@ doriangrey:
If no tree is available how about we drag ‘em behind a bull moose…
(A well feed one to be sure…
)
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Or we just do like liberals, and start naming things that didn’t used to be considered tree’s as tree’s. “That Sir, is a Basketball Hoop Tree, and that over there is a Streetlamp Tree, and that is a AM-PM Sign Tree”…
Kirly wrote:
no, neither he nor i have said ignore social issues.
i believe in free will and that every action has consequences and in the end all these choices are judged by. lets use this example: someone wants an abortion, fine, govt doesnt pay for it, neither should govt pay for the extra human life that comes from the decision not to have an abortion. she who gets an abortion has to face the ramifications of that choice for her whole life and judgement at the end. each choice must have consequences.
i do not need to push my religious beliefs on anyone. nor do i need my beliefs validated by codifying them into law. my priest is my spiritual adviser not my senator.
in this physical life my goal is smaller government, incremented personal liberty, and states rights, in the spiritual world, well that isnt anyone’s business now is it.
coldwarrior wrote:
i have seen and heard rodan say many times that he doesn’t care about social issues. no, i do not have a quote. it’s a common enough occurrence that i won’t bother.
Kirly wrote:
including, right to my face. in person.
Kirly wrote:
No, Rodan hasn’t suggested that we should “Ignore” social issues, just that the fiscal issues should be dealt with first and that the “Social” issues should not be done through legislation.
The pre-game crew & guests on CBS are giving wet kisses to Ray Lewis.
It’s getting creepy.
Kirly wrote:
no, he and i have often stated often that social issues should be up to the states. if NY wants gay marriage, fine. i dont care.
i talk to him daily. so i know his views well enough to know the above sentance as fact so you can stop putting words in our mouths.
@ Kirly:
so instead of getting side tracked by minutia he said she said what do you think of my larger thought:
RIX wrote:
i95 bias in the sporting press. it is rampant.
blogmocracy psa:
peeps…this flu is serious this year.
please wash your hands often, just soap is fine.
we are getting hit hard at our hospital
@ 21 doriangrey: This is also the Bank with an American flag like logo that forbade American Flags on its banking property.
coldwarrior wrote:
Relax dude, I have heard Rodan use those exact words, however, since I was talking to him I was able to clarify what he meant, rather than the, shall we say “animated” words he initially used.
Rodan has a deeply felt suspicion or perhaps phobia of “Dominionists” gaining control of the United States Government and legislating their version of morality on average American citizens.
Personally I am more concerned about Atheists, secular humanists Marxist or Muslims doing that than of Dominionists doing it, but in the end I end up sharing his concern that any religious group could gain that power.
@ coldwarrior:
yeah, after you already get all insulting (stop putting words in our mouths) you want to change the subject. i am not a liar. i’ve heard him say “i don’t care about social issues” more times than i care to remember. i thought it was an incredibly stupid thing to say so it stuck with me and caused me to wonder if i should bother to post here at all every time i heard it. that sort of thing sticks with a person. as does being called, even just if it’s by implication, a liar.
coldwarrior wrote:
They seem not to understand their roles.
They are still canonizing Ray Lewis.
@ doriangrey:
he’s latin…he gets animated.
coldwarrior wrote:
your mouth? you weren’t part of the topic. how about you stop putting words in MY mouth? *I* never brought up any particular social issue but you sure seem hell bent on starting an argument on any one you can dredge up.
at this point, i don’t give a shit about your views on anything.
@ 35 Kirly: I don’t think he is saying ignore the social issues. Just don’t write them into the national platform as an argument for all people. Socon issues are best done on a face to face handshake level where a person can be inspired by personal example. No different than being a personal witness for Christ. They will have much greater impact on society if the interaction occurs at that minute level. It is at the grassroots level where Obama is to be defeated.
Kirly wrote:
i wasnt calling you a liar. i was clarifying what i know to be fact and what you know to be fact. i have newer relevant info on the topic. if that has upset your sensibilities i am sorry.
as for me changing the subject, i wasnt trying to diffuse anything. i dont care if you get pissed off. i am interested in you opinion as a socon on what i typed as the larger thought.
so here it is again:
i believe in free will and that every action has consequences and in the end all these choices are judged by. lets use this example: someone wants an abortion, fine, govt doesnt pay for it, neither should govt pay for the extra human life that comes from the decision not to have an abortion. she who gets an abortion has to face the ramifications of that choice for her whole life and judgement at the end. each choice must have consequences.
i do not need to push my religious beliefs on anyone. nor do i need my beliefs validated by codifying them into law. my priest is my spiritual adviser not my senator.
in this physical life my goal is smaller government, incremented personal liberty, and states rights, in the spiritual world, well that isnt anyone’s business now is it.
Obama is applying Alinsky on a national scale to the NRA. And from I have see of the NRA they are like a Romney Election Deer in the headlights.
The NRA needs to set up a facebook page for every sub issues out there. And one for each gun they approve. Gun owners respond to their gun make and model. Here Sir!
Will they? Too clueless IMO. Too unable to listen to the grassroots. Was Romney’s problem also.
Kirly wrote:
that’s nice.
@ 39 Da_Beerfreak:
I am guessing half the Obama budget is loaned out to supporters as uncollateralized loans. With a wink from Obama that he doesn’t really care if you pay him back or not. The taxbase will bear the burden.
RIX wrote:
it is their job, canonize ray ray.
there is a tremendous bias toward 195 teams in the national press. i have been seeing it for years as the steelers have to play the ravens usually 3 times a year.
@ 50 Kirly: I think you should read that as being about a national codified platform for the GoP. We are all evolving.
It is as coldwarriot states. Which is a good way to work to win.
@ darkwords:
this is going to be quite a test for the nra, and for the gop.
but the veep is right, americans have a real short memory, we might be able to avoid this
In the very first sentence
high-capacity ammunition
gawd these people are stupid
@ coldwarrior:
It’s just hard to see why theyb think that Ray Lewis is a role model.
@ 60 Kirly: I’ve heard him say the same many times. All I can say is that people are not calling you a liar. That is your choice of terms you wish applied to you in this argument. I am saying the context of Rodan’s philosophy should be apparent over time. he does have a concern over social issues. Your job should you choose to accept it is to not be offended by the difference in interpretation and be open to clarification.
Spock, this message will self destruct in 5 seconds should you choose to read it.
coldwarrior wrote:
Meh, indeed he is, but then again we all get “Animated” at times…
David Limbaugh on the Republican surrender to Obama
@ doriangrey:
I looked like the crazy woman in the room laughing at my computer screen at that comment about Rodan.
eaglesoars wrote:
i missed that line completely! i’ll go back and highlight it
@ 63 Kirly: We’ve posted together for years. I can see lately you’re getting uptight about a lot of posts. Take a breather. Relax. Get some football, nature, good food and/or alcohol in. Regroup and refresh and reinvigorate your thought process. We all need to do it. If we can allow The Outsider in here, then there is room for all here. Your view is needed it is just not going to be everyone’s view.
Um, let me think, you’re a %$#* idiot?
What is a transsexual national progressive? And how are they related to Wilsonian castaways?
See Rodan is having an impact on my consciousness.
RIX wrote:
amazing.
i will say tho, i do wish ray ray played for the steelers.
darkwords wrote:
he is living rent free in you head!
you poor man!
@ 82 coldwarrior: I wish to think Carolina Girl in advance for the Seahawk win today. I think she either shuns the spotlight or is busy prognosticating in Vegas today.
coldwarrior wrote:
I never thought I’d see a more aggressive LB than Lawrence Taylor, but Lewis is and then some…he’s right up there with the very all time elites
darkwords wrote:
ummmm…i was supposed to have a playoff thread ready to go and well, i kinda dropped the ball…
@ heysoos:
ray ray stated that he always watches footage of jack ham and tries to model his play/tackling after him. this is high praise
Calo wrote:
Really… Are you suggesting that your seven cats have never seen you cackling like that before…
coldwarrior wrote:
Dropped the ball, or dropped back to the 20 and punted? Or just plain fumbled? Inquiring minds want to know…
coldwarrior wrote:
Ham, Lambert, Butkus, Nitschke and a few others were all super aggressive
doriangrey wrote:
lost the ball and cant find it is more accurate!
N@ heysoos:
Those guys would be penalized and fined out of the league today. Except maybe Ham.
heysoos wrote:
the thing with ham is that he looked aggressive, he want. he was so smart and could read the offense so well that he was always in on the play. his tackling was the closest thing to perfect one could hope for.
coldwarrior wrote:
Penn States finest…maybe
@ heysoos:
linebacker U
heysoos wrote:
yeah…i would go with that
coldwarrior wrote:
there they are…Sean Lee and Dan Conner are both with the Cowboys, both out for the year earlier…but yowza what a young tanderm they make…I mean like holy shit good…shades of Lambert/Ham I kid you not
@ heysoos:
those two are gonna be great
I just don’t like the guy.
Hey, you want Urlacher?
RIX wrote:
RIX wrote:
Urlacher is a New Mexico boy…a rare thing in the NFL
@ RIX:
It’ll never pass. You couldn’t get a Constitutional Amendment through the Congress right now, to say nothing of getting the requsite states to sign on. The Country is too divided.
@ heysoos:
Urlacher publicly broke bad on the local sports media &
The fans>
Time to move on.
RIX wrote:
I know it…he’s done anyway
I agree. It’s just disturbing that a member of Congress would
submit the bill..
RIX wrote:
?
is he a free agent.
he would do great in a 3-4
@ heysoos:
Urlacher is 35, which is a young man, but not for a middle linebcacker.
Iron Fist wrote:
Does it really mater any more?? Obama will just use its failure to pass as an excuse to ‘deem’ it into law and dare anyone to try and stop him. Mordor on the Potomac is out of control and no one seems to care.
Yup.
coldwarrior wrote:
All I know is that I’m signing up new members daily.
lobo91 wrote:
excellent
coldwarrior wrote:
I don’t think he’s fast enough…I think he’s healthy this season, but he’s also slowed considerably…they’d just run slants against him all day…tight ends are faster than ever now
There are some real idiots in this world and they seem to all have a twitter account.
Calo wrote:
My greatest fear is that the Country has been dumbed down to the point where it can’t survive.
Calo wrote:
What happened to “civil discourse”?
Oh yeah, the dems won, those things don’t matter anymore unless a Republican or Coservative makes an inflammatory statement.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
without the gubermit running everything? Bingo!
@ lobo91:
Obama will us this as an excuse to bypass the ‘do nothing congress’ and release a mountain of E.O.s to screw us over.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Probably.
Off to the range…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
then this might upset you… http://twitchy.com/2013/01/05/rep-jose-serrano-reintroduces-bill-to-repeal-presidential-term-limit/
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
congress can reverse an EO…they just don’t…I think he misused an EO to cover up Fast and Furious and the GOP let it slide
heysoos wrote:
as much as I enjoy aruguing with you, you sure got that one right
@ heysoos:
I meant the SC can block an EO and congress with a supermajority
@ brookly red:
regardless of the difficulty, the point is the GOP rolled over instead attacking that order with vigor…at least speak out
heysoos wrote:
yup, they should have thrown down.
@ AZfederalist:
Apparently, civil discourse is a lost social grace.
brookly red wrote:
Not really. I’ve never been a supporter of term limits. It’s a ban-aid that doesn’t address the real problems of a ignorant electorate.
Politicians must be held accountable by the electorate, not set free to ignore them. Lame Ducks are bad news waiting to happen.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
indeed. I just fear they are testing the water to see just how far we will let them go.
@ brookly red:
The D’Rats always call for the repeal of the 22th Amendment when one of their Boys is sitting in the White House; first time I heard about this movement was when Clinton was prez.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
yes but as you said were even dumber now…
Yea Obama President for Life wouldn’t be a lame duck…..
brookly red wrote:
And getting even more dumber by the day…
RIX wrote:
Well I can remember when there was a great dislike for Ray Lewis. So I don’t think you are alone in your dislike at all. All the love for him today is because he is retiring after this season.
RIX wrote:
Well I can remember when there was a great dislike for Ray Lewis. So I don’t think you are alone in your dislike at all. All the love for him today is because he is retiring after this season.
Iron Fist wrote:
Isn’t that the truth! This country is extremely divided! You said a mouthful there.
@ Lily:
.
That’s it. How are you today?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
This is what puzzles me. Really it does. obama is out of control and no one in D.C. seems to care in the least bit. It amazes me!
Calo wrote:
Yes there it does seem like being an idiot is catchy now doesn’t it? As my oldest son says the United States has a stupid and idiot problem. I have to agree.
@ Lily:
.
The educational system, including universities no longer
teach critical thinking skills.
More yoots are concerned about the gender of Kim & Kanyes
baby than the economy.
@ RIX:
Hanging in there and a bit sore still. If I get too cranky I’ll just sign off! I still have my cranky moments.
How are you do Rix? Hopefully good!
Lily wrote:
I guess if your not part of the solution…
new thread…
RIX wrote:
True. But I am also seeing this in older people too who should know better. I don’t know what their excuse is. Not to mention the propaganda people are getting through their TV’s and no matter how outlandish they get with their propaganda these people believe it! I swear there must be something in the water!
@ Lily:
I’m doing well & I am glad that you are hanging in there.
brookly red wrote:
???????????
What does that mean? I’m not part of the solution? So I guess somehow this is somehow my fault in someway? Really??
{{{LILY}}}
Happy Sunday to you on a glorious afternoon.
@ RIX:
Yeah I doing okay Rix! Could be a lot worse huh? Each week I get better and better.
RIX wrote:
Great story: today I was talking to a woman in the hood who was coming back from doing a part time housekeeping gig for a local college prof. She said “it’s so sad he’s 80 and still has to work to support his 2 worthless sons and their families” and I said he’s still a commie right? and she said “yes you should see he has all the books and everything” so I said yeah too bad he didn’t teach his own kids how to be self reliant, huh?
what goes around comes around.
@ Lily:
Think about it, Obama convinces people that Obama Care will
actually save money. Surprise, costs are already going up.
Fast & Furious? Benghazi? Hey, who cares, they’re watching
Honey Boo Boo.
Lily wrote:
NO NO They in Washington are the problem if they are not resisting they are in on it…
Lily wrote:
Hang in, soon it will all be good.
@ Calo:
Hey {{{Calo}}}!!
/bet you are glad the Texan’s came out of their funk yesterday! Was thinking about you while watching the game! I am still hanging out on the couch and recouping!
@ brookly red:
University types never learn. They are like puppies.
You want them to stop chewing, but they want to chew.
brookly red wrote:
Oh okay…I have to agree with you there! Are there no patriots left? What the hell are they doing in D.C.??? Quivering in fear of obama??? If that is so…why in the hell are they so afraid?? What is getting me pissed off each and every day is no one and I mean no one in D.C. is doing or saying anything about what obama is doing…what the hell is wrong with them?????
RIX wrote:
I know! What the hell is wrong with people??? It amazes me..it really does. Especially the excuses they make for obama over Benghazi! Plus they know so little about Benghazi it is disgusting and when you call them on it you know what they have to say about it? “No one can know what went on.” Oh really?
RIX wrote:
Looking forward to that day! I’ve been sick for so long and not knowing what was going on…even a little extra energy is going to be a great bonus to me! Doc’s said that what was wrong with me didn’t happen over-night..I’ve been sick for a while. Suddenly it makes a lot sense. I also need to get my bones under control too.
@ Lily:
I am confident that you will make a total recovery!
@ Lily:
About Benghazi, people buy the ‘Fog of War” excuse, or we didn’t have assets
available.
Yet they see no contradiction when Obama says that we have assets in the
region to support the Syrian rebels if we choose to.
@ Lily:
@ RIX:
Which is why I may continue to call the Baltimore team the “Ray Lewises” even after the guy retires.
@ brookly red:
and I said he’s still a commie right? and she said “yes you should see he has all the books and everything” so I said yeah too bad he didn’t teach his own kids how to be self reliant, huh?
what goes around comes around.
Apparently the tenured prof didn’t read the right books. I always noticed the most adamant socialists tend to be the privileged children of money. che guevara comes to mind. I know a few in the US and Europe. The lowly public school teacher in Dublin, who lives in the most posh district and inherited his fathers wealth. Hypocrites.