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Today in History Open Thread

by coldwarrior ( 178 Comments › )
Filed under History, Open thread at January 6th, 2013 - 3:29 pm

In 1838, Samuel Morse and Alfred Vail gave the first successful public demonstration of their telegraph, in Morristown, N.J.

 

and now we have the internet. Pretty good progress.

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  1. heysoos
    1 | January 6, 2013 3:32 pm

    stupid American innovators and capitalists


  2. brookly red
    2 | January 6, 2013 3:48 pm

    Jersey gave us the telegraph, the telephone, the electric light, baseball & cement shoes just to name a few, but at the end of the day it’s still Jersey… bad karma I guess.


  3. heysoos
    3 | January 6, 2013 3:52 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Jersey gave us the telegraph, the telephone, the electric light, baseball & cement shoes just to name a few, but at the end of the day it’s still Jersey… bad karma I guess.

    it’s a great location for pro football…if those teams are from Yew Nork City


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | January 6, 2013 3:56 pm

    i like south jersey, go out there all the time to go fishing


  5. brookly red
    5 | January 6, 2013 3:58 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i like south jersey, go out there all the time to go fishing

    South Jersey is OK, from a New Yorkers point of view it’s where NYC ends and America starts ;)


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | January 6, 2013 4:04 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i like south jersey, go out there all the time to go fishing

    South Jersey is OK, from a New Yorkers point of view it’s where NYC ends and America starts

    sure. i look at north jersey the other way around.

    ;)


  7. heysoos
    7 | January 6, 2013 4:10 pm

    my favorite view of New Jersey is out my rear view mirror


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | January 6, 2013 4:12 pm

    a sane democrat?

    Newly elected Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota said on ABC News’ “This Week” today that the gun-control proposals under consideration in the Obama White House are “way in extreme” and are “not going to pass” in Congress.

    true…but about these executive orders


  9. coldwarrior
    9 | January 6, 2013 4:13 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    my favorite view of New Jersey is out my rear view mirror

    south jersey is quite nice, rural, conservative. and crabs and clams are dirt cheap.


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | January 6, 2013 4:14 pm

    looks like the ray lewis’s have defeated the colts.


  11. 11 | January 6, 2013 4:14 pm

    I have a feeling South Jersey feels as unrepresented in Trenton as most of America feels in DC.


  12. heysoos
    12 | January 6, 2013 4:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    looks like the ray lewis’s have defeated the colts.

    as Buzz would say…Andrew’s luck has run out


  13. brookly red
    13 | January 6, 2013 4:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    my favorite view of New Jersey is out my rear view mirror

    south jersey is quite nice, rural, conservative. and crabs and clams are dirt cheap.

    well as we say in Brooklyn avoid Jersey clams unless you want to catch crabs ;)

    no seriously, cherrystones, and blueclaws up the wazoo and blue point oysters too? good eats.


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | January 6, 2013 4:21 pm

    @ heysoos:

    ahhhh….


  15. RIX
    15 | January 6, 2013 4:21 pm

    I am surprised that Washington got across the Delaware alright.
    he had to get through Camden when he landed!


  16. brookly red
    16 | January 6, 2013 4:21 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    I have a feeling South Jersey feels as unrepresented in Trenton as most of America feels in DC.

    /why just because their tax dollars get spent on failing schools in Newark? sheesh.


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | January 6, 2013 4:22 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    I have a feeling South Jersey feels as unrepresented in Trenton as most of America feels in DC.

    jersey by county went the way many other places went, obama for president and republican for congress.

    just plain weird


  18. brookly red
    18 | January 6, 2013 4:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I am surprised that Washington got across the Delaware alright.
    he had to get through Camden when he landed!

    it’s OK he brought enough guns…


  19. RIX
    19 | January 6, 2013 4:25 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    I am surprised that Washington got across the Delaware alright.
    he had to get through Camden when he landed!

    it’s OK he brought enough guns…

    He needed them. After Camden, defeating the Hessians was a piece of cake.


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | January 6, 2013 4:26 pm

    @ brookly red:

    bivalve and shell pile new jersey.

    all the clams/oysters you can eat. there is a bar practically on the clam processing plant’s property. good eats and cold beer and no tourists.


  21. coldwarrior
    21 | January 6, 2013 4:28 pm

    @ brookly red:
    @ RIX:

    my idiot gps got dumped me into camden on a friday night at 2am. we were trying to get to my inlaws house in south jersy.


  22. brookly red
    22 | January 6, 2013 4:29 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    I have a feeling South Jersey feels as unrepresented in Trenton as most of America feels in DC.

    jersey by county went the way many other places went, obama for president and republican for congress.

    just plain weird

    not really… the big cities have the numbers. There are more welfare recipeiants in Newark alone than there are voters in Cape May, Ataltic, Ocean & Monmounth, counties combined.


  23. heysoos
    23 | January 6, 2013 4:35 pm

    @ brookly red:
    is that for real?


  24. brookly red
    24 | January 6, 2013 4:39 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    is that for real?

    yes, but you have to first look up the welfare stats in Newark and then look up the voting population of each county and do the math so don’t ask for a link.


  25. RIX
    25 | January 6, 2013 4:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    @ RIX:

    my idiot gps got dumped me into camden on a friday night at 2am. we were trying to get to my inlaws house in south jersy.

    Coming back from the Shore one Summer night, not knowing the area I pulled
    off in Camden to pick up bottle of wine for dinner.
    The yoots in the lot parking lot were acting like they wanted to kill us.
    i told my wife & daughter to get their heads down & I floored that sucker.


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | January 6, 2013 4:43 pm

    @ RIX:

    i blew through a red light right in front of a cop while excaping back to the highway. he didnt even bat an eye. two krakaz in a miata!


  27. brookly red
    27 | January 6, 2013 4:45 pm

    RIX wrote:

    The yoots in the lot parking lot were acting like they wanted to kill us.

    don’t take it personaly it’s not that they wanted to kill you, they just felt entitled to have what you had


  28. heysoos
    28 | January 6, 2013 4:46 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    is that for real?

    yes, but you have to first look up the welfare stats in Newark and then look up the voting population of each county and do the math so don’t ask for a link.

    I’m not really surprised, it just seems so unbalanced…I have a buddy in Ridgewood, lives on a small lake…he and his wife have to make maximum dollars to keep their home because of these astounding property tax…they are very nervous, one slip and it all goes away….they are republicans and hard working people…he hates Christy and his goons…considers him nothing more than a goon


  29. RIX
    29 | January 6, 2013 4:48 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    The yoots in the lot parking lot were acting like they wanted to kill us.

    don’t take it personaly it’s not that they wanted to kill you, they just felt entitled to have what you had

    Maybe, but the lads seemed a little more hostile than that.
    You know, the summer heat an all.


  30. RIX
    30 | January 6, 2013 4:50 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ RIX:

    i blew through a red light right in front of a cop while excaping back to the highway. he didnt even bat an eye. two krakaz in a miata!

    You were bookin for the Dolly Madison Bridge, right?


  31. coldwarrior
    31 | January 6, 2013 4:50 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    he and his wife have to make maximum dollars to keep their home because of these astounding property tax

    the property taxes are insane, so are the gun laws. that’s why the wife and i dont live in south jersey. which i a shame.


  32. coldwarrior
    32 | January 6, 2013 4:51 pm

    RIX wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ RIX:
    i blew through a red light right in front of a cop while excaping back to the highway. he didnt even bat an eye. two krakaz in a miata!
    You were bookin for the Dolly Madison Bridge, right?

    i was heading south and needed rt 55 asap!


  33. brookly red
    33 | January 6, 2013 4:52 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    is that for real?

    yes, but you have to first look up the welfare stats in Newark and then look up the voting population of each county and do the math so don’t ask for a link.

    I’m not really surprised, it just seems so unbalanced…I have a buddy in Ridgewood, lives on a small lake…he and his wife have to make maximum dollars to keep their home because of these astounding property tax…they are very nervous, one slip and it all goes away….they are republicans and hard working people…he hates Christy and his goons…considers him nothing more than a goon

    just do the math… for example there are some 15 million people in NY state, 7.5 million in NYC 1.8 million of which are on the dole. How many counties in upstate NY do they out number?


  34. brookly red
    34 | January 6, 2013 4:54 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Maybe, but the lads seemed a little more hostile than that.
    You know, the summer heat an all.

    you had women with you didn’t you? not that I condone it, but you can see why the muzz does the burka thing now, yes?


  35. RIX
    35 | January 6, 2013 4:56 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Maybe, but the lads seemed a little more hostile than that.
    You know, the summer heat an all.

    you had women with you didn’t you? not that I condone it, but you can see why the muzz does the burka thing now, yes?

    I had my blond wife & blond daughter. Burkas would have been good
    or an Uzi.


  36. Da_Beerfreak
    36 | January 6, 2013 4:56 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    7.5 million in NYC

    Out numbers all of the State of Minnesota by about 2 million!! :shock:


  37. RIX
    37 | January 6, 2013 4:57 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I hear ya. If I had four flat tires, I would have rode the rims.


  38. heysoos
    38 | January 6, 2013 4:59 pm

    my wife and I had been partying at Fitzgeralds, outside Chicago a bit….flat out of gas (stupid) I absolutely had to stop next to the freeway…late, and no options…I pulled up to a station where there was 4-5 thugs standing around looking for victims, bangers…pay first…so I left the car and made a motion under my left arm and unzipped my jacket about half way, sorta holding on to the left side…I walked up to the biggest, blackest guy and said, do you plan on killing me, raping my wife and stealing my car?…he just stared at me and said he hadn’t decided…I said nothing but didn’t back down…he says I need a smoke, you got one?…I said I do but I’m not gonna give him one and walked into the store, bought some gas, a pack of smokes, and a twelve pack of beer and walked out…I set the beer down, tossed the guy the smokes, chatted for a quick minute, pumped my gas a drove away….my heart was pounding the whole time but I figured money talks….cheap at twice the price


  39. coldwarrior
    39 | January 6, 2013 4:59 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I had my blond wife & blond daughter. Burkas would have been good
    or an Uzi.

    i had a browning high power stashed under the seat


  40. brookly red
    40 | January 6, 2013 5:01 pm

    RIX wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Maybe, but the lads seemed a little more hostile than that.
    You know, the summer heat an all.

    you had women with you didn’t you? not that I condone it, but you can see why the muzz does the burka thing now, yes?

    I had my blond wife & blond daughter. Burkas would have been good
    or an Uzi.

    again not that I condone it but the world is what it is. Like the muzz thing about un-escorted women… seems backward by our standards but it is a hard undeniable fact of life in the jungel.


  41. brookly red
    41 | January 6, 2013 5:03 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    7.5 million in NYC

    Out numbers all of the State of Minnesota by about 2 million!!

    now think the US as a whole 315 million… 20 million undocumented? hell yes a big fuckin deal.


  42. RIX
    42 | January 6, 2013 5:04 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    I had my blond wife & blond daughter. Burkas would have been good
    or an Uzi.

    i had a browning high power stashed under the seat

    I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.


  43. heysoos
    43 | January 6, 2013 5:05 pm

    for any music, club heads in the Chicago area, I highly recommend this place for a good time…
    http://www.fitzgeraldsnightclub.com/


  44. brookly red
    44 | January 6, 2013 5:05 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    I had my blond wife & blond daughter. Burkas would have been good
    or an Uzi.

    i had a browning high power stashed under the seat

    in NJ using it would be a premeditated hate crime… how dare you?


  45. RIX
    45 | January 6, 2013 5:05 pm

    @ brookly red:
    I know what you’re saying,


  46. RIX
    46 | January 6, 2013 5:07 pm

    RG III is playing great. Liberal heads will explode, he is “suspected”
    of being a Republican.


  47. heysoos
    47 | January 6, 2013 5:10 pm

    RIX wrote:

    RG III is playing great. Liberal heads will explode, he is “suspected”
    of being a Republican.

    RG3 is the real deal, not some rookie bauble or trinket…this kid understands pro football


  48. brookly red
    48 | January 6, 2013 5:10 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.

    now show some proper respect for the guy who has to walk these streets un-armed… OK, like that. I get so tired of posters talking bout their guns.


  49. coldwarrior
    49 | January 6, 2013 5:11 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    RG III is playing great. Liberal heads will explode, he is “suspected”
    of being a Republican.

    RG3 is the real deal, not some rookie bauble or trinket…this kid understands pro football

    the sooner he can not run so much the better. this league chews up running qb’s


  50. coldwarrior
    50 | January 6, 2013 5:15 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.
    now show some proper respect for the guy who has to walk these streets un-armed… OK, like that. I get so tired of posters talking bout their guns.

    see, this i dont understand. most every major city in america you are allowed to carry? why not in nyc?


  51. heysoos
    51 | January 6, 2013 5:17 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    RG III is playing great. Liberal heads will explode, he is “suspected”
    of being a Republican.
    RG3 is the real deal, not some rookie bauble or trinket…this kid understands pro football

    the sooner he can not run so much the better. this league chews up running qb’s

    yeah, he’ll be coached out of those impulses, but he knows how to run, doesn’t present much of a target, and moves the chains..plus they have this Morris kid…I watched him twice against the Cowboys and he does not make many mistakes…a very formidable opponent…he throws a perfect tight spiral, hits his receivers in stride, can throw into a double team, he’s very precise…reminds me of Steve Young a bit…he’s a nightmare for the NFC East


  52. brookly red
    52 | January 6, 2013 5:20 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.
    now show some proper respect for the guy who has to walk these streets un-armed… OK, like that. I get so tired of posters talking bout their guns.

    see, this i dont understand. most every major city in america you are allowed to carry? why not in nyc?

    liberal racism… we have a lot of minorities. liberals don’t want black people to have children, you better beleive they don’t want them to have guns.


  53. huckfunn
    53 | January 6, 2013 5:26 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    liberal racism… we have a lot of minorities. liberals don’t want black people to have children, you better beleive they don’t want them to have guns.

    The trouble is, all the wrong ones have guns. I remember when Bernie Goetz shot those punks on the subway. He was a big time hero. It was like Bronson in the Death Wish movies. Too bad that the NY voters didn’t rise up in their righteous anger and demand the right to carry while Goetz was still a hot topic.


  54. coldwarrior
    54 | January 6, 2013 5:31 pm

    i’m starting to believe what one of german friends used to say about berlin:

    cement makes humans crazy


  55. Mars
    55 | January 6, 2013 5:32 pm

    Hey all, fun week for me. Just got out of the VA hospital after a week.


  56. heysoos
    56 | January 6, 2013 5:37 pm

    liberals create this vast entitlement class, by helping to ruin black families,single black mothers raising kids with no cultural fathers..and these punks, animals really, invade white America and wreak havoc on anybody near them, slaughter and pillage…what do liberals do?….blame white people and legal gun ownership…liberals are the problem, not the gangbangers


  57. lobo91
    57 | January 6, 2013 5:37 pm

    I just heard on TV that there were people waiting in line at 6:30 to get into a gun show in Ashville, NC that opened at 9.


  58. 58 | January 6, 2013 5:38 pm

    My how the times they are a changing, Pravda is making perfect sense. Never say never -- I’ve outlived “never” a coupe of times now.


  59. 59 | January 6, 2013 5:39 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Hey all, fun week for me. Just got out of the VA hospital after a week.

    Sorry to hear that, what’s the trubba?


  60. heysoos
    60 | January 6, 2013 5:39 pm

    I get the feeling that the Redskins are going to blow past the Seahawks like they are standing still


  61. coldwarrior
    61 | January 6, 2013 5:40 pm

    As our national debt continues to soar, taxes to rise, and the overall economy to tank, President Obama is talking about…gun control.

    He is doing this so he can seize on the emotions of those who operate emotionally rather than rationally, thereby diverting their attention from the real crisis our nation faces right now — which is financial in nature.

    We are still headed toward the fiscal cliff we narrowly missed days ago: our rendezvous with it was only pushed back a few months. Yet the focus coming out of the White House is on ending gun shows, making 30 round magazines harder to get, and adding a greater psychological component to background checks.

    Never mind that these things will neither stop or even delay another Sandy Hook from happening — they are not meant to. Rather, they are meant to take our eyes off the ball and redirect all emotion to a red herring so that the real fight--a fight to rein in spending, cut taxes, reduce our debt, and stabilize our economy--is not even talked about.


  62. Dolphin
    62 | January 6, 2013 5:41 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Hey, thought of you when I read this:

    Texas Gun Training Class for School Teachers Sells Out, Over 400 Teachers Attend


  63. eaglesoars
    63 | January 6, 2013 5:41 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Hey all, fun week for me. Just got out of the VA hospital after a week.

    wassup?

    lobo91 wrote:

    I just heard on TV that there were people waiting in line at 6:30 to get into a gun show in Ashville, NC that opened at 9.

    Did you see that their city council is trying to ban all gun shows? Fox had some video of the public meeting and man! Look up the word ‘contentious’ in the dictionary………………


  64. heysoos
    64 | January 6, 2013 5:41 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    and the GOP response?
    zero


  65. lobo91
    65 | January 6, 2013 5:43 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Not that gun shows have had a thing to do with any of these mass shootings…


  66. yenta-fada
    66 | January 6, 2013 5:44 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    {{eaglesoars}}


  67. yenta-fada
    67 | January 6, 2013 5:44 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey!


  68. heysoos
    68 | January 6, 2013 5:46 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    Not that gun shows have had a thing to do with any of these mass shootings…

    kid falls off a pony and breaks his neck in Penn, blame the rodeo in New Mexico…same thing


  69. coldwarrior
    69 | January 6, 2013 5:46 pm

    @ brookly red:

    the war on pizza continues


  70. huckfunn
    71 | January 6, 2013 5:48 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i’m starting to believe what one of german friends used to say about berlin:

    cement makes humans crazy

    Makes sense. I’m more of a big sky guy. Looking off my deck in Ruidoso.


  71. yenta-fada
    72 | January 6, 2013 5:48 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    When Governments become BANKS.

    http://coppolacomment.blogspot.fr/2013/01/when-governments-become-banks.html


  72. 73 | January 6, 2013 5:49 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Sweet.


  73. yenta-fada
    74 | January 6, 2013 5:50 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Beautiful from your deck. Huge impressive new mosque from my window. :-(


  74. coldwarrior
    75 | January 6, 2013 5:52 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    nice!


  75. Mars
    76 | January 6, 2013 5:53 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ MacDuff:
    Acute diverticulitis with an abscess. Kind of panicked when the surgeon at the local city clinic immediately wanted to do a bowel resection.

    Fortunately they decided to go with antibiotic therapy. 3 days with no food or water was not fun. Then liquid diet up till the final day.

    (Plus they kept giving me soups I couldn’t even eat due to other restrictions. So I went on a hell of a crash diet.)


  76. coldwarrior
    77 | January 6, 2013 5:53 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Huge impressive new mosque from my window. :-(

    alla’s new snackbar?


  77. yenta-fada
    78 | January 6, 2013 5:53 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    My niece, her husband, and baby, spent 4 days in Boston. Came back and ended up in the Emergency Room in Halifax with Norwalk Virus. Flu season indeed.


  78. coldwarrior
    79 | January 6, 2013 5:53 pm

    @ Mars:

    you and osprey both have the same thing


  79. huckfunn
    80 | January 6, 2013 5:53 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    @ yenta-fada:
    That peak is Sierra Blanca with an elevation of about 14k. It’s a pretty safe bet there’s no mosques in Lincoln County.


  80. brookly red
    81 | January 6, 2013 5:53 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    liberal racism… we have a lot of minorities. liberals don’t want black people to have children, you better beleive they don’t want them to have guns.

    The trouble is, all the wrong ones have guns. I remember when Bernie Goetz shot those punks on the subway. He was a big time hero. It was like Bronson in the Death Wish movies. Too bad that the NY voters didn’t rise up in their righteous anger and demand the right to carry while Goetz was still a hot topic.

    yeah but you gotta be here to uderstand… yes the criminals have guns. but they seldom use them cause the local gentry is so pussified they don’t have to. I personaly don’t worry because I am street wise and the bad guys know it is not worth their time to fuck with me… and at the end of the day no one cares if a yuppy gets robbed.


  81. Mars
    82 | January 6, 2013 5:55 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Mars:
    you and osprey both have the same thing

    Shared misery.


  82. yenta-fada
    83 | January 6, 2013 5:55 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Huge impressive new mosque from my window.

    alla’s new snackbar?

    It’s on our side road to the main city access. We’ll be like rats in a trap on Friday nights.


  83. eaglesoars
    84 | January 6, 2013 5:56 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey!

    You got that right! I told Hubby I’m unavailable for anything from 8 pm thru 11 pm (Once Upon a Time is from 8-9, Downton Abeey is a 2 hr season premier. Molly throws up? Clean it up, don’t bother me)


  84. coldwarrior
    85 | January 6, 2013 5:56 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    My niece, her husband, and baby, spent 4 days in Boston. Came back and ended up in the Emergency Room in Halifax with Norwalk Virus. Flu season indeed.

    that norovirus that is running around is nasty. that isnt the flu tho


  85. waldensianspirit
    86 | January 6, 2013 5:57 pm


  86. huckfunn
    87 | January 6, 2013 5:57 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    nice!

    Thanks. Here’s the mountain cam. Not much snow this year so the skiing’s a bit thin. Doesn’t matter to me as I gave it up about 8 years ago.


  87. yenta-fada
    88 | January 6, 2013 5:59 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    My niece, her husband, and baby, spent 4 days in Boston. Came back and ended up in the Emergency Room in Halifax with Norwalk Virus. Flu season indeed.

    that norovirus that is running around is nasty. that isnt the flu tho

    My niece’s blood pressure dropped seriously and got straight to IV for dehydration. Onset was fast and dangerous. They were supposed to get on an airplane and were too weak. Hubby is, thankfully, a doctor.


  88. eaglesoars
    89 | January 6, 2013 6:00 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Kind of panicked when the surgeon at the local city clinic immediately wanted to do a bowel resection.

    At the LOCAL CLINIC???

    Um, NO.

    does this go toward explaining your history of gastrointestinal distress?


  89. 90 | January 6, 2013 6:01 pm

    I used to live in New Mexico. ruidoso is a great place. One Sunday afternoon I had dinner at the Lincoln Inn in Lincoln, NM. It was great. That was in 1980. I was a punk 22 year old with a hot rod pickup . . . and a .45 under the seat . . you know, in case I saw Billy the Kid.


  90. huckfunn
    91 | January 6, 2013 6:01 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I wonder how many shots of Windsor Canadian those guys had before they went for a dip.


  91. Mars
    92 | January 6, 2013 6:02 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    Kind of panicked when the surgeon at the local city clinic immediately wanted to do a bowel resection.
    At the LOCAL CLINIC???
    Um, NO.
    does this go toward explaining your history of gastrointestinal distress?

    Part of it.
    Actually our local clinic is actually a top rated hospital so I’m not totally clear what happened.


  92. 93 | January 6, 2013 6:02 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Mars:

    you and osprey both have the same thing

    Keepa U Fingers Crossed, folks…I spoke with The Osprey about an hour or so ago. He’s responding well to his IV drip, and he may be able to go home tonight!


  93. yenta-fada
    94 | January 6, 2013 6:02 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I’m pretty sure Hell is very very COLD with snow. /


  94. heysoos
    95 | January 6, 2013 6:03 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    i’m starting to believe what one of german friends used to say about berlin:
    cement makes humans crazy

    Makes sense. I’m more of a big sky guy. Looking off my deck in Ruidoso.

    I’ll be down to see the races this summer, drop a few bucks


  95. yenta-fada
    96 | January 6, 2013 6:03 pm

    Macker wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Mars:

    you and osprey both have the same thing

    Keepa U Fingers Crossed, folks…I spoke with The Osprey about an hour or so ago. He’s responding well to his IV drip, and he may be able to go home tonight!

    Thanks for the update!


  96. Mars
    97 | January 6, 2013 6:03 pm

    My actual terror came when they said I was going to have to go to the VA hospital because I didn’t have any other insurance.

    I was pretty sure they were just going to start cutting, no questions asked. And I was going to be dead, a four hour drive away from all my family.


  97. 98 | January 6, 2013 6:05 pm

    Mars wrote:

    My actual terror came when they said I was going to have to go to the VA hospital because I didn’t have any other insurance.

    I was pretty sure they were just going to start cutting, no questions asked. And I was going to be dead, a four hour drive away from all my family.

    I worked at the VA hospital in Salt Lake from 1983 to 1986. We didn’t kill everybody.


  98. huckfunn
    99 | January 6, 2013 6:06 pm

    @ father_of_10:
    I had breakfast with a couple of friends over in Capitan at a place called Smokey’s. Santa Fe Omelette with a nice cream green chili verde sauce. Mahvalous!


  99. eaglesoars
    100 | January 6, 2013 6:06 pm

    Mars wrote:

    And I was going to be dead, a four hour drive away from all my family.

    Well, as you’re obviously not dead, are you all better? Still on antibiotics?

    gotta get some food -- BRB


  100. heysoos
    101 | January 6, 2013 6:06 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    I used to live in New Mexico. ruidoso is a great place. One Sunday afternoon I had dinner at the Lincoln Inn in Lincoln, NM. It was great. That was in 1980. I was a punk 22 year old with a hot rod pickup . . . and a .45 under the seat . . you know, in case I saw Billy the Kid.

    people still see Billy down here…he’s immortal and a terrific story


  101. RIX
    102 | January 6, 2013 6:07 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    RG III is playing great. Liberal heads will explode, he is “suspected”
    of being a Republican.

    RG3 is the real deal, not some rookie bauble or trinket…this kid understands pro football

    HE IS.


  102. Mars
    103 | January 6, 2013 6:07 pm

    father_of_10 wrote:

    Mars wrote:

    My actual terror came when they said I was going to have to go to the VA hospital because I didn’t have any other insurance.
    I was pretty sure they were just going to start cutting, no questions asked. And I was going to be dead, a four hour drive away from all my family.

    I worked at the VA hospital in Salt Lake from 1983 to 1986. We didn’t kill everybody.

    Lol. True. And the one I went to did have state of the art technology. (Circa 1962)


  103. huckfunn
    104 | January 6, 2013 6:08 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I’ll be down to see the races this summer, drop a few bucks

    Let me know and we’ll get together and tip a frosty one or 2. There’s a good chance this job will last into the summer.


  104. heysoos
    105 | January 6, 2013 6:09 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ father_of_10:
    I had breakfast with a couple of friends over in Capitan at a place called Smokey’s. Santa Fe Omelette with a nice cream green chili verde sauce. Mahvalous!

    Capitan is a cool little oasis…some rough country down there, therefore I love it


  105. RIX
    106 | January 6, 2013 6:09 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.

    now show some proper respect for the guy who has to walk these streets un-armed… OK, like that. I get so tired of posters talking bout their guns.

    Thems some mean streets.


  106. Mars
    107 | January 6, 2013 6:09 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    And I was going to be dead, a four hour drive away from all my family.
    Well, as you’re obviously not dead, are you all better? Still on antibiotics?
    gotta get some food — BRB

    Antibiotics for two more weeks. Sore pain under bottom rib on right side. Muscle pain under stomach.


  107. waldensianspirit
    108 | January 6, 2013 6:12 pm

    So how long can they keep the news Chavez made history?


  108. heysoos
    109 | January 6, 2013 6:14 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I’ll be down to see the races this summer, drop a few bucks
    Let me know and we’ll get together and top a frosty one or 2. There’s a good chance this job will last into the summer.

    sounds good, any reason to go down there…I’m in ABQ but I used to go down to Oliver Lee every year before I lost my leg…now, it’s significantly more difficult to do that stuff…I have not skied, hiked, or camped in almost five years now…but I can drive and I love driving around this state….just amazing


  109. waldensianspirit
    110 | January 6, 2013 6:15 pm


    Dem Senator Heidi Heitkamp Rips Obama’s Reported Gun Control Proposals As “Extreme”…

    Hope Emperor Obama feels time is flying by


  110. huckfunn
    111 | January 6, 2013 6:16 pm

    @ heysoos:
    I didn’t know that you’d lost a leg. How’d that happen? I went to high school with Oliver Lee’s grandson.


  111. 112 | January 6, 2013 6:17 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.
    now show some proper respect for the guy who has to walk these streets un-armed… OK, like that. I get so tired of posters talking bout their guns.

    Oh shut the hell up pussy… :razz:


  112. 113 | January 6, 2013 6:18 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I didn’t know that you’d lost a leg. How’d that happen? I went to high school with Oliver Lee’s grandson.

    He was out drinking with the fellas one night, and when he woke up in the morning he couldn’t remember where he left it… :razz: :shock:


  113. waldensianspirit
    114 | January 6, 2013 6:22 pm

    And there is Pravda again, calling Global Warming a control tool of the West!

    Wow


  114. eaglesoars
    115 | January 6, 2013 6:22 pm

    Representative Matt Salmon (R., Ariz.) had strong words on Face the Nation for gun-control advocates who seems to promise an end to gun violence. “Let’s stop placating the American people and telling them we’re doing something when we’re really doing nothing.” He recalled the congressman from Columbine, Colo. coming into his office and weeping over the tragedy of that shooting, which happened while the assault-weapons ban was in effect


  115. heysoos
    116 | January 6, 2013 6:23 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I didn’t know that you’d lost a leg. How’d that happen? I went to high school with Oliver Lee’s grandson.

    no shit?…he’s quite a story…anyway, I’ve been familiar with NM forever, and when I was divorced in 2004 I decided to move here…ironically for the outdoors…I was here for only four years before I was diagnosed with Peripheral Arteriole Disease, PAD…ten surgeries and a peg leg…I had an unusual amputation, it’s healed very poorly, and I have no flexibility but it’s below the knee rather than above and that’s huge…but sadly, it looks like my climbing and skiing days are over…so I’m sitting in this awesome state and can’t do what I want….talk about frustration


  116. eaglesoars
    117 | January 6, 2013 6:23 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    calling Global Warming a control tool of the West!

    Actually it’s a tool of the Global Marxists so Pravda can shove it


  117. huckfunn
    118 | January 6, 2013 6:25 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.


  118. waldensianspirit
    119 | January 6, 2013 6:25 pm

    The Communist West


  119. yenta-fada
    120 | January 6, 2013 6:29 pm

    Reality bites: Russian ships off the coast of Syria to deter the West.

    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=298541


  120. yenta-fada
    121 | January 6, 2013 6:29 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    The Communist West

    So my #120 is Commie versus Commie? No wonder I’m confused.
    Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey!


  121. heysoos
    122 | January 6, 2013 6:30 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.

    above the knee is very bad news…so far I have a lower leg but not much…sometimes I get so depressed I wonder if above the knee and that whole other matrx might have been better for me…I’m a tweener and it’s not worked out well for me….so far


  122. Mars
    123 | January 6, 2013 6:30 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.

    My dad lost both legs to gangrene from diabetes. He never felt better in his life than he did when both were gone. His blood sugars evened out and he stopped having as many health problems.

    Then in March he just dropped dead of cardiac arrest.


  123. 124 | January 6, 2013 6:30 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.

    The curse of living is, that sooner or later you’re going to die. I’m not without empathy, just trying to not bum heysoos by being overly serious about it. I had a friend who had diabetes, they took him apart piece by piece starting at his feet, after both of his legs had been amputated at his hips he finally got a clot that stroked him out.


  124. yenta-fada
    125 | January 6, 2013 6:31 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    calling Global Warming a control tool of the West!

    Actually it’s a tool of the Global Marxists so Pravda can shove it

    So is that KGB propaganda channel RT. The real problem is The New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, etc.


  125. 126 | January 6, 2013 6:32 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.

    above the knee is very bad news…so far I have a lower leg but not much…sometimes I get so depressed I wonder if above the knee and that whole other matrx might have been better for me…I’m a tweener and it’s not worked out well for me….so far

    I take it you suffer from nerothropy?


  126. heysoos
    127 | January 6, 2013 6:34 pm

    Mars wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.

    My dad lost both legs to gangrene from diabetes. He never felt better in his life than he did when both were gone. His blood sugars evened out and he stopped having as many health problems.
    Then in March he just dropped dead of cardiac arrest.

    I tried to save my leg with multiple bypasses…looking back I should have chopped it sooner, a best of worst scenario…but you sit around thinking, wow, no leg…how does that work?…it’s intimidating


  127. huckfunn
    128 | January 6, 2013 6:35 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I didn’t know that you’d lost a leg. How’d that happen? I went to high school with Oliver Lee’s grandson.

    no shit?…he’s quite a story…anyway, I’ve been familiar with NM forever, and when I was divorced in 2004 I decided to move here…ironically for the outdoors…I was here for only four years before I was diagnosed with Peripheral Arteriole Disease, PAD…ten surgeries and a peg leg…I had an unusual amputation, it’s healed very poorly, and I have no flexibility but it’s below the knee rather than above and that’s huge…but sadly, it looks like my climbing and skiing days are over…so I’m sitting in this awesome state and can’t do what I want….talk about frustration

    Sorry to hear of your troubles. Dad was getting around OK with a peg leg and walker. He was even driving which just drove me crazy. The diabetes finally got his kidneys just before Thanksgiving in 2008.


  128. heysoos
    129 | January 6, 2013 6:41 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    clots…can’t break them up, can’t use any mechanics…it’s not yet fully understood…my diet, health, and general cardiac situation is good, maybe even very good…it’s a circulatory mystery that probably has to do with my arteriol walls…I make clots for no reason I guess…clots kill you…I’m hardly afraid of some govt dork trying to take my guns…I have other issues


  129. 130 | January 6, 2013 6:43 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    huckfunn wrote:
    @ doriangrey:
    My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.
    My dad lost both legs to gangrene from diabetes. He never felt better in his life than he did when both were gone. His blood sugars evened out and he stopped having as many health problems.
    Then in March he just dropped dead of cardiac arrest.

    I tried to save my leg with multiple bypasses…looking back I should have chopped it sooner, a best of worst scenario…but you sit around thinking, wow, no leg…how does that work?…it’s intimidating

    I hear ya. Back in 1988 I was in a car crash that crushed both of my legs. The doctors wanted to amputate them both at the knee’s, it was that bad. Lucky for me there was a brand new surgical procedure called a Hydro-arterial expansion, I was the second person on earth to have the procedure and it saved both of my legs. It was also the single most painful medical procedure that a human being can have that doesn’t kill them.

    2 Thorium 90 spinal taps… thorium 90 radioactive dye shot down your spin in a spinal tap, makes every single nerve in your body think someone just turned an acetylene torch on every single square inch of your body. Not fun at all, but it did work. Sorry your procedures weren’t as successful.


  130. 131 | January 6, 2013 6:44 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    clots…can’t break them up, can’t use any mechanics…it’s not yet fully understood…my diet, health, and general cardiac situation is good, maybe even very good…it’s a circulatory mystery that probably has to do with my arteriol walls…I make clots for no reason I guess…clots kill you…I’m hardly afraid of some govt dork trying to take my guns…I have other issues

    Wow, not sure which is worse…


  131. heysoos
    132 | January 6, 2013 6:46 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    I’m fine, my attitude is good…it’s been a real trip tho…
    I’ve only felt sorry for myself late at night when nobody was watching I hope…once my surgeon called me one tough hombre and I nearly broke out in tears knowing that it was not true…how people perceive these events is not likely to be what really went down


  132. 133 | January 6, 2013 6:48 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    I’m fine, my attitude is good…it’s been a real trip tho…
    I’ve only felt sorry for myself late at night when nobody was watching I hope…once my surgeon called me one tough hombre and I nearly broke out in tears knowing that it was not true…how people perceive these events is not likely to be what really went down

    Dude, despite what you may think, if you are keeping it together at all, then your surgeon is right, you’re one tough hombre..


  133. heysoos
    134 | January 6, 2013 6:53 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    I’m fine, my attitude is good…it’s been a real trip tho…
    I’ve only felt sorry for myself late at night when nobody was watching I hope…once my surgeon called me one tough hombre and I nearly broke out in tears knowing that it was not true…how people perceive these events is not likely to be what really went down

    Dude, despite what you may think, if you are keeping it together at all, then your surgeon is right, you’re one tough hombre..

    I don’t see myself as tough about any of this shit…but I’ll tell you, waking up with no leg is so bizarre and unreal that it just can’t compute with most people…but it’s only a scratch bro


  134. heysoos
    135 | January 6, 2013 6:58 pm

    let me tell you this…Ive lost a lower leg…it’s nothing in comparison to losing an arm, or your sight, or brain function…I’m humbled in comparison


  135. eaglesoars
    136 | January 6, 2013 6:59 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    thorium 90 radioactive dye shot down your spin in a spinal tap, makes every single nerve in your body think someone just turned an acetylene torch on every single square inch of your body

    Aaaand, so much for my appetite…………think I’ll go help Hubby get the tree out of the stand. BBIAB


  136. coldwarrior
    137 | January 6, 2013 7:00 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Reality bites: Russian ships off the coast of Syria to deter the West.
    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=298541

    no. jpost has this seriously wrong, on purpose i am sure.

    these boats are going to evacuate russians and the families, protect the embassy, and probably manage the withdrawal of any russian assets as the muslim brotherhood takes over. fortunately, russia has been very liberal in allowing orthodox syrian orthodox christians to move to russia.


  137. eaglesoars
    138 | January 6, 2013 7:03 pm

    Aach. He’s watching the seahawks/Rdskins game. Seahawks just pulled ahead.

    heysoos, how old were you when this clotting problem showed up? The reason I ask is that our neighbor just had a serious problem with unexplained clots -- she’s 52, doesn’t smoke, drink, etc. She’s flies a lot and that might have something to do with it………..


  138. heysoos
    139 | January 6, 2013 7:04 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    56


  139. eaglesoars
    140 | January 6, 2013 7:05 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    these boats are going to evacuate russians and the families

    Forget where I read it, but many Syrian men attended university in Russia and brought home Russian wives. There’s been quite a bit of cross-cultural pollination. I believe Assad’s British-born wife is in Russia now.


  140. coldwarrior
    141 | January 6, 2013 7:05 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    flies alot…there is item one

    has she had any coagulation studies?


  141. eaglesoars
    142 | January 6, 2013 7:06 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    56

    Thanks. I’m going to mention this to our neighbor.


  142. eaglesoars
    143 | January 6, 2013 7:07 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    has she had any coagulation studies?

    I assume so. It’s about 3 days since we’ve seen her and she’s still pretty tired and we don’t want to dig until she feels better. But she’s off the oxygen and doesn’t need Hubby to take her garbage to the curb for her anymore. Progress but it’s slow. Scared the hell out of everybody.


  143. coldwarrior
    144 | January 6, 2013 7:08 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    these boats are going to evacuate russians and the families
    Forget where I read it, but many Syrian men attended university in Russia and brought home Russian wives. There’s been quite a bit of cross-cultural pollination. I believe Assad’s British-born wife is in Russia now.

    the syrians who married russians are orthodox christians. moscow is trrying to evac as amany of them as they can, think our last days in vietnam style.

    also, rodan tells me there is a serious migration of orthodox out of syria and into latin america like the lebanese did many years ago.

    too bad our shores arent open to them. the local orhtodox churches here are sponsoring 2 families until they get their feet up under them. they are here already.


  144. Alberta Oil Peon
    145 | January 6, 2013 7:08 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Get a good slingshot, some rubber gloves, and by dark of night, lob catsh*t and dogsh*t at the mosque. At least you will have fun.


  145. Calo
    146 | January 6, 2013 7:09 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    she’s off the oxygen

    ?????
    Why the oxygen for a blood clot?


  146. 147 | January 6, 2013 7:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    @ huckfunn:
    I’m fine, my attitude is good…it’s been a real trip tho…
    I’ve only felt sorry for myself late at night when nobody was watching I hope…once my surgeon called me one tough hombre and I nearly broke out in tears knowing that it was not true…how people perceive these events is not likely to be what really went down
    Dude, despite what you may think, if you are keeping it together at all, then your surgeon is right, you’re one tough hombre..

    I don’t see myself as tough about any of this shit…but I’ll tell you, waking up with no leg is so bizarre and unreal that it just can’t compute with most people…but it’s only a scratch bro

    I was born with clubbed feet, I wore casts on both of my legs up to my hips until I was seven years old. I have been in pain because of it my entire life. Some things I don’t understand, some I do. For example, I do not know nor can I comprehend what it means to be pain free.

    My little brother ruptured a couple of disc’s in his back a few years ago. The doctors gave him pain medication, he gave me a couple of them. I took them, and it freaked me out something fierce, because I could literally feel all the places in my body that didn’t hurt. It was such a alien feeling that I gave him back the couple pills that I had left.

    I don’t tell most people that I know that I was born with a birth defect and they never figure it out on their own. I don’t need or want their sympathy, I just want to be treated like anyone else who is “Normal”.


  147. Alberta Oil Peon
    148 | January 6, 2013 7:11 pm

    Macker wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Mars:
    you and osprey both have the same thing

    Keepa U Fingers Crossed, folks…I spoke with The Osprey about an hour or so ago. He’s responding well to his IV drip, and he may be able to go home tonight!

    Crap! Macker, I didn’t know Osprey was ailing. Next time you talk to him, pleas give him my best wishes for speedy recovery.


  148. Alberta Oil Peon
    149 | January 6, 2013 7:16 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Get all the decent folk out, and then nuke the place until nothing bounces but the rubble.


  149. 150 | January 6, 2013 7:19 pm

    Oh dear…. All three of the monsters that invaded my house last night are gone… but Grandma is still watching the Disney Channel… I fear that this might actually indicate that she likes those little monsters… :shock:


  150. eaglesoars
    151 | January 6, 2013 7:20 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    she’s off the oxygen

    ?????
    Why the oxygen for a blood clot?

    One of the clots was in her lung (the other in her leg). For about a week she thought she had a cold and was on anti-biotics. Then at 2 am one morning she couldn’t breathe, she couldn’t move, she couldn’t TALK It took her one solid hour to scoot down the stairs and hit her medical alarm button -- which she installed only because she lives alone. At 3 am Molly heard all the rescue equipment pulling in (we have a shared driveway) and went nuts. We met up with her when they brought her out on the guerney and I really thought she might not make it she looked so bad. She couldn’t speak. One of the good things about the alert system is that they have a list of people to contact in an emergency situation.

    Guess what we got installed the next week (Hubby travels a lot and I’m alone -- with a history of seizures)


  151. Calo
    152 | January 6, 2013 7:30 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    OK, that makes sense. A clot traveled to her lung and she needed some oxygen for a while.

    And, good move on installing one of those alarm buttons if you are alone a lot.


  152. coldwarrior
    153 | January 6, 2013 7:31 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    she’s off the oxygen
    ?????
    Why the oxygen for a blood clot?

    PE?


  153. eaglesoars
    154 | January 6, 2013 7:32 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    too bad our shores arent open to them

    I wonder if we’re taking any Egyptian Copts……….


  154. coldwarrior
    155 | January 6, 2013 7:32 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ coldwarrior:

    shoulda kept reading…


  155. coldwarrior
    156 | January 6, 2013 7:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    too bad our shores arent open to them
    I wonder if we’re taking any Egyptian Copts……….

    nope.


  156. coldwarrior
    157 | January 6, 2013 7:33 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Get all the decent folk out, and then nuke the place until nothing bounces but the rubble.

    amen.


  157. eaglesoars
    158 | January 6, 2013 7:42 pm

    What’s classier than a Marine in dress blues?

    A Marine in dress blues escorting a special needs child to the Cinderella Ball. Semper Fi!


  158. lobo91
    159 | January 6, 2013 8:00 pm

    Wow…today is George and Barbara Bush’s 68th anniversary.


  159. eaglesoars
    160 | January 6, 2013 8:03 pm

    Oh. Crap.

    Even though the 2013 Rand McNally road atlas does not identify any town named Glynco, Ga, this sprawling 1,600 acre campus with its own zip code-31524- is the locus for extensive Department of Homeland Security (DHS) expansion. “Plans are currently under way to build and expand facilities at Glynco to conduct a wide array of programs to support the Homeland Security mission.” Located in the midst of numerous senior citizen and retirement communities, the center is in Golden Isles, “…a series of barrier islands noted for their recreation and retirement living atmospheres” according to the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center description of the area. (1)

    This Training Center is listed on page 1 of a recent, enormous, $1.6 billion DHS ammo buy which included radioactive prevention thyroid pills, radiation proof booths, and those nasty, hollow point bullets outlawed by the Geneva Convention protocols! Georgia Governor Nathan Deal is one of the governing board members of the newly developed Obama administration’s formula for rapid response within the homeland. (2)

    h/t freepers


  160. lobo91
    161 | January 6, 2013 8:05 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Glynco has been the home of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) for decades.

    It’s where the Border Patrol trains, among other things.


  161. eaglesoars
    162 | January 6, 2013 8:11 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    Glynco has been the home of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) for decades.

    It’s where the Border Patrol trains, among other things.

    So, no biggie?


  162. lobo91
    163 | January 6, 2013 8:15 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Probably not. That facility’s needed to expand for years.


  163. eaglesoars
    164 | January 6, 2013 8:17 pm

    @ lobo91:

    thank you.


  164. lobo91
    165 | January 6, 2013 8:25 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    It’s also where the Marshall’s Service trains.


  165. lobo91
    166 | January 6, 2013 8:35 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    This Training Center is listed on page 1 of a recent, enormous, $1.6 billion DHS ammo buy which included radioactive prevention thyroid pills, radiation proof booths, and those nasty, hollow point bullets outlawed by the Geneva Convention protocols!

    Says more about the Geneva Conventions (and the idiot who wrote this crap) than it does about anything else.

    Check the service pistol of virtually any cop in America, and you’ll find that it’s loaded with hollow points.


  166. brookly red
    167 | January 6, 2013 8:39 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Check the service pistol of virtually any cop in America, and you’ll find that it’s loaded with hollow points.

    well yes but that is domestic peacekeeping. you can’t use hollow points, 50. cal or shotguns on the battelfield … or so they say.


  167. lobo91
    168 | January 6, 2013 8:42 pm

    @ brookly red:

    well yes but that is domestic peacekeeping.

    And what’s your point? We’re talking about DHS employees, who are presumably going to be working domestically, which means the Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with them.

    And there’s no prohibition against using shotguns or .50 cal weapons on the battlefield. We use them every day.


  168. brookly red
    169 | January 6, 2013 8:44 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    well yes but that is domestic peacekeeping.

    And what’s your point? We’re talking about DHS employees, who are presumably going to be working domestically, which means the Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with them.

    And there’s no prohibition against using shotguns or .50 cal weapons on the battlefield. We use them every day.

    exactly, the GC is useless. just more feel good words


  169. brookly red
    170 | January 6, 2013 8:47 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    well yes but that is domestic peacekeeping.

    And what’s your point? We’re talking about DHS employees, who are presumably going to be working domestically, which means the Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with them.

    And there’s no prohibition against using shotguns or .50 cal weapons on the battlefield. We use them every day.

    and yes you can’t use 50. cal on people, only equipment (feels good) … but of course a belt buckel can be considered equipment.


  170. lobo91
    171 | January 6, 2013 8:55 pm

    @ brookly red:

    All that crap is the result of lawyers trying to invent rules about things they don’t understand.

    What the treaty actually says is that you’re not allowed to use projectiles that are intended to cause undue suffering.

    Nobody’s going to suffer after being shot with a .50 cal.

    And it seems to me that shooting someone with a modern hollowpoint round that kills them cleanly is going to cause less suffering than if they bleed out slowly after being hit by a 62 grain tungsten-core bullet that punches tiny holes through them.


  171. 172 | January 6, 2013 8:55 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    And don’t forget the pigshit….


  172. eaglesoars
    173 | January 6, 2013 9:03 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    you can’t use hollow points, 50. cal or shotguns on the battelfield

    A Barrett sniper rifle is 50 cal -- and I believe Warthogs (A-10s?)are equipped w/ 50 cal


  173. eaglesoars
    174 | January 6, 2013 9:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Nobody’s going to suffer after being shot with a .50 cal.

    That’s fer shure -- you should see what I did to a school bus…….

    Downton Abbey is on -- bye


  174. lobo91
    175 | January 6, 2013 9:11 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    A-10s carry a 30mm cannon. Way bigger than a .50 cal.

    Half the vehicles the Army owns have .50 cal machine guns mounted on them, though.


  175. Bumr50
    176 | January 6, 2013 9:16 pm

    @ lobo91:

    They usually do the flyovers here for big Steeler games.

    So loud. They’re freakin’ awesome.


  176. Buckeye Abroad
    177 | January 6, 2013 9:17 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Nobody’s going to suffer after being shot with a .50 cal.

    It is against the Geneva Convention to shoot personell with a .50 cal only enemy equipment and machines.

    The US Army has been trained to respond to say, “I was aiming for his LBE.”


  177. lobo91
    178 | January 6, 2013 9:21 pm

    @ Buckeye Abroad:

    I’m not aware of a single person who’s ever been prosecuted for shooting someone with a .50 cal. Happens every day.


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