In 1838, Samuel Morse and Alfred Vail gave the first successful public demonstration of their telegraph, in Morristown, N.J.
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Today in History Open Thread
by coldwarrior ( 178 Comments › )Filed under History, Open thread at January 6th, 2013 - 3:29 pm
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
stupid American innovators and capitalists
Jersey gave us the telegraph, the telephone, the electric light, baseball & cement shoes just to name a few, but at the end of the day it’s still Jersey… bad karma I guess.
brookly red wrote:
it’s a great location for pro football…if those teams are from Yew Nork City
i like south jersey, go out there all the time to go fishing
coldwarrior wrote:
South Jersey is OK, from a New Yorkers point of view it’s where NYC ends and America starts
brookly red wrote:
sure. i look at north jersey the other way around.
my favorite view of New Jersey is out my rear view mirror
a sane democrat?
true…but about these executive orders
heysoos wrote:
south jersey is quite nice, rural, conservative. and crabs and clams are dirt cheap.
looks like the ray lewis’s have defeated the colts.
I have a feeling South Jersey feels as unrepresented in Trenton as most of America feels in DC.
coldwarrior wrote:
as Buzz would say…Andrew’s luck has run out
coldwarrior wrote:
well as we say in Brooklyn avoid Jersey clams unless you want to catch crabs
no seriously, cherrystones, and blueclaws up the wazoo and blue point oysters too? good eats.
@ heysoos:
ahhhh….
I am surprised that Washington got across the Delaware alright.
he had to get through Camden when he landed!
MacDuff wrote:
/why just because their tax dollars get spent on failing schools in Newark? sheesh.
MacDuff wrote:
jersey by county went the way many other places went, obama for president and republican for congress.
just plain weird
RIX wrote:
it’s OK he brought enough guns…
brookly red wrote:
He needed them. After Camden, defeating the Hessians was a piece of cake.
@ brookly red:
bivalve and shell pile new jersey.
all the clams/oysters you can eat. there is a bar practically on the clam processing plant’s property. good eats and cold beer and no tourists.
@ brookly red:
@ RIX:
my idiot gps got dumped me into camden on a friday night at 2am. we were trying to get to my inlaws house in south jersy.
coldwarrior wrote:
not really… the big cities have the numbers. There are more welfare recipeiants in Newark alone than there are voters in Cape May, Ataltic, Ocean & Monmounth, counties combined.
@ brookly red:
is that for real?
heysoos wrote:
yes, but you have to first look up the welfare stats in Newark and then look up the voting population of each county and do the math so don’t ask for a link.
Coming back from the Shore one Summer night, not knowing the area I pulled
off in Camden to pick up bottle of wine for dinner.
The yoots in the lot parking lot were acting like they wanted to kill us.
i told my wife & daughter to get their heads down & I floored that sucker.
@ RIX:
i blew through a red light right in front of a cop while excaping back to the highway. he didnt even bat an eye. two krakaz in a miata!
RIX wrote:
don’t take it personaly it’s not that they wanted to kill you, they just felt entitled to have what you had
brookly red wrote:
I’m not really surprised, it just seems so unbalanced…I have a buddy in Ridgewood, lives on a small lake…he and his wife have to make maximum dollars to keep their home because of these astounding property tax…they are very nervous, one slip and it all goes away….they are republicans and hard working people…he hates Christy and his goons…considers him nothing more than a goon
brookly red wrote:
Maybe, but the lads seemed a little more hostile than that.
You know, the summer heat an all.
heysoos wrote:
the property taxes are insane, so are the gun laws. that’s why the wife and i dont live in south jersey. which i a shame.
RIX wrote:
i was heading south and needed rt 55 asap!
heysoos wrote:
just do the math… for example there are some 15 million people in NY state, 7.5 million in NYC 1.8 million of which are on the dole. How many counties in upstate NY do they out number?
RIX wrote:
you had women with you didn’t you? not that I condone it, but you can see why the muzz does the burka thing now, yes?
brookly red wrote:
I had my blond wife & blond daughter. Burkas would have been good
or an Uzi.
brookly red wrote:
Out numbers all of the State of Minnesota by about 2 million!!
@ coldwarrior:
I hear ya. If I had four flat tires, I would have rode the rims.
my wife and I had been partying at Fitzgeralds, outside Chicago a bit….flat out of gas (stupid) I absolutely had to stop next to the freeway…late, and no options…I pulled up to a station where there was 4-5 thugs standing around looking for victims, bangers…pay first…so I left the car and made a motion under my left arm and unzipped my jacket about half way, sorta holding on to the left side…I walked up to the biggest, blackest guy and said, do you plan on killing me, raping my wife and stealing my car?…he just stared at me and said he hadn’t decided…I said nothing but didn’t back down…he says I need a smoke, you got one?…I said I do but I’m not gonna give him one and walked into the store, bought some gas, a pack of smokes, and a twelve pack of beer and walked out…I set the beer down, tossed the guy the smokes, chatted for a quick minute, pumped my gas a drove away….my heart was pounding the whole time but I figured money talks….cheap at twice the price
RIX wrote:
i had a browning high power stashed under the seat
RIX wrote:
again not that I condone it but the world is what it is. Like the muzz thing about un-escorted women… seems backward by our standards but it is a hard undeniable fact of life in the jungel.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
now think the US as a whole 315 million… 20 million undocumented? hell yes a big fuckin deal.
coldwarrior wrote:
I had nothing but an epiphany that we were in some serious shit.
for any music, club heads in the Chicago area, I highly recommend this place for a good time…
http://www.fitzgeraldsnightclub.com/
coldwarrior wrote:
in NJ using it would be a premeditated hate crime… how dare you?
@ brookly red:
I know what you’re saying,
RG III is playing great. Liberal heads will explode, he is “suspected”
of being a Republican.
RIX wrote:
RG3 is the real deal, not some rookie bauble or trinket…this kid understands pro football
RIX wrote:
now show some proper respect for the guy who has to walk these streets un-armed… OK, like that. I get so tired of posters talking bout their guns.
heysoos wrote:
the sooner he can not run so much the better. this league chews up running qb’s
brookly red wrote:
see, this i dont understand. most every major city in america you are allowed to carry? why not in nyc?
coldwarrior wrote:
yeah, he’ll be coached out of those impulses, but he knows how to run, doesn’t present much of a target, and moves the chains..plus they have this Morris kid…I watched him twice against the Cowboys and he does not make many mistakes…a very formidable opponent…he throws a perfect tight spiral, hits his receivers in stride, can throw into a double team, he’s very precise…reminds me of Steve Young a bit…he’s a nightmare for the NFC East
coldwarrior wrote:
liberal racism… we have a lot of minorities. liberals don’t want black people to have children, you better beleive they don’t want them to have guns.
brookly red wrote:
The trouble is, all the wrong ones have guns. I remember when Bernie Goetz shot those punks on the subway. He was a big time hero. It was like Bronson in the Death Wish movies. Too bad that the NY voters didn’t rise up in their righteous anger and demand the right to carry while Goetz was still a hot topic.
i’m starting to believe what one of german friends used to say about berlin:
cement makes humans crazy
Hey all, fun week for me. Just got out of the VA hospital after a week.
liberals create this vast entitlement class, by helping to ruin black families,single black mothers raising kids with no cultural fathers..and these punks, animals really, invade white America and wreak havoc on anybody near them, slaughter and pillage…what do liberals do?….blame white people and legal gun ownership…liberals are the problem, not the gangbangers
I just heard on TV that there were people waiting in line at 6:30 to get into a gun show in Ashville, NC that opened at 9.
My how the times they are a changing, Pravda is making perfect sense. Never say never -- I’ve outlived “never” a coupe of times now.
Mars wrote:
Sorry to hear that, what’s the trubba?
I get the feeling that the Redskins are going to blow past the Seahawks like they are standing still
@ lobo91:
Hey, thought of you when I read this:
Texas Gun Training Class for School Teachers Sells Out, Over 400 Teachers Attend
Mars wrote:
wassup?
lobo91 wrote:
Did you see that their city council is trying to ban all gun shows? Fox had some video of the public meeting and man! Look up the word ‘contentious’ in the dictionary………………
@ coldwarrior:
and the GOP response?
zero
@ eaglesoars:
Not that gun shows have had a thing to do with any of these mass shootings…
@ eaglesoars:
{{eaglesoars}}
@ yenta-fada:
Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey!
lobo91 wrote:
kid falls off a pony and breaks his neck in Penn, blame the rodeo in New Mexico…same thing
@ brookly red:
the war on pizza continues
@ coldwarrior:
http://www.jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/clip_image0032.jpg
coldwarrior wrote:
Makes sense. I’m more of a big sky guy. Looking off my deck in Ruidoso.
@ coldwarrior:
When Governments become BANKS.
http://coppolacomment.blogspot.fr/2013/01/when-governments-become-banks.html
@ huckfunn:
Sweet.
@ huckfunn:
Beautiful from your deck. Huge impressive new mosque from my window.
@ huckfunn:
nice!
@ eaglesoars:
@ MacDuff:
Acute diverticulitis with an abscess. Kind of panicked when the surgeon at the local city clinic immediately wanted to do a bowel resection.
Fortunately they decided to go with antibiotic therapy. 3 days with no food or water was not fun. Then liquid diet up till the final day.
(Plus they kept giving me soups I couldn’t even eat due to other restrictions. So I went on a hell of a crash diet.)
yenta-fada wrote:
alla’s new snackbar?
@ coldwarrior:
My niece, her husband, and baby, spent 4 days in Boston. Came back and ended up in the Emergency Room in Halifax with Norwalk Virus. Flu season indeed.
@ Mars:
you and osprey both have the same thing
@ MacDuff:
@ yenta-fada:
That peak is Sierra Blanca with an elevation of about 14k. It’s a pretty safe bet there’s no mosques in Lincoln County.
huckfunn wrote:
yeah but you gotta be here to uderstand… yes the criminals have guns. but they seldom use them cause the local gentry is so pussified they don’t have to. I personaly don’t worry because I am street wise and the bad guys know it is not worth their time to fuck with me… and at the end of the day no one cares if a yuppy gets robbed.
coldwarrior wrote:
Shared misery.
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s on our side road to the main city access. We’ll be like rats in a trap on Friday nights.
yenta-fada wrote:
You got that right! I told Hubby I’m unavailable for anything from 8 pm thru 11 pm (Once Upon a Time is from 8-9, Downton Abeey is a 2 hr season premier. Molly throws up? Clean it up, don’t bother me)
yenta-fada wrote:
that norovirus that is running around is nasty. that isnt the flu tho
coldwarrior wrote:
Thanks. Here’s the mountain cam. Not much snow this year so the skiing’s a bit thin. Doesn’t matter to me as I gave it up about 8 years ago.
coldwarrior wrote:
My niece’s blood pressure dropped seriously and got straight to IV for dehydration. Onset was fast and dangerous. They were supposed to get on an airplane and were too weak. Hubby is, thankfully, a doctor.
Mars wrote:
At the LOCAL CLINIC???
Um, NO.
does this go toward explaining your history of gastrointestinal distress?
I used to live in New Mexico. ruidoso is a great place. One Sunday afternoon I had dinner at the Lincoln Inn in Lincoln, NM. It was great. That was in 1980. I was a punk 22 year old with a hot rod pickup . . . and a .45 under the seat . . you know, in case I saw Billy the Kid.
waldensianspirit wrote:
I wonder how many shots of Windsor Canadian those guys had before they went for a dip.
eaglesoars wrote:
Part of it.
Actually our local clinic is actually a top rated hospital so I’m not totally clear what happened.
coldwarrior wrote:
Keepa U Fingers Crossed, folks…I spoke with The Osprey about an hour or so ago. He’s responding well to his IV drip, and he may be able to go home tonight!
waldensianspirit wrote:
I’m pretty sure Hell is very very COLD with snow. /
huckfunn wrote:
I’ll be down to see the races this summer, drop a few bucks
Macker wrote:
Thanks for the update!
My actual terror came when they said I was going to have to go to the VA hospital because I didn’t have any other insurance.
I was pretty sure they were just going to start cutting, no questions asked. And I was going to be dead, a four hour drive away from all my family.
Mars wrote:
I worked at the VA hospital in Salt Lake from 1983 to 1986. We didn’t kill everybody.
@ father_of_10:
I had breakfast with a couple of friends over in Capitan at a place called Smokey’s. Santa Fe Omelette with a nice cream green chili verde sauce. Mahvalous!
Mars wrote:
Well, as you’re obviously not dead, are you all better? Still on antibiotics?
gotta get some food -- BRB
father_of_10 wrote:
people still see Billy down here…he’s immortal and a terrific story
heysoos wrote:
HE IS.
father_of_10 wrote:
Lol. True. And the one I went to did have state of the art technology. (Circa 1962)
heysoos wrote:
Let me know and we’ll get together and tip a frosty one or 2. There’s a good chance this job will last into the summer.
huckfunn wrote:
Capitan is a cool little oasis…some rough country down there, therefore I love it
Thems some mean streets.
eaglesoars wrote:
Antibiotics for two more weeks. Sore pain under bottom rib on right side. Muscle pain under stomach.
So how long can they keep the news Chavez made history?
huckfunn wrote:
sounds good, any reason to go down there…I’m in ABQ but I used to go down to Oliver Lee every year before I lost my leg…now, it’s significantly more difficult to do that stuff…I have not skied, hiked, or camped in almost five years now…but I can drive and I love driving around this state….just amazing
Dem Senator Heidi Heitkamp Rips Obama’s Reported Gun Control Proposals As “Extreme”…
Hope Emperor Obama feels time is flying by
@ heysoos:
I didn’t know that you’d lost a leg. How’d that happen? I went to high school with Oliver Lee’s grandson.
brookly red wrote:
Oh shut the hell up pussy…
huckfunn wrote:
He was out drinking with the fellas one night, and when he woke up in the morning he couldn’t remember where he left it…
And there is Pravda again, calling Global Warming a control tool of the West!
Wow
huckfunn wrote:
no shit?…he’s quite a story…anyway, I’ve been familiar with NM forever, and when I was divorced in 2004 I decided to move here…ironically for the outdoors…I was here for only four years before I was diagnosed with Peripheral Arteriole Disease, PAD…ten surgeries and a peg leg…I had an unusual amputation, it’s healed very poorly, and I have no flexibility but it’s below the knee rather than above and that’s huge…but sadly, it looks like my climbing and skiing days are over…so I’m sitting in this awesome state and can’t do what I want….talk about frustration
waldensianspirit wrote:
Actually it’s a tool of the Global Marxists so Pravda can shove it
@ doriangrey:
My late dad lost his leg while recovering from quintuple bypass surgery. He had diabetes. While he was recovery from the surgery he developed bed sores which became gangrenous and the leg came off above the knee.
The Communist West
Reality bites: Russian ships off the coast of Syria to deter the West.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=298541
waldensianspirit wrote:
So my #120 is Commie versus Commie? No wonder I’m confused.
Downton Abbey! Downton Abbey!
huckfunn wrote:
above the knee is very bad news…so far I have a lower leg but not much…sometimes I get so depressed I wonder if above the knee and that whole other matrx might have been better for me…I’m a tweener and it’s not worked out well for me….so far
huckfunn wrote:
My dad lost both legs to gangrene from diabetes. He never felt better in his life than he did when both were gone. His blood sugars evened out and he stopped having as many health problems.
Then in March he just dropped dead of cardiac arrest.
huckfunn wrote:
The curse of living is, that sooner or later you’re going to die. I’m not without empathy, just trying to not bum heysoos by being overly serious about it. I had a friend who had diabetes, they took him apart piece by piece starting at his feet, after both of his legs had been amputated at his hips he finally got a clot that stroked him out.
eaglesoars wrote:
So is that KGB propaganda channel RT. The real problem is The New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, etc.
heysoos wrote:
I take it you suffer from nerothropy?
Mars wrote:
I tried to save my leg with multiple bypasses…looking back I should have chopped it sooner, a best of worst scenario…but you sit around thinking, wow, no leg…how does that work?…it’s intimidating
heysoos wrote:
Sorry to hear of your troubles. Dad was getting around OK with a peg leg and walker. He was even driving which just drove me crazy. The diabetes finally got his kidneys just before Thanksgiving in 2008.
@ doriangrey:
clots…can’t break them up, can’t use any mechanics…it’s not yet fully understood…my diet, health, and general cardiac situation is good, maybe even very good…it’s a circulatory mystery that probably has to do with my arteriol walls…I make clots for no reason I guess…clots kill you…I’m hardly afraid of some govt dork trying to take my guns…I have other issues
heysoos wrote:
I hear ya. Back in 1988 I was in a car crash that crushed both of my legs. The doctors wanted to amputate them both at the knee’s, it was that bad. Lucky for me there was a brand new surgical procedure called a Hydro-arterial expansion, I was the second person on earth to have the procedure and it saved both of my legs. It was also the single most painful medical procedure that a human being can have that doesn’t kill them.
2 Thorium 90 spinal taps… thorium 90 radioactive dye shot down your spin in a spinal tap, makes every single nerve in your body think someone just turned an acetylene torch on every single square inch of your body. Not fun at all, but it did work. Sorry your procedures weren’t as successful.
heysoos wrote:
Wow, not sure which is worse…
@ huckfunn:
I’m fine, my attitude is good…it’s been a real trip tho…
I’ve only felt sorry for myself late at night when nobody was watching I hope…once my surgeon called me one tough hombre and I nearly broke out in tears knowing that it was not true…how people perceive these events is not likely to be what really went down
heysoos wrote:
Dude, despite what you may think, if you are keeping it together at all, then your surgeon is right, you’re one tough hombre..
doriangrey wrote:
I don’t see myself as tough about any of this shit…but I’ll tell you, waking up with no leg is so bizarre and unreal that it just can’t compute with most people…but it’s only a scratch bro
let me tell you this…Ive lost a lower leg…it’s nothing in comparison to losing an arm, or your sight, or brain function…I’m humbled in comparison
doriangrey wrote:
Aaaand, so much for my appetite…………think I’ll go help Hubby get the tree out of the stand. BBIAB
yenta-fada wrote:
no. jpost has this seriously wrong, on purpose i am sure.
these boats are going to evacuate russians and the families, protect the embassy, and probably manage the withdrawal of any russian assets as the muslim brotherhood takes over. fortunately, russia has been very liberal in allowing orthodox syrian orthodox christians to move to russia.
Aach. He’s watching the seahawks/Rdskins game. Seahawks just pulled ahead.
heysoos, how old were you when this clotting problem showed up? The reason I ask is that our neighbor just had a serious problem with unexplained clots -- she’s 52, doesn’t smoke, drink, etc. She’s flies a lot and that might have something to do with it………..
@ eaglesoars:
56
coldwarrior wrote:
Forget where I read it, but many Syrian men attended university in Russia and brought home Russian wives. There’s been quite a bit of cross-cultural pollination. I believe Assad’s British-born wife is in Russia now.
@ eaglesoars:
flies alot…there is item one
has she had any coagulation studies?
heysoos wrote:
Thanks. I’m going to mention this to our neighbor.
coldwarrior wrote:
I assume so. It’s about 3 days since we’ve seen her and she’s still pretty tired and we don’t want to dig until she feels better. But she’s off the oxygen and doesn’t need Hubby to take her garbage to the curb for her anymore. Progress but it’s slow. Scared the hell out of everybody.
eaglesoars wrote:
the syrians who married russians are orthodox christians. moscow is trrying to evac as amany of them as they can, think our last days in vietnam style.
also, rodan tells me there is a serious migration of orthodox out of syria and into latin america like the lebanese did many years ago.
too bad our shores arent open to them. the local orhtodox churches here are sponsoring 2 families until they get their feet up under them. they are here already.
@ yenta-fada:
Get a good slingshot, some rubber gloves, and by dark of night, lob catsh*t and dogsh*t at the mosque. At least you will have fun.
@ eaglesoars:
?????
Why the oxygen for a blood clot?
heysoos wrote:
I was born with clubbed feet, I wore casts on both of my legs up to my hips until I was seven years old. I have been in pain because of it my entire life. Some things I don’t understand, some I do. For example, I do not know nor can I comprehend what it means to be pain free.
My little brother ruptured a couple of disc’s in his back a few years ago. The doctors gave him pain medication, he gave me a couple of them. I took them, and it freaked me out something fierce, because I could literally feel all the places in my body that didn’t hurt. It was such a alien feeling that I gave him back the couple pills that I had left.
I don’t tell most people that I know that I was born with a birth defect and they never figure it out on their own. I don’t need or want their sympathy, I just want to be treated like anyone else who is “Normal”.
Macker wrote:
Crap! Macker, I didn’t know Osprey was ailing. Next time you talk to him, pleas give him my best wishes for speedy recovery.
@ coldwarrior:
Get all the decent folk out, and then nuke the place until nothing bounces but the rubble.
Oh dear…. All three of the monsters that invaded my house last night are gone… but Grandma is still watching the Disney Channel… I fear that this might actually indicate that she likes those little monsters…
Calo wrote:
One of the clots was in her lung (the other in her leg). For about a week she thought she had a cold and was on anti-biotics. Then at 2 am one morning she couldn’t breathe, she couldn’t move, she couldn’t TALK It took her one solid hour to scoot down the stairs and hit her medical alarm button -- which she installed only because she lives alone. At 3 am Molly heard all the rescue equipment pulling in (we have a shared driveway) and went nuts. We met up with her when they brought her out on the guerney and I really thought she might not make it she looked so bad. She couldn’t speak. One of the good things about the alert system is that they have a list of people to contact in an emergency situation.
Guess what we got installed the next week (Hubby travels a lot and I’m alone -- with a history of seizures)
@ eaglesoars:
OK, that makes sense. A clot traveled to her lung and she needed some oxygen for a while.
And, good move on installing one of those alarm buttons if you are alone a lot.
Calo wrote:
PE?
coldwarrior wrote:
I wonder if we’re taking any Egyptian Copts……….
@ eaglesoars:
@ coldwarrior:
shoulda kept reading…
eaglesoars wrote:
nope.
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
amen.
What’s classier than a Marine in dress blues?
A Marine in dress blues escorting a special needs child to the Cinderella Ball. Semper Fi!
Wow…today is George and Barbara Bush’s 68th anniversary.
Oh. Crap.
h/t freepers
@ eaglesoars:
Glynco has been the home of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) for decades.
It’s where the Border Patrol trains, among other things.
lobo91 wrote:
So, no biggie?
@ eaglesoars:
Probably not. That facility’s needed to expand for years.
@ lobo91:
thank you.
@ eaglesoars:
It’s also where the Marshall’s Service trains.
@ eaglesoars:
Says more about the Geneva Conventions (and the idiot who wrote this crap) than it does about anything else.
Check the service pistol of virtually any cop in America, and you’ll find that it’s loaded with hollow points.
lobo91 wrote:
well yes but that is domestic peacekeeping. you can’t use hollow points, 50. cal or shotguns on the battelfield … or so they say.
@ brookly red:
And what’s your point? We’re talking about DHS employees, who are presumably going to be working domestically, which means the Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with them.
And there’s no prohibition against using shotguns or .50 cal weapons on the battlefield. We use them every day.
lobo91 wrote:
exactly, the GC is useless. just more feel good words
lobo91 wrote:
and yes you can’t use 50. cal on people, only equipment (feels good) … but of course a belt buckel can be considered equipment.
@ brookly red:
All that crap is the result of lawyers trying to invent rules about things they don’t understand.
What the treaty actually says is that you’re not allowed to use projectiles that are intended to cause undue suffering.
Nobody’s going to suffer after being shot with a .50 cal.
And it seems to me that shooting someone with a modern hollowpoint round that kills them cleanly is going to cause less suffering than if they bleed out slowly after being hit by a 62 grain tungsten-core bullet that punches tiny holes through them.
@ Alberta Oil Peon:
And don’t forget the pigshit….
brookly red wrote:
A Barrett sniper rifle is 50 cal -- and I believe Warthogs (A-10s?)are equipped w/ 50 cal
lobo91 wrote:
That’s fer shure -- you should see what I did to a school bus…….
Downton Abbey is on -- bye
@ eaglesoars:
A-10s carry a 30mm cannon. Way bigger than a .50 cal.
Half the vehicles the Army owns have .50 cal machine guns mounted on them, though.
@ lobo91:
They usually do the flyovers here for big Steeler games.
So loud. They’re freakin’ awesome.
@ lobo91:
Nobody’s going to suffer after being shot with a .50 cal.
It is against the Geneva Convention to shoot personell with a .50 cal only enemy equipment and machines.
The US Army has been trained to respond to say, “I was aiming for his LBE.”
@ Buckeye Abroad:
I’m not aware of a single person who’s ever been prosecuted for shooting someone with a .50 cal. Happens every day.