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Political Automotive Art: The Bradley Manning Traitor-Mobile Edition

by Urban Infidel ( 88 Comments › )
Filed under Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Progressives at January 8th, 2013 - 8:00 pm
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Spotted this ‘WikiLeaks War Crime Scene Investigator Unit’ vehicle in my area recently.
I wonder what war crimes could possibly be taking place in here hipsterville, USA.
And speaking of crimes and criminals… 
 AMERICAN TRAITORS IN THE NEWS!: 
A U.S. Military Judge is set to rule later today on a motion to dismiss all charges against Bradley Manning, who is charged with sending thousands of classified documents to WikiLeaks–the largest U.S. military intelligence breach in American history.
(Cross Posted @ Urban Infidel)

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88 Responses to “Political Automotive Art: The Bradley Manning Traitor-Mobile Edition”
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  1. 1 | January 8, 2013 8:03 pm

    The little catamite should hang!


  2. 2 | January 8, 2013 8:04 pm

    I was hesitant about putting a “Romney/Ryan” sticker on my car-I’ll bet these people had no such concerns with this display. Therein lies the problem.


  3. eaglesoars
    3 | January 8, 2013 8:07 pm

    a motion to dismiss all charges against Bradley Manning,

    Yeah, didn’t happen. All together now……awwwwwww


  4. buzzsawmonkey
    4 | January 8, 2013 8:12 pm

    re-post:

    The Bradley Man
    —apologies to “The Candy Man”

    Who can take state secrets?
    Send them to Wikileaks?
    Justify himself no matter what havoc it wreaks?
    The Bradley Man
    The Bradley Man can
    The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality

    Who can join the service?
    Then betray his oath?
    ‘Cause he’s just pursuing his own personal growth
    The Bradley Man
    The Bradley Man can
    The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality

    The Bradley Man betrayed his uniformed comrades
    While working in a war theater
    Burned CDs to distribute later
    That’s what people call a traitor

    Who can ride a rainbow
    Into his own hell?
    Who is the new posterboy for don’t ask and don’t tell?
    The Bradley Man
    The Bradley Man can
    The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality

    The Bradley Man betrayed his uniformed comrades
    While working in a war theater
    Burned CDs to distribute later
    That’s what people call a traitor

    Yeah, yeah, yeah
    Who can ride a rainbow
    Into his own hell?
    Who is the new posterboy for don’t ask and don’t tell?
    The Bradley Man
    The Bradley Man can
    The Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality
    Yes, the Bradley Man can because he’s a soldier fighting for equality

    Bradley Man, Bradley Man
    Bradley Man, Bradley Man
    Bradley Man, Bradley Man…


  5. lobo91
    5 | January 8, 2013 8:15 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    No, but this did:

    An Army private suspected of sending reams of classified documents to the secret-sharing WikiLeaks website was illegally punished at a Marine Corps brig and should get 112 days cut from any prison sentence he receives if convicted, a military judge ruled Tuesday.

    Army Col. Denise Lind ruled during a pretrial hearing that authorities went too far in their strict confinement of Pfc. Bradley Manning for nine months in a Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va., in 2010 and 2011. Manning was confined to a windowless cell 23 hours a day, sometimes with no clothing. Brig officials said it was to keep him from hurting himself or others.

    Lind said Manning’s confinement was “more rigorous than necessary.” She added that the conditions “became excessive in relation to legitimate government interests.”

    Manning faces 22 charges, including aiding the enemy, which carries a maximum sentence of life behind bars. His trial begins March 6.


  6. buzzsawmonkey
    6 | January 8, 2013 8:17 pm

    In other news, a Post-Structuralist professor carrying farm implement was arrested for defying the ban on semiotic mattock weapons…


  7. Moe Katz
    7 | January 8, 2013 8:19 pm

    He and Assange should have been quietly liquidated a very long time ago.


  8. citizen_q
    8 | January 8, 2013 8:20 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Would that be “udder” news?


  9. Moe Katz
    9 | January 8, 2013 8:21 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    In other news, a Post-Structuralist professor carrying farm implement was arrested for defying the ban on semiotic mattock weapons…

    What do you get when you cross a Post-Modernist with a Mafioso? An offer you can’t understand.


  10. RIX
    10 | January 8, 2013 8:33 pm

    As bad as it is what Manning did, what about John Kerry?
    Yet he won multiple elections to the Senate, almost became
    President & now is slated to become Sec of State.
    The man is a walking disgrace.


  11. buzzsawmonkey
    11 | January 8, 2013 8:35 pm

    RIX wrote:

    As bad as it is what Manning did, what about John Kerry?
    Yet he won multiple elections to the Senate, almost became
    President & now is slated to become Sec of State.
    The man is a walking disgrace.

    See what Bradley Manning missed out on by leaking classified information instead of merely meeting with the enemy and marrying money?


  12. buzzsawmonkey
    12 | January 8, 2013 8:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    Bradley Manning made poor career choices, unlike John Kerry. If he’d thought ahead a little bit, he could have been in line for Secretary of State sometime along about 2033.


  13. RIX
    13 | January 8, 2013 8:40 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Bradley Manning made poor career choices, unlike John Kerry. If he’d thought ahead a little bit, he could have been in line for Secretary of State sometime along about 2033.

    You beat me to it. Bradley was just ill advised.


  14. buzzsawmonkey
    14 | January 8, 2013 8:44 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Bradley was just ill advised.

    With all the anti-DA/DT agitation, and Manning’s open flouting of it while on duty, he could have completed his tour and become a political figure. In these times, a “war queer-o” would have it all over a “war hero”, politically speaking. He’d have been a political darling instead of looking at a life sentence less 112 days.


  15. RIX
    15 | January 8, 2013 8:45 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Bradley has this coming.


  16. Da_Beerfreak
    16 | January 8, 2013 8:49 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Bradley Manning made poor career choices, unlike John Kerry. If he’d thought ahead a little bit, he could have been in line for Secretary of State sometime along about 2033.

    He still might be. All he needs is a pardon from the prez. :evil:


  17. Prebanned
    17 | January 8, 2013 9:03 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Need to try him on about half of what he leaked.
    Save the rest for a second life sentance after his pardon.


  18. Speranza
    18 | January 8, 2013 9:05 pm

    That Manning ought to be hanged.


  19. Speranza
    19 | January 8, 2013 9:06 pm

    RIX wrote:

    As bad as it is what Manning did, what about John Kerry?
    Yet he won multiple elections to the Senate, almost became
    President & now is slated to become Sec of State.
    The man is a walking disgrace.

    Kerry, Hagel, and Brennan -- a more leftist trio at the foreign/defense /intelligence portfolios we have never had.


  20. 20 | January 8, 2013 9:07 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Hipsters are Obama’s true base. He came out of that culture.


  21. Speranza
    21 | January 8, 2013 9:08 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Hipsters are Obama’s true base. He came out of that culture.

    Hipsters and ignorant, low information voters.


  22. 22 | January 8, 2013 9:12 pm

    @ Speranza:

    They created the Obama phenomenon.


  23. darkwords
    23 | January 8, 2013 9:13 pm

    @ 18 Speranza: I’m probably ok if they cut 200 days off his execution date.


  24. RIX
    24 | January 8, 2013 9:14 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    As bad as it is what Manning did, what about John Kerry?
    Yet he won multiple elections to the Senate, almost became
    President & now is slated to become Sec of State.
    The man is a walking disgrace.

    Kerry, Hagel, and Brennan — a more leftist trio at the foreign/defense /intelligence portfolios we have never had.

    This is Obama flipping the bird.
    The people have spoken & they did it twice.
    We have never had a man this radical as President.
    He is an entitled jerk with a grudge.


  25. 25 | January 8, 2013 9:27 pm

    @ lobo91:

    yes, and since his crimes carry a possible death sentence, should the prosecution seek such, which they said already that they won’t, those 112 days coming off probably won’t see Manning watching any more sunsets during his entire life. He may get 112 years, and those 112 days coming off won’t amount to a hill of beans. Even if he does get out, I wouldn’t expect him to get a warm reception from society as a whole, beyond the wiki crowd that is.


  26. unclassifiable
    26 | January 8, 2013 9:28 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Hipsters are Obama’s true base. He came out of that culture.

    RIX wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    As bad as it is what Manning did, what about John Kerry?
    Yet he won multiple elections to the Senate, almost became
    President & now is slated to become Sec of State.
    The man is a walking disgrace.
    Kerry, Hagel, and Brennan — a more leftist trio at the foreign/defense /intelligence portfolios we have never had.
    This is Obama flipping the bird.
    The people have spoken & they did it twice.
    We have never had a man this radical as President.
    He is an entitled jerk with a grudge.

    I have one question for the folks.
    Fair enough that the voted for Obama.

    But will they fight for him?

    And I don’t mean talking real loud either.


  27. buzzsawmonkey
    27 | January 8, 2013 9:31 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    I have one question for the folks.
    Fair enough that the voted for Obama.

    But will they fight for him?

    And I don’t mean talking real loud either.

    Oh, yes. The cry will ring throughout the land: “Remember the Obamaphone™!”


  28. unclassifiable
    29 | January 8, 2013 9:33 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    What I mean to say is if B. Manning is the new “hero” to the military, why should conservative military personnel continue in our Armed Forces.

    Obama is going to get us in a shooting war. This will be the only distraction he will have from a domestic insurrection when things get awful.

    Why should conservative military men and women support him?

    I am not suggesting going AWOL but I might be suggesting “sudden conscientious objector status”.


  29. Moe Katz
    30 | January 8, 2013 9:34 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    That Manning ought to be hanged.

    As an attorney you may find this offensive, but his kind should be dealt with extrajudicially, i.e. made to disappear.


  30. Moe Katz
    31 | January 8, 2013 9:40 pm

    RIX wrote:

    This is Obama flipping the bird.
    The people have spoken & they did it twice.
    We have never had a man this radical as President.
    He is an entitled jerk with a grudge.

    I’m sure there is rejoicing in Teheran right now.


  31. Prebanned
    32 | January 8, 2013 9:42 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    I disagree, see the Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution.

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    In Bradleys case that is, Assange aint no American citizen.


  32. Moe Katz
    33 | January 8, 2013 9:43 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    I disagree, see the Sixth Amendment to the US Constitution.
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
    In Bradleys case that is, Assange aint no American citizen.

    Okay. Assange liquidated, Manning an unfortunate fatal accident while serving his country.


  33. The Osprey
    34 | January 8, 2013 9:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    Hipsters are Obama’s true base. He came out of that culture.

    Hipsters are only one part of Obama’s base. Don’t forget the Afro-Marxists and other Third World Anti-Colonialists.


  34. Speranza
    35 | January 8, 2013 9:45 pm

    I just saw Ted Cruz on Sean Hannity’s show. Why can’t the public face of the Republican Party be people such as Cruz, Nikki Haley, Susanna Martinez who are articulate, forceful, likeable, knowledgeable, and low key instead of screachers, in your face types such as Santorum, Bachmann, and Angle or self promoters such as John McCain and Miss Lindsey Graham or the patrician Bush’s?


  35. Speranza
    36 | January 8, 2013 9:47 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    That Manning ought to be hanged.

    As an attorney you may find this offensive, but his kind should be dealt with extrajudicially, i.e. made to disappear.

    “I see nothing”
    Sgt. Schultz


  36. Moe Katz
    37 | January 8, 2013 9:48 pm

    @ Speranza:
    LOL! You have the right to remain silent!


  37. Speranza
    38 | January 8, 2013 9:50 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    LOL! You have the right to remain silent!

    No man, no problem. Death solves all problems.
    Allegedly said by Stalin but he never actually said it.


  38. Moe Katz
    39 | January 8, 2013 9:51 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Don’t forget the Afro-Marxists and other Third World Anti-Colonialists.

    And the huge mass of ordinary liberals that buy into a lot of those beliefs without actually carrying the ideology as such.


  39. Speranza
    40 | January 8, 2013 9:52 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    And the huge mass of ordinary liberals that buy into a lot of those beliefs without actually carrying the ideology as such.

    One of my liberal friends at work today was complaining to me about the fact her paycheck was $100 less then the last check she got in December.
    Bwaaaah


  40. RIX
    41 | January 8, 2013 9:53 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    This is Obama flipping the bird.
    The people have spoken & they did it twice.
    We have never had a man this radical as President.
    He is an entitled jerk with a grudge.

    I’m sure there is rejoicing in Teheran right now.

    They are vocal about Hagel. He’s their guy.


  41. Moe Katz
    42 | January 8, 2013 9:53 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Good line, anyway … belongs in a war/spy movie.


  42. RIX
    43 | January 8, 2013 9:54 pm

    Good night all.


  43. Speranza
    44 | January 8, 2013 9:54 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    This is Obama flipping the bird.
    The people have spoken & they did it twice.
    We have never had a man this radical as President.
    He is an entitled jerk with a grudge.
    I’m sure there is rejoicing in Teheran right now.

    They are vocal about Hagel. He’s their guy.

    And the question that needs to be asked him (Hagel) is “Why do you suppose that two anti-Semites named Andrew Sullivan and Pat Buchanan are fervent supporters of yours?


  44. Moe Katz
    45 | January 8, 2013 9:56 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    One of my liberal friends at work today was complaining to me about the fact her paycheck was $100 less then the last check she got in December.
    Bwaaaah

    Heh, as they say at NASA, there’s no such thing as a free launch.


  45. Speranza
    46 | January 8, 2013 9:56 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Good line, anyway … belongs in a war/spy movie.

    Like Marie Antoinette’s “Let them eat cake” -- it is purely fictitious. Stalin did not consider any death outside of his own (and not his son Yakob who was killed in a German POW camp) to be a problem.


  46. Moe Katz
    47 | January 8, 2013 9:56 pm

    @ RIX:
    Night Rix.


  47. Moe Katz
    48 | January 8, 2013 10:00 pm

    @ Speranza:
    You know, I had the idea for using that Marie Antoinette thing for a French-language commercial for packaged cakes and pastries, and I did eventually see it used for an English-language commercial for Sara Lee or some such thingy.


  48. unclassifiable
    49 | January 8, 2013 10:02 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Interesting story.

    Dan Patrick is a GOP State Senator here in the Houston Area. He got in a fairly heated argument with Cruz because Cruz WOULD NOT BE A GOOD SENATOR BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT COMPROMISE (Patrick was a Dewhurst supporter and is what Rodan calls a social conservative).

    Wolf Blitzer repeated the same accusation several days ago on CNN.

    1) Pretty damn lazy on Wolf’s part
    2) Pretty damn lazy intellectual thinking on Dan Patrick’s part.

    There is NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in the constitution that says a Senator has to compromise.

    And as far as I am concerned the GOP Senators have compromised enough!


  49. lobo91
    50 | January 8, 2013 10:08 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    There is NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in the constitution that says a Senator has to compromise.

    What does the Constitution have to do with our government?
    //


  50. 51 | January 8, 2013 10:29 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Hipsters are only one part of Obama’s base. Don’t forget the Afro-Marxists and other Third World Anti-Colonialists.

    No question and actually there is an overlap of those groups.


  51. 52 | January 8, 2013 10:33 pm

    @ Speranza:

    It’s funny how Raimondo and Sullivan who are gay, love Buchanan who hates gays.


  52. Speranza
    53 | January 8, 2013 10:35 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    I am highly impressed by Ted Cruz.


  53. Speranza
    54 | January 8, 2013 10:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    It’s funny how Raimondo and Sullivan who are gay, love Buchanan who hates gays.

    They hate Jews more.


  54. Speranza
    55 | January 8, 2013 10:36 pm

    @ Rodan
    I just spoke to Carolina Girl.
    The threesome is on for Sunday.
    Heh, I had to throw that in to see if people were awake. We are talking about a three-way phone conversation.


  55. 56 | January 8, 2013 10:58 pm

    From a former classmate:

    Next time someone tells you welfare is bad for the economy, show them this. If they say it again, they’ll know they’re lying.

    Biggest spenders on welfare: Denmark (1) Sweden (2) Switzerland (6) Finland (8 ) Netherlands (9).
    Most competitve capitalist economies Switzerland (1), Finland (3), Sweden (4), Netherlands (5), Denmark (12)

    I’d hardly consider some of those economies ‘capitalist’, for one thing.


  56. 57 | January 8, 2013 11:01 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    And, it also has the virtue of being complete bull shit.


  57. Moe Katz
    58 | January 8, 2013 11:13 pm

    @ mfhorn:
    Putting on my racist hat, I would point to the demographic nature of the countries mentioned, in contrast to that of the USA.


  58. Moe Katz
    59 | January 8, 2013 11:14 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    You can afford a good safety net if you have a population that basically wants to work and have good skills.


  59. 60 | January 8, 2013 11:15 pm

    Obama claims we ‘don’t have a spending problem.’

    We need some Republican members of the House & Senate to explain just what level of income would have to be taxed at 100% to pay for all this spending.


  60. lobo91
    61 | January 8, 2013 11:28 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    i’d just start by asking a simple question: What year do you plan to stop borrowing money and start paying the debt off?


  61. Moe Katz
    62 | January 9, 2013 12:52 am

    @ mfhorn:
    Why not a VAT, which even Paul Ryan was proposing?


  62. Calo
    63 | January 9, 2013 1:07 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    *face palm*


  63. lobo91
    64 | January 9, 2013 1:11 am

    @ Calo:

    Yeah, that’s what we need…more taxes.

    Or we could stop the federal government from spending 25% of our GDP.


  64. Moe Katz
    65 | January 9, 2013 1:40 am

    That’s pretty low compared to other large, developed countries.


  65. Moe Katz
    67 | January 9, 2013 1:44 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Calo:
    Yeah, that’s what we need…more taxes.

    It would replace some other taxes, mainly lessen the need for higher marginal tax rates.


  66. Calo
    68 | January 9, 2013 1:56 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    I’m all for a flat tax, just not a VAT.

    Did I tell you how much time I spent this week trying to pay my sales tax on a new and improved website? Really, it was obscene.

    And, how much time I spent on my US Business Census Form that I had to fill out or I was going to be imprisoned if I didn’t send it back accurately filled out (15 pages worth of data)?

    And, how much time I had to spend documenting to our insurance company why certain Full-Time employees refused health care insurance? (they are under their husband’s plan)

    I guess that is what I see in a VAT tax -- more useless paperwork, more time out of my hands that I could spend doing constructive things for my business, and more taxes for me.

    But, I do live in a small world. It’s just my perspective on a VAT.


  67. darkwords
    69 | January 9, 2013 2:00 am

    @ 56 mfhorn: If welfare is that good for the economy then it would be even better if the whole population was on welfare. Classmate seems to be lying.


  68. Moe Katz
    70 | January 9, 2013 2:01 am

    @ Calo:
    FWIW I’m no economics maven, far from it. My perspective is just that the rest of the developed countries seem happy with their VAT systems, including Canada, which has a 6% federal VAT.

    What kind of a business do you run? Is your husband involved in it too? I’d been meaning to ask you about that.


  69. Moe Katz
    71 | January 9, 2013 2:06 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    Oops, it’s 5%.


  70. Calo
    72 | January 9, 2013 2:07 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    I can’t answer that online, stalkers and such from other places.
    But, no hubby isn’t involved in my business.

    He has been in the printing industry for 40? (damn, he is so old, I forget how many) years now.

    Ask the admins for my email if you want to know, I’m pretty much an open book via email.


  71. Moe Katz
    73 | January 9, 2013 2:10 am

    @ Calo:
    Will do, Calo. And on that note, goodnight.

    And goodnight Lobo and any lurkers that don’t hate me. And if they do hate me, goodnight anyway.


  72. Calo
    74 | January 9, 2013 2:16 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    Night Moe.

    It was a long day. I didn’t mean to appear to be such a grump.

    ADMINS, if someone is around, toss Moe my email.


  73. 75 | January 9, 2013 3:45 am

    “Real” gun-free zones v “Pretend” gub-free zones. By David Kopel at The Volokh Conspiracy. A rather critical distinction I don’t believe I’ve heard anybody else make in recent discussions…

    http://www.volokh.com/2013/01/09/how-to-stop-school-shootings-right-now-abolish-pretend-gun-free-zones/

    The fact of the matter is that you or anybody else can freely take a gun into a “Pretend” gun-free zone, because absolutely nobody is going to even check to see if you are doing so. There is no enforcement methodology employed.


  74. heysoos
    76 | January 9, 2013 4:19 am

    @ Mike C.:
    @ Mike C.:
    good read, thanks


  75. 77 | January 9, 2013 5:02 am

    @ heysoos:

    I consider The Volokh Conspiracy required daily reading.


  76. Bumr50
    78 | January 9, 2013 5:38 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    @ Calo:

    I would prefer a consumption tax to a VAT, as long as income is no longer taxed.

    I’d welcome it with open arms.


  77. 79 | January 9, 2013 6:25 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Wondeful. But that’s not going to happen, now is it? If enacted, it would be on top of all the other taxes. This isn’t an episode of “My Little Unicorn”, you know.


  78. Guggi
    80 | January 9, 2013 7:00 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    @ Calo:
    I would prefer a consumption tax to a VAT, as long as income is no longer taxed.
    I’d welcome it with open arms.

    The poor people would suffer most.


  79. Moe Katz
    81 | January 9, 2013 7:34 am

    @ Guggi:
    The way we work it in Canada, the poorer people get their VAT back at the end of the year as an income tax rebate.


  80. 82 | January 9, 2013 7:41 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    No doubt with extra thrown on to redistribute income. NO thanks. What we have is bad enough. There need to be no new taxes. There needs to be significant spending cuts. One place to start would be cutting out the budget of the BATF completely.


  81. Moe Katz
    83 | January 9, 2013 7:46 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    No doubt with extra thrown on to redistribute income.

    No, the rebate is less than what they actually pay out.


  82. 84 | January 9, 2013 7:53 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    Still, we don’t need another tax. We don’t have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. If we increase the revenue, the government will just spend that much more. It’s like giving a junkie a free heroin conduit.


  83. 85 | January 9, 2013 7:56 am

    Sales taxes are regressive. Period. Only so-called “flat taxes” are inherently neutral.

    And that’s not going to happen, either. I’m sick of hearing about utopian tax plans until one of the proponents can explain exactly how we’re going to get from A to B. “Explanations” that basically consist of waving some sort of magic wand need not apply. We have a huge and intricate economy structured in large part around a truly Byzantine tax code. YOu want to simplify that? Great! But don’t just tell me where you want to go -- anybody can do that. Tell me how you’re going to get there, in practical terms.


  84. 86 | January 9, 2013 8:05 am

    @ Mike C.:

    There’s too much vested interest in the current system. My mom works at H&R Block. A flat tax puts her out of work. No tjust her, but hundreds of thousands of others like her, plus tax attournies (something the lawyers on Capitol Hill will be concerned about), CPA, and others who’s livelyhoods are based in the current system. The flat tax is a nice idea, but I don’t see how we get there from here, either, at least until the current system collapses. Once that happens, all kinds of modifications that were “impossible” before become not only possible, but mandatory That most especially includes entitlement reform. I don’t think that latter is going to happen until the entire system comes apart.


  85. Da_Beerfreak
    87 | January 9, 2013 8:14 am

    @ Mike C.:
    @ Iron Fist:
    There really is nothing we as individuals can do to change what is going to happen in DC Town. All we can do is watch as the wheels come flying off of their socialist wagon. Just make sure you have plenty of beer and popcorn* on hand. You’re going to need it.

    (*Beer and popcorn, another dog whistle meaning guns and ammo. :wink: )


  86. Moe Katz
    88 | January 10, 2013 9:38 pm


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