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I Can’t Believe We Voted For These People!

by Flyovercountry ( 204 Comments › )
Filed under Politics at January 9th, 2013 - 3:00 pm

So what do you think the solution to the problem that the above chart shows would be according to the balanced approach as advocated by our President and his minions? We not only own $16.4 Trillion to other people, but our current plan of action is to increase that amount by over $1 Trillion each and every year, in perpetuity. According to Barack Obama, our President, the poor federal behemoth known as our government can not possibly get by on the paltry sum of just $2.5 Trillion that it robs each and every year from, “We The People.” In fact, according to his balanced approach, not only do they need at least $3.5 Trillion bones this year, but that minimum number needed to provide free crap for the have nots is going to increase each and every year, for ever.

The problem of course is that no matter what he or we do with tax rates, there is no way that we will ever be able to cover the nut for our government that Barack Obama envisions for us. Our President, despite all evidence to the contrary, is not an idiot. He knows this, and apparently has a solution to the problem. Behold, the Trillion Dollar Coin.

Can this magic solution, worth at least a Billion of Jack’s magic seeds each promising to grow a magic bean stock actually be a viable solution? As it turns out, no. Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution grants authority to mint coins and create our currency expressly to the Congress. And here by the way, John Boehner should take notice. He has the power, with his speakership to stop the devaluation of our currency. The U.S. House of Representatives can put an end to the endless Quantitative Easing.

From Article 1, Section 8, one of 27 specific powers Granted to the Legislative Branch according to our Constitution:

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign
Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

I can not believe that we have reached a point in our history where we are tolerating, collectively speaking, a group of dolts who would even entertain such idiocy as this. Minting a $1 Trillion coin, depositing it from the left pocket to the right, and then just edicting that our problems have been magicked away. Having a President who is operating in a completely lawless manner, telling anyone who will listen, that our founding document deserves to be scrapped because it failed to tackle the problem of redistributive justice is bad enough. Having that same President and his team operate as if our entire reality now includes Unicorns and other mythical creatures is taking his inept arrogance to a whole new level.

I know that somewhere in the Universe, there exists a person who loves this country, as it was founded, enough to take the stand to put an end to Barack Obama’s insistence on fostering our self destruction. Unfortunately, that person does not hold the only office in the land with the capability to put an end to this. John Boehner holds that office. Sure, the Judiciary probably will strike down a lot of this when the wheels of our justice system catch up to what’s been happening, but we don’t have the decade and a half to await for that to happen. Our stand is, for lack of anything better, the House of Representatives.

So, here is my open plea to John Boehner: You campaigned for the job of being the only opposition that stood between Barack Obama and his realization of this dream he has to destroy our nation. There are probably 150 other guys in your deliberative body who are better suited for this position than you are, but you won the seat. So live up to it already. Grow a pair and use the full weight of your Constitutional authority to stop this nonsense. A $1 Trillion coin will not be minted without your say so. Incurring debt is also one of the powers specifically granted to the Congress according to Article 1, Section 8, (and by the way was not altered by the Fourteenth Amendment as some would have us all believe.) All spending starts in the House. You can stop Quantitative Easing, simply by denying Timmy Geitner that ability. Put your faith in the Constitution, and pass budgets, say no, and allow the government to shut down, just like Newt Gingrich did. For all the crap that Newt Gingrich takes over his supposed baggage, he still remains the only American political leader to ever cut actual spending.

There is something that we all can do to help as well, and that is to get on the phone with our various Congress Critters and beseech them to toe the line. We have had enough of this.

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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204 Responses to “I Can’t Believe We Voted For These People!”
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  1. 1 | January 9, 2013 3:08 pm

    I have come to believe that hyperinflation is the goal of these Leftists. Geithner is printing money like there is no tomorrow, and inflation is already a bear, but it isn’t bad enough. Gasoline has doubled in price, as has food, since Obama was first elected, but this isn’t enough. They want Zimbabwe-style hyperinflation to “fix” the “rich”. Of course that ill impoverish the middle cass, but that is really the goal of these people. It won’t impoverish them, so it is OK.


  2. 2 | January 9, 2013 3:13 pm

    doriangrey
    167 | January 9, 2013 3:08 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Hey, anyone know Lobo’s gun class website? Folks over at HotAir are asking questions about where to take gun safety classes, thought I would pimp Lobo out to those who might be in Colorado…


  3. unclassifiable
    3 | January 9, 2013 3:13 pm

    Excellent post as usual flyovercountry!

    May I suggest to Speaker Boehner this:

    “I will not sell my country out to sustain my popularity.”


  4. 4 | January 9, 2013 3:16 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Lobo should be back, when he gets on ask him.


  5. 5 | January 9, 2013 3:17 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    Boehner doesn’t have the popularity to sustain. The Legislature’s stature is below that of cockroaches right now. It’ll get worse as Obama increasingly makes them his bitch. They don’t respect themselves. Why should we respect them?


  6. 6 | January 9, 2013 3:19 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    You could, but Crybaby Boehner would probably choke if he said it.


  7. unclassifiable
    7 | January 9, 2013 3:21 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Well if he is aware of that why does the president get away with putting the onus on the House?

    Clearly if the House GOP majority felt as if they have nothing to lose then why even contemplate any compromise.

    IMHO, they still beleive that they have something to lose.


  8. Moe Katz
    8 | January 9, 2013 3:22 pm

    The right to bear arms.


  9. 9 | January 9, 2013 3:22 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    The media is Obama’s bitch as well -- they’re more than happy not to inform but to further any fiction being proffered by the White House. No one has EVER called Obama on the blatant lies he’s told from the podium, in press conferences, in interviews, etc. Not once. So now they are willing to propagate the fiction that it is somehow the Republican CONGRESS that has incurred all these debts and now don’t want to have to pay for it, whereas the truth is that sans a budget, the country has been running on the baselines of 2009, which included a near-trillion dollar stimulus. They have as yet totally ignored Harry Reid’s refusal to bring the House budget up for a vote or to even offer a counter budget to the House.


  10. 10 | January 9, 2013 3:23 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    IMHO, they still beleive that they have something to lose.

    Invites to the right Georgetown parties. That’s all they really care about, most of them.


  11. yenta-fada
    11 | January 9, 2013 3:24 pm

    Wall Street collusion with Government. Nobody held accountable for MF Global’s confiscation of customer funds.

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – A bankruptcy judge on Tuesday rejected a bid by former MF Global customers to depose the collapsed brokerage’s former chief, Jon Corzine.

    In a written ruling in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Manhattan, Judge Martin Glenn said the Commodity Customer Coalition, which had sought permission to question Corzine and other former MF Global insiders, lacked standing because it is not a direct creditor in the case.

    The coalition, a grassroots group led by Chicago-based commodities trader James Koutoulas, bills itself as representing the interests of thousands of traders whose accounts at MF Global were frozen when the company went under.

    But the coalition itself is merely a “‘watchdog’ entity with its own independent goals,” hoping to depose Corzine “in furtherance of its own interests” rather than those of the MF Global estate, Glenn said in his decision.

    Koutoulas, reached by phone on Tuesday, dismissed that reasoning as “the most minute technicality imaginable.

    “I could have filed 10,000 versions of the motion, one on behalf of each customer we represent,” Koutoulas said, adding that the coalition is considering appealing the decision.

    ca.news.yahoo.com/mf-global-judge-nixes-customer-groups-bid-depose-195035621–sector.html


  12. 12 | January 9, 2013 3:25 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ unclassifiable:
    Boehner doesn’t have the popularity to sustain. The Legislature’s stature is below that of cockroaches right now. It’ll get worse as Obama increasingly makes them his bitch. They don’t respect themselves. Why should we respect them?

    We have a Republic in Name Only. Obama is the state, he is our Sun King/Man-God.


  13. buzzsawmonkey
    13 | January 9, 2013 3:25 pm

    We need a horror film about the Administration; something which details an invasion of horrible, poisonous, otherworldly creatures.

    “Day of the Trillions” would be a good working title.


  14. 14 | January 9, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Wall Street and the Obama Regime are tied at the hip.


  15. 15 | January 9, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Boehner can be the idiot who instead of running from the monster, run towards it!


  16. 16 | January 9, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Yep. We have the worst political class (and I include the media in that class) in our nation’s history. I am really full of despair when I see what is happening to the country. The Democrats fully intend to break the back of the nation, and the Republicans are complicit, because they refuse to even mention this unpleasant fact because they are afraid of hurting somebody’s feelings. We are witnessing the utter breakdown of our society, and most people care more about who’ll be judging the next season of American Idol than what is happening in DC.


  17. buzzsawmonkey
    17 | January 9, 2013 3:27 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Boehner doesn’t have the popularity to sustain.

    If Weepy stood up and acted like a man he might acquire stature. Ain’t holdin’ my breath, though.


  18. 18 | January 9, 2013 3:27 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I am really full of despair when I see what is happening to the country.

    I know the feeling.


  19. waldensianspirit
    19 | January 9, 2013 3:28 pm

    Forever is a very short time


  20. 20 | January 9, 2013 3:28 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    What can’t go on forever, won’t.


  21. 21 | January 9, 2013 3:29 pm

    @ Rodan:

    20 House Democrats have written to Obama urging him to raise debt ceiling by Exec Order -- that’s what -- less than 5% of the total House? But in Obamamath -- it will be phrased as “a majority of the House Democrats…..”


  22. yenta-fada
    22 | January 9, 2013 3:29 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    doriangrey
    167 | January 9, 2013 3:08 pm
    @ Rodan:
    Hey, anyone know Lobo’s gun class website? Folks over at HotAir are asking questions about where to take gun safety classes, thought I would pimp Lobo out to those who might be in Colorado…

    http://orograndetraining.com/


  23. unclassifiable
    23 | January 9, 2013 3:33 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    In a way, voting for those continuing resolutions for spending was the House’s tacit agreement to “keep going”.

    If it was me, I would see that as a sign that my next action is to defeat the next one of those.

    They could call the opponents obstructionist, and say they don’t care, but eventually they will call to try to work something out. And that is when you got them.


  24. 24 | January 9, 2013 3:34 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    He’ll do it and get away with it. The people worship this man as God and has no opposition.


  25. 25 | January 9, 2013 3:35 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    What can’t go on forever, won’t.

    Nature abhors a vacuum.


  26. yenta-fada
    26 | January 9, 2013 3:35 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Wall Street and the Obama Regime are tied at the hip.

    The too-big-to-fail institutions donate to both parties, with some different numbers depending upon the election. Money has always run the world, but the voters have been disenfranchised. It leads, in libertarian-speak, to the Sovereign Individual as the only resistance to sheepledom.


  27. yenta-fada
    27 | January 9, 2013 3:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    He’ll do it and get away with it. The people worship this man as God and has no opposition.

    You called it right here. With a 4 year record of failure and lies, the glow remains.


  28. Moe Katz
    28 | January 9, 2013 3:37 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Rodan, do me a flavor? Calo and I have been trying to exchange e-mail addresses, but so far in vain — see her request on the Bradley Manning thread last night. Do you think you could look after this or have someone else do it?

    TIA, Moe


  29. 29 | January 9, 2013 3:38 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    I’ll take care of. Expect something in the evening.


  30. yenta-fada
    30 | January 9, 2013 3:39 pm

    As an aside, this pic on the way home from vacay in Hawaii, shows Moochelle’s emotional age and true role model. The pre-teen.

    http://lh3.ggpht.com/-4u9CdeFDSa0/UOxQ9fA5qJI/AAAAAAAAwUE/mrjnDGFB2ck/s1600-h/mo%252520h2%25255B3%25255D.jpg


  31. 31 | January 9, 2013 3:39 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    We are not a free people.


  32. Moe Katz
    32 | January 9, 2013 3:40 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Mooch ass grassy ass!


  33. lobo91
    33 | January 9, 2013 3:41 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Thanks.

    I was taking a nap :)


  34. 34 | January 9, 2013 3:41 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    You called it right here. With a 4 year record of failure and lies, the glow remains.

    Obama can kill 5 people on live TV and the people will cheer him. They love this man. I had a talk with an Obot. I asked her why she likes him despite a crappy economy. Her response was no one can fix the economy, Obama is cool and Republicans are evil. She admits the economy sucks, but it doesn’t matter.


  35. 35 | January 9, 2013 3:41 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Mooch ass grassy ass!

    :lol:


  36. lobo91
    36 | January 9, 2013 3:46 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I had a talk with an Obot. I asked her why she likes him despite a crappy economy. Her response was no one can fix the economy, Obama is cool and Republicans are evil. She admits the economy sucks, but it doesn’t matter.

    The rise of the low information voter.

    The economy sucks because of Obama’s efforts, not despite them.


  37. 37 | January 9, 2013 3:46 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    As an aside, this pic on the way home from vacay in Hawaii, shows Moochelle’s emotional age and true role model. The pre-teen.

    Even basic dignity is far too much to ask….and what’s with the $%#*& grimace every time I see that woman’s face? If I’m supporting her double-wide, she should by damn at least pretend she’s enjoying it!

    Oh, wait a minute, I guess that’s covered under the dearth of “basic dignity”…….


  38. 38 | January 9, 2013 3:49 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The rise of the low information voter.

    Whomever came up with the term “Low Information Voter” should get a raise; it’s at once descriptive and insulting. Perfect.


  39. 39 | January 9, 2013 3:54 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Obama’s prolonged this economic downturn. But it doesn’t matter, Obama is their god-king.


  40. buzzsawmonkey
    40 | January 9, 2013 3:55 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Nature abhors a vacuum.

    But it loves a carpet sweeper!


  41. yenta-fada
    41 | January 9, 2013 3:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Thanks.
    I was taking a nap

    Obviously, so was Leia. :-)


  42. lobo91
    42 | January 9, 2013 4:00 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Thanks.
    I was taking a nap

    Obviously, so was Leia.

    Yes, she was.


  43. buzzsawmonkey
    43 | January 9, 2013 4:01 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    ….and what’s with the $%#*& grimace every time I see that woman’s face?

    It’s the Perpetual Scowl of the Incompetent Supervisor™.


  44. 44 | January 9, 2013 4:02 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:
    doriangrey
    167 | January 9, 2013 3:08 pm
    @ Rodan:
    Hey, anyone know Lobo’s gun class website? Folks over at HotAir are asking questions about where to take gun safety classes, thought I would pimp Lobo out to those who might be in Colorado…
    http://orograndetraining.com/

    Thank you…


  45. Da_Beerfreak
    45 | January 9, 2013 4:03 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:

    What can’t go on forever, won’t.

    We are near the end of the road and there is one big ass pile of cans there. :shock:


  46. yenta-fada
    46 | January 9, 2013 4:04 pm

    Long, but an actual study of Dumb-ocracy in action.

    Nearly two years ago, U.S. News & World Report came out with a story titled “Educators Implicated in Atlanta Cheating Scandal.” It reported that “for 10 years, hundreds of Atlanta public school teachers and principals changed answers on state tests in one of the largest cheating scandals in U.S. history.” More than three-quarters of the 56 Atlanta schools investigated had cheated on the National Assessment of Educational Progress test, sometimes called the national report card. Cheating orders came from school administrators and included brazen acts such as teachers reading answers aloud during the test and erasing incorrect answers. One teacher told a colleague, “I had to give your kids, or your students, the answers because they’re dumb as hell.” Atlanta’s not alone. There have been investigations, reports and charges of teacher-assisted cheating in other cities, such as Philadelphia, Houston, New York, Detroit, Baltimore, Los Angeles and Washington.

    Recently, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s blog carried a story titled “A new cheating scandal: Aspiring teachers hiring ringers.” According to the story, for at least 15 years, teachers in Arkansas, Mississippi and Tennessee paid Clarence Mumford, who’s now under indictment, between $1,500 and $3,000 to send someone else to take their Praxis exam, which is used for K-12 teacher certification in 40 states. Sandra Stotsky, an education professor at the University of Arkansas, said, “(Praxis I) is an easy test for anyone who has completed high school but has nothing to do with college-level ability or scores.” She added, “The test is far too undemanding for a prospective teacher. … The fact that these people hired somebody to take an easy test of their skills suggests that these prospective teachers were probably so academically weak it is questionable whether they would have been suitable teachers.”

    Here’s a practice Praxis I math question: Which of the following is equal to a quarter-million – 40,000, 250,000, 2,500,000, 1/4,000,000 or 4/1,000,000? The test taker is asked to click on the correct answer. A practice writing skills question is to identify the error in the following sentence: “The club members agreed that each would contribute ten days of voluntary work annually each year at the local hospital.” The test taker is supposed to point out that “annually each year” is redundant.

    CNN broke this cheating story last July, but the story hasn’t gotten much national press since then. In an article for NewsBusters, titled “Months-Old, Three-State Teacher Certification Test Cheating Scandal Gets Major AP Story – on a Slow News Weekend” (11/25/12), Tom Blumer quotes speculation by the blog “educationrealist”: “I will be extremely surprised if it does not turn out that most if not all of the teachers who bought themselves a test grade are black. (I am also betting that the actual testers are white, but am not as certain. It just seems that if black people were taking the test and guaranteeing passage, the fees would be higher.)”

    There’s some basis in fact for the speculation that it’s mostly black teachers buying grades, and that includes former Steelers wide receiver Cedrick Wilson, who’s been indicted for fraud. According to a study titled “Differences in Passing Rates on Praxis I Tests by Race/Ethnicity Group” (March 2011), the percentages of blacks who passed the Praxis I reading, writing and mathematics tests on their first try were 41, 44 and 37, respectively. For white test takers, the respective percentages were 82, 80 and 78.

    This test-taking fraud is merely the tip of a much larger iceberg. It highlights the educational fraud being perpetrated on blacks during their K-12 education. Four or five years of college – even majoring in education, an undemanding subject – cannot make up for those 13 years of rotten education. Then they’re given a college degree that is fraudulent, seeing as some have difficulty passing a test that shouldn’t be challenging to even a 12th-grader. Here’s my question: If they manage to get through the mockery of teacher certification, at what schools do you think they will teach?

    January 8, 2013, Walter E. Williams


  47. yenta-fada
    47 | January 9, 2013 4:04 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Don’t be a stranger. :-)


  48. lobo91
    48 | January 9, 2013 4:05 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:

    What can’t go on forever, won’t.

    We are near the end of the road and there is one big ass pile of cans there.

    It’s cans all the way down…


  49. 49 | January 9, 2013 4:05 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Rush Limbaugh has been using it since the election, but I believe Speranza was using that term prior to that.


  50. buzzsawmonkey
    50 | January 9, 2013 4:07 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Then they’re given a college degree that is fraudulent

    And then, if they’re Sheila Jackson Lee, they get a law degree that is fraudulent, and go to Congress.


  51. lobo91
    51 | January 9, 2013 4:07 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    He’s obviously a racist.

    Oh, wait…
    //


  52. Da_Beerfreak
    52 | January 9, 2013 4:09 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    20 House Democrats have written to Obama urging him to raise debt ceiling by Exec Order — that’s what — less than 5% of the total House? But in Obamamath — it will be phrased as “a majority of the House Democrats…..”

    The Idiots really think jugears (I’m stealing that one :twisted: ) can use the 14th Amendment as grounds to act on his own which is complete bullcrap.


  53. buzzsawmonkey
    53 | January 9, 2013 4:13 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The Idiots really think jugears (I’m stealing that one ) can use the 14th Amendment as grounds to act on his own which is complete bullcrap.

    Even if that passage in the 14th Amendment meant what they pretend it says, which it doesn’t, it says that “Congress shall have the power to enforce” the provisions “by appropriate legislation.” No room for Obama’s dictator act there.


  54. yenta-fada
    54 | January 9, 2013 4:13 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Then they’re given a college degree that is fraudulent
    And then, if they’re Sheila Jackson Lee, they get a law degree that is fraudulent, and go to Congress.

    Or the eternal favorite, Hank Johnson.


  55. lobo91
    55 | January 9, 2013 4:14 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    The Idiots really think jugears (I’m stealing that one ) can use the 14th Amendment as grounds to act on his own which is complete bullcrap.

    Actually it’s double bullcrap.

    First, the clause from the 14th Amendment that they’re misapplying refers specifically to debts incurred during the Civil War, which have all been long settled.

    And second, paying our debts doesn’t require raising the debt ceiling in the first place. Our monthly debt service is around $30 billion. Revnues amount to about $200 billion.

    They’re conflating debt service and new expenditures.


  56. waldensianspirit
    56 | January 9, 2013 4:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Nature abhors a vacuum.

    Obama = vacuum …


  57. yenta-fada
    57 | January 9, 2013 4:15 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I also make fun of white people, just in case you were wondering.


  58. buzzsawmonkey
    58 | January 9, 2013 4:16 pm

    Obama mmm Mao Mao
    Obama mmm Mao Mao
    Flippin’ the bird
    Bird
    The bird is the word…

    —”Choomin’ Bird”


  59. 59 | January 9, 2013 4:17 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    It’s always amusing to me that libturds can read hidden messages in every amendment and yet completely not see the plain language of “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


  60. Da_Beerfreak
    60 | January 9, 2013 4:17 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    Nature abhors a vacuum.

    But it loves a carpet sweeper!

    I wonder just how many Folks now days even know what a carpet sweeper is.


  61. yenta-fada
    61 | January 9, 2013 4:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    The Idiots really think jugears (I’m stealing that one ) can use the 14th Amendment as grounds to act on his own which is complete bullcrap.
    Actually it’s double bullcrap.
    First, the clause from the 14th Amendment that they’re misapplying refers specifically to debts incurred during the Civil War, which have all been long settled.
    And second, paying our debts doesn’t require raising the debt ceiling in the first place. Our monthly debt service is around $30 billion. Revnues amount to about $200 billion.
    They’re conflating debt service and new expenditures.

    Good call!
    See, this is why you can’t get a job in government. You scare them.


  62. 62 | January 9, 2013 4:18 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the lure of cilantro?


  63. 63 | January 9, 2013 4:18 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I wish it that. He has no opposition and can do what he pleases.


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | January 9, 2013 4:19 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Obama mmm Mao Mao
    Obama mmm Mao Mao
    Flippin’ the bird
    Bird
    The bird is the word…
    —”Choomin’ Bird”

    ‘Blame Game’


  65. lobo91
    65 | January 9, 2013 4:20 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the lure of cilantro?

    Nope. I despise the stuff.


  66. yenta-fada
    66 | January 9, 2013 4:21 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the lure of cilantro?

    Smells like dirty feet. Widely used in Indian cooking as well, where it is drowned out in a melange of great spices.


  67. 67 | January 9, 2013 4:22 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I remember when Fennel was the next big thing in food back in the ’80s. I was like “is there a reason we want everything to have the faint taste of licorice?


  68. Da_Beerfreak
    68 | January 9, 2013 4:22 pm

    @ lobo91:
    :grin: :grin:


  69. yenta-fada
    69 | January 9, 2013 4:24 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I remember when Fennel was the next big thing in food back in the ’80s. I was like “is there a reason we want everything to have the faint taste of licorice?

    I remember when you could make spaghetti, salad, and garlic bread, and call it a dinner party.


  70. Lily
    70 | January 9, 2013 4:26 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    You called it right here. With a 4 year record of failure and lies, the glow remains.
    Obama can kill 5 people on live TV and the people will cheer him. They love this man. I had a talk with an Obot. I asked her why she likes him despite a crappy economy. Her response was no one can fix the economy, Obama is cool and Republicans are evil. She admits the economy sucks, but it doesn’t matter.

    Heard the same thing…nobody knows the truth when it comes to obama..his mis-handling of Benghazi…no one knows the truth…his mishandling of the economy…the evil Republicans fault…and bad press about obama…nobody could know that!!!! Or it’s the Republicans fault. It gets old quick.


  71. buzzsawmonkey
    71 | January 9, 2013 4:28 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I remember when you could make spaghetti, salad, and garlic bread, and call it a dinner party.

    You still can—but now it’s locally-made pasta, sustainably-grown organic arugula, and artisanal bread with organically-grown roasted garlic to spread on it…


  72. Da_Beerfreak
    72 | January 9, 2013 4:28 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the lure of cilantro?

    Is that a new processor from INTEL??


  73. Lily
    73 | January 9, 2013 4:31 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the lure of cilantro?

    The herb??


  74. eaglesoars
    74 | January 9, 2013 4:32 pm

    Hilda Solis, Sec Labor, announced her resignation.

    Don’t let the door………..


  75. yenta-fada
    75 | January 9, 2013 4:33 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    I remember when you could make spaghetti, salad, and garlic bread, and call it a dinner party.
    You still can—but now it’s locally-made pasta, sustainably-grown organic arugula, and artisanal bread with organically-grown roasted garlic to spread on it…

    :-) And the vegan won’t eat pasta because of the eggs, and the gluten intolerant can’t have the bread either. We seemed to have refined ourselves to extinction. /


  76. lobo91
    76 | January 9, 2013 4:34 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Hilda Solis, Sec Labor, announced her resignation.

    Don’t let the door………..

    No kidding


  77. Lily
    77 | January 9, 2013 4:36 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    I am so glad I didn’t buy into that crap. You know you are well fed and not lacking food when you get that picky. I really get annoyed with the vegan’s who sit up on their high horses and look down upon you for eating an egg or cheese. Good grief. People spend waaaaaaaaaay tooo much time picking out their food if you ask me.


  78. 78 | January 9, 2013 4:37 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Wow. I thought all that lying about the unemployment rate in the runup to the election would have insured she’d keep her job. I wonder if there are some plans in the House to delve into the jobless situation in the U.S. and she wants to bid a hasty retreat before the subpoenas go out.

    Hmmm….Hildebeest, Panetta, Solis, all running for the door. But the most oppressive attorney general in history stays on….


  79. 79 | January 9, 2013 4:38 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    And that explains why I never ever invite them to my house. If they’re that anti-meat, they can graze on my front lawn while the rest of us eat real food inside.


  80. buzzsawmonkey
    80 | January 9, 2013 4:38 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Hmmm….Hildebeest, Panetta, Solis, all running for the door. But the most oppressive attorney general in history stays on….

    They need to ensure that their expatriate villas are in order so as to have someplace to flee. Holder’s got an undated pardon in his pocket and a ticket on the last plane out, but he wants to play the revanchist game a little longer.


  81. Lily
    81 | January 9, 2013 4:39 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Makes you wonder doesn’t it? So many running for the door can’t get away from the obama administration quick enough. The AG is one nasty piece of work too…I agree…yet he stays on. Wonder what’s keeping him there? I’m sure he knows where all the dirt is and is staying on to keep it hidden.


  82. waldensianspirit
    82 | January 9, 2013 4:41 pm

    It’s funny how Obama’s crowd thinks the First Amendment applies to the whole world as long as the speechifier is singing their song


  83. buzzsawmonkey
    83 | January 9, 2013 4:41 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Wonder what’s keeping him there?

    The Meerkat is an even angrier racist that Mr. and Mrs. Obama are. He wants to stick to the US a little more before he jets for the Caymans.


  84. 84 | January 9, 2013 4:42 pm

    @ Lily:

    Obama approval rating is up to the mid 50′s. He can do what he wnats at this point.


  85. 85 | January 9, 2013 4:42 pm

    Lily wrote:

    I really get annoyed with the vegan’s who sit up on their high horses and look down upon you for eating an egg or cheese.

    Mmm..eggs…cheese….BACON! I need an omelet!!


  86. Lily
    86 | January 9, 2013 4:43 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    It’s funny how Obama’s crowd thinks the First Amendment applies to the whole world as long as the speechifier is singing their song

    Well obama does think “for me but not for thee” kinda of way. He also acts that way too.


  87. 87 | January 9, 2013 4:43 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Hildebeest stating she’ll testify about Benghazi in two weeks. I imagine it will take her that long to book passage on some tramp steamer bound for Shanghai….


  88. Lily
    88 | January 9, 2013 4:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Obama approval rating is up to the mid 50′s. He can do what he wnats at this point.

    It makes me rather sick that this rogue president continues to be rogue and NO ONE DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. The man could kill puppies on live TV and he still would have high ratings.


  89. yenta-fada
    89 | January 9, 2013 4:46 pm

    From the comments at Michellesmirror:

    I met a fairy who said she would grant me one wish.
    Immediately I said, “I want to live forever.”
    “Sorry,” said the fairy, “I’m not allowed to grant eternal life.”
    “OK,” I said, “Then, I want to die after Congress gets its head out of its ass!”
    “You crafty bastard,” said the fairy.


  90. Lily
    90 | January 9, 2013 4:46 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Wonder what’s keeping him there?
    The Meerkat is an even angrier racist that Mr. and Mrs. Obama are. He wants to stick to the US a little more before he jets for the Caymans.

    That does explain it and I have to agree he’s even more angry than who he works for.


  91. yenta-fada
    91 | January 9, 2013 4:48 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    And that explains why I never ever invite them to my house. If they’re that anti-meat, they can graze on my front lawn while the rest of us eat real food inside.

    LOL. Get many guests?


  92. Lily
    92 | January 9, 2013 4:48 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    I really get annoyed with the vegan’s who sit up on their high horses and look down upon you for eating an egg or cheese.
    Mmm..eggs…cheese….BACON! I need an omelet!!

    LOL! Now bacon would really piss them off. Good work! 8-)


  93. 93 | January 9, 2013 4:48 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    And the vegan won’t eat pasta because of the eggs, and the gluten intolerant can’t have the bread either. We seemed to have refined ourselves to extinction.

    You forgot “Free Trade Coffee” (whatever the &*%# that is!), and don’t get me started on “organic”. I was in Kroger the other day buying some potatoes for baking and they had “organic” potatoes -- good gawd, they were nasty looking things!

    I be needing me some pesticides and some preservatives, some of this “no preservatives’ crap goes bad before I have a chance to eat it! Geez, I can’t go to the store every friggin’ day!


  94. 94 | January 9, 2013 4:51 pm

    Lily wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    I really get annoyed with the vegan’s who sit up on their high horses and look down upon you for eating an egg or cheese.
    Mmm..eggs…cheese….BACON! I need an omelet!!

    LOL! Now bacon would really piss them off. Good work!

    I make a wicked omelet! While my wife was recovering from her knee replacement, she developed quite an omelet habit.

    Which reminds me, how’s the recovery going?


  95. Lily
    95 | January 9, 2013 4:52 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    And the vegan won’t eat pasta because of the eggs, and the gluten intolerant can’t have the bread either. We seemed to have refined ourselves to extinction.
    You forgot “Free Trade Coffee” (whatever the &*%# that is!), and don’t get me started on “organic”. I was in Kroger the other day buying some potatoes for baking and they had “organic” potatoes — good gawd, they were nasty looking things!
    I be needing me some pesticides and some preservatives, some of this “no preservatives’ crap goes bad before I have a chance to eat it! Geez, I can’t go to the store every friggin’ day!

    You forgot to mention organic is over priced too. It’s only for the people who can afford it…not the little minions. Whether I can afford it or not I don’t buy the organic on principal…not to mention if there is going to be a E.Coli outbreak it is going to happen with the organic foods to boot.


  96. Lily
    96 | January 9, 2013 4:54 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    MacDuff wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    I really get annoyed with the vegan’s who sit up on their high horses and look down upon you for eating an egg or cheese.
    Mmm..eggs…cheese….BACON! I need an omelet!!
    LOL! Now bacon would really piss them off. Good work!
    I make a wicked omelet! While my wife was recovering from her knee replacement, she developed quite an omelet habit.
    Which reminds me, how’s the recovery going?

    I’m doing okay. Next week I start cardio rehab. Still a bit sore but hanging in there. Not as sore as when I first got home for sure. This is one heck of a surgery to recover from ….wowzers! ;)


  97. Da_Beerfreak
    97 | January 9, 2013 4:57 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    And the vegan won’t eat pasta because of the eggs, and the gluten intolerant can’t have the bread either. We seemed to have refined ourselves to extinction.

    You forgot “Free Trade Coffee” (whatever the &*%# that is!), and don’t get me started on “organic”. I was in Kroger the other day buying some potatoes for baking and they had “organic” potatoes — good gawd, they were nasty looking things!

    I be needing me some pesticides and some preservatives, some of this “no preservatives’ crap goes bad before I have a chance to eat it! Geez, I can’t go to the store every friggin’ day!

    “organic” is another way of saying over priced, grown in shit, bug covered crap. At least it is in my dictionary. :mrgreen:


  98. Lily
    98 | January 9, 2013 4:59 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Yep!


  99. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | January 9, 2013 5:00 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    “organic” is another way of saying over priced, grown in shit, bug covered crap. At least it is in my dictionary.

    The best organic food song ever.


  100. 100 | January 9, 2013 5:00 pm

    @ Lily:

    The man could kill puppies on live TV and he still would have high ratings.

    Yup, he can do anything. It’s great having no opposition.


  101. Da_Beerfreak
    101 | January 9, 2013 5:01 pm

    @ Lily:
    Glad to hear things are going well for you. :wink:


  102. 102 | January 9, 2013 5:02 pm

    About that “Free Trade Coffee BS……

    Fair trade coffee refers to the purchasing of coffee from the growers with better conditions for workers at a higher price than standard coffee.

    So, I guess that means the really poor people are really screwed because they can’t even find a crappy low paying job!

    Another example of liberal unexpected consequences.


  103. yenta-fada
    103 | January 9, 2013 5:02 pm

    From what I’m reading, Jack Lew, the pick for Treasury Sec. is a straight up insider. (of course) He used to deal in derivatives at Citibank. Those toxic derivatives insure that nobody can ever balance a budget again because they are bets placed in amounts of money that nobody has ever heard of. e.g. Quadrillion.


  104. Lily
    104 | January 9, 2013 5:02 pm

    WOW! A liberal movie liberal’s are not happy about who would have friggered. Oh wait…the movie maker put in torture to get the information about bin laden…and these fools take the movie as the honest truth….really?

    Liberals In Desperate Need Of A Life Protest Bin Laden Movie “Zero Dark Thirty” In Orange Jumpsuits, Bags On Their Heads

    The debate surrounding the American military’s use of torture has followed the theatrical version of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden — and that continued right through the film’s Washington, D.C., premiere.

    As soon as director Kathryn Bigelow walked onto the red carpet inside the Newseum where her film “Zero Dark Thirty” was being shown on Tuesday, about thirty anti-torture protestors stood just steps away from her.

    They dressed as prisoners of war, wearing orange jumpsuits and their faces covered in black fabric, similar to the terrorists depicted in Bigelow’s film. Event staff covered the Newseum’s windows with black fabric so that they wouldn’t distract from the red carpet.

    Straight from Hollywood and onto Capitol Hill, the film has reignited the contentious torture debate. In one scene, a prisoner is waterboarded by CIA agents. In another, agents cram that same prisoner into water-cooler sized crate and later force him to walk like a dog.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/09/liberals-in-desperate-need-of-a-life-protest-bin-laden-movie-zero-dark-thirty-in-orange-jumpsuits-bags-on-their-heads/


  105. Da_Beerfreak
    105 | January 9, 2013 5:04 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Too bad Tom Lehrer hasn’t done one on organic foods. :mrgreen:


  106. 106 | January 9, 2013 5:05 pm

    @ Lily:

    I’m so happy to hear you’re doing better. Just keep on keeping on and pu that stuff in your era view mirror as quickly as possible!


  107. eaglesoars
    107 | January 9, 2013 5:06 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I thought all that lying about the unemployment rate in the runup to the election would have insured she’d keep her job.

    It guarantees her a higher paying job w/the SEIU is my guess.


  108. 108 | January 9, 2013 5:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Liberals In Desperate Need Of A Life Protest Bin Laden Movie “Zero Dark Thirty” In Orange Jumpsuits, Bags On Their Heads

    Cool, they’re all pre-packaged for Guantanamo, put ‘em on the first flight out!


  109. Lily
    109 | January 9, 2013 5:08 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Oh I’m very, very lucky! I have to admit. I had very good doctors and my husband is taking very good care of me. Really I should not be alive. Way too many veins were 100% blocked. Someone’s looking out for me I suppose there is still something I need to do. My only explanation. ;)


  110. Lily
    110 | January 9, 2013 5:10 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Yep it’s getting further and further away. Saw one of my doc’s yesterday..now rehab is going to occur. I’m still very sore. Not looking too forward to it. But it’s the way it goes. ;)


  111. Lily
    111 | January 9, 2013 5:11 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Liberals In Desperate Need Of A Life Protest Bin Laden Movie “Zero Dark Thirty” In Orange Jumpsuits, Bags On Their Heads
    Cool, they’re all pre-packaged for Guantanamo, put ‘em on the first flight out!

    They would probably like the place or be shocked at how nice it is. From what I hear it sounds like a resort kind of.


  112. AZfederalist
    112 | January 9, 2013 5:12 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    Nature abhors a vacuum.

    Obama = vacuum …

    Yes, he definitely sucks.


  113. eaglesoars
    113 | January 9, 2013 5:12 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    they had “organic” potatoes — good gawd, they were nasty looking things!

    Hubby helped write the organic regs and was the lobbiest for one of the tread associations. What people don’t understand -- and why I won’t buy organic if I can possibly help it -- is that the rule of thumb is it takes 3 times the land to grow organic to get the equivalent yield of non-organic. That’s 3 times the water and 3 times the energy -- manual or machine -- to care for the soil. I’m a bug about water usage. If people understood the water issues here and paid what it should cost their hair would fall outfrom the shock.


  114. AZfederalist
    114 | January 9, 2013 5:14 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the lure of cilantro?

    Darned if I know. Mrs Federalist love it. I think it has a”flat” taste.


  115. Lily
    115 | January 9, 2013 5:17 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Another reason not to buy organic. Excatly when will people come to their senses again? Now it matters how gentle we are with our potatoes. Good grief. 3 times the work, 3 times the water and 3 three times the land = doesn’t make a damn bit of sense.


  116. 116 | January 9, 2013 5:17 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Hubby helped write the organic regs and was the lobbiest for one of the tread associations. What people don’t understand — and why I won’t buy organic if I can possibly help it — is that the rule of thumb is it takes 3 times the land to grow organic to get the equivalent yield of non-organic. That’s 3 times the water and 3 times the energy — manual or machine — to care for the soil. I’m a bug about water usage. If people understood the water issues here and paid what it should cost their hair would fall out from
    the shock.

    Interesting. I’ve never heard that, but it sounds about right -- those ol’ unintended consequences again!

    You live out west? I’m always thankful to live in a water-plentiful state (KY).


  117. Lily
    117 | January 9, 2013 5:20 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I live where there is plenty of water! In fact there is lot’s of water falling from the sky right now! ;)


  118. Lily
    118 | January 9, 2013 5:21 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    Nature abhors a vacuum.
    Obama = vacuum …
    Yes, he definitely sucks.

    Indeed, but apparently only some people notice it. Why? Is another mystery.


  119. buzzsawmonkey
    119 | January 9, 2013 5:21 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Hubby helped write the organic regs and was the lobbiest for one of the tread associations. What people don’t understand — and why I won’t buy organic if I can possibly help it — is that the rule of thumb is it takes 3 times the land to grow organic to get the equivalent yield of non-organic. That’s 3 times the water and 3 times the energy — manual or machine — to care for the soil. I’m a bug about water usage. If people understood the water issues here and paid what it should cost their hair would fall outfrom the shock.

    Plus, more labor-intensive, to avoid using machinery; lower yields, because more is lost to pests without insecticides; more toxic, because “non-chemical fertilzer” = shit, so greater risk of salmonella and other illnesses if the stuff isn’t thoroughly washed. All of which contributes to expense.

    There is a reason that pesticides and chemical fertilizers were invented and became widely used; they did a better job.


  120. lobo91
    120 | January 9, 2013 5:21 pm

    NY Dem Gov. Cuomo Vows To “Enact The Toughest Assault Weapon Ban In The Nation, Period!”…

    One of the most hotly-anticipated elements of Governor Andrew Cuomo’s annual State of the State address today was his plan to enact “sweeping” gun control reforms in New York. In his speech, the governor outlined a seven-point gun control plan focused on “high capacity assault rifles” that he promised would be one of the “toughest” in that nation and lead similar laws to spread beyond New York.

    “Gun violence has been on a rampage as we know firsthand and as we know painfully,” said the governor. “We must stop the madness, my friends. In one word it’s just ‘enough.’ It has been enough. We need a gun policy in this state that is reasonable, that is balanced, that is measured.”

    The governor continued by saying his gun control proposals are not about “taking away people’s guns.”

    As he has in the past, the governor tried to boost his credibility on the issue by emphasizing the fact he is a gun owner.

    “We respect hunters and sportsmen. This is not taking away peoples’ guns,” Mr. Cuomo said. ”I own a gun. I own a Remington shotgun. I’ve hunted, I’ve shot. That’s not what this is about. It’s about ending the unnecessary risk of high-capacity assault rifles. That’s what this is about.” [...]

    To that end, the governor outlined the items on his seven-point gun plan.

    “Number 1: Enact the toughest assault weapon ban in the nation, period!” he shouted, before ticking off his other new gun control proposals. “Number two, close the private sale loophole by requiring federal background checks. Number three, ban high-capacity magazines. Number four, enact tougher penalties for illegal gun use, guns in school grounds and violent gangs. Number five, keep guns from people who are mentally ill. Number six, ban direct internet sales of ammunition in New York. Number seven, create a state [National Instant Criminal Background Check System] check on all ammunition purchases.”

    I like the way he starts off by saying that “This is not about taking away peoples’ guns” and then begins his “plan” by talking about taking away peoples’ guns.


  121. lobo91
    121 | January 9, 2013 5:23 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    I live where there is plenty of water! In fact there is lot’s of water falling from the sky right now!

    There’s apparently so much water in Virginia that the EPA is trying to declare it a pollutant.


  122. Lily
    122 | January 9, 2013 5:26 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    Hubby helped write the organic regs and was the lobbiest for one of the tread associations. What people don’t understand — and why I won’t buy organic if I can possibly help it — is that the rule of thumb is it takes 3 times the land to grow organic to get the equivalent yield of non-organic. That’s 3 times the water and 3 times the energy — manual or machine — to care for the soil. I’m a bug about water usage. If people understood the water issues here and paid what it should cost their hair would fall outfrom the shock.
    Plus, more labor-intensive, to avoid using machinery; lower yields, because more is lost to pests without insecticides; more toxic, because “non-chemical fertilzer” = shit, so greater risk of salmonella and other illnesses if the stuff isn’t thoroughly washed. All of which contributes to expense.
    There is a reason that pesticides and chemical fertilizers were invented and became widely used; they did a better job.

    Excatly. E.Coli outbreaks come from “organic” foods …no thanks.


  123. 123 | January 9, 2013 5:27 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    And the damned dolphin-free tuna tastes like crap! :D


  124. Lily
    124 | January 9, 2013 5:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ MacDuff:
    I live where there is plenty of water! In fact there is lot’s of water falling from the sky right now!
    There’s apparently so much water in Virginia that the EPA is trying to declare it a pollutant.

    Really?? I mean at this point nothing would surprise me. ;)


  125. lobo91
    125 | January 9, 2013 5:29 pm

    Dem Sen. Richard Blumenthal Wants Law To Mandate Background Checks For Ammo Sales…

    Another senseless shooting is giving gun control supporters another example to point to as they make their case in their quest for gun law changes on a national level. But with the recent shooting in Norwich, mental health is also being called into question. [...]

    U.S. Sen. Richard Blumenthal said he wants legislation that would require instant background checks for the sale of gun ammunition. He is expected to take up the proposal once Congress reconvenes.

    “They can be done in 30 seconds,” he said. “The vast majority are, and they would prevent people who should not have ammunition or firearms from actually buying it.”

    30 seconds? Umm…currently, background checks for gun purchases are running in excess of 9 days, and this would presumably take just as long.

    And who’s going to pay for these checks? Are you planning to add a fee to ammunition purchases to cover it?


  126. 126 | January 9, 2013 5:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Excatly. E.Coli outbreaks come from “organic” foods …no thanks.

    E Coli-flower, it’s what’s for dinner!


  127. lobo91
    127 | January 9, 2013 5:32 pm

    Bill Clinton Attempts To Give Tech Speech, Quickly Devolves Into Anti-Gun Rant…

    Just when you thought CES couldn’t get any randomer than Qualcomm’s “Generation Mobile” atrocity, guess who showed up? Bill Clinton, who stopped by to speak in the middle ofSamsung president Stephen Woo’s presentation. Not only that, but according to CNET’s liveblog, in the midst of his remarks he digressed and started talking about gun control. [...]

    And yes, he did start out on the topic of technology: ”On the day I took the oath of office, a grand total of 50 sites on the entire Internet,” he opened, before tacking toward the reason for his presence in Las Vegas, reminding everyone that poor countries need tech for things other than Evernote-integrated fridges.

    That’s when he started to drift. CNET says Mr. Clinton started talking about bad things that’ve happened all over the world, but like a record hitting a scratch, he got hung up on ”unjustifiable neglect of gun safety”:

    Clinton talking about gun control and the death rate in the U.S. compared to other countries. “I grew up in this hunting culture, but this is nuts,” Clinton says. “Why does anybody need a 30-round clip for a gun?” Half of all deaths have occurred since the assault weapons ban expired, Clinton offers.


  128. AZfederalist
    128 | January 9, 2013 5:33 pm

    @ lobo91:

    What is frusttrating in all this is the fact that all of this “rampage of violence” he is talking about has occurred in “gun-free” zones that were implemented by liberal idiots like Cuomo and his fellow travellers. They thus created a free-fire zone for deranged people and now, in order to fix the problem they caused are now trying to expand the unarmed victim zones instead of fixing the problems they have caused by diaarming law abiding citizens.

    … and the MSM will not do anything to bring this up as a point of debate.

    Pravda and Izhvestia are more reliable than our own “free” media.


  129. 129 | January 9, 2013 5:34 pm

    @ lobo91:

    All these sombitches got the fever, don’t they?


  130. lobo91
    130 | January 9, 2013 5:35 pm

    @ Lily:

    Federal judge rules EPA overstepped authority trying to regulate water as pollutant in Virginia

    Virginia officials scored a key victory Thursday in their battle with the Environmental Protection Agency over what EPA critics describe as a land takeover.

    U.S. District Judge Liam O’Grady in Alexandria ruled late Thursday that the EPA exceeded its authority by attempting to regulate stormwater runoff into a Fairfax County creek as a pollutant. O’Grady sided with the Virginia Department of Transportation and the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors, which challenged EPA’s stormwater restrictions

    “Stormwater runoff is not a pollutant, so EPA is not authorized to regulate it,” O’Grady said.

    Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli says the ruling could ultimately save Virginia taxpayers more than $300 million.

    An EPA spokesman could not be reached for comment after business hours.


  131. 131 | January 9, 2013 5:36 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    What is frusttrating in all this is the fact that all of this “rampage of violence” he is talking about has occurred in “gun-free” zones that were implemented by liberal idiots like Cuomo and his fellow travellers. They thus created a free-fire zone for deranged people and now, in order to fix the problem they caused are now trying to expand the unarmed victim zones instead of fixing the problems they have caused by diaarming law abiding citizens.

    … and the MSM will not do anything to bring this up as a point of debate.

    Pravda and Izhvestia are more reliable than our own “free” media.

    All your damned facts are just muddying the clear waters of rampant authoritarian statism!


  132. eaglesoars
    132 | January 9, 2013 5:36 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    You live out west?

    Nope. Virginia. But you’re right -- the water wars at the moment are out west and the Colorado river is being drained.

    Lily wrote:

    E.Coli outbreaks come from “organic” foods

    This is a misunderstanding. As a matter of fact, I’ve just recovered by an E. coli infection from non-organic spinach.

    Pesticides will not prevent E. coli. E. coli comes from fecal matter, often from wild animals in the fields. The only way to kill it is irradiation or cooking. Not even bleach gets rid of it.


  133. Lily
    133 | January 9, 2013 5:36 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    LOL! ;)


  134. lobo91
    134 | January 9, 2013 5:37 pm

    @ AZfederalist:

    What is frusttrating in all this is the fact that all of this “rampage of violence” he is talking about has occurred in “gun-free” zones that were implemented by liberal idiots like Cuomo and his fellow travellers.

    The other frustrating thing is that the entire issue is completely distorted by the media.

    You wouldn’t know it by listening to them, but the number of people killed using guns has been steadily declining for at least the past 30 years, while the number of guns has probably doubled.


  135. AZfederalist
    135 | January 9, 2013 5:37 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Hopefully some attendees bood and walked out.


  136. 136 | January 9, 2013 5:39 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Gubment stupid is the worst kind of stupid because there’s so damned much of it!


  137. lobo91
    137 | January 9, 2013 5:39 pm

    Oh, good…the case of ammo I ordered just showed up by UPS.

    //Screw you, Cuomo


  138. 138 | January 9, 2013 5:40 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Yes, except a significant portion of the populace hasn’t seen their first paychecks of the year yet. And frankly, his popularity was in the 90′s at this point of his first election. I’ll concede that to the government giveaway and libturd media crowd, he’s still the Sun King. However, 7,000,000 fewer votes tells me the bloom is off the rose with a LOT of people. Enough to make them vote GOP? No, probably not. But enough to know the guy is not what he appears to be.


  139. AZfederalist
    139 | January 9, 2013 5:40 pm

    @ AZfederalist:

    Should be “booed”. I think


  140. eaglesoars
    140 | January 9, 2013 5:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Virginia officials scored a key victory Thursday in their battle with the Environmental Protection Agency over what EPA critics describe as a land takeover.

    That was the most blatant attempt to impose Agenda 21 I’ve seen in awhile. The EPA would have evicted people from their homes, destroyed the homes and made the state plant grasses.


  141. yenta-fada
    141 | January 9, 2013 5:41 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:
    You live out west?
    Nope. Virginia. But you’re right — the water wars at the moment are out west and the Colorado river is being drained.
    Lily wrote:
    E.Coli outbreaks come from “organic” foods
    This is a misunderstanding. As a matter of fact, I’ve just recovered by an E. coli infection from non-organic spinach.
    Pesticides will not prevent E. coli. E. coli comes from fecal matter, often from wild animals in the fields. The only way to kill it is irradiation or cooking. Not even bleach gets rid of it.

    Hmmmm. So much for that ‘healthy’ veggie juice! awk.


  142. 142 | January 9, 2013 5:41 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    The only way to kill it is irradiation or cooking.

    Irradiation is another great idea for food preservation that the Luddite Left effectively killed.


  143. Lily
    143 | January 9, 2013 5:44 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Cooking usually kills all of that nasty stuff. Sorry to hear you got that through the spinach. That had to have been rough. My sympathies to you there. Hope you are all better now! :)
    /yes I know any type of raw food can come into contact with fecal matter…it just seems it happens more often with organic. But I really should have been more clear…any raw food can carry it. Thanks for correcting me. ;)


  144. Lily
    144 | January 9, 2013 5:47 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Good grief …. I had a feeling you weren’t kidding. So they are going to regulate everything now????????? Or at least try? Thankfully they weren’t able to get that regulation through.


  145. buzzsawmonkey
    145 | January 9, 2013 5:48 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Irradiation is another great idea for food preservation that the Luddite Left effectively killed.

    Let us not forget that along with “gun-free zones,” the Left has created “nuclear-free zones.”

    Every one of these “nuclear-free zones” is chock-full of nuclear material—because all the buildings therein have smoke detectors, and smoke detectors use americium (a radioactive nuclear waste) to operate. Most Lefties do not know this.


  146. 146 | January 9, 2013 5:48 pm

    My, what a lovely dinner-time discussion we’re having! :|


  147. Lily
    147 | January 9, 2013 5:49 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Virginia officials scored a key victory Thursday in their battle with the Environmental Protection Agency over what EPA critics describe as a land takeover.
    That was the most blatant attempt to impose Agenda 21 I’ve seen in awhile. The EPA would have evicted people from their homes, destroyed the homes and made the state plant grasses.

    Well of course because plants and grasses are so much more important than people!!!


  148. 148 | January 9, 2013 5:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    The liberal dream; sitting in the dark, eating shit-stained spinach, drinking over-priced coffee and descending on the social and natural food chain because they’re vehemently anti-weapon.


  149. lobo91
    149 | January 9, 2013 5:56 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    The liberal dream; sitting in the dark, eating shit-stained spinach, drinking over-priced coffee and descending on the social and natural food chain because they’re vehemently anti-weapon.

    But they still want their iPads.


  150. 150 | January 9, 2013 5:58 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Every one of these “nuclear-free zones” is chock-full of nuclear material—because all the buildings therein have smoke detectors, and smoke detectors use americium (a radioactive nuclear waste) to operate. Most Lefties do not know this.

    When that “Nuclear-Free Zone” cps no nuclear crap was all the rage, there were these round “”Nuclear-Free Zone” signs all over downtown Louisville. It was odd, because, to my knowledge, downtown Louisville contains no nuclear weapons, or power plants. Never has. I guess the signs were just to reassure us of that fact? ;)


  151. darkwords
    151 | January 9, 2013 6:02 pm

    @ 125 lobo91: None of that is effective except as a method to remove gun rights from a law abiding citizen.

    NRA: Alinsky the term gun rights = human rights. Argue about it with people. Get stuck on the definitions.

    Alinsky gun consciousness versus gun control. Which is better? Control the framing of the argument. Point out all these emotional reactors in government as true idiots who will be ineffective.

    There was a news conference here yesterday. The anti gun people have gathered up all he living mayors and police chiefs of the city to meet, discuss, and implement a campaign designed to disable the state laws that prevent cities from making gun control laws. Don’t get Romney/McCain fooled NRA. There is a vast coordinated campaign behind this effort. Social media makes it easy.


  152. 152 | January 9, 2013 6:03 pm

    Lefy Reifenstahl is at it again:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/09/michael-moore-supporters-of-ronald-reagan-and-pope-john-paul-ii-are-responsible-for-the-deaths-thousands-of-people-because-of-their-bigotry/#disqus_thread

    Now people died from AIDS because of Reagan and the Pope. Not because they wouldn’t head the warnings of Don Francis of the CDC, or the blood banks didn’t give a crap. Right -- Reagan was supposed to write a blank check for research because the special snowflakes of the gay community wouldn’t police themselves once they learned what was wrong and what they could do about it.


  153. yenta-fada
    153 | January 9, 2013 6:03 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    Every one of these “nuclear-free zones” is chock-full of nuclear material—because all the buildings therein have smoke detectors, and smoke detectors use americium (a radioactive nuclear waste) to operate. Most Lefties do not know this.
    When that “Nuclear-Free Zone” cps no nuclear crap was all the rage, there were these round “”Nuclear-Free Zone” signs all over downtown Louisville. It was odd, because, to my knowledge, downtown Louisville contains no nuclear weapons, or power plants. Never has. I guess the signs were just to reassure us of that fact?

    See, the signs worked! :-)


  154. eaglesoars
    154 | January 9, 2013 6:03 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Irradiation is another great idea for food preservation that the Luddite Left effectively killed.

    Funny story. When the organic regs were finally passed, we all went out to celebrate at Nora’s, a well-known organic restaurant in D.C. I asked the idiot woman sitting next to me why irradiation was precluded by the regs. Hubby was sitting directly across the table from me. So, the woman sez, “Because, you know, it’s radiation!”

    I gave Hubby my evil “watch this!” grin and said “So is sunlight”. Hubby basically crawled across the table, pulled up a chair between us and changed the subject.

    There is a reason, tho, why food, even non-organic is not irradiated. It changes the color and the texture of the food in such a way consumers would find unappetizing.


  155. 155 | January 9, 2013 6:04 pm

    @ darkwords:

    I wonder how Dick’s Sporting Goods is faring with the public now that they caved to the libturd lobby.


  156. yenta-fada
    156 | January 9, 2013 6:09 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    You were probably even sober at the time. Your hubby needs a “I’m with
    a$$kicker” t-shirt. lol


  157. Da_Beerfreak
    157 | January 9, 2013 6:13 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Virginia officials scored a key victory Thursday in their battle with the Environmental Protection Agency over what EPA critics describe as a land takeover.

    That was the most blatant attempt to impose Agenda 21 I’ve seen in awhile. The EPA would have evicted people from their homes, destroyed the homes and made the state plant grasses.

    You are very fortunate to be living in a State that will fight the Trolls from DC Town.


  158. 158 | January 9, 2013 6:13 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    There is a reason, tho, why food, even non-organic is not irradiated. It changes the color and the texture of the food in such a way consumers would find unappetizing.

    Didn’t know that. There was a local dairy years ago (70s?) that sold non-refrigerated irradiated milk in heavy plastic bags, I always thought that was a very cool idea.


  159. eaglesoars
    159 | January 9, 2013 6:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    :evil:


  160. eaglesoars
    160 | January 9, 2013 6:15 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    You are very fortunate to be living in a State that will fight the Trolls from DC Town.

    Don’t kid yourself. It’s not the state, it’s the Attorney General, Ken Cuccenelli. He’s running for governor -- against Terry McCauliff -- and they’re tied.


  161. yenta-fada
    161 | January 9, 2013 6:16 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    {{{eaglesoars}}}


  162. 162 | January 9, 2013 6:16 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ darkwords:

    I wonder how Dick’s Sporting Goods is faring with the public now that they caved to the libturd lobby.

    To paraphrase the old Crusader said in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade -- “They chose…poorly”.


  163. eaglesoars
    163 | January 9, 2013 6:18 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    I always thought that was a very cool idea.

    Ever wonder why you don’t see it anymore? Part of it is that American consumers are convinced if milk isn’t refigerated, it will spoil. The other part is that the stuff tasted like crap.


  164. darkwords
    164 | January 9, 2013 6:18 pm

    The men watch, the woman disarms future state of the American liberal male.


  165. lobo91
    165 | January 9, 2013 6:19 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Don’t kid yourself. It’s not the state, it’s the Attorney General, Ken Cuccenelli. He’s running for governor — against Terry McCauliff — and they’re tied.

    What a scumbag.

    I met him at a seminar once. I needed a shower afterwards.

    And I kept one hand on my wallet the whole time he was in the room.


  166. lobo91
    166 | January 9, 2013 6:20 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    I always thought that was a very cool idea.

    Ever wonder why you don’t see it anymore? Part of it is that American consumers are convinced if milk isn’t refigerated, it will spoil. The other part is that the stuff tasted like crap.

    You see it all over the place in other parts of the world, though.


  167. yenta-fada
    167 | January 9, 2013 6:20 pm

    They just make this stuff up because they can. Bill Clinton named “Father of the Year”

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/click/2013/01/bill-clinton-named-father-of-the-year-153760.html


  168. buzzsawmonkey
    168 | January 9, 2013 6:20 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Now people died from AIDS because of Reagan and the Pope. Not because they wouldn’t head the warnings of Don Francis of the CDC, or the blood banks didn’t give a crap. Right — Reagan was supposed to write a blank check for research because the special snowflakes of the gay community wouldn’t police themselves once they learned what was wrong and what they could do about it.

    AIDS was exploited by the gay-rights movement to make “gay” hip and take the movement mainstream.

    The movement was moribund in the mid-80s when AIDS first appeared; the movement used the utterly useless ACT-UP demonstrations to radicalize a post-60s homosexual generation and create a new community built around “health and support.”

    In the meantime, the movement fought against closing the major pestholes, the bathhouses and backroom bars which encouraged promiscuous anonymous sex. To close them was “destroying gay culture” and “the first steps to quarantine and marching gays to concentration camps.” Leaving them open was “an opportunity for safe-sex education.”

    In the event, probably tens of thousands were infected and died horribly as a result of this political activity—but the Red Ribbon became the darling accessory of Hollywood, and it set the stage for the same-sex marriage assault on the First and Tenth Amendments.


  169. Brick
    169 | January 9, 2013 6:21 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ darkwords:
    I wonder how Dick’s Sporting Goods is faring with the public now that they caved to the libturd lobby.

    I’m sure the sales of ice skates and mittens will more than make up for any lost revenues they might suffer. Er…maybe not. :)


  170. huckfunn
    170 | January 9, 2013 6:22 pm

    Chuck Hagel agrees (in AlJazeera interview) that America is the world’s bully.


  171. buzzsawmonkey
    171 | January 9, 2013 6:22 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Ever wonder why you don’t see it anymore? Part of it is that American consumers are convinced if milk isn’t refigerated, it will spoil. The other part is that the stuff tasted like crap.

    As opposed to the pale-blue water that is passed off as 2% or fat-free milk, which would taste better if it tasted like crap…


  172. 172 | January 9, 2013 6:22 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Ever wonder why you don’t see it anymore? Part of it is that American consumers are convinced if milk isn’t refigerated, it will spoil. The other part is that the stuff tasted like crap.

    Really? Surely to God we can irradiate something! :o (besides Muslims, of course)


  173. Da_Beerfreak
    173 | January 9, 2013 6:23 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Not kidding myself at all. I currently live in a State where all the top offices are held by bought and paid for Soros/ACORN Obamabots. :evil:

    Does the name Al Franken ring any bells….


  174. eaglesoars
    174 | January 9, 2013 6:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    You see it all over the place in other parts of the world, though.

    I understand it’s quite common in Italy.

    When Hubby -- who was born and raised on a dairy farm and farmed himself for years -- tasted it -- he thought it tasted ‘chalky’.


  175. 175 | January 9, 2013 6:25 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Perhaps we could irradiate the actual cows…burgers and milkshakes that’ll last into the next century!


  176. lobo91
    176 | January 9, 2013 6:26 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    It’s all I ever bought in Kuwait.


  177. song_and_dance_man
    177 | January 9, 2013 6:26 pm

    Why not a 17 Trillion dollar coin? Then we would have a surplus.

    /un-dons a Great Gazoo sized tin foil helmet


  178. eaglesoars
    178 | January 9, 2013 6:27 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Surely to God we can irradiate something!

    I’ve had irradiated beef. It was a bit mushy -- I guess that’s the right word. Taste was fine, texture not so much.


  179. eaglesoars
    179 | January 9, 2013 6:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    It’s all I ever bought in Kuwait.

    Which makes perfect sense. Culturally, they are accustomed to warm milk from goats, camels, etc. And refridgeration is a very recent commodity in those parts and not available in many areas.


  180. eaglesoars
    180 | January 9, 2013 6:31 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Does the name Al Franken ring any bells….

    WHERE did he get that money? ALL of it from Soros?


  181. waldensianspirit
    181 | January 9, 2013 6:33 pm

    Put milk in a viscometer at room temperature and like clock work it changes in 8 hours…


  182. song_and_dance_man
    182 | January 9, 2013 6:35 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Culturally, they are accustomed to warm milk from goats, camels, etc.

    I had milk from a cow before. It was in the 60′s when I was a kid. I was taken to my cousins cousin farm where everything we ate was from the land.


  183. Da_Beerfreak
    183 | January 9, 2013 6:36 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    I don’t know if it all came from Soros Inc., but there is a hell of a lot of it around here. :evil:


  184. yenta-fada
    184 | January 9, 2013 6:40 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Sorry. I thought “a$$kicker” was a compliment! Honest.


  185. eaglesoars
    185 | January 9, 2013 6:44 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    I had milk from a cow before.

    Every month I’d say we get about 5 calls asking if we know where raw milk can legally be obtained. We won’t refer them. Hubby said it IS delicious, but illness from unpasterized stuff can be deadly. He won’t even tolerate apple cider that hasn’t been thru the process.

    Lately we’ve been getiing calls for goat milk. We’ve been referring them to their state agriculture depts.


  186. eaglesoars
    186 | January 9, 2013 6:46 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:

    Sorry. I thought “a$$kicker” was a compliment! Honest.

    It IS!! It IS!!

    Hubby laughed and laughed all the way home. He thought it was hilarious but asked me to please, in the future, TRY TO REMEMBER WHO IS WRITING THE CHECK m’kay?


  187. buzzsawmonkey
    187 | January 9, 2013 6:48 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Every month I’d say we get about 5 calls asking if we know where raw milk can legally be obtained. We won’t refer them. Hubby said it IS delicious, but illness from unpasterized stuff can be deadly. He won’t even tolerate apple cider that hasn’t been thru the process.

    Which is why Pasteur invented the process in the first place—though he actually produced the process for wine.


  188. 188 | January 9, 2013 6:51 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    San Francisco’s spineless Director of Public Health did everything BUT work for the good of the public health. Don Francis was so damn angry over the decision not to close the bath houses. Also the decision by the blood banks not to test.


  189. waldensianspirit
    189 | January 9, 2013 6:55 pm

    When they don’t follow Pasteur’s procedure closely and scorch the milk it tastes horrible!


  190. song_and_dance_man
    190 | January 9, 2013 6:57 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Hubby said it IS delicious

    The milk I had was OK. And very rich, foamy and kinda yellowish.


  191. eaglesoars
    191 | January 9, 2013 6:58 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    salmonella, E. coli, and my personal fave, listeria.

    Any of ‘em can kill ya.


  192. 192 | January 9, 2013 7:02 pm

    I’ve seen a few references to a ‘negative income tax’. Thoughts?

    Just contacted my Congressmen, suggesting as a mentioned last night, that they publicly announce the income level that would have to be taxed at 100% (with a 50% business tax rate) to pay for all this insane spending. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of response I get, if any.


  193. heysoos
    193 | January 9, 2013 7:02 pm

    my favorite is raw coconut milk…down in Jamaica, you pick one off the ground, chop the end of and preso!….instant, natural energy drink


  194. 194 | January 9, 2013 7:04 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    Damn it, I’ve got to start getting these posts in earlier in a thread!


  195. lobo91
    195 | January 9, 2013 7:05 pm

    @ mfhorn:

    I’ve seen a few references to a ‘negative income tax’. Thoughts?

    We basically have that now. It’s called the Earned Income Tax Credit.


  196. waldensianspirit
    196 | January 9, 2013 7:11 pm

    Someone needs to explain to Piers Morgan the Pilgrims left England because of oppression from his type of governance(English law, the 1559 Act of Uniformity) which disarmed them to make them defenseless. They got on little wooden ‘cups’ and sailed out in the huge Atlantic to get away from his likes. Now he’s back trying to oppress again


  197. heysoos
    197 | January 9, 2013 7:16 pm

    Morgan is a product of our AmIdol culture…if he was a hunchback midget, nobody would pay ant attention to him at all…everybody is an expert on everything


  198. 198 | January 9, 2013 7:16 pm

    New Thread.


  199. Da_Beerfreak
    199 | January 9, 2013 7:16 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Someone needs to explain to Piers Morgan the Pilgrims left England because of oppression from his type of governance(English law, the 1559 Act of Uniformity) which disarmed them to make them defenseless. They got on little wooden ‘cups’ and sailed out in the huge Atlantic to get away from his likes. Now he’s back trying to oppress again

    Europeons just don’t understand that the United States really are the anti-Europe.


  200. buzzsawmonkey
    200 | January 9, 2013 7:18 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    San Francisco’s spineless Director of Public Health did everything BUT work for the good of the public health. Don Francis was so damn angry over the decision not to close the bath houses. Also the decision by the blood banks not to test.

    The focusing on Reagan by the ACT-UP crowd was an Alinsky tactic to get the gay community onto the Democrat plantation by painting the Republicans as “homophobic,” using Reagan as the personalized figure to hate.

    It was an expansion of the tactics used in Dade County against Anita Bryant in the late ’70s, which was a dry run for such behavior on a national level.


  201. 201 | January 9, 2013 7:21 pm

    One thing Boehner can do is ditch the metrosexual pink ties. No wonder Обама has his way with the Speaker!


  202. AZfederalist
    202 | January 9, 2013 7:25 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    That’s what frustrates me there are so many places that they could go that already have those policies. They want to bring those policies here. They should just go to one of those countries and leave those of us who want to be free the one country in the world that doesn’t infringe our rights.


  203. eaglesoars
    203 | January 9, 2013 7:27 pm

    Rob Parker, the commentator who created controversy when he questioned whether Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is a “cornball brother” because he has a white fiancee

    what does ‘cornball brother’ mean and what does it have to do with a white fiance?

    (gah, I’m SO caucasian…)


  204. eaglesoars
    204 | January 9, 2013 7:28 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    oopsie, wrong thread!


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