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Egypt’s president demands the release of the “Blind Sheikh” from the first World Trade Center bombing

by Speranza ( 125 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Barack Obama, Egypt, Islamic Terrorism, Islamists, Jihad, Muslim Brotherhood at January 10th, 2013 - 7:00 am

The execrable president of Egypt, Mohammad Morsi will be visiting the White House soon (do not expect Obama to give  him “the Netanyahu treatment”) and he has made clear that as we approach the 20th anniversary of the first World Trade Center bombing (Feb. 28), he will demand the release of Sheik  Obmar Abdel Rahman aka “the blind Sheikh”.  I would not be surprised if Obama does so on “humanitarian grounds”.

by Matthew Boyle

The new chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee is urging President Barack Obama to stand strong against new demands from Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi. Morsi is calling for the release of convicted terrorist Omar Abdul Rahman.

“I urge the Obama administration to stand firm against pleas from Egypt to free Omar Abdel Rahman,” Texas Republican Rep. Michael McCaul, the new chairman of the powerful House committee, said in a Tuesday statement. “Releasing a terrorist who plotted against the United States and has American blood on his hands would be seen as a sign of weakness throughout the Muslim extremist world and will only serve to embolden our enemies who continue to plot against us.”

[......]

Abdul Rahman, better known as the “Blind Sheikh,” is serving a life sentence in U.S. prison for his role in the 1993 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center. In that attack, six people were killed and hundreds were injured after a truck bomb was set off in the building’s garage.

Throughout September, reports surfaced that the Obama administration may consider releasing the Blind Sheikh into Egyptian custody. House Republican leaders – including eight powerful committee chairs – stepped up to voice their opposition to a potential transfer.

That prompted Obama administration agencies – including the Justice Department, National Security Council and State Department – to deny reports that they were considering transferring the Blind Sheikh.

“The blind sheik is going to serve out his life sentence,” National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said in September, for instance. “There are no discussions about transferring him.  [......]

Those public denials from the Obama administration haven’t stopped Egypt from lobbying for the Blind Sheikh’s release, and haven’t quelled worries from many in the national security community. Andrew C. McCarthy, the former Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York who’s perhaps best known for successfully prosecuting the Blind Sheikh, predicted in September that the plan was always to release the Blind Sheikh after the November presidential election whether Obama won or lost.

“I think the plan has been to agree to the Blind Sheikh’s release, but not to announce it or have it become public until after the election,” McCarthy said then. “That is consistent with Obama’s pattern of trying to mollify Islamists. [.......].”

Now that the election is over, Morsi is publicly pushing Obama to release the Blind Sheikh. In an interview with CNN that aired Monday, the Egyptian leader said he’s planning a March 2013 trip to the United States during which he’ll pressure Obama on the issue.

“I want him to be free,” Morsi said of the Blind Sheikh, adding that he “respect[s] the law. And the rule of law in Egypt and the United States.”

Morsi said that if Obama won’t free the Blind Sheikh, he thinks the convicted terrorist should be granted visitation rights with his family.

“Is there a chance for him to be freed? I wish this,”  [......] “Egypt’s relationship with America deserves that these issues be reviewed, if that is okay according to the law.”

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125 Responses to “Egypt’s president demands the release of the “Blind Sheikh” from the first World Trade Center bombing”
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  1. 1 | January 10, 2013 7:22 am

    It’ll be interesting to se what Obama does. I am sure he want to release this “holy” man, but politics may prevent it. OTOH, he has been re-elected, so he has more flexibility now. That statement alone should have been enough to defeat him. The American electorate is full of the stupid.


  2. 2 | January 10, 2013 7:31 am

    Dorian will like today’s Day By Day. Stout hemp rope, indeed.


  3. 3 | January 10, 2013 7:37 am

    I wouldn’t put it past that cocksucking buttfucker who’s sitting in the Oval Office to go ahead and release Rahman.


  4. 4 | January 10, 2013 7:39 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Dorian will like today’s Day By Day. Stout hemp rope, indeed.

    I agree! Chris has been much more vocal as of late!


  5. 5 | January 10, 2013 7:45 am

    @ Macker:

    The time to speak up is before they start hauling people away to re-education camps. I have an article in the hopper that I think you’ll appreciate. I don’t know when they’ll schedule it, though. It is about my favorite passage from The Gulag Archipelago. That is a singularly depressing book. I’ve never been able to finish it. There’s only so much of people getting arrested and shot, arrested and imprisoned, and so forth that I can tolerate. It is a very important historical record of Stalin’s rule, but it is certainly not light reading.


  6. Da_Beerfreak
    6 | January 10, 2013 7:49 am

    I’m willing to bet that Obama will release the “Blind Sheikh”. He’ll use the SOB’s declining health as a humanitarian reason for letting him go free. Only the heartless bastards the bitter clingers would be opposed to letting an old man go home to die.

    Expect jugears to create a new problem or make an old one worse everyday for the rest of his term. This is his inner Nero in action, setting everything he can reach on fire.


  7. Da_Beerfreak
    7 | January 10, 2013 7:57 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    I have read most of Solzhenitsyn’s books and look forward to your upcoming thread.


  8. 8 | January 10, 2013 8:32 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    He’ll do it if John McCain and Lindsey Graham give him cover.


  9. 9 | January 10, 2013 8:32 am

    Today’s highlights include Slow Joe meeting with the NRA representative. I’d love to see video of that one…


  10. 10 | January 10, 2013 8:37 am

    @ Rodan:

    If that’s the case, it is a done deal. McCain and Miss Lindsey want to prop up the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt more than they want to fight terrorism. Releasing the Blind Sheik would be another mile marker on the road to dhimmitude. I am sure Obama wants to do it.


  11. coldwarrior
    11 | January 10, 2013 8:48 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Only the heartless bastards the bitter clingers would be opposed to letting an old man go home to die.

    this OBC sez let him rot.

    O B C !!!

    (place hip gang signs here)


  12. Da_Beerfreak
    12 | January 10, 2013 8:54 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Only the heartless bastards the bitter clingers would be opposed to letting an old man go home to die.

    this OBC sez let him rot.

    O B C !!!

    (place hip gang signs here)

    An easy way to solve this problem is to shot the POS first and then send the body to Egypt with a note asking if there are any other prisoners they want released…


  13. unclassifiable
    13 | January 10, 2013 8:55 am

    Forgive me but as an OT posting I would like to suggest the following as a topic for discussion on another thread:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/08/are-raising-generation-deluded-narcissists/

    Sorry for the interruption.


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | January 10, 2013 8:57 am

    No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer—gov kumo.

    that’s right, gov. we dont.


  15. eaglesoars
    15 | January 10, 2013 8:58 am

    Another way it could be done is for Egypt to agree to imprison him in Egypt -- and then when everyone has forgotten about it, free him on humanitarian grounds to his family.


  16. unclassifiable
    16 | January 10, 2013 8:59 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Oh that’s easy.

    It’s the sign of the crossed double pistols.


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | January 10, 2013 8:59 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    An easy way to solve this problem is to shot the POS first and then send the body to Egypt with a note asking if there are any other prisoners they want released…

    i like that


  18. Speranza
    18 | January 10, 2013 9:00 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    It’ll be interesting to se what Obama does. I am sure he want to release this “holy” man, but politics may prevent it. OTOH, he has been re-elected, so he has more flexibility now. That statement alone should have been enough to defeat him. The American electorate is full of the stupid.

    If Obama had his way he would be immediately released. However I think that would be too much even for the Obamabots.


  19. 19 | January 10, 2013 9:01 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    If that’s the case, it is a done deal. McCain and Miss Lindsey want to prop up the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt more than they want to fight terrorism. Releasing the Blind Sheik would be another mile marker on the road to dhimmitude. I am sure Obama wants to do it.

    I predict it will happen.


  20. 20 | January 10, 2013 9:01 am

    @ Speranza:

    If McCain and his gal pal give Obama cover, all bets are off.


  21. Speranza
    21 | January 10, 2013 9:01 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Another way it could be done is for Egypt to agree to imprison him in Egypt — and then when everyone has forgotten about it, free him on humanitarian grounds to his family.

    Like that guy the Scots released to Libya who was involved in the Lockerbie bombing.


  22. 22 | January 10, 2013 9:02 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Self-defense isn’t about killing deer. Every time they whip out that blather, we need to remind them that the Supreme Court has found that we have a right to armed self-defense. That is what is at the core of this debte. Liberals want us helpless in the face of the criminals that they lobby to get light sentances and get out of prison. Objectively, Liberals are pro-criminal.


  23. Speranza
    23 | January 10, 2013 9:02 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    If McCain and his gal pal give Obama cover, all bets are off.

    I doubt that even McCain would agree to that.


  24. 24 | January 10, 2013 9:02 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer—gov kumo.
    that’s right, gov. we dont.

    Cuomo also killed Fracking, despite a study saying it’s feesible to do. He’s planninmg on a 2016 run so he’s going Hard Left now.


  25. 25 | January 10, 2013 9:03 am

    @ Speranza:

    This is McCain we are talking about. He’s an open supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood. Don’t rule anything out.


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | January 10, 2013 9:04 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    kumo might have just destroyed any national chances he had


  27. 27 | January 10, 2013 9:05 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Progressives know that the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. They want a disarmed populace so they can implement their Totalitarian regime.


  28. Speranza
    28 | January 10, 2013 9:05 am

    File this under the category of “I kid you not”
    Bill Clinton to receive father of the year award Monica Lewinsky unavailable for comment.


  29. citizen_q
    29 | January 10, 2013 9:05 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer—gov kumo.
    that’s right, gov. we dont.

    Have you ever looked at the amount of ammo expended on many police shootings? Most of the time against only a single criminal.

    I don’t have stats, but often in the news there would be a hew and cry by the criminal’s family and other “supporter” about how many times the police fired their weapons and how many times the criminal was hit. The hit percentage was usually rather low. This by hopefully trained police usually at close range.


  30. 30 | January 10, 2013 9:05 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    kumo might have just destroyed any national chances he had

    He’s not getting the Dem nod anyway. That’s reserved for Deval Patrick.


  31. Speranza
    31 | January 10, 2013 9:06 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    This is McCain we are talking about. He’s an open supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood. Don’t rule anything out.

    I don’t think that even he would go that far. Six Americans were killed in the first WTC bombing.


  32. 32 | January 10, 2013 9:06 am

    Speranza wrote:

    File this under the category of “I kid you not”
    Bill Clinton to receive father of the year award Monica Lewinsky unavailable for comment.

    :lol:

    I thought it was an onion piece!


  33. Speranza
    33 | January 10, 2013 9:06 am

    Rodan wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Iron Fist:
    kumo might have just destroyed any national chances he had
    He’s not getting the Dem nod anyway. That’s reserved for Deval Patrick.

    Deval Patrick or Martin O’Malley. Hillary is history and looks like shit anyway.


  34. eaglesoars
    34 | January 10, 2013 9:06 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Like that guy the Scots released to Libya who was involved in the Lockerbie bombing.

    Yes. Who, as far as I know, is way past his dead-in-3-months due date.


  35. Speranza
    35 | January 10, 2013 9:07 am

    Rodan wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer—gov kumo.
    that’s right, gov. we dont.
    Cuomo also killed Fracking, despite a study saying it’s feesible to do. He’s planninmg on a 2016 run so he’s going Hard Left now.

    Andrew Cuomo looks and sounds like he belongs in the first Godfather movie.


  36. Speranza
    36 | January 10, 2013 9:08 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Like that guy the Scots released to Libya who was involved in the Lockerbie bombing.

    Yes. Who, as far as I know, is way past his dead-in-3-months due date.

    Actually I think he died last year but that was past his due date.


  37. coldwarrior
    37 | January 10, 2013 9:08 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    Have you ever looked at the amount of ammo expended on many police shootings? Most of the time against only a single criminal.

    cops dont impress me.

    (was an MP)


  38. 38 | January 10, 2013 9:09 am

    @ Speranza:

    The Dem ticket will be Patrick/O’Malley or O’Malley/Patrick.


  39. 39 | January 10, 2013 9:10 am

    @ eaglesoars:
    I think he did eventually die, but it took him a couple of years. Time spent in comfort, as a hero of the Jihad. No way we should release the Blind Sheik, but you know Obama wants to do it just to spit in Amerrica’s face. He’d release Khalid Sheik Mohammed if he wasn’t afraid even the Secret Service would revolt.


  40. 40 | January 10, 2013 9:11 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ Speranza:
    @ eaglesoars:
    @ Iron Fist:

    Look at how the media spins rising unemployment claims!

    Weekly applications for U.S. unemployment benefits ticked up slightly last week, the latest sign of stability in the job market.

    The Labor Department said Thursday that applications rose 4,000 to a seasonally adjusted 371,000, the most in five weeks. The previous week’s total was revised lower.

    The four-week average, a less volatile measure, increased 6,750 to 365,750, after falling to a four-year low the previous week.

    A department spokesman says all states reported data and none were estimated. In the previous two weeks, the department relied heavily on estimates because many states weren’t able to report data over the holidays.

    The figures “continue to suggest steady but modest U.S. employment gains,” Robert Kavcic, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets, said in a note to clients. “That said, claims stubbornly refuse to break below the … range that has been in place for the past year.”


  41. citizen_q
    41 | January 10, 2013 9:12 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    When talking with others I also add that the nature of man and the nature of governments have not changed.


  42. coldwarrior
    42 | January 10, 2013 9:12 am

    Rodan wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Iron Fist:
    kumo might have just destroyed any national chances he had
    He’s not getting the Dem nod anyway. That’s reserved for Deval Patrick.

    another racial hire


  43. Guggi
    43 | January 10, 2013 9:12 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Hillary is history and looks like shit anyway.

    Plastic surgery can do a lot.


  44. coldwarrior
    44 | January 10, 2013 9:12 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Like that guy the Scots released to Libya who was involved in the Lockerbie bombing.
    Yes. Who, as far as I know, is way past his dead-in-3-months due date.

    yet not a peep from us.


  45. Da_Beerfreak
    45 | January 10, 2013 9:17 am

    @ Speranza:
    … bumps in the road ….

    … just bumps in the road ….


  46. citizen_q
    46 | January 10, 2013 9:17 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    That was not quite my point.

    In life and death situations it is difficult to hit your adversary, ego the need for larger capacity magazines. Irrespective of them deciding what I need when exercising my rights.

    I would also point that these ignorant people are making tactical decisions for me for which they have no expertise.


  47. 47 | January 10, 2013 9:17 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    When you do not have a serious opposition party, you can do what you please.


  48. coldwarrior
    48 | January 10, 2013 9:21 am

    @ citizen_q:

    sure. true.

    and cops still dont impress me


  49. 49 | January 10, 2013 9:21 am

    @ Rodan:

    Gun control is, as I said yesterday, about political control, not crime control. That is why no matter how many studies you come up with showing that guns reduce crime, the Left want gun control nonetheless. They don’t mind Chicago’s high murder rate. Indeed, I think that they want the high crime rates. Just as with their economic policies, you need to look at the results of their policies. Everywhere Democrat policies on crime have been enacted, crime has skyrocketed. Yet they want to take these policies nationwide. They are getting the results that they want.


  50. coldwarrior
    50 | January 10, 2013 9:21 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    When you do not have a serious opposition party, you can do what you please.

    aint that the truth.


  51. 51 | January 10, 2013 9:21 am

    Christie getting praised from the Left.


  52. 52 | January 10, 2013 9:22 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    They don’t mind Chicago’s high murder rate. Indeed, I think that they want the high crime rates.

    They need to crime to have a police state appratus.


  53. citizen_q
    53 | January 10, 2013 9:23 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    ego

    LOL

    PIMF ego should be ergo


  54. coldwarrior
    54 | January 10, 2013 9:24 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    ego
    LOL
    PIMF ego should be ergo

    cops

    ego


  55. 55 | January 10, 2013 9:25 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    The Democrats can announce tommorow they are banning certain cars and nothing will stop themn. We live in a One Party Nation now.


  56. 56 | January 10, 2013 9:25 am

    @ Rodan:

    And noticehow since Waco it has been the Left pushing the militarization of the police. Even the Department of Education has a tactical unit. What for? I’ve never heard an answer to that question. Government entities with no real police power having tactical teams? Stormtroopers for the Reich is what they are. People who’ll pull a trigger and never ask why.


  57. coldwarrior
    57 | January 10, 2013 9:28 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    And noticehow since Waco it has been the Left pushing the militarization of the police.

    and the gop


  58. coldwarrior
    58 | January 10, 2013 9:29 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    i love seeing our lard ass local flunkies in tacticals.

    i have actually laughed in their faces.


  59. eaglesoars
    59 | January 10, 2013 9:31 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Look at how the media spins rising unemployment claims!

    That’s hilarious. One sentence directly contradicts a previous sentence.

    In the previous two weeks, the department relied heavily on estimates because many states weren’t able to report data over the holidays.

    contradicts

    The four-week average, a less volatile measure, increased 6,750 to 365,750, after falling to a four-year low the previous week.

    Yeah, I guess if you’re missing some data, your numbers are going to be lower.

    So the Lockerbie guy finally died? Sorry I missed it -- could have raised a glass to his arrival in Hell


  60. 60 | January 10, 2013 9:31 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    People who’ll pull a trigger and never ask why.

    Goons for hire.

    Yup, the Progressives have been creating this Fascist police infrastructure fior the last 20 years. To be fair, Many Republicans also supported this as well in the name of law and order. But we can make an argument that these Republicans are Leftists. But your point is spot on.

    This is why the Obama Regime does not back Pot legalization. It opens the door for the end of the war on drugs. There is a huge Law Enforcement-Legal Industrial Complex.


  61. 61 | January 10, 2013 9:32 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    The GOP uses Law and Order as the pretetx for their police state.


  62. 62 | January 10, 2013 9:32 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    This really feels like a dictatorship. The media lies and makes up facts.


  63. 64 | January 10, 2013 9:38 am

    @ Rodan:

    Yes, the War on Drugs has been a massive failure, and led to the loss of freedom not merely for the people incarcerated for drug crimes but for the population at large. And yes, both parties have participated in it. It is funny how the Left doesn’t object to moral crusades when they further Leftist aims.


  64. 65 | January 10, 2013 9:38 am

    1389AD wrote:

    O/T:
    http://www.14news.com/story/20538537/trail-of-cheetos-leads-to-mans-arrest

    Must be an LGFer


  65. Da_Beerfreak
    66 | January 10, 2013 9:41 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    The Democrats can announce tommorow they are banning certain cars and nothing will stop themn. We live in a One Party Nation now.

    Two Parties in name only….


  66. eaglesoars
    67 | January 10, 2013 9:42 am

    Rodan wrote:

    This really feels like a dictatorship

    Could it be because it really IS?

    Nah.


  67. rain of lead
    68 | January 10, 2013 9:42 am

    well, got my 1st paycheck of 2013
    it’s about 30 bucks lighter

    could have been worse i suppose

    :-(


  68. EBL
    69 | January 10, 2013 9:42 am

    President Obama: Don’t Do It!


  69. 70 | January 10, 2013 9:43 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The war on drugs is a sham. It’s an excuse for a police state and loss of personal freedom.


  70. 71 | January 10, 2013 9:44 am

    @ Rodan:

    Well we know it can’t be Charles. He would have had to leave the house.


  71. 72 | January 10, 2013 9:45 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Yup, I have concluded the GOP is just a strawman. Look at foreign policy, except for stances on Israel, there’s no difference. Both support this Global Community garbage and do the bidding of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    It’s a sham.


  72. 73 | January 10, 2013 9:45 am

    mskelly wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Well we know it can’t be Charles. He would have had to leave the house.

    He can’t even fit through his door probably.


  73. 74 | January 10, 2013 9:46 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    It’s a soft dictatorship. Instead of secret police, they use ridicule and societal shame to achieve their aims.


  74. rain of lead
    75 | January 10, 2013 9:47 am

    @ Rodan:

    there is a phrase for that
    ummm
    two party….

    evil…

    oh yeah
    evil two-party money cult!

    thanks TFK!


  75. Da_Beerfreak
    76 | January 10, 2013 9:47 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    And noticehow since Waco it has been the Left pushing the militarization of the police. Even the Department of Education has a tactical unit. What for? I’ve never heard an answer to that question. Government entities with no real police power having tactical teams? Stormtroopers for the Reich is what they are. People who’ll pull a trigger and never ask why.

    I don’t recall which clause in the U.S. Constitution grants the Federal Government Police Powers beyond Treason, Piracy, and Counterfeiting. I thought only the States had them…


  76. coldwarrior
    77 | January 10, 2013 9:49 am

    mskelly wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Well we know it can’t be Charles. He would have had to leave the house.

    good point


  77. coldwarrior
    78 | January 10, 2013 9:49 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    It’s a soft dictatorship. Instead of secret police, they use ridicule and societal shame to achieve their aims.

    beck can be a goofy dude, but he did call this before the 2008 election


  78. eaglesoars
    79 | January 10, 2013 9:50 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Instead of secret police, they use ridicule and societal shame to achieve their aims.

    It isn’t staying there. Black boxes on our vehicles. Warrantless wire taps that don’t go thru a FISA review. Now they’re going for a national gun database.

    gonna go make some bacon and eggs. BBIAB


  79. 80 | January 10, 2013 9:50 am

    @ rain of lead:

    I am convinced the GOP is a wholly owned subsidary of the Democrats. They are perfect strawmen for the Dems. A conveninet boogeyman.


  80. 81 | January 10, 2013 9:52 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yes he did. In retrospect the GOP had no chance of beating Obama in 2012. The election was just a sham. Then again, I am convinced the national GOP is just an extension of the Democrats. Notice at the national level you have whackjobs like Bachmann or Santorum who are convenient boogeymen. Meanwhile at the State level, most Republcians are sane and actually can make sense.


  81. 82 | January 10, 2013 9:53 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    The war on Terror has been a sham as well.


  82. 83 | January 10, 2013 9:54 am

    @ Rodan:

    Speaking of that, Eric Holder on guns:

    The hot new video at MRCTV.org is 1995 footage of Attorney General Eric Holder, when he was the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia. In his remarks before the Woman’s National Democratic Club, broadcast by CSPAN 2, Holder said people should be ashamed to own guns, just the way that cigarette smokes now “cower outside of buildings” to smoke.

    “What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that it’s not acceptable, it’s not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we’ve changed our attitudes about cigarettes. You know, when I was growing up, people smoked all the time. Both my parents did. But over time, we changed the way that people thought about smoking, so now we have people who cower outside of buildings and kind of smoke in private and don’t want to admit it.” Laughter followed. (Video below)

    At the end of this clip, Holder says anti-gun ads should run every day, and we need to “really brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way.”

    Yes, freedom is so un-hip. Liberals are all about propaganda, though. They know the low information voters are susceptible to propaganda. But Hollyweird isn’t going to go along with this propaganda. There’s too much money to be made in movies that glorify gun violence.


  83. 84 | January 10, 2013 9:57 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    “really brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way.”

    He’s honest at least about his agenda.

    Take a peak at my thread for 2! :lol:


  84. 85 | January 10, 2013 10:00 am

    @ Rodan:

    I saw that. I’ve got one in the hopper. I don’t know if it’s been scheduled yet. I wrote it this morning when I couldn’t sleep. This gun control stuff has me all stressed out. They are playing with fire here, and they kno wit. They are very transparent in their motivation. This is all about power. They want absolute power in the United States. I don’t think they are going to get it, though.


  85. 86 | January 10, 2013 10:05 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    You are up at 11!


  86. 87 | January 10, 2013 10:07 am

    @ Rodan:

    Cool!


  87. Da_Beerfreak
    88 | January 10, 2013 10:08 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Jugears is looking for his “Reichstag fire” to set him free of the Constitution once and for all…


  88. 89 | January 10, 2013 10:09 am

    This may have already been mentioned (and if it has, please forgive my redundancy) but I haven’t heard “Gun Appreciation Day”, scheduled two days before the Inauguration called a “call for assassination” or some such rubbish…..yet. I thought they would jump on the opportunity! Have I missed it or something?


  89. 90 | January 10, 2013 10:09 am

    Rodan -- Levin mentioned on his show yesterday an article in Investors Business Daily regarding the deep infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood into higher and higher levels of government. I believe that the article originally appeared in an Egyptian newspaper and was translating by an anti-Islamoterror group in Washington. I can’t for some reason get in there to post a link but I wanted to draw your attention to it in case you can find a way to get it and stick it in headlines.

    Proves in many ways the points you’ve been making about not only this administration but the massive Saudi influence in previous administrations, as according to the article, they have been “sponsoring” this movement into the government for the last 25 years.


  90. Speranza
    91 | January 10, 2013 10:11 am

    Rodan wrote:

    The Dem ticket will be Patrick/O’Malley or O’Malley/Patrick.

    Two horrible governors. O’Malley is particularly awful.


  91. 92 | January 10, 2013 10:12 am

    @ MacDuff:

    The liberal media will certainly try to paint it as such, and was giving misinformation that it was a giant march on Washington and people would be bringing their guns.

    In fact, it’s scheduled for January 19th and if my information is correct, you’re supposed to show your solidarity by gathering at your local gun/sporting goods store or gun show.

    I’m thinking Dick’s Sporting Goods won’t have to worry about an unruly crowd that day.


  92. 93 | January 10, 2013 10:12 am

    @ Speranza:

    I believe he’s responsible for the increase in population in Virginia. But of course, if you believe “The Wire” it was an evil Republican governor that caused all the problems in Maryland.


  93. coldwarrior
    94 | January 10, 2013 10:13 am

    its the puti’s 4 year birthday. she gets to go

    here

    to pick out cake / cupcakes…these are the best.

    bbl


  94. 95 | January 10, 2013 10:15 am

    Holy cow -- the predicted overnight temperature for my area tonight is LOWER than Speranza’s! Rain’s in the forecast. Wow -- maybe we’ll see some snow.


  95. 96 | January 10, 2013 10:22 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Holy cow — the predicted overnight temperature for my area tonight is LOWER than Speranza’s! Rain’s in the forecast. Wow — maybe we’ll see some snow.

    The low here tonight is supposed to be 56 and the high tomorrow 66. I’m digging the global warming!!


  96. citizen_q
    97 | January 10, 2013 10:22 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    The Dem ticket will be Patrick/O’Malley or O’Malley/Patrick.
    Two horrible governors. O’Malley is particularly awful.

    We call him owe-mally, and is currently in full gun-grabber mode.

    He also recently pushed to have families with incomes over 100K defined as rich, for extra taxes to pay their “fair” share.


  97. 98 | January 10, 2013 10:25 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Rodan — Levin mentioned on his show yesterday an article in Investors Business Daily regarding the deep infiltration of the Muslim Brotherhood into higher and higher levels of government. I believe that the article originally appeared in an Egyptian newspaper and was translating by an anti-Islamoterror group in Washington. I can’t for some reason get in there to post a link but I wanted to draw your attention to it in case you can find a way to get it and stick it in headlines.
    Proves in many ways the points you’ve been making about not only this administration but the massive Saudi influence in previous administrations, as according to the article, they have been “sponsoring” this movement into the government for the last 25 years.

    Just look at US foreign policy, all we do is fight for Islamic interests. Both parties are at fault. I am glad Mark Levin is discussing this. He better prepare for the GOP Establishment to begin to isolate him.


  98. CynicalConservative
    99 | January 10, 2013 10:25 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    He also recently pushed to have families with incomes over 100K defined as rich, for extra taxes to pay their “fair” share.

    I expect the new benchmark to be… If you have income not derived from a gov’t source, you’re rich and must pay more taxes.

    /galt


  99. 100 | January 10, 2013 10:26 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Happy B-Day to her!


  100. 101 | January 10, 2013 10:27 am

    @ Speranza:

    The Democrats have no serious opposition, they will get away with it.


  101. 102 | January 10, 2013 10:28 am

    @ Rodan:

    Oh they’ve already tried -- they have Morning Schmoe attacking him and he told them outright on Monday’s show to stop calling his cell phone asking to “explain themselves.” Mark may be a little much from time to time, but he is more willing than even Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity to tackle what I call the “fringe” issues that make people uncomfortable, such as this one. If this goes viral, it will be the replacement for the “birther” issue by the left.


  102. 103 | January 10, 2013 10:28 am

    @ citizen_q:

    Like I’ve been saying, ultimately they are going to go after the Middle Class, because that’s where the money is. I think these next four years are going to be brutal. It’ll be worse in Democrat controlled states. I am reminded of Vladimir Harkonnen when he decided to put Beast Rabban over Arakis. He demanded income from the planet, and a brutal hand. That is what the Democrats have planned for us.


  103. 104 | January 10, 2013 10:29 am

    CynicalConservative wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    He also recently pushed to have families with incomes over 100K defined as rich, for extra taxes to pay their “fair” share.

    I expect the new benchmark to be… If you have income not derived from a gov’t source, you’re rich and must pay more taxes.
    /galt

    Trust me -- by the end of the year, most of us on this board will be classified as “rich.” They need the money and since the median income in the U.S. is still less than $75,000, those making over that will be defined as greedy pigs soon enough.


  104. heysoos
    105 | January 10, 2013 10:30 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The Democrats have no serious opposition, they will get away with it.

    BO is using the IRS to control business via Omamacare…that is frikken scarey…check this out

    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=718385


  105. eaglesoars
    106 | January 10, 2013 10:32 am

    Rodan wrote:

    He better prepare for the GOP Establishment to begin to isolate him.

    pfft. Levin couldn’t give a monkey’s butt. The GOP Establishment should worry about Levin eviscerating them every chance he gets -- which is 5 days a week, 3 hours a day.

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    I believe he’s responsible for the increase in population in Virginia.

    Did you know Virginia has an agency whose sole purpose is to raid businesses from high tax surrounding states? There’s an office in most VA counties. Loudon county did’t go from mostly rural to one of the wealthiest counties in the country in 12 years by sheer luck.


  106. buzzsawmonkey
    107 | January 10, 2013 10:32 am

    Before we discuss releasing the Blind Sheik, let’s give him a seeing-eye pig.


  107. 108 | January 10, 2013 10:33 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I hope he educates people on this. Too many Republcians think Nation Building and helping the Muslim Brotherhood is good. But the GOP foreign policy establishent is filled with Islamic agents. It’s a tough fight. Nation Building is the heart of today’s GOP foreign policy.


  108. buzzsawmonkey
    109 | January 10, 2013 10:34 am

    Morning Buzz Ballad post-pimp: “The New Dictatorship.”

    Going out to all you gun owners and would-be gun owners out there…


  109. 110 | January 10, 2013 10:34 am

    @ heysoos:

    That is scary.


  110. 111 | January 10, 2013 10:35 am

    New Thread.

    I brought it out early.


  111. eaglesoars
    112 | January 10, 2013 10:36 am

    heysoos wrote:

    that is frikken scarey

    And entirely predictable


  112. Speranza
    113 | January 10, 2013 10:41 am

    Rodan wrote:

    New Thread.
    I brought it out early.

    Why?


  113. 114 | January 10, 2013 10:42 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    And it’s no coincidence that Mark Levin lives in Loudin County -- we hear about their taxes and the migration all the time on his show.

    By the way, apropos of nothing, Mark’s podcast if FREE and if you have iTunes you can download it every day after 7:00 p.m. -- it’s always a nice thing to listen to on my way to work in the a.m. since the driver of casual carpool usually has that effing NPR or other libturd talking point station on in his car.


  114. Guggi
    115 | January 10, 2013 10:42 am

    heysoos wrote:

    BO is using the IRS to control business via Omamacare…that is frikken scarey…check this out
    http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=718385

    This is what they are doing in most European countries. You can’t escape -- they have closed every loophole even at the prize of jobs.

    Although health insurance in Austria is mandatory -- we have about two dozend of them and the government dictates which you have to attend -- the health insurance is NOT a company but an unincorporated association. They have as much power as the internal revenue office to inspect your business and can close your business if they find -- in their view -- irregular practices.


  115. Speranza
    116 | January 10, 2013 10:43 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I believe he’s responsible for the increase in population in Virginia. But of course, if you believe “The Wire” it was an evil Republican governor that caused all the problems in Maryland.

    That “evil” Republican governor handed Martin O’Malley an budget surplus of $2 billion.


  116. 117 | January 10, 2013 10:45 am

    @ Speranza:

    This thread has been up since 7 and broke 100.


  117. 118 | January 10, 2013 10:46 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And it’s no coincidence that Mark Levin lives in Loudin County

    Uh, Loudoun County…


  118. 119 | January 10, 2013 10:51 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Spelling -- not my strong suit until my SECOND cup of Peet’s (or Starbucks, whichever gift card I’m using at the moment).

    Hee.


  119. Da_Beerfreak
    120 | January 10, 2013 11:21 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Mike C.:

    Spelling — not my strong suit until my SECOND cup of Peet’s (or Starbucks, whichever gift card I’m using at the moment).

    Hee.

    Speslling is hi-ly ober rwated…


  120. 121 | January 10, 2013 11:23 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Gun control is, as I said yesterday, about political control, not crime control. That is why no matter how many studies you come up with showing that guns reduce crime, the Left want gun control nonetheless. They don’t mind Chicago’s high murder rate. Indeed, I think that they want the high crime rates. Just as with their economic policies, you need to look at the results of their policies. Everywhere Democrat policies on crime have been enacted, crime has skyrocketed. Yet they want to take these policies nationwide. They are getting the results that they want.

    GMTA.
    coldwarrior wrote:

    mskelly wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    Well we know it can’t be Charles. He would have had to leave the house.

    good point

    I’ve always hated Cheetos, long before I ever heard of CJ. Never bought any in my life. Don’t eat ‘em if they’re in a bowl someplace. They don’t even LOOK like food to me.


  121. Alberta Oil Peon
    122 | January 10, 2013 12:17 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Hillary is history and looks like shit anyway.
    Plastic surgery can do a lot.

    But Hillary with 40″ tits is still Hillary. Epic fail.


  122. Alberta Oil Peon
    123 | January 10, 2013 12:25 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Before we discuss releasing the Blind Sheik, let’s give him a seeing-eye pig.

    Why not try an operation to restore his vision by transplanting pig’s eyeballs into his head? Of course, he might get a nasty dose of MRSA, and croak, but the effort should be made.


  123. The Osprey
    124 | January 10, 2013 2:29 pm

    Isn’t that guy the worlds first Islamist blues musician? Blind Mellow Jihad, or something like that?

    Where’s our walking blues encyclopedia when we need him?


  124. 125 | January 10, 2013 6:56 pm

    I say release the Blind Sheikh.

    From 20,000 feet, with no parachute. And with 5 strips of bacon & his… best friend sewed in his mouth.


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