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Oh That Pesky Second Amendment!

by Flyovercountry ( 170 Comments › )
Filed under Uncategorized at January 11th, 2013 - 7:00 am
Political Cartoons by Steve Kelley

So now that it has been made obvious to the Marxists this nation unfortunately elected to run things for another four years that they will not be able to get their weapons confiscation schemes through the legislative process, they have settled on a different tactic. We are about to be visited by our good friend, executive fiat, once again. These clowns acting in a lawless manner should surprise no one, as it is what they’ve been up to for the better part of four years now. Many of them are no longer hiding the fact that they view our founding documents as a nuisance, openly calling for our Constitution to be discarded, and rendered obsolete. While it is true that our Judicial Branch is responsible for keeping an eye on these particular types of infringements against our Constitutional rights, those particular cogs of our system of checks and balances move ever so slowly.

So, let’s take a look at the central issue here, that particular bit of our Constitution that is going to be circumvented with this maneuver.

The Second Amendment to our Constitution:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of
a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
shall not be infringed

When campaigning for his boss in 2008, Joe Biden promised in Pennsylvania that his boss, “better not come after my guns.” We go through this every four years, where the Democrats try to convince us that they have no intentions of infringing themselves upon our right to both keep and bear arms. There has been much debate about how that Amendment should be read, and it is truly a Rorschach test for political leanings. Never mind that the people who wrote the document, and more specifically the guy who wrote that particular Amendment, George Mason, took great pains to explain exactly its meaning, somehow, comma placement and the phrase, “well regulated militia,’ seems to have clouded the issue for that half of our population with a reading comprehension problem that can only be attributed to an Ivy League or public school indoctrination.

George Mason on the Second Amendment:

To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.

James Madison, the man who wrote the Constitution and submitted it for ratification by those who wanted to form our little republic, believed the first 8 Amendments to be extraneous. His argument was that since the specific authority to do those things guarded against with the Bill of Rights was not granted, then of course our government could never do them. That was why the 9th and 10th Amendments were written and included in the document as a whole. He wanted to make it impossible for the government to ascribe itself any more power than our national agreement granted.

For the leftists who might read this, when I purchase a weapon, it will not be because I wish to go hunting. It will not be because I wish to form a militia. It will not be because I want to go target shooting. It will be none of your business why I may or may not purchase that or anything else. It is my right to do so, and to do it privately. I do not need a reason. I may not even have a reason. Just be thankful that shooting busy bodies is illegal.

As for the idiots that published the maps that showed the locations of homeowners possessing hand guns and such, were I not a gun owner living in that neighborhood, I would be even angrier that you did something so stupid. For you see now, every criminal in that area now knows who can defend themselves, and who is, “easy pickins.” You have done more to increase gun violence in America than any one else possibly could have.

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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  1. 1 | January 11, 2013 7:41 am

    Both crime and murder are down by nearly half in the last 20 years, while gun ownership is up by half, yet the liberals are frantic to enact sweeping gun restrictions as though impending doom will surely consume us if it’s not done immediately.

    The fervor with which they are selling “gun control” of late should give even non- gun owning “moderates” pause.

    Even if one discounts that this is part of a pernicious and wide-ranging conspiracy on the Left to “disarm and oppress”, It’s hard to discount that it’s about authoritarianism, and that every left-of-center politician in the country is eaten up with it.

    They’re not trying to save us, they’re trying to control us, whether it be in the form of guns, french fries, big gulps, or Vicodin in emergency rooms and that’s quite pernicious enough for me, thank you.


  2. 2 | January 11, 2013 7:48 am

    His argument was that since the specific authority to do those things guarded against with the Bill of Rights was not granted, then of course our government could never do them.

    James Madison was clearly wrong. As we’ve seen with guns, just because the government is expressly forbidden to do something doesn’t mean that it won’t still do something. It has been nearly 80 years since the NFA was passed under FDR. The gun controllers are like rust. Thy never sleep, and they work by increments. The NFA was the start of it, and if you take the Second Amendment seriously, the NFA is a significant infringement on our right to keep and bear arms. By allowing so-called “reasonable” gun control measures to stand without challenge, we simply have sped the time to which unreasonable measures would be demanded. If we had a decent Supreme Court that would reat the Second Amendment with at least as much respect as the unenumerated “right” to an abortion, we wouldn’t have any of this nonsense going on. As I’ve been saying, gun controllers are anti-civil rights as surely as if they were screaming “Segregation Forever!” They need to be treated as such.


  3. 3 | January 11, 2013 7:54 am

    The left paints Conservatives with the ‘homophobe’ or ‘Islamophobe’ brush for any disagreement with either group.

    Would it work as well to paint the left with the brush of being ‘hoplophobes‘?


  4. 4 | January 11, 2013 7:56 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Since the Constitution apparently gives the right to taxpayer funded abortions, then I think the Constitution should provide me with a taxpayer purchased .38 or .44. Plus ammo.


  5. 5 | January 11, 2013 8:07 am

    @ mfhorn:

    I’m thinking I want a taxpayer funded M-249 SAW. With a suppressor. Unregistered, of course. Registration is unconstitutional. I just wish the Supreme Court would get around to saying that. I don’t trust John Roberts any more. It is clear that we need some serious Second Amendment Jurisprudance. “Shall not be infringed” is pretty strong language. I don’t see how you get away from strict scruitney with that strong a language in the Amendment. Like I said, I just want the Second Amendment protected as much as the right to an abortion. That’d pretty much mean I could have anything I want, wouldn’t it?


  6. 6 | January 11, 2013 8:23 am

    @ MacDuff:

    It’s hard to discount that it’s about authoritarianism, and that every left-of-center politician in the country is eaten up with it.

    They’re not trying to save us, they’re trying to control us,

    That’s the end game, to create a Totalitarian state. We are almost there with a compliant media.


  7. 7 | January 11, 2013 8:24 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I don’t trust John Roberts any more.

    Same here.


  8. rain of lead
    8 | January 11, 2013 8:25 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    we need to institute a poll tax since voter fraud is so rampant.
    what?
    I don’t understand? how is a poll tax an infringment on the right to vote?

    being made to buy a gun licence dosn’t infringe on the right to own a gun, what’s your point?


  9. 9 | January 11, 2013 8:36 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Hey, we need to contact our State Senatorss and Congresscritters. Did you see what I posted yesterday about Wyoming? They are going to make it a felony crime to enforce any restrictions on semi-automatic weapons. We neeed to do the same here in Tennessee. The States are our last refuge against a usurping Federal power.


  10. 10 | January 11, 2013 8:38 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ rain of lead:
    Hey, we need to contact our State Senatorss and Congresscritters. Did you see what I posted yesterday about Wyoming? They are going to make it a felony crime to enforce any restrictions on semi-automatic weapons. We neeed to do the same here in Tennessee. The States are our last refuge against a usurping Federal power.

    Every Pro-Gun state should enact those laws.


  11. rain of lead
    11 | January 11, 2013 8:39 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    good idea
    fight back at the local level
    there is a gun show in nashville this weekend
    thinking about taking the young lady and checking it out
    need to get a few extra rounds if nothing else
    (if there is even anything in stock that I need)


  12. 12 | January 11, 2013 8:39 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    This is what I’m talking about:

    Wyoming lawmakers have proposed a new bill that, if passed, would nullify any federal restrictions on guns, threatening to jail federal agents attempting to confiscate guns, ammunition magazines or ammunition.

    The bill – HB0104 – states that “any federal law which attempts to ban a semi-automatic firearm or to limit the size of a magazine of a firearm or other limitation on firearms in this state shall be unenforceable in Wyoming.”

    The bill is sponsored by eight Wyoming state representatives ad two state senators. If passed, the bill would declare any federal gun regulation created on or after January 1, 2013 to be unenforceable within the state.

    In addition, the bill states would charge federal officials attempting to enforce a federal gun law within the state with a felony – “subject to imprisonment for not more less than one (1) year and one (1) day or more than five (5) years, a fine of not more than two thousand dollars ($2,000.00) five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), or both.”

    The bill also allows the Attorney General of Wyoming to defend a state citizen from any prosecution by the United States Government.

    That is the kind of resistance that we need to see to these laws. That and massive civil disobediance.


  13. theoutsider
    13 | January 11, 2013 8:43 am

    @ Rodan:
    So, John Roberts agreed with you on citizens united, and disagreed with you on the affordable care act. Can’t we have a non partisian court?


  14. 14 | January 11, 2013 8:45 am

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, that would send a message to Washington. I need to contact my State Senator. His name is Stacey Campfield. I think he would be very interested in bringing this kind of legislation to the floor. We have a Republican super-majority in our house and senate as well as a Republican governor. We should be able to pass this kind of law.


  15. rain of lead
    15 | January 11, 2013 8:47 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    should is very much the key word


  16. 16 | January 11, 2013 8:51 am

    Interesting. Tennessee has a Firearms Freedom act that appears to apply to suppressors. I wouldn’t really want to risk it. The Feds are real serious about suppressors. My dad had a friend that got five years federal time for an unregistered suppressor. But it is interesting that they specifically mention sound suppressors in the law. I saw someone selling a semi-suppressor at one of the gun shows a year or two ago that was manufactured in Tennessee. I guess this is how they were doing it.


  17. rain of lead
    17 | January 11, 2013 8:53 am

    punching back twice as hard

    Retaliation for gun permit disclosures continues

    When Gawker writer John Cook link-baited by publishing a two-year old list of the names of gun permit holders in New York City, Cook’s personal information was put online in retaliation.

    One of the people behind these retaliatory information disclosures, who runs a website with names, addresses, telephone numbers and photos of various journalists homes and family members, now has posted an Anonymous-style video threatening more disclosures:


  18. MikeA
    18 | January 11, 2013 8:54 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I know you are but be very careful in this. I would love an SBR with an integral suppressor but I don’t want to pay the price and don’t want to be on any federal list owning any firearms. With the current admin playing their games, being a “grey man” is the best course for now.


  19. 19 | January 11, 2013 8:54 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    So, John Roberts agreed with you on citizens united, and disagreed with you on the affordable care act. Can’t we have a non partisian court?

    John Roberts is a turncoat and he’s one of your guys now.


  20. 20 | January 11, 2013 8:55 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Same here in Florida. I will write to my state rep.


  21. 21 | January 11, 2013 8:56 am

    @ rain of lead:

    If I lived in that neighborhood and did not own a gun, I would be furious with John Cook for publishing an interactive map that showed every burglar in the country which houses were safe to break into. People who do not own guns also benefit from the Second Amendment.


  22. theoutsider
    22 | January 11, 2013 8:59 am

    @ Rodan:
    John Roberts is a conservative. He’s not on my side.


  23. 23 | January 11, 2013 8:59 am

    @ MikeA:

    Oh, I am with you. I am very careful not to violate the law. Like you, I’d like and SBR with suppressor. I consdider that to be the optimal home defense weapon. Unfortunately, the Unconstitutional NFA stands in th eway of that. The Supreme Court has previously ruled that SBRs ddn’t pose an extraordinary threat. That was before Heller. I don’t see how the SBR restriction survives if we can get a case to the Court, but I sure don’t want to be a test case.


  24. 24 | January 11, 2013 9:00 am

    @ rain of lead:

    One of the people behind these retaliatory information disclosures, who runs a website with names, addresses, telephone numbers and photos of various journalists homes and family members, now has posted an Anonymous-style video threatening more disclosures:

    I hope they keep it up!


  25. 25 | January 11, 2013 9:01 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    John Roberts is a conservative. He’s not on my side.

    He was a Conservative, but now he’s a Progressive.


  26. rain of lead
    26 | January 11, 2013 9:01 am

    @ Rodan:

    yup
    if they are outed, they may think twice


  27. 27 | January 11, 2013 9:01 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The way Roberts is now, I would not chance it. Odds are he would vote against Heller.


  28. 28 | January 11, 2013 9:02 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    yup
    if they are outed, they may think twice

    That’s hwo you fight the media.


  29. theoutsider
    29 | January 11, 2013 9:07 am

    @ Rodan:
    Roberts is a conservative. Just cause he affirmed the ACA doesn’t make him a liberal.


  30. rain of lead
    30 | January 11, 2013 9:08 am

    heh
    ya’ll seen this

    Gun Owner Map Released For Texas


  31. MikeA
    31 | January 11, 2013 9:08 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Oh yeah. Thought that same thing. Using some good amoo (i.e. hollow points, certain twist, etc..) the suppressed SBR would be perfect for home defense and other applications.

    The interesting thing about all this is its all coming to a head. The deficit, the out of control spending, the constitution being trampled, society turning into a mess, the media, etc… I still believe that this does not end well. Best to be prepared for some nasty eventualities.


  32. 32 | January 11, 2013 9:09 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Roberts is a conservative. Just cause he affirmed the ACA doesn’t make him a liberal.

    That case defines Left and Right. Roberts came down on the side of the Left. He’s a Leftist now on economic issues.


  33. rain of lead
    33 | January 11, 2013 9:09 am

    @ theoutsider:

    no not at all
    all he said was the government can do any fucking thing it wants to as long as it calls it a tax.


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | January 11, 2013 9:11 am

    Personnel from all three services are to start using new Glock pistols after a contract was awarded to replace the currently used Browning model.

    The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has signed a £9m contract to provide the Armed Forces with more than 25,000 of the new Glock 17 Gen 4 pistols.

    They replace the Browning pistol which has been used for more than 40 years but is said to have become increasingly expensive to maintain.

    send a couple of those ‘old’ browning high powers my way!

    (the glocks wont last 40 years like the borwnings did tho)


  35. 35 | January 11, 2013 9:11 am

    @ MikeA:

    Obama is now a virtual dictator. He does what he please without any serious opposition.


  36. theoutsider
    36 | January 11, 2013 9:11 am

    @ Rodan:
    Not a leftist, more of a realist.


  37. 37 | January 11, 2013 9:12 am

    @ Rodan:

    I don’t know how he would vote now. He’s going to have his chance to prove himself one way or another, though. There are a couple of cases winding their way towards the Supreme COurt on whether the Second Amendment conveys the right to carry (i.e. bear) arms. You have a 7th Circuit case where they ordered Illinois to implement some form of Shall Issue Concealed Carry law. That is pretty big. I am sure Illinois will appeal. The court might just let the 7th Circuit decision stand, though. That would be a win, but I’d like to see the Supreme Court affirm it. We have four solid votes in Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy, and Alito. Roberts should be a fifth. He was in Heller and McDonald. But I think he is scared of Obama. I don’t think he has really switched sides.


  38. 38 | January 11, 2013 9:13 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Robert is no Conservative. He’s Baby Bush’s version of Justice Soutter.


  39. 39 | January 11, 2013 9:13 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Not a leftist, more of a realist.

    If he was a realist, he would have voted down Obamacare. He’s on your side now and I saw good riddance to him.


  40. 40 | January 11, 2013 9:14 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Actually, a Glock will last 40 years. That is the thing that is so impressive about them. Glocks are nearly indestructible. Just don’t let your dog use the frame for a chew toy :P


  41. 41 | January 11, 2013 9:15 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I don’t trust Roberts. He now has the adulation of the media and DC elite. He will do whatever Obama and the Progressives want. If I were any Conservative, I would not chance any court action on guns.


  42. rain of lead
    42 | January 11, 2013 9:19 am

    oh snap
    this will cause Obama to invade Mexico

    Mexico’s Most Feared Drug Cartel has Entered the Coal Mining Business

    According to the US government, los Zetas are the most technologically advanced, sophisticated, and dangerous cartel in Mexico In the past few years they have taken control of Mexico’s Coahuila region in the north, along the border of Texas, and are now starting to thrive like never before. Los Zetas covertly entered the region, and under the threat of extreme violence for those who didn’t cooperate they swiftly brought every aspect of commerce, politics, and business under their control in less than three years.

    The state of Coahuila is rich in coal, and mining the fuel offers los Zetas a rare chance to actually make money in a legal manner, as opposed to the normal rackets of drugs and sex trafficking.

    The coal is mined through their own poorly paid workers, or bought at a low price from small miners, who are forced to sell their product. Los Zetas then resell the coal onto a state-owned company for a profit that is 30 times greater than the initial investment.

    This setup is proving hugely lucrative for los Zetas, estimated to earn them around $25 million a year. Humberto Moreira, the former governor of Coahuila, said that the practice has even become more profitable than drug running.


  43. 43 | January 11, 2013 9:19 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    You have a 7th Circuit case where they ordered Illinois to implement some form of Shall Issue Concealed Carry law.

    Well, no. They said the state had to have some provision for concealed carry by citizens. They did not say it had to be what is commonly referred to as “Shall Issue.” There are quite a few “May Issue” states, like CA. What was found unconstitutional (so far) is “No Issue”, of which IL is the sole remaining example.


  44. theoutsider
    44 | January 11, 2013 9:19 am

    @ Rodan:
    @ Rodan:
    Obamacare is the law of the land. It’s not going away.


  45. coldwarrior
    45 | January 11, 2013 9:21 am

    diversity for thee, but not for me

    The first black U.S. president is coming under fire from some of his own Democratic Party for naming a stream of white men to key cabinet and leadership posts in his second administration.

    President Barack Obama on Thursday named Jack Lew as his Treasury secretary, the fourth white male he has named to the most prized cabinet posts in recent weeks.

    Lew’s nomination follows Obama’s pick of Senator John Kerry to replace Hillary Clinton as secretary of state. He has also named former Senator Chuck Hagel to be defense Secretary and John Brennan to head the Central Intelligence Agency.

    Against this, he lost the first Hispanic woman in the cabinet when Labor Secretary Hilda Solis announced her resignation on Wednesday. And last month Lisa Jackson, who is black, announced she was stepping down as head of the Environmental Protection Agency.

    “It’s embarrassing as hell,” New York Democrat Charles Rangel, one of the most senior black members of Congress, said of the Obama appointments.

    note to low info women voters…just look at the picture, dont bother with the words. words are hard.


  46. 46 | January 11, 2013 9:22 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ Rodan:
    Obamacare is the law of the land. It’s not going away.

    Enjoy being given a pain pill instead of surgery when a panel decided it costs too much money for an operation.


  47. theoutsider
    47 | January 11, 2013 9:23 am

    @ Rodan:
    Nobody is taking any guns away. Just go through a background check, that is all anybody wants.


  48. 48 | January 11, 2013 9:23 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Republicans should use this against the Dems. But this is the GOP we are talking about. Winning is a strange concept to Republicans.


  49. Da_Beerfreak
    49 | January 11, 2013 9:23 am

    Going to be real interesting to see where this leads…
    Supreme Court to hear case on Obama’s alleged forged documents

    On Wednesday, Chief Justice John Roberts of the Supreme Court scheduled a birther case brought on by Orly Taitz which calls into question Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility to be president of the United States.

    It does not mater one bit which way the court rules, one side or the other will be real pissed.


  50. 50 | January 11, 2013 9:24 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Nobody is taking any guns away. Just go through a background check, that is all anybody wants.

    Bullshit. Andrew Cuomo talked about gun confiscation and he’s not the only Democrat.

    How would a background check have stopped the Newton shooting? Thought so.


  51. 51 | January 11, 2013 9:25 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ Rodan:
    Obamacare is the law of the land. It’s not going away.

    As is the Second Amendment, yet your side is constantly looking to whittle it away.


  52. 52 | January 11, 2013 9:25 am

    @ rain of lead:

    Hey better they get involved in legal business than illegal. I can’t knock the guy for doing this. The Italian Mafia did the same thing.


  53. coldwarrior
    53 | January 11, 2013 9:25 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ Rodan:
    Obamacare is the law of the land. It’s not going away.

    i cant wait to get people like you in my hospital. you’ll be 68 and need a hip or a knee.

    none for you, you aren’t productive anymore so the operation goes to someone who can produce. here are your pain killers and your wheelchair. no go home, crawl inside of those Oxycontins, get a good addiction and die. be sure someone brings the wheelchair back or we will charge you next of kin with theft.


  54. storagemanger
    54 | January 11, 2013 9:26 am

    Note that these examples of strong Mahdist belief are manifesting not in the heterodox, Sufi-infused “peripheries” of Islamic civilization--Senegal, say, or Indonesia--but rather in the very central regions of the old Muslim empires: Iraq, Egypt and, a bit later chronologically (thanks to the Byzantines), Turkey. This demonstrates, once again, that analysts and historians who scoff at Mahdism as a mainly marginal belief system are deluding themselves (and others).http://www.mahdiwatch.org/


  55. theoutsider
    55 | January 11, 2013 9:27 am

    @ Rodan:
    Rodan, I didn’t know you were a Sarah Palin fan. Thought you were a lot smarter.


  56. 56 | January 11, 2013 9:27 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    “Nobody is taking any guns away. Just……”

    Every Leftist gun control argument begins that same way. Every friggin’ one.


  57. storagemanger
    57 | January 11, 2013 9:28 am

    In a surprising development in Cairo, the Attorney General of Egypt, Talaat Abdallah, ordered an immediate investigation of allegations advanced by two lawyers against Muslim Brotherhood leaders. Both lawyers claim the Brotherhood received ten billion Egyptian pounds (~$1.5 billion USD) from the United States government.

    Egyptian media reports assert that the Obama Administration illegally granted the Muslim Brotherhood 10 billion Egyptian pounds. The reports also assert a reference was made by former Presidential candidate Mitt Romney confirming the Obama Administration granted the Muslim Brotherhood close to 1.5 billion USD.

    A report also refers to an interview by Egyptian social scientist and director of the Ibn Khaldoun Center, Dr. Saad Eddine Ibrahim stating that the Muslim Brotherhood have armed militias trained in the desert near Alexandria and Cairo, and near Marsa Matruh. According to this report, Dr. Ibrahim, who also holds US citizenship and is a US professor to al Watan, said the deal between Washington and the Brotherhood includes US support to the Islamist organization in return for protecting American interests in Egypt.

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/egypts-attorney-general-probes-billions-in-us-funding-to-muslim-brotherhood#ixzz2Hg38GWKX
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution


  58. coldwarrior
    58 | January 11, 2013 9:28 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Nobody is taking any guns away. Just go through a background check, that is all anybody wants.

    how about a background check for free speech? or so that you dont incur illegal search and seizure?


  59. 59 | January 11, 2013 9:29 am

    @ storagemanger:

    This proves what I have been saying. The Muslim Brotherhood is supported by the US Government. Obama and McCain are in collusion over this.


  60. 60 | January 11, 2013 9:30 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Rodan, I didn’t know you were a Sarah Palin fan. Thought you were a lot smarter.

    What is not true about the panel?


  61. theoutsider
    61 | January 11, 2013 9:30 am

    @ Rodan:
    Is Andrew Cuomo going to come in to your house, or my house, and take away guns? No fucking way.


  62. rain of lead
    62 | January 11, 2013 9:30 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    we need to bring back the poll tax
    oh… about 500.00 to vote
    $1000.00 in a presidential election


  63. storagemanger
    63 | January 11, 2013 9:30 am

    Understand -- and this is a crucial point -- the second amendment isn’t about “hunting”. It never has been. The fact is that the right to bear arms was put into place by the founders as a means of protecting the citizens from tyranny. That is why would-be governmental gun grabbers hate that pesky second amendment. An armed populace is the one thing standing between them and what they want -- an omnipotent central government accountable to no one and free to impose its will on a defenseless public. Sound harsh? Consider the gun policies of Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Mao Tse Tung and think again…

    Reading the founders’ own writings about the right to bear arms makes it quite clear what their intent was when adding the second amendment. Chuck Baldwin wrote a recent column that addresses this issue and I will repeat here two quotes he used from Thomas Jefferson and George Washington

    Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/when-only-tyrants-have-guns#ixzz2Hg3nzYPB
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution


  64. coldwarrior
    64 | January 11, 2013 9:32 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Rodan, I didn’t know you were a Sarah Palin fan. Thought you were a lot smarter.

    man, are you wrong on that. i work in the medical field. you are in for a very rude awakening my friend. i can see that you are nowhere near informed on the issue of obamacare. seriously, you are in for a very very rude awakening.

    there are death panels. they are called care pathways. these pathways are set up by a board. they effectively decide who dies and who does not. most of this will be age realted. the very young and the elderly will be sacrificed for the greater good. this isnt hyperbole, this is fact.


  65. 65 | January 11, 2013 9:32 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Is Andrew Cuomo going to come in to your house, or my house, and take away guns? No fucking way.

    Did he not call for gun confiscation? Yes or no?


  66. 66 | January 11, 2013 9:32 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Is Andrew Cuomo going to come in to your house, or my house, and take away guns? No fucking way.

    He actually used the word “confiscation”. What else could confiscation possibly mean?


  67. 67 | January 11, 2013 9:32 am

    @ theoutsider:

    You’ve obviously not read Feinstein’s Bill or listened to your Democrat leadership like Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo is talking confiscation, so don’t tell me that the Democrats aren’t coming for the guns. They’ll go as far as they can. Besides, what part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand? The Second Amendment should be at least as protected as the righ tto an abortion. Gun controllers are anti-civil rights, just as if they were calling for segregation. Would you consider a little segregation acceptible?


  68. 68 | January 11, 2013 9:33 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I hope it’s Republicans sitting on these boards and Democrats end up being the ones begging for their surgery to be funded. It would be justice!


  69. rain of lead
    69 | January 11, 2013 9:33 am

    @ theoutsider:

    don’t tell us lefties don’t want to take our guns

    Iowa lawmaker calls for retroactive gun ban, confiscation of semi-automatic weapons

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/09/iowa-lawmaker-calls-for-retroactive-gun-bans-confiscations-of-semi-automatic-weapons/#ixzz2Hg4Q5qCr

    if one is saying it, 100 are thinking it


  70. 70 | January 11, 2013 9:34 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It a discussion as to whether or not to grant cert, not a case to be tried.


  71. coldwarrior
    71 | January 11, 2013 9:34 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    we need to bring back the poll tax
    oh… about 500.00 to vote
    $1000.00 in a presidential election

    property ownership or poll tax. fine by me.

    frankly i think that the more you have to pay in taxes, the more votes you should get. taxation -- representation


  72. 72 | January 11, 2013 9:35 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    How about a background check for an abortion and a limit on how many you can have? An abortion takes a life, so “if it could save one life” seems pretty applicable.


  73. 73 | January 11, 2013 9:36 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i cant wait to get people like you in my hospital. you’ll be 68 and need a hip or a knee.

    none for you, you aren’t productive anymore so the operation goes to someone who can produce. here are your pain killers and your wheelchair. no go home, crawl inside of those Oxycontins, get a good addiction and die. be sure someone brings the wheelchair back or we will charge you next of kin with theft.

    Not so fast, Bloomberg is hot on the trail of pain killers in Emergency Rooms.


  74. Prebanned
    74 | January 11, 2013 9:36 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Is Andrew Cuomo going to come in to your house, or my house, and take away guns? No fucking way.

    You wouldnt lie to us, would you?


  75. Prebanned
    75 | January 11, 2013 9:37 am

    @ rain of lead:
    But I thought Corporations were bad and brown people were good?


  76. Da_Beerfreak
    76 | January 11, 2013 9:38 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Is Andrew Cuomo going to come in to your house, or my house, and take away guns? No fucking way.

    Damn!! That has got to be the biggest Straw Man posted here in a long ass time. How the hell do you keep a straight face while posting such a whopper??


  77. rain of lead
    77 | January 11, 2013 9:38 am

    bend over, here it comes again

    As new fiscal crises near, Democrats seek more tax increases

    One proposal popular with economists is treating some portion of employer-provided health insurance as taxable income

    Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/01/09/179447/as-new-fiscal-crises-near-democrats.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy


  78. storagemanger
    78 | January 11, 2013 9:38 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    you aren’t productive anymore so the operation goes to someone who can produce. here are your pain killers and your wheelchair.

    New York City to Restrict Prescription Painkillers in Public Hospitals’ Emergency Rooms http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/nyregion/new-york-city-to-restrict-powerful-prescription-drugs-in-public-hospitals-emergency-rooms.html?hp&_r=1&


  79. 79 | January 11, 2013 9:40 am

    @ theoutsider:

    Cuomo himself won;t come, of course. He’ll send ATF thugs armed with machineguns and laxer ROEs than our troops in Afghanistan have. Don’ tyou remember Waco? That was gun control in action.


  80. coldwarrior
    80 | January 11, 2013 9:40 am

    @ MacDuff:

    that is a problem. people go hospital shopping for meds.


  81. rain of lead
    81 | January 11, 2013 9:40 am

    been fun ya’ll but gotta go
    keep swatting the outsider, he seems to like it


  82. Prebanned
    82 | January 11, 2013 9:40 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    theoutsider wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    Rodan, I didn’t know you were a Sarah Palin fan. Thought you were a lot smarter.
    man, are you wrong on that. i work in the medical field. you are in for a very rude awakening my friend. i can see that you are nowhere near informed on the issue of obamacare. seriously, you are in for a very very rude awakening.
    there are death panels. they are called care pathways. these pathways are set up by a board. they effectively decide who dies and who does not. most of this will be age realted. the very young and the elderly will be sacrificed for the greater good. this isnt hyperbole, this is fact.

    The day you retire, you quit paying in and start “costing” the government money they will be looking to deny you care.

    This is how they will save medicare and social security, bet on it.


  83. Da_Beerfreak
    83 | January 11, 2013 9:41 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    we need to bring back the poll tax
    oh… about 500.00 to vote
    $1000.00 in a presidential election

    Don’t really need to give the government more money when a simple background check will do. After all the idiots on the left keep telling us it’s not an invasion of our privacy and it only takes a minute…


  84. storagemanger
    84 | January 11, 2013 9:41 am

    Will Obama Follow Cuomo’s Example on Guns? http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/will-obama-follow-cuomos-example-on-guns/


  85. coldwarrior
    85 | January 11, 2013 9:44 am

    Prebanned wrote:

    The day you retire, you quit paying in and start “costing” the government money they will be looking to deny you care.

    This is how they will save medicare and social security, bet on it.

    its all part of the big equation.


  86. coldwarrior
    86 | January 11, 2013 9:45 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    rain of lead wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    we need to bring back the poll tax
    oh… about 500.00 to vote
    $1000.00 in a presidential election

    Don’t really need to give the government more money when a simple background check will do. After all the idiots on the left keep telling us it’s not an invasion of our privacy and it only takes a minute…

    perfect.


  87. Prebanned
    87 | January 11, 2013 9:47 am

    If we think that this 450 million round order is large, given that the total population of the U.S. is around 313 million, as the saying goes, “you ain’t seen nothin’ yet”. On the day that this piece is being written, August 20, 2012, the Bid Submission Deadline for yet another huge ammo purchase by the DHS is passing. Very much similar in nature to the contract awarded in March of this year, once again, the purchaser is DHS. This time, though, instead of ICE, much of the ammo will be used by the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center. Instead of primarily .40 cal hollow point, this order consists of a myriad of other hollow point rounds including .223 caliber rifle rounds, 30-06, .308 caliber, 12 gauge shotgun shells, .357 caliber, .38 Specials, .38 caliber, more .40 calibers, .45 calibers, as well as 9 mm rounds. This, too, will be a five year contract, but instead of a maximum of 450 million rounds like the March contract, this one could grow to as large as 750 million rounds. For anyone interested, though it’s too late to bid on this one, the Solicitation Request Documents can be seen at https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=7f6a48adb7f…. So that’s a total of 1.2 BILLION rounds of ammo being purchased by DHS. Did someone say the total U.S. population is only 313 million? Hmmmmm.

    On a different and (??) unrelated story, the Social Security Administration is in the process of accepting bids for 174,000 rounds of .357 hollow points.

    The government orders this ammo and this will prolong the shortage.


  88. storagemanger
    88 | January 11, 2013 9:48 am

    NRA: Biden Considering Proposals To “Interfere Significantly” With Second Amendment Rights… http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/11/nra-biden-considering-proposals-to-interfere-significantly-with-second-amendment-rights/


  89. 89 | January 11, 2013 9:50 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    How about a background check for an abortion and a limit on how many you can have? An abortion takes a life, so “if it could save one life” seems pretty applicable.

    How about a background check to be a journalist?


  90. 90 | January 11, 2013 9:51 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    that is a problem. people go hospital shopping for meds.

    Yes, I understand that, but there’s already an whiff of criminalization of the innocent wafting through this subject and it’ll only get worse.


  91. 91 | January 11, 2013 9:51 am

    rain of lead wrote:

    been fun ya’ll but gotta go
    keep swatting the outsider, he seems to like it

    Take care!


  92. 92 | January 11, 2013 9:52 am

    storagemanger wrote:

    Will Obama Follow Cuomo’s Example on Guns? http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/will-obama-follow-cuomos-example-on-guns/

    He wants to very bad.


  93. taxfreekiller
    93 | January 11, 2013 9:52 am

    The Commie Democrat Party is 100% lie based.

    The RINO’s do want to understand that.

    It is up to U.S. not the elected ones.

    example of a the new lie on “have to do amnesty” for the good of the country ect. bull shit.

    http://cis.org

    “New Report Offers Deceptive Assessment of Immigration Enforcement”
    by Jessica Vaughn

    No. One lie of the commie Democrats has two legs and shows up white on the White House TV via a lie based filter.

    Obama!


  94. 94 | January 11, 2013 9:52 am

    @ Rodan:

    I need a background check to own a gun but of course you can’t ask for ID to vote. And of course, I’m sure all those gang members in L.A., N.Y.. Chicago and the rest of the criminal element in the U.S. will be lining up at the local gun store to undergo the requisite background check to buy their weapons. Oh, and they’ll most certainly follow the law on 10+ round magazine clips.


  95. Da_Beerfreak
    95 | January 11, 2013 9:52 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It a discussion as to whether or not to grant cert, not a case to be tried.

    Still interesting.
    Maybe the only reason they are looking at the case is to put it to bed. Or maybe not??


  96. 96 | January 11, 2013 9:54 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ theoutsider:
    Cuomo himself won;t come, of course. He’ll send ATF thugs armed with machineguns and laxer ROEs than our troops in Afghanistan have. Don’ tyou remember Waco? That was gun control in action.

    Yup.


  97. Da_Beerfreak
    97 | January 11, 2013 9:54 am

    @ Prebanned:
    It’s all part of the bigger plan…


  98. 98 | January 11, 2013 9:55 am

    Cuomo sounded like a drooling psycho the other day. If you closed your eyes and imagined him speaking German, well, you get the picture.


  99. 99 | January 11, 2013 9:56 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I need a background check to own a gun but of course you can’t ask for ID to vote. And of course, I’m sure all those gang members in L.A., N.Y.. Chicago and the rest of the criminal element in the U.S. will be lining up at the local gun store to undergo the requisite background check to buy their weapons. Oh, and they’ll most certainly follow the law on 10+ round magazine clips.

    I’m sure members of the bloods and crips will but the small capacity clips!
    ///

    I think Conservatives should turn the table on the Left. Since they want to restrict our rights to own weapons, why not restrict freedom of the press?


  100. Da_Beerfreak
    100 | January 11, 2013 9:56 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    How about a background check for an abortion and a limit on how many you can have? An abortion takes a life, so “if it could save one life” seems pretty applicable.

    How about a background check to be a journalist?

    How about a background check to buy socks??
    At least in Chicago…


  101. citizen_q
    102 | January 11, 2013 9:56 am

    @ Rodan:
    Well maybe not.

    That facist nanny bloomberg is at it again.

    New York City to Restrict Prescription Painkillers in Public Hospitals’ Emergency Rooms

    Some of the most common and most powerful prescription painkillers on the market will be restricted sharply in the emergency rooms at New York City’s 11 public hospitals, Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said Thursday in an effort to crack down on what he called a citywide and national epidemic of prescription drug abuse

    .


  102. 103 | January 11, 2013 9:56 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    But it’s RAAAAACISM to want an ID to vote. So isn’t it racist to want an ID to buy a gun? Background check? We shouldn’t even need ID.


  103. 104 | January 11, 2013 9:56 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Cuomo sounded like a drooling psycho the other day. If you closed your eyes and imagined him speaking German, well, you get the picture.

    Actually I think he was channeling his fellow Piasano, Il Duce!


  104. 105 | January 11, 2013 9:58 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I need a background check to own a gun but of course you can’t ask for ID to vote. And of course, I’m sure all those gang members in L.A., N.Y.. Chicago and the rest of the criminal element in the U.S. will be lining up at the local gun store to undergo the requisite background check to buy their weapons. Oh, and they’ll most certainly follow the law on 10+ round magazine clips.

    Criminalize the law-abiding and the law-abiding will surely become criminals.


  105. coldwarrior
    106 | January 11, 2013 9:58 am

    @ citizen_q:

    its actually a good thing.

    see my comment 4


  106. 107 | January 11, 2013 9:58 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Shapiro was brilliant. Piss is the typical libturd “jurinalist” -- deflect, interrupt, etc. When Piss had Alex Jones on he pulled stats out of his ass and was factchecked by a Fox affiliate in Cincinnati as being full of it.


  107. 108 | January 11, 2013 9:58 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Why not a background check to vote?


  108. 109 | January 11, 2013 10:00 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Actually I think he was channeling his fellow Piasano, Il Duce!

    You may be right. Authoritarianism is sweeping through the liberal ranks like the Black Death did in Europe and it has the potential to be equally as tragic.


  109. taxfreekiller
    110 | January 11, 2013 10:01 am

    Outsider,

    So, with William Ayers background of bombing ect. do you think he should be on your commie Democrat no gun list?


  110. Da_Beerfreak
    111 | January 11, 2013 10:02 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    But it’s RAAAAACISM to want an ID to vote. So isn’t it racist to want an ID to buy a gun? Background check? We shouldn’t even need ID.

    So I’m a racist. So what?? I don’t care anymore…


  111. 112 | January 11, 2013 10:02 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Absolutely. The California legislature has a bill on the table once again to ID ammo sales and register them. I can’t help but think this is a backdoor plan to find out what guns you supposedly own. For instance, if there is a big sale on .223 ammo at the WalMart where I live and I pick up 200 rounds, under that bill I’d have to ID and register the purchase. Except I don’t own a .223 -- but a friend who lives in a county that doesn’t allow ammo sales in WalMart does, and I’m taking advantage of the sale on his behalf. Betcha with the libturds in Sacto, I’ll be getting a letter from the Attorney General asking why I’m buying .223 ammo when there’s no record of me owning a .223.

    If this passes, I’ll drive to Reno and buy my ammo at Cabella’s.


  112. 113 | January 11, 2013 10:03 am

    @ MacDuff:

    The American left is very Totalitarian. It’s a shame we do not have a credible opposition party at the moment. We are living in a new Progressive era.


  113. Da_Beerfreak
    114 | January 11, 2013 10:03 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Why not a background check to vote?

    Sure. It only takes a minute…


  114. 115 | January 11, 2013 10:04 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I can’t help but think this is a backdoor plan to find out what guns you supposedly own.

    That is exactly why they are proposing that.


  115. 116 | January 11, 2013 10:04 am

    @ Rodan:

    Remember Dingleberry’s comment re Obamacare: “First, you have to control the people.”


  116. citizen_q
    117 | January 11, 2013 10:05 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    I did. Good points

    I guess that I am a bit sensitive to camel’s nose under the tent issues.


  117. 118 | January 11, 2013 10:06 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Remember Dingleberry’s comment re Obamacare: “First, you have to control the people.”

    Yup and it’s true. The dream of Woodrow Wilson is coming true.


  118. 119 | January 11, 2013 10:06 am

    @ Rodan:

    California -- leave your rights at the border. I imagine that soon the agri inspection stations will look more like U.S. Customs. Instead of just asking if you have any fruits and vegetables, the ammo/gun sniffing dogs will surround your car.


  119. Da_Beerfreak
    120 | January 11, 2013 10:06 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Absolutely. The California legislature has a bill on the table once again to ID ammo sales and register them. I can’t help but think this is a backdoor plan to find out what guns you supposedly own. For instance, if there is a big sale on .223 ammo at the WalMart where I live and I pick up 200 rounds, under that bill I’d have to ID and register the purchase. Except I don’t own a .223 — but a friend who lives in a county that doesn’t allow ammo sales in WalMart does, and I’m taking advantage of the sale on his behalf. Betcha with the libturds in Sacto, I’ll be getting a letter from the Attorney General asking why I’m buying .223 ammo when there’s no record of me owning a .223.

    If this passes, I’ll drive to Reno and buy my ammo at Cabella’s.

    Just like New York where 60% of the cigarettes sold come illegally from out of state…


  120. taxfreekiller
    121 | January 11, 2013 10:09 am

    Two GP Dr.’s from Dallas have just moved to a city near us in East Texas, they have been going to Tea Party meet ups and such and adviseing they will have a operation in the carriage house they have remodled at the big house they bought. Cash only. If you need to go to a hospital they say they will refer people to Dr’s on the East side of Dallas.

    underground medical is ramping up


  121. 122 | January 11, 2013 10:09 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    That’s coming, you will see.


  122. 123 | January 11, 2013 10:10 am

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Two GP Dr.’s from Dallas have just moved to a city near us in East Texas, they have been going to Tea Party meet ups and such and adviseing they will have a operation in the carriage house they have remodled at the big house they bought. Cash only. If you need to go to a hospital they say they will refer people to Dr’s on the East side of Dallas.
    underground medical is ramping up

    That was coming. There will be a huge underground economy because of Obamacare.


  123. 124 | January 11, 2013 10:10 am

    @ Rodan:

    I’m more amazed that it hasn’t happened already. It’s really sad, too, because like Dorian, I love this state. I love everything about it. Except the guys who are running it.


  124. 125 | January 11, 2013 10:11 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I did. Good points

    I guess that I am a bit sensitive to camel’s nose under the tent issues.

    I see no reason this couldn’t be tracked by the patient’s SS number. We seem to be criminalizing the many because of abuse by a few.


  125. 126 | January 11, 2013 10:12 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    The song California Ubber Alles was ahead of it’s time. It’s really a Fascist police state.


  126. 127 | January 11, 2013 10:12 am

    @ Rodan:

    A little off topic. My son saw a certain movie in the Guide and said “Mom, is this about that friend of yours?”


  127. buzzsawmonkey
    128 | January 11, 2013 10:12 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Why not a background check to vote?

    Because most people who take payoffs in the background to vote won’t accept checks. They prefer cash, a couple of drinks, or an Obamaphone™.


  128. buzzsawmonkey
    129 | January 11, 2013 10:15 am

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    underground medical is ramping up

    Abortion front and center instead of back-alley; actual medicine back-alley instead of front and center.


  129. 130 | January 11, 2013 10:16 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    A little off topic. My son saw a certain movie in the Guide and said “Mom, is this about that friend of yours?”

    :lol:

    Let me guess, Rodan!


  130. 131 | January 11, 2013 10:16 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Makes you wonder when we all fell through the worm hole and into Bizarro World.


  131. theoutsider
    132 | January 11, 2013 10:16 am

    @ Rodan:
    Dead Kennedy’s Fan?


  132. 133 | January 11, 2013 10:17 am

    @ Rodan:

    He loved the movie, by the way.


  133. taxfreekiller
    134 | January 11, 2013 10:17 am

    On Calif.

    Ms tfk has new customers. former Col. U.S. Air Force husband, wife former Air Force mediacl Dr. , they are now in Calif. last attached to Livermoore Lab. research on sat. imageing for NSA.

    They are looking for 40 ac sandy loam near a river to build an underground 8,000 sq ft house for a family secure place. They are selling two homes they have in Calif. and say they will put $3 M in the one they will build here in East Texas.

    He says they are also getting all his extended family from Calif to get the hell out too.

    Calif. has self destructed live on TV..


  134. 135 | January 11, 2013 10:18 am

    By the way -- new read recommendation for everyone -- “Bullies” by Ben Shapiro. He was on Levin last night and very interesting.


  135. Da_Beerfreak
    136 | January 11, 2013 10:19 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That’s why the Government wants to get rid of all forms of cash and have everyone use some form of electronic money or go to jail…

    Do not pass go…

    You know the rest…


  136. 137 | January 11, 2013 10:19 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Wow -- Flyboy lives in Livermore -- wonder if I’ve ever met them at various functions around town. He’s connected with the Lab as well.


  137. 138 | January 11, 2013 10:20 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    He loved the movie, by the way.

    Tell him to see Ghidorah the 3 headed Monster. That’s the movie Rodan turns good. He will love that movie.


  138. 139 | January 11, 2013 10:21 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Dead Kennedy’s Fan?

    Just that song. I’m not really a rocker. I’m a Old School Hip Hop and Electro-House/Techno fan.

    Coldwarrior is the Punker around here.


  139. 140 | January 11, 2013 10:21 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Of course. Why you have a black box in new cars. Everything about you they can track is a plus.


  140. 141 | January 11, 2013 10:22 am

    @ taxfreekiller:

    Calif. has self destructed live on TV.

    Don’t let Dorian see that comment!

    :lol:


  141. 142 | January 11, 2013 10:23 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    By the way — new read recommendation for everyone — “Bullies” by Ben Shapiro. He was on Levin last night and very interesting.

    Breitbart, rest his soul, really did assemble quite a talented and passionate troupe; they may be his greatest legacy.

    BTW, the TV is a thing of wonder. My wife insisted that we needed a Bose sound system to accompany it -- did I marry well or what?!


  142. 143 | January 11, 2013 10:23 am

    @ Rodan:

    And I love the Jazz. But that’s the New Orleans influence. Which is difficult in light of the musical ambitions of a certain blogger.


  143. 144 | January 11, 2013 10:24 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Every time I hear the song “Man on the Moon” now I get a little weepy — “Andy did you hear about this one.” But he energized all of us to be vigilant.


  144. 145 | January 11, 2013 10:24 am

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    Calif. has self destructed live on TV..

    Yeah, it’s like watching those car chases in LA -- you know the outcome, the only question is how much damage will be done in the process.


  145. 146 | January 11, 2013 10:26 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    And I love the Jazz. But that’s the New Orleans influence. Which is difficult in light of the musical ambitions of a certain blogger.

    I like Afro-Cuban Jazz. I actually go this bar that has bands that play that. Pretty cool stuff. It’s New Orleans meats Caribbean Afro-Latin music. Pretty good fusion.


  146. taxfreekiller
    148 | January 11, 2013 10:29 am

    Holder and Obama due to their known activity in illegal gun running could not pass a background check to own guns.


  147. 149 | January 11, 2013 10:29 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Actually, one of the real problems with California is the way it’s legislature is structured. Both houses are based on population. If, for instance, our State Senate was one senator per county, we’d have a good conservative Senate, because if you ever look at a map, there are more red counties than blue. But it isn’t. I’m told it’s because of Baker v. Carr that it’s one man, one vote and it’s inequitable because it would mean people in Mono County (small population) and the people in Los Angeles County (huge population) would have the same representation.


  148. 150 | January 11, 2013 10:29 am

    Rodan wrote:

    It’s New Orleans meats Caribbean Afro-Latin music.

    Sounds interesting, could you recommend anything to download? Drop me a line if you like, I’m always looking for interesting stuff like that.


  149. 151 | January 11, 2013 10:30 am

    @ Rodan:

    Can you recommend artists with recordings in the genre? I’d love to listen to it. Sounds great.


  150. Da_Beerfreak
  151. 153 | January 11, 2013 10:31 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Actually, one of the real problems with California is the way it’s legislature is structured. Both houses are based on population. If, for instance, our State Senate was one senator per county, we’d have a good conservative Senate, because if you ever look at a map, there are more red counties than blue. But it isn’t. I’m told it’s because of Baker v. Carr that it’s one man, one vote and it’s inequitable because it would mean people in Mono County (small population) and the people in Los Angeles County (huge population) would have the same representation.

    I think CA is a microcosm of what’s happening in the US at large -- the large metro areas are essentially dictating to the rest by virtue of overwhelming numbers.


  152. 154 | January 11, 2013 10:33 am

    @ MacDuff:
    @ Carolina Girl:

    Just Youtube Afro Cuban jazz. I don’t know any bands in particular, I just like the sound. I’ll ask around for good artists and will shoot you guys an email later.

    Here are a couple of threads I did.

    http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2011/03/03/thursday-night-afro-cuban-jazz-drinking-thread/

    http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2010/08/27/a-little-afro-cuban-jazz-break/

    http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2010/07/12/monday-afternoon-afro-cuban-jazz-session/


  153. Da_Beerfreak
    155 | January 11, 2013 10:33 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Little more then mob rule…


  154. 156 | January 11, 2013 10:33 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    APNewsBreak: Rockefeller won’t seek re-election

    Why WV ever elected that carpetbagger in the first place is beyond me.


  155. theoutsider
    157 | January 11, 2013 10:33 am

    @ Rodan:
    NWA? FTP is my sort of posts.


  156. 158 | January 11, 2013 10:33 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    APNewsBreak: Rockefeller won’t seek re-election

    That should be a GOP pickup, but they will probably nominate an Akins/Angle clone and piss it away.


  157. 159 | January 11, 2013 10:34 am

    @ Rodan:

    Cool, I’ll look into that!


  158. 160 | January 11, 2013 10:34 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    NWA? FTP is my sort of posts.

    Did you know Easy E was a Republican? Not many know that. He contributed to Bush in 88 and 92.


  159. 161 | January 11, 2013 10:35 am

    New Thread.


  160. taxfreekiller
    162 | January 11, 2013 10:36 am

    Outsider,

    So, your background better than William Ayers or Holder/Obama?

    The three of them if they get their way would not make the grade to own guns.

    Not that smart in the long run. Lots of the commie Democrats have poor life choices in their back grounds.


  161. Da_Beerfreak
    163 | January 11, 2013 10:36 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    APNewsBreak: Rockefeller won’t seek re-election

    That should be a GOP pickup, but they will probably nominate an Akins/Angle clone and piss it away.

    Why not?? The GOPee is on a roll. Why stop now??


  162. taxfreekiller
    164 | January 11, 2013 10:37 am

    Rockafeller paid for his Senate seat with Oil money.

    @ MacDuff:


  163. 165 | January 11, 2013 10:42 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Oh my day is ruined…..NOT!


  164. Da_Beerfreak
    166 | January 11, 2013 10:43 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    :mrgreen:


  165. The Osprey
    167 | January 11, 2013 10:54 am

    @ Prebanned:

    Why all the different calibers? Only makes sense if they are doing this to tie up production
    with this bid and cause a shortage for everyone else.


  166. 168 | January 11, 2013 11:44 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    @ Rodan:
    Obamacare is the law of the land. It’s not going away.

    It will when it, and we, run out of cash.

    It’s fiscally unsustainable.

    In other words, everything associated with the program goes bankrupt and there’s nobody to bail it out.


  167. 169 | January 11, 2013 11:48 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    How about a background check for an abortion and a limit on how many you can have? An abortion takes a life, so “if it could save one life” seems pretty applicable.
    How about a background check to be a journalist?

    How about a background check to buy socks??
    At least in Chicago…

    LOL…


  168. lobo91
    170 | January 11, 2013 11:52 am

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ Prebanned:

    Why all the different calibers? Only makes sense if they are doing this to tie up production
    with this bid and cause a shortage for everyone else.

    I was thinking the same thing.


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