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Hagel and Obama have bigger fish to fry than Israel

by Speranza ( 117 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Barack Obama, Israel, Military at January 15th, 2013 - 7:00 am

I agree with Miss Glick that it is important not to make the opposition to Chuck Hagel based solely on his anti-Israel record but that  it should be based on his stated desire to gut the American military. As Secretary of Defense to the first post-American president, Hagel will not utter a word as Obama  relentlessly  cuts America’s defense down to size.

by Caroline Glick

Chuck Hagel hates Jews. Or should I say, he hates Jews who think that Jews have rights and that their rights should be defended, in Israel by the government and the IDF, in America by Israel’s supporters.

As I mentioned before, it is not at all surprising that Obama appointed Hagel, and I see little  chance that the Senate will reject his appointment. Israel and its American friends however can take heart that Israel will not be Hagel’s chief concern.

Hagel — and Obama — have bigger fish to fry than Israel. They are looking to take on the US military. They will slash military budgets, they will slash pensions and medical benefits for veterans in order to save a couple dollars and demoralize the military. They will unilaterally disarm the US to the point where America’s antiquated nuclear arsenal will become a complete joke. And I don’t see the military capable of stopping it. Anyone remember the F-22?
I find the whole Israel angle on Hagel irritating because of this. Yes, Hagel will be bad to Israel. But we can minimize the damage by diversifying our own arsenal and weaning ourselves off of US military handouts [...........].  Moreover, for years that military aid has been a corrupting force on Israel’s general staff. I’ve been advocating ending US military aid to Israel for more than a decade, but better late than wait until we find ourselves at war and out of spare parts because Hagel and Obama won’t sign the requisition orders to Boeing and Lockheed.
Unlike Israel, the US military cannot minimize the damage that Hagel and Obama will cause. America’s capabilities will suffer at the hands of the duly reelected Commander in Chief and his duly appointed Defense Secretary. The only chance to dodge that bullet was on Election Day and the American people blew it.
By making this a story about Hagel the anti-Semite, nice senators like Lindsey Graham and John McCain are obfuscating the main problem. The main reason Hagel shouldn’t be appointed is not because he hates Israel. It is because he hates a strong America.
But then, that is why Obama appointed him. The American people in their wisdom, reelected Obama despite the fact that he wants to cut America down to size, strangle the economy in regulations and unaffordable welfare handouts and then gut its military. By making Hagel’s appointment about Israel all his opponents are doing is giving Hagel and his supporters new excuses for sticking it to Israel.
It was Obama and his supporters that started the myth that Netanyahu was interfering in the elections, even though he did no such thing. All Netanyahu did was welcome Romney to Israel during the campaign, just as Olmert welcomed then senator Obama to Israel before the 2008 elections.
Obama, Hagel and their army of media outlets and operatives are setting Israel up to take the blame for everything they do and in the process seeking to demonize Israel’s prime minister before the American people. The campaign against Hagel the anti-Semite just plays into that while hiding the real problem which is that he is anti-American.
NOTABLY, AT the same time that the US electorate decided they’d had it with being the indispensable nation and so reelected a man who said the US is as exceptional as Greece, Israelis have decided we’ve had enough with trying to pretend we’re nothing special.
Next week we’re going to vote and it is already clear that Israel is in the midst of the Second Zionist Revolution. The first Zionist revolution was a socialist revolution. The second Zionist revolution is Jewish. Israel is coming into its own. Judaism is flourishing, changing, living and breathing here like it never has anywhere since the destruction of the Second Commonwealth [.......]

[.......]

Some fear that Netanyahu will take his electoral victory, throw it in the garbage and replay Sharon’s perfidy, by spitting on his voters and his party and forming a narrow coalition with the far Left in order to appease the anti-Semites in Washington. But I don’t see that happening. First, Netanyahu isn’t as shameless as Sharon and he doesn’t seem to have the dictatorial impulses Sharon suffered from.
Second, I don’t think he has the people in Likud that would let him go that route. Sharon had Olmert and Livni who were happy to toss their values out the window for job promotions. Netanyahu is the head of the most right wing Likud list ever. The lefties he pushed into the cabinet despite his party members’ objections last time around – Dan Meridor, Benny Begin and Michael Eitan — were obliterated in the primaries. Netanyahu can’t bring them in this time, even if he wants to. So that means he doesn’t really have the ability to abandon his base, even if he wanted to. And again, I don’t think he’d want to.
What all of this means is that beginning next month, we are in all likelihood going to see a post-American US government squaring off against the first genuinely Jewish Israeli government ever. I don’t know what will happen when they meet. But I know it will be great material for my column.
Read the rest – Chuck Hagel – It’s the anti-Americanism, stupid

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  1. 1 | January 15, 2013 7:14 am

    My opinion of Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Emasculated Defense should be obvious: [Deleted]


  2. 2 | January 15, 2013 7:29 am

    OT, but then this is a major topic by itself. New York State secceeds form the United States of America…

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/bill-called-toughest-gun-control-package-in-nation-passed-by-new-york-state/

    ES&D, MFs!


  3. unclassifiable
    3 | January 15, 2013 8:02 am

    Bork this guy. It is time to do some major dirt mining on him.


  4. 4 | January 15, 2013 8:03 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Notice that they’ve cut the maximinmum magazine capacity to seven from ten. These are arbitrary numbers. Smith and Wesson makes a 686 that has an eight round cylinder. I don’t know whether that would be illegal according to this proposal or not. 1911s also take 8 round magazines. Now they’ll be “Assault Weapons” in New York State. It’ll be interesting to see if the Supreme Court allows this ludicrous law to stand.


  5. 5 | January 15, 2013 8:08 am

    @ Mike C.:

    While I can agree with increasing penalties for using ANY weapon against anyone other than someone who’s attacking you or invading your home or property, the rest of the bill is crap.


  6. 6 | January 15, 2013 8:10 am

    I do think the military needs to be reduced and some cuts to waste done in order to reduce the debt/deficit. But what Obama wants is to reduce the military so he can do social spending. That’s his agenda not debt/deficit reduction.


  7. 7 | January 15, 2013 8:11 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    It’ll be interesting to see if the Supreme Court allows this ludicrous law to stand.

    That’s what worries me. John Roberts is a coward.


  8. 8 | January 15, 2013 8:17 am

    Harry Reid dounbts the Senate will pass a new “Assault Weapons” ban:

    Evan McMorris-Santoro January 14, 2013, 6:35 PM 15509The Democratically-controlled U.S. Senate will not be a free-for-all of new gun regulations following the shooting at Sandy Hook, according to Majority Leader Harry Reid. Instead, Senators will focus on passing legislation that can move through the Republican-controlled House, Reid said.

    That could spell doom for an assault weapons ban. Speaking on Nevada Week In Review, a news show on the PBS affiliate in Las Vegas, Reid said there’s no real chance of a new ban passing the House.

    “Is it something that can pass the Senate? Maybe. Is it something that can pass the House? I doubt it,” he said in video of the program provided to TPM by Vegas PBS. “So I think there are things that we know we can do.”

    As I’ve said, I don’t think that the 14 or so Democrat Senators who are up for re-election in 2014 want to die on the AWB hill. I’m sure they’d rather the issue didn’t even come up for a vote. The real worry is what will Obama do with EOs.


  9. 9 | January 15, 2013 8:18 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The real worry is what will Obama do with EOs.

    That’s what is the danger and no one will stop him.


  10. 10 | January 15, 2013 8:20 am

    @ Rodan:

    Any cuts in the military will be more than offset by increases in domestic spending to buy Democrats votes. Cuttin gthe military isn’t about budget constraints. It is about reducing the ability of the United States to act according to her own best interests. At best, Obama wants us to be like France. But I think he is thinking more along the lines of reducing us to Zimbabwe’s level. As an act of fairness, you see.


  11. 11 | January 15, 2013 8:21 am

    Fascist Bloomberg urges Obama to use executive power.

    Bloomberg urges Obama to defy Congress, implement gun control by executive action


  12. 12 | January 15, 2013 8:22 am

    @ Rodan:
    The problem with military budget cuts by the left, is that they seem to cut meat and bone instead of fat. When Pierre Trudeau was leading Canada, the Canadian Armed Forces was cut back so badly and far that it took years to start to recover. In fact the 8 years of Mulroney barely even started to cover the damage done over a period of almost 20 years.

    It was so bad when I was in the reserves back in the 80′s and early 90′s that we had more generals at NDHQ Ottawa then we had in the entirety of WW II. And a military that was almost 1/4 of the size now to boot.


  13. 13 | January 15, 2013 8:25 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    It is about reducing the ability of the United States to act according to her own best interests.

    The sad part is neither party acts in America’s interest. Republicans love to nation build and Democrats love to do the UN’s bidding.

    Obama’s agenda is to gut the military to spend on social stuff . If it was about reducing the military to get our budget in order I have no problem.


  14. 14 | January 15, 2013 8:28 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    I don’t trust either party when it comes to the military. The only reasons the GOP opposes reducing the military is because it will prevent them from nation building and helping Islamists. Democrats want to cut it so they can spend it on social services.

    I don’t trust neither party on he military nor foreign affairs.


  15. citizen_q
    15 | January 15, 2013 8:34 am

    @ Mike C.:
    @ Iron Fist:
    They are going full UK.

    Self-defence will essentially be illegal.

    The first step will do nothing but ensure that when a citizen needs to defend themselves and family they will be at a disadvantage. The second aspect will be to stigmatize those who excersize their 2nc Amendment rights to incrementally destroy them.

    MD yapping on NY’s heels.


  16. 16 | January 15, 2013 8:43 am

    @ citizen_q:

    O’Malley and Cuomo are trying to out Fascist each other.


  17. theoutsider
    17 | January 15, 2013 8:43 am

    @ Rodan:
    We need to start cutting everywhere, including Defense. What’s going on with Bill Kristol and Jen Rubin? Are they ready for the Psycho ward


  18. Speranza
    18 | January 15, 2013 8:43 am

    unclassifiable wrote:

    Bork this guy. It is time to do some major dirt mining on him.

    That would be sweet!


  19. 19 | January 15, 2013 8:44 am

    @ citizen_q:

    We’ll have to wait and see what this pile of horseshit actually says. This talk of “safe storeage” sounds to me like it directly contradicts DC v Heller. And I also want to see exactly what that “7 round limit” applies to. Is my grandson’s .22 Henry lever gun now illegal? My Marlin lever gun?


  20. 20 | January 15, 2013 8:46 am

    @ citizen_q:

    That is their goal, but some States are moving the opposite direction. You have a number of States with “Firearms Freedom” laws, and you have States like Wyoming trying to make enforcing Federal Gun Control laws a State felony. That is the way to go. We have to fight this in the Courts and at the State level. The States are our next to last shield against an over-reaching Federal power.


  21. Speranza
    21 | January 15, 2013 8:46 am

    Last night I saw Sen. Portman of Ohio on Hannity and am convinced that he rather then Paul Ryan should have been the V.P. nominee. He explains things in simple, understandable language and I don’t think he would have shown Biden the deference that the wonkish Ryan foolishly showed to the boorish and rude vice president. Ryan is one of the most intelligent members of the House but he came across like an economist giving a lecture on Saturday afternoon C-SPAN.


  22. Guggi
    22 | January 15, 2013 8:48 am

    The Democrats are like in a fever for social spending (vote buying)


  23. Speranza
    23 | January 15, 2013 8:48 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    We need to start cutting everywhere, including Defense. What’s going on with Bill Kristol and Jen Rubin? Are they ready for the Psycho ward

    That’s a great debating tactic you are using.// As for the psycho ward Joe Biden has a room all to himself there.


  24. RIX
    24 | January 15, 2013 8:51 am

    Good morning. Obama foolishly wants to decimate or nuclear stock pile.
    Whether or not it fits the Lefts narrative, it is those nukes that have helped
    avoid WWIII.


  25. 25 | January 15, 2013 8:52 am

    @ theoutsider:

    What’s going on with Bill Kristol and Jen Rubin? Are they ready for the Psycho ward

    They are just lackies of the Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi Arabia. They do their masters bidding.

    Now getting that out of the way, Obama only wants to reduce the military to increase social spending. It’s not to get our budget in order.


  26. 26 | January 15, 2013 8:53 am

    @ Speranza:

    Hey, if they can say that their opponents are “psycho”, then they can get the law to keep them from having guns? That is really my worry with increasing the ability of the State to meddle in psychiatric affairs. They then brand the opposition as “crazy”, and the machinery of the State takes over from there. IIRC, Stalin did some of that before he went full-bore genocidal.


  27. 27 | January 15, 2013 8:54 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Now getting that out of the way, Obama only wants to reduce the military to increase social spending. It’s not to get our budget in order.

    With Obama, it’s always about redistribution…..


  28. theoutsider
    28 | January 15, 2013 8:54 am

    @ Speranza:
    Joe Biden will be one of the greatest Vice Presidents./Non Sarc.


  29. 29 | January 15, 2013 8:54 am

    @ Speranza:

    The whole episode with Chuck Hagel proved Democrats do not care about social issues. They just like to use it to bait Republicans and club them over the head. If they really cared about abortion or Gay marriage, Obama would not have nominated Hagel who has the same views as Santorum or Akins.


  30. 30 | January 15, 2013 8:55 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    That is the Marxist tactic. Declare you enemy mentally unfit to silence them.


  31. 31 | January 15, 2013 8:56 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Joe Biden will be one of the greatest Vice Presidents./Non Sarc.

    What is so great about Biden?


  32. Speranza
    32 | January 15, 2013 8:56 am

    I saw a film clip of John Brennan giving the usual crap propaganda speech about “jihad” being about purifying oneself and all I can say is that I fear for America and her allies for the next four years.


  33. 33 | January 15, 2013 8:56 am

    @ MacDuff:

    That’s Obama’s game. It’s not about fiscal responsibility.


  34. 34 | January 15, 2013 8:58 am

    @ Speranza:

    We will not have any allies left in 4 years.


  35. Speranza
    35 | January 15, 2013 8:58 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Joe Biden will be one of the greatest Vice Presidents./Non Sarc.

    I’m not going to even respond to that insanity about Mr. Hairplugs/Plagiarizer. However I will say to you be careful because “They are going to put y’all back in chains”.


  36. Speranza
    36 | January 15, 2013 8:59 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    We will not have any allies left in 4 years.

    The America that we once knew will be gone.


  37. citizen_q
    37 | January 15, 2013 9:00 am

    @ Rodan:
    @ Mike C.:
    @ Iron Fist:
    What is as sure as the sun rising in the east, these draconian totalitarian civil rights violations will fail, and the remedy will be as with all the failing progressive polices will be be to double-down.

    These jack-asses braying about “common sense” regulations. A simple common-sense look at them will show them to be totally ineffective. They are all aimed at people who are law-abiding to begin with.


  38. Speranza
    38 | January 15, 2013 9:00 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The whole episode with Chuck Hagel proved Democrats do not care about social issues. They just like to use it to bait Republicans and club them over the head. If they really cared about abortion or Gay marriage, Obama would not have nominated Hagel who has the same views as Santorum or Akins.

    I agree. They love apostate “Republicans” such as Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee, Chuck Hagel and the odious Colin Powell. Hell they loved John McCain when he was useful to them.


  39. Speranza
    39 | January 15, 2013 9:02 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Hey, if they can say that their opponents are “psycho”, then they can get the law to keep them from having guns? That is really my worry with increasing the ability of the State to meddle in psychiatric affairs. They then brand the opposition as “crazy”, and the machinery of the State takes over from there. IIRC, Stalin did some of that before he went full-bore genocidal.

    Stalin sent them to the killing fields outside of Moscow, or to the Lubyanka prison or to the Kolyma gulag. Brezhnev sent them to psycho wards.


  40. theoutsider
    40 | January 15, 2013 9:04 am

    @ Rodan:
    Everyone in the Senate wants to decre@ Rodan:
    If you and I could conceive a Foreign Policy, we would probably come up with something pretty decent.


  41. Guggi
    41 | January 15, 2013 9:05 am

    surprise, surprise ! The al Qaeda terrorists in Mali are much better armed and trained than the French expected.


  42. Colin Powell
    42 | January 15, 2013 9:05 am

    @ Speranza:

    I am no turncoat to the Republican Party. My type of Republicans are Brent Scrowcroft, James Baker, Caspar Weinberger and George HW Bush. They were sane rational men unlike the crazies like Mitt Romney and John McCain.

    I am Colin Powell and I have spoken!


  43. 43 | January 15, 2013 9:07 am

    Guggi wrote:

    surprise, surprise ! The al Qaeda terrorists in Mali are much better armed and trained than the French expected.

    That’s what France gets for helping al-Qaeda get rid of Gaddafi.


  44. 44 | January 15, 2013 9:11 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    They are all aimed at people who are law-abiding to begin with.

    Exactly. They are all about criminalizing legal behavior so that they can then treat the law-abiding as criminals. At the same time they coddel the real criminals, saying that their criminality is society’s fault. They want t let murderers and rapists out of jail, and put gun owners in for hard time. It is all about power and control. They don’t give a rat’s ass about crime.


  45. 45 | January 15, 2013 9:13 am

    @ Rodan:

    Huh? I thought al Qaeda was no longer a factor…essentially dead. His Highness, The Drone Warrior King hath decreed it. WTF?


  46. 46 | January 15, 2013 9:16 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Huh? I thought al Qaeda was no longer a factor…essentially dead. His Highness, The Drone Warrior King hath decreed it. WTF?

    Yeah al-Qaeda was beaten. The irony about Mali is that we enabled al-Qaeda there by going after Qaddafi who was their enemy. Now Obama and his buddy McCain are helping al-Qaeda in Syria, while we help France against them in Mali. If you are confused about all this, you are not alone.

    But our glorious Hipster God-King has decreed al-Qaeda beaten! Let us rejoice!
    ////


  47. Guggi
    47 | January 15, 2013 9:17 am

    Rodan wrote:

    That’s what France gets for helping al-Qaeda get rid of Gaddafi.

    and with the help of the U.S.A.

    The U.S.A. trained and equiped hundreds of Malian soldiers who immideately cganged over to al Qaeda to fight for them and to train them.


  48. 48 | January 15, 2013 9:17 am

    @ Guggi:

    We really do not learn with this nation building crap.


  49. citizen_q
    49 | January 15, 2013 9:18 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    They don’t give a rat’s ass about crime.

    Crime provides cover for implementation of a police state. Especially if the citizens have been disarmed and defenceless.

    Look at what Homeland Security seems to be becoming. They can’t even admit that nearly all terrorism is islamic at its roots. Seems to me they are more concerned with citizens who might not like what this admin is doing to the country then its enemies. OTOH to find our country’s enemies many in the admin need only look in the mirror.


  50. RIX
    50 | January 15, 2013 9:20 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Huh? I thought al Qaeda was no longer a factor…essentially dead. His Highness, The Drone Warrior King hath decreed it. WTF?

    The fact that Al Qaeda did not disband after Obama said that they did
    just proves that they are raaaaacist.
    Any disobedience to Obama is raaaaacist!


  51. theoutsider
    51 | January 15, 2013 9:21 am

    Senator Ayotte needs to stay away from McCain and Graham. Those two are losers. If she wants a future in the Republican party, diss them.


  52. 52 | January 15, 2013 9:30 am

    @ theoutsider:

    For once, I agree with you. The Apocalypse is no doubt near.


  53. 53 | January 15, 2013 9:34 am

    Instapundit on the debt:

    President Obama, the Democrats, and plenty of Republicans in Congress, would like it if you’d spend the next few weeks talking about gun control. That’s because when you are, you’re not talking about the country’s financial situation.

    And, as the graph included here, taken from OMB budget data, illustrates, the situation is dire. Spending keeps going up. Revenues, however, are not. And, since we’re borrowing the difference, President Obama has what Politico is calling a debt problem: “The staggering national debt — up about 60% from the $10 trillion Obama inherited when he took office in January 2009 — is the single biggest blemish on Obama’s record, even if the rapid descent into red began under President George W. Bush. Obama has long emphasized Bush’s role in digging the immense hole. But he owns it now.”

    We’re at roughly 100% GDP right now, and no end in sight. Well, one end. Sooner or later our creditors are going to look at this and decide that they don’t want to loan us money at near 0% interest any more. That is the real Debt Ceiling, not some artificial number that Congress constructs.


  54. 54 | January 15, 2013 9:34 am

    @ RIX:

    Well, he was going to have more “flexibility” after the election, remember?


  55. Guggi
    55 | January 15, 2013 9:35 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The self-deconstruction of a once great nation. Four more years and your’re done.


  56. 56 | January 15, 2013 9:36 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    You and are going to qualify as “rich” by the end of this year, Fist.


  57. 57 | January 15, 2013 9:38 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Yep. I can barely pay my bills, but Obama considers me rich. As opposed to poor little him, of course. Or poor little Pelosie Galore… :roll:


  58. 58 | January 15, 2013 9:40 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Four more years and your’re done.

    I agree. In four more years Obama will have increased the debt 100% over what it was when he took office, and that is an optomistic estimate. The reality will probably look far worse. The Tax-and-Spend Democrats are back with a vengance. It is no wonder they want to disarm the people.


  59. 59 | January 15, 2013 9:43 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Me, too. I can’t wait for Odumbo to submit another budget again so outrageous that even the Democrats won’t be able to vote for it. Meanwhile his “asset rich” buddies like Buffett and Immelt didn’t even take a real tax hit.

    Remember folks -- work hard. The Odumbo Santa Clause low information voters are counting on you.


  60. 60 | January 15, 2013 9:48 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    OT, but then this is a major topic by itself. New York State secceeds form the United States of America…
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/bill-called-toughest-gun-control-package-in-nation-passed-by-new-york-state/
    ES&D, MFs!

    I hate my city. I used to love New York, now I detest it. Here’s some anti-Liberty Prog art to accompany NY’s secession from the United States.


  61. citizen_q
    61 | January 15, 2013 9:51 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    In MD families making over $100K a year are now rich and are being fleeced a bit more for their fair share.

    Not to mention all the red light and speed cameras everywhere. They keep saying its for safety (think of the children!! /// ), but they make a tidy profit.


  62. SciFiGuy
    62 | January 15, 2013 9:52 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    You and are going to qualify as “rich” by the end of this year, Fist.

    With the taxes that I just paid for first two weeks of this year, I’m positive that I’m considered rich by Obama.


  63. citizen_q
    63 | January 15, 2013 9:53 am

    @ Urban Infidel:
    The aritst should take his own advice. Better the planet, reduce his carbon footprint and off himself.


  64. 64 | January 15, 2013 9:57 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Urban Infidel:
    The aritst should take his own advice. Better the planet, reduce his carbon footprint and off himself.

    I love how these ‘socially aware’ art jerks use spray paint which is really bad for the environment.


  65. Speranza
    65 | January 15, 2013 9:58 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    Senator Ayotte needs to stay away from McCain and Graham. Those two are losers. If she wants a future in the Republican party, diss them.

    You loved McCain and Miss Lindsey when they wanted to give amnesty to all the illegal aliens here who would then vote Democratic.


  66. 66 | January 15, 2013 9:58 am

    @ SciFiGuy:

    Yep. They’ll be demonizing people who make $150,000 by summer, and $100,000 by Christmas as not paying their fair share. Of course, it doesn’t occur to them that $100,000 in Ohio is not the same as $100,000 in California. They’ll fit that in while they’re demonizing the NRA and gun owners.


  67. Speranza
    67 | January 15, 2013 10:01 am

    Colin Powell wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I am no turncoat to the Republican Party. My type of Republicans are Brent Scrowcroft, James Baker, Caspar Weinberger and George HW Bush. They were sane rational men unlike the crazies like Mitt Romney and John McCain.
    I am Colin Powell and I have spoken!

    You are the greatest diplomat as well as the greatest military man of all time. Greater than Alexander the Great.


  68. citizen_q
    68 | January 15, 2013 10:02 am

    O/T I believe we have discussed this story before.

    Gang of men ‘groomed girls as young as 11 for sex, trafficked them across the UK and attacked them with meat cleavers and baseball bats’

    Thank G-d they didn’t have guns! /

    A gang of nine men face accusations of grooming and horrifically abusing vulnerable girls from the age of 11 -- making their lives a ‘living hell.

    The men, all from Oxford, allegedly plied six girls with alcohol, cocaine and heroin before repeatedly raping them.

    Kamar Jamil, 27, Akthtar Dogar, 32, Anjum Dogar, 30, Assad Hussain, 32, Mohammed Karrar, 38, Bassam Karrar, 26, Mohammed Hussain, 24, Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, and Bilal Ahmed, 26, deny the charges against them.

    Gee, the accused all seem to have something in common. ////

    I wonder what it could be? /


  69. RIX
    69 | January 15, 2013 10:04 am

    @ citizen_q:
    Lutherans?


  70. Speranza
    70 | January 15, 2013 10:05 am

    @ citizen_q:
    “Asian yoots”?


  71. RIX
    71 | January 15, 2013 10:07 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Well, he was going to have more “flexibility” after the election, remember?

    And he constantly points out, “I won.”


  72. MikeA
    72 | January 15, 2013 10:13 am

    @ RIX:

    According to UK newpapers… “Asian”


  73. lobo91
    73 | January 15, 2013 10:14 am

    So, the Republicans are starting off today’s House session by reading the Constitution on the floor.

    I wonder if any of the Dems are in the chamber? They’ve probably never heard it before, and it might be informative for them.


  74. 74 | January 15, 2013 10:15 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    Not to mention all the red light and speed cameras everywhere. They keep saying its for safety (think of the children!! /// ), but they make a tidy profit.

    I have never understood how receiving a fine/ticket in the mail is anything but a cash grab. Being stopped and fined by a police officer is about safety. Since you are being punished on the spot with violating traffic laws.


  75. RIX
    75 | January 15, 2013 10:18 am

    MikeA wrote:

    @ RIX:

    According to UK newpapers… “Asian”

    They always use that term.


  76. 76 | January 15, 2013 10:18 am

    Ju@ lobo91:

    Good. Maybe they’ll have some inspiration when they get to the part about “high crimes and misdemeanors” and Obama’s dictatorial power grab.


  77. lobo91
    77 | January 15, 2013 10:18 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    I have never understood how receiving a fine/ticket in the mail is anything but a cash grab. Being stopped and fined by a police officer is about safety. Since you are being punished on the spot with violating traffic laws.

    In most cases, those cameras aren’t even owned or operated by the government. They’re run by a contractor, who gets a large portion of the fines imposed.


  78. 78 | January 15, 2013 10:21 am

    @ lobo91:

    Including the Bill of Rights? Pelosie Galore may melt like the Wicked Witch of the West…


  79. 79 | January 15, 2013 10:21 am

    @ citizen_q:
    Zoroastrians?


  80. lobo91
    80 | January 15, 2013 10:23 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Including the Bill of Rights? Pelosie Galore may melt like the Wicked Witch of the West…

    I doubt that she’s on the floor.

    She considers it a work of fiction, after all.


  81. 81 | January 15, 2013 10:27 am

    @ lobo91:

    Typical -- disregard the owner’s manual and then wonder why it’s broken.


  82. citizen_q
    82 | January 15, 2013 10:29 am

    @ PaladinPhil:
    Nobody could seriously believe it is anything but revenue, but its a lie state officials stick to.


  83. RIX
    83 | January 15, 2013 10:31 am

    The Left has now given up any pretense & now openly attack
    the Constitution, the Bill of Rights & the Founders.
    Fundemental change!


  84. unclassifiable
    84 | January 15, 2013 10:34 am

    @ lobo91:

    Will we have to pass the whole friggin’ thing again so that she finds out what’s in it?


  85. lobo91
    85 | January 15, 2013 10:44 am

    @ unclassifiable:

    She volunteered to read the part about “From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.”
    //


  86. 86 | January 15, 2013 10:45 am

    @ unclassifiable:

    Can you imagine trying to pass the Bill of Rights through a Democrat dominated Senate? I doubt you could even get the required Majority for a Constitutional Amendment in the House. The Dems are opposed to nearly everything in the Bill of Rights except the quartering of soldiers in homes.


  87. RIX
    87 | January 15, 2013 10:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Dems view the Founders as nothing but White Male slave owners.
    Therefore they reject their ideas.


  88. citizen_q
    88 | January 15, 2013 10:50 am

    O/T This is the healthcare our leaders want to emulate. Where hospitals are given incentives by the state to put the most vulnerable, elderly and infants on the Liverpool Care Pathway. It is a pathway to death where food, liquids and medicines are withheld.

    Hospitals stripped of cash bribes for ‘death pathway’ in shake-up of controversial end-of-life regime

    Hospitals will no longer be able to profit simply by putting dying patients on the Liverpool Care Pathway.

    NHS trusts have been receiving six-figure sums for using the controversial end-of-life regime.

    But care minister Norman Lamb said these ‘bribes’ would have to stop unless it was shown suffering had been reduced.

    It is feared the incentives pressure doctors to use the pathway even when a patient’s life may not be nearing its end.

    Freedom of Information requests show Aintree University Hospitals Trust, in Liverpool, received £308,000 last year for achieving ‘goals including the Liverpool Care Pathway’. Part of the money was tied to it achieving an LCP figure of 43 per cent against a target of 35 per cent.

    Salford Royal NHS Trust had LCP-linked payments halved for failing to hit targets.

    Mr Lamb, who has commissioned a review of the pathway, said payments should be made only if it can be demonstrated that individual patients have experienced reduced suffering as a direct result of being placed on the LCP.


  89. 89 | January 15, 2013 10:51 am

    @ RIX:

    Except that First Amendment. They like that one. Except the dumb religious freedom thing. Maybe they can edit that out.


  90. 90 | January 15, 2013 10:54 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    They don’t really like the First Amendment. That’s what “Hate Speech” laws are for. The only amendment they like is the Abortion Amendment. Which one is that again? I forget… :roll:


  91. citizen_q
    91 | January 15, 2013 10:55 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Dems view the Founders as nothing but White Male slave owners.
    Therefore they reject their ideas.

    Instead we should all be their slaves as we should be owned the state, and the state owned and run by them.


  92. 92 | January 15, 2013 10:56 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    A rather broad reading of the 4th -- sort of like the broad reading of the 14th they’re doing right now.


  93. RIX
    93 | January 15, 2013 10:57 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Dems view the Founders as nothing but White Male slave owners.
    Therefore they reject their ideas.

    Instead we should all be their slaves as we should be owned the state, and the state owned and run by them.

    That is pretty much their vision. Notice how Obama thinks that all wealth
    belongs to the government & he will distribute.


  94. 94 | January 15, 2013 10:58 am

    I see they’re exploring a new “pay per mile” tax instead of a gas tax because they’ve been raiding the highway funds “lockbox” again. Your share will be an extra $200 a year (but Odumbo no tax increase on the middle class folks, remember that!).


  95. The Osprey
    95 | January 15, 2013 10:59 am

    Colin Powell wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    I am no turncoat to the Republican Party. My type of Republicans are Brent Scrowcroft, James Baker, Caspar Weinberger and George HW Bush. They were sane rational men unlike the crazies like Mitt Romney and John McCain.

    I am Colin Powell and I have spoken!

    Swollen Bowel, you are the infected diverticulum in the digestive tract of the Republican Party.

    IV antibiotics, stat!


  96. 96 | January 15, 2013 11:00 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Yeah, but remember that “privacy” doesn’t include the right to privacy when it comes to publishing that you own a gun. Then they’ll put your name and address out there so that criminals will know who to rob if they want to steal guns.


  97. coldwarrior
    97 | January 15, 2013 11:06 am

    this will be political suicide


  98. The Osprey
    98 | January 15, 2013 11:07 am

    Le Majorité Silent has spoken.

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024158.html


  99. 99 | January 15, 2013 11:09 am

    @ citizen_q:

    That’s one of the most disturbing damned things I’ve read in some time. We operate on the ever more fragile assumption that “it couldn’t happen here“, but that’s literally just a tune whistled pass the graveyard and the whistling must be increasingly louder to drown out the reality that it’s all “coming soon to a hospital near you“.

    The revulsion I feel is indescribable.


  100. 100 | January 15, 2013 11:10 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Interesting, no? They want more fuel efficient cars which means less gas which means fewer taxes. So they need to reach in your wallet the other way.

    It reminds me of the ever increasing tolls on the Bay Bridge. They raise the toll to drive you to public transportation. Then they increase the toll because so many people are taking public transportation now that they don’t have as much money.


  101. 101 | January 15, 2013 11:10 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I don’t think it will go anywhere, but it is a prime example of the Liberal Mind on display. They require cars to become more fuel efficient, then want to tax people for having fuel-efficient cars.


  102. coldwarrior
    102 | January 15, 2013 11:11 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    @ Iron Fist:

    they quit teaching economics in schools for a reason.


  103. 103 | January 15, 2013 11:12 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Amazing that while Colon’s Bowel spews his particular brand of smear on the “racial intolerance” of the Republican party, the only Black Senator is GOP, the only Hispanic Senators are GOP and IIRC, wasn’t Powell urged to run by many in the GOP for President and only bowed our because his wife told him she didn’t want him to run?

    I guess he and I don’t use the same dictionary.


  104. 104 | January 15, 2013 11:13 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I know -- let’s mint a $1 trillion coin! That’ll fix EVERYTHING!


  105. 105 | January 15, 2013 11:14 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    It won’t be a tax -- that will require Congress. He’ll have the EPA issue a regulation.


  106. 106 | January 15, 2013 11:15 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Hmm…didn’t they want us to be more like FRANCE??


  107. 107 | January 15, 2013 11:18 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Ah, the joys of being a dictator! I am really worried about what his 19 Executive “actions” on gun control will be. I have a feeling he is going to shoot for the moon. I hope that the Supree Court will have the balls to slap him down. I don’ tknow how much faith I have in that hope, though.


  108. 108 | January 15, 2013 11:22 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    It’s interesting to me that he goes after the NRA, which is an organization that promotes gun safety and responsible ownership like no other, and doesn’t say Boo about the thugs and homeboys turning the inner cities into a shooting gallery.


  109. The Osprey
    109 | January 15, 2013 11:29 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    Hmm…didn’t they want us to be more like FRANCE??

    Given the recent events in or involving France, the occupation of the Poitiers mosque by Generation Identitaire, the attack on Al-Qaeda in Mali and now this huge march against gay marriage, I think the French are going to undergo a political shift in favor of defense of traditional Western values that is going to shock both conservatives and liberals alike in this country.


  110. citizen_q
    110 | January 15, 2013 11:31 am

    @ MacDuff:
    Same here.

    The UK mail has been reporting stories on the Liverpool Care Pathway with some regularity.

    It is state sponsored murder.

    There was one article in the UK mail that I posted here a few weeks ago that included testimony about infants that have been put on LCP. He said they took an average of 9 days to die. He further described watching them shrivel up before his eyes!


  111. 111 | January 15, 2013 11:37 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    He has the oppertunity, if he really wanted to, to really do something about that. He could come out for Fatherhood and the traditional family, and talk about how th ehook-up, baby-mama ulture is destroyin gthe black youth, but that would be contrary to his desires. If you look at Liberal policy, it is inescapable how bad it has been for minorities. The homicide rate in the black community is a symptom, not of guns, but of the breakdown of society. Obama could address that. He is, if he’d take the oppertunity, almost uniquely qualified to address how bad it is growing up without a dad. But he won’t do it. Becauuse the Democrats like what is going on in the black community. It keeps them dependant on the State, and that means that they’ll vote Democrat.


  112. Da_Beerfreak
    112 | January 15, 2013 11:45 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    In MD families making over $100K a year are now rich and are being fleeced a bit more for their fair share.

    Not to mention all the red light and speed cameras everywhere. They keep saying its for safety (think of the children!! /// ), but they make a tidy profit.

    That’s one thing Minnesota has gotten right. All traffic cameras in the state were declared unconstitutional by the State Supreme Court and all collected fines ordered returned to the drivers that paid them. :grin:


  113. citizen_q
    113 | January 15, 2013 11:53 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Good for them!

    The socialists here in MD are of the type that everything belongs to the state except their stuff, and we should be happy with what they allow us to keep.


  114. Mars
    114 | January 15, 2013 12:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Harry Reid dounbts the Senate will pass a new “Assault Weapons” ban:

    Evan McMorris-Santoro January 14, 2013, 6:35 PM 15509The Democratically-controlled U.S. Senate will not be a free-for-all of new gun regulations following the shooting at Sandy Hook, according to Majority Leader Harry Reid. Instead, Senators will focus on passing legislation that can move through the Republican-controlled House, Reid said.
    That could spell doom for an assault weapons ban. Speaking on Nevada Week In Review, a news show on the PBS affiliate in Las Vegas, Reid said there’s no real chance of a new ban passing the House.
    “Is it something that can pass the Senate? Maybe. Is it something that can pass the House? I doubt it,” he said in video of the program provided to TPM by Vegas PBS. “So I think there are things that we know we can do.”

    As I’ve said, I don’t think that the 14 or so Democrat Senators who are up for re-election in 2014 want to die on the AWB hill. I’m sure they’d rather the issue didn’t even come up for a vote. The real worry is what will Obama do with EOs.

    Why do you think Reid and the rest of the dems are running to the press to say this? That way they can say it was all the EO’s and they had no real power over it. They keep their NRA rating, Obama gets his way, and only the American public loses.


  115. buzzsawmonkey
    115 | January 15, 2013 12:00 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Except that First Amendment. They like that one. Except the dumb religious freedom thing. Maybe they can edit that out.

    Religious freedom and freedom of speech go down this Spring, when the Supreme Court rules that same-sex marriage is a constitutionally-mandated “civil right.” The Tenth Amendment will bite the dust, too.


  116. Mars
    116 | January 15, 2013 12:10 pm

    This thread seems to be dying but I’ll put this out here anyway.

    I was in the military during Klintons cuts. What does not get cut is waste. What does get cut is fuel for training aircraft, security vehicles, etc. What does get cut is light bulbs for the dorms, what does get cut is repair materials for the dorms. Only the troops suffer. Million dollar hammers do not get cut. Essential services do get cut.


  117. Da_Beerfreak
    117 | January 15, 2013 12:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    this will be political suicide

    Has little to do with collecting more tax monies. It’s been a long time goal of the Government to be able to track and record an individual’s movements. This would be a total violation privacy.


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