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The Daily Beast dumps Andrew “Trig truther” Sullivan

by Speranza ( 100 Comments › )
Filed under Media at January 15th, 2013 - 2:30 pm

Andrew Sullivan (obsessed by Sarah Palin’s uterus while becoming a rabid anti-Semite)  is so demented that I would not even think that the Stalinist rag “The Nation” would touch him. In his descent into madness he has mirrored a certain heavy set, double chinned, unemployed jazz guitarist who has dabbled in blogging with varying degrees of success.

by John Nolte

According to a credible source with inside knowledge of the matter, the actual  reason Andrew Sullivan and the Daily Beast are parting ways at the end of this month has nothing to do with some high-falutin’ “duty to try and see if we could help break some new ground” and “pioneer” a “solid future for web journalism.” According to this source, who spoke exclusively with Breitbart News, the powers that be at the Daily Beast decided the traffic Sullivan’s Daily Dish delivered just wasn’t worth the price of holding on to him for another year.

In other words, the Daily Beast did not renew Andrew Sullivan’s contract, and he was let go.

Though Sullivan never came out and said directly that it was his choice to leave the Beast, the carefully worded  January 2 post announcing the move most certainly left the impression that the reason for the separation didn’t involve him being dumped. Rather, that this was all about Sullivan and his editorial staff making a scary/brave decision to embark on a new adventure involving a completely independent, subscription-based blog:

And so, as we contemplated the end of our contract with the Beast at the end of 2012, we faced a decision. …

The only completely clear and transparent way to do this, we concluded, was to become totally independent of other media entities and rely entirely on you for our salaries, health insurance, and legal, technological and accounting expenses. …

So, as of February 1, we will revert to our old URL – www.andrewsullivan.com. All previous URLs will automatically redirect, so don’t worry about losing us. Until then, the Beast has generously agreed to keep us on so we can organize ourselves in time for the launch. In fact, Tina and Barry have been fully supportive of this decision once we made it, although we’re all sad to part ways.

The impression is so strong, that David Carr of The New York Times linked to the post Friday and wrote,  ”On Wednesday, Andrew Sullivan, one of the pioneers of the blogging Web, decided to end his relationship with The Daily Beast[.]”

Except, according to our source, it wasn’t Sullivan’s decision.

[.......]

There’s no question Sullivan is a popular blogger. The question, though, is among whom and how many? Obviously, the elite media adores Sarah Palin’s Primary Womb Detective, as do enough people, apparently, to get Sully Telethon 2013 over the $300,000 mark in a little over 24 hours. But a look at some other data points might help to make sense of the Daily Beast’s decision to cut its losses.

For a blogger with a media profile as big as Sullivan’s, the fact that he has fewer than 75,000 Twitter followers is a bit surprising. By comparison, Ben Smith has over 125,000, Dave Weigel over 98,000, and Michelle Malkin (who Sullivan has named an unflattering award after) has more than the three of them combined.

Furthermore, a quick scan of the Daily Dish front page, which holds around 40 individual posts, reveals that (as of this writing Friday afternoon) only one post has received more than a hundred Facebooks “Likes,” and 24 have fewer than ten. [........]

Another mystery our source may have cleared up is why Beast proprietor, Tina Brown, would allow Sullivan to stay on a full month after announcing a decision to leave. Allowing Sullivan a full month’s perch on her site to raise money for his own operation makes more sense in a situation where it was her decision to part ways, not his.

You can’t blame Sullivan for putting the best face possible on the situation. But he’s also someone who frequently writes about the special relationship he has with his readers.  [......]

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100 Responses to “The Daily Beast dumps Andrew “Trig truther” Sullivan”
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  1. waldensianspirit
    1 | January 15, 2013 2:37 pm

    The League of the Self-Deluded


  2. buzzsawmonkey
    2 | January 15, 2013 2:48 pm

    New Buzz Ballad up at PJM: “Carry Guns.”

    Comments, as always, solicited.


  3. song_and_dance_man
    3 | January 15, 2013 2:52 pm

    Ahhh….too bad. And to think how well the names Andrew Sullivan and Daily Beast go together.


  4. 4 | January 15, 2013 3:02 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Very good, and so true. You could have thrown in a line about genocide and the role of gun control there, but other than that it was spot on.


  5. buzzsawmonkey
    5 | January 15, 2013 3:05 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Thanks! Leave a comment at the Tatler, please, if you can. I’ll try and get them to rescue it if for some reason it goes spam-ward.


  6. song_and_dance_man
    6 | January 15, 2013 3:05 pm

    In his descent into madness he has mirrored a certain heavy set, double chinned, unemployed jazz guitarist who has dabbled in blogging with varying degrees of success.

    You must mean Foster and his being dumped leaving PJ Media.

    snicker


  7. 7 | January 15, 2013 3:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Done!


  8. buzzsawmonkey
    8 | January 15, 2013 3:18 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Thanks!


  9. darkwords
    9 | January 15, 2013 3:18 pm

    Low information voter gored.


  10. darkwords
  11. buzzsawmonkey
    11 | January 15, 2013 3:22 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    New low info voters arrive at Chicago airport.

    Special accessories ordered by Jihadi Home Decorating™?


  12. song_and_dance_man
    12 | January 15, 2013 3:22 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    New low info voters arrive at Chicago airport.

    More votes for the Left?


  13. RIX
    13 | January 15, 2013 3:24 pm

    When the Dear Leader gives anti-gun briefing, he will be joined
    by “children”
    There is no demagogue depth too low for him to sink.


  14. buzzsawmonkey
    14 | January 15, 2013 3:24 pm

    RIX wrote:

    When the Dear Leader gives anti-gun briefing, he will be joined
    by “children”

    Human shields.


  15. citizen_q
    15 | January 15, 2013 3:35 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    When the Dear Leader gives anti-gun briefing, he will be joined
    by “children”
    Human shields.

    I feel so much better being stripped of my civil rights on the advice of coached children.

    Wonder how bit-me feels about being upstaged?


  16. song_and_dance_man
    16 | January 15, 2013 3:36 pm

    RIX wrote:

    When the Dear Leader gives anti-gun briefing, he will be joined
    by “children”

    Yeah. When I first heard it I thought they were talking about the (D) majority and minority leaders of Congress.


  17. 17 | January 15, 2013 3:39 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Hey I responded to you on the previous thread. The last comment at the bottom.


  18. 18 | January 15, 2013 3:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Very good, and so true. You could have thrown in a line about genocide and the role of gun control there, but other than that it was spot on.

    Yup Guns prevent genocide!


  19. Tanker
    19 | January 15, 2013 3:40 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Also done!


  20. buzzsawmonkey
    20 | January 15, 2013 3:41 pm

    @ Tanker:

    Thank you!


  21. 21 | January 15, 2013 3:43 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I responded. It is really disheartening. I almost believe that the Republicans are making a mistake not trying to get the White vote to vote as solidly Republican as the Black and Hispanic vote go Democrat. Racial pandering seems to go a very long way.


  22. buzzsawmonkey
    22 | January 15, 2013 3:43 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    You could have thrown in a line about genocide and the role of gun control there

    True, now that you mention it—but one is limited a bit by the syllables and rhyme scheme. In any event, I figure dealing with tyranny and self-defense sort of covers that at the most basic level.


  23. Speranza
    23 | January 15, 2013 3:49 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Ahhh….too bad. And to think how well the names Andrew Sullivan and Daily Beast go together.

    The guys form Powerline refer to Sullivan’s blog “The Daily Dish” as “The Daily Ditch”.


  24. Speranza
    24 | January 15, 2013 3:50 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    You must mean Foster and his being dumped leaving PJ Media.

    snicker

    I still am curious as to how and why that went down.


  25. Speranza
    25 | January 15, 2013 3:51 pm

    RIX wrote:

    When the Dear Leader gives anti-gun briefing, he will be joined
    by “children”
    There is no demagogue depth too low for him to sink.

    Never under estimate his monstrous ego.


  26. 26 | January 15, 2013 3:51 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I almost believe that the Republicans are making a mistake not trying to get the White vote to vote as solidly Republican as the Black and Hispanic vote go Democrat.

    The problem is many Whites are married to Hispanics and Asians, so it would not work. I would change my registration asap to Libertarian if that happened.

    Infrastructure and outreach is the answer.


  27. 27 | January 15, 2013 3:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Infrastructure and outreach is the answer.

    I don’ t see how that happens. From what you’ve said, their minds are already closed. They chose their man-god over God, after all. I don’t think the Republicans can compete.


  28. Speranza
    28 | January 15, 2013 3:53 pm

    I would like for Charles Johnson to take a dump on Andrew Sullivan, except he probably would enjoy that.


  29. Speranza
    29 | January 15, 2013 3:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I almost believe that the Republicans are making a mistake not trying to get the White vote to vote as solidly Republican as the Black and Hispanic vote go Democrat.
    The problem is many Whites are married to Hispanics and Asians, so it would not work. I would change my registration asap to Libertarian if that happened.
    Infrastructure and outreach is the answer.

    I agree, and a commitment to expanding the party. We have seen too man people wanting to almost restrict the party.


  30. RIX
    30 | January 15, 2013 3:56 pm

    @ Speranza:
    Obama has a great self-image, really great.


  31. song_and_dance_man
    31 | January 15, 2013 3:56 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I still am curious as to how and why that went down.

    IIRC Dennis the Peasant got info that Simon and Foster disagreed on which way the Newslet was aiming for. In the background they were probably like Hannity and Colmes. Foster not yet completely outing himself as the Prog he had always been.


  32. 32 | January 15, 2013 3:58 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I don’t know any Hispanic who views Obama as a man god. They see he’s not a Republican. They get this perception because Republicans don’t do any outreach nor counter Democratic propaganda. If you only get one side of the story, who do you believe?

    If the GOP does not build infrastructure not just with Hispanics, bust Asians and younger voters, they are toast nationally. Honestly, except for Bush no other republican did outreach nor tried to get Hispanic votes.


  33. 33 | January 15, 2013 3:59 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Infrastructure is the key. Then again, Republicans don’t even counter Dem lies with the general public. Nor does the GOP has the national infrastructure the Dems have. So it’s bigger than a Hispanic or Asian problem. The GOP has a national problem.


  34. eaglesoars
    34 | January 15, 2013 4:00 pm

    BUZZ!!

    Tatler won’t load for me -- I’ll try again later……


  35. 35 | January 15, 2013 4:04 pm

    Getting back to Sullivan, this man needs to be in a mental institute.


  36. eaglesoars
    36 | January 15, 2013 4:20 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Getting back to Sullivan, this man needs to be in a mental institute.

    I’ve known quite a few HIV-positive people who just go off the rails. True mental cases.

    (Buzz, I got into Tatler and commented)


  37. buzzsawmonkey
    37 | January 15, 2013 4:22 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    (Buzz, I got into Tatler and commented)

    Thanks! Much appreciated!


  38. song_and_dance_man
    38 | January 15, 2013 4:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Getting back to Sullivan, this man needs to be in a mental institute.

    Maybe Foster has a spare bedroom.


  39. eaglesoars
    39 | January 15, 2013 4:38 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Maybe Foster has a spare bedroom.

    In his head. Sully could live there rent-free.


  40. unclassifiable
    40 | January 15, 2013 4:47 pm

    @ Rodan:

    He is possibly one of the most classically hysterical people in print. I mean he really loses it. And that is saying something given the anonimity that the internet could provide if he wasn’t such a diva.


  41. 41 | January 15, 2013 4:54 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Well now Andrew can be a full-time contributor to the Blog Nobody Reads.


  42. eaglesoars
    42 | January 15, 2013 4:54 pm

    I need a nap.

    Later


  43. 43 | January 15, 2013 5:01 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Boy, I miss Dennis the Peasant… I was sure waiting for more of “the Westerville Chronicles.” That was some hurt yourself laughing stuff…


  44. unclassifiable
    44 | January 15, 2013 5:02 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I think a real problem is that the GOP has to get State Reps and City Councilmen elected first in the blue areas they want to change before trying to get Federal level representatives elected. A lot of the urban Dem reps at the state and local level are ossified and ripe for the picking if someone got motivated.


  45. RIX
    45 | January 15, 2013 5:08 pm

    They are discussing Obama using children as props for his
    anti-gun pitch on The Five,
    Surprise, Beckle sees nothing wrong with it.


  46. song_and_dance_man
    46 | January 15, 2013 5:10 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    I’d forgotten about the Chronicle. He was right there with Iowahawk in humor.


  47. song_and_dance_man
    47 | January 15, 2013 5:10 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Beckle sees nothing wrong with it.

    That’s because he sees them as his peers.


  48. RIX
    48 | January 15, 2013 5:16 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Beckle sees nothing wrong with it.

    That’s because he sees them as his peers.

    Excellent point. He is a disgusting individual.


  49. song_and_dance_man
    49 | January 15, 2013 5:22 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    I think a real problem is that the GOP has to get State Reps and City Councilmen elected first in the blue areas they want to change before trying to get Federal level representatives elected. A lot of the urban Dem reps at the state and local level are ossified and ripe for the picking if someone got motivated.

    Good points all. This is what the local tea parties need to do first rather than trying to get in at the state and fed level.


  50. song_and_dance_man
    50 | January 15, 2013 5:34 pm

    A new thread has been disappeared


  51. Speranza
    51 | January 15, 2013 5:35 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Well now Andrew can be a full-time contributor to the Blog Nobody Reads.

    He and Chuckles can be BFF’s.


  52. Speranza
    52 | January 15, 2013 5:37 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Obama has a great self-image, really great.

    only exceeded by his modesty.


  53. Speranza
    53 | January 15, 2013 5:38 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    IIRC Dennis the Peasant got info that Simon and Foster disagreed on which way the Newslet was aiming for. In the background they were probably like Hannity and Colmes. Foster not yet completely outing himself as the Prog he had always been.

    I always thought CJ felt as if he should be running the show.


  54. unclassifiable
    54 | January 15, 2013 6:02 pm

    @ RIX:

    I really wonder if Obama sees everyone as props.

    Well I guess if you are one (for Soros and gang) then that would be natural.


  55. song_and_dance_man
    55 | January 15, 2013 6:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I always thought CJ felt as if he should be running the show.

    That is probably close to the truth, and I bet it had to do with Simon wanting to portal mostly conservative journalists. They were getting people like Malkin, Podhorest, Briebart and Reynolds types interested.


  56. 56 | January 15, 2013 6:13 pm

    The very first PJM meeting was of 3 people -- Chaz, The Raj and DtP. DtP, being a businessman, was singularly unimpressed.


  57. 57 | January 15, 2013 6:15 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    BTW, the very best article regarding the launch of what became PJM was, of course, by Iowahawk.


  58. song_and_dance_man
    58 | January 15, 2013 6:16 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    Didn’t Dennis claim that Foster stabbed him in the back, or something like that, over the deal?

    Let me google that.


  59. lobo91
    59 | January 15, 2013 6:18 pm

    So much for that whole “separation of powers” thing…

    Shocker: Steny Hoyer Thinks Obama Acting Like A Dictator On Gun Control Is An Awesome Idea…

    House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said he has not received a briefing from the White House on gun legislation, but he supports using executive orders to achieve some of the president’s goals.

    “I think the president, to the extent that he has executive powers to deal with this issue, to try to make Americans safer, both has a responsibility and an intent to do so,” Hoyer said. “I’m not fully apprised of all actions he intends to take, I know the number suggested as possibilities for him to take action. I think the executive of our nation pledged to keep Americans safe, not only abroad but here as well, I think he would be well-advised to take such action as appropriate.”


  60. 60 | January 15, 2013 6:21 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I would like for Charles Johnson to take a dump on Andrew Sullivan, except he probably would enjoy that.

    [Deleted]


  61. unclassifiable
    61 | January 15, 2013 6:21 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I settle for separation of Dem congressmen from Obama’s butt.


  62. 62 | January 15, 2013 6:21 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Remember The Great Google Boycott by the original PJM? It was a matter of principle and internet freedom. Lasted all the way up until that first Google ad dollar hit the PJM account, and was never heard of again. 2005? That’s when I started thinking Chaz was a crock. Never cared for The Raj in the first place.


  63. huckfunn
    63 | January 15, 2013 6:22 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    I replied to your question on the NRA Convention Thread. Sorry that I missed it earlier.


  64. song_and_dance_man
    64 | January 15, 2013 6:26 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    The very first PJM meeting was of 3 people — Chaz, The Raj and DtP. DtP, being a businessman, was singularly unimpressed.

    Yep. You’re right. Dennis was underwhelmed. No links, but that is what happened. Simon later claimed there was no deal with Kelly—just talk.


  65. song_and_dance_man
    65 | January 15, 2013 6:28 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    “I think the president, to the extent that he has executive powers to deal with this issue, to try to make Americans safer, both has a responsibility and an intent to do so,”

    Well the answer is to resign. Both of them.


  66. lobo91
    66 | January 15, 2013 6:28 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    “I think the president, to the extent that he has executive powers to deal with this issue, to try to make Americans safer, both has a responsibility and an intent to do so,”
    Well the answer is to resign. Both of them.

    or be removed from office.


  67. song_and_dance_man
    67 | January 15, 2013 6:29 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    I settle for separation of Dem congressmen from Obama’s butt.

    Jaws of Life are needed for that.


  68. lobo91
    68 | January 15, 2013 6:35 pm

    Apparently now believing that the Constitution means what it says makes you an extremist…

    LA Dem Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa: Obama Must Act Like A Dictator On Debt Ceiling To Stop GOP “Extremists” From Putting Us In Default…

    Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, speaking at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., on Monday, said that if it comes to it, the president should invoke the 14th Amendment, because the U.S. “can’t let extremists put us in default.”

    “I would hope it wouldn’t come to that, but if it has to, it must,” Villaraigosa said when asked whether President Barack Obama should “invoke the 14th Amendment and ignore Congress to deal with the debt ceiling.”

    “We can’t let extremists put us in default and play chicken with the full faith and credit of the United States of America,” the mayor said. “And that’s what they are.”


  69. Speranza
    69 | January 15, 2013 6:36 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    I always thought CJ felt as if he should be running the show.

    That is probably close to the truth, and I bet it had to do with Simon wanting to portal mostly conservative journalists. They were getting people like Malkin, Podhorest, Briebart and Reynolds types interested.

    I wonder if the termination agreement included remaining silent about CJ’s departure.


  70. lobo91
    70 | January 15, 2013 6:37 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Since he was the same person who decided to ignore the obvious majority of the Dem delegates who voted to remove God from their platform, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by his ignorance.


  71. Speranza
    71 | January 15, 2013 6:37 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    The very first PJM meeting was of 3 people — Chaz, The Raj and DtP. DtP, being a businessman, was singularly unimpressed.

    Meanwhile PJM is still around and Dennis the Peasant closed his blog down over a year ago (which I used to enjoy for his ridicule of Debbie Schlussel and “pammy cakes”).


  72. heysoos
    72 | January 15, 2013 6:39 pm

    ignoring the Constitution is a dangerous game to play…these people should consider their health and welfare


  73. Da_Beerfreak
    73 | January 15, 2013 6:43 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    I settle for separation of Dem congressmen from Obama’s butt.

    Why stop there?? Lets separate all the D’Rats from the United States; send them off to Europa or Africa.


  74. heysoos
    74 | January 15, 2013 6:45 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    nah, keep them around to pick lettuce and clean toilets…they need a harsh dose of reality


  75. song_and_dance_man
    75 | January 15, 2013 6:50 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I wonder if the termination agreement included remaining silent about CJ’s departure.

    And I wonder if it had something to do with his coming-out-of-his-Prog-closet and the subsequent banning jihad.


  76. unclassifiable
    76 | January 15, 2013 6:51 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Yes sir. Email sent.


  77. song_and_dance_man
    77 | January 15, 2013 6:51 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by his ignorance.

    More like malfeasance.


  78. song_and_dance_man
    78 | January 15, 2013 6:52 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    Yes sir.

    Ruh roh.


  79. unclassifiable
    79 | January 15, 2013 6:54 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Make sure we keep those jobs separate. These idiots won’t wash their hands without an order from the Won.


  80. unclassifiable
    80 | January 15, 2013 6:55 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Wha?


  81. song_and_dance_man
    81 | January 15, 2013 7:04 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    It’s just a bit of funn. I may be mistaken, but I was under the impression huck is a ma’am and not a sir.


  82. unclassifiable
    82 | January 15, 2013 7:05 pm

    @ lobo91:

    OK Rodan, this Hispanic pisses me off.


  83. unclassifiable
    83 | January 15, 2013 7:06 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    OOOOOPS!

    Violated the first rule of the internet.

    Assume nothing.


  84. 84 | January 15, 2013 7:08 pm

    For perspective, Dave “Weasel” Weigel was the biggest douche at Reason, which newsmagazine wasn’t exactly full of the most socially apt writers and commenters itself. As I recall his parting shot to Reason went something like, “Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to return to my rewarding job and large circle of friends”. That man doesn’t deserve any followers at all; and he’s got “over 98,000″.

    Even Weasel Dave beat out Sullivan handily.


  85. unclassifiable
    85 | January 15, 2013 7:14 pm

    Got backbone?

    via Drudge


  86. huckfunn
    86 | January 15, 2013 7:28 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ unclassifiable:
    It’s just a bit of funn. I may be mistaken, but I was under the impression huck is a ma’am and not a sir.

    Umm… when and how did you fall under that mistaken impression?


  87. Bumr50
    87 | January 15, 2013 7:31 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    LMAO!!


  88. unclassifiable
    88 | January 15, 2013 7:37 pm

    @ huckfunn:
    @ Bumr50:

    Maybe it was one of Bunk’s Friday night cross dressing threads?

    Man this is damn funny. :-D


  89. huckfunn
    89 | January 15, 2013 7:38 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    I’m probably just 1 of 20 people on the planet who never saw that movie. I still don’t get it.


  90. song_and_dance_man
    90 | January 15, 2013 7:43 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Umm… when and how did you fall under that mistaken impression?

    I’m not sure, but that is the impression I’ve had. It’s hard to distinguish with just a nic, unless it’s like mine where ‘man’ is at the end. I did this not to long ago with eaglesoars—thinking she was a he.

    Oh well, sorry…moving on.

    Did you ever see the funny exchange between me and evariste back in the day at 1.0? Now that was funny and it dominated the thread for the night.


  91. unclassifiable
    91 | January 15, 2013 7:43 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I wouldn’t worry too much about that.

    Every time I see a “reality” show when flipping channels I wonder who the heck thought that was reality?


  92. buzzsawmonkey
    92 | January 15, 2013 7:45 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I’m probably just 1 of 20 people on the planet who never saw that movie. I still don’t get it.

    It was one of the greatest drag shows ever. For the people who were into drag shows, it was an affirmation; for youngsters, it was a proxy means of “touching” sex without having to actually engage in it. For the sexually experienced/weary, the late-night showings were both a way to vicariously recapture a long-lost innocence and to troll for new, corruptible partners. The songs are well-written and -performed, and there are enough visual jokes and outre film references to make people feel that they were participating in a form of Special Knowledge by attending.

    Probably more than any one other single thing, this film was primary in normalizing the mores of the gay-bar lifestyle in mainstream America in the late ’70s/early ’80s, before the AIDS epidemic hit.


  93. song_and_dance_man
    93 | January 15, 2013 7:47 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    I’m probably just 1 of 20 people on the planet who never saw that movie. I still don’t get it.

    I’m one of the 1 in other 20.


  94. unclassifiable
    94 | January 15, 2013 7:47 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Now you’re giving me a complex about my nic! :-D :-D :-D :-D


  95. song_and_dance_man
    95 | January 15, 2013 7:50 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Now you’re giving me a complex about my nic!

    Not to worry. Your gravatar is clearly a man. But… I can’t see any facial hair.


  96. unclassifiable
    96 | January 15, 2013 7:52 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    unclassifiable wrote:
    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Now you’re giving me a complex about my nic!
    Not to worry. Your gravatar is clearly a man. But… I can’t see any facial hair.

    Funny thing, neither can I for some reason.


  97. huckfunn
    97 | January 15, 2013 8:10 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    The interwebs is a peculiar and interesting medium. I sometimes sit back and watch virtual fistfights on this blog and have no idea how they started, even after going back and reading the preceding comments. Quite a bit lost in communication when one can’t hear or see vocal or facial expressions.


  98. huckfunn
    98 | January 15, 2013 8:12 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Probably more than any one other single thing, this film was primary in normalizing the mores of the gay-bar lifestyle in mainstream America in the late ’70s/early ’80s, before the AIDS epidemic hit.

    Hmmm. Just as I suspected. Now I’m really not going to see it.


  99. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | January 15, 2013 8:22 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Now I’m really not going to see it.

    Think of it as research.


  100. Speranza
    100 | January 15, 2013 8:33 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ huckfunn:
    LMAO!!

    I think that is Charles Johnson when he lets loose.


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