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Brian Lilley: Muslim Madness in Mali

by 1389AD ( 94 Comments › )
Filed under Africa, Al Qaeda, France at January 16th, 2013 - 5:00 pm

Sun News has the story:

Published on Jan 14, 2013 by SDAMatt2a
Brian Lilley and J.D. Gordon discuss the mess in Mali, created in part by stupid Western politicians who refused and continue to refuse to see the islamofascism that is central to the so-called “Arab Spring.”

War in northern Mali - click for larger view

Also see:

France24: Mali-based Islamists pledge attacks on French soil


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94 Responses to “Brian Lilley: Muslim Madness in Mali”
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  1. coldwarrior
    1 | January 16, 2013 5:10 pm

    looks like some prime training ground for the french foreign legion.


  2. heysoos
    2 | January 16, 2013 5:11 pm

    two words…
    quagmire


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | January 16, 2013 5:14 pm

    @ heysoos:

    as long as someone is killing muslims i am happy.

    can i buy the légion étrangère a pizza?


  4. 4 | January 16, 2013 5:16 pm

    So, what we have here is another shining example of the frightful subsequent consequence to the enactment of the Kumbayah school of foreign policy. Outstanding!


  5. quiet man
    5 | January 16, 2013 5:16 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Naw//the French will surrender pretty soon..and Obama will begin the lying process about how we are not really involved there.


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | January 16, 2013 5:18 pm

    France’s Operation Serval has got under way, with fierce fighting in Diabaly between Islamists, French special forces and a Foreign Legion unit trained in desert warfare. At the same time, a column of 30 Sagaie armoured vehicles attacked rebel positions in the town of Niono, around 200 miles from the capital, while fighter-bombers struck at half a dozen targets, including the headquarters of the “Islamic Police” at the village of Niafunké.


  7. RIX
    7 | January 16, 2013 5:19 pm

    If you take a step back & size up what’s going on with Islam, it’s insanity.
    They are murderous toward those not like them, meaning not Muslims,
    or worse apostates.
    Yet we are told by our snarky elites that we should celebrate diversity &
    if you notice anything you are an Islamophobic bigot.


  8. heysoos
    8 | January 16, 2013 5:19 pm

    I wonder what French policy toward waterboarding is


  9. coldwarrior
    9 | January 16, 2013 5:20 pm

    Mali (where Timbuktu is located), is a former French colony. And French troops are already scattered in that area. France, through its Foreign Legion, has a century of experience of dealing with North and Central Africa.

    if they let the légion étrangère lead, this will be over rather quickly.


  10. 10 | January 16, 2013 5:21 pm

    This is due to our overthrowing Qaddafi. Another big win fro Democracy.


  11. lobo91
    11 | January 16, 2013 5:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I wonder what French policy toward waterboarding is

    They’re only allowed to use Evian.


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | January 16, 2013 5:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    This is due to our overthrowing Qaddafi. Another big win fro Democracy.

    yep. the colonel had all these cowards too scared to operate. now he’s dead and the ‘brave muslims’ come out to fight.


  13. 13 | January 16, 2013 5:22 pm

    When will they address the muslim madness on their own soil?


  14. heysoos
    14 | January 16, 2013 5:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I wonder what French policy toward waterboarding is
    They’re only allowed to use Evian.

    good one


  15. 15 | January 16, 2013 5:24 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    They’re only allowed to use Evian.

    For the really hardened terrorists, they use Perrier.


  16. 16 | January 16, 2013 5:29 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    It doesn’t matter to Obama, Clinton, McCain and Ms. Lindsey. It’s all about Democracy!


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | January 16, 2013 5:31 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    It doesn’t matter to Obama, Clinton, McCain and Ms. Lindsey. It’s all about Democracy!

    john mccain’s friends.

    good luck to the légion étrangère!


  18. heysoos
    18 | January 16, 2013 5:31 pm

    we are doing our best to assure that Islamic killers continue to have third world countries to over run and pillage…this will go on forever


  19. buzzsawmonkey
    19 | January 16, 2013 5:37 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    we are doing our best to assure that Islamic killers continue to have third world countries to over run and pillage…this will go on forever

    “It takes a pillage to raze a child.”
    —Hillary Clinton


  20. 20 | January 16, 2013 5:40 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    we are doing our best to assure that Islamic killers continue to have third world countries to over run and pillage…this will go on forever

    Yup its a bi-partisan disgrace.


  21. yenta-fada
    21 | January 16, 2013 5:47 pm

    When you get retaliation for Muslim attacks, the Canadian Bnai Brith sends out warnings to the Jewish community. Of course, when Paleostine is involved, it’s much worse.

    NOBODY sees a common factor in 98% of ALL WARS GOING ON AT THIS MINUTE!!!!! The world is stupid. Willfully, actively, dangerously, stooped.

    That’s why I luv you guys.


  22. coldwarrior
    22 | January 16, 2013 5:48 pm

    competitive devaluation.

    coming to a currency near you


  23. coldwarrior
    23 | January 16, 2013 5:56 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    NOBODY sees a common factor in 98% of ALL WARS GOING ON AT THIS MINUTE!!!!! The world is stupid. Willfully, actively, dangerously, stooped.

    willfully.


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | January 16, 2013 6:00 pm

    NOWHERE does music have a greater social and political importance than in the vast desert state of Mali.

    It is shocking therefore that it has been banned across much of the two-thirds of Mali controlled by Islamist rebel groups.

    its not shocking at all. its what these guys do. its joyless, humorless, islam


  25. eaglesoars
    25 | January 16, 2013 6:01 pm

    So we have another hostage situation. Good work, zero.


  26. heysoos
    26 | January 16, 2013 6:12 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    NOWHERE does music have a greater social and political importance than in the vast desert state of Mali.
    It is shocking therefore that it has been banned across much of the two-thirds of Mali controlled by Islamist rebel groups.
    its not shocking at all. its what these guys do. its joyless, humorless, islam

    lets hope the FL brings them some joy, some raisins


  27. song_and_dance_man
    27 | January 16, 2013 6:13 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    There is NO fun in Islam


  28. heysoos
    28 | January 16, 2013 6:15 pm

    not much in the news about the US trained counter terror troops we equipped with our best stuff…when the bad guys came, they turned…took all our high tech gear, vehicles and know how with them…good job, Brownie


  29. coldwarrior
    29 | January 16, 2013 6:19 pm

    @ heysoos:
    pretty neat how that works, huh?


  30. Speranza
    30 | January 16, 2013 6:19 pm

    Contrary to myths -- the French Army has always been an excellent army. The problems were bad leadership both military (oftentimes reactionary and overly political) and political.


  31. Speranza
    31 | January 16, 2013 6:20 pm

    Post World War II, French weaponry has been excellent as well -- particularly the Mystere and Mirage jets. The IDF/AF will attest to that.


  32. Speranza
    32 | January 16, 2013 6:21 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    There is NO fun in Islam

    No mercy either.


  33. Tanker
    33 | January 16, 2013 6:25 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Contrary to myths — the French Army has always been an excellent army. The problems were bad leadership both military (oftentimes reactionary and overly political) and political.

    Bad Army leaders = Bad Army. Seems to be where we are headed!

    I take it you’ve never had to actually work with the French military!


  34. Moe Katz
    34 | January 16, 2013 6:25 pm

    There is also no ‘W’ in Islam (important to know for Scrabble players).


  35. AZfederalist
    35 | January 16, 2013 6:31 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Post World War II, French weaponry has been excellent as well — particularly the Mystere and Mirage jets. The IDF/AF will attest to that.

    Yeah, and like the skid row hooker, they’ll sell their hardware to anybody who has the money to pay for it. When analyzing threats, French weaponry is on the list of gray-force threats.


  36. coldwarrior
    36 | January 16, 2013 6:37 pm

    pure glam

    A 1974 Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow purchased by Freddie Mercury’s production company and used by the Queen frontman until his death in November 1991, sold at auction on Saturday January 12 for £74,000.


  37. song_and_dance_man
    37 | January 16, 2013 6:43 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    There is also no ‘W’ in Islam (important to know for Scrabble players).

    Then how do they spell Wahabi?


  38. AZfederalist
    38 | January 16, 2013 6:46 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:

    There is also no ‘W’ in Islam (important to know for Scrabble players).

    Then how do they spell Wahabi?

    Or WMD, or sewicide bomber? ;-)


  39. 39 | January 16, 2013 6:47 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    So we have another hostage situation. Good work, zero.

    I have a thread on that.


  40. Moe Katz
    40 | January 16, 2013 6:47 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Moe Katz wrote:
    There is also no ‘W’ in Islam (important to know for Scrabble players).
    Then how do they spell Wahabi?

    الوهابية


  41. Moe Katz
    41 | January 16, 2013 6:49 pm

    @ AZfederalist:
    :)


  42. Moe Katz
    42 | January 16, 2013 6:50 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    For that matter, there is no ‘p’ in Arabic, so how do they go to the bathroom?


  43. Bumr50
    43 | January 16, 2013 6:56 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Then how do they spell Wahabi?

    I put that on my hushi.


  44. song_and_dance_man
    44 | January 16, 2013 7:04 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    الوهابية

    I don’t know…that first letter looks awfully close to a W

    /


  45. song_and_dance_man
    45 | January 16, 2013 7:04 pm

    Oh wait. They spell right to left.


  46. Speranza
    46 | January 16, 2013 7:08 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    I take it you’ve never had to actually work with the French military!

    What does that have to do with it?


  47. Purre
    47 | January 16, 2013 7:10 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Contrary to myths — the French Army has always been an excellent army. The problems were bad leadership both military (oftentimes reactionary and overly political) and political.

    I recommend reading The Last Valley by Martin Windrow. It describes the path to Dien Bien Phu, the battles and the fallout. To summarize it all they fought well, and while they lost the battle, they inflicted so large casualties, that had the politicians and the people folded, French could have easily overcome the communists. Their casualties were only 3,3% of the forces in Indochina, while their enemy lost sizeable portion of its best troops. I also found it rather ironic how LBJ et al sank the idea of US air support to French and funding of the war (as in French/foreign legion troops funded by USA), only to sink themselves neck deep in the conflict decade later.


  48. coldwarrior
    48 | January 16, 2013 7:10 pm

    the action has started

    French troops pressed northward in Mali territory occupied by radical Islamists today, launching a land assault which will put soldiers in direct combat “in 1 to 72 hours,” military officials said.

    A trickle of refugees left on foot from Diabaly, a town seized two days ago by the jihadists who have held onto it despite a punishing bombing campaign by French fighter jets. The refugees arrived in Niono town, 70 kilometres, according to residents.

    French ground operations began overnight, France’s military chief of staff Adm. Edouard Guillaud, said on Europe 1 television Wednesday (local time). He stressed that French infantry units “will be fighting directly in coming hours, but I am unable to say whether it is in one hour or in 72 hours. … Of course, we will be fighting directly.”


  49. coldwarrior
    49 | January 16, 2013 7:12 pm

    Purre wrote:

    I also found it rather ironic how LBJ et al sank the idea of US air support to French and funding of the war (as in French/foreign legion troops funded by USA), only to sink themselves neck deep in the conflict decade later.

    ironic is a fine word for that.


  50. citizen_q
    50 | January 16, 2013 7:19 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    On the one hand killing muzz is a good thing

    On the other I am wondering when we can start giving the French the same sort of rhetorical treatment they have given Israel over their self-defense against similar genocidal islamofacists?


  51. Tanker
    51 | January 16, 2013 7:20 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    I take it you’ve never had to actually work with the French military!
    What does that have to do with it?

    You stated they had a great Army, my experience actually having working with their Armor forces has given me a different opinion. JMO


  52. citizen_q
    52 | January 16, 2013 7:21 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    muzz

    PIMF meant to say jihadist.


  53. lobo91
    53 | January 16, 2013 7:21 pm

    How does someone so stupid manage to remember to breathe?

    Pelosi: More Gun Control Needed Because “We Took An Oath To Protect And Defend. That Is Our First Responsibility”…

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said action must be taken in the aftermath of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School because members of Congress took an oath to “protect and defend,” although the actual oath says to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States ….”

    Pelosi held a House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee hearing on “Gun Violence Prevention: A Call to Action,” where she endorsed the gun control proposals President Barack Obama unveiled today.

    “Earlier this month, shortly after Newtown, all members of Congress took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the American people,” Pelosi said. “To protect and defend. That is our first responsibility.”


  54. Tanker
    54 | January 16, 2013 7:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    How does someone so stupid manage to remember to breathe?
    Pelosi: More Gun Control Needed Because “We Took An Oath To Protect And Defend. That Is Our First Responsibility”…
    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said action must be taken in the aftermath of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School because members of Congress took an oath to “protect and defend,” although the actual oath says to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States ….”
    Pelosi held a House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee hearing on “Gun Violence Prevention: A Call to Action,” where she endorsed the gun control proposals President Barack Obama unveiled today.
    “Earlier this month, shortly after Newtown, all members of Congress took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the American people,” Pelosi said. “To protect and defend. That is our first responsibility.”

    Deputy Pelosi reports for duty!


  55. 55 | January 16, 2013 7:25 pm

    1389! You used the word Islamofascists! Shocka!
    The effeminates over at Hidden Frontier banned me for that!


  56. citizen_q
    56 | January 16, 2013 7:25 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I think she believes we are all so stupid she needs to talk down to us in the manner.

    Remember she keeps getting re-elected and so did comrade zero.

    Not signs of an informed or intelligent electorate.


  57. heysoos
    57 | January 16, 2013 7:25 pm

    liberals…
    we are going to protect the constitution by ignoring it…got it


  58. heysoos
    58 | January 16, 2013 7:26 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    liberals…
    we are going to protect the constitution by ignoring it…got it

    and to prove my respect for the law, I’m going to break it


  59. heysoos
    59 | January 16, 2013 7:28 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    liberals…
    we are going to protect the constitution by ignoring it…got it

    and to prove my respect for the law, I’m going to break it

    and after I break the law, I will be re-elected with your money and sign lots of autographs for $10 a pop…do I serve or what?


  60. yenta-fada
    60 | January 16, 2013 7:28 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    competitive devaluation.
    coming to a currency near you

    hmmmmm. What item outside the currency system is a currency?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/9804444/Bundesbank-to-pull-gold-from-New-York-and-Paris-in-watershed-moment.html


  61. yenta-fada
    61 | January 16, 2013 7:29 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I think she believes we are all so stupid she needs to talk down to us in the manner.
    Remember she keeps getting re-elected and so did comrade zero.
    Not signs of an informed or intelligent electorate.

    They breathe their own air. It smells like Chanel. We can’t afford their air.


  62. yenta-fada
    62 | January 16, 2013 7:30 pm

    Macker wrote:

    1389! You used the word Islamofascists! Shocka!
    The effeminates over at Hidden Frontier banned me for that!

    Fatwa over on aisle 7!


  63. lobo91
    63 | January 16, 2013 7:34 pm

    “Moderate” Muslim Malaysia Tells Parents: If Your Son Wears V-Neck Shirts He Could Be Gay…

    They were once considered the height of fashion, worn by the likes of the Prince of Wales and tennis champion Fred Perry as he conquered Wimbledon in the 1930s.

    More than 80 years after first being sold the V-neck sweater remains as popular with both men and women.

    But in Malaysia wearing that type of sweater is considered a clear sign that the person could be gay.

    Government officials in the Far East country have issued a series a pointers to parents that they say are telltale signs of homosexuality.

    Among them is the wearing of a V-neck sweater as well as a preference for sleeveless T-shirts.

    Teenagers who wear tight, light-coloured clothes and possess a ‘chiseled’ physique are also inclined to be gay.

    The so called tell tale signs were issued Teachers Foundation of Malaysia and backed by the Government.

    The country’s deputy education minister Mohd Puad Zarkashinot said few people in the Muslim country understood or knew the early ‘symptoms’ of homosexuality, bisexuality and transgender inclinations to prevent its spread.

    Ten seminars have so far been held in Malaysia where the how-to-spot gay tendencies were delivered to parents.


  64. The Osprey
    64 | January 16, 2013 7:36 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    Post World War II, French weaponry has been excellent as well — particularly the Mystere and Mirage jets. The IDF/AF will attest to that.

    Yeah, and like the skid row hooker, they’ll sell their hardware to anybody who has the money to pay for it.

    You mean like those naughty RAAAAAAAAAAACIST South Africans who fought Castro’s MiGs in Angola with their Mirage F1′s? ;)


  65. 65 | January 16, 2013 7:38 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Funny, I saw nothing wrong with RIX’s comment! :)


  66. The Osprey
    66 | January 16, 2013 7:39 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    competitive devaluation.
    coming to a currency near you

    hmmmmm. What item outside the currency system is a currency?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/9804444/Bundesbank-to-pull-gold-from-New-York-and-Paris-in-watershed-moment.html

    Do you see Germany ditching the Euro for a gold backed Deutschmark?


  67. heysoos
    67 | January 16, 2013 7:39 pm

    @ lobo91:
    nothing like a paranoid Muzlim freakzoid…the give away is the keffiyeh, that dreaded, bloodthirsty hatwear worn by child killers and insane camel fuckers that crave death and raisins


  68. yenta-fada
    68 | January 16, 2013 7:40 pm

    @ lobo91:

    There is no gaydar like Islamic gaydar. Bachi bachi boys. Arafat. Mo and pedophilia.


  69. waldensianspirit
    69 | January 16, 2013 7:45 pm

    @ Tanker:
    So they at some point the french will need extricated from war torn Mali?


  70. 70 | January 16, 2013 7:46 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    competitive devaluation.
    coming to a currency near you
    hmmmmm. What item outside the currency system is a currency?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/9804444/Bundesbank-to-pull-gold-from-New-York-and-Paris-in-watershed-moment.html

    Do you see Germany ditching the Euro for a gold backed Deutschmark?

    Sounds like a plan.


  71. yenta-fada
    71 | January 16, 2013 7:47 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    competitive devaluation.
    coming to a currency near you
    hmmmmm. What item outside the currency system is a currency?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/investing/gold/9804444/Bundesbank-to-pull-gold-from-New-York-and-Paris-in-watershed-moment.html
    Do you see Germany ditching the Euro for a gold backed Deutschmark?

    There are a long list of opinions on the endgame for currencies. I was listening to Catherine Austin Fitts the other day. She was Asst Secy of Housing under Bush 1, and a mega money manager. She says that
    what the Controllers want really is a form of digital currencies so that every global transaction can be tracked. (and/or taxed) That means not only banking, but things like Paypal. It’s really quite a long topic with some excellent thinking put into it by lifetime money managers both inside and outside the box. Perhaps ALL currencies will have partial gold backing. WHICH, Dorian, does NOT mean any currency is “redeemable” in gold or silver.
    The Bank of International Settlements uses gold as an international vehicle everyday, though most, if not all of that is ‘paper gold’.


  72. 72 | January 16, 2013 7:49 pm

    Macker wrote:

    1389! You used the word Islamofascists! Shocka!
    The effeminates over at Hidden Frontier banned me for that!

    While I quoted the term from SDAMatt2a, who wrote the video description, let me make it clear that I heartily endorse it.

    The only quibble is that Islam is Islam, and the word “Islamofascist” should not be taken to imply that there is any kind of Islam that is not fascist.


  73. heysoos
    73 | January 16, 2013 7:53 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    1389! You used the word Islamofascists! Shocka!
    The effeminates over at Hidden Frontier banned me for that!

    While I quoted the term from SDAMatt2a, who wrote the video description, let me make it clear that I heartily endorse it.
    The only quibble is that Islam is Islam, and the word “Islamofascist” should not be taken to imply that there is any kind of Islam that is not fascist.

    there was a rumor several yeas ago, that a moderate Muslim was seen entering the Gila Mountains up a forlorn trail leading nowhere…story was uncomfirmed


  74. Tanker
    74 | January 16, 2013 7:55 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    So they at some point the french will need extricated from war torn Mali?

    Can’t say one way or the other. Never said they don’t have the skills! But the skill isn’t always enough, you also need the will and fortitude to see it through. Something the Modern French military isn’t known for, be it military leadership or political.

    Much the way our forces are having to fight!


  75. waldensianspirit
    75 | January 16, 2013 7:57 pm

    @ heysoos:
    :mrgreen:


  76. yenta-fada
    76 | January 16, 2013 7:59 pm

    @ heysoos:

    There is a now-retired Ontario journalist named Salim Mansur. He is an incredible man. There are some brave Iranian women in Canada as well. The huge problem is that the Muslim leadership everywhere is radical. As long as everyone is making money off the Supremacist deal, it is big business and they train their people everywhere to take over the political systems in the West. e.g. The mayor of Calgary is a so-called moderate Muslim who went to the training camp (aka The Harvard Kennedy School of Government) in Boston for advanced studies.


  77. heysoos
    77 | January 16, 2013 7:59 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    if you see a moderate Muslim try to get a photo…set up one of those nocturnal motion cameras or whatever…if they are out there, by god, we’ll find one


  78. buzzsawmonkey
    78 | January 16, 2013 8:00 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Hey, Y-F—left a link for you on the debt ceiling thread.


  79. heysoos
    79 | January 16, 2013 8:01 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    There is a now-retired Ontario journalist named Salim Mansur. He is an incredible man. There are some brave Iranian women in Canada as well. The huge problem is that the Muslim leadership everywhere is radical. As long as everyone is making money off the Supremacist deal, it is big business and they train their people everywhere to take over the political systems in the West. e.g. The mayor of Calgary is a so-called moderate Muslim who went to the training camp (aka The Harvard Kennedy School of Government) in Boston for advanced studies.

    I don’t care about reality anymore…it’s boring


  80. yenta-fada
    80 | January 16, 2013 8:03 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Hey, Y-F—left a link for you on the debt ceiling thread.

    How many ways can I think of to say you are amazing? :-)


  81. Guggi
    81 | January 16, 2013 8:03 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I wonder what French policy toward waterboarding is

    You better don’t ask. France was the main exporter of torture teams training South-Americans as well as North-Africans.


  82. coldwarrior
    82 | January 16, 2013 8:06 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I wonder what French policy toward waterboarding is
    You better don’t ask. France was the main exporter of torture teams training South-Americans as well as North-Africans.

    they did a real number in algeria, thats for sure.


  83. heysoos
    83 | January 16, 2013 8:07 pm

    my new favorite vidlife game is Grand Con-o Theft…mayem and death


  84. heysoos
    84 | January 16, 2013 8:10 pm

    the gist of Grand Con-O Theft is to deceit, lie and fuck over as many Americans that trusted you as possible…arrange the demise of a ME ambassador is like 2000 points


  85. lobo91
    85 | January 16, 2013 8:14 pm

    I’m pretty sure that reality has been suspended by executive order for at least the next four years.


  86. coldwarrior
    86 | January 16, 2013 8:16 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    the gist of Grand Con-O Theft is to deceit, lie and fuck over as many Americans that trusted you as possible…arrange the demise of a ME ambassador is like 2000 points

    is that a rated ‘M’ game?


  87. heysoos
    87 | January 16, 2013 8:22 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    the gist of Grand Con-O Theft is to deceit, lie and fuck over as many Americans that trusted you as possible…arrange the demise of a ME ambassador is like 2000 points

    is that a rated ‘M’ game?

    yes, rated M for ME death porn


  88. Guggi
    88 | January 16, 2013 8:28 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    they did a real number in algeria, thats for sure.

    they used their experience from Algeria in Chile, Brasilia and Argentinia too (to name only a few) to train torture teams.

    They also trained and supervised torture teams in Algeria during the 1990′s against GIA (Groupe Islamique Armé)


  89. 89 | January 16, 2013 8:31 pm

    New Thread


  90. heysoos
    90 | January 16, 2013 8:32 pm


  91. 91 | January 16, 2013 8:38 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Yup, very true.


  92. 92 | January 16, 2013 9:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    @ heysoos:

    if you see a moderate Muslim try to get a photo…set up one of those nocturnal motion cameras or whatever…if they are out there, by god, we’ll find one

    The last one got eaten by Sasquatch.


  93. Speranza
    93 | January 16, 2013 9:30 pm

    Purre wrote:

    I recommend reading The Last Valley by Martin Windrow. It describes the path to Dien Bien Phu, the battles and the fallout. To summarize it all they fought well, and while they lost the battle, they inflicted so large casualties, that had the politicians and the people folded, French could have easily overcome the communists. Their casualties were only 3,3% of the forces in Indochina, while their enemy lost sizeable portion of its best troops. I also found it rather ironic how LBJ et al sank the idea of US air support to French and funding of the war (as in French/foreign legion troops funded by USA), only to sink themselves neck deep in the conflict decade later.

    I read that book (actually most of it as it was over 600 pages).


  94. Speranza
    94 | January 16, 2013 9:31 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    You stated they had a great Army, my experience actually having working with their Armor forces has given me a different opinion. JMO

    I did not say they had a “great” army. “Great” is subjective. They do have a top notch military.


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