Colin Powell can get away with saying the most outrageous things. Fortunately we have people such as Brit Hume and Bret Stephens who are not afraid to point out his blatant hypocrisies. We are all used to liberal double standards when it comes to crying racism, yet once in a while it is nice to stand up to them and ask for proof.
by Bret Stephens
Colin Powell thinks Chuck Hagel’s use of the term “Jewish lobby” was an innocent mistake, for which he should atone by writing “Israel lobby” 100 times on a blackboard.
“That term slips out from time to time,” the former secretary of state told David Gregory on Sunday’s “Meet the Press.” Mr. Powell also thinks that when Mr. Hagel’s critics “go over the edge and say because Chuck said ‘Jewish lobby,’ he is anti-Semitic, that’s disgraceful. We shouldn’t have that kind of language in our dialogue.”
OK, I get it. An errant slip of the tongue isn’t proof of prejudice. We have all said things the offensiveness of which we perhaps didn’t fully appreciate when we opened our mouth.
Like the time when, according to Bob Woodward, Mr. Powell accused Douglas Feith, one of the highest-ranking Jewish officials in the Bush administration and the son of a Holocaust survivor, of running a “Gestapo office” out of the Pentagon. Mr. Powell later apologized personally to Mr. Feith for what he acknowledged was a “despicable characterization.”
Or the time when, according to George Packer in his book “The Assassins’ Gate,” Mr. Powell leveled another ugly charge at Mr. Feith, this time in his final Oval Office meeting with George W. Bush. “The Defense Department had too much power in shaping foreign policy, [Powell] argued, and when Bush asked for an example, Powell offered not Rumsfeld, the secretary who had mastered him bureaucratically, not Wolfowitz, the point man on Iraq, but the department’s number three official, Douglas Feith, whom Powell called a card-carrying member of the Likud Party.”
Anyway, on this business of hypersensitivity to prejudicial remarks, real or perceived, here is Mr. Powell in the same interview talking about what ails the Republican Party:
“There’s also a dark vein of intolerance in some parts of the party. What do I mean by that? I mean by that is they still sort of look down on minorities. How can I evidence that? When I see a former governor [Alaska's Sarah Palin] say that the president is shuckin’ and jivin,’ that’s a racial-era slave term. When I see another former governor [New Hampshire's John Sununu] say after the president’s first debate when he didn’t do well, he said he was lazy. Now it may not mean anything to most Americans but to those of us who are African-Americans, the second word is shiftless and then there’s a third word that goes along with it.”
William B. Plowman/NBCThe former secretary of state defends Chuck Hagel, Jan. 13.
So let’s get this straight. Mr. Powell holds it “disgraceful” to allege anti-Semitism of politicians who invidiously use the phrase “the Jewish lobby.” But he has no qualms about accusing Mr. Sununu—along whose side he worked during the George H.W. Bush administration—of all-but whispering the infamous N-word when he called Mr. Obama’s first debate performance “lazy.”
[.......]
Consider the following hypothetical sentence: “The African-American lobby intimidates a lot of people up here.” Would this pass Mr. Powell’s smell test?
Or this: “I’m a United States senator, not a Kenyan senator.” [.......]
Now maybe someone can explain how that’s materially different from Mr. Hagel’s suggestion that “The Jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here” and “I’m a United States senator, not an Israeli senator.”
One of the arguments I’ve come across recently is that there’s nothing unwarranted about using the word “intimidate” and that it’s something all lobbies do. Remarkably, however, a Google search yields zero results for the phrases “the farm lobby intimidates,” “the African-American lobby intimidates,” or “the Hispanic lobby intimidates.” Only the Jewish lobby does that, apparently.
There is also the argument that supporters of Israel really do intimidate politicians on Capitol Hill. The word itself means “to make timid or fearful,” to “frighten,” and “to compel or deter as if by threats.” It would be interesting to see valid evidence that any group commonly associated with the Israel lobby ever employed such Mafia-like tactics. What I’ve seen instead are crackpot allegations, such as the letter I recently received charging that the Jewish lobby was responsible for William Fulbright’s 1974 senatorial defeat in Arkansas. [......]
In the meantime, maybe Mr. Powell could show that he’s as sensitive to the whiff of anti-Semitism as he is to the whiff of racism. If George Packer’s description of Mr. Powell’s last meeting with President Bush is inaccurate, he should publicly disavow it. If it’s accurate, he should publicly apologize for it. [.......] If he has called the loyalties of other patriotic American public servants into question, that would be, to use his word, disgraceful.
Read the rest – Colin Powell’s double standard.
Tags: Bret Stephens, Chuck Hagel, Colin Powell, Likud
From the man who said Sarah Palin was racist because she used the words “shuck and jive” yet forgets that Mario Cuomo used it as well.
Perhaps he’d like to comment on Jesse Jerkson’s use of “Hymietown” -- or is that just another “term [that] slips out from time to time”?
You still haven’t answered for Armitage, you piece of crap.
Just up on PJM, the new Buzz Ballad: “The Newest, Predicted, Federal, Needless Gun-Grab—Like New York”.
Comments, as always, welcomed.
Douglas Feith is a Nation Building jerk, But Colin Powell is a bigger one. Powell is an opportunist pure and simple.
i’m confused. its bad to say the jewish lobby is powerful in DC? isn’t that the point of having a lobby? use power/ coercion to twist arms to get your policies into actions?
it would be an insult to say that the lobby is not powerful, then that would be accusing th4 lobbyists of not doing their jobs effectively and wasting tons of cash and time.hell, if someone said that the lobby i ran was intimidating, i would take that as a compliment!
@ coldwarrior:
hmmmm, as bad as israel is being treated by DC it looks like the jewish lobby is actually failing.
@ coldwarrior:
True, but when you get people talking about “the powerful Jewish lobby,” you start getting into accusations that Jews are “not loyal to this country” (the dual-loyalty calumny goes back to the Middle Ages, if not before), and that “the Jews run the country.”
coldwarrior wrote:
If anything it’s the Islamic lobby which calls the shots.
Colon Bowel is a racist punk and a damned Marxist useless imbecile.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Powell would not be so forgiving of anyone mentioning the African-American lobby.
Speranza wrote:
He states outright that calling a lazy President lazy is a “racial slur.”
Carolina Girl wrote:
Because nobody calls him out on that.
@ coldwarrior:
I believe the problem is the implied anti-Semitic accusations that Jews have divided loyalty, control the media, are the hidden hand in world events…
Yes, it would be nice to have a powerful lobby to advocate for issues the concern you, but I take the implication of a powerful Jewish lobby in this context having the meanings I cited.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
If someone said the Colombian lobby was powerful, I would give them a high 5. But I see your point as well. The truth: It’s the Islamic lobby who has power!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
That is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard. They used to say that Reagan was “lazy” all the time.
doriangrey wrote:
I hate him.
Long Island school goes into panic lockdown over Nerf gun.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
What was its magazone capacity? If it was over 7, then we have a problem.
I assume Powell defends Hagel because he’s an anti-Semite, as so many blacks are.
Rodan wrote:
I don’t,I refuse to allow him to live rent free in my head. I fell nothing towards him at all. Just as if he didn’t even exist.
@ randian:
Blunt, yet accurate.
randian wrote:
I don’t believe he’s an antisemite, he speaks fondly of Jewish associations during his youth in the Bronx, uses a lot of Yiddishisms. He’s just a bit dovish on the Middle East, like most liberals. Let’s keep these things in perspective.
Moe Katz wrote:
Does your version of “in perspective” include massive amounts of wishful thinking?
I understand O is on right now, gutting the 2nd like a fish.
@ doriangrey:
“In perspective” means not labeling as antisemitic everyone who takes a more dovish line than the current Israeli coalition. Otherwise, at least a third of Israel’s Jews are, by definition, antisemites.
By the way, CW, “Jews” and its variants are spelled with initial capital, unless one is posting on Stormfront. Sorry, but I used to edit for food, and I can’t let something like that go by.
Moe Katz wrote:
How do you move the goal post so far without ripping up the turf?
Mike C. wrote:
let him, it’s just tightening the noose further…I think he’s in for a lot of blowback
@ waldensianspirit:
????
Mike C. wrote:
Yes, he is.
Moe Katz wrote:
????????
Moe Katz wrote:
From what I have seen from some of those Jews on the left, it fits. Like on a news program a couple years ago covering the huge protest being led by Palestine House here in Toronto they interviewed one of the marchers and he started off by saying “I am Jewish, and I don’t support Israel’s attacks”. The same protest had flags from Hezzbollah flying, people carrying pictures of the Ayatollah Khomeni, and lots of other overt cases of anti-semitism.
Sometimes if the shoe fits.
Moe Katz wrote:
Everyone who takes a more dovish line than the current Israeli coalition is working for the destruction of Israel, whether knowingly or not. “The current Israeli coalition” is being slagged as “hard-line” merely for refusing to roll over and die like nice little ghetto Jewboys.
MAKE MURDERING CHILDREN ILLEGAL
NOW
I demand it
Moe Katz wrote:
Yes? Your point?
Moe Katz wrote:
you are barking up the wrong tree.
this isnt stormfront nor am i anti-jewish. those who know me know that my pro-israel pro-jewish bona fides are rock solid not only in words but in action.
The EOs are just a pile of horseshit. Nothing real about them.
interesting move.
Mike C. wrote:
Biden would like to see them activated.
/He may be President yet!
O/T Comrade zero has made excersizing your rights under the 2nd Amendment a medical issue as one of this EOs
Obama Asks Doctors to Help Deal With Guns
.
Mike C. wrote:
i couldn’t bring myself to watch it. anything serious or is this all fluff
waldensianspirit wrote:
Frankly, were Obama to be impeached—he won’t be, but I can dream—Biden should be impeached with him for aiding and abetting Obama’s various powergrabs.
Of course, “President Boehner” is not something to really dream about…
@ Mike C.:
Good! I don’t think anything is going to get passed the Legislature. I don’t think. It’ll be a near thing in the Senate, but I don’t think Reid can get 60 votes to move anything forward.
@ citizen_q:
If my doctor asks me any questions like this, I’ll find another doctor.
@ citizen_q:
As an aside, I bet these EOs will give any gun owner pause in considering any kind of mental health services or counselling.
Here’s the list of EOs. So far it looks like fluff, but I haven’t finished reading through it.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Good grief! I like the link’s suggestion regarding universal firearms safety training. If kids can be taught to put condoms on cucumbers, they can be taught to identify firearms and basic safety training. After all, if it saves just one child’s life, it is worth it, right?
Iron Fist wrote:
It’s part of using “health issues” to control the citizenry and to trump constitutional freedoms.
From banning pre-1985 children’s books for “health reasons” to confiscating guns for “health reasons.”
@ coldwarrior:
Then spell Jewish with a cap. What are you trying to prove?
@ Iron Fist:
I will have to have another talk about this with my wife. I will have to figure out how to instruct her, to avoid the question -- ignore it, or simply lie knowing this is not a medical but a political question.
Iron Fist wrote:
all blather that could have figured out by a high school student….stuff like hire armed guards…duh
AZfederalist wrote:
Fortunately, that one’s easy to implement. The NRA already has the best firearms safety program for children there is in the Eddie Eagle campaign.
Somehow, though, I doubt that’s what they have in mind.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Exactly my point. A skewed perspective, disorientation as to where the center of the spectrum lies.
Moe Katz wrote:
not trying to prove anything. and trust me, if i dont like a group i come out and say it straight, not play games like selective formatting.
i pretty much dont cap anything. its a habit from using secure telex machines back in the day, everything was capped.
so excuse me if my formatting does not meet your standards.
@ coldwarrior:
“Jew” is capped unless the writer is either an antisemite, illiterate, or both. Which are you?
@ heysoos:
That’s the only one I worry about. Could Holder just decide an individual is “dangerous” and forbid them weapons? Say, someon ewho was a Conservative? There’s a lot of room for slippery interpretation there.
Moe Katz wrote:
wtf?…that’s not cool amigo
Iron Fist wrote:
I suspect that the intention on that one is to include everyone who’s on a “no fly” or “terrorist watch” list into the NICS database as prohibited purchasers.
That’s one that has to be opposed, because there’s no way for a person to appeal a rejection, since the reason they’re on the list is secret.
Iron Fist wrote:
issuing memorandae and starting a national dialogue?
yeah…ok. see prof lott for our side of the dialogue.
Moe Katz wrote:
You seem to be laboring under the delusion that 1/3 of Israel’s Jews cannot, by some definitional process known only to you, be antisemites. Well, why not? Many Israelis are wholly secular. They are Jews by ethnicity (an ethnicity determined by religious law), but they do not accept the strictures of the religion even though their own ethnicity depends on it. There is certainly Biblical precedent for this in the Prophets--but we needn’t go so far back. All we need do is look at the avid assimilation of American Jews (including Reform Jews who are no longer, in the main, even halachically Jewish). Or we can look at former Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Olmert, who stated that he wants people in Israel to be Israelis, not Jews, and that “Israelis are tired of being heroic.”
There are many Jews in Israel who are antisemites. There are also many Jews in Israel who are infected with the mental disease of Leftism, who believe that if they cut their own throats their enemies will embrace them after they’ve bled enough.
Iron Fist wrote:
I think the people are getting fed up…apparently, mag caps and assault weapons get kicked back to congress…I’ll bet BO got a call from S Martinez…woman, Latina, governor and CC advocate…it all adds up
coldwarrior wrote:
Essentially all fluff. O leading from behind again, while he urges congress to stick their collective dicks in the sausage grinder.
Moe Katz wrote:
i guess illiterate. odd, i swore i could read just a few minutes ago.
@ Moe Katz:
Place two bricks on either side of your stupid hardon and slammit
/doctor’s cure
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Only as long as the orthodox call the shots as to “who is a Jew.”
@ coldwarrior:
My personal favorite:
Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
Iron Fist wrote:
yeah…who is dangerous?
@ lobo91:
Yep, that’s a good start I do think that more detailed identification and basic principles should be taught as well to higher grade levels.
@ Iron Fist:
If the feds actually start prosecuting criminals for violating gun laws, that would be a good start.
There’s already a 5 year federal prison term on the books for a felon who simply touches a gun. It’s almost never used, though.
coldwarrior wrote:
Wingnuts has the word nuts in it for a reason
@ Carolina Girl:
I thought that’s what I was already doing for a living…
Moe Katz wrote:
Yes? Go on.
@ Carolina Girl:
What the hell is wrong with the block quote????
@ Mike C.:
@ Carolina Girl:
and a dialogue requires two sides. i am so sure that 0 will include prof lott, the nra, and gun owners in this exercise.
AZfederalist wrote:
Of course. The Eddie Eagle program is designed for small children.
I’m outta here for today, this group and I have had our fill of one another for now.
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m sure they’ll include the full range of viewpoints, from X to Z…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Laws can be changed. Other definitions of “who is a Jew” can be entertained.
@ coldwarrior:
I’ve been fielding some emails from folks in my office since these came down. I’m not fooled. He’s waiting to see what happens in 2014. If he keeps the Democrat Senate, he’s home free. His plan is to demonize the NRA and gun owners and whine that if only he had a Democratic HOUSE he could make America safer from those eeeeebil gun peoples and jump start the economy (which should be esconced in the toilet bowl by then).
waldensianspirit wrote:
undefined adjectives like ‘dangerous’ are problematic when making policy. the lack of the definition then usually leaves it up to a bureaucrat to define. and that usually does not go very well.
@ Mike C.:
I learned today that there are twenty Senate Democrats up for re-election. I am sure some of them are safe seats, but I know some of them are not. The last thing that those people are going to want to do is make a tough vote on a divisive issue. I bet Reid can’t get the 60 votes to move forward when Feinstein’s bill is presented.
Moe Katz wrote:
Bricks are cheap
Moe Katz wrote:
see ya! hockey starts next week!
hooooray, eh?
@ coldwarrior:
NRA has already fired the warning shot:
@ coldwarrior:
I’m almost certain that that particular one is code for incorporating the “watch lists” used by TSA and the NCTC into the NICS database.
That’s something the Dems have been pushing for awhile now.
Carolina Girl wrote:
could be a plan.
or even he is smart enough to realize that gun laws will get his party decapitated again. the dems learned this well. don’t mess with the guns lest you get eviscerated in the election.
@ Carolina Girl:
Obama grabbed a tiger by the tail!
Moe Katz wrote:
In case you haven’t noticed CW is “Capitalization challenged”.
Iron Fist wrote:
why give a republican party that is in disarray any help.
lobo91 wrote:
I have a problem with that, though. If a guy’s paid his debt to society and isn’t a threat to the community, I don’t care what he did ten or fifteen years ago. OTOH, if you know he is a threat to the community, why are you letting him out of jail in the first place? Background checks may not be entirely useless, but I doubt that they make any real difference in crime. Dangerous people will find a way to be dangerous. Lock up the people who are a real threat to the community the first time they comitt an armed robbery or assault, and you won’ thave to worry about them getting a gun.
@ lobo91:
I’m thinking full range from A to D: A: Abuse gun owners and supporters
B: Ban
C: Confiscate
D: Destroy
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
i believe that all letters are equal!
capitalized letters, capitalists…oh yes…caps are a tool of the man to keep other letters down!
Obama drew a pair of 4′s asked for three cards got a 5, 10, and 3 from the dealer, so he raised by “I’ll do EO’s on gun laws”.
We the People joined the NRA at around a 350,000 month average.
Gun’s and ammo flew off shelves like the Russians had landed and were headed inland.
Now BO has had his silly bluff called, We the People have a stright flush ready in hand if he thinks we are bluffing.
Piss poor bluff O’hole, show your cards and shut the f’up.
@ coldwarrior:
There are times, though, when their liberal theology overrides their grip on reality. In turn, if I’m the GOP, I start campaigning NOW about how NONE of these measures will make a single person safer in that it does nothing about guns obtained illegally for use in crimes.
What it does do is burden and punish those who have done nothing wrong.
Moe Katz wrote:
Please elucidate.
Israel has criteria for accepting people under the Law of Return who are not Jews under halacha. But if someone is not a Jew under halacha, that person is not a Jew.
If you disagree—and you clearly do—kindly state, straight out, what criteria you support/believe in/would set for “being a Jew,” and on what basis you would propose to slough and replace the criteria that have defined Jews since Biblical times.
Straight out statemets: no hinting, sentence fragments, or mushmouthing.
@ Iron Fist:
there ya go talkin sense again.
Carolina Girl wrote:
this fight will never be over. ever. it waxes and wains form one side to the other.
@ coldwarrior:
Yeah, Obama isn’t a masterful poitician. He’s gotten as far as he has based mostly on the break he gets from his race. Everywhere he goes, people make exceptions for him. He’s never actually had to produce anything in his life. Did you know he’s going to miss filing his budget again this year? No real surprise now. No budget in what, going on four years? And Obama’s worried about guns? Instapundit has this egged as a distraction from Obama’s very real deficit problem. That may be so, but we still have to forcefully counter every move in this direction. Previous compromises have been proven to be a mistake. I am glad theat the NRA is taking no prisoners on this one.
AZfederalist wrote:
alinsky tactics then act. this has just started. this fight will never be over
So, these 20 million illegals.
I will guarantee every last one of their fake ID’s will pass a gun buy.
They work with fake ID’s, they pay Federal Taxes with fake ID’s, hell they have Union Work Records on fake ID’s.
The Fed’s can’t find their collevtive ass’s with every last over paid hand they got.
Iron Fist wrote:
i said that from day one. this is a shiny object, although we have to assume it isnt and that he is serious
@ Iron Fist:
The issue there isn’t someone who spent a year in prison for tax evasion 15 years ago, though. The majority of crimes are committed by a relatively small number of repeat offenders. There are people who literally spend their entire adult lives either in prison or on parole, going back and forth.
Despite the confusion of the NY Times, there actually is a good reason that crime has gone down over the past 20 years. It’s because we locked up a lot of the career criminals.
Prosecutions are way down under Obama, though, probably because the majority of the offenders are other than white males.
Iron Fist wrote:
no doubt about that. he is the culmination of the racial hire. he is perfect in that respect. i used to see it in business all the time. fortunately now i dont see it in the medical field because this field is a serious meritocracy.
Too,
On what the Fed’s can not find.
“Richard Windsors” e-mails.
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
@ Iron Fist:
@ coldwarrior:
Colin Powell’s now on your trail because you both said “shuck and jive” in more highfalutin words…
Carolina Girl wrote:
bomb them with facts and stats…I keep waiting but see much bombing, have to wake people up that are ambivalent
Moe Katz wrote:
This is the intertubes, spelling and capitalization are optional, being an anally retentive asshole is as well, but neither are actually required.
@ doriangrey:
It is interesting to see “Moe Katz” get all pissy about capitalizing “Jew,” while apparently supporting the idea of totally rewriting what a Jew is and how a Jew is defined.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
colon blow -- race detective!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
i’d like to say far worse, but this is civil discourse.
heysoos wrote:
long is the struggle, hard the fight.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I’m not Jewish (See Moe I capitalized it) so I don’t even pretend to understand. But I have been online since before the Internet even existed (A lot longer I might add) and complaining that someone doesn’t capitalize or spell or use correct punctuation on the internet is about as pedantic as on can get. To the often used phrases of Spelling Nazi or Grammar Nazi I guess we now need to add the term, Capitalization Nazi.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
When everyone is a racist, no one is a racist. I haven’t heard Colin Powell condem Jamie Foxx’s little racially incitful flick. I guess it’s OK to be joyous over killing white people.
coldwarrior wrote:
I’d like to see more, consistent pressure to exploit this powder puff EO crap…it’s a can’t lose opportunity, but I’m not holding my breath
The idea of letting the ATF include people who are on the “terrorist watch list” or “no fly list” as prohibited purchasers is truly frightening.
For one thing, it’s going to thoroughly screw up the background check system, because those lists don’t include identifying information. They’re just lists of names. If there’s a guy name Bob Smith on one of them, any other Bob Smith in the US is going to be rejected when he tries to buy a gun.
The truly evil part of it, though, is the fact that they can literally put anyone they want on those lists, and you can’t effectively appeal it, because they won’t tell you why you’re on the list.
Someone at ATF could get ahold of the NRA’s membership list and just put every member on the terrorist watch list if they wanted to.
@ citizen_q:
I answered my cardiologist when he was checking for swollen ankles last year and felt my holster.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Of course he won’t be impeached even though he dearly deserves it. That pretty much what my latest very sardonic blog post is about by the way.
President Obama to be arrested and Impeached.
Rand Paul on Gun Control Executive Order: Obama is Not ‘King’
@ unclassifiable:
lobo91 wrote:
and at that point congress will have no choice but to stop funding the program or stop funding atf.
unclassifiable wrote:
is that edema or are ya just happy to see me?
coldwarrior wrote:
Too bad Obama has unilaterally assumed the authority to borrow and spend money…
here’s this bad idea again:
He’s seeking more than $1 billion a year in new revenue to fund projects designed to fund public transit and highway operations, reduce MBTA debt and borrow money to double infrastructure spending. Beacon Hill leaders reportedly signaled agreement.
Boston.com reports legislative leaders agree more money is needed to build up the state’s transportation system, and that they are willing to discuss new taxes. Massachusetts has avoided raising the gas tax since 1991.
According to Boston.com, Patrick listed possible revenue sources including:
Raising the gas tax from 21 cents to 51 cents per gallon
Raising the sales tax from 6.25 percent to 7.75 percent
Raising the state income tax to 5.66 percent from 5.25 percent
Levying a vehicle miles-traveled tax at 2.4 cents per mile
New, emissions-based vehicle title and registration fees could raise $175 million
A payroll tax on workers in regions with transit service could raise $140 million to $207 million
@ lobo91:
true, i never thought i would see a government entity (congress) willingly give up power.
its an unnatural act!
coldwarrior wrote:
The Dem leadership in the House actually sent him a letter asking him to do it.
Takes a massive kick back. Follow the money
Here we go again…
Rodan wrote:
I ain’t a fan of his either or of his puppet master Mr. Obama.
lobo91 wrote:
BWAHAHA!..he’s white! and BO cannot get over that
@ lobo91:
i dont care if i am called a racists anymore. that term has lost any meaning.
Moe Katz wrote:
CW is against using capital letters. I don’t read anything into it.
@ Moe Katz:
mOe,
i’M a jAva pRogrammer aNd i cAmel cAse eVerything iN mY jOb.
cOntext mAn, cOntext.
@ lobo91:
Hank cannot get over that Obama is white.
All this talk about who is or isn’t a Jew is making me hungry for a good corn beef on rye bread sandwich.
@ heysoos:
The interesting thing is of all the organizations they thought to take one, there isn’t one more in-your-face than the NRA -- it does not roll over and play dead because they get bad press. They effed with the wrong amendment this time.
I think Uncle Ted should hold a presser tomorrow. He can surround himself with children saved by adults protecting their homes from the bad guys (who I am sure even now are quaking in their boots over the weight of the 23 Executive Strongly Worded Letters).
@ unclassifiable:
@ coldwarrior:
LOL!
@ lobo91:
if they didnt go after f n f or benghazi, why do it now? i just dont see this getting anywhere yet.
@ citizen_q:
My doctor asks me if I own guns, I’ll answer that that’s only relevant if he suspects I’m afflicted with lead poisoning.
coldwarrior wrote:
Welcome into the pool, the water’s fine.
@ heysoos:
I’d say GMTA think alike but the way my mind is working right now I’ll settle for mean SOBs think alike.
The Osprey wrote:
i’m thinkin a run to the jewish deli in squirrel hill…yummers!
@ Carolina Girl:
Hey, CG! New ballad link @ the top of the thread.
Carolina Girl wrote:
ask him if he’s like you drum up some business for him.
seriously, most docs dont want anything to do with this
Carolina Girl wrote:
Exactly, it is irrelevant.
I will, discuss with my wife to ignore, obfuscate, lie.
It is nobody’s business but mine how I do or don’t excersize any of my civil rights.
citizen_q wrote:
obama and his crew have beat it out of me. i just dont care anymore. if i am a racist, so what.
@ coldwarrior:
I’d just hand him a business card and say “What do you think?”
I gave the vet one of Leia’s business cards. She showed it to everyone else at the clinic.
lobo91 wrote:
well, yeah!
coldwarrior wrote:
That is what I am hoping.
Most of my physicians seem busy enough without being the grabbermint’s informer, but members of my local shooting blog have reported them or their kids being asked.
@ coldwarrior:
Leia is probably the only Sheltie in town who has business cards.
It is interesting to see that the formerly-loquacious “Moe Katz,” when asked in effect to put up or shut up in #96, has …shut up.
@ heysoos:
I hope ol’ Hank is keeping a weathered eye on the status and shifting of personnel on Guam.
BTW Hank — there are Black people (GASP!) that are members of the NRA.
citizen_q wrote:
then it is time to have a serious conversation with these pediatricians. they can lose business over this
lobo91 wrote:
the star of the sales force had better have a card!
Carolina Girl wrote:
oh snap! was that him?
@ coldwarrior:
Yup. One of the leading minds of the House Dems.
@ Iron Fist:
Yeah, Colon Bowell -- and “ROOTS” really happened juuuust the way Alex Haley said it did -- right down to not a decent white person in the bunch.
@ coldwarrior:
I worked for Xerox for a short-time back in the 80′s to help work my way through school, I still remember in my training how they wnated us to refer to copies as photo-copies, not Xerox’es because they could lose their trademark if the term Xerox became a synonym for photo-copy. They are over using the racism charge, same principal.
@ citizen_q:
It depends where you are. When I lived in NorCal the Palo Alto Medical Center gave me a health questionnaire that asked if I had firearms in the home. Here in AZ it’s never come up. Except for my chiropractor. He always wants to tell me about whatever new gun he has just bought.
@ coldwarrior:
Would be nice if that no-balled Speaker of the House came out against it as swell.
lobo91 wrote:
perfect!
So, from the list today.
B. Todd Jones, current acting director of the ATF and also the U.S. Atty. for Minnesota. Has been from Aug. 31, 2012.
What is knows and when he knew it will be redacted post hast regarding Fast and Furious.
One thing sure, no one works for this con man commie puck thug from Chicago unless they are a yes person 100%.
@ citizen_q:
yep, desensitized to the word.
Carolina Girl wrote:
he has got to go, i mean really, if we are going to lose on a national level, lets go big!
coldwarrior wrote:
Think of what this will mean for mental health professionals. The way I read the EOs, and current climate visiting one could be a minefield.
Iron Fist wrote:
It’s much ado about nothing.
Carolina Girl wrote:
“Roots” was Alex Haley’s great work of plagiarism. His great work of fiction was “The Autobiography of Malcolm X.”
@ taxfreekiller:
He’s a long-time associate of Eric Holder.
And of course he’s black. Not that I care, but it means that nobody will be allowed to ask any questions about him without being called racist.
Rodan wrote:
Not entirely; the pushing for “health-related” measures as pertains to guns would be worrying even if Obamacare did not exist; with Obamacare, it is cause for much watchfulness.
Rodan wrote:
Number 13 isn’t.
BO is my most admired role model…therefor I will obey only the laws that I see fit and ignore the rest….thanks Barry!
The Osprey wrote:
I have heard a few reports from members of my local gun blog.
I have not been asked, and lord knows I have seen several physicians in the last few years, so it may be as practice specific as geographic.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
really? do tell!
I guess I’ll just have to wait and read the language to see the logic between a doctors visit and gun ownership…I’m sure it will make sense, I’m just too dull witted
coldwarrior wrote:
After “Roots” came out, it was revealed that he’d cribbed large parts of it from another novel, called “The African.” Wiki covers it pretty extensively.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
ah! see, i learned something today.
and a day where one does not learn something is like a day without sunshine.
@ lobo91:
What’s Number 13, I didn’t hear that one? Is it the one that’s health related?
coldwarrior wrote:
how cool is that!….I just learned why people in Seattle are so stupid!…thanks bro
@ Rodan:
It calls for “vigorous” enforcement of existing laws. When the Democrats say things like that, they see the Waco Massacre as a model, not a mistake. Lobo’s right. It is troubling.
heysoos wrote:
The way I see their approach is pretty much anything could be twisted into impacting your health, thus they can use access to healthcare to punish behaviours our betters in the grabbermint don’t like.
@ 49 Moe Katz: It’s the internet. If you want to make the educational point of spelling jewish versus Jewish just saying it is so because you are an editor? that is just a logical error. I’d have to see the actual story.
Adding the stormfront slant seems to say that you think you are talking to stormfront here on this blog? Or you are trying to raise a word boundary on what is a slur to you and what isn’t and advocating an implied emotional context that is yours mostly.
I have no problem capping the word. But j versus J means nothing to me. I sometimes write america but I mean AMerica. It’s the internet.
Rodan wrote:
Sorry…#4, not #13.
They want to add new criteria for prohibitng people from buying guns, which probably means adding the names from the no fly list and terrorist watch lists.
heysoos wrote:
see how that works!
@ lobo91:
That’s scary actually, it creates the groundwork for a national gun owner database down the road.
lobo91 wrote:
Women can’t buy guns unless they wear pants?
Carolina Girl wrote:
The NRA is just starting to get warmed up…
Jay Carney: NRA Ad “Repugnant And Cowardly”
The NRA hit the bullseye with their new add…
@ 181 citizen_q: i find it odd that the dentist wants to check for cancer. I always consider it ludicrousness. But I suppose it saves some people.
Who trains these doctors then on gun safety? It still does noting to solve the deeper mental health issue. I’m ok if the family removes the guns from the mentally ill person. But they also have to remove the baseball bat and the knives. That is just a start.
This is just passing on the cost to the family also with no real support.
The doctor is going to annotate this in the medical record? The medical record is going to be filed and cross indexed to a criminal database? The IRS is going to flag the returns if the proper behavior doesn’t occur?
Or what if I joke to my doctor in all seriousness that I have a machine gun at home. Does the TSA show up at my doorstop and tell me it’s not nice to prank the government and in fact its a felony with penalities?
New Thread.
@ Iron Fist:
Hey look at that.
No EOs on media, entertainment, or video games.
Well at least we now know Barry is for the all for First Amendment.
In that spirit let me say that Barry you are a fascist POS.
@ heysoos:
I thought this charming:
Like the passages were just wandering around like the homeless and jumped into Haley’s typewriter when he wasn’t looking.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I read that brazen BS and laughed out loud…that guy say the stupidest stuff ever
I think the state of Israel needs to provide Jewish people worldwide a chance to visibly offer a simple show of support.
One that declares the State of Israel as supported. One that requires the supporter to recognize the right to exist as Israel. One that requires the support to disapprove of the Hamas charter. One that puts some common sense in peoples minds.
How many jobs in a black market gun mang. and sales operation has Obama just created?
I thought magazines were protected under the First Amendment…
Hey, that’s the ticket! Firing bullets is a form of free speech!
@ 96 buzzsawmonkey: People think I am Jewish because of my name and the way I look. The state of Israel doesn’t count me as Jewish though I think. Born and raised a Methodist. I’ve been called a dirty Jew Bastard several times by black people who would rather take drugs than pay their rent. But I hold them to a sense of responsibility without trying to screw their lives over because they are ignorant in their anger.
All in all. I think any one who is an actual good guy in the world supports Israel. It’s the bad guys who vocalize against Jewish who are the really bad guys in the world. Really bad. Colin Powell in his position should be clear as to where he stands. To me he is not being clear. Polarize it. Make him say it.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I like to think of guns as mechanical engineering works of art.
The boldness of lines combined with the virile completeness of form evoke a feeling of saftey and security in the 1911 .45 ACP within me.
I have to stop writing now as I am now overcome with emotion.
@ darkwords:
Lots of people have a Jew or two lurking somewhere in the family tree; there was lots of conversion—unforced as well as forced—in Europe over the centuries, and some intermarriage. And lots of people take German/Eastern European-sounding names as “Jewish”; though I knew some people who were most definitely Catholic, their last name was Zimmerman, just as the “white Hispanic’s” name is.
unclassifiable wrote:
You know they’re going to put your name on the list now, right?
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@ lobo91:
Dear brothers, we must not forget to nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred towards those Zionists and Jews, and all those who support them. They must be nursed on hatred. The hatred must continue.
Because taking responsiblity for our plight and taking corrective action is just too damn hard. Better to scapegoat some unknown entity beyond our supposed control, no matter how many years have passed, for all your woes is much easier.
I think some people really do deserve to suffer. It’s G-d’s will.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Sorry, “buzzsawmonkey,” I fell asleep under the stimulating thrall of your unparalleled chochmes. If you want to know more about the “who-is-a-Jew” debate I suggest you check the Wikipedia entry.
I don’t feel the need to propound or defend any particular definition, my only point is that orthodox rabbinic Judaism has no exclusive claim to authority on this question, except in the eyes of those who subscribe to said flavor of Judaism. I’m not interested in falling into your trap and, besides, I don’t believe you’re capable of making an argument on this subject that doesn’t beg the question in the manner I just described.
@ Moe Katz:
Coward. All you’ve said is that you’ve got nothing, and taken far too long to say it.
Orthodox rabbinic Judaism does have an exclusive claim to authority in this matter; it has been the exclusive authority since Biblical times. If you believe that you will be “falling into a trap” by actually putting forth some reason why you believe that millennia-old authority is not legitimate, then you are merely trolling.