The genius of our Constitution was that the people who worked out the details of our founding document and proposed it to a fledgling nation, not quite two decades old, realized that they were not perfect. The also realized that there would never be that perfect angel born, in whom we should place the entirety of our trust. They also gave us the ability to make changes to what they had done. To date, there have been 27 such changes officially enacted. With the powers of governing separated, and the three co-equal branches of government being given authority to act as a check and balance for the other two, Our founding fathers set up a system that was designed to limit the authority given to the government, that they would be forever bound by the consent of the people governed, and the minority protected against infringements by a majority upon their right to be secure in their lives, homes, effects, papers, and property.
Our founding law indeed is stronger than any one person who may win elective office, or even the takeover of an entire political party that would seek to replace that document with their own form of centralized control. We have seen previously in our history as a matter of fact, those who would try, and in the end the Constitution has survived, and the usurpations of would be tyrants have ended up occupying the ash heap of history. Fortunately, our founding fathers had the good sense to make those changes difficult to enact. Gridlock, ladies and gentlemen is a good thing indeed. Those people who proposed the Constitution to us realized that it has, for all of man kind’s history, been possible to whip up the emotions of people into temporarily making bad decisions on a collective scale. Crises create mobs, and mobs can be convinced of doing terrible things.
There is a reason why we have been flying from one crisis to another, non stop for the past four years. Given the opportunity to cool down, people would never go for the whole sale changes to our laws that are being foisted upon us. Obamacare would never have passed in Congress in 2009, were it not for the economic crisis, almost entirely manufactured by previous bad government policy by the way. Dodd Frank, Sarbanes Oxley, Tarp, Stimulus, Quantitative Easing, none of it would have happened without people being frightened into allowing the government to do basically anything that it wished to do.
No way the citizens of the United States allow our President to rule via executive fiat for those liberty encroaching dreams from his father, were they not distracted, and indeed frightened, constantly with the crisis du jour. Piece by piece, we have had our basic freedoms striped away, and indeed even had half of our numbers cheer it on, all under the guise of fairness and caring for the less capable, or my personal favorite, “it’s for the children.”
One of the problems with allowing huge swaths of unchecked power to any individual of course is the title question of this essay. What happens next? Let’s pretend for a moment that Barack Obama is everything that he has been advertised to be. Let us further pretend that the 22nd Amendment gets repealed, because darn it, we need this man to be our President for life. Do we give the same trust to our next President for life after Barack? There will always be a future. As much as you liberals love Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, You hated Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Are you in favor of entrusting the same levels of authority to future Presidents more in their mold, as you are giving to our current President?
There is however a silver lining in all of this. To date, these people have not managed a single Amendment to our Constitution. All of the current assaults upon or Constitution are temporary, and can be undone. It will not be easy, and in fact has never happened, but the possibility is there. The even better news is that it takes about 75% support of the American People in order to make any changes to our Constitution. That is something that our current Demagogue in Chief does not have, and more importantly is not anywhere close to having.
All of the laws enacted by the current group of Marxists can be voted out in the same manner in which they were voted in. The executive orders can be countermanded with the same single stroke of a pen with which they were put into place. On January 21, 2017, Barack Obama will no longer be our President, but the Constitution of the United States, with its current 27 Amendments, and no more, will still be the ultimate law of our Republic. Barack Obama’s attempt to destroy our nation will have failed, and history will begin its judgement of the Obama Presidency.
Today, Barack Obama surrounded himself with children and made the ultimate demagogic appeal in his announcement of 23 executive orders that he will unilaterally use to abridge our Second Amendment rights. At least two states have already enacted laws to incarcerate any federal officials who attempt to enforce those orders within the borders of their respective states. The legality of these measures, which bypassed the Legislative Branch, in direct contrast to the laws of our land will be argued probably all the way to the Supreme Court. Before the inevitable challenges make it that far however, the offending rules will probably be signed out of existence just as unilaterally.
America survived other dolts in the past, and our Constitution will survive Barack Obama as well. If one lesson has been taught to us in spades over the past four years, it is that elections have consequences. If you stayed home as a protest this November past, your share of the blame is twice as much as the dopes who voted this group in. Either way, this President and his damage will not last. History will judge him rather unkindly, and our Constitution will survive. Americans you see are capable of getting bored, and boredom with the current state of constant crisis is going to happen. When you boil down Obama’s rap, crisis utilization is really his only political tool.
Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.
The Left wants to make Obama President for life.
@ Rodan:
BS, Rodan
The more I thought about those ridiculous 23 Executive Orders yesterday, you come to the realization that there is nothing there that would have stopped Newtown. Or Aurora, probably. And when these are implemented, of course, we all know that “gun violence” (the new term -- you know like “global warming” became “climate change”) isn’t stopped, poor little Odumbo will go again in front of the American people, surrounded by children, and say “but this is all I can do -- I don’t have the power -- it’s the evil Republicans and the NRA that are keeping us from enacting serious measures to curb gun violence…..if I only had the POWER….”
If he’s going to do a fan dance, the least he could do is hire the ghost of Sally Rand.
theoutsider wrote:
Please, you would support it. He’s your God-King who can not be questioned.
@ Rodan:
Yes they do, but they do not have anywhere near the support necessary to repeal the 22nd Amendment. That maneuver would cause secession amongst the various states, if attempted. We will be done with him January 21st, 2017. Let the healing begin.
@ Flyovercountry:
I wish I shared your optimism, but he will be followed by a Democrat. I think either Deval Patrick or Martin O’Malley will be the next President. I don’t think the GOP will get the White House until 2020 or 2024.
@ Carolina Girl:
It was all huff and puff. It was all for show.
@ Rodan:
Everything this clown does is for show.
nice reminder that the liberal chokehold can be undone….what a legacy eh?…reverse Obamacare and dump all his EO’s….it’s the money taxed, spent and lost that will have to be kissed goodbye, and there again, that amounts to thievery…he’s in deep shit and doesn’t seem to know it, but if it all goes bad and people are killed, it’s will be because of his policies…just wait until Obamacare blows up entirely
Obama demonstrated his real feelings in a 2001 NPR interview.
He bashed the Constitution for having negative rights and not
guaranteeing economic justice.
He demonstrates a real misunderstanding of the purpose of the
document.
Agree with this 100%!
theoutsider wrote:
RIX wrote:
BO is either an idiot or malicious…probably both
RIX wrote:
I would argue that he is not demonstrating “misunderstanding,” but opposition to the Constitution and its purpose—and he gambles (so far, successfully) on popular ignorance and people’s willingness to be bribed with “free” stuff to get away with it.
@ heysoos:
@ RIX:
this is what happens when a lazy, shiftless racial hire is elevated beyond his abilities and beyond his station.
we didnt even get to see his resume!
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Well, he was planning to “fundamentally transform America.” I should think the first thing he’d want to do is throw out the owner’s manual.
@ coldwarrior:
and what does it say about his sycophant supporters?…good grief
the OphonePOTUS
Carolina Girl wrote:
he has, at least, been honest about his intent.
Carolina Girl wrote:
But the people love him as a god.
@ coldwarrior:
I see the outsider ran away when I posted the link of Obama supporters with Communist flag.
heysoos wrote:
i’d rather not elucidate on that topic at this time. i would have to ban myself.
Rodan wrote:
if you force feed facts to trolls, they cry.
why are you so mean to trolls?
@ Rodan:
I try not to be too judgmental, but that guy is a whiner and refuses to contribute at all…what’s his point?
Good piece, I like the optimism. My concern is that the next object to be attacked will be the very Constitution itself. The NYT has already floated this in the past several weeks, deriding our attachment to the Constitution as clinging to scripture. Now, if this kind of thing were to occur, then you will definitely see a split in the country, with states uniting behind the constitution as supreme law of the land and blue states leaving the union to pursue their feel-good follow the cult leader brand of governance. Note that it really will be the states that reject the constitution who are going to be committing rebellion, even if Washington,D.C. Is physically in the same location as those states.
@ Rodan:
If that happens, it won’t matter who’s in charge. The country we know won’t exist anymore.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Nothing would have stopped it, but an armed teacher in the classroom would have saved lives. The Left always say “If it saves on elife” losing our freedom to gun control is worth it, but they steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that guns actually do save lives.
heysoos wrote:
He just repeats OFA talking points. That’s all.
narcissist racial hire in chief:
@ Carolina Girl:
BTW, CG—did you see yesterday’s Ballad?
@ heysoos:
I vote both.
i think i will be shiftless and lazy and take a nap.
bbl!
@ heysoos:
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!
During the first campaign Moochele made the presidency sound
like a minority set-aside.
What the hell happened to the Gates of Vienna blog? Did google take them down?
@ Iron Fist:
And one of the Executive Orders was “appoint an
ATF Director.” Hey dummy -- you can do that WITHOUT an Executive Order! It looked like “compose 23 strongly worded letters” to me.
@ Carolina Girl:
it irritates me that he doesn’t even try to be friendly
@ lobo91:
Let’s see what happens.
The Osprey wrote:
Don’t know.
Carolina Girl wrote:
He could have sent that nomination to the Senate anytime he wanted to. The reason he hasn’t done so is that he knows the confirmation hearings will turn into a discussion of Fast & Furious.
Rodan wrote:
You think we’ll be able to survive $30 trillion in debt?
That’s what we’ll be looking at if your prediction comes true.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I just laughed…all that hoopla for that steaming pile of nonsense?…that’s fine tho, but using the kids regarding guns, murder and mayhem shows a deep insecurity
@ lobo91:
good point, I hadn’t thought of that
@ The Osprey:
Apparently.
Rodan wrote:
It really disturbs me when an anti-jihad blog goes off line.
Rodan wrote:
Not unless they use a Boeing 787 for Air Force One. He can call it the “Dreamliner from My Father.”
@ Rodan:
Since when?
heysoos wrote:
The guy he’s going to nominate is currently serving as acting director, so nothing’s really going to change. I guess he’ll have to order new business cards, but that’s about it.
He’s a long-time associate of Eric Holder. And of course he’s black, which means anyone who tries to ask him any questions will be branded as a racist.
mskelly wrote:
Thanks for the info. Good to hear they are fighting back.
I wonder what Google’s reason for pulling the plug on them is.
I think they need to move to a different blogging platform. They’ve had these issues with Google Blogspot before.
@ lobo91:
Probably not, but it is what it is. I don’t like it but it’s reality. All we can do is take care of ourselves and focus on our faith. There will be no political salvation.
@ lobo91:
thanks for the heads up…there is alot I don’t pay much attention to
@ The Osprey:
It bothers me too. The Islamists are winning thanks to our corrupt elites.
theoutsider wrote:
Check the last thread. I provided links to Obama supporters with Communist flags. You never responded.
But here’s a reminder:
http://expreacherman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/obama-commie-flag.jpg?w=500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_K5_orMQRY
@ The Osprey:
Google has a long history of caving in to demands from totalitarians.
Rodan wrote:
You mean like Anita Dunn and Van Jones?
@ Carolina Girl:
Yeah, he just needs to appoint somebody who can get through the Senate. He has refused to do that his entire term of office. No one is stopping him but himself.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Let’s not forget the Che pictures in Obama campaign offices.
The Outsider is emailing OFA to get the talking point response, so let’s cut him some slack.
@ Rodan:
no
@ Carolina Girl:
I’m mostly worried about what looks like a plan to include the White House Enemies List in the NICS database.
Just a thought. There have been accusations that people
think that Obama is not really culturally American.
I don’t think that he is.
He spent his formative years away from the America Mainland ,
in Hawaii & Indonesia. Hawaii is great , but it’s not Kansas.
He was heavily influenced by Marxists and Islamists.
To tell us what he really thinks of us, four years ago speaking
to a group of drooling sycophants he rapped Americans for
not speaking a foreign language.
He snarked , “‘just saying merci beaucoup is not speaking a
foreign language.
Turns out that he speaks no foreign language with the exception
of some Arabic terms.
@ lobo91:
I’m reading some pulp…The List by Brad Thor…data bases freak me out…the means to keep track of nearly everything you do is astonishing
Rodan wrote:
How about the Mao Christmas tree ornament on the Obama tree?
Nothing says Christmas like Mao Tse Tung!
heysoos wrote:
The reality is that the ability to collect data has far outstripped the ability to analyze it. There’s so much data out there that it’s nearly impossible to separate the important stuff from the garbage.
I’m more worried about their ability to insert bogus data into the system, frankly.
@ Rodan:
You’ve been right more often than I have recently. I just hope you’re wrong this time. But as Sideshow Bob said on the Simpsons, you can’t keep the Republicans out of the White House forever, I’ll be back.
Dayam flyovercountry you know how to throw down the blog post.
Well done!
lobo91 wrote:
Pretty much because the google founders are all very strong statists, they are very much into cronyism and elitist control of the ignorant masses.
@ lobo91:
I’m glad to see it. They really didn’t do that to Clinton when he did the original AWB. The mood of the country has changed on this issue since then, though, and not in a way that favors Obama.
Someone let theoutsider know that Stephanie Cutter is trying to reach him:
lobo91 wrote:
Yup, it’s been that way now for almost 2 decades. Having taken the 9 month long Cisco Network Administrators course (Back in 98-9) I learned that
a) their is no such thing as anonymity on the internet, it’s utterly impossible because of how data packets are routed.
b) The appearance of anonymity exists because of the level of background noise.
Any hacker worth his salt knows that his anonymity is solely a function of his activity profile. In other words, you are only anonymous up to and until someone who knows how to trace packet data decides to go looking specifically for you. If the packet tracer is good, there is no where you can hide.
The important point here being, the sheer volume of constantly accumulating new data creates a level of background noise that is capable of hiding anything that is not specifically being searched for. In other words, you have to know exactly what you are looking for or the volume of data constantly being added makes it impossible to find anything.
Ya, that is one hell of a problem, but it likewise cuts both ways. Not only can governmental agencies insert massive amounts of false or misleading data into the system, but so can anyone else who understands how the system works. That is one of the Achilles heels of the system.
The libertarian Whole Foods CEO, John Mackey, just said Obamacare is fascism on NPR today:
And he had the cojones to say it on the LLLs (Lying Lunatic Liberals) own propaganda outlet so millions of the whiney shits heard it in their Volvos & Priuses while they commute to their $120K+/year government jobs.
The entire blogosphere of the millions of LLLs who control our society have exploded with extreme hissy-fits over the remark.
Perhaps our own “The Outsider” might care to weigh-in on the subject since he’s too busy avoiding the truth about Obama supporters waiving their communist flags.
@ lobo91:
They always want to “keep guns out of the hands of criminals” rather than “keep criminals off the streets”. It is indicative of their mindset that they always go for this. They aren’t concernd abou tthe crime. They are concerned about the gun. Somebody beaten to death with a hammer doesn’t present a political oppertunity for them, so they simply don’t count.
@ lobo91:
Another end run on public information.
Obama is going to presume that he can communicate with his anti-NRA campaign in private and I call BS.
He was dumb to make this public information and there should be a flood of FOIA request forcing him to outline how all communications in this effort will be available to the public because he is carrying out this action as a public official.
Let me further point out that we have the right of free association in this country. This man as President under oath to obey and carry out the laws of the United States is trying nothing less than to break up this association and that action is illegal.
Iron Fist wrote:
Were we following the intended direction of the founding fathers keeping criminals off the streets would not be a problem. In the opinion of our highly esteemed founding fathers, “Men are far less inclined towards criminal activity when the inevitable results of such activity are to be shot in the act of committing a crime”.
lobo91 wrote:
My reading between the lines is that they will find clever ways to make criminals of us all.
@ unclassifiable:
The problem with FOIA requests is that this administration has gone to extraordinary (and illegal) lengths to hide its communications in order to foil such requests.
They routinely use commercial webmail accounts to discuss things they don’t want to become public, which is illegal. There’s also reportedly an entirely separate White House email system--paid for with tax dollars--that they use for the same purpose.
Iron Fist wrote:
Arrested criminals are “political prisoners” who must be freed as rapidly as possible.
The Left lobbied to abolish the death penalty as “cruel and unusual,” and made it “unusual” by litigating so much that a death-penalty conviction is a near-assurance that you will die of old age in prison. “Life in prison is punishment enough,” they said, “The death penalty should be abolished.”
Well, the death penalty largely has been abolished, and is rarely carried out. So, guess what? The Left is now lobbying against life imprisonment as “cruel and unusual punishment.”
They are also lobbying for “proportional imprisonment.” If there are more people of a certain race in prison than of another race, that must be due, not to more people of a particular background committing crimes, but “racist” laws and “racist” enforcement. There have actually been initiatives that argued on behalf of releasing imprisoned criminals until the prison population is “racially proportional” to the larger society.
Iron Fist wrote:
What really needs to be hammered home here is that these crimes all occurred in “gun free” zones. People, especially low information voters, need to come away with the understanding that gun free zones mean the only people with guns in those places were the perpetrators of those atrocities.
We have the chance for a real win here if enough people can be shown that gun free zones really mean “unarmed victim” zones. Should be an easy sell, the locations of the attacks and the high crime rate in cities with the strongest anti-gun laws. Of course that would require an opposition party with a spine a huevos, something not in evidence in Boehner or McConnell and the rest of the GOP establishment.
@ doriangrey:
My point is that when you program the system and know what it keys on, you have the ability to gin up bogus data that is specifically designed to incriminate your enemies.
And since most of these systems are secret, there’s no right to due process involved. You can’t effectively defend yourself against their accusations, because they won’t tell you why you’ve been flagged.
lobo91 wrote:
The appeals to “common sense” are evidence that they’ve got no facts whatever on their side. But demagogically, it is effective with people who have so little common sense that they voted to re-elect Obama, because it flatters their belief that they have some.
Iron Fist wrote:
now is the perfect time for the GOP to unleash the hounds and flat out mock any gun law that cannot be proven to reduce murder…there is so much irrational crap spewing, just pick em off one by one…my favorite is trying to define assault weapon and their deadly pistol grips…whatever the GOP is not pushing back, not pre-emptive, not proactive enough…gotta get in their face
citizen_q wrote:
My reading of both the US Constitution and the Founding Fathers tells me this…
Read carefully what those men had to say. If you are under arrest, in jail or prison, then you should not be armed, but baring that every FREE man has the right to be armed.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Jay Carney actually managed to use “common sense” twice in one sentence the other day.
lobo91 wrote:
Heh heh heh, to quote Inigo Montoya: You (Jay Carney) Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means…
lobo91 wrote:
It is clearly going to be a repeat talking-point, the way Obama kept repeating “millionaires and billionaires” and “fair share.”
Every one here should start formulating in their own minds how to respond to the forthcoming blizzard invocations of “common sense.”
Panetta should be shredded, ripped aaprt for these statements…
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/panetta_people_dont_need_assault_weapons.html
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Yes, but they don’t mind killing people in persuit of their goals. They shed no tears over the dead at Waco. I’d bet Janet Reno felt that they “had it coming” for thwarting her will. Certainly nobody lost their job over the worst law-enforcement debacle in the nation’s history. And they won’t mind imprisoning someone for a long period of time for violating their gun laws. Possession of an unregistered machinegun is really misdemenor tax evasion, but it is a felony punishible by up to ten years in prison. You can do more hard time for having a war trophy in your gun room than you would get for raping a woman. This isn’t considered “cruel and unusual” by the gun control establishment (and presumably by the courts). But death (or even life in prison) for a gangbanger who randomly shoots someone is. Look at all the effort that was spent to save Tookie Williams.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
It’s a Joesph Goebbels technique for propaganda and indoctrination. Repeat certain key words and phrases over and over again until they become fixed in the general populations mind as having the meaning you declare them to have.
@ Iron Fist:
Marxists never do.
someone should ask Biden what parts of the Lott study he disagrees with
lobo91 wrote:
liberal policies get people killed, every day…the body count must be enormous
heysoos wrote:
He’d have to get someone on his staff to tell him.
Iron Fist wrote:
Deterrence is the only way to reduce the threat of violence. A very simple proven fact that the Liberals prefer to ignore at all levels.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
As soon as the White House gets rid of its armed security and puts up “Gun Free Zone” signs, I’ll do the same.
@ lobo91:
I want police limited to civillian law. If a cop can carry it, I should be able to, too.
@ lobo91:
precisely…out his raging ignorance
OFA is sending out its marching orders:
Obama Campaign Manager Brags About Obama Signing 23 Executive Actions, Begs Obamabots For Support On Gun Control…
@ lobo91:
I thought campaign infrastructure had to be dismantled after an election
heysoos wrote:
This is Obama you’re talking about.
heysoos wrote:
He was an awful Defense Secretary but will look brilliant in comparison to Chuck Hagel.
Apparently, if you don’t support Baby Doc Baraq’s latest power grab you are a racist that supports gun violence and lack common sense…
Of course we already know that the Folks with real common sense didn’t vote for Baby Doc Baraq.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
It is purposeful.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
You are according to Tom Brokaw, anyway:
@ lobo91:
Brokaw is the guy who made money off of his book
“The Greatest Generation”
He paid homage to his father & others & then labeled them
a bunch of racists.
@ lobo91:
Except Brokaw has his analogy 180 degress assbackwards.
No surprise there.
It is us who are “speaking out” for our civil (constitutional) rights.
@ RIX:
He may be overstepping, though. People in America like their guns, in general. Sure, they can get away with gun control in places like New York, Chicago, and California, but throughout the rest of the country not so much. Owning a gun is a quinticentially American thing to do. That is why Obama and the Left hate it so much. They want to transform us into a nation of unarmed peasants, but they want us to have the character of unarmed peasants, and even 40 years of public education hasn’t managed to inculcate that in the majority of Americans. I think the Senate will balk at his new gun control proposals. I am certain that most of the 20 Democrats who are up for re-electionin 2014 wish that this issue would just go away.
lobo91 wrote:
The one that keeps coming back into my mind is what is there to stop “them” from inputting all the names from the many Red State phone books. I see Baby Doc’s plan as one to insure more Folks fail background checks.
@ Iron Fist:
Obama is more interested in demonizing his opponents and
scoring points than actual gun control right now.
But at the end of the day he does want to come for the guns.
Daffy Duck wrote:
Exactly. Second Amendment rights are civil rights. The NRA isn’t the gun lobby. They are a civil rights organization. The people who are for gun control are as anti-civil rights as Bull Connor and Orville Faubus (both Democrats, I might add).
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I believe that’s exactly what they have in mind.
For several years now, Democrats have been pushing to have the names off the TSA and NCTC watch lists added to the NICS database. Everyone knows that 90% of what’s in those lists is either wrong or duplicative, but they don’t care about that. They just want to gum up the works.
And there’s absolutely nothing stopping them from putting any name they want onto one of those lists, because they’re secret.
lobo91 wrote:
re-post:
Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
—apologies to “Barnacle Bill the Sailor”
“Who’s demanding joint session?
Who’s demanding joint session?
Who’s demanding joint session?”
Cried the US Congress
“For you I sent—I’m the President”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“I want to inform you of my intent”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“I want you to fast-track my jobs bill
If I say “Pass it now” then I know you will
Who cares if there’s no money in the till?”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“You have sent us no bill yet
You have sent us no bill yet
You have sent us no bill yet,”
Cried the US Congress
“That’s just a detail, so don’t you wail,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“We’ll get full employment and high-speed rail,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“My principles I have outlined
It’s your job to see that they’re combined
Because I like to lead from behind,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“What about the Stimulus?
What about the Stimulus?
What about the Stimulus?
Cried the US Congress
“The jobs weren’t shovel-ready then,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“That’s why I need you to spend again,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“I’ll raise taxes on all the nobs
To subsidize union flash mobs
And maybe create a couple of jobs,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“But we have to read the bill,
But we have to read the bill,
But we have to read the bill,”
Cried the US Congress
“Such niceties you should ignore,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“You never asked to read the bill before,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
“What’s in the bill? Why should you care?
Just pass it and you’ll find out what’s there
You have my word you’ll pay your fair share,”
Said Pass-the-Bill-Now Obama
RIX wrote:
Oh, I am certain of that. But there are still limits on his power. If he gave a general confiscation order, most law enforcement in many parts of the country would simply ignore it. He doesn’t have enough BATF fanatics to do anything on a national level, and he knows that. And there would be resistance. How much is uncertain, but there would be resistance.
doriangrey wrote:
Justice. Simple, swift, and certain.
Facts? We don’t need no steenkin’ facts!:
A Democratic state assemblywoman, Angelica Jimenez, has proposed that all new gun buyers in New Jersey undergo a mental health evaluation and home inspection first.
@ lobo91:
And if there is not an armed person to oppose the perp, that few seconds makes no difference. The only real solution is the elimination of gun free zones since they have now been shown multiple times that they don’t work.
@ lobo91:
Seconds count only if people are shooting back at you or are aggressive in other ways. Such as might happen against multiple home invaders. People have been trained to be passive in situation slike this, and simply run to get away. Very few people would charge the shooter and try to disarm him while he was changing magazines. OTOH< armed victims could shoot back. If the President was really concerned with victims, he’d be focusing on the things that could do them some good.
@ lobo91:
Well that settles it then. They will have to ban all firearms. For the children of course.
Is a slash really needed?
citizen_q wrote:
Or we could ban children.
Actually, I think a lot of people on the left would like to do that, but that’s another matter…
@ lobo91:
Ban people! That is the Left’s wildest dream. The Left are very anti-human…
@ lobo91:
Or, as I’ve said before, ban public schools -- they produce a disproportionate amount of the killers, and victims.
@ Iron Fist:
Yes! Mother Gaia would be so clean, and pure, and happy…unicorns, rainbows, and, and…
@ Daffy Duck:
The Left think that the best thing you can do for the children is have an abortion…
lobo91 wrote:
Iron Fist wrote:
Have we segued into climate change? I thought the off yourself bit was those really serious about reducing humans carbon footprint.
/
citizen_q wrote:
When that proposal first came up, someone suggested that the fact that a person wanted to own a gun should cause them to fail the mental health evaluation.
And they were serious.
@ citizen_q:
What makes you think these are different people?
Stupid people believe stupid crap.
citizen_q wrote:
The climate change people should be partying down over Newtown. Lanza did his job for Gaia in reducing carbon footprints, eliminating not only his own and his mother’s, but the huge carbon footprints that would have resulted in those twenty kids growing to adulthood and starting families of their own. He’s a climate change hero!
lobo91 wrote:
The same Liberals that threw a hissy fit over Nixon’s tape recorder…
@ lobo91:
It would not surprise me.
If weren’t so serious and tragic, it would almost be funny watching these fools try to out do each other in “common sense” schemes.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Nixon was a Republican. Surely you see the difference…
heysoos wrote:
Good luck with that.
You’ll never be able to pull the useless GOPee out from underneath the bed they’re hiding under…
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
As well as with the brady and anti 2nd Amendment crowd.
Iron Fist wrote:
Of course.
New Thread.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I did! I had massive project so I didn’t get a chance to comment on it.