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Gates of Vienna shut down by Google Blogger, moved to gatesofvienna.net

by 1389AD ( 126 Comments › )
Filed under Blogwars, Dhimmitude, Free Speech at January 22nd, 2013 - 9:00 pm

Here’s how it all started:

From facebook.com/Gates.of.Vienna:

Gates of Vienna blog not found

Public message:

Please note: Google has pulled the Gates of Vienna blog. It happened suddenly, around 6-7 hours ago. The Baron is on the case.

I don’t have any further information apart from that, but am sure GoV will be back better than ever before we know it.

Email update from Baron Bodissey:

I apologize for replying to all of you with this mass email, but I have no other way of responding in a timely manner.

Blogger “removed” our blog suddenly last night. One second it was there; the next it was gone. If we had violated their terms of service, we should have received an email, according to their own established procedure. But we received no email.

I retain my “dashboard” account, as does Dymphna. And, as you can see, I still have the gmail account.

There is no “deleted blogs” link on our dashboards, as there should be if the blog had been deleted deliberately through a normal procedure.

For those of you who wrote about your own experiences connected with giving Google your cell phone number: this can’t be an issue, because I gave Google our landline number several years ago, when they would not let me into this gmail account without my giving them a phone number.

Late last night I began the process that one always goes through with Blogger: I posted a request on the help forum. That’s really all that can be done; you can’t talk to human beings where Google is concerned.

Henrik Raeder Clausen is our technical guru. He also posted on the help forum, and has actually received a response, which is unusual with Google. Based on the replies, there seems to have been a major problem with Blogger last night. Many other blogs disappeared in the same fashion.

I anticipate that this is most likely a technical glitch on Google’s part, based on the number and types of blogs that had the same thing happen to them last night. But we should know for certain within another day or two.

It’s also possible (but far less likely, in my estimation) that we were taken down for political reasons. If it was a deliberate take-down, we will migrate to another platform with our own domain name. We back up the entire blog frequently, and the last backup was on Monday. So only a few posts will be missing when we restore.

This is all that we know at present. I’ll send out more emails if I find out anything else. Dymphna will also send out Twitter messages.

Thank you all for your concern and support.

Second email update from Baron Bodissey:

I apologize for replying to all of you again with this mass email, but I have no other way of responding in a timely manner.

Our blog has now been returned to us!

Blogger “removed” our blog suddenly last night. One second it was there; the next it was gone. If we had violated their terms of service, we should have received an email, according to their own established procedure. But we received no email.

Now it has reappeared just as mysterously as it disappeared. No message, no explanation.

I think this was a technical glitch at Google, given how many other blogs were affected, including lots of non-political ones.

We will continue with our “disaster preparedness” policy, with an eye towards a migration to a secure platform that we have complete control over.

Update January 20, 2013: Google Blogger shuts down GoV again

From: Gates of Vienna
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:34 PM
Subject: Another one

Sorry to hit everybody en masse, but Blogger has taken us down again.
This one is different:

———
Hello,

Google has received a Terms of Service complaint regarding malicious
code on your blog. After conducting our review, and in accordance with
Google’s Terms of Service, we have removed the content at issue.

Terms of Service: http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
Content Policy: http://www.blogger.com/content.g

The Google Team
———

That’s all I know at the moment. We are backed up, so we are OK for a
new start somewhere else.

Baron Bodissey

Thank you all for your concern and support.

Update January 21, 2013: GoV has MOVED

From: Gates of Vienna
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:32 PM
Subject: Gates of Vienna has moved

Gates of Vienna has moved. Our new location is:

http://gatesofvienna.net

Previous content is in the process of migrating to the new site. Most is already in place.

I owe a big debt of gratitude to Henrik Ræder Clausen, Vlad Tepes, and KGS for their help setting up the new site and tutoring me in the nuances of WordPress.

We will shortly have the archives and the comments, but the new template hasn’t really been established — just the bare minimum to get us up and running. The rest of the process will take a while.

The old site at blogspot will not redirect to the new site, because Google has locked the blog. We have filed a request for a review of our status, but there’s no telling whether that will work — Google has not communicated with us except for the initial notice, which was:

Hello,

Google has received a Terms of Service complaint regarding malicious code on your blog. After conducting our review, and in accordance with Google’s Terms of Service, we have removed the content at issue.

Terms of Service: http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
Content Policy: http://www.blogger.com/content.g

The Google Team

In the meantime, if everyone could change their links to us on their sites, as well as their bookmarks, that will help the search engines find the new URL and give us back some of our ranking.

If I have any other important news about all this, I’ll send out another mass email. Otherwise, check in at the new URL for information on the situation.

Thank you all for your interest and support.

Baron Bodissey

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126 Responses to “Gates of Vienna shut down by Google Blogger, moved to gatesofvienna.net”
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  1. 1 | January 22, 2013 9:10 pm

    Perhaps the Corpulent One of Culver City might have had something to do with this?


  2. heysoos
    2 | January 22, 2013 9:40 pm

    not hip to any of this stuff…I’m into hot rods and guitars


  3. AZfederalist
    3 | January 22, 2013 9:42 pm

    @ Macker

    Hard to tell. Google is one of the most opaque organizations out there. Being able to contact a human being is a foreign concept to those cats.


  4. song_and_dance_man
    4 | January 22, 2013 9:44 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Perhaps the Corpulent One of Culver City might have had something to do with this?

    Who’s next? Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugged? If they are on Google servers they should migrate now.


  5. brookly red
    5 | January 22, 2013 9:45 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Perhaps the Corpulent One of Culver City might have had something to do with this?

    I don’t give him that stature, as they said many blogs went down. I do however question the timing, hmmm?


  6. 6 | January 22, 2013 9:49 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    Perhaps the Corpulent One of Culver City might have had something to do with this?

    Who’s next? Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugged? If they are on Google servers they should migrate now.

    They’re not. Jihad Watch was hit with a DDoS attack, which is a hacker attack.

    And neither is 1389 Blog.

    CzechRebel: “Do ONLY Harm: Google’s True Motto”


  7. brookly red
    7 | January 22, 2013 9:52 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Macker wrote:
    Perhaps the Corpulent One of Culver City might have had something to do with this?

    Who’s next? Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugged? If they are on Google servers they should migrate now.

    They’re not.

    And neither is 1389 Blog.

    CzechRebel: “Do ONLY Harm: Google’s True Motto”

    and speaking of commies on the interwebs, also last night http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/22/us-cuba-internet-idUSBRE90L13020130122


  8. heysoos
    8 | January 22, 2013 9:54 pm

    my pot boy tells me I have a once in a lifetime chance to buy ‘chocolate bar’ hash…I’m curious


  9. 9 | January 22, 2013 10:05 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    my pot boy tells me I have a once in a lifetime chance to buy ‘chocolate bar’ hash…I’m curious

    To me, THIS is hash. ;)

    It goes with mustard-style barbecue sauce.


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | January 22, 2013 10:05 pm

    google has done nothing wrong. when something is free, be it facebook or a blog on google YOU are the product. you are the data mine, you are the $$$ generator.

    if it is free you are the product to be terminated at the company’s whim.

    sorry. that is how it is.


  11. coldwarrior
    11 | January 22, 2013 10:07 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    we pay quite a bit to keep this little shop open. we pay so we dont have to worry about being shut down. we were, once, for an hour. then we, the client with the checkbook called and hey, presto, back on line.


  12. coldwarrior
    12 | January 22, 2013 10:08 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    my pot boy tells me I have a once in a lifetime chance to buy ‘chocolate bar’ hash…I’m curious

    if that is what i think it is…oh my.


  13. song_and_dance_man
    13 | January 22, 2013 10:10 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    my pot boy tells me I have a once in a lifetime chance to buy ‘chocolate bar’ hash…I’m curious

    I sued to sell hash oil. It came in many colors and as a selling point I would name them. Blond, Purple Haze, Honey Oil, Red Dragon, Brown Out. I quit smoking in the 80′s but I haven’t heard of it since the late 70′s.


  14. 14 | January 22, 2013 10:10 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    google has done nothing wrong. when something is free, be it facebook or a blog on google YOU are the product. you are the data mine, you are the $$$ generator.
    if it is free you are the product to be terminated at the company’s whim.
    sorry. that is how it is.

    I’m not saying it’s illegal.

    I am saying it’s morally wrong. Huge difference.

    Especially since Google’s YouTube constantly hosts jihadi recruitment videos, while frequently taking down counterjihad videos. They also lie. In this case, they lied about malware being on the GoV blog.

    I’m also saying that no serious blogger should host with Google Blogger. It’s good for the online equivalent of doodling, and nothing more.


  15. 15 | January 22, 2013 10:11 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    we pay quite a bit to keep this little shop open. we pay so we dont have to worry about being shut down. we were, once, for an hour. then we, the client with the checkbook called and hey, presto, back on line.

    We do too. We use GoDaddy as the hosting provider and we use open-source WordPress software.

    As I said, Gates of Vienna has already moved. You might want to update your sidebar blogroll.


  16. song_and_dance_man
    16 | January 22, 2013 10:11 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    google has done nothing wrong

    Legally no, but if they were behind it for political reasons, ethically yes,


  17. lobo91
    17 | January 22, 2013 10:14 pm

    @ AZfederalist:

    Hard to tell. Google is one of the most opaque organizations out there.

    Well, next to the Obama administration.

    Of course, unlike them, Google never claimed to be transparent.


  18. coldwarrior
    18 | January 22, 2013 10:15 pm

    @ 1389AD:
    @ song_and_dance_man:

    sorry, we are going to disagree there.

    google can do what it likes with its products. even if YOU are the product. read the user agreement.

    and oh, youtube hosts some serious and violent pro-serb vids and serious killem’ all muslims vids too.


  19. brookly red
    19 | January 22, 2013 10:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    my pot boy tells me I have a once in a lifetime chance to buy ‘chocolate bar’ hash…I’m curious

    if that is what i think it is…oh my.

    it is… lots is coming out of California these days. Since the hash is made from the sap or resin it goes unaccounted for. The actual plants can be counted and weighed but where the sap goes nobody knows…


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | January 22, 2013 10:20 pm

    @ brookly red:

    ohhhhhhboy.


  21. song_and_dance_man
    21 | January 22, 2013 10:24 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    sorry, we are going to disagree there.

    Yes we are. I think my point was valid as was yours, insofar as they can do what they want with ‘product’. But it ends there.

    I have the right to toss my son out of the house now that he’s an adult just because I have the right to. But that alone doesn’t justify that it is the right thing to do if I perceived that he may not agree with my political positions.


  22. darkwords
    22 | January 22, 2013 10:28 pm

    Roe vs Wade story. Short.


  23. darkwords
    23 | January 22, 2013 10:29 pm

    Here is a similiar example of do no evil google support.

    google is probably a bad place to host a blog you want to rely on. And the bing search engine now is just as good as google.com


  24. coldwarrior
    24 | January 22, 2013 10:29 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    a company’s management may decide to do what it likes with its product. they make decisions, the market reacts. i will not begrudge them for making a decision based on their parameters. i can disagree with them and then decide what is my action. i dont like boycotts, they are stupid. i prefer buycotts. is there an alternative to google we can use? if there is not, why not? is there a hole in the market that needs to be filled?

    it is irrelevant from where they draw the decision. in the end, the market decides what is right.


  25. darkwords
    25 | January 22, 2013 10:30 pm

    @ 8 heysoos: Eat less than you smoke. And it takes an hour for the high to occur. I made the mistake of not knowing either of those two items and ended up with some embarrassing consequences.


  26. darkwords
    26 | January 22, 2013 10:32 pm

    @ coldwarrior: yahoo.com is lefty populated. Bing.com is at least run by a capitalistic company.


  27. heysoos
    27 | January 22, 2013 10:32 pm

    pure, raw Texas blues
    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U


  28. heysoos
    28 | January 22, 2013 10:33 pm

    @ darkwords:
    I’m an expert at getting high…thanks tho


  29. song_and_dance_man
    29 | January 22, 2013 10:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Of course, unlike them, Google never claimed to be transparent.

    I think the Chair admin is transparent, because I can see right through them.

    The problem is that over 50% of the voting block is either politically blind, get their info from the MSM, ignorant, stupid, racist, apathetic or see clearly and want America globally leveled to where other Socialist leaning nations are headed.


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | January 22, 2013 10:33 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 8 heysoos: Eat less than you smoke. And it takes an hour for the high to occur. I made the mistake of not knowing either of those two items and ended up with some embarrassing consequences.

    gospel.


  31. darkwords
    31 | January 22, 2013 10:35 pm

    @ 10 coldwarrior: There is a hiddden economic good. Your eyeballs and what information you let google collect about them. Is the free search results adequate compensation for the aggregate loss of privacy and the brick wall you hit when you complain.

    Some legislator should write tight privacy laws for individual, get them passed, and then sue the information monopolies whereever they occur. Gatesofvienna should be advocating that as a constant headline. And keyword their google problems on posts. Other people with similiar problems will then find them and learn from their experience.


  32. coldwarrior
    32 | January 22, 2013 10:36 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ coldwarrior: yahoo.com is lefty populated. Bing.com is at least run by a capitalistic company.

    bing is microsoft…that same microsoft that was obama’s big corporate supporter so they would get the $$$ govt contract. that is a business decision as well. i dont begrudge them the payolla in this current environment because the sheep will never figure it out.


  33. song_and_dance_man
    33 | January 22, 2013 10:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    it is irrelevant from where they draw the decision. in the end, the market decides what is right.

    Now that is something I can agree with. If they felt pressure from outside entities that had something to do with their bottom line to purge unsavory(to them) elements they host, then I can see that on a business level.


  34. coldwarrior
    34 | January 22, 2013 10:42 pm

    @ darkwords:

    lotsa should and no action. google is obviously filling a void in the ‘use me as a product’ market. market forces can also take it down.


  35. darkwords
    35 | January 22, 2013 10:42 pm

    Modern society has grown many totalitarian BIG INFO companies. In search of their BIG INFO goals they leverage away the freedoms of the small powerless individual. The United States of America has a history of leveling that type of playing field.

    In a start up mode Microsoft needed to leverage the competition. As did Facebook. As did Google. but at a certain point the market gets altered and closed. Google still does some pretty cool things but it might be good to legislate some privacy rules to meet the new information age.


  36. song_and_dance_man
    36 | January 22, 2013 10:43 pm

    @ darkwords:
    @ coldwarrior:
    I started use this a few weeks ago

    https://startpage.com/

    It doesn’t have many of the features yahoo or google has, but it’s less intrusive.


  37. darkwords
    37 | January 22, 2013 10:45 pm

    @ 34 coldwarrior: Except that the privacy value is a hidden good that could be recognized by legislatures. Google could still function as is but would need to work with information differently.


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | January 22, 2013 10:46 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    change ‘unsavory to them’ to ‘unneeded product’ and we are at agreement.


  39. coldwarrior
    39 | January 22, 2013 10:48 pm

    jeeze! these cfl bulbs are impossible to work with. i am trying to stain and seal some baseboards i made and i cant see shit.

    then i walk em into the halogen lamp lit bar and see all the errors.

    grrrr…..this wouldn’t happen under incandescent lighting.


  40. darkwords
    40 | January 22, 2013 10:48 pm

    @ 36 song_and_dance_man: Set that one as my default and removed google.com will test it out. Free Market at work. :-)


  41. song_and_dance_man
    41 | January 22, 2013 10:51 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    I have no idea why google was messing with GoV, but if it is as suspected then we will once again have to disagree.

    Cool, I strung 4 two letter words in a row. That may be a first.


  42. coldwarrior
    42 | January 22, 2013 10:53 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I have no idea why google was messing with GoV, but if it is as suspected then we will once again have to disagree.
    Cool, I strung 4 two letter words in a row. That may be a first.

    in the end, the corporation must do ONE thing.

    make money for the stockholders. that is their only moral imperative.


  43. coldwarrior
    43 | January 22, 2013 10:54 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 36 song_and_dance_man: Set that one as my default and removed google.com will test it out. Free Market at work.

    and there ya are!


  44. 44 | January 22, 2013 10:54 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    it is irrelevant from where they draw the decision. in the end, the market decides what is right.
    Now that is something I can agree with. If they felt pressure from outside entities that had something to do with their bottom line to purge unsavory(to them) elements they host, then I can see that on a business level.

    I strongly suspect that the Google Blogger admin team has been infiltrated by leftist/pro-jihadi types who mess up people’s blogs on purpose and then pass it all off as a technical glitch.

    That’s what they get for hiring h-1b’s, all too many of whom are Muslims.


  45. darkwords
    45 | January 22, 2013 10:55 pm

    @ 42 coldwarrior: In a healthy economy markets are still structured by a government to frame the morals of buyers and sellers. Better customer service could be required of Google.


  46. song_and_dance_man
    46 | January 22, 2013 10:56 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    make money for the stockholders. that is their only moral imperative.

    Change moral to profiteering and we are close. ;-)


  47. 47 | January 22, 2013 10:56 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    is there an alternative to google we can use?

    Bing.


  48. 48 | January 22, 2013 10:57 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    I have no idea why google was messing with GoV, but if it is as suspected then we will once again have to disagree.
    Cool, I strung 4 two letter words in a row. That may be a first.

    in the end, the corporation must do ONE thing.
    make money for the stockholders. that is their only moral imperative.

    What the management does (in the case of west coast tech firms, it’s contributing to/shilling for Demonrats) is one thing; what the rank-and-file employees surreptitiously do (some of whom are Muslim moles who hack into things) is another. In either case, they may be pursuing agendas that are not in the interests of the stockholders.


  49. coldwarrior
    49 | January 22, 2013 10:57 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    make money for the stockholders. that is their only moral imperative.
    Change moral to profiteering and we are close.

    the corporation exists for ONE reason only.


  50. darkwords
    50 | January 22, 2013 10:58 pm

    @ 44 1389AD: Google has an automated reporting system like Twitter. You can get canned by organized trolling of your site. And google as recently as last year had community managers on board working for free but allowed to flag blogs for various reasons. Google can be manipulated by a few lefty individual working in their support area. It can disrupt a blog and make it hard to recover.


  51. darkwords
    51 | January 22, 2013 10:59 pm

    @ 49 coldwarrior: But the government trumps the corporation when we get to one things.


  52. song_and_dance_man
    52 | January 22, 2013 11:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    the corporation exists for ONE reason only.

    Yeah and the Chair admin exists to uphold the Constitution.


  53. darkwords
    53 | January 22, 2013 11:01 pm

    Vaccine policies would be one area where governments affect corporations for better or worse.


  54. song_and_dance_man
    54 | January 22, 2013 11:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Bing.

    Bing sucks.


  55. heysoos
    55 | January 22, 2013 11:02 pm

    some nice background muzak while you guys do your thing…
    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFFVQYW1p8


  56. darkwords
    56 | January 22, 2013 11:03 pm

    Just because not directed at anyone.

    American Infidel ‏@AlieNicole7
    Yeah My other personality doesn’t like you either #caring


  57. AZfederalist
    57 | January 22, 2013 11:03 pm

    I think google’s motto is “Don’t be evil”


  58. song_and_dance_man
    58 | January 22, 2013 11:07 pm

    anyway, I still think it was lousy that google did a pathetic thing where right is concerned. Yeah, they have a right to do what they want with the content they provide, but it still doesn’t make it right for those of us who rely on institutions like them to be fair.


  59. CynicalConservative
    59 | January 22, 2013 11:07 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    No curly bulbs allowed in this house.
    /galt


  60. darkwords
    60 | January 22, 2013 11:07 pm

    All the cool people are over at DoD.


  61. darkwords
    61 | January 22, 2013 11:08 pm

    @ 57 AZfederalist: That seems like the Devil MO doesn’t it?


  62. heysoos
    62 | January 22, 2013 11:09 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    All the cool people are over at DoD.

    no I’m not…you’re confused


  63. song_and_dance_man
    63 | January 22, 2013 11:09 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    All the cool people are over at DoD.

    Well I guess I better sign off since I’m warm.


  64. lobo91
    64 | January 22, 2013 11:12 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Have you tried a different temperature of CFL?


  65. darkwords
    65 | January 22, 2013 11:13 pm

    @ 64 lobo91: One would think there would be a market now for home made glass blown light bulbs. ones that last 25 years.


  66. lobo91
    66 | January 22, 2013 11:15 pm

    Heh

    It’s Official: Matt Damon’s Anti-Fracking Propaganda Flick “Promised Land” Bombs At The Box Office…

    Matt Damon’s much hyped anti-fracking film “Promised Land” has failed to make the impact that its producers and environmental groups had hoped for. As of January 20, “Promised Land” has raked in a whopping total of $7,542,000 since it opened on December 28, according to Box Office Mojo. According to The Hill, the movie cost $15 million to make. Box Office Mojo ranked it 139 out of all movies from Jan. 23, 2012 to Jan. 21, 2013.


  67. darkwords
    67 | January 22, 2013 11:17 pm

    @ 66 lobo91: Frac he says.


  68. lobo91
    68 | January 22, 2013 11:23 pm

    Wow. I don’t care where you stand on the issue of abortion, this has to be the single sickest video I’ve seen in recent memory:

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEMnyiDKUJI


  69. AZfederalist
    69 | January 22, 2013 11:35 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Posted this on another blog re this horrible video:

    May God have mercy on our country. This callous attitude toward life is evidence of a decadent civilization. The split in the country may be needed to split those who love life from those who despise it.


  70. lobo91
    70 | January 22, 2013 11:39 pm

    @ AZfederalist:

    I’m really starting to feel like I’m living in some sort of mirror universe lately. Between that garbage, that idiotic “first time” video, the DNC delegates screaming to remove all references to God from their platform…


  71. AZfederalist
    71 | January 22, 2013 11:44 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Disheartening, isn’t it? How can we ask The Lord to bless our country and endeavors when these are the kind of people leading it? The same people,celebrating forty years of killing babies,in the womb or leaving those who survive to die in a closet are the same ones who want to take away our ability to defend ourselves from those who would do us harm.


  72. Moe Katz
    72 | January 23, 2013 12:07 am

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Bing.
    Bing sucks.

    Bing is my favorite singer.


  73. lobo91
    73 | January 23, 2013 12:12 am

    @ AZfederalist:

    Disheartening, isn’t it? How can we ask The Lord to bless our country and endeavors when these are the kind of people leading it?

    About all we can do is ask for His help in taking it back.


  74. coldwarrior
    74 | January 23, 2013 12:27 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    frank

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQdE_i7bCd8


  75. darkwords
    75 | January 23, 2013 12:30 am

    A little too graphic for me. But someone sent me a link of free graphic novels online by Kyle Baker.


  76. darkwords
    76 | January 23, 2013 12:31 am

    @ 70 lobo91:Some large church is going to have to sue the government to back off.


  77. coldwarrior
    77 | January 23, 2013 12:32 am

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s29ZpXvF10A


  78. AZfederalist
    78 | January 23, 2013 12:34 am

    @ lobo91:

    Yep. I am coming to the conclusion that we should be saying, “What we can be doing, is asking for His help”. When we say “All we can do “, it seems to relegate prayer to a last resort, less effective action than others. In reality, we need to see this as our first resort and effective action. The answer we get may not be our will, but we know whatever happens will be in accordance with His will.

    /Not busting on what you said, just sharing a thought that has hit me over the pst several months.


  79. Moe Katz
    79 | January 23, 2013 12:35 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Bing and Frank together
    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kq1JQUhwVQ


  80. Xeon
    80 | January 23, 2013 12:40 am

    I use duckduckgo.com, they are big on privacy(supposedly}
    It works.


  81. coldwarrior
    81 | January 23, 2013 12:41 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    nice.


  82. Calo
    82 | January 23, 2013 12:42 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    @ coldwarrior:

    What, is this old school night tonight?

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB64vAgIvig


  83. Moe Katz
    83 | January 23, 2013 12:46 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    Getting into prewar Sinatra these days. This is from 1939, with Dorsey’s orchestra. Such a voice before he screwed it up with booze and cigarettes!

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMmJq6Q_oY


  84. coldwarrior
    84 | January 23, 2013 12:47 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    sinatra and booze and smokes.

    i choose that.


  85. Moe Katz
    85 | January 23, 2013 12:48 am

    @ Calo:
    You knew that melody was a Russian folk tune? You some kind of Commie?


  86. Calo
    86 | January 23, 2013 12:53 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    I am from Kommiefornia originally. :wink:


  87. Moe Katz
    87 | January 23, 2013 12:54 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    I am from Kommiefornia originally.

    That’s why you can tolerate me.


  88. coldwarrior
    88 | January 23, 2013 12:56 am

    @ Calo:

    sat lecture laforte fractures.


  89. Calo
    89 | January 23, 2013 1:00 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    Worse yet, I went to San Francisco State University.

    I can tolerate just about anyone. :lol:


  90. Moe Katz
    90 | January 23, 2013 1:03 am

    @ Calo:
    Funny :)

    Speaking of which, I thought I’d made a male friend, a visiting prof. Turns out he was after my poor old body. Now I know how you gals feel.


  91. Moe Katz
    91 | January 23, 2013 1:03 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    May the lafortes be with you.


  92. coldwarrior
    92 | January 23, 2013 1:05 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    May the lafortes be with you.

    and also with you


  93. Calo
    93 | January 23, 2013 1:05 am

    @ coldwarrior:
    Blech, neuro stuff always scared me.

    I gotta work Saturday and then go work again at the kid’s swim meet, but I’ll check it out.

    You know I always enjoy Grand Rounds.


  94. coldwarrior
    94 | January 23, 2013 1:09 am

    @ Calo:

    its fun…lafort all ’round!

    :lol:


  95. Moe Katz
    95 | January 23, 2013 1:09 am

    Time for this old hippie to do his mindfulness meditation. Will check back in half an hour.


  96. coldwarrior
    96 | January 23, 2013 1:15 am

    mrs coldwarrior and i are having a ’10 ridge zin and seeing how thin we can slice jowl bacon…cooked on cast iron.

    80mg statin at the ready!


  97. Da_Beerfreak
    97 | January 23, 2013 1:20 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Calo:

    sat lecture laforte fractures.

    Is that related to the Fibonacci Sequence?? :wink:


  98. 98 | January 23, 2013 1:22 am

    One day weekend over, so it’s back on my head today. But the clock is definitely ticking here – only 9 more days until unemployment!


  99. Insert Clever Name Here
    99 | January 23, 2013 1:24 am

    re: search engines

    startpage.com and its sibling ixquick.com seem to be the most private
    duckduckgo.com is easy on the eyes and pretty fast, also fairly private

    goggle has been doing evil for years now and bing is part of Microsoft, the same one who owns MSNBC, you will remember …they have nice photos, though…

    :wq!


  100. Insert Clever Name Here
    100 | January 23, 2013 1:27 am

    Here, let me try this:
    startpage.com
    ixquick.com
    duckduckgo.com

    hope that worked.


  101. Insert Clever Name Here
    101 | January 23, 2013 1:29 am

    Thatdidn’t work, sorry. Should have used Preview!


  102. coldwarrior
    102 | January 23, 2013 1:32 am

    @ Insert Clever Name Here:

    keep trying!

    ;)


  103. coldwarrior
    103 | January 23, 2013 1:34 am

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    nope


  104. AZfederalist
    104 | January 23, 2013 1:35 am

    @ Insert Clever Name Here:

    goggle has been doing evil for years now and bing is part of Microsoft, the same one who owns MSNBC, you will remember …they have nice photos, though…

    Thought MSoft had divested itself of PMSNBC.


  105. Da_Beerfreak
    105 | January 23, 2013 1:37 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    nope

    :grin:


  106. coldwarrior
    106 | January 23, 2013 1:40 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    One day weekend over, so it’s back on my head today. But the clock is definitely ticking here — only 9 more days until unemployment!

    i gotta day off in 10. $$$$$$


  107. AZfederalist
    107 | January 23, 2013 1:41 am

    Well, out for the night. Good night all.


  108. 108 | January 23, 2013 2:07 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I spent a lot of years working 42 day stints straight. It’s tougher to do that now, though. Yesterday was what even some natives told me was a fake holiday. When Morales was inaugurated 6 years ago, he had to follow the lead of his idol Chavez and change the name of the country, and that’s what yesterday “celebrated.” The average Bolivian doesn’t give a crap. The big deal locally is when each town/city celebrates the day they took up the rebellion against the Spanish, so there are a series of highly celebrated holidays across months, varying by location.


  109. coldwarrior
    109 | January 23, 2013 2:09 am

    @ Mike C.:

    kfor.


  110. coldwarrior
    110 | January 23, 2013 2:12 am

    @ Mike C.:

    nov 7 1989 – 25 apr 1989 straight.


  111. 4_Sticks
    111 | January 23, 2013 2:12 am

    @ lobo91:

    Man that was disturbing …


  112. coldwarrior
    112 | January 23, 2013 2:13 am

    @ Mike C.:

    10 years of management at fedex ground no days off from 15 september to 05 january.


  113. 4_Sticks
    113 | January 23, 2013 2:14 am

    @ lobo91:

    “…some sort of mirror universe lately”

    Mirror involves 2 images right ? How ’bout Heaven and Hell ??


  114. coldwarrior
    114 | January 23, 2013 2:19 am

    @ Mike C.:

    you will be happy to know that we just cooked up some hog jowl bacon from your neck of the woods.


  115. 115 | January 23, 2013 2:25 am

    AZfederalist wrote:

    I think google’s motto is “Don’t be evil”

    They have more than one motto. “Don’t be evil” is one of them. Another is “Do no harm” – apparently cribbed from the Hippocratic Oath.

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ Calo:
    You knew that melody was a Russian folk tune? You some kind of Commie?

    Lyrics here (click & scroll down)


  116. 4_Sticks
    116 | January 23, 2013 2:44 am

    @ AZfederalist:

    We can also pray our ‘leaders’ have a change of heart – a moment of clarity that transforms them. It happens. Look at whats her face – Roe v Wade. Years ago I was having a problem with another person and I spout out ‘sometimes I wish (the person) would die”. A wise lady said to me “Why would you pray for that ? Why not pray the person changes their errant ways ?” I’ve looked at life/people and prayed since then with this in mind. One of the side benefits is that I no longer internalize all that venom and negativity …. not to mention, praying for someones demise ? No more needs to be said there.
    Yes, I pray for der leader every night…
    :-)


  117. 117 | January 23, 2013 2:52 am

    This whole crap fest is why I spend good money to self-host out of my living room. Our merry little band of retards produce fiction that is NOT complimentary to Islam thus is 7 years we have suffered 5 DDOS attacks, 9 rootkit attacks, 11 viral attempts and a physical break in attempt!

    The Dobe stopped the last and better software and hardware stopped the rest. The money I spend for security could well be better spent elsewhere but fuck them all before I back down!

    The Muzzies are indeed bent on transforming what we say, do and how we can say it! My bookmark to Gates of Vienna has been updated.


  118. coldwarrior
    118 | January 23, 2013 2:55 am

    @ AZOlddog:

    hey berlin!

    i’m off to bed. cheers!


  119. 119 | January 23, 2013 3:00 am

    CW, are we not facing the wall again?


  120. 120 | January 23, 2013 4:24 am

    Up way too early this morning – not used to having the thread continue after I post on it, so it didn’t even occur to me to check back.


  121. 121 | January 23, 2013 6:00 am

    Damn! 18 degrees this morning; I don’t think it went above 20 yesterday, and there was full sun all day.

    Winter; the bane of my existence. Yeah, I know it’s no doubt far colder elsewhere; places whose very names send chills up my spine. If you’re there, I’ll think of you and be grateful I’m not. Meanwhile, I’ll whine about the frigidity of 18 degrees and think warm thoughts of Spring.


  122. 4_Sticks
    122 | January 23, 2013 10:56 am

    Question to gurus: How could I go to bed at 3am after starting a 10 hour youtube white noise vid, sleep 7 hours, awake to silence and see that the progress bar on the vid has progressed to the end, the time showing it played the full 10 hours ??
    I used this same vid the night before, same circumstances and it was still playing when I woke up … but last night (this morning) this happens. I’m not making some Twilight Zone joke here, I’m serious. An indication that my pc’s internal clock is whacked ? Makes no sense to me and i’m only concerned ’cause if its an indication my mother board or hard drive is about to crap out …
    Anyone ? Thanks.


  123. quiet man
    123 | January 23, 2013 11:36 am

  124. quiet man
    124 | January 23, 2013 11:38 am

    I don’t know how to embed the youtube player


  125. Moe Katz
    125 | January 23, 2013 2:56 pm

    @ Calo:
    @ 1389AD:
    A stirring rendition of the original Russian Gypsy song:
    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXbBrj3uX8M


  126. Moe Katz
    126 | January 23, 2013 3:05 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    Up way too early this morning — not used to having the thread continue after I post on it, so it didn’t even occur to me to check back.

    Posting on a dead thread is a good way to get the last word on the subject.


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