Here’s how it all started:
From facebook.com/Gates.of.Vienna:
Please note: Google has pulled the Gates of Vienna blog. It happened suddenly, around 6-7 hours ago. The Baron is on the case.
I don’t have any further information apart from that, but am sure GoV will be back better than ever before we know it.
Email update from Baron Bodissey:
I apologize for replying to all of you with this mass email, but I have no other way of responding in a timely manner.
Blogger “removed” our blog suddenly last night. One second it was there; the next it was gone. If we had violated their terms of service, we should have received an email, according to their own established procedure. But we received no email.
I retain my “dashboard” account, as does Dymphna. And, as you can see, I still have the gmail account.
There is no “deleted blogs” link on our dashboards, as there should be if the blog had been deleted deliberately through a normal procedure.
For those of you who wrote about your own experiences connected with giving Google your cell phone number: this can’t be an issue, because I gave Google our landline number several years ago, when they would not let me into this gmail account without my giving them a phone number.
Late last night I began the process that one always goes through with Blogger: I posted a request on the help forum. That’s really all that can be done; you can’t talk to human beings where Google is concerned.
Henrik Raeder Clausen is our technical guru. He also posted on the help forum, and has actually received a response, which is unusual with Google. Based on the replies, there seems to have been a major problem with Blogger last night. Many other blogs disappeared in the same fashion.
I anticipate that this is most likely a technical glitch on Google’s part, based on the number and types of blogs that had the same thing happen to them last night. But we should know for certain within another day or two.
It’s also possible (but far less likely, in my estimation) that we were taken down for political reasons. If it was a deliberate take-down, we will migrate to another platform with our own domain name. We back up the entire blog frequently, and the last backup was on Monday. So only a few posts will be missing when we restore.
This is all that we know at present. I’ll send out more emails if I find out anything else. Dymphna will also send out Twitter messages.
Thank you all for your concern and support.
Second email update from Baron Bodissey:
I apologize for replying to all of you again with this mass email, but I have no other way of responding in a timely manner.
Our blog has now been returned to us!
Blogger “removed” our blog suddenly last night. One second it was there; the next it was gone. If we had violated their terms of service, we should have received an email, according to their own established procedure. But we received no email.
Now it has reappeared just as mysterously as it disappeared. No message, no explanation.
I think this was a technical glitch at Google, given how many other blogs were affected, including lots of non-political ones.
We will continue with our “disaster preparedness” policy, with an eye towards a migration to a secure platform that we have complete control over.
Update January 20, 2013: Google Blogger shuts down GoV again
From: Gates of Vienna
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:34 PM
Subject: Another oneSorry to hit everybody en masse, but Blogger has taken us down again.
This one is different:———
Hello,Google has received a Terms of Service complaint regarding malicious
code on your blog. After conducting our review, and in accordance with
Google’s Terms of Service, we have removed the content at issue.Terms of Service: http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
Content Policy: http://www.blogger.com/content.gThe Google Team
———That’s all I know at the moment. We are backed up, so we are OK for a
new start somewhere else.Baron Bodissey
Thank you all for your concern and support.
Update January 21, 2013: GoV has MOVED
From: Gates of Vienna
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:32 PM
Subject: Gates of Vienna has movedGates of Vienna has moved. Our new location is:
Previous content is in the process of migrating to the new site. Most is already in place.
I owe a big debt of gratitude to Henrik Ræder Clausen, Vlad Tepes, and KGS for their help setting up the new site and tutoring me in the nuances of WordPress.
We will shortly have the archives and the comments, but the new template hasn’t really been established — just the bare minimum to get us up and running. The rest of the process will take a while.
The old site at blogspot will not redirect to the new site, because Google has locked the blog. We have filed a request for a review of our status, but there’s no telling whether that will work — Google has not communicated with us except for the initial notice, which was:
Hello,
Google has received a Terms of Service complaint regarding malicious code on your blog. After conducting our review, and in accordance with Google’s Terms of Service, we have removed the content at issue.
Terms of Service: http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
Content Policy: http://www.blogger.com/content.gThe Google Team
In the meantime, if everyone could change their links to us on their sites, as well as their bookmarks, that will help the search engines find the new URL and give us back some of our ranking.
If I have any other important news about all this, I’ll send out another mass email. Otherwise, check in at the new URL for information on the situation.
Thank you all for your interest and support.
Baron Bodissey
Also see:
- Do ONLY Harm: Google’s True Motto
- The Jihad against Jihad Watch
- Is a content-filtering service blacklisting your website?
- UPDATE: 1389 Blog no longer blacklisted by Websense. Thanks very much!
Tags: Blogger, Gates of Vienna, Google, tech industry
Perhaps the Corpulent One of Culver City might have had something to do with this?
not hip to any of this stuff…I’m into hot rods and guitars
@ Macker
Hard to tell. Google is one of the most opaque organizations out there. Being able to contact a human being is a foreign concept to those cats.
Macker wrote:
Who’s next? Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugged? If they are on Google servers they should migrate now.
Macker wrote:
I don’t give him that stature, as they said many blogs went down. I do however question the timing, hmmm?
song_and_dance_man wrote:
They’re not. Jihad Watch was hit with a DDoS attack, which is a hacker attack.
And neither is 1389 Blog.
CzechRebel: “Do ONLY Harm: Google’s True Motto”
1389AD wrote:
and speaking of commies on the interwebs, also last night http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/22/us-cuba-internet-idUSBRE90L13020130122
my pot boy tells me I have a once in a lifetime chance to buy ‘chocolate bar’ hash…I’m curious
heysoos wrote:
To me, THIS is hash.
It goes with mustard-style barbecue sauce.
google has done nothing wrong. when something is free, be it facebook or a blog on google YOU are the product. you are the data mine, you are the $$$ generator.
if it is free you are the product to be terminated at the company’s whim.
sorry. that is how it is.
@ coldwarrior:
we pay quite a bit to keep this little shop open. we pay so we dont have to worry about being shut down. we were, once, for an hour. then we, the client with the checkbook called and hey, presto, back on line.
heysoos wrote:
if that is what i think it is…oh my.
heysoos wrote:
I sued to sell hash oil. It came in many colors and as a selling point I would name them. Blond, Purple Haze, Honey Oil, Red Dragon, Brown Out. I quit smoking in the 80′s but I haven’t heard of it since the late 70′s.
coldwarrior wrote:
I’m not saying it’s illegal.
I am saying it’s morally wrong. Huge difference.
Especially since Google’s YouTube constantly hosts jihadi recruitment videos, while frequently taking down counterjihad videos. They also lie. In this case, they lied about malware being on the GoV blog.
I’m also saying that no serious blogger should host with Google Blogger. It’s good for the online equivalent of doodling, and nothing more.
coldwarrior wrote:
We do too. We use GoDaddy as the hosting provider and we use open-source WordPress software.
As I said, Gates of Vienna has already moved. You might want to update your sidebar blogroll.
coldwarrior wrote:
Legally no, but if they were behind it for political reasons, ethically yes,
@ AZfederalist:
Well, next to the Obama administration.
Of course, unlike them, Google never claimed to be transparent.
@ 1389AD:
@ song_and_dance_man:
sorry, we are going to disagree there.
google can do what it likes with its products. even if YOU are the product. read the user agreement.
and oh, youtube hosts some serious and violent pro-serb vids and serious killem’ all muslims vids too.
coldwarrior wrote:
it is… lots is coming out of California these days. Since the hash is made from the sap or resin it goes unaccounted for. The actual plants can be counted and weighed but where the sap goes nobody knows…
@ brookly red:
ohhhhhhboy.
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes we are. I think my point was valid as was yours, insofar as they can do what they want with ‘product’. But it ends there.
I have the right to toss my son out of the house now that he’s an adult just because I have the right to. But that alone doesn’t justify that it is the right thing to do if I perceived that he may not agree with my political positions.
Roe vs Wade story. Short.
Here is a similiar example of do no evil google support.
google is probably a bad place to host a blog you want to rely on. And the bing search engine now is just as good as google.com
@ song_and_dance_man:
a company’s management may decide to do what it likes with its product. they make decisions, the market reacts. i will not begrudge them for making a decision based on their parameters. i can disagree with them and then decide what is my action. i dont like boycotts, they are stupid. i prefer buycotts. is there an alternative to google we can use? if there is not, why not? is there a hole in the market that needs to be filled?
it is irrelevant from where they draw the decision. in the end, the market decides what is right.
@ 8 heysoos: Eat less than you smoke. And it takes an hour for the high to occur. I made the mistake of not knowing either of those two items and ended up with some embarrassing consequences.
@ coldwarrior: yahoo.com is lefty populated. Bing.com is at least run by a capitalistic company.
pure, raw Texas blues
@ darkwords:
I’m an expert at getting high…thanks tho
lobo91 wrote:
I think the Chair admin is transparent, because I can see right through them.
The problem is that over 50% of the voting block is either politically blind, get their info from the MSM, ignorant, stupid, racist, apathetic or see clearly and want America globally leveled to where other Socialist leaning nations are headed.
darkwords wrote:
gospel.
@ 10 coldwarrior: There is a hiddden economic good. Your eyeballs and what information you let google collect about them. Is the free search results adequate compensation for the aggregate loss of privacy and the brick wall you hit when you complain.
Some legislator should write tight privacy laws for individual, get them passed, and then sue the information monopolies whereever they occur. Gatesofvienna should be advocating that as a constant headline. And keyword their google problems on posts. Other people with similiar problems will then find them and learn from their experience.
darkwords wrote:
bing is microsoft…that same microsoft that was obama’s big corporate supporter so they would get the $$$ govt contract. that is a business decision as well. i dont begrudge them the payolla in this current environment because the sheep will never figure it out.
coldwarrior wrote:
Now that is something I can agree with. If they felt pressure from outside entities that had something to do with their bottom line to purge unsavory(to them) elements they host, then I can see that on a business level.
@ darkwords:
lotsa should and no action. google is obviously filling a void in the ‘use me as a product’ market. market forces can also take it down.
Modern society has grown many totalitarian BIG INFO companies. In search of their BIG INFO goals they leverage away the freedoms of the small powerless individual. The United States of America has a history of leveling that type of playing field.
In a start up mode Microsoft needed to leverage the competition. As did Facebook. As did Google. but at a certain point the market gets altered and closed. Google still does some pretty cool things but it might be good to legislate some privacy rules to meet the new information age.
@ darkwords:
@ coldwarrior:
I started use this a few weeks ago
https://startpage.com/
It doesn’t have many of the features yahoo or google has, but it’s less intrusive.
@ 34 coldwarrior: Except that the privacy value is a hidden good that could be recognized by legislatures. Google could still function as is but would need to work with information differently.
@ song_and_dance_man:
change ‘unsavory to them’ to ‘unneeded product’ and we are at agreement.
jeeze! these cfl bulbs are impossible to work with. i am trying to stain and seal some baseboards i made and i cant see shit.
then i walk em into the halogen lamp lit bar and see all the errors.
grrrr…..this wouldn’t happen under incandescent lighting.
@ 36 song_and_dance_man: Set that one as my default and removed google.com will test it out. Free Market at work.
@ coldwarrior:
I have no idea why google was messing with GoV, but if it is as suspected then we will once again have to disagree.
Cool, I strung 4 two letter words in a row. That may be a first.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
in the end, the corporation must do ONE thing.
make money for the stockholders. that is their only moral imperative.
darkwords wrote:
and there ya are!
song_and_dance_man wrote:
I strongly suspect that the Google Blogger admin team has been infiltrated by leftist/pro-jihadi types who mess up people’s blogs on purpose and then pass it all off as a technical glitch.
That’s what they get for hiring h-1b’s, all too many of whom are Muslims.
@ 42 coldwarrior: In a healthy economy markets are still structured by a government to frame the morals of buyers and sellers. Better customer service could be required of Google.
coldwarrior wrote:
Change moral to profiteering and we are close.
@ coldwarrior:
Bing.
coldwarrior wrote:
What the management does (in the case of west coast tech firms, it’s contributing to/shilling for Demonrats) is one thing; what the rank-and-file employees surreptitiously do (some of whom are Muslim moles who hack into things) is another. In either case, they may be pursuing agendas that are not in the interests of the stockholders.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
the corporation exists for ONE reason only.
@ 44 1389AD: Google has an automated reporting system like Twitter. You can get canned by organized trolling of your site. And google as recently as last year had community managers on board working for free but allowed to flag blogs for various reasons. Google can be manipulated by a few lefty individual working in their support area. It can disrupt a blog and make it hard to recover.
@ 49 coldwarrior: But the government trumps the corporation when we get to one things.
coldwarrior wrote:
Yeah and the Chair admin exists to uphold the Constitution.
Vaccine policies would be one area where governments affect corporations for better or worse.
Rodan wrote:
Bing sucks.
some nice background muzak while you guys do your thing…
Just because not directed at anyone.
I think google’s motto is “Don’t be evil”
anyway, I still think it was lousy that google did a pathetic thing where right is concerned. Yeah, they have a right to do what they want with the content they provide, but it still doesn’t make it right for those of us who rely on institutions like them to be fair.
@ coldwarrior:
No curly bulbs allowed in this house.
/galt
All the cool people are over at DoD.
@ 57 AZfederalist: That seems like the Devil MO doesn’t it?
darkwords wrote:
no I’m not…you’re confused
darkwords wrote:
Well I guess I better sign off since I’m warm.
@ coldwarrior:
Have you tried a different temperature of CFL?
@ 64 lobo91: One would think there would be a market now for home made glass blown light bulbs. ones that last 25 years.
Heh
@ 66 lobo91: Frac he says.
Wow. I don’t care where you stand on the issue of abortion, this has to be the single sickest video I’ve seen in recent memory:
@ lobo91:
Posted this on another blog re this horrible video:
May God have mercy on our country. This callous attitude toward life is evidence of a decadent civilization. The split in the country may be needed to split those who love life from those who despise it.
@ AZfederalist:
I’m really starting to feel like I’m living in some sort of mirror universe lately. Between that garbage, that idiotic “first time” video, the DNC delegates screaming to remove all references to God from their platform…
@ lobo91:
Disheartening, isn’t it? How can we ask The Lord to bless our country and endeavors when these are the kind of people leading it? The same people,celebrating forty years of killing babies,in the womb or leaving those who survive to die in a closet are the same ones who want to take away our ability to defend ourselves from those who would do us harm.
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Bing is my favorite singer.
@ AZfederalist:
About all we can do is ask for His help in taking it back.
Moe Katz wrote:
frank
A little too graphic for me. But someone sent me a link of free graphic novels online by Kyle Baker.
@ 70 lobo91:Some large church is going to have to sue the government to back off.
@ lobo91:
Yep. I am coming to the conclusion that we should be saying, “What we can be doing, is asking for His help”. When we say “All we can do “, it seems to relegate prayer to a last resort, less effective action than others. In reality, we need to see this as our first resort and effective action. The answer we get may not be our will, but we know whatever happens will be in accordance with His will.
/Not busting on what you said, just sharing a thought that has hit me over the pst several months.
@ coldwarrior:
Bing and Frank together
I use duckduckgo.com, they are big on privacy(supposedly}
It works.
@ Moe Katz:
nice.
@ Moe Katz:
@ coldwarrior:
What, is this old school night tonight?
@ coldwarrior:
Getting into prewar Sinatra these days. This is from 1939, with Dorsey’s orchestra. Such a voice before he screwed it up with booze and cigarettes!
@ Moe Katz:
sinatra and booze and smokes.
i choose that.
@ Calo:
You knew that melody was a Russian folk tune? You some kind of Commie?
@ Moe Katz:
I am from Kommiefornia originally.
Calo wrote:
That’s why you can tolerate me.
@ Calo:
sat lecture laforte fractures.
@ Moe Katz:
Worse yet, I went to San Francisco State University.
I can tolerate just about anyone.
@ Calo:
Funny
Speaking of which, I thought I’d made a male friend, a visiting prof. Turns out he was after my poor old body. Now I know how you gals feel.
@ coldwarrior:
May the lafortes be with you.
Moe Katz wrote:
and also with you
@ coldwarrior:
Blech, neuro stuff always scared me.
I gotta work Saturday and then go work again at the kid’s swim meet, but I’ll check it out.
You know I always enjoy Grand Rounds.
@ Calo:
its fun…lafort all ’round!
Time for this old hippie to do his mindfulness meditation. Will check back in half an hour.
mrs coldwarrior and i are having a ’10 ridge zin and seeing how thin we can slice jowl bacon…cooked on cast iron.
80mg statin at the ready!
coldwarrior wrote:
Is that related to the Fibonacci Sequence??
One day weekend over, so it’s back on my head today. But the clock is definitely ticking here -- only 9 more days until unemployment!
re: search engines
startpage.com and its sibling ixquick.com seem to be the most private
duckduckgo.com is easy on the eyes and pretty fast, also fairly private
goggle has been doing evil for years now and bing is part of Microsoft, the same one who owns MSNBC, you will remember …they have nice photos, though…
:wq!
Here, let me try this:
startpage.com
ixquick.com
duckduckgo.com
hope that worked.
Thatdidn’t work, sorry. Should have used Preview!
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
keep trying!
@ Da_Beerfreak:
nope
@ Insert Clever Name Here:
Thought MSoft had divested itself of PMSNBC.
coldwarrior wrote:
Mike C. wrote:
i gotta day off in 10. $$$$$$
Well, out for the night. Good night all.
@ coldwarrior:
I spent a lot of years working 42 day stints straight. It’s tougher to do that now, though. Yesterday was what even some natives told me was a fake holiday. When Morales was inaugurated 6 years ago, he had to follow the lead of his idol Chavez and change the name of the country, and that’s what yesterday “celebrated.” The average Bolivian doesn’t give a crap. The big deal locally is when each town/city celebrates the day they took up the rebellion against the Spanish, so there are a series of highly celebrated holidays across months, varying by location.
@ Mike C.:
kfor.
@ Mike C.:
nov 7 1989 -- 25 apr 1989 straight.
@ lobo91:
Man that was disturbing …
@ Mike C.:
10 years of management at fedex ground no days off from 15 september to 05 january.
@ lobo91:
“…some sort of mirror universe lately”
Mirror involves 2 images right ? How ’bout Heaven and Hell ??
@ Mike C.:
you will be happy to know that we just cooked up some hog jowl bacon from your neck of the woods.
AZfederalist wrote:
They have more than one motto. “Don’t be evil” is one of them. Another is “Do no harm” -- apparently cribbed from the Hippocratic Oath.
Moe Katz wrote:
Lyrics here (click & scroll down)
@ AZfederalist:
We can also pray our ‘leaders’ have a change of heart -- a moment of clarity that transforms them. It happens. Look at whats her face -- Roe v Wade. Years ago I was having a problem with another person and I spout out ‘sometimes I wish (the person) would die”. A wise lady said to me “Why would you pray for that ? Why not pray the person changes their errant ways ?” I’ve looked at life/people and prayed since then with this in mind. One of the side benefits is that I no longer internalize all that venom and negativity …. not to mention, praying for someones demise ? No more needs to be said there.
Yes, I pray for der leader every night…
This whole crap fest is why I spend good money to self-host out of my living room. Our merry little band of retards produce fiction that is NOT complimentary to Islam thus is 7 years we have suffered 5 DDOS attacks, 9 rootkit attacks, 11 viral attempts and a physical break in attempt!
The Dobe stopped the last and better software and hardware stopped the rest. The money I spend for security could well be better spent elsewhere but fuck them all before I back down!
The Muzzies are indeed bent on transforming what we say, do and how we can say it! My bookmark to Gates of Vienna has been updated.
@ AZOlddog:
hey berlin!
i’m off to bed. cheers!
CW, are we not facing the wall again?
Up way too early this morning -- not used to having the thread continue after I post on it, so it didn’t even occur to me to check back.
Damn! 18 degrees this morning; I don’t think it went above 20 yesterday, and there was full sun all day.
Winter; the bane of my existence. Yeah, I know it’s no doubt far colder elsewhere; places whose very names send chills up my spine. If you’re there, I’ll think of you and be grateful I’m not. Meanwhile, I’ll whine about the frigidity of 18 degrees and think warm thoughts of Spring.
Question to gurus: How could I go to bed at 3am after starting a 10 hour youtube white noise vid, sleep 7 hours, awake to silence and see that the progress bar on the vid has progressed to the end, the time showing it played the full 10 hours ??
I used this same vid the night before, same circumstances and it was still playing when I woke up … but last night (this morning) this happens. I’m not making some Twilight Zone joke here, I’m serious. An indication that my pc’s internal clock is whacked ? Makes no sense to me and i’m only concerned ’cause if its an indication my mother board or hard drive is about to crap out …
Anyone ? Thanks.
I don’t know how to embed the youtube player
@ Calo:
@ 1389AD:
A stirring rendition of the original Russian Gypsy song:
Mike C. wrote:
Posting on a dead thread is a good way to get the last word on the subject.