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Obama v. Fox News; and Chuck Hagel’s buddy Chas Freeman

by Speranza ( 156 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, Israel, Media, Politics at January 29th, 2013 - 2:00 pm

I do recall morons such as Christopher Buckley and political courtiers such as David Brooks waxing so lovingly about Obama “having a first class temperament” or admiring “the crease in his pants leg”.  Obama can match Richard E. Nixon (yes I know it is Milhous) for paranoia and “enemies” as it is not enough to have 95% of the media in your pocket, he must have complete control such as the Kim dynasty in North Korea has.

hat – tip Powerline

by Kirsten Powers

There is no war on terror for the Obama White House, but there is one on Fox News.

In a recent interview with The New Republic, President Obama was back to his grousing about the one television news outlet in America that won’t fall in line and treat him as emperor. Discussing breaking Washington’s partisan gridlock, the president told TNR,”If a Republican member of Congress is not punished on Fox News…for working with a Democrat on a bill of common interest, then you’ll see more of them doing it.”

Alas, the president loves to whine about the media meanies at Fox News. To him, these are not people trying to do their jobs. No, they are out to get him. What other motive could a journalist have in holding a president accountable? Why oh why do Ed Henry and Chris Wallace insist on asking hard questions? Make them stop!

Alas, the president loves to whine about the media meanies at Fox News. To him, these are not people trying to do their jobs. No, they are out to get him.

The president seems more comfortable talking to “real journalists” such as Chris Hughes, who asked the question in the TNR interview that elicited Obama’s reflexive Fox hatred. Hughes is the new owner of TNR and is a former major Obama campaign donor and organizer who was featured on the cover of Fast Company, with the headline, “The Kid Who Made Obama President.” You can’t make this stuff up.

[.......]

Recently, the White House has kept Fox News off of conference calls dealing with the Benghazi attack, despite Fox News being the only outlet that was regularly reporting on it and despite Fox having top notch foreign policy reporters.

They have left Chris Wallace’s “Fox News Sunday” out of a round of interviews that included CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS for not being part of a “legitimate” news network. In October 2009, as part of an Obama administration onslaught against Fox News,White House senior adviser David Axelrod said on ABC’s “This Week” that the Fox News Channel is “not really a news station” and that much of the programming is “not really news.”

Whether you are liberal or conservative, libertarian, moderate or politically agnostic, everyone should be concerned when leaders of our government believe they can intentionally try to delegitimize a news organization they don’t like.

In fact, if you are a liberal – as I am – you should be the most offended, as liberalism is founded on the idea of cherishing dissent and an inviolable right to freedom of expression.

That more liberals aren’t calling out the White House for this outrageous behavior tells you something about the state of liberalism in America today.

Sure, everyone understands how some of Fox’s opinion programming would get under President Obama’s skin, the same way MSNBC from 4pm until closing time is not the favorite stop for Republicans.  [......]

During the initial launch of the war on Fox News in October 2009, then-White House Communications Director Anita Dunn told the New York Times of Fox News, “[W]e don’t need to pretend that this is the way that legitimate news organizations behave.” On CNN, she declared that Fox was a “wing of the Republican Party.” Then: “let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”

Gosh, this sounds so familiar. In fact, it’s exactly the line that Media Matters used in a 2010 memo to donors: “Fox News is not a news organization. It is the de facto leader of the GOP, and it is long past time that it is treated as such by the media, elected officials and the public.”

In fact, this is the signature line of Media Matters in discussing Fox News, which they say they exist to destroy. Their CEO, David Brock told Politico in 2011 that their strategy was a “war on Fox” that is executed by 90 staff members and a $10 million yearly budget, gratis liberal donors.

[......] What the Obama administration is doing, and what liberals are funding at MMFA is beyond chilling – it’s a deep freeze.

On the heels of Dunn’s attack on Fox, Brock wrote a letter to progressive organizations bragging about the U.S. government trashing a news organization: “In recent days, a new level of scrutiny has been directed toward Fox News, in no small part due to statements from the White House, and from Media Matters, challenging its standing as a news organization.” Point of order: who put Media Matters in charge of determining what is and isn’t a news operation?

A Media Matters memo found its way into the public domain and if you care at all about decency and freedom of the press, it will make you throw up. If you like McCarthyism, it’s right up your alley. It details to liberal donors how they have plans to assemble opposition research on Fox News employees.

It complains of the “pervasive unwillingness among members of the media to officially kick Fox News to the curb of the press club” and outlines how they are going to change that through targeting elite media figures and turning them against Fox. They say they want to set up a legal fund to sue (harass) conservatives for any “slanderous” comments they make about progressives on air. They actually cite one of the best journalists around, Jake Tapper, as a problem because he questioned the White House about calling a news outlet “illegitimate.” Tapper can see the obvious: if the White House can call one news outlet illegitimate for asking tough questions, then guess who is next? Anyone.

We defend freedom of the press because of the principle, not because we like everything the press does. For example, I defend MSNBC’s right to run liberal programming to their hearts content.

Monitoring the media is actually a good thing; the media should be held accountable, including Fox News. When MMFA began I was supportive of their endeavor and even used some of their research. They seemed a counterbalance to conservative media monitoring organizations.

But now the mask is off. They make no bones about their intentions, and it’s not a fair media. It is clear now that the idea of freedom of the press actually offends Media Matters. In their memo, they complain about “an expansive view of legal precedent protecting the freedom of the press, and the progressive movement’s own commitment to the First Amendment” as an impediment to be overcome or changed. They say they are “consider[ing] pushing prominent progressives to stop appearing on Fox News.” For those who defy the order, they threaten to start daily publishing the names of Democrats who appear in order to shame them. If that doesn’t work, presumably they will just shave our heads and march us down Constitution Avenue.

When Anita Dunn was informing America – as a senior government official – which news organizations were “legitimate,” she conveniently deemed CNN, which rarely challenges the White House, as a “real” network. Presumably she believes MSNBC is “legitimate” also, despite their undisguised disgust of the GOP and hagiography of the president, not to mention more opinion programming than any cable outlet.

I’m going to go out on a limb and assume she thinks CBS is “legitimate” after they just ran what amounted to a 2016 ad for Hillary Clinton on “60 Minutes.” CBS is the same place that has a political director who also writes for one of the most liberal outlets in the country, Slate. Who also just wrote in that publication that the president should “pulverize” the GOP. Imagine a political director at CBS hired away from the Weekly Standard who then wrote an article about “pulverizing” Democrats. I know, I lost you at the part where CBS hired a political director from a conservative outlet.

Last week Rolling Stone editor Michael Hastings – who is a liberal and said recently that “most journalists I know are liberal” – discussed his time covering Obama on the campaign trail. Among the things he witnessed was a reporter trying to interview Obama using a sock puppet.

He told MSNBCs Martin Bashir, “That’s the presence of Obama, even on the press corps, even on the people who follow him every day. When they are near him, they lose their mind sometimes. They start behaving in ways, you know, that are juvenile and amateurish and they swoon.”

Hastings admitted that the presence of Obama made him go gooey too. “Did I ask about drones, did I ask about civil liberties? No, I did not.”

I guess this is what the White House and their friends at Media Matters call the “legitimate” media.

Read the rest -  Obama v. Fox News – behind the White House strategy to delegitimize a news organization
Remember Chas Freeman? Another one of Obama’s choices for an important government position until even Obama could not ignore his  Israel hatred. It seems that Chas Feeeman is the vice chairman of the Atlantic Council  where Chuck Hagel is the Chairman. “Birds of a feather”?
by Jennifer Rubin

As I have noted a couple times, Chuck Hagel has served as chairman for the Atlantic Council. His vice chairman is Chas Freeman. In a speech in Moscow on December, Freeman took to decrying the “fifth column” of disinformation agents in the United States who act on Israel’s behalf. Aside from the fact that Jews in particular have been branded for hundreds and hundreds of years as disloyal to their countries, the speech is a shocking diatribe that builds on the notion that behind any pro-Israel journalism is a “fifth column” of Jews.

A reader asks whether Freeman was actually singling out Jews. Let’s take a look.

Freeman began his speech by using a Hebrew word to describe this purported enterprise. “In the brief time available to me as a panelist, I would like to put forward some thoughts about the control of narrative and the manipulation of information as an essential element of modern warfare. The Israelis call this ‘hasbara.’ Since they are without doubt the most skilled contemporary practitioners of the art, it seems appropriate to use the Hebrew word for it. And, since Israel’s most recent war (against the Palestinians in Gaza) sputtered to an end just ten days ago, I’ll cite a few examples from that war to illustrate my main points.”  [......]

He asserted these people are traitors to America: “In some countries, like the United States, Israel can rely upon a ‘fifth column’ of activist sympathizers to amplify its messages, to rebut and discredit statements that contradict its arguments, facts, and fabrications, and to impugn the moral standing of those who make such statements.” Each and every one of these fifth columnists, wouldn’t you know it, is Jewish.

He called out a Jewish organization: “[T]he Jewish Agency for Israel has sponsored an online ‘Hasbara Handbook’ for students around the world to use as advocates of Israel and its policies.”  And then he cited another Jewish cabal: “The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America – an organization notorious for the viciousness of its efforts to blacken the reputations of those who criticize Israel or advance accounts of events that deviate from the official Israeli narrative by branding them as ‘anti-Semitic’ or ‘self-hating Jews.’  [.......]

He was not done. Next come the rabbis: “In addition, many American rabbis see it as their duty to rally their congregations to Israel’s defense. One typical example was a rabbi who, as the Gaza fighting began, stressed to his New York congregants that ‘making yourself well informed and able to articulate Israel’s case clearly and compellingly is … important. … No slanted print media article or editorial or electronic report that is … unbalanced and unfair can be allowed to go unchallenged. …  [.........]  All of these are our challenge. Get informed, stay informed, and let your voice be heard.’ ”

No mention was made of the thousands of Christian churches or the largest pro-Zionist organization in America, Christians United For Israel, all of which strongly support the Jewish State and work to combat media bias against Israel.  (And Freeman never actually looked at whether the media is actually anti-Israel; he simply assumed it is accurate and everything to the contrary is propaganda.)

The rest of Freeman’s twisted version of Middle East events I leave to others. But can there be any doubt that this is a smear on Jewish Americans in particular? [........] (Someone should ask Hagel at the hearing what he thinks.)

And more to the point, what is Hagel and his organization doing with someone on their board who spews this verbiage? Hagel should be asked about these words, his relationship with Freeman and why, for goodness sake, he would agree to serve with him.

Read the rest – Chuck Hagel’s colleague; So many Jews, so much disloyalty

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156 Responses to “Obama v. Fox News; and Chuck Hagel’s buddy Chas Freeman”
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  1. taxfreekiller
    1 | January 29, 2013 2:11 pm

    Bill O’riley let Obama slip past him, gave him a back rub.

    McCain, Fox, Romney, the Bush’s not any of them have the guts (or the two party evil cult thing) to call Obama out for his crimes.

    So, just like with “immigration reform” show me the fence up and running for 4 to 6 years.

    Re: Fox, lets see O’riley, etal take on the real deal of how commie the Democrats are in fact, take on this CO2 fraud as the lie/fraud it is.

    Other wise they are just half ass enablers too.


  2. taxfreekiller
    2 | January 29, 2013 2:13 pm

    Too, Obama served with William Ayers so whats the big deal with Hagle’s thugs.

    sarc x 1000


  3. 3 | January 29, 2013 2:18 pm

    The GOPe adding and abetting the Marxist Take-over of America. Thank you John McCain and Marco Rubio.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.


  4. 4 | January 29, 2013 2:18 pm

    Obama does not want any opposition. He would like to be a typical 3rd World leader.


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | January 29, 2013 2:19 pm

    bwahahahahaaaa!!!!

    o/t just heard on fox news!

    rham is going to move all of the city of chicago retirees onto the obamacare roles and ditch their retirement healthcare!!!!

    :lol:


  6. RIX
    6 | January 29, 2013 2:20 pm

    The Obama war on Fox News is just Cook County thuggery.
    Illinois is a mess with the same credit rating as Botswna & now
    they are screwing up the country too.


  7. 7 | January 29, 2013 2:21 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    That’s what they voted rfor!


  8. 8 | January 29, 2013 2:21 pm

    RIX wrote:

    The Obama war on Fox News is just Cook County thuggery.
    Illinois is a mess with the same credit rating as Botswna & now
    they are screwing up the country too.

    It’s 3rd World Liberation.


  9. 9 | January 29, 2013 2:23 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    bwahahahahaaaa!!!!
    o/t just heard on fox news!
    rham is going to move all of the city of chicago retirees onto the obamacare roles and ditch their retirement healthcare!!!!

    I can’t wait to taste the sweet sweet nectar of their tears… :twisted:


  10. AZfederalist
    10 | January 29, 2013 2:28 pm

    This bunch demonstrates their desire for Marxism and total control every day. Not satisfied with having all media outlets but one, they want all the news outlets. I remember a couple or three previous regimes in history who demanded complete fealty of the media. Things didn’t work out so well.


  11. RIX
    11 | January 29, 2013 2:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    The Obama war on Fox News is just Cook County thuggery.
    Illinois is a mess with the same credit rating as Botswna & now
    they are screwing up the country too.

    It’s 3rd World Liberation.

    Yeah, “Dreams FROM my father”
    Obama is down with the struggle that he never expeienced.


  12. unclassifiable
    12 | January 29, 2013 2:33 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    I am going to take a WAG that some of those retirees smoke and/or are overweight.

    Oh man this would be good except it will eventually happen to me also (probably over being overweight with the dreaded assault weapons).


  13. 13 | January 29, 2013 2:40 pm

    Chuck Hagel is an anti-Semite. That is one of the things he has in common with Obama.


  14. citizen_q
    14 | January 29, 2013 2:45 pm

    O/T

    Projection

    Al Gore: ‘Our Democracy Has Been Hacked’

    “There are some things I miss about it, yes,” said Gore, in response to a question about whether he misses politics. “And I continue to speak out on issues. But one of the themes of this book, Matt, is that our democracy has been hacked. That’s a computer term, of course, that implies control of the way our political system works has been taken over. In this case, by big money, corporations designated as persons, anonymous donors. And big money is having a corrupting influence and it is degrading the quality of our democracy.”


  15. The Osprey
    15 | January 29, 2013 2:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama does not want any opposition. He would like to be a typical 3rd World leader.

    Mugabe Lite™
    Same Socialist Taste, Less Filling™


  16. The Osprey
    16 | January 29, 2013 2:46 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    I am going to take a WAG that some of those retirees smoke and/or are overweight.

    Deep dish Chicago pizza will do that to ya.


  17. Speranza
    17 | January 29, 2013 2:46 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama does not want any opposition. He would like to be a typical 3rd World leader.

    He finds the concept of “opposition” to be offensive.


  18. Speranza
    18 | January 29, 2013 2:46 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Chuck Hagel is an anti-Semite. That is one of the things he has in common with Obama.

    He also hates the military which he served in.


  19. Speranza
    19 | January 29, 2013 2:47 pm

    I respect Kirsten Powers. She is a liberal whom you can reason with. Nice to look at too.


  20. Speranza
    20 | January 29, 2013 2:48 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    This bunch demonstrates their desire for Marxism and total control every day. Not satisfied with having all media outlets but one, they want all the news outlets.

    They aim for Kim Jong-Il type of worship.


  21. Speranza
    21 | January 29, 2013 2:49 pm

    This Chas Freeman fellow sounds like a moronic, nasty piece of work.


  22. Mars
    22 | January 29, 2013 2:49 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    O/T
    Projection
    Al Gore: ‘Our Democracy Has Been Hacked’

    “There are some things I miss about it, yes,” said Gore, in response to a question about whether he misses politics. “And I continue to speak out on issues. But one of the themes of this book, Matt, is that our democracy has been hacked. That’s a computer term, of course, that implies control of the way our political system works has been taken over. In this case, by big money, corporations designated as persons, anonymous donors. And big money is having a corrupting influence and it is degrading the quality of our democracy.”

    Since his party is in control of almost everything it makes you wonder what he actually means here.


  23. 23 | January 29, 2013 2:51 pm

    @ RIX:

    Obama is a Hipster and is living a struggle he never went through.


  24. 24 | January 29, 2013 2:51 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I respect Kirsten Powers. She is a liberal whom you can reason with. Nice to look at too.

    She said the 60 minutes interview with Obama and Clinton reminded her of Soviet style state media.


  25. 25 | January 29, 2013 2:52 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Mugabe Lite™
    Same Socialist Taste, Less Filling™

    Yup, You trademarked it!


  26. Speranza
    26 | January 29, 2013 2:53 pm

    If all liberals were as rational and open minded as Kirsten Powers, the media would be much more trustworthy.


  27. Speranza
    27 | January 29, 2013 2:54 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    I respect Kirsten Powers. She is a liberal whom you can reason with. Nice to look at too.

    She said the 60 minutes interview with Obama and Clinton reminded her of Soviet style state media.

    Yeah they gave him and Hillary a real media style “Lewinsky”.


  28. 28 | January 29, 2013 2:58 pm

    @ Speranza:

    This actually is very scary. I knew the media was biased, but I have never seen it like this.


  29. The Osprey
    29 | January 29, 2013 3:00 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    AZfederalist wrote:
    This bunch demonstrates their desire for Marxism and total control every day. Not satisfied with having all media outlets but one, they want all the news outlets.
    They aim for Kim Jong-Il type of worship.

    Sing for Dear Leader!


  30. Mars
    30 | January 29, 2013 3:00 pm

    There is no doubt that they have gone way over the edge for Obama. But, the scariest part of the whole press mess is the way they are now rewriting history in real time.


  31. darkwords
    31 | January 29, 2013 3:01 pm

    have to attack the underlings. Til the buck finally arrives at his desk. The GoP should scour Obama hires like Obama scours the electorate.


  32. citizen_q
    32 | January 29, 2013 3:02 pm

    @ Mars:
    My take is that they want more of the same and cover for their failures should they be exposed by perpetually playing the victim.

    Komrade zero is in a huff the same way because there are a couple of lone voices that don’t parrot him and sing only his praises.


  33. Mars
    33 | January 29, 2013 3:02 pm

    http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Wama-Ding-Dong-Childrens-Political-Climate-ebook/dp/B008D4WFEO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359489689&sr=8-2&keywords=obama+wama+ding+dong

    The book I posted about yesterday is still free today. Not sure how much longer Amazon will keep it that way.

    It is pretty funny. There are some formatting problems and you can tell a couple of spots he cut some stuff, but it’s worth a quick read.


  34. 34 | January 29, 2013 3:03 pm

    Mars wrote:

    There is no doubt that they have gone way over the edge for Obama. But, the scariest part of the whole press mess is the way they are now rewriting history in real time.

    Just like Joesph Stalin, who as he had is opponents murdered, also had them airbrushed out of photo’s and all record of them deleted from the archives.


  35. Mars
    35 | January 29, 2013 3:04 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Mars:
    My take is that they want more of the same and cover for their failures should they be exposed by perpetually playing the victim.
    Komrade zero is in a huff the same way because there are a couple of lone voices that don’t parrot him and sing only his praises.

    Very true.

    What is interesting is that the press should consider O the enemy. He has completely declared war against any individual reporter that deviates from the script. You would think they would rise up against this campaign of personal destruction.


  36. Mars
    36 | January 29, 2013 3:05 pm

    @ doriangrey:
    Yep, and the computer age makes it so much easier and efficient.


  37. 37 | January 29, 2013 3:06 pm

    @ Rodan:

    No, they seem to get worse every day. The only one who will call them out on it at all is Fox. Hence the Obama Administration’s attempts to Demonize Fox. They want to totally silence their critics. Dissent isn’t only not patriotic anymore, it is downright treason…


  38. RIX
    38 | January 29, 2013 3:10 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Obama has redifined patrotism and stood it on its head.
    Of course any disagreement is racism pure & simple.


  39. citizen_q
    39 | January 29, 2013 3:16 pm

    Mars wrote:

    What is interesting is that the press should consider O the enemy. He has completely declared war against any individual reporter that deviates from the script. You would think they would rise up against this campaign of personal destruction.

    The Japanese have a saying I think is relevant. Something along the lines of, The tall nail gets pounded down.

    And many I suspect have been trained since at least collage to this line of thought. They think they are right, rather that betraying their so-called profession and the first Amendment.


  40. lobo91
    40 | January 29, 2013 3:16 pm

    Ear Leader just finished his amnesty speech in front of the “Si, se puede” caucus out in Vegas (at a reported cost of $1.6 million, BTW). According to him, giving amnesty to the millions of largely uneducated Mexicans who snuck through what he claims is the best border security ever will result in thousands of new Intels and Googles.

    Or something.

    What a crock.


  41. darkwords
    41 | January 29, 2013 3:18 pm

    Interesting football map.


  42. Mars
    42 | January 29, 2013 3:19 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    It is at least something along those lines.


  43. RIX
    43 | January 29, 2013 3:19 pm

    @ lobo91:
    It seems like most of the applause lines included Mexico.


  44. Da_Beerfreak
    44 | January 29, 2013 3:19 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    This bunch demonstrates their desire for Marxism and total control every day. Not satisfied with having all media outlets but one, they want all the news outlets. I remember a couple or three previous regimes in history who demanded complete fealty of the media. Things didn’t work out so well.

    Whatever “They” can not control “They” will attempt to destroy.


  45. darkwords
    45 | January 29, 2013 3:20 pm

    What our side needs is heroes people can identify with and ones that take reasonable stands against the Obama lie machine. MAke it loud.

    conservatives as a whole are just too polite to get their voices heard. No one wants to listen to something that dull in the age of TV.


  46. lobo91
    46 | January 29, 2013 3:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    It seems like most of the applause lines included Mexico.

    Reminded me of the big rallies they had in LA and other cities with thousands of people waving Mexican flags.

    Every time some politician would claim that “there’s no way to find all these millions of people,” I always thought, “You could probably start with the ones at that rally.”


  47. Da_Beerfreak
    47 | January 29, 2013 3:23 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    O/T

    Projection

    Al Gore: ‘Our Democracy Has Been Hacked’

    “There are some things I miss about it, yes,” said Gore, in response to a question about whether he misses politics. “And I continue to speak out on issues. But one of the themes of this book, Matt, is that our democracy has been hacked. That’s a computer term, of course, that implies control of the way our political system works has been taken over. In this case, by big money, corporations designated as persons, anonymous donors. And big money is having a corrupting influence and it is degrading the quality of our democracy.”

    Someone should send this idiot the definition of “Irony”.


  48. Speranza
    48 | January 29, 2013 3:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    This actually is very scary. I knew the media was biased, but I have never seen it like this.

    It is revolting and anti-democratic to its core. Can you imagine them giving W. and Condi Rice a tongue bath like that if they held a joint “interview”? No I did not think so.


  49. 49 | January 29, 2013 3:25 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    No, they seem to get worse every day. The only one who will call them out on it at all is Fox. Hence the Obama Administration’s attempts to Demonize Fox. They want to totally silence their critics. Dissent isn’t only not patriotic anymore, it is downright treason…

    They want a Totalitarian state. I have my issues with FOX, but we should have different voices.


  50. 50 | January 29, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Because people who are illiterate in both Spanish and English start large companies and invent things… :roll:


  51. RIX
    51 | January 29, 2013 3:26 pm

    Reminded me of the big rallies they had in LA and other cities with thousands of people waving Mexican flags.

    Every time some politician would claim that “there’s no way to find all these millions of people,” I always thought, “You could probably start with the ones at that rally.”@ lobo91:

    I remember several years ago when an immigrant rights parade came right
    past our building in Chicago.
    It was pretty open & aggressive.
    I was thinking, what shadows?


  52. RIX
    52 | January 29, 2013 3:29 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Because people who are illiterate in both Spanish and English start large companies and invent things…

    A 10 year old with a lemonade stand has superior economics understanding
    than Obama.


  53. lobo91
    53 | January 29, 2013 3:29 pm

    @ RIX:

    I remember several years ago when an immigrant rights parade came right
    past our building in Chicago.
    It was pretty open & aggressive.
    I was thinking, what shadows?

    Exactly.


  54. lobo91
    54 | January 29, 2013 3:31 pm

    @ RIX:

    A 10 year old with a lemonade stand has superior economics understanding than Obama.

    So does Leia.


  55. RIX
    55 | January 29, 2013 3:32 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    A 10 year old with a lemonade stand has superior economics understanding than Obama.

    So does Leia.

    I have no doubt.


  56. Da_Beerfreak
    56 | January 29, 2013 3:34 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Mars wrote:

    What is interesting is that the press should consider O the enemy. He has completely declared war against any individual reporter that deviates from the script. You would think they would rise up against this campaign of personal destruction.

    The Japanese have a saying I think is relevant. Something along the lines of, The tall nail gets pounded down.

    And many I suspect have been trained since at least collage to this line of thought. They think they are right, rather that betraying their so-called profession and the first Amendment.

    The indoctrination starts in the Public Schools and never stops.

    Speak-up, and you will be shot down every time. The State demands obedience.


  57. 57 | January 29, 2013 3:35 pm

    @ Mars:

    Speaking of… if Eaglesoars is around, they have a page of 40 free nook books today.


  58. 58 | January 29, 2013 3:35 pm

    @ Speranza:

    You are a history buff like I am. This has happened before.


  59. 59 | January 29, 2013 3:36 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    They do not even speak Spanish correctly.


  60. lobo91
    60 | January 29, 2013 3:36 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Because people who are illiterate in both Spanish and English start large companies and invent things…

    I always watch for the way he conflates things in his speeches. In this one, he talked about all these people who came (legally) from other countries (mostly India and China) and started big companies and then implied that the only thing preventing all those Mexicans who snuck in from doing the same thing is “a piece of paper.”

    They did the same thing with the “women in combat” announcement the other day. There’s a difference between someone ending up in a firefight and being assigned to a unit that has as its only mission going out and deliberately looking for the enemy to fight them.


  61. unclassifiable
    61 | January 29, 2013 3:37 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Woodward and Bernstein — I thought this speaking up and investigating stuff was cool?

    Is it not anymore?


  62. lobo91
    62 | January 29, 2013 3:39 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Woodward and Bernstein — I thought this speaking up and investigating stuff was cool?
    Is it not anymore?

    Only during Republican administrations.


  63. unclassifiable
    63 | January 29, 2013 3:39 pm

    @ lobo91:

    It’s like when O says “we just want the rich to give a little more”.

    Thomas Sowell points out that no one is giving anything to the government. They do it because of the threat of jail time, fines, and property seizure.


  64. Mars
    64 | January 29, 2013 3:41 pm

    mskelly wrote:

    @ Mars:
    Speaking of… if Eaglesoars is around, they have a page of 40 free nook books today.

    Yeah I recommend everyone who reads a lot hit Freestufftimes every day. There’s always a bunch of free nook books and even more kindle books.

    (And don’t forget if you have calibre and a couple programs you can always make them compatible with whatever you read digital on.)


  65. lobo91
    65 | January 29, 2013 3:42 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    He always says that he wants them to “pay their fair share,” too.

    Apparently the “fair share” for almost half the country is zero.


  66. Da_Beerfreak
    66 | January 29, 2013 3:42 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Woodward and Bernstein — I thought this speaking up and investigating stuff was cool?

    Is it not anymore?

    W & B were gunning for an Evil Republican President.
    That made it all OK.

    Go against The Party and you will die…


  67. lobo91
    67 | January 29, 2013 3:44 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    W & B were gunning for an Evil Republican President.
    That made it all OK.

    Go against The Party and you will die…

    It wasn’t always like that, though. People forget that it was the NY Times that broke the Whitewater story.


  68. unclassifiable
    68 | January 29, 2013 3:46 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Actually W&B were doing it when the President and his henchmen were considering killing them.

    Remember this is Nixon and friends we are talking about.

    Now, not so much.

    As a side note, maybe I was wrong about BO. He may be morphing into Tricky Dick.


  69. 69 | January 29, 2013 3:47 pm

    @ lobo91:

    It’s different with this guy. They treat him as a living god.


  70. Mars
    70 | January 29, 2013 3:47 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    unclassifiable wrote:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Woodward and Bernstein — I thought this speaking up and investigating stuff was cool?
    Is it not anymore?

    W & B were gunning for an Evil Republican President.
    That made it all OK.
    Go against The Party and you will die…

    Actually Woodward has been pretty good over the last year or so going after O. Still a little softball, but at least he is willing to go after him at all.

    Do a quick google search for woodward goes after Obama.

    You’ll find a bunch of his articles, plus a lot of liberal attacks against him for his “bias”.


  71. Moe Katz
    71 | January 29, 2013 3:49 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Obama is a Hipster and is living a struggle he never went through.

    Rodan, I ask this question sincerely, and not as a challenge: What is a hipster, as you use the term. I remember it as describing beatniks, but that can’t be what you mean by it.


  72. 72 | January 29, 2013 3:50 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That was before the Jason Blair-ization of the NYT. Back when it was a “Paper of Record” instead of a Democrat Party tabloid.


  73. Da_Beerfreak
    73 | January 29, 2013 3:54 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Actually W&B were doing it when the President and his henchmen were considering killing them.

    Remember this is Nixon and friends we are talking about.

    Now, not so much.

    As a side note, maybe I was wrong about BO. He may be morphing into Tricky Dick.

    Unlike BO I did vote for Tricky Dick. :wink:


  74. unclassifiable
    74 | January 29, 2013 3:58 pm

    The biggest crock in all of this is that if you ever want to know what abused illegal immigrants are go to southern Mexico.

    They abuse and beat the hell out of the Central Americans transiting through Mexico to get to the U.S.

    And unlike in the U.S. where, let’s face it, “an illegal is an illegal”, the C. American accents are a dead giveaway in Mexico that they ain’t Mexican.


  75. Da_Beerfreak
    75 | January 29, 2013 3:58 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    unclassifiable wrote:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Woodward and Bernstein — I thought this speaking up and investigating stuff was cool?
    Is it not anymore?

    W & B were gunning for an Evil Republican President.
    That made it all OK.
    Go against The Party and you will die…

    Actually Woodward has been pretty good over the last year or so going after O. Still a little softball, but at least he is willing to go after him at all.

    Do a quick google search for woodward goes after Obama.

    You’ll find a bunch of his articles, plus a lot of liberal attacks against him for his “bias”.

    I see him as an exception to the rule that allows the Liberals to claim they are really “fair and balanced” with their news reports.


  76. lobo91
    76 | January 29, 2013 3:59 pm

    Meanwhile, in another of Obama’s accomplishments:

    Head Of Egypt’s Army Warns Of “Collapse Of The State” From Political Chaos

    Reacting to Egypt’s growing chaos, the head of the army warned on Tuesday of the “collapse of the state” if political forces in the country did not reconcile, reflecting growing impatience with the crisis from Egypt’s most powerful institution.

    “The continuation of the conflict between different political forces and their disagreement on running the affairs of the country may lead to the collapse of the state and threatens the future of the coming generations,” said Gen. Abdul-Fattah al-Sisi, who is also the defense minister, adding that “the attempt to affect the stability of the state institutions is a dangerous matter that harms Egyptian national security.”

    His remarks, quoted on an official Army Facebook page, came as violence in Cairo began to escalate. During clashes between riot police and protesters along the Nile Corniche early on Tuesday, the fighting spilled into one of the city’s luxury hotels, leaving the lobby in ruins

    Hey, I know how we can help! Let’s send them some tanks and fighters!
    //


  77. unclassifiable
    77 | January 29, 2013 4:00 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    What was your alternative? McGovern? Or did you vote for him twice (Not that Humphrey was all that great either)?

    Full disclosure — it was a little before my time. My first vote was for Gerald Ford.


  78. 78 | January 29, 2013 4:01 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    Hipster are a nasty bunch. They tend to be young people who are artistic and believe they can change the world. Anything they deem not hip, must be eliminated.

    Hitler was a Hipster.

    Here was my post on them.

    They are not a laughing matter.


  79. unclassifiable
    79 | January 29, 2013 4:02 pm

    @ lobo91:

    This administration picks new governments like they pick investments…

    …losers. Billions of losers.


  80. Da_Beerfreak
    80 | January 29, 2013 4:02 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Tiananmen Square V. 2.0


  81. RIX
    81 | January 29, 2013 4:03 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Obama seems like a Hipster.
    Actually kind of a Fop.


  82. 82 | January 29, 2013 4:03 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Tiananmen Square V. 2.0

    Muzz on Muzz, let them have at it!


  83. heysoos
    83 | January 29, 2013 4:03 pm

    @ lobo91:
    BO had nothing to say, not one word of support for the Greens in Iran…but on 60 Minutes he congratulated himself for his solid leadership, without which would have had a different outcome…crazy bastard


  84. Mars
    84 | January 29, 2013 4:06 pm

    The Beatniks were a type of hipster. Very marxist in their philosophy.


  85. unclassifiable
    85 | January 29, 2013 4:08 pm

    @ heysoos:

    OOOO it’s a secret. Top secret. Very secret stuff he is working on. Too secret for us. Yep that’s right.

    Let’s move on to the next tounge bath Steve. Don’t forget to get where the sun don’t shine.


  86. RIX
    86 | January 29, 2013 4:09 pm

    BHO is claiming illegalborderv crossings are down 80% from 2000.
    How would he know, do they pass through a turnstyle?
    If itis way down, maybe it is the Obama economy.


  87. 87 | January 29, 2013 4:09 pm

    @ Mars:

    So where the Nazis, Bolshiks and Jacobins, Hipsters are the just latest incarnation of Totalitarian leftists who think they can change the world.


  88. citizen_q
    88 | January 29, 2013 4:09 pm

    @ unclassifiable:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    I have always thought of komrade zero as a tricky dick. /


  89. Da_Beerfreak
    89 | January 29, 2013 4:11 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    What was your alternative? McGovern? Or did you vote for him twice (Not that Humphrey was all that great either)?

    Full disclosure — it was a little before my time. My first vote was for Gerald Ford.

    Only once, my first time was ’72.
    Hard to say what I would have done in ’68.

    Full disclosure — I have lived most of my life in Saint Paul,MN.

    Fun Fact: Minneapolis is Saint Paul’s oldest and dearest suburb. :cool:


  90. citizen_q
    90 | January 29, 2013 4:12 pm

    RIX wrote:

    BHO is claiming illegalborderv crossings are down 80% from 2000.
    How would he know, do they pass through a turnstyle?
    If itis way down, maybe it is the Obama economy.

    I am willing to be that he is basing it on numbers caught. If so the next question would be is how doe border enforcement compare between now and 2000. Also there is the economy to consider, I doubt it is as attractive to leave home for the US now as it once was.


  91. lobo91
    91 | January 29, 2013 4:12 pm

    Sen. Sessions calls for ICE Director Morton’s resignation: ‘No comprehensive immigration reform as long as he’s the person in charge’

    Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions called for the resignation of John Morton, the director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Tuesday on the Senate floor.

    “Mr. Morton can no longer effectively serve at this post, and perhaps more importantly there can be no comprehensive immigration reform as long as he’s the person in charge with enforcing it,” Sessions said, explaining that Morton and the Obama administration have failed to enforce current immigration law.

    “What purpose is served to pass new laws if the ones we have are ignored by the officials charged with enforcing them,” he added.

    According to Sessions and a timeline he submitted to the Congressional Record detailing Morton and the administration’s actions to dilute current law, the current ICE director is unfit to continue at his post.

    “It’s well documented that the Obama administration has either unilaterally weakened or outright waived the enforcement at the border, at the — in the interior and at the work site and at the welfare office of existing immigration laws,” Sessions explained. “That’s just a fact.”


  92. 92 | January 29, 2013 4:15 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Mexico has an unemployment rate of 4.5% and their GDP grew at 4%. Most of Latin America expect for Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and Argentina are booming right now. Colombia is going to be admitted into the OECD now.

    Heck Latin America have an influx in Latin America of illegal Spaniards, Italians and Portuguese.


  93. citizen_q
    93 | January 29, 2013 4:15 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Tiananmen Square V. 2.0

    @ Rodan:
    Couldn’t happen to nicer bunch of bros! mo-bros that is.


  94. RIX
    94 | January 29, 2013 4:16 pm

    I am willing to be that he is basing it on numbers caught. If so the next question would be is how doe border enforcement compare between now and 2000. Also there is the economy to consider, I doubt it is as attractive to leave home for the US now as it once was.@ citizen_q:

    Shocking that Steve Kroft didn’t ask./


  95. unclassifiable
    95 | January 29, 2013 4:16 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Well lookie here.

    Someone apparently found their balls.

    Good stuff.


  96. 96 | January 29, 2013 4:17 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    @ RIX:

    Here is an article on this.


  97. citizen_q
    97 | January 29, 2013 4:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    “What purpose is served to pass new laws if the ones we have are ignored by the officials charged with enforcing them,” he added.

    The same can essentially be said for the current crop of anti-2nd Amendment laws being leveraged out of the Newtown tragedy.


  98. unclassifiable
    98 | January 29, 2013 4:18 pm

    @ Rodan:

    What the hell. We should be going over to Mexico.

    Will Las Zetas let us keep our weapons?


  99. 99 | January 29, 2013 4:19 pm

    Here’s another one.

    Reversal of fortunes sends Spaniards to Latin America


  100. lobo91
    100 | January 29, 2013 4:20 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    “What purpose is served to pass new laws if the ones we have are ignored by the officials charged with enforcing them,” he added.
    The same can essentially be said for the current crop of anti-2nd Amendment laws being leveraged out of the Newtown tragedy.

    And Biden told the NRA that they don’t have time to enforce the gun laws that are already on the books.


  101. 101 | January 29, 2013 4:21 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    What the hell. We should be going over to Mexico.
    Will Las Zetas let us keep our weapons?

    I would not be shocked if this Obama economy continues, that will start occurring.

    See my 96 and 98!

    You never know, bro. Seriously, history is weird. Although most Americans will probably gravitate to Canada. From what I read, Americans are starting to move there.


  102. citizen_q
    103 | January 29, 2013 4:25 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Interesting article. Makes we wonder if we wills start to see large numbers of US citizens look abroad for work. We have such a long strong tradition of the other way around, I would think it almost inconceivable, but I had moved from MD to TX for a job opportunity. Which was a pretty good schlep.


  103. citizen_q
    104 | January 29, 2013 4:29 pm

    @ lobo91:
    If we had a thinking non-biased media, they would be tearing apart this administration just on the blatant conflicts in the statements, and often their actions.

    I also wish more was made about the retired cops, not liking nanny cuomo’s gun law because it puts them in the same boat as us little people, and oh yeah they will be out gunned because criminals won’t follow laws.


  104. unclassifiable
    105 | January 29, 2013 4:30 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Mexico has been a pretty popular US expat retirement spot for a while. Mainly because of the relative inexpensive longterm property leases you can get there and the fact that certain cancer treatments are offered there (and not in the U.S.)and are relatvively inexpensive also. Still there are a few things that you have to give up but that is why there are airlines.

    You have to keep in mind that Mexico’s economic structure is still like Spain in a lot of respects. No foreign ownership of private property.

    I worked in Mexico City for Pemex off and on for 5 years.


  105. 106 | January 29, 2013 4:30 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    He lies.


  106. 107 | January 29, 2013 4:30 pm

    Despite Consumer confidence going down, Wall Street is near 14,000!

    Boom Times!
    ///


  107. Da_Beerfreak
    108 | January 29, 2013 4:32 pm

    And now for something completely different…

    Someone in DC Town that loves a good fight…

    Wayne LaPierre: NRA won’t accept ‘blame’ for criminals

    Wayne LaPierre, CEO of the powerful National Rifle Association, will tell a Senate panel on Wednesday that the federal government should not enact any new gun-control laws.
    “Law-abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranged criminals,” LaPierre is scheduled to tell the Senate Judiciary Committee.
    “Nor do we believe the government should dictate what we can lawfully own and use to protect our families,” he added.

    Now if we could get the GOPee would fight half as hard as this Guy…


  108. 109 | January 29, 2013 4:33 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    yeah what holds Mexico back is the Crime, corruption and not allowing foreigners to own property. If they change that, they would be a powerhouse.

    That said, why can’t we get our own house in order? The fact some skill labor is moving to Canada should scare people.


  109. 110 | January 29, 2013 4:34 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Interesting article. Makes we wonder if we wills start to see large numbers of US citizens look abroad for work. We have such a long strong tradition of the other way around, I would think it almost inconceivable, but I had moved from MD to TX for a job opportunity. Which was a pretty good schlep.

    It actually scares me. If a brain drain begins, then our economic spiral will be worse.


  110. coldwarrior
    111 | January 29, 2013 4:36 pm

    “I’m a big football fan, but I have to tell you, if I had a son, I’d have to think long and hard before I let him play football,” Obama said.

    if he were built like your wife, he’s get a full ride to Alabama or USC


  111. 112 | January 29, 2013 4:36 pm

    It’s great when Ben Bernanke prints money for Wall Street1

    Economic Optimism Growing on Wall Street: CNBC Survey

    “There is a decent chance that the U.S. economy will get up a head of steam sometime in the second half and above trend growth early in 2014,” Bob Baur, Principal Global Investors, wrote in response to the survey. “Headwinds are fading and pent-up demand is surfacing.”


  112. 113 | January 29, 2013 4:37 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Harbaugh responded to that and said that means less competition for his son!


  113. lobo91
    114 | January 29, 2013 4:37 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    You have to keep in mind that Mexico’s economic structure is still like Spain in a lot of respects. No foreign ownership of private property.

    Foreigners can own real estate in Mexico, as long as it’s not within 100 km of the border or 50 km of the coast.


  114. citizen_q
    115 | January 29, 2013 4:38 pm

    mskelly wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    He lies.

    That’s a given.


  115. Da_Beerfreak
    116 | January 29, 2013 4:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ unclassifiable:

    yeah what holds Mexico back is the Crime, corruption and not allowing foreigners to own property. If they change that, they would be a powerhouse.

    That said, why can’t we get our own house in order? The fact some skill labor is moving to Canada should scare people.

    Maybe because Buttcrack Obama sees Crime, Corruption, and not allowing Anyone to own Property as a feature and not a bug. :evil:


  116. lobo91
    117 | January 29, 2013 4:39 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Now if we could get the GOPee would fight half as hard as this Guy…

    Unlike political appointees, Lapierre’s job is merit-based.

    If he doesn’t do a good job for the organization, we’ll fire him.


  117. unclassifiable
    118 | January 29, 2013 4:40 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Was that recent? My gig was about 10 years ago and I was talking to the locals about it.

    Shoot.


  118. unclassifiable
    119 | January 29, 2013 4:41 pm

    OT:

    Uh oh Ray Ray.


  119. lobo91
    121 | January 29, 2013 4:43 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Was that recent? My gig was about 10 years ago and I was talking to the locals about it.
    Shoot.

    It’s in their constitution. Been there for about 100 years.

    It’s a pretty common misconception.


  120. Da_Beerfreak
    122 | January 29, 2013 4:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Now if we could get the GOPee would fight half as hard as this Guy…

    Unlike political appointees, Lapierre’s job is merit-based.

    If he doesn’t do a good job for the organization, we’ll fire him.

    And therein lies the crux of our current dilemma…


  121. 123 | January 29, 2013 4:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Hillary Clinton Compares GOP To Jihadists Who Carried Out Benghazi Attack…
    Nice

    The Crackle returns!


  122. Da_Beerfreak
    124 | January 29, 2013 4:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Hillary Clinton Compares GOP To Jihadists Who Carried Out Benghazi Attack…

    Nice

    Must be part of that “New Tone” that Bush was bringing to DC Town…


  123. lobo91
    125 | January 29, 2013 4:45 pm

    John Kerry was just confirmed by the full Senate, BTW


  124. 126 | January 29, 2013 4:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ unclassifiable:
    You have to keep in mind that Mexico’s economic structure is still like Spain in a lot of respects. No foreign ownership of private property.
    Foreigners can own real estate in Mexico, as long as it’s not within 100 km of the border or 50 km of the coast.

    THat is correct, although I didn’t think the distance from the coast was that great. I know Americans who own property in Mexico.

    And actually, Bolivia is pretty damned stable these days, especially considering that Evo Morales is still the president.


  125. coldwarrior
    127 | January 29, 2013 4:48 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    OT:
    Uh oh Ray Ray.

    BWAHAHAHAAAA!!!!

    a boston paper complaining about cheating in football!

    oh, the irony.


  126. lobo91
    128 | January 29, 2013 4:49 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    THat is correct, although I didn’t think the distance from the coast was that great. I know Americans who own property in Mexico.

    There’s a way around it, anyway. They set up a “real estate trust” (a shell company, basically) that owns the property, and the foreigner owns the trust.


  127. 129 | January 29, 2013 4:49 pm

    Mike C.:

    Could it be because of the natural resources boom?


  128. 130 | January 29, 2013 4:50 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Or be a Spaniard! I know for a fact that Spaniards get special treatment in Mexico.


  129. Da_Beerfreak
    131 | January 29, 2013 4:51 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    John Kerry was just confirmed by the full Senate, BTW

    That should send a very clear message far and wide that Obama’s State Department is ready to kiss some serious ass… :roll:


  130. lobo91
    132 | January 29, 2013 4:52 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    John Kerry was just confirmed by the full Senate, BTW
    That should send a very clear message far and wide that Obama’s State Department is ready to kiss some serious ass…

    And they did it by voice vote, so there’s no record.


  131. Da_Beerfreak
    133 | January 29, 2013 4:54 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Bunch of f’n cowards!!


  132. 134 | January 29, 2013 4:55 pm

    New Thread up at 5 PM.

    See you all!


  133. unclassifiable
    135 | January 29, 2013 4:59 pm

    @ Mike C.:
    @ lobo91:

    Well that chaps my butt a little. But I guess you always have to check what you are told.

    Darnit.


  134. lobo91
    137 | January 29, 2013 5:01 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    @ lobo91:
    Well that chaps my butt a little. But I guess you always have to check what you are told.
    Darnit.

    I doubt that many Americans have read the Mexican constitution. It’s just one of those things that “everyone knows.”

    I actually have read it. When I was attending the Sergeants Major Academy, Mexico was the country I was assigned for my country study.


  135. unclassifiable
    138 | January 29, 2013 5:03 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Hillary Clinton.

    The Courtney Love of diplomacy.


  136. Da_Beerfreak
    139 | January 29, 2013 5:03 pm

    Part of a larger D’Rat plan???

    Obama Admin Approves Sale Of Sensitive Military Technology To China

    A Chinese company will take charge of sensitive military and battery technology following the Treasury Department’s decision on Tuesday to permit the sale of a U.S. company that was bankrolled with tax dollars to the Shanghai-based Wanxiang firm.

    The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) approved the $256 million sale of A123 Systems’ operation, despite warnings from military insiders and lawmakers on Capitol Hill that the sale presents a danger to national security.

    A123 Systems, which went bankrupt despite the Obama administrations’ $249 million in green energy funding to produce advanced lithium ion batteries, controls 91 patents for the sensitive technology.

    “The approved sale marks yet another step in the coordinated strategy by foreign countries to acquire leading U.S. companies who are researching, developing and producing critical technologies,” said Dean Popps, co-chairman of the Strategic Materials Advisory Council. “CFIUS itself has recognized this strategy but continues to fail to do anything to prevent it.” The committee has not made public its rationale for the decision.

    The decision signals a reversal from President Barack Obama’s inaugural day pledge not to “cede to other nations’ critical energy technology,” Popps said.


  137. unclassifiable
    140 | January 29, 2013 5:06 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Actually they were selling copies of it in the Zocalo.

    A small but very thick green leather bound book.

    Kind of reminded me of the Texas constitution as far as the number of amendments/laws.

    Of course if we included the U.S. Code in our constitution it would be incredibly big.


  138. unclassifiable
    141 | January 29, 2013 5:07 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    I’m sorry. I was wrong.


  139. lobo91
    142 | January 29, 2013 5:09 pm

    @ unclassifiable:

    Of course if we included the U.S. Code in our constitution it would be incredibly big.

    Like the EU constitution.


  140. lobo91
    143 | January 29, 2013 5:11 pm

    Egyptian Islamist Groups Call For Murder Of Anti-Government Black Bloc Protesters…

    In case anyone was wondering what they need those new tanks for…


  141. unclassifiable
    144 | January 29, 2013 5:13 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Just a continuation of the Clenis’ technology transfer to China.

    At least they aren’t running the show out of Los Alamos anymore. Guess China got what they needed out of that little snafu.


  142. 145 | January 29, 2013 5:17 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Mike C.:
    Could it be because of the natural resources boom?

    Not certain. Certainly the natural gas activity has recovered, hence me being here. Still not much oil. They’re pretty much self-sufficient here, especially from an agricultural standpoint. When I was here 12+ years ago, it 5.something Bs to the dollar. Now it’s about 6.7 Bs to the dollar. That’s pretty stable.


  143. RIX
    146 | January 29, 2013 5:28 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Here’s another one.

    Reversal of fortunes sends Spaniards to Latin America

    The Euro Zone is not doing well.


  144. Da_Beerfreak
    147 | January 29, 2013 5:36 pm

    @ RIX:
    The places that are not doing will are the places that are being run into the ground by a bunch of third rate lawyers, aka the political class.


  145. lobo91
    148 | January 29, 2013 5:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    The only place doing well is DC and the surrounding areas.


  146. heysoos
    149 | January 29, 2013 5:38 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Boomtown…
    watch it, see how the oligarchy live….on your dime


  147. yenta-fada
    150 | January 29, 2013 5:41 pm

    unclassifiable wrote:

    Hey,
    Just to let you know. Obama is on the ball with the illegal immigration problem in Houston.

    Geez. That’s the “Ahava” brand of cosmetics made from salt in the Dead Sea. Ahava has been the target of anti-Israel boycotts all across Canada.
    Yep. The problem is the Jooooos, once again.


  148. yenta-fada
    151 | January 29, 2013 5:44 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Didn’t Bill Clinton, with Loral Systems, also enable sensitive technology to be sold to the Chinese?


  149. Da_Beerfreak
    152 | January 29, 2013 5:54 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Didn’t Bill Clinton, with Loral Systems, also enable sensitive technology to be sold to the Chinese?

    He sure did. Help that greatly improved the Chicom’s ICBM force.


  150. heysoos
    153 | January 29, 2013 5:59 pm

    I’m beginning to think the presidency is outdated…the potential to wreak widespread havoc is too great…this president needs to be vigorously opposed for every breath he takes, and he is not…let Microsoft run the country


  151. yenta-fada
    154 | January 29, 2013 6:01 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Didn’t Bill Clinton, with Loral Systems, also enable sensitive technology to be sold to the Chinese?
    He sure did. Help that greatly improved the Chicom’s ICBM force.

    Ignored by the media because of Monica. That’s what I thought until I saw what the MSM have done in this administration.


  152. 155 | January 29, 2013 6:50 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Perhaps we should play him a recording of the dulcet tones of Shrillery telling us that we are Americans and we have the right to question our leadership.

    And she’s right -- because I certainly question HERS.


  153. 156 | January 29, 2013 10:10 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Obama does not want any opposition. He would like to be a typical 3rd World leader.

    Mugabe Lite™
    Same Socialist Taste, Less Filling™

    Not lite.

    On steroids.

    Take those debt figures and run ‘em through your calculator.

    You’ll see.

    heysoos wrote:

    I’m beginning to think the presidency is outdated…the potential to wreak widespread havoc is too great…this president needs to be vigorously opposed for every breath he takes, and he is not…let Microsoft run the country

    Too bad we don’t have the medieval Serbian kings.

    All but one were canonized, and deservedly so.

    None built palaces for themselves, but churches, monasteries, and schools for all to use.

    Democracy…the god that failed. Or more properly, the latest version of antichrist.

    unclassifiable wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Hillary Clinton.
    The Courtney Love of diplomacy.

    The chuckie doll of diplomacy.

    Rodan wrote:

    It’s great when Ben Bernanke prints money for Wall Street1
    Economic Optimism Growing on Wall Street: CNBC Survey

    “There is a decent chance that the U.S. economy will get up a head of steam sometime in the second half and above trend growth early in 2014,” Bob Baur, Principal Global Investors, wrote in response to the survey. “Headwinds are fading and pent-up demand is surfacing.”

    Hyperinflation. See above regarding Zimbabwe.

    Rodan wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    Interesting article. Makes we wonder if we wills start to see large numbers of US citizens look abroad for work. We have such a long strong tradition of the other way around, I would think it almost inconceivable, but I had moved from MD to TX for a job opportunity. Which was a pretty good schlep.

    It actually scares me. If a brain drain begins, then our economic spiral will be worse.

    Well, my poor tired tempest-tost brain is draining out sometime this year.

    I told my husband that eternal damnation would be preferable to ratifying Obamunism by my continued presence.


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