Today marks the 80th anniversary of Adolf Hitler being appointed Chancellor of Germany. Contrary to may beliefs, Adolf Hitler never seized power, in fact he was handed power right after the Nazi Party lost 3 million votes in the 1932 elections. Hitler obtained total control over Germany in 1934 when after the death of President Paul von Hindenburg, he combined the office of President and Chancellor into the title of Fuhrer. There are eerie parallels in today’s world between the attempts to pass off Islamofascists such as Mohammad Morsi, Ahmadinejad, Hamas, and Sheik Nasrallah (Hezboallah) leaders as “moderates”, with the way the press whitewashed Hitler.
by Rafael Medoff
“There is at least one official voice in Europe that expresses understanding of the methods and motives of President Roosevelt—the voice of Germany, as represented by Chancellor Adolf Hitler.”
That incredible statement was the opening line of a flattering feature story about the Nazi leader that appeared on the front page of the New York Times in 1933, and was typical of some early press coverage of Hitler, who rose to power 80 years ago on Jan. 30.
Hitler’s ascent caught much of the world by surprise. As late as May 1928, the Nazis had won less than 3 percent of the vote in elections to the Reichstag, Germany’s parliament, and the Nazi party’s candidate for president received barely 1 percent of the votes in March 1929. But as Germany’s economic and social crises worsened, the Nazis garnered 18.3 percent of the vote in the parliamentary election of July 1930. They doubled that total two years later, becoming the largest party in the Reichstag.
Negotiations between the Nazis and other parties then produced a coalition government, with Hitler as chancellor. [.......]
A ‘moderate’ Hitler?
Relatively little was known in America about Hitler, and many leading newspapers predicted that the Nazis would not turn out to be as bad as some feared.
An editorial in the Philadelphia Evening Bulletin on Jan. 30 claimed that “there have been indications of moderation” on Hitler’s part. The editors of the Cleveland Press, on Jan. 31, asserted that the “appointment of Hitler as German chancellor may not be such a threat to world peace as it appears at first blush.”
Officials of the Roosevelt administration were quoted in the press as saying they “had faith that Hitler would act with moderation compared to the extremist agitation [i]n his recent election campaigning… [........].”
A wave of terror
In the weeks following, however, events on the ground contradicted those optimistic forecasts. Outbursts of anti-Jewish violence were tolerated, and often encouraged and assisted, by the Nazi regime.
In early March, for example, the Chicago Tribune published an eyewitness account of “bands of Nazis throughout Germany carr[ying] out wholesale raids to intimidate the opposition, particularly the Jews.” Victims were “hit over the heads with blackjacks, dragged out of their homes in night clothes and otherwise molested,” with many Jews “taken off to jail and put to work in a concentration camp.”
The following month, the New York Evening Post reported that the Nazis had launched “a violent campaign of murderous agitation” against Germany’s Jews: “An indeterminate number of Jews… have been killed. [.......] All of Germany’s 600,000 Jews are in terror.”
The Hitler regime was determined to eliminate the Jewish community from German society. During the Nazis’ first weeks in power, violence and intimidation were used to force Jewish judges, attorneys, journalists, university professors, and orchestra conductors and musicians out of their jobs.
A law passed on April 7 required the dismissal of Jews from all government jobs. [.......] The government even sponsored a one-day nationwide boycott of Jewish businesses, with Nazi storm troopers stationed outside Jewish-owned stores to prevent customers from entering.
Hitler’s ‘sensitive hand’
Nevertheless, in July 1933, nearly six months after Hitler’s rise to power, the New York Times ran a front-page feature about the Fuhrer that presented him in a flattering light. For Hitler, it was a golden opportunity to soften his image by praising President Roosevelt as well as a platform to deliver lengthy justifications of his totalitarian policies and attacks on Jews.
The article, titled “Hitler Seeks Jobs for All Germans,” began with Hitler’s remark that FDR was looking out “for the best interests and welfare of the people of the United States.” He added, “I have sympathy with President Roosevelt because he marches straight toward his objective over Congress, over lobbies, over stubborn bureaucracies.”
The story was based on an interview with the Nazi leader by Times correspondent Anne O’Hare McCormick. She gave Hitler paragraph after paragraph to explain his policies as necessary to address Germany’s unemployment, improve its roads, and promote national unity. The Times correspondent lobbed the Nazi chief softball questions such as “What character in history do you admire most, Caesar, Napoleon, or Frederick the Great?”
McCormick also described Hitler’s appearance and mannerisms in a strongly positive tone: Hitler is “a rather shy and simple man, younger than one expects, more robust, taller… [.........]… Herr Hitler has the sensitive hand of the artist.”
Whatever her intentions, articles like McCormick’s helped dull the American public’s awareness of the dangers of Nazism. The image of a pro-American moderate undermined the chances for mobilizing serious international opposition to Hitler during the early months of his regime.
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The New York Times also soft-peddled Josef Stalin. I really don’t know why that rag was ever considered a “Paper of Record”. Even before Jason Blair there was Walter Duranty.
@ Iron Fist:
They created Fidel Castro also.
Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mussolini, Roosevelt himself, Wilson, Obama.
The press will give soft reporting to anyone they think is within their belief pattern.
Then they act surprised when the person reveals their totalitarian tendencies.
Obama Regime blames Republicans for economic contraction.
This is especially hilarious considering the talking points they were sent yesterday told them to call the talk shows and declare the biggest GDP jump in several months.
One after another was calling the shows talking about how the Obama economy was working and the report was going to show a huge jump.
Rodan wrote:
Obama Regime blames Republicans for flat beer too…
@ Mars:
Instead it was a flop!
@ Da_Beerfreak:
I saw some people at a Lefty blog blaming Bush.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Real conservatives don’t let beer get flat or warm, either. Although they will drink it that way if there’s nothing else.
@ Mike C.:
Warm beer is the Breakfast of Champions®…
Rodan wrote:
And the sad part is, all those libs who got their marching orders yesterday will not bother to question why they were told one thing but another happened. It will never occur to them that they were lied to for convenience.
@ Iron Fist:
Just check for cigarette butts first…
@ 8 Rodan: Which Bush or do they go back to a “Burning Bush” as the cause of all of humanity’s problems?
@ Mars:
Obama didn’t lie to them! The economy is marching in a retrograde fashion. This isn’t the same as a retreat…
@ Mars:
The Outsider was on this morning saying the contraction is no big deal. Another Leftist said this is the best contraction ever. Another Lefty loon said under Bush the economy contracted 3% and under Obama only .01%!
It’s important to label Obama and his supporters as “hysterical”. And polarize them as individuals. And not let up. That is the lever to change the country for the better. Make people think they don’t want to be perceived as “hysterical”. anytime they complain call them “hysterical”. When Obama uses the word now. Ask him “why? Really why? You can’t use the time honored process? Are you hysterical Obama in your rush to judge everything and avoid inspection?”
@ Rodan: Leftst practice value added economics. and if they have spent all their lives deceiving their economics reflects their thoughts.
@ Rodan:
Obama’s Recession isn’t as big as Bush’s? But Bush hadn’t just pumped four trillion dollars into the economy to pump up the economy (not counting all the money Bernanke has printed). You’d think Obama would have gotten something for four trillion dollars. Like a new Navy…
another $100b down the tubes and it’s just the tip of the iceberg…
that’s a lot of vodka and gatoraid
@ heysoos:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/incalculable-waste-in-u.s.-paid-100-billion-afghan-fund/article/2520045
@ darkwords:
@ Iron Fist:
@ Mars:
The economy can contract, Unemployment can skyrocket and income continue to decline. It will nopt matter. The American public loves Obama.
darkwords wrote:
They will make excuses for a recession and get away with it.
@ Iron Fist:
The people love Obama.
@ Rodan:
Rasmussen still has him at a negative six, though he says 53% of the people at least somewhat approve of Obama’s performance. I question that polls’ accuracy. It is in the Washington Post, after all, which isn’t really any better than the New York Times. It is an organ of Democrat Propaganda, not a news source.
Rodan wrote:
Rewriting history isn’t enough anymore. Reality has to be rewritten to support the Pharaoh.
darkwords wrote:
Hmm, Isolate, Ridicule, minimize, label.
Where have I heard that before?
However, I’m one of those that thinks we can use this without becoming what we fight.
Iron Fist wrote:
The New York Times never met a tyrant it did not heartily approve of.
The attempt to soft pedal Islamic extremists has eerie parallels from 80 years ago.
Rodan wrote:
Herbert Matthews mimicking Walter Duranty.
ms tfk and her buddies working on U.S. Senate races of 2014.
They think the tea party/conservtives/NRA should work on these races.
Alaska,,, Mark Begich can be beat
Colorado, Mark Udall can be beat
Deaware,,,Chris Coons possible,,
Illinois,,Durbin should be beat,,, who?
Iowa,,,,,,Tom Harkin retiring,,,who?
Lousiana,,Mary Landrieu,,,can be beat, La. purchase
Mass.,,,,,Kerry quit,,, run the RINO one more time.??
Michigan,,Carl Levin,,, can be beat
Minnesota,Al’s a freak,,,should be beat
New Hamshire,Jeanne Shaheen, who ever heard of her,, possible
New Mexico, Tom Udall,,, can be beat
North Car. Kay Hagan,,, can be beat
Oregan ,,, Jeff Merkley can be beat
LINDSEY RINO PUNK GRAHAM,, MUST BE BEAT,,,, WHO???
S. Dakota,,,Tim Johnson can be beat
John Cornyn,,, guy worries us here in Texas, possible another Tea Party real conservative can do this .
Virginia ,, Mark Warner,,, can be beat
W. Virgina,,Jay Rockefeller,,, (Shelley Capito) R running is she ok
16 possibles of the D’s
2 RINO’s that could vote with the D’s
What think you
and
We have to get to work now she says and put in as many R’s as possible
In 1975 after Phnom Penh fell to the Khmer Rouge, The New York Times had an article entitled “For Most Cambodians, A Better Life”.
@ Rodan:
Of course with Tommy Troll, you know he read it somewhere else. Once challenged he scampers off -- never, EVER answers a question put to him. Probably because Mom’s called him to get on the school bus.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Sounds good. I’m glad there’s some hope out there.
My state is stuck with two tyrannical dem senators because our senior citizens are resistant to change.
@ Iron Fist:
We didn’t believe the polls that showed the Democrats with a 6 point turnout advantage or polls showing Obama beating Romney. They were right. I do not doubt this poll. I fear Obama has become an icon. He has smashed the GOP and now looks like a hero to Americans.
The Media-Entertainment Industrial Complex along with Santorum and Akins have turned the GOP into the bad guy in most Americans mind.
@ Mars:
It is a tactic, just as Sherman’s march through Georgia was a tactic. It should be part of the overall strategy, but you aren’t demeaned by using the tactics of the enemy. He has, after all, set the ground rules that you are fighting under, or at least he has in this case. We are 40 years late getting to th eParty. We need every winning tactic that we can find.
Speranza wrote:
I was going to mention the Khmer but, wasn’t sure of an exact example.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I am going to sign up for OFA’s email talking points.
@ taxfreekiller:
TFK- of course with Franken, if the Sec’y of State that was in power in 2008 is still there, if Smiley loses, they’ll be pulling ballots out of ice fishing holes to make sure he wins again.
@ Speranza:
Hitler was viewed as a Progressive/Socialist until June 22nd 1941.
commies love Obama
30% of Americans have turned this liar two party evil money cult off and go about their lives the best they can knowing sooner or later the msm/commie/rino deal will fail total, they are making ready,
likely at gun stores now, it will be the only other way to vote…in time @ Rodan:
@ taxfreekiller:
Tell her to please not to support any Akins/Murdoch/Angle/O’Donnell/Buck type candidates. I don’t want the Republicans to go under 40 seats.
Rodan wrote:
Yeah he predicted great things ahead.
@ taxfreekiller:
Arm up and prepare, that is what I tell people. Look after yourself. Both parties are Globalists and beholden to Saudi Arabia/Qatar/Muslim Brotherhood.
Carolina Girl wrote:
It’s obvious where he got it. If you write to any dem politician you get put on an email list, these lists carry point by point talking points that allow for no deviation of thought.
I finally just had to block all the bastards, unsubscribe didn’t work.
At first it was interesting seeing inside their system, but then I realized just how sick and backwards their whole thing is and couldn’t do it anymore.
@ Carolina Girl:
Left you some links @ #87, last thread.
Rodan wrote:
There is a reason why they are called The Stupid Party.
Iron Fist wrote:
I fully agree. A weapon itself isn’t evil, evil is in the purpose for it’s utilization. In this case it is in service to the opposition of evil.
I’m a big fan.
Speranza wrote:
The Khmer Rouge, weren’t those the guys that murdered people wearing glasses because intellectuals wore glasses?
Looking at the the Times record with regard to totalitarians it’s a wonder it has survived for so long. It’s not fit to wrap fish or line birdcages.
@ Iron Fist:
I have been advocating using the tactics of Saul Alinsky. But most Republican leaning people and the Party are against this.
@ Speranza:
Bobby Jindal said it best!
citizen_q wrote:
The Times also refused to recognize the Holocausts main victims as Jews.
Rodan wrote:
They are The Stupid Party, no question about it.
@ 21 Rodan: Most of the libs encountering a hardship can’t fathom that Obama is the cause so they look anyplace else.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Hey Buzzy -- I saw them! Didn’t get a chance to say thanks and tell you how much I enjoyed them.
Carolina Girl wrote:
The only Party the Minnesota State GOPee will fight is the TEA Party. Don’t expect much out of Minnesota.
I’m NRA you hate, I am
NRA you hate, I am, I am
I own guns and I want to buy more
You keep asking what I need ‘em for
But thanks to the Second Amendment (Amendment!)
It’s none of your business what I need (Indeed!)
Whether for sport or personal defendment
NRA you hate I a-a-a-a-am
NRA you hate I am
Second verse, same as the first!
A little bit louder, and a little bit worse!
I’m NRA you hate, I am
NRA you hate, I am, I am
I own guns and I want to buy more
You keep asking what I need ‘em for
But thanks to the Second Amendment (Amendment!)
It’s none of your business what I need (Indeed!)
Whether for sport or personal defendment
NRA you hate I a-a-a-a-am
NRA you hate I am
@ Speranza:
Let me guess. The Times says the main victims were gay, don’t they? Typical.
darkwords wrote:
They love him.
@ 49 Rodan: There is a right way to do it and a wrong way. Same as using a gun. Would those same repubs then be against using a gun because a few people don’t use them right? One could make the same case about aggregation of information as violating a sense of privacy about the individual, but the person that doesn’t do it probably can’t win an election. the other side will be there first and faster and slicker and better and as a winner. no one wants to back a loser. The Gop’rs who can’t grasp an improved Alinsky method for the Gop are not the people we want in leadership. Alinsky wanted bad things to happen, the GoP fundamentally doesn’t need to accept that part of the Alinsky method. They do have to be able to place doubt on Obama. And it has to be an exaggerated doubt. But it can have a basis in truth.
@ Speranza:
Yes, I remember reading some weak rationalization about not wanting be known as a Jewish paper.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Glad you liked ‘em! Just keeping you up to date.
@ darkwords:
Well said!
O/T Rhetorical question.
If IDs for voting is racist and a violation of civil rights, why are all road-blocks to firearms ownership in place and being discussed not?
Dang, I wish the talk radio stations I stream would not subscribe to liberal news outfits for their top and bottom of the hour reporting.
@ citizen_q:
Because they know those laws won’t actually affect the ability of black gangbangers to acquire guns?
@ citizen_q:
Gun control laws do disproportionally target minorities and the poor. Even that great “compromise” of not letting felons purchase firearms disproportionately hits blacks and hispanics. Not a word is said of that because the Left like it that way. It was a combination of the assassinations of MLK and Bobby Kennedy and fear of the Black Panthers that led to the 1968 Gun Control Act that spawned that. The Left aren’t above using racisimto sell what they can, and the MFM will let them get away with it. As I’ve said before, gun right asre Civil Rights. There is no difference between targeting them and supporting segregation.
@ lobo91:
Did you see this?
Now, Rahm woulfd personally arrest me if I showed up in Chicago with a gun, but black gangbangers shooting ech other are more useful to him outside of jail. They provide his most compelling case for gun control, while in actuality they demonstrate its ultimate futility if you are interested in lowering the crime rate. I honestly don’t think that the Democrats are interested in lowering the crime rate, though.
@ lobo91:
@ Iron Fist:
I think for various reasons progressives want a certain level and kind of lawlessness.
@ lobo91:
But they effect the ability of law abiding Blacks to get gun ownership. I wish this point would be made more often.
@ Iron Fist:
GMTA!
@ Iron Fist:
Gun Control is racist.
@ Rodan:
McDonald in Chicago is black. I haven’t heard whether or not he has ever actually been able to buy a gun despite the Supreme Court finding in his favor. People like the NAACP don’t care if blacks are discriminated against by gun control laws. They simply don’t.
@ Iron Fist:
The NAACP is nothing more than Overseers to make sure Blacks stay as Democrat voters. That is all they are about. It’s a shame the Right is dysfunctional and could not make a racial case against Gun Control.
Iron Fist wrote:
…and they get out the vote.
@ Iron Fist:
It has never occurred to these so called leader to consider the simple fact that the witnesses and victims have no way to defend themselves if they do cooperate with a police force that will not protect them.
The “no-snitch” code of silence is the only protection these people have against the criminals.
Rush, Hannity, Savage, Levin, all the national conservative talk shows together with the local conservative talks shows they carry the whole load of cost and profit for all of the stations and networks, the msm lie news is paid for by conservatives. Without conservative talk shows msm network news would have been out of bussiness years ago.
Not smart at all imho.@ citizen_q:
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/is-fox-news-really-different/
And finally someone comes forward with what I have been saying for years.
deterrmine what the donk weaknesses are and exploit them…they are deceitful and irrational so get in their face and pound away…they are target rich, but you have to take it to them, otherwise they sit back and define the rules and the laguage
On second thinking, out of the profit bussiness and run by and on our tax money dole from D.C. like PBR/NPR.@ taxfreekiller:
deterrmine what the donk weaknesses are and exploit them…they are deceitful and irrational so get in their face and pound away…they are target rich, but you have to take it to them, otherwise they sit back and define the rules and the language
I guess it depends on the meaning of “extremists”…
//
Just a coincidence, I’m sure…
Remind me again why anyone listens to this dumbass?
lobo91 wrote:
There are no coincidences where the Pharaoh is concerned.
The past must always be destroyed or defaced to make way for monuments for the Pharaoh.
@ lobo91:
I don’t have to. Because nobody does. Unless they’re stick in a waiting room or an airport.
@ Mars:
I think in his heart of hearts (such as it is), Obama really believes he’s going to be put on Mt. Rushmore as well.
@ Mars:
i thought his ‘home’ was in dixon, il?
I found it very interesting to see the poll the other day that said that Obama was disliked more than President Bush. Which is even more disparaging to Oblahblah than it appears -- because Bush had a very hostile media that did everything to disparage him. Oblahblah has a sympathetic media that is doing everything they can to prop him up — and he STILL is unliked.
Carney is apparently trying out for Baghdad Bob’s old job:
Carolina Girl wrote:
Yeah, because he’ll issue an executive order to have it done.
@ Carolina Girl:
he has large plans…
Mt Omore
his face on the new $3 bill
writing the liner notes on the next Beatles album
renaming the Oscar…the Obot
starting a new religion
@ coldwarrior:
In good news today, and I hadn’t seen this earlier, it appears that CNN has fired that halfwit Soledad O’Brien. Apparently no one was watching her show.
Using that as a criteria, though, shouldn’t EVERYONE at CNN be fired?
The whole of the donk operation is lie based.
All that is needed are the facts.
We have them on the run re: AGW world wide.
All that took was a few e-mails and getting the facts out on one private run blog. http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
And that was done with 50% of the dam R’s on board with the tax and spend fraud.
Facts win, lies not so much.
@ heysoos:
I thought he’d pretty much accomplished the last one there, Haysoos!
What Obama thinks he is, however he forgets the lesson of the poems.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I’m sure al Jazeera will be looking for more English-speaking hosts for their new channel.
heysoos wrote:
Done.
http://patriotupdate.com/videos/democrats-the-church-of-obama/
There is also a Church of Obama, but I’m pretty sure it’s a parody. (at least I hope so).
Too,
The real problem is the RINO’s who are on board with the commie tax and spend dole pork deals. They get re-election money from the same scabs the commies do, so they sort of ruin the brew for U.S..@ taxfreekiller:
@ lobo91:
That wouldn’t surprise me in the least, though I think one of the Current TV personalities (Jennifer Granholm?) quit. I could see them dredging up Kieth Olberman, too…
I here Olberdork is walking around Manhattan with a tin cup and a sign “Will Smear and Bash Republicans for Food.”
Carolina Girl wrote:
He should just run for Congress, then.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Well, he did a lot of drugs, so Mount Rush-more would be appropriate for such a stoner.
Of course, it’s in the Black Hills and Obama’s only half black, but he identifies black…
@ Iron Fist:
I’d never even heard of Current TV until al bore sold out to big oil.
I find it amusing the hypocrisy of the sale, which stands right up with the rest of his life. Fleecing the rubes with the green con, while living quite the opposite to what he was selling. Openly so, and none of his sycophants could question why the emperor had not clothes.
Seems to me the demonrats in microcosm.
everyday BO needs to be challenged, called out and mocked for his nonstop bullshit…republican leaders should demand to debate him on key issues and force him to commit or back down and when he does smack him again…the recent court decision regarding his slimy, cowardly appointments should be shoved back in his face…beat the shit out of him, soften him up…he’s most vulnerable via his ego/image…predict what he’s going to do before he does it…don’t fear him, threaten him, expose him and laugh in his face, and do it often and relentlessly
Carolina Girl wrote:
there has been a massacre at cnn.
it will be interesting to see what happens now.
taxfreekiller wrote:
Here’s where I think we have gotten it wrong. They aren’t RINO’s they are CINO’s (conservative in name only). They are the establishment not us. In many ways we are the RINO’s, because many of us think we can only vote R because of what is presented to us.
I’m a RINO for this reason. Until I have a real choice! I’m a conservative, not a republican no matter the names I’m called!
heysoos wrote:
you get it.
too bad the spineless wonders in the gop cant seem to fathom this.
Carolina Girl wrote:
If she goes transgender, she could be a “Soledad Brother.”
at this point I’m convinced the MSM is more powerful than the donk party itself
Swept Away -- Navy to scrap $277 million ship to avoid scraping reef
The Chicoms really don’t have to worry about the US Navy, at least not while Obama is destroying the US Navy for them…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
truly embarrassing…running your ship aground, good grief
OK someone just sent me this…
A Russian scientist and a Czechoslovakian scientist had spent their whole lives studying the majestic grizzly bear. Each year they petitioned their respective governments to allow them to go to Yellowstone to study these wondrous beasts. Finally, their request was granted and they immediately flew to New York and then west to Yellowstone. They reported to the local ranger station and were told that it was the grizzly mating season and it was much too dangerous to go out and study the animals. They pleaded that this was their only chance. Finally the ranger relented. The Russian and the Czech were given cell phones and told to report in each day. For several days they called in, and then nothing was heard from the two scientists. The rangers mounted a search party and found the scientists’ camp completely ravaged. There was no sign of the missing men. They then followed the trail of a male and a female bear. They found the female and decided they must kill the animal to find out if she had eaten the scientists, because they feared an international incident. They killed the female and cut open the bear’s stomach and, sure enough, found the remains of the Russian. One ranger turned to the other and said, “You know what this means, don’t you?”"Of course,” the other ranger nodded. “The Czech is in the male.”
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
hey they can save a lot on mines and just plant coral…
heysoos wrote:
Great Blue Water Navy…In the shallows, not so much
@ Tanker:
those waters are well charted…how the skipper explains this one is beyond me…his command is finished
heysoos wrote:
He can always get a job piloting supertankers up around Prince William Sound.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
DRINK!
brookly red wrote:
I thought the Navy disbanded their coral unit after the Village People…
heysoos wrote:
Not according to the article:
@ heysoos:
Guess I should have added the sarc tag. I agree with you, he is finished!
@ lobo91:
good for him…that’s all that can save his career now, and I hope that’s the case…I was wrong
@ Tanker:
agreed. 100%
all I know is when you hit something, run aground, hole your hull or whatever, you’re done…if it’s your fault that is
heysoos wrote:
Fact checking is still a good thing….for me as well!
You know that you are not an Obama favorite when he appoints you
ambassador to Zimbabwe
He actually appointed one in 2009.
@ heysoos:
If the charts were off by 8 miles, it seems like it would be hard to blame him. That’s not a minor error.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
no the Chinese navy… they just need to plant coral around Taiwan. Maybe claim there are endangered species too.
lobo91 wrote:
8!!!
wow.
heysoos wrote:
According to what I saw, he and the crew are back at their homeport, “training for a future assignment,” and he’s still in charge of them.
@ coldwarrior:
Of course, it says they were “digital charts.”
I think I’d keep a set of paper ones around, just in case.
//GIGO
@ lobo91:
actually a bit shocking….wtf?…8 miles?…that’s point blank range for surface guns, pinned along a reef?…call Google
lobo91 wrote:
That.
heysoos wrote:
The electronic chart that was in use at the time was wrong, they thought they were 8 miles from that reef.
@ coldwarrior:
They’re SOOO backpedaling now because there was talk that they fired Soledad because her show was viewed mostly by African-Americans….
I personally think someone from CNN finally realized this woman is such a hack that even they couldn’t stand it anymore. If I were Piss Morgan, I’d start mending fences back in the old country….
Carolina Girl wrote:
Piers Morgan is bad news in Britain because of the fake photo his newspaper (of which he was the Editor of) printed of British soldiers allegedly pissing on a Muslim prisoner.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Why was she fired? In their heats, they know she’s light.
(With apologies to the ’64 Goldwater campaign)
Update to my post, Israel has struck Damascus.
@ MacDuff:
Godlwater, he was ahead of his times.
@ Tanker:
Well said.
Rodan wrote:
Yes he was and a good part of today’s “base” would reject him if he were alive today.
@ Speranza:
That is why Goldwater does not get much mention anymore.
@ Rodan:
I came across this earlier today and I thought you’d be interested:
Buckley, and I believe Goldwater as well, were libertarians before libertarianism was cool.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
my best friends sister married a wealthy, famous OB/GYN…they retired and bought a sailboat…a 60ft aluminum hulled schooner named ‘Sovereign’ built in Austraila, one of two…so he putts around the Great Lakes learning how to rig sails, care for the boat, the basics…then he goes off and buys a sextant and a bunch of books and charts to learn to navigate…that stuff is so complex that most people just stand aside and watch, but he did it…he had all the state of the art comms and dishes and GPS but he needed to learn this for himself….I went out several times with them on Lake Michigan and I tell you steering a 60ft sailboat is nearly impossible…they don’t respond to the wheel…he’d take a reading then run down the deck yelling 2 degrees to port!…so I’d turn the wheel while he tweaked the sails…he’d yell put the bow on that house or point (5 miles back to shore) and hold her!…turn the wheel and long seconds the bow would start to come around, more long seconds til you tried to come back…bigtime sailing is a serious rush…and not at all easy…as time passed they took the Sovereign around the world, up the Amazon and had all kinds of adventures
Speranza wrote:
The base is an ass.
heysoos wrote:
I’ve always respected people with money who actually know what to do with it; this guy sounds like one of those people.
MacDuff wrote:
the base is waiting for another anti abortion hero to come along…the base is way out of touch, therefor worthless…the world is falling apart and they are concerned about gays getting married
@ MacDuff:
I agree
MacDuff wrote:
Hence the reason we will never come together to solve anything! We destroy our own and do nothing to those who we should destroy!
@ MacDuff:
he was obsessed with going to South America to practice his trade for the poor etc…they’d travel in packs of 6 or 8 boats for security…then spend a couple weeks shorebound treating new mothers…he was deep into Doctors Without Borders or whoever they are…some mighty fine people…he had the money to combine sailing/travel and medical practice all in one
French say Judaism and Christianity are toleratnt, but Islam isn’t.
Tanker wrote:
YES
lobo91 wrote:
Aah Apple Maps strikes again.
Rodan wrote:
It would appear that the “Asian” yoots burning cars by the thousands have not won any friends, eh?
Speranza wrote:
And the cell phone tapping scandal. And a bugging scandal, and an unauthorized records scandal.
French society is under assault by Muslims living in Paris
Suburbs etc.
Police have no go zones & people won’t take public transportation
through Muslim areas , since there are attacks on buses.
The French are seeing it up close & personal.
Pro-Gun Advocate Rips Into Dem Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse: Why Do You Get To Decide Which Gun A Woman Uses For Self-Defense?…
Ok, people stop with the “base” nonsense. If you understand anything at all about the “base” you know that it is essentially the same coalition put together by Reagan. In fact that is the core of our problem. There is no unified Republican or even conservative base. Every person is their own base and all headed a different direction. In fact what I always viewed as the democrats greatest weakness may in fact be one of their strengths. The Dems don’t go after people, they go after groups. Their “base” is made up of a thousand special interest groups, many in direct opposition to others.
But if you look at it in a structural term, the republicans are standing on a thousand individual reeds. The dems are standing on a hundred reed bundles. Guess which is stronger?
New Thread.
@ lobo91:
funny joke…but I’m not laughing…
these people are stupid beyond belief, ideologues
heysoos wrote:
I’d really love to hand him my Mini-14 and see if he could figure out how to load it.
I’d load the magazine with dummy rounds, of course, because he’d probably manage to shoot a bystander otherwise.
Mars wrote:
If the base couldn’t instinctively march in the same general direction to keep a man like Obama out of the White House in ’08, and again fail to march in the same general direction to get his ass out of the White house in ’12, what the hell good are they?
I’ve no allegiance to this elusive, bitchy “base” because they seem to put their narrow interests over the interests of this country. Screw ‘em because they’ve screwed all of us…twice.
MacDuff wrote:
That’s the point. There is no base. Never has been. It’s just an alliance of people who see something that needs to be done. Just like the tea party.
The republicans have no form of mobilization, haven’t in a long time.
Obama and his handlers are masters of mobilization.
The dems know how to rouse the loyal and distract the lo info.
That is the problem inherent in being the party of rugged individualism.
And your whole comment proved my point. Why do you think the whole concept of a republican base is absurd.
Repeat a million times and stir.
MacDuff wrote:
And screw the:
Libertarians
Catholics
Mormons
Latinos
Blacks
Asians
Muslims
Jews
We will never need any of them!
Since the discussion is headed upstairs I’m going to desert this thread. See you up top.
Tanker wrote:
No, don’t screw the libertarians (small l), embrace them and become them. As for the rest of the designations, they’re meaningless. All that matters is individual liberty, limited government and lower taxes, not race, ethnicity or religion. Out-pandering the Democrats is like out-slutting Kim Kardasian. Give them liberty, make their lives better and the people will support you.
MacDuff wrote:
I have as many problems with the libertarian views as you have with many conservative views. Problem isn’t resolved, just kicked around.
@ Tanker:
What problems do you have with them?
Let’s get it out.
This is a thing that needs discussion.
unclassifiable wrote:
Their view on drugs is my biggest issue with them, personal for me!
@ Tanker:
If drugs are handled on a state-by-state basis is that enough of a compromise?
I am talking weed here. It is the only one that I have observed that there is any semblance of socially civil behavior with the users.
@ Tanker:
@ unclassifiable:
This is how things are done. The nitty-gritty sort of speak. We have things in common (I’m gussing anti-gun control is one). How can we work together to get this resolved and move on to more important issues.
@ unclassifiable:
Because here is my point. This type of negotiation is the same thing that happens in legislatures. If we as a group/an association/a party are going to gain power we have to demonstrate that we can do that amoung ourselves.
My humble opinion of course.
Going to go home and get some grub. I look forward to an answer.
Take care.
Rodan wrote:
How the 2012 Obama campaign fooled the lo-info voters
Mars wrote:
That’s the University of Chicago for you.
The net output of the UofC is negative.
Big time.