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Rupert Murdoch apologizes for ‘grotesque’ Middle East cartoon in a newspaper he owns

by Speranza ( 145 Comments › )
Filed under Anti-semitism, Israel, Media, Palestinians, UK at January 30th, 2013 - 7:00 am

I give Rupert Murdoch credit for not sweeping it under the rug. The hatred of Israel and Jews in the British  media has become quite palpable.

@rupertmurdoch

Rupert Murdoch

Gerald Scarfe has never reflected the opinions of the Sunday Times. Nevertheless, we owe major apology for grotesque, offensive cartoon.

by Katherine Rushton

(איור: ג'ראלד סקארף, סאנדיי טיימס)

Netanyahu cartoon in Sunday Times

Media baron Rupert Murdoch has apologized for a Sunday Times cartoon depicting Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahubuilding a wall using blood-red mortar, an image Jewish leaders said was reminiscent of anti-Semitic propaganda.

The political cartoon, which was published on Holocaust Memorial Day, shows Netanyahu wielding a long, sharp trowel and depicts agonized Palestinians bricked into the wall’s structure. It was meant as a comment on recent elections in which Netanyahu’s ticket narrowly won the most seats in the Israeli parliament.

“Will cementing the peace continue?” the caption read, a reference both to the stalled peace process and Israel’s separation barrier, a complex of fences and concrete walls which Israel portrays as a defense against suicide bombers but which Palestinians say is a land grab under the guise of security.

[.......]  “Nevertheless, we owe (a) major apology for (the) grotesque, offensive cartoon,” Murdoch tweeted.

Jewish community leaders were particularly disturbed by parallels they saw between the red-tinged drawing and historical anti-Semitic propaganda – in particular the theme of “blood libel,” the twisted but persistent myth that Jews secretly use human blood in their religious rituals.

Their anger was heightened by the fact that the cartoon was published on a day meant to commemorate the communities destroyed by the Nazis and their allies in the mid-20th century.

The Board of Deputies of British Jews, which represents the country’s roughly 265,000-strong Jewish community, said it had lodged a complaint with the UK press watchdog.

The deputies said in a statement that the depiction of a Jewish leader using blood for mortar “is shockingly reminiscent of the blood libel imagery more usually found in parts of the virulently anti-Semitic Arab press.” Israel’s ambassador to Britain echoed the statement, while the speaker of Israel‘s parliament, Reuven Rivlin, wrote to his UK counterpart to express “extreme outrage.”

[......]

In a statement, the paper’s acting editor, Martin Ivens, said that insulting the memory of Holocaust victims or invoking blood libel “the last thing I or anyone connected with the Sunday Times would countenance.”

“The paper has long written strongly in defense of Israel and its security concerns, as have I as a columnist,” Ivens said. “We are, however, reminded of the sensitivities in this area by the reaction to the cartoon, and I will of course bear them very carefully in mind in future.”

[......]

Distorted features, blood, and excrement are commonplace. Former Prime Minister Tony Blair, a once-popular leader whose reputation was badly damaged by his decision to support the US invasion of Iraq, was often depicted with ghoulish features, sharpened fangs, or with his hands or mouth drenched in gore.

Scarfe, whose career with the Sunday Times stretches back to the 1960s, often makes use of blood in his cartoons.

The red fluid is splashed across his website and featured, for example, in a recent cartoon of Syrian leader BasharAssad, who was pictured as a green, wraith-like creature drinking greedily from an oversized cup labeled “Children’s Blood.”

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145 Responses to “Rupert Murdoch apologizes for ‘grotesque’ Middle East cartoon in a newspaper he owns”
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  1. 1 | January 30, 2013 7:29 am

    This is typical of the “civil” discourse we can expect from Liberals. What is untypical is Murdoch’s appology for it. Usually this kind of thing gets passed over as simply “normal” discourse. Of course it is offensive, but most of what Liberals do is offensive. Without ad hominimum and straw men, they would have no arguements at all.


  2. 2 | January 30, 2013 7:46 am

    Looking at the larger picture, does anyone else see parallels to the symbology of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”?


  3. 3 | January 30, 2013 7:48 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    No giant, carniverous vaginas in this Wall… 8O


  4. theoutsider
    4 | January 30, 2013 7:56 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    What do liberals have to do with this? A conservative cartoonist publishes a cartoon in a conservative newspaper, owned by Rupert Murdoch. Murdoch rightly apologized. Tell me what the liberal connection is?


  5. 5 | January 30, 2013 8:02 am

    @ theoutsider:

    Conservative cartoonist? Got any proof of that? He is on the Liberal side of the Israel question. That is evidenced by this cartoon. Do you deny that the Liberal side is most uncivil? We see evidence of that from your own President and from every editorial page in publishing.


  6. 6 | January 30, 2013 8:07 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Surprise surprise. Gerald Scarfe was the artist for “The Wall”.

    @ theoutsider:
    And the artist appears to be far from conservative. Just peruse his art.


  7. 7 | January 30, 2013 8:16 am

    @ the outsider:

    Excuse me, but I think you have smoke coming from your ass…..


  8. theoutsider
    8 | January 30, 2013 8:16 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    His artwork looks pretty conservative, and he works for the Sunday Times. He wouldn’t have been hired there if he wasn’t right leaning. Finally, the liberal side is not most uncivil. Who is more uncivil than Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc.


  9. 9 | January 30, 2013 8:17 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    People assume that because he owns Fox, Murdoh is a Conservative. I think that this is mistaken. Murdoch is a businessman, and he sees a vast, untapped market for conservative news. SO Fox taps that market, and is quite a success, especially when compared to Liberal outlets like CNN and MSNBC. That is a business decision. I don’t kno wthat it reflects Murdoch’s personal views.


  10. 10 | January 30, 2013 8:19 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    His artwork looks pretty conservative, and he works for the Sunday Times

    His art looks conservative? Really? And just because he works for a “Conservative” paper doesn’t mean he’s a right winger. Just like because I am a photographic artist doesn’t mean I am a liberal leftist.


  11. 11 | January 30, 2013 8:20 am

    @ theoutsider:

    Did you actually click on Palidin Phil’s link and look at his work? Margaret Thatcher hung from a scarf is conservative? You’re delusional. And Limbaugh has never accused Obama od murdering anyone. Obama essentially accused Romney of murdering a woman. Game, set, match.


  12. 12 | January 30, 2013 8:21 am

    @ theoutsider:
    Missed this part. Alec Baldwin, Sean Penn, Michael Al-Moore, Al Gore, Maher….and that’s off the top of my head. I could add a hell of a lot more leftist artists that are a hell lot more uncivil then those conservatives you mentioned.


  13. 13 | January 30, 2013 8:25 am

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Mike al-Moor tops the list. It is har d to get more uncivil than him without actually maiming someone.


  14. theoutsider
    14 | January 30, 2013 8:28 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    I clicked on Paladin Phil’s link. Did you read the dozen or so cartoons at the front of Paladin Phil’s link. There was no liberal angle to this story. That was my point.


  15. 16 | January 30, 2013 8:42 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I clicked on Paladin Phil’s link. Did you read the dozen or so cartoons at the front of Paladin Phil’s link. There was no liberal angle to this story. That was my point.

    The liberal angle is that were Murdoch a liberal, he would not have apologized.


  16. Fritz Katz
    17 | January 30, 2013 8:43 am

    theoutsider: theoutsider


  17. waldensianspirit
    18 | January 30, 2013 8:44 am

    Mark Levin is civility incarnate


  18. Fritz Katz
    19 | January 30, 2013 8:46 am

    I hope Murdoch gave a severe reprimand — or better yet, sacked — the editor who approved the cartoon.


  19. RIX
    20 | January 30, 2013 8:55 am

    Good morning. Greta broadcast her interview with Hillary last night.
    Disappointing, very soft.


  20. theoutsider
    21 | January 30, 2013 8:56 am

    @ MacDuff:
    I disagree. Any publisher that put that cartoon out would have to apologize, no matter what his or her politics.


  21. 22 | January 30, 2013 8:58 am

    Speaking of incivility from the Left, they aren’t above manufacturing claims against the Right. In other words, lying outright. Only fools trust the MFM.


  22. 23 | January 30, 2013 8:59 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    I disagree. Any publisher that put that cartoon out would have to apologize, no matter what his or her politics.

    Why, because it’s overtly anti-Semitic, rather than the usual fare of more subtle anti-Semitism in more liberal papers?


  23. coldwarrior
    24 | January 30, 2013 9:00 am

    @ MacDuff:

    that’s our 1130 thread.


  24. 25 | January 30, 2013 9:01 am

    @ theoutsider:

    To my knowledge, the Washington Post never appologized for this.


  25. 26 | January 30, 2013 9:02 am

    RIX wrote:

    Good morning. Greta broadcast her interview with Hillary last night.
    Disappointing, very soft.

    I’m starting to think that it’s dark-side-of-the-force Jedi mind tricks. Uh, oh, I said “dark side”……


  26. 27 | January 30, 2013 9:04 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    that’s our 1130 thread.

    That oughta be fun……. ;)


  27. 28 | January 30, 2013 9:09 am

    And we’re almost Officially back in Recession. Right on cue:

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. economy shrank from October through December for the first time since the recession ended, hurt by the biggest cut in defense spending in 40 years, fewer exports and sluggish growth in company stockpiles. The decline occurred despite faster growth in consumer spending and business investment.

    The Commerce Department said Wednesday that the economy contracted at an annual rate of 0.1 percent in the fourth quarter. That’s a sharp slowdown from the 3.1 percent growth rate in the July-September quarter and the first contraction since the second quarter of 2009.

    That’ll help our unemployment numbers! it’s the Obama Boom™!


  28. Speranza
    29 | January 30, 2013 9:09 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    Looking at the larger picture, does anyone else see parallels to the symbology of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”?

    Roger Waters is a big Israel hater.


  29. 30 | January 30, 2013 9:10 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    But I thought the economy was booming!


  30. Speranza
    31 | January 30, 2013 9:11 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    His artwork looks pretty conservative, and he works for the Sunday Times. He wouldn’t have been hired there if he wasn’t right leaning. Finally, the liberal side is not most uncivil. Who is more uncivil than Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc.

    1. The Sunday Times has always been anti Israel
    2. Mike Malloy, Keith Olbermann, Lawrence O’Donnell, Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews, Piers Morgan, Toure, Janeane Garfalo


  31. 32 | January 30, 2013 9:11 am

    @ Rodan:

    It’s a sub-sonic boom… 8O


  32. Speranza
  33. Speranza
    34 | January 30, 2013 9:13 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    But I thought the economy was booming!

    My company (you know where I work) has laid off dozens in the past week.


  34. RIX
    35 | January 30, 2013 9:17 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Good morning. Greta broadcast her interview with Hillary last night.
    Disappointing, very soft.

    I’m starting to think that it’s dark-side-of-the-force Jedi mind tricks. Uh, oh, I said “dark side”……

    You will report to reeducation at 0800 hours tomorrow Citizen!


  35. theoutsider
    36 | January 30, 2013 9:18 am

    @ Speranza:
    So, Rupert Murdoch is Anti-Israel in your opinion?


  36. 37 | January 30, 2013 9:18 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ Speranza:

    I wonder what Outsider has to say about this?


  37. citizen_q
    38 | January 30, 2013 9:18 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I must have missed where we left being in a recession / depression.


  38. 39 | January 30, 2013 9:21 am

    @ theoutsider:

    What do you have to say about the 4th Quarter GDP contraction?


  39. Speranza
    40 | January 30, 2013 9:21 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    So, Rupert Murdoch is Anti-Israel in your opinion?

    Don’t be an ass, Murdoch is pro Israel, his newspaper The Sunday Times is not. However The New York Post which he also owns is pro Israel.


  40. Speranza
    42 | January 30, 2013 9:24 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ theoutsider:
    What do you have to say about the 4th Quarter GDP contraction?

    They will talk about “jobs saved”.


  41. lobo91
    43 | January 30, 2013 9:25 am

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I must have missed where we left being in a recession / depression.

    Welcome to America’s “managed decline,” brought to you by Obama.

    Everything is going according to plan.


  42. 44 | January 30, 2013 9:25 am

    @ lobo91:

    But the economy is booming like never before!


  43. theoutsider
    45 | January 30, 2013 9:25 am

    @ Rodan:
    It’s still about the same. A minor contraction is not that big a deal. All of the economic experts say that the economy is really going to grow this year.


  44. RIX
    46 | January 30, 2013 9:26 am

    It is probably common knowledge, but Kerry was confirmed with only
    three no votes.
    There should be a counter Mount Rushmore with him , Benedict Arnold
    & the Rosenbergs.


  45. coldwarrior
    47 | January 30, 2013 9:26 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    It’s still about the same. A minor contraction is not that big a deal. All of the economic experts say that the economy is really going to grow this year.

    please, stop now. you just made my MS in economics weep at your ignorance.

    how could you be so mean to that sheepskin?


  46. 48 | January 30, 2013 9:28 am

    @ theoutsider:

    They’ve been predicting that since 2009, and it hasn’t materialized yet. It isn’t really likely to. Unemployment is high, taxes are up, regulation is up, and so on. What makes you think that there would be significant growth in this environment? Most of the growth in the last three years has been in the government sector. That is parasitic on the rest of the economy.


  47. 49 | January 30, 2013 9:29 am

    @ Speranza:

    Clearly, “theoutsider” expects all of Mudoch’s news organs to be in ideological lockstep and under strict editorial control in the manner of leftist media.


  48. Speranza
    50 | January 30, 2013 9:33 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Clearly, “theoutsider” expects all of Mudoch’s news organs to be in ideological lockstep and under strict editorial control in the manner of leftist media.

    He projects Obama totalitarian tendencies onto others.


  49. Speranza
    51 | January 30, 2013 9:33 am

    RIX wrote:

    It is probably common knowledge, but Kerry was confirmed with only
    three no votes.
    There should be a counter Mount Rushmore with him , Benedict Arnold
    & the Rosenbergs.

    I’ll bet McCain was leading the praise of “my good friend John Kerry”.


  50. Speranza
    52 | January 30, 2013 9:35 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But the economy is booming like never before!

    I am surprised they did not hold off and release the bad economic news on Friday afternoon or on Super Bowl Sunday.


  51. 53 | January 30, 2013 9:36 am

    @ Speranza:

    I knew Kerry would sail through, though. He’ll be the worst Secretary of State we’ve ever had, but it wouldn’t do for his compatriots in the Senate not to be collegial, now would it?


  52. Speranza
    54 | January 30, 2013 9:36 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    It’s still about the same. A minor contraction is not that big a deal. All of the economic experts say that the economy is really going to grow this year.

    I have heard the “experts” say that your 401K’s and stocks will take a blood bath this year.


  53. waldensianspirit
    55 | January 30, 2013 9:36 am

    theoutsider


  54. 56 | January 30, 2013 9:36 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    They’ve been predating that since 2009, and it hasn’t materialized yet.

    Ah yes, “Recovery Summer”, I remember it well! The left has been writing us post-dated checks on this elusive recovery for four years now and, from my own perspective, the economic state of this country is worse than when W was President.


  55. Speranza
    57 | January 30, 2013 9:37 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I knew Kerry would sail through, though. He’ll be the worst Secretary of State we’ve ever had, but it wouldn’t do for his compatriots in the Senate not to be collegial, now would it?

    Collegiality in the Senate means Republicans bow to the Democrats, and Democrats take a whiz on the Republicans. It would be hard to be worse then Hillary Clinton.


  56. RIX
    58 | January 30, 2013 9:37 am

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    It is probably common knowledge, but Kerry was confirmed with only
    three no votes.
    There should be a counter Mount Rushmore with him , Benedict Arnold
    & the Rosenbergs.

    I’ll bet McCain was leading the praise of “my good friend John Kerry”.

    No doubt about it.


  57. 59 | January 30, 2013 9:39 am

    @ Speranza:

    Jobs report comes out Friday. I wonder how they’ll spin it? Unemployment remains the same, but x hundred thousand workers dropped out of the workforce?


  58. Speranza
    60 | January 30, 2013 9:39 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Ah yes, “Recovery Summer”, I remember it well! The left has been writing us post-dated checks on this elusive recovery for four years now and, from my own perspective, the economic state of this country is worse than when W was President.

    Yeah the Summer of 2009 which Joe Hair Plugs named “The Recovery Summer”. Well it went as good as “The Summer of George”.


  59. citizen_q
    61 | January 30, 2013 9:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Don’t forget the demonization of success, and calls for redistribution.

    It would give me pause to try for a 2nd mortgage and hitting up friends and family for seed money to start a new venture.


  60. 62 | January 30, 2013 9:41 am

    Speranza wrote:

    I’ll bet McCain was leading the praise of “my good friend John Kerry”.

    He absolutely was! Of course, they have a lot in common, they both married rich women, though McCain got one who actually looks like, ya know, a woman.


  61. lobo91
    63 | January 30, 2013 9:42 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    It’s still about the same. A minor contraction is not that big a deal. All of the economic experts say that the economy is really going to grow this year.

    The only reason there’s any economic activity at all is because Bernanke is printing $40 billion a month in imaginary money.

    He’s going to end up hanging from a lamp post when this is all over.

    And there are lots of lamp posts in DC.

    //Just sayin’


  62. Speranza
    64 | January 30, 2013 9:43 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    I’ll bet McCain was leading the praise of “my good friend John Kerry”.
    He absolutely was! Of course, they have a lot in common, they both married rich women, though McCain got one who actually looks like, ya know, a woman.

    I refuse to buy any Heinz product because of Tah-ray-zah!


  63. Speranza
    65 | January 30, 2013 9:44 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Jobs report comes out Friday. I wonder how they’ll spin it? Unemployment remains the same, but x hundred thousand workers dropped out of the workforce?

    “Unemployment went up ‘unexpectedly’ ” will be in the report.


  64. RIX
    66 | January 30, 2013 9:46 am

    The only reason there’s any economic activity at all is because Bernanke is printing $40 billion a month in imaginary money.

    He’s going to end up hanging from a lamp post when this is all over.

    And there are lots of lamp posts in DC.

    //Just sayin’
    @ lobo91:

    That’s it exactly, he is just flooding cash.
    It’s nothing but empty calories & will just make things worse.


  65. 67 | January 30, 2013 9:51 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    The only reason there’s any economic activity at all is because Bernanke is printing $40 billion a month in imaginary money.

    He’s going to end up hanging from a lamp post when this is all over.

    And there are lots of lamp posts in DC.

    //Just sayin’

    I’m no economics major, but all of this Federal Reserve Stimulus seems a lot like taking periodic shots of Jack Daniels in order to ward of those pesky effects of alcohol withdrawal.


  66. 68 | January 30, 2013 9:51 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    It’s still about the same. A minor contraction is not that big a deal. All of the economic experts say that the economy is really going to grow this year.

    Contractions are OK? Dude, you really are spinning.


  67. 69 | January 30, 2013 9:52 am

    @ lobo91:

    And there are lots of lamp posts in DC.

    Stout Hemp Rope! :lol:


  68. 70 | January 30, 2013 9:52 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Weapons grade stupid.


  69. 71 | January 30, 2013 9:53 am

    @ Rodan:

    Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!!!


  70. lobo91
    72 | January 30, 2013 9:54 am

    @ MacDuff:

    I’m no economics major, but all of this Federal Reserve Stimulus seems a lot like taking periodic shots of Jack Daniels in order to ward of those pesky effects of alcohol withdrawal.

    This is the “Weekend at Bernie’s” recovery.


  71. 73 | January 30, 2013 9:54 am

    theoutsider wrote:

    A minor contraction is not that big a deal.

    How does a “contraction” foretell economic growth? You do know the definition of “contraction”, right?


  72. 74 | January 30, 2013 9:56 am

    Israel strikes Hizb’Allah convoy


  73. 75 | January 30, 2013 9:57 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!!!

    Economic ignorance is just amazing.


  74. 76 | January 30, 2013 9:57 am

    @ lobo91:

    I read earlier today that Zimbabwe is down to their last $217. That money-printing works out great, doesn’t it? It has only failed in th epast because the right people haven’t tried it… :roll:


  75. lobo91
    77 | January 30, 2013 9:58 am

    Looks like the outsider has been busy writing to his local paper:

    Genius Obama Supporter: Democrats Must Amend the Constitution To Allow C-Section Babies To Run For President…

    Republicans and “so-called” conservatives are at it again. They are claiming that the Constitution gives people the right to have guns without the permission of the government. If that were true, then how could New York and Chicago have laws against it?

    The Republicans are just trying to stand in the way, because the president is black. They even dared to question whether he was born in this country. I think all this demonstrates that the Constitution needs to be amended when it comes to the qualifications for being president. Right now, it says that a person has to be 35 years old and be a natural born citizen. Well, that is obviously unfair because there are a great many otherwise qualified people who cannot run for president because their mothers had to have a C-section. But because the Constitution was written a hundred years ago, nobody even thought of the discrimination that would result from a doctor having to deliver a baby in this unnatural way. Now that we Democrats are in control of the government, that’s just one more thing we should change in our drive to make life fair.


  76. lobo91
    78 | January 30, 2013 9:59 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!!!
    Economic ignorance is just amazing.

    I’m sure he agrees with Mary Landrieu about spending, too.


  77. 79 | January 30, 2013 9:59 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I read earlier today that Zimbabwe is down to their last $217. That money-printing works out great, doesn’t it? It has only failed in th epast because the right people haven’t tried it…

    That’s our 11 AM thread.


  78. 81 | January 30, 2013 10:00 am

    @ lobo91:

    GMTA Lobo, GMTA!!


  79. 82 | January 30, 2013 10:01 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    Look at me! Look at me! Look at me!!!

    Economic ignorance is just amazing.

    In this day and under all these conditions, it is inexcusable.


  80. 83 | January 30, 2013 10:02 am

    @ lobo91:

    That is the OFA talking points. Economic contraction is OK and Fox is making up that spending is out of control.


  81. citizen_q
    84 | January 30, 2013 10:04 am

    @ lobo91:
    The stupid is strong with that one.

    Reminds me of the “man in the street” type interviews local news likes to do on just about any subject. The ones they air are usually a hoot / sad. Makes me wonder what they didn’t choose to air.


  82. 85 | January 30, 2013 10:04 am

    @ Rodan:

    $1.6 trillion more debt just last year, but spending is OK. We just need to raise taxes more, nevermind that the economy would crash if we raised taxes enough to cover the spending. What economic geniuses these Liberals are.


  83. 86 | January 30, 2013 10:06 am

    The rather enormous headline in the Louisville Courier-Journal, Kentucky’s largest newspaper:

    Majority in Kentucky supports many of Obama’s proposals for ADDITIONAL GUN CONTROL (emphasis theirs)

    Maybe in Louisville, but Kentucky at-large? Not bloody likely. This is a perfect example of the metro-rural political schism that’s widening by the day in this country.


  84. 87 | January 30, 2013 10:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    Heritage Foundation yesterday advised that the Sandy spending bill just signed by Obama has now spend all monies that will be collected this year through the tax increase “on the rich” plus another $10 billion.


  85. waldensianspirit
    88 | January 30, 2013 10:08 am

    @ MacDuff:
    Where do the city people think their food comes from?


  86. 89 | January 30, 2013 10:09 am

    @ Rodan:

    My guess is Mary Landrieu is enjoying her final term in the Senate.


  87. 90 | January 30, 2013 10:09 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    Where do the city people think their food comes from?

    Kroger.


  88. 91 | January 30, 2013 10:10 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Where do the city people think their food comes from?

    The grocery store. Duh!

    ///////


  89. 92 | January 30, 2013 10:10 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ Carolina Girl:

    I just looked at several progressive blogs. They are saying we need more spending to get the economy booming. They do not get it!


  90. 93 | January 30, 2013 10:10 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Safeway. Raley’s. Von’s. Piggly Wiggly. All they know.


  91. 94 | January 30, 2013 10:11 am

    @ Rodan:

    Compare this economic recovery with that of Reagan’s. And Reagan had runaway inflation, a prime rate hovering at over 10% when he took office. First this he did was to cut taxes and cut spending. And the damn economy took off.


  92. Speranza
    95 | January 30, 2013 10:11 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    I just looked at several progressive blogs. They are saying we need more spending to get the economy booming. They do not get it!

    Alan “Feret Face” Colmes says that the initial “stimulus” was too small.


  93. 96 | January 30, 2013 10:12 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Gun control will term limit her out if the Democrats keep pushing it. Did you see where Harry Reid declined to endorse Feinstein’s Bill? It’ll be interesting to see what the Senate does there, but it is all Kabuki Theater, because there’s no way it passes the House.


  94. 97 | January 30, 2013 10:13 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    By this point in the Reagan boom, he had 10 million real jobs created with an expanding labor force participation. The Boomers were in their 30′s and 20′s.


  95. 98 | January 30, 2013 10:14 am

    @ Speranza:

    Unreal.


  96. Speranza
    99 | January 30, 2013 10:15 am

    @ Rodan:
    They are full Euro Social Democrats in every sense of the word. They think they are invulnerable to the consequences.


  97. 100 | January 30, 2013 10:15 am

    @ Rodan:

    Here’s a good pic I grabbed earlier that may be good for that Zimbabwe thread…..


  98. Speranza
    101 | January 30, 2013 10:16 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    By this point in the Reagan boom, he had 10 million real jobs created with an expanding labor force participation. The Boomers were in their 30′s and 20′s.

    Yeah but what about “jobs saved”. /


  99. citizen_q
    102 | January 30, 2013 10:16 am

    @ Rodan:
    Why don’t they just print more money and gives us all checks? ///


  100. Speranza
    103 | January 30, 2013 10:16 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Here’s a good pic I grabbed earlier that may be good for that Zimbabwe thread…..

    Is Robert Mugabe still there?


  101. 104 | January 30, 2013 10:17 am

    @ Speranza:

    Colmes is so delusional it sits on him like a halo.

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’m not believing the whole “66% favor amnesty” either -- I know liberals who voted for Obama in California that are not in favor of nothing short of deportation for illegals. Maybe if you polled the ABC newsroom, but nationally? No, I don’t think so.

    In taking on the NRA, Obama is dealing with an organization he cannot “Alinsky” into submission. The NRA doesn’t give a crap what the media thinks of them, they’re used to being vilified. I don’t think Feinstein’s bill will pass the House, and I don’t think that it’ll make it out of the Senate.


  102. Speranza
    105 | January 30, 2013 10:17 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Gun control will term limit her out if the Democrats keep pushing it. Did you see where Harry Reid declined to endorse Feinstein’s Bill? It’ll be interesting to see what the Senate does there, but it is all Kabuki Theater, because there’s no way it passes the House.

    Diane Feinstein and Patty Murray are the two dumbest members of the Senate.


  103. 106 | January 30, 2013 10:18 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:

    By this point in the Regan boom, he had 10 million Real Jobs created with an expanding labor force participation. The Boomers were in their 30′s and 20′s.

    …and trust me, times were good- right up until the late 90s when Bubba’s Bubble started showing some signs of stress.


  104. The Osprey
    107 | January 30, 2013 10:18 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    Looking at the larger picture, does anyone else see parallels to the symbology of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”?

    Scarfe drew the illustrations for that album and dd the animations in the movie, IIRC.


  105. 108 | January 30, 2013 10:20 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Is Robert Mugabe still there?

    Yeah. Alas, someone has yet to put a slug in his forehead.


  106. lobo91
    109 | January 30, 2013 10:21 am

    Speaking of “Weekend at Bernie’s,” the Dems just trotted out Gabby Giffords to make a plea for new gun laws at a Senate Judiciary committee hearing.

    These people have no shame.


  107. 110 | January 30, 2013 10:22 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Speaking of “Weekend at Bernie’s,” the Dems just trotted out Gabby Giffords to make a plea for new gun laws at a Senate Judiciary committee hearing.

    These people have no shame.

    She’s the new James Brady.


  108. 111 | January 30, 2013 10:23 am

    @ lobo91:

    They never have. They were talking about their plans to demolish the second amendment before those poor children had been taken away from the school.

    Meanwhile, that evil, callous organization the NRA takes smear after smear, hit after hit for a week and waits a respectful length of time to respond and are STILL called “unfeeling.”


  109. 112 | January 30, 2013 10:24 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Guess who we’re not hearing a lot about? The parent of one of the children who was killed at Newtown who has stated “gun control laws wouldn’t have prevented this.” They’re trotting out a lot of gun-control happy Newtown residents but failing to mention that none of them are people who lost children that day.


  110. 113 | January 30, 2013 10:25 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Here’s a good pic I grabbed earlier that may be good for that Zimbabwe thread…..

    Updated the thread with the pic!


  111. citizen_q
    114 | January 30, 2013 10:26 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    These people have no shame.

    Of course not, they are democrats. Say what you will about the GOP, I don’t see them acting so cynically.

    Didn’t they keep Giffords around just long enough so that she could vote for embalm-a-care?


  112. 115 | January 30, 2013 10:26 am

    @ MacDuff:

    Yes I caught the late 90′s boom. We will never have good economic times like we did in the 80′s and 90′s again. The Democrats even if the economy continues to contract will probably have power for the next few election cycles until the GOP gets its act together.

    My generation was robbed!


  113. coldwarrior
    116 | January 30, 2013 10:27 am

    Speranza wrote:

    I refuse to buy any Heinz product because of Tah-ray-zah!

    she and the senator kerry get 0 money from the heinz products.


  114. coldwarrior
    117 | January 30, 2013 10:29 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    that is the 1130 post with added articles


  115. lobo91
    118 | January 30, 2013 10:30 am

    Grassley just said that Obama “turned the Constitution on its head” with his calls for new gun laws.

    About time someone said it.


  116. The Osprey
    119 | January 30, 2013 10:30 am

    Speranza wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Here’s a good pic I grabbed earlier that may be good for that Zimbabwe thread…..

    Is Robert Mugabe still there?

    Sadly yes. And the ANC in South Africa is following in his footsteps.


  117. Speranza
    120 | January 30, 2013 10:31 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    I refuse to buy any Heinz product because of Tah-ray-zah!

    she and the senator kerry get 0 money from the heinz products.

    Thank God she never became First Lady.


  118. Speranza
    121 | January 30, 2013 10:31 am

    The Osprey wrote:

    Sadly yes. And the ANC in South Africa is following in his footsteps.

    Can’t say I am surprised.


  119. coldwarrior
    122 | January 30, 2013 10:32 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Compare this economic recovery with that of Reagan’s. And Reagan had runaway inflation, a prime rate hovering at over 10% when he took office. First this he did was to cut taxes and cut spending. And the damn economy took off.

    the bigger thanks for that goes to fed chair paul volker.

    he broke the back of inflation in a move so audacious and stiff-spined that it still resonates today and is the only reason we dont have 20% inflation right now.


  120. coldwarrior
    123 | January 30, 2013 10:34 am

    Speranza wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    I refuse to buy any Heinz product because of Tah-ray-zah!
    she and the senator kerry get 0 money from the heinz products.

    Thank God she never became First Lady.

    john heinz kept her in line pretty well. she wasnt always this goofy and lefty. but hey, cut her some slack, she is an african american after all.


  121. 124 | January 30, 2013 10:35 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I had quite forgotten about Volker’s moves. Unless I missed it (and you might know if he had), I was always hoping he would write extensively about how that economic turnaround was effected. It would certainly be a great and educational read.


  122. 125 | January 30, 2013 10:35 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Moved up to 11.


  123. 126 | January 30, 2013 10:36 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    I can’t see what she saw in Kerry. We all know what he saw in her.


  124. 127 | January 30, 2013 10:36 am

    @ Speranza:
    @ coldwarrior:

    Remember her convention speech talking about Venus, Mars and the Stars?

    :lol:


  125. 128 | January 30, 2013 10:38 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Money is a great aphrodesiac to some people…


  126. The Osprey
    129 | January 30, 2013 10:39 am

    @ Rodan:

    All of us were robbed…I was born at the tail end of the baby boom, and I will probably be sharing kibble with the cat
    to feed myself after I retire at age 78…Either that or shooting squirrels for food if I can still see and
    .22LR ammo ever shows up on the shelves again.


  127. 130 | January 30, 2013 10:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’ll never turn it down, but I’d certainly never marry for it. Kerry isn’t even one step above gigolo -- he’s a SERIAL gigolo.


  128. 131 | January 30, 2013 10:41 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Hey -- the Duck Dynasty guys have a great recipe for squirrel -- even includes breading and dumplings!


  129. 132 | January 30, 2013 10:45 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Yeah, very true. We all have been screwed!


  130. 133 | January 30, 2013 10:45 am

    Even in New York Gun COntrol hurts your popularity:

    He’s still well above 50% in deep blue New York, but this surely is an ominous sign for the anti-Second Amendment types out there.

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo‘s approval rating slid under 60 percent in the wake of changes to the state’s gun laws, a new poll released Wednesday shows, but Empire State voters still approve of the Democrat’s job performance by a more-than-2-to-1 margin.

    A new Quinnipiac University poll shows Cuomo’s approval rating down to 59 percent, a marked decrease from the 74-percent approval Cuomo recorded last month. Twenty-eight percent of voters now disapprove of Cuomo’s job performance, up from only 13 percent in December.

    In an interview with WGDJ-AM in Albany on Tuesday, Cuomo reportedly told the New York Post‘s Fred Dicker that he expected his poll numbers to drop after passing the gun measures. “We know what the polls say on this because we’ve done it,” he said.

    Cuomo’s approval rating fell most sharply among Republicans, from 68 percent in December, to 44 percent now. Among Democrats, it slipped from 82 percent to 74 percent. And among independents, it dropped from 70 percent to 54 percent. The decrease in Cuomo’s approval rating among men was 20 percentage points, more than double the 9-point decrease among women.

    The slide was also more pronounced among Upstate voters, from 68 percent in December, to just 51 percent now. In New York City, his approval rating fell from 80 percent to 66 percent, and in suburban areas outside the city, it is down from 74 percent to 64 percent.

    Meanwhile, a gun owner group is suing over the hastily passed and poorly thought out guns laws rushed through in the dark of night.

    I don’t see how New York’s new law gets past the current Supreme Court. If it can, the Second Amendment is essentially meaningless. I guess it’ll depend on how Justice Roberts votes.


  131. The Osprey
    134 | January 30, 2013 10:47 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Portuguese from Mozambique or Angola, IIRC?

    Like the guys who founded Nando’s.


  132. 135 | January 30, 2013 10:50 am

    Be back in a bit…need to start dinner prep- “Rum Marinated Pork Chops” Sounds yummy, and it’s only 5 points on the Weight Watchers scale.


  133. 136 | January 30, 2013 10:52 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I guess it’ll depend on how Justice Roberts votes.

    That is what I am worried about!


  134. coldwarrior
    137 | January 30, 2013 10:53 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I had quite forgotten about Volker’s moves. Unless I missed it (and you might know if he had), I was always hoping he would write extensively about how that economic turnaround was effected. It would certainly be a great and educational read.

    i’ll have to do a saturday lecture on that. maybe for this weekend


  135. The Osprey
    138 | January 30, 2013 10:54 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    Hey — the Duck Dynasty guys have a great recipe for squirrel — even includes breading and dumplings!

    I’ll have to check that out.


  136. coldwarrior
    139 | January 30, 2013 10:57 am

    @ The Osprey:

    mozambique


  137. Speranza
    140 | January 30, 2013 11:14 am

    MacDuff wrote:

    Be back in a bit…need to start dinner prep- “Rum Marinated Pork Chops” Sounds yummy, and it’s only 5 points on the Weight Watchers scale.

    Isn’t it a bit early?


  138. 141 | January 30, 2013 11:14 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    That would be outstanding! Now that football’s over, I should try to find something to write about. It’s not like I’m ever at a loss for words or something like that.


  139. 142 | January 30, 2013 11:45 am

    Speranza wrote:

    MacDuff wrote:

    Be back in a bit…need to start dinner prep- “Rum Marinated Pork Chops” Sounds yummy, and it’s only 5 points on the Weight Watchers scale.

    Isn’t it a bit early?

    Not to get the chops in the marinade…the longer the better.


  140. Speranza
    143 | January 30, 2013 6:14 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    MacDuff wrote:
    Be back in a bit…need to start dinner prep- “Rum Marinated Pork Chops” Sounds yummy, and it’s only 5 points on the Weight Watchers scale.
    Isn’t it a bit early?

    Not to get the chops in the marinade…the longer the better.

    Gotcha.


  141. Fritz Katz
    144 | January 30, 2013 8:04 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Is Robert Mugabe still there?

    Yes. For 10 more years!

    Just like they’ll amend our constitution so Obama can go beyond two terms.


  142. The Osprey
    145 | January 30, 2013 9:04 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    mozambique

    Two in the chest, one in the beak!


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