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Ben Carson: US Like Ancient Rome; Obama Not My Target
World-renown pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Ben Carson told conservative radio and television host Armstrong Williams on Friday that his attacks on the nation’s ills in his speech at the National Prayer Breakfast this week were not directed at President Barack Obama.
In his first interview since upstaging the president at the event on Thursday, Carson, director of pediatric neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore said his comments were “directed at the situation that is going on in our nation and how we can solve it.”
“It’s not an attack on anybody, but it’s saying there are logical solutions for our problems and there are things that we can all get behind — be we right wing, be we left wing,” Carson said Friday on Williams show “The Right Side.”
“It doesn’t matter, because we need to do the things that will benefit the entire society and get us moving in the right direction. We need to be able to have open discussions.”
Opening his remarks with quotations from the Old Testament books of Proverbs and Second Chronicles, the neurosurgeon blasted the nation’s $16.4 trillion debt, its cumbersome tax system — and its “inefficient” health care system.
President Obama showed no reaction to Carson’s attacks, simply sitting stoically at the dais table. First Lady Michelle Obama also was in attendance.
“Our deficit is a big problem,” said Carson, who last spoke at the National Prayer Breakfast in 1997. “Sixteen-and-a-half trillion dollars. You think that’s not a lot of money? Count one number per second. You know how long it would take to count to 16 trillion? 507,000 years. More than half-a-million years to get there.”
“What about our taxation system?” he continued. “So complex, there is no one who can possibly comply with every jot and tittle of our tax system. If I wanted to get you, I can get you on a tax issue.
‘It doesn’t make any sense. What we need to do is come up with something that’s simple.”
He then discussed the biblical principle of tithing.
“God has given us a system. He didn’t say, “If you crops fail, don’t give me a tithe.’ He didn’t say, ‘If you get a bumper crop, give me a triple-tithe.’ So, there must be something inherently fair about proportionality.
“You make $10 billion, you put in a billion. You make $10, you put in $1,” he said to applause from the audience.
“But some people say, ‘That’s not fair because it doesn’t hurt the guy who made $10 billion as much as the guy who made $10’ — but where does it say that you have the hurt the guy? He just put a billion dollars in the pot. We don’t need to hurt him.
“It’s that kind of thinking that has resulted in 602 banks in the Cayman Islands,” Carson said. “That money needs to be back here — building our infrastructure and creating jobs. We’re smart enough to figure out how to do that.”
As for health care, he began, “We need to have good health care for everybody, but we have to figure out efficient ways to do it.”
Carson’s solution: “When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account (HSA) to which money can be contributed — pretax — from the time you’re born ’til the time you die.
“When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you’re 85 years old and you’ve got six diseases, you’re not trying to spend up everything,” he added. “You’re happy to pass it on and there’s nobody talking about death panels.”
He added: “For the people who are indigent who don’t have any money, we can make contributions to their HSA each month because we already have this huge pot of money. Instead of sending it to some bureaucracy, let’s put it in their HSAs. Now, they have some control over their own health care.”
In his interview with Williams on Friday, Carson said likened the United States to the ancient Roman civilization.
“The Roman Empire was very, very much like us,” he told Williams. “They lost their moral core, their sense of values in terms of who they were. And after all of those things converged together, they just went right down the tubes very quickly.
“When you look at America, it’s not too hard to see great similarities. We’ve spread ourselves all over the place. We have incredible expenses. We don’t adjust — and, consequently, we expand the deficit and the debt and entitlement programs, and not living within our means and not adjusting programs and not adjusting people’s expectations.
“When it comes to wanting things, people don’t really care about the national debt,” Carson said. “They don’t really care about the future; they just care about, ‘Give me my check so I can eat next week.’
“That’s understandable, but we have not created the right kinds of expectations — and we really need to start doing that or we will face a similar fate.”
I saw him on Hannity last night.
How many doctors are behind obamacare? I asked my doctor about it…and he said flat out it is socialism. Period.
Lily wrote:
as soon as Ocare passed, my primary doc closed up shop and went to work for UNM…he didn’t want any part of it
The AMA jumped on board, but they represent only 17% of doctors.
I have not talked to one Doc that supports ObamaCare.
Watch First Lady Michelle. She knew a great man was speaking and was internally wishing her man was at least half of that man
This is from Obamas Acceptance Speech. In a moment of clarity he admitted that
he ws not capable of doing a damn thing abo
@ RIX:
oops
I’m waiting for Maxine Waters to call him an Uncle Tom
And what the hell is that databse she’s talking about?
Thee Dems would never exploit a tragedy./
RIX wrote:
Obama’s quote from that link: “our path is harder” and “our road is longer.”
Mao Zendong’s quote on self-reliance and arduous struggle: “The Chinese revolution is great, but the road after the revolution will be longer, the work greater and more arduous”.
Any questions?
huckfunn wrote:
Yeah. How the hell did you manage to come up with that?
[good work!]
I like this guys health care ideas. Experienced and innovative and comprehensive and simple. Everything obama care is not. He need to work as a democrat through to get traction.
@ huckfunn:
whoa…nice snag
@ eaglesoars:
@ heysoos:
Mao’s writings are filled with analogies to paths, struggles, roads and marches. It’s also a safe bet that Obama and his speech writers are students of Mao. I just Googled Mao Xedong “our path is harder” and “our road is longer.” BINGO!
How dare you disrespect Charles Foster Johnson!
You owe him an apology, flowers & large bag of Cheetos.
@ huckfunn:
Oops; I forgot the link. Quotations from Mao.
@ huckfunn: Obama has probably logged more life hours studying Mao and the Chinese revolution than he has studying George Washington and the American revolution.
Not really a shock, is it.
The Obamas had a Mao Christmas ornament.
huckfunn wrote:
A Chinese lady I worked with insisted he was a very spiritual man. For a very long time I couldn’t figure out what she was saying until other things she would say lit the bulb. She believes striving to become a god was very spiritual and commendable
@ darkwords: Someone should pose him that question. Which has been more substantial for world freedom? The Chinese Revolution or the American revolution. Only a muslim would see that as a window to lie.
@ 19 waldensianspirit: If his target God was Chuck Norris I might agree with her. Otherwise he was just a dang fool.
@ 14 huckfunn: See you are smarter than the CNN and FOX and ABC and NBC and CBS talking heads and staff combined. None of them combined are wise enough to even look for that.
darkwords wrote:
You set a very low bar for me.
huckfunn wrote:
heh. You and Anita Dunn.
@ darkwords:
It also helped me understand why she couldn’t grasp my value system
All Romney really had to do was play this song over and over everywhere he saw The OBama say “NOW!”
The telephone was ringin’ and they told me it was Chairman Mao… Little Feat with slide surprise from Mick Taylor.
huckfunn wrote:
And I hope when the media picks up on what you’ve researched and found you will get credit.
Obama looked like an emperor with the uneasy feeling he just might be naked
@ huckfunn:
that song made it onto Waiting For Columbus…nice duet, and a rare vid
Discussing these things with actors is so much more productive than talking to actual mental health professionals, after all…
//
lobo91 wrote:
I can see why Biden steers clear of professionals
song_and_dance_man wrote:
Thanks. I just gave IBD a heads up. I suppose I should Twitter it, but I don’t know how to twitter, twaddle or tweet. I know how to toot.
@ lobo91:
The Dems once had Sissy Spacek & Jessica Lang testify about
farm issues, because they were both in movies about farms.
Here is a real Nemo problem that Deval Patrick should call out the national guard on. Instead of banning traffic. This is what he created. NSFW
RIX wrote:
This makes as much sense.
@ 34 huckfunn: I’ll tweet it to Malkin.
Which is none.
Later sports fans.
heysoos wrote:
The original studio version was on the album Sailing Shoes. I think Lowell George had left the room by the time Waiting for Columbus came out.
@ huckfunn:
Sorry, I couldn’t fit in your name on that tweet Huck, but if it gets a response, you will get proper credit.
lobo91 wrote:
Hmmm… White students need not apply? Raaaaacist!
@ darkwords:
Dooood, what is your tweeter name?
RIX wrote:
who was the actress that testified about alar on apples or something? Streep?
To be fair, I think Spacek actually does live on a farm here in VVirginia.
@ huckfunn:
RIX wrote:
They also had the renowned scientist and nutritionist Meryl Streep provide her expert opinion on alar treatment of apples.
/What are we doing to our children!?
Calo wrote:
Don’t quite know how all that works, but thanks all the same.
darkwords wrote:
Is Twitchy the same as Twitter?
@ Calo:
I’m not everyone’s cup of tea on twitter. I get a little more libertarian there and less conservative. I get disowned a lot by relatives that don’t know it is me. lol Whether they be liberal or conservative. I view twitter as a place to work out my personal angst.
But this is me. ScottCable2
huckfunn wrote:
WFC was recorded in 1977, Lowell crashed in 1979…it is indeed the same song, altho Taylor never got credit for his part…the vid did not show up until just a few years ago as I recall
@ huckfunn:
No, Twitchy is Michele Malkin’s site that watches Twitter, or tweets.
Kind of like DoD watches and mocks LGF.
Funny stuff.
I think the dems also had Sally Field testify on farm issues as well because she played some widowed farm wife in some movie.
@ huckfunn:
That is just Michelle Malkins teams account. has a lot of reader. My account is pretty light on followers.
Twitter is just newsfeed essentially that you can personalize. It works in the browser. http://www.twitter.com. You can be anonymous. You just favorite other @people you like to hear and then they appear in your newsfeed. Twitter has more spontaneous content and faster spreading content then blog or a website. And a lot of ugly trolls. If you click a tweet it will expand and show you the thread of the conversation.
@ darkwords:
And what i call a newsfeed here is what twitter and facebook call timelines. I don’t do facebook because they want my personal info and pic etc.
@ darkwords:
Followed.
Yes, I mocked CuriousLurker a bit last night.
@ 53 Calo:
And I think Malkin is probably one of the people who understand twitter well and uses it politically really well.
@ darkwords:
Agreed, darkwords.
@ 57 Calo:
I’m fine if people give me crap on twitter. I need a thicker skin to survive in the social world. What is apparent there is that I follow a lot of strippers, a lot of conservatives, and CBS survivor. lol That is like oil and gasoline waiting for a match. That’s more personal info than I put into the blog here. I am introverted by genetics. lol
@ darkwords:
LOL, you intrigue me, in a good way.
I love a little variety in my life, you are the kick I need to see some days.
@ 37 lobo91: I sent your comment about bring pro gun witnesses to congressional hearings to gop.com
I dislike their web site so I always give them issues about it. So hopefully they can separate out the good from the bad.
I’ve asked them at least 4 times to direct one of their minions to join the blog here and the one at pjmedia. Never happens though. To me that just means we are on completely different tracks in life.
@ 61 Calo: lol ditto. Your life story reminds me a lot of my old LA girlfriend. But her parting words where ” If we every inhabit the same airspace at an airport, I’m going to kick your ass”. I think she meant it. So I travel wary.
darkwords wrote:
You don’t know if they lurk…………
@ 64 eaglesoars: True. Probably a lot of lurkers.
ok, to get back to the subject…..
what is the ‘authentic’ black community and its white liberal enablers going to do to discredit Dr. Carson in order to protect their cult-god Obama?
I’m tuning into Morning Joe on Monday just to see Mika prostrate herself on the alter.
Nice to see that actor Kevin Sorbo (Hercules) likes Dr. Carson
eaglesoars wrote:
90% of the black community has no clue about the doc or what he said…to bad, he makes a fine roll model
heysoos wrote:
Well, I don’t know how you cover the prayer breakfast (which is all BS IMO anyway) and ignore Carson.
OTOH, the WHITE enablers sure as hell do know………
So you think he’ll be ignored?
eaglesoars wrote:
I certainly hope not…he’s a sensation, and there are many more like him…people like them need to step up…the black community will heal itself from within, if at all…but the MSM owns America right now and they have to want what’s best also, usually they don’t
@ eaglesoars:
You called it. It will start on Morning Joe.
@ heysoos:
@ eaglesoars:
Notice the political leanings of Dorner is not being mentioned? Notice the media is not talking much about this guy no more? Notice the media is not talking about that Taliban supporter who wanted to fare,m the Right by bombing bank of America?
The media is more blatant than ever.
Rodan wrote:
I think heysoos might be right.
Morning Joe won’t cover it.
But I’ll watch anyway. Brent Bozell can’t be everywhere.
@ eaglesoars:
That’s true it might be covered up.
@ eaglesoars:
Hey! Test-driven any of the films yet?
eaglesoars wrote:
As far as the Mushrooms are concerned; if the lame stream obamamedia doesn’t report it, it didn’t happen.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Nope. Sometimes I can be a bit anal. I have certain things I have to watch/read/do before I allow myself to continue on. In the meantime, I collect and catalog.
On my current ‘watch’ list is all the episodes of that televison show 24, which I never got to see. I’m on season 7, episode 4. Next in the catalog is McGinty.
You don’t want to know about the ‘read’ list. Current is “Taste of War” ” and “Gulag” (they have to be understood together). Next up is “The Naked Communist”.
On my “do’ list is organizing new computers for the office and preparing just general household stuff (all my spring cleaning is done -- pantry, closets, kitchen cabinets etc.)
I really appreciate your recos -- please don’t think that because I don’t follow up right away they are wasted.
*smooch*
@ eaglesoars:
Don’t forget the first three seasons of Justified
@ eaglesoars:
Hey, whatever works for you. I’m just interested to hear your views, when you get around to it.
if I had to clean my closet before I watched a movie…well…I’d probably never see a movie…living alone has certain advantages
lobo91 wrote:
Oh I’m glad you’re here. I’ve missed the last 2 weeks of Justified (and NCIS) -- we were at the animal hospital w/the beagle. If/when you have time would you fill me in. In order not to derail the thread, the admins have my permission to give you my email.
You know, Netflix has saved my sanity. Up at all hours w/Molly because she can’t sleep and I just take us both and the laptop down to the family room to let Hubby rest until Molly can fall asleep on the sofa. I’ve never been a television person, more of a book person…but there is some really good stuff out there.
@ eaglesoars:
I have admin priveleges myself.
lobo91 wrote:
what a pimp…he was spoon fed…fact check his ass
heysoos wrote:
Don’t be silly. I watch the movie WHILE I clean the closets. 15 mins on, 15 mins off. Makes everything tolerable and nothing is a stretch. Pacing is a lot of mgmt.
eaglesoars wrote:
gurlz rool
Wilbury’s
Handle Me With Care
for all of us
@ eaglesoars:
Justified episode 4 recap
Episode 5 recap
@ eaglesoars:
NCIS recaps:
Episode 13
Episode 14
lobo91 wrote:
thanks! bookmarked. gotta go. Molly the Beagle is puking again -- something that doesn’t come in 15 min increments.
I don’t want to belabor anything, but for those of you who pray and for those of you who don’t but just understand the power of good thoughts…
Please send them her way. She has terminal liver cancer and melanoma in her mouth was just diagnosed last week -- surgery for that is next week. She’s almost 11 yrs old -- in April if she makes it -- and is the epitome of a ‘hilarious in your face’ dog. She has been the joy of our life all these years and we just want her passing to be as easy as possible.
Thanks
Now for the paper towels and the powder stuff….
@ eaglesoars:
So sorry to hear that. Definitely prayers your way.
@ eaglesoars:
@eagles, just a quick question… why surgery next week?
Is it for you or for Molly?
I have to ask, are you prolonging her suffering? I really don’t know, only you know that answer.
@ Calo:
Hi Calo,
stopping by to shut down all the windows.
The surgery is for Molly. The growth is on her lower left lip but fortunately not involving the bone. She doesn’t even know it’s there. I found it by accident Sunday before last as we were playing -- I had her on her back, tickling her and her lips/mouth fell back in laughter (yes, dogs laugh). I had her to the hospital on the following Monday -- i.e., the next day -- and the x-rays did not show any spread/mestasis.
The liver cancer will kill her. When she was diagnosed last Sept she was already more tumor than liver and it was in ALL her liver nodes. Not operable.
The lodestar is her quality of life and the baseline for that is how does she want to eat? And is she in pain?
I have had to give Molly pain med exactly once -- and her docs have calibrated her meds to control her nausea, etc.
This growth could outgrow its blood supply, rotting in her mouth, etc. -- I could go on.
Your question -- is Molly’s suffering being prolonged -- is well-meant. knowing you from your postings here.
Molly will NEVER suffer. She’s nauseated sometimes, she sometimes doesn’t want to eat, sometimes I have to get a fever down -- but suffer? Never. She has the best doctors in the world -- that is not an exaggeration. Someone once said to me “You will never regret letting them go one day too early. You will always regret letting them go one day too late”.
I won’t let that happen to her, I would give my life.
Here is the medical community taking care of her.
Southpaws. Sharon Shaefor is her primary oncologist.
@ eaglesoars:
I’m so sorry.
Prayers and love from Bumr50, Mrs. Bumr50, and BaileyBumr50.
@ eaglesoars:
Thank you for your reply eagles.
It just is a question I ask others and even myself when nursing along an ill pet or even a family member, for that matter. I’ve seen a lot done in the guise of modern medicine to prolong life at the expense of quality of life.
I know how much you love your dog, Molly.
And, I am thankful you are such a wonderful “mom” to her.