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Ezra Levant & Pamela Geller: The Boston Globe leads the jihad against Robert Spencer

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Filed under CAIR, Censorship, Free Speech, Islamic Supremacism, Muslim Brotherhood at February 10th, 2013 - 8:15 pm

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Published on Feb 7, 2013 by SDAMatt2a

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video
Boston Globe reporter persuades Catholic conference to cancel Robert Spencer appearance

Things have certainly changed at Holy Cross College in Worcester, Massachusetts. From the renowned Catholic writer G. K. Chesterton getting a hearty laugh in the video above by saying, “I may not be much of a crusader, but at least I am not a Mohammedan,” to the execrable, supremely arrogant Islamic supremacist pseudo-academic Caner K. Dagli, it is a steep descent indeed. (Thanks to Michael Coren for sending me the Chesterton video.)

However, we are keeping the pressure on for the truth in Worcester. The Bishop of Worcester, Robert McManus, canceled my appearance at a Catholic Men’s Conference in Worcester next month after getting pressure from a Boston Globe reporter, Lisa J. Wangsness, and a jihad terror-aligned Islamic supremacist, Abdul Cader Asmal.

I am extraordinarily grateful to everyone who has signed the petition that is circulating asking Bishop McManus to allow me to speak after all. At very least, you are showing that we are not going passively to accept the demonization and marginalization of people working to defend freedom and human rights.

Petition to Worcester bishop to reinstate Robert Spencer talk tops 2,000 signatures


Ezra Levant is a real hero of free speech and of the counterjihad. Canadians, please work to keep him on the air. Sun News needs your help!


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212 Responses to “Ezra Levant & Pamela Geller: The Boston Globe leads the jihad against Robert Spencer”
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  1. heysoos
    1 | February 10, 2013 8:19 pm

    she doesn’t NEED so much hair


  2. Prebanned
    2 | February 10, 2013 8:21 pm

    Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Right to keep and bear arms.
    It’s what used to be America.


  3. Suki Wong
    3 | February 10, 2013 8:23 pm

    @ heysoos:
    She owns seven hairbrushes, so, yes she does need that much hair.

    And you? Do you even have enough hair left for your comb? :smile:


  4. heysoos
    4 | February 10, 2013 8:23 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Right to keep and bear arms.
    It’s what used to be America.

    that’s almost a myth at this point


  5. heysoos
    5 | February 10, 2013 8:24 pm

    Suki Wong wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    She owns seven hairbrushes, so, yes she does need that much hair.
    And you? Do you even have enough hair left for your comb?

    I saw 2 or 3 hairs last year…


  6. brookly red
    6 | February 10, 2013 8:25 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Right to keep and bear arms.
    It’s what used to be America.

    If the Church wants our support against the onslaught from the left,it would serve them well not to bind our hands.


  7. Prebanned
    7 | February 10, 2013 8:25 pm

    @ heysoos:
    That is what they call it, the Second Amendment Myth.


  8. Suki Wong
    8 | February 10, 2013 8:26 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Nose hairs don’t count, honey.


  9. song_and_dance_man
    9 | February 10, 2013 8:26 pm

    STFUASTFD is the modus of all thug-huggers.


  10. brookly red
    10 | February 10, 2013 8:27 pm

    Suki Wong wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Nose hairs don’t count, honey.

    /well they are long enough he can put them behind his ear for a combover


  11. song_and_dance_man
    11 | February 10, 2013 8:28 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    If the Church wants our support against the onslaught from the left,it would serve them well not to bind our hands.

    The problem is not all ‘churches’ have the same agenda. Some have lost their way.


  12. heysoos
    12 | February 10, 2013 8:28 pm

    Suki Wong wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Nose hairs don’t count, honey.

    actually I have gobs of thick, silvery gray hairs..I spend most of my time selling autographs…life is good


  13. eaglesoars
    13 | February 10, 2013 8:28 pm

    how does a friggin newspaper reporter get so much juice?


  14. brookly red
    14 | February 10, 2013 8:29 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    If the Church wants our support against the onslaught from the left,it would serve them well not to bind our hands.

    The problem is not all ‘churches’ have the same agenda. Some have lost their way.

    so why then petition them as opposed to denounce them?


  15. Prebanned
    15 | February 10, 2013 8:29 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Prebanned wrote:
    Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Right to keep and bear arms.
    It’s what used to be America.
    If the Church wants our support against the onslaught from the left,it would serve them well not to bind our hands.

    How are you hindered by a church?


  16. Prebanned
    16 | February 10, 2013 8:30 pm

    @ Prebanned:
    OK I read the post again


  17. song_and_dance_man
    17 | February 10, 2013 8:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    /well they are long enough he can put them behind his ear for a combover

    They can go with a double stash. Imagine a dude with a twin Dali-like waxed hair protrusions.


  18. coldwarrior
    18 | February 10, 2013 8:30 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Right to keep and bear arms.
    It’s what used to be America.

    personal liberty, small government, state’s rights.


  19. brookly red
    19 | February 10, 2013 8:33 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Prebanned wrote:
    Free Speech, Religious Freedom, Right to keep and bear arms.
    It’s what used to be America.
    If the Church wants our support against the onslaught from the left,it would serve them well not to bind our hands.

    How are you hindered by a church?

    true… it is not an official act of the church. I stand corrected


  20. heysoos
    20 | February 10, 2013 8:33 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    /well they are long enough he can put them behind his ear for a combover
    They can go with a double stash. Imagine a dude with a twin Dali-like waxed hair protrusions.

    okay, for you I’ll try


  21. Prebanned
    21 | February 10, 2013 8:35 pm

    So many people are willfully blind about islam.
    It is unreal.


  22. brookly red
    22 | February 10, 2013 8:35 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    true… it is not an official act of the church. I stand corrected

    no wait… it was indeed the Bishop.


  23. 23 | February 10, 2013 8:35 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    You know the Catholic Church was at the forefront of fighting Islam for nearly a 1000 years. Where were American “Christians” when Lebanese Catholics were fighting Amal, Hizballah, The PLO and Syria in the 80′s?

    Don’t even play that game.

    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.


  24. song_and_dance_man
    24 | February 10, 2013 8:37 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    so why then petition them as opposed to denounce them?

    One reason I can see is for outreach and to reveal a truth to those within those bodies that might not have the chance to hear what Spencer has to say. Denouncement would set the congregants in the same position as the leaders and open the door for corporate rejection.
    .


  25. Lily
    25 | February 10, 2013 8:37 pm

    Suki Wong wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    She owns seven hairbrushes, so, yes she does need that much hair.
    And you? Do you even have enough hair left for your comb?

    This comment just reeks of jealously if you ask me Suki. Just my opinion. Hair jealously. Clean and clear. 8-)


  26. Prebanned
    26 | February 10, 2013 8:37 pm

    If you aren’t muslim, they are trying to kill you, resist them.
    If you are a muslim, they are trying to kill you, switch sides.


  27. coldwarrior
    27 | February 10, 2013 8:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    You know the Catholic Church was at the forefront of fighting Islam for nearly a 1000 years. Where were American “Christians” when Lebanese Catholics were fighting Amal, Hizballah, The PLO and Syria in the 80′s?
    Don’t even play that game.
    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.

    the orthodox church has been fighting islam since 700 AD.


  28. brookly red
    28 | February 10, 2013 8:38 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    So many people are willfully blind about islam.
    It is unreal.

    “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”
    Baudelaire


  29. 29 | February 10, 2013 8:38 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yup!


  30. heysoos
    30 | February 10, 2013 8:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    You know the Catholic Church was at the forefront of fighting Islam for nearly a 1000 years. Where were American “Christians” when Lebanese Catholics were fighting Amal, Hizballah, The PLO and Syria in the 80′s?
    Don’t even play that game.
    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.

    not gonna happen in our time bro…the ‘stunned’ level may take decades to win out…


  31. song_and_dance_man
    31 | February 10, 2013 8:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Don’t even play that game.

    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.

    It’s not a game. You have this notion that Christians are a fighting force that engages in carnal battles. Well, that table can be turned. What did Paul say?

    The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.

    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.


  32. The Osprey
    32 | February 10, 2013 8:45 pm

    This Lisa Wangsness broad from the Boston Globe is a real looker. No wonder she’s sympathetic to Islam, with a face like hers, you’d need two burkhas.


  33. Prebanned
    33 | February 10, 2013 8:47 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    So it is SFW? (safe for wife?)


  34. Prebanned
    34 | February 10, 2013 8:49 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    She looks absolutely miserable.


  35. brookly red
    35 | February 10, 2013 8:50 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    So it is SFW? (safe for wife?)

    yes but don’t show the family pet…


  36. heysoos
    36 | February 10, 2013 8:51 pm

    when Geller is more popular than Savoy Brown, I’ll kill myself…


  37. Lily
    37 | February 10, 2013 8:51 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Don’t even play that game.
    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.
    It’s not a game. You have this notion that Christians are a fighting force that engages in carnal battles. Well, that table can be turned. What did Paul say?
    The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.

    What did Jesus say ? There will be wars and rumors of wars. So yes it isn’t just carnal…it is spiritual but there are carnal wars too.


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | February 10, 2013 8:52 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.

    do expand on that, please (given the threat of islam in places like serbia, africa, and the caucasus.)

    i’d rather fight along side the serbs than cower in a pew.


  39. Prebanned
    39 | February 10, 2013 8:52 pm

    @ brookly red:
    She looks like she is ready to join Dorner.


  40. coldwarrior
    40 | February 10, 2013 8:53 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    She looks absolutely miserable.

    miserable, perfect adjective there.


  41. Lily
    41 | February 10, 2013 8:53 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Guess what …never heard of Savoy Brown….but have heard of Geller…better use something plastic.


  42. brookly red
    42 | February 10, 2013 8:56 pm

    Lily wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Don’t even play that game.
    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.
    It’s not a game. You have this notion that Christians are a fighting force that engages in carnal battles. Well, that table can be turned. What did Paul say?
    The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.

    What did Jesus say ? There will be wars and rumors of wars. So yes it isn’t just carnal…it is spiritual but there are carnal wars too.

    well this is not even to the level of a war this is a shoving match… in fact a carnal war could well be avoided if we do not allow ourselves to be shoved in our own home.


  43. 43 | February 10, 2013 8:57 pm

    I signed the petition (under my real name) without comment.

    I’ll comment here, though: last I heard, Spencer was a Catholic in good standing. There is no reason for him not to speak at a Catholic conference.


  44. coldwarrior
    44 | February 10, 2013 8:57 pm

    Four years into his tenure, the onetime critic of President George W. Bush finds himself cast as a present-day Mr. Bush, justifying the muscular application of force in the defense of the nation while detractors complain that he has sacrificed the country’s core values in the name of security.

    :lol:


  45. Prebanned
    45 | February 10, 2013 8:59 pm

    Jesus saves the slave and the soldier. I don’t think we are supposed to fight to spread the good news.
    I think we should fight to oppose islam because it is evil.


  46. Lily
    46 | February 10, 2013 8:59 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    Don’t even play that game.
    When American Christian Churches have a record of fighting Islam like Catholics do, get back to me with the lost their way crap.
    It’s not a game. You have this notion that Christians are a fighting force that engages in carnal battles. Well, that table can be turned. What did Paul say?
    The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.
    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.
    What did Jesus say ? There will be wars and rumors of wars. So yes it isn’t just carnal…it is spiritual but there are carnal wars too.
    well this is not even to the level of a war this is a shoving match… in fact a carnal war could well be avoided if we do not allow ourselves to be shoved in our own home.

    Very true….


  47. brookly red
    47 | February 10, 2013 9:01 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Jesus saves the slave and the soldier. I don’t think we are supposed to fight to spread the good news.
    I think we should fight to oppose islam because it is evil.

    this is not even fighting to oppose this is fighting to discuss the option of opposition…


  48. Alberta Oil Peon
    48 | February 10, 2013 9:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I wish I could have some of what they are smoking.


  49. Lily
    49 | February 10, 2013 9:02 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    Jesus saves the slave and the soldier. I don’t think we are supposed to fight to spread the good news.
    I think we should fight to oppose islam because it is evil.

    Well said ….evil comes in many forms.


  50. brookly red
    50 | February 10, 2013 9:03 pm

    This is Boston, not Ciaro. This is a bridge too far


  51. 51 | February 10, 2013 9:03 pm

    As for the issue of fighting Islam, the greater crusade is the crusade of persuasion. It shouldn’t have to come to physical force (unless, as in Spain and North Africa, the Islamic rulers are using their territory as a base for pirates and brigands, but that’s another story). It should be enough to lay out one’s arguments as to where Islam gets it wrong.

    If McManus isn’t going to do that, then he is making civilised discourse impossible. I don’t want to get into what generally happens when civilised arguments can’t be made.

    Someone needs to talk with McManus’s boss.


  52. Prebanned
    52 | February 10, 2013 9:04 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Prebanned wrote:
    Jesus saves the slave and the soldier. I don’t think we are supposed to fight to spread the good news.
    I think we should fight to oppose islam because it is evil.
    this is not even fighting to oppose this is fighting to discuss the option of opposition…

    Yeah, here in America we are trying to pretend evil is only a darker shade of gray.


  53. coldwarrior
    53 | February 10, 2013 9:04 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I wish I could have some of what they are smoking.

    if bush pulled this drone killing american citizens thing, the left would have exploded.


  54. brookly red
    54 | February 10, 2013 9:06 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Prebanned wrote:
    Jesus saves the slave and the soldier. I don’t think we are supposed to fight to spread the good news.
    I think we should fight to oppose islam because it is evil.
    this is not even fighting to oppose this is fighting to discuss the option of opposition…

    Yeah, here in America we are trying to pretend evil is only a darker shade of gray.

    all I need to know about Islam I learned on September 11th…


  55. brookly red
    55 | February 10, 2013 9:09 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I wish I could have some of what they are smoking.

    if bush pulled this drone killing american citizens thing, the left would have exploded.

    oh don’t worry the left is about to… it takes time but I live smack dab between 2 college campuses and I see the writings on the walls


  56. coldwarrior
    56 | February 10, 2013 9:10 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    It shouldn’t have to come to physical force (unless, as in Spain and North Africa, the Islamic rulers are using their territory as a base for pirates and brigands, but that’s another story).

    in serbia , now albania and kosovo are narco-terror islamic states.


  57. song_and_dance_man
    57 | February 10, 2013 9:13 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.

    do expand on that, please

    That being a Christian, warfare is not only engaged in with the weapons of this world. There are greater weapons available, but their effects are not readily known by the uninitiated,


  58. coldwarrior
    58 | February 10, 2013 9:13 pm

    @ brookly red:

    do tell!


  59. coldwarrior
    59 | February 10, 2013 9:14 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    uninitiated,

    who are they? the initiated.


  60. Suki Wong
    60 | February 10, 2013 9:17 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Meh!


  61. lobo91
    61 | February 10, 2013 9:17 pm

    I’m watching today’s Fox News Sunday, and just shaking my head.

    If I were Chris Wallace, I’d be in jail right now for strangling Nancy Pelosi.


  62. brookly red
    62 | February 10, 2013 9:18 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Don’t lose sight of what it means to be a Christian.

    do expand on that, please

    That being a Christian, warfare is not only engaged in with the weapons of this world. There are greater weapons available, but their effects are not readily known by the uninitiated,

    Ha! Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.


  63. brookly red
    63 | February 10, 2013 9:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    do tell!

    It is rather simple the young ones are always rebelling against authority… war is bad period, and whoever the leader is that is making war is bad period. Obama is making the war, or at least to them he is.


  64. RIX
    64 | February 10, 2013 9:21 pm

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.


  65. brookly red
    65 | February 10, 2013 9:22 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’m watching today’s Fox News Sunday, and just shaking my head.

    If I were Chris Wallace, I’d be in jail right now for strangling Nancy Pelosi.

    maybe… they would first have to find 12 people to agree it was a bad thing.


  66. lobo91
    66 | February 10, 2013 9:22 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    I’m amazed that she’s able to find her office.


  67. brookly red
    67 | February 10, 2013 9:23 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    yes you can speak about guns all you want!


  68. Calo
    68 | February 10, 2013 9:23 pm

    @ RIX:
    Yep, 1st amendment rights for all, no guns for you!


  69. lobo91
    69 | February 10, 2013 9:23 pm

    @ brookly red:

    maybe… they would first have to find 12 people to agree it was a bad thing.

    In DC? You must be joking.


  70. brookly red
    70 | February 10, 2013 9:24 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    I’m amazed that she’s able to find her office.

    it’s where they put the food…


  71. brookly red
    71 | February 10, 2013 9:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    maybe… they would first have to find 12 people to agree it was a bad thing.

    In DC? You must be joking.

    12 people who are not felons


  72. RIX
    72 | February 10, 2013 9:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    I’m amazed that she’s able to find her office.

    She is really a stupid woman, yet she is the House Minority Leader
    & could become Speaker again.


  73. RIX
    73 | February 10, 2013 9:28 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    yes you can speak about guns all you want!

    She is just not smart enough to think of it
    that way.


  74. RIX
    74 | February 10, 2013 9:30 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Yep, 1st amendment rights for all, no guns for you!

    First Amendment rights do not include blasphemy
    against BHO.


  75. song_and_dance_man
    75 | February 10, 2013 9:31 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    who are they? the initiated.

    You seem to want a fisk. I’m not interested unless you really want a sound hearing.


  76. brookly red
    76 | February 10, 2013 9:33 pm

    RIX wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    I’m amazed that she’s able to find her office.

    She is really a stupid woman, yet she is the House Minority Leader
    & could become Speaker again.

    she could also have a stroke tomorrow… could is a strange word


  77. 77 | February 10, 2013 9:33 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    Ah, and she is the Botox Bitch from Buggeryland!


  78. lobo91
    78 | February 10, 2013 9:34 pm

    @ brookly red:

    she could also have a stroke tomorrow

    But would anyone notice?


  79. brookly red
    79 | February 10, 2013 9:34 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    who are they? the initiated.

    You seem to want a fisk. I’m not interested unless you really want a sound hearing.

    I want a fish, I love herring!

    But seriously tell it like it is.


  80. brookly red
    80 | February 10, 2013 9:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    she could also have a stroke tomorrow

    But would anyone notice?

    her heirs for sure…


  81. RIX
    81 | February 10, 2013 9:36 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Anything can happen. I don’t want the woman to have a stroke,
    I just don’t want her in a responsible position..


  82. Calo
    82 | February 10, 2013 9:37 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Uh oh, oh no -- definition #3.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fisk


  83. RIX
    83 | February 10, 2013 9:37 pm

    Macker wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    But Pelosi suppots First Amendment gun rights.

    Ah, and she is the Botox Bitch from Buggeryland!

    And she brought that intellect to California.


  84. coldwarrior
    84 | February 10, 2013 9:39 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    It is rather simple the young ones are always rebelling against authority… war is bad period, and whoever the leader is that is making war is bad period. Obama is making the war, or at least to them he is.

    cool enough for me.

    groovy, maybe even choomey!


  85. 85 | February 10, 2013 9:39 pm

    @ Calo:

    Ah! So selrahC Loves a Good Fisking!


  86. brookly red
    86 | February 10, 2013 9:41 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Anything can happen. I don’t want the woman to have a stroke,
    I just don’t want her in a responsible position..

    I don’t want her to have a stroke either (I want her to confess and name her accomplices) but my point is 2 years is a long time and only the Lord knows what shall be.


  87. coldwarrior
    87 | February 10, 2013 9:41 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    who are they? the initiated.
    You seem to want a fisk. I’m not interested unless you really want a sound hearing.

    a fisk? no sure what you mean there.

    no. i really want to know who you believe are the initiated in the christian world, and who are uninitiated.

    the floor is all yours.


  88. coldwarrior
    88 | February 10, 2013 9:44 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Uh oh, oh no — definition #3.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fisk

    i’m just asking for a definition of both words. i like to be clear when i dont understand meaning.


  89. song_and_dance_man
    89 | February 10, 2013 9:44 pm

    @ Calo:

    Look up fisking. It’s an new age way of deconstructing anothers argument that was given as a new term by way of Robert Fisk.


  90. song_and_dance_man
    90 | February 10, 2013 9:45 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    the floor is all yours.

    email me with any concerns you may have


  91. coldwarrior
    91 | February 10, 2013 9:46 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    she could also have a stroke tomorrow… could is a strange word

    i hope she doesn’t do that near my hospital.


  92. heysoos
    92 | February 10, 2013 9:46 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ Calo:
    Look up fisking. It’s an new age way of deconstructing anothers argument that was given as a new term by way of Robert Fisk.

    and here I thought it had to do with trout fishing


  93. brookly red
    93 | February 10, 2013 9:46 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    It is rather simple the young ones are always rebelling against authority… war is bad period, and whoever the leader is that is making war is bad period. Obama is making the war, or at least to them he is.

    cool enough for me.

    groovy, maybe even choomey!

    you gotta understand to a college kid the world is a bad place & who ever is the leader is evil. Obama is now Bush to them, or Nixon or whoever… the world is a crappy place and they are the enlightened ones to change it.


  94. brookly red
    94 | February 10, 2013 9:48 pm

    no lutefisk? no schnapps?


  95. Calo
    95 | February 10, 2013 9:49 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Heh, KT is a big fish in a little pond!


  96. brookly red
    96 | February 10, 2013 9:50 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Heh, KT is a big fish in a little pond swamp!

    minor edit.


  97. coldwarrior
    97 | February 10, 2013 9:50 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    no lutefisk? no schnapps?

    dude, i have had the lutefisk…it’s, well…it is.


  98. heysoos
    98 | February 10, 2013 9:51 pm

    @ brookly red:
    not gonna happen….
    studies have shown that 90% of college graduates cannot point to Florida on a map of Florida


  99. brookly red
    99 | February 10, 2013 9:51 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    she could also have a stroke tomorrow… could is a strange word

    i hope she doesn’t do that near my hospital.

    your not in CA or DC are you?


  100. song_and_dance_man
    100 | February 10, 2013 9:51 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Do you believe that a Christian, or any believer in any faith, has a right to take the life of another for the sake of their faith?


  101. coldwarrior
    101 | February 10, 2013 9:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    you gotta understand to a college kid the world is a bad place & who ever is the leader is evil. Obama is now Bush to them, or Nixon or whoever… the world is a crappy place and they are the enlightened ones to change it.

    slip some

    ‘personal liberty, smaller government, state’s rights’ in their lattes while they are open to persuasion!


  102. Lily
    102 | February 10, 2013 9:51 pm

    @ Calo:

    WoW!!! I’m feel like I’m mushrooms I’m having flash-backs !!!!


  103. brookly red
    103 | February 10, 2013 9:52 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    not gonna happen….
    studies have shown that 90% of college graduates cannot point to Florida on a map of Florida

    but 100% can blame the worlds problems on the current president


  104. RIX
    104 | February 10, 2013 9:52 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Anything can happen. I don’t want the woman to have a stroke,
    I just don’t want her in a responsible position..

    I don’t want her to have a stroke either (I want her to confess and name her accomplices) but my point is 2 years is a long time and only the Lord knows what shall be.

    I know that you weren’t saying that.


  105. Da_Beerfreak
    105 | February 10, 2013 9:53 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    when Geller is more popular than Savoy Brown, I’ll kill myself…

    Savoy who????


  106. coldwarrior
    106 | February 10, 2013 9:53 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    the floor is all yours.
    email me with any concerns you may have

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Do you believe that a Christian, or any believer in any faith, has a right to take the life of another for the sake of their faith?

    i will answer you question after you answer my request for definitions.

    no fair asking for an email then hitting me with a philosophical question. that’s bad cricket.


  107. song_and_dance_man
    107 | February 10, 2013 9:53 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    and here I thought it had to do with trout fishing

    That is another sport. In these here parts its called Fisk fishing. All you can string is Crappies.


  108. brookly red
    108 | February 10, 2013 9:55 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    you gotta understand to a college kid the world is a bad place & who ever is the leader is evil. Obama is now Bush to them, or Nixon or whoever… the world is a crappy place and they are the enlightened ones to change it.

    slip some

    personal liberty, smaller government, state’s rights in their lattes while they are open to persuasion!

    not me I will let their professors who are all so far left they hate Obama for not living up to their eutopian expectations.


  109. Lily
    109 | February 10, 2013 9:55 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Do you believe that a Christian, or any believer in any faith, has a right to take the life of another for the sake of their faith?

    So in essense battling evil such as Hitler and the SS was wrong because it was un-Christian although they were evil in the flesh?
    /not really getting your point ….. evil is spiritual and in the flesh.


  110. brookly red
    110 | February 10, 2013 9:56 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    and here I thought it had to do with trout fishing

    That is another sport. In these here parts its called Fisk fishing. All you can string is Crappies.

    like dating on the west side…


  111. coldwarrior
    111 | February 10, 2013 9:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    slip some

    personal liberty, smaller government, state’s rights in their lattes while they are open to persuasion!

    not me I will let their professors who are all so far left they hate Obama for not living up to their eutopian expectations.

    good call. when the enemy is in the process of destroying itself, let it!

    very sun tzu of youze.


  112. brookly red
    112 | February 10, 2013 9:58 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    Do you believe that a Christian, or any believer in any faith, has a right to take the life of another for the sake of their faith?

    obviously not a Christian or Jew, however self defense or the protection of others is a matter of law not faith.


  113. darkwords
    113 | February 10, 2013 9:59 pm

    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.


  114. song_and_dance_man
    114 | February 10, 2013 10:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i will answer you question after you answer my request for definitions.

    No fair after answering you once and your request for further expansion. I say we are 1 for 0. Let’s disregard everything prior to your last question and make it even with my latest.


  115. brookly red
    115 | February 10, 2013 10:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    slip some

    personal liberty, smaller government, state’s rights in their lattes while they are open to persuasion!

    not me I will let their professors who are all so far left they hate Obama for not living up to their eutopian expectations.

    good call. when the enemy is in the process of destroying itself, let it!

    very sun tzu of youze.

    well yes and no. To a 21 yr old Obama is already old and useless… Pelosie and Hillary are mummies. Obama and Mooch are their parents and they see all the evil of the world in them.

    The enemy is eternal and will simply choose younger minions


  116. Lily
    116 | February 10, 2013 10:03 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.

    My son would agree with you…mime’s are the worst!!! ;)


  117. Calo
    117 | February 10, 2013 10:05 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    *smack*

    Life isn’t fair.
    CW 1 SADM 0


  118. song_and_dance_man
    118 | February 10, 2013 10:05 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.

    And if you choke a Smurf what color does it turn?


  119. coldwarrior
    119 | February 10, 2013 10:06 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    i will answer you question after you answer my request for definitions.
    No fair after answering you once and your request for further expansion. I say we are 1 for 0. Let’s disregard everything prior to your last question and make it even with my latest.

    what is this, robert’s rules of parliamentary procedure?

    if you dont want to give a definition, then fine. that’s cool. i’m done pursuing understanding on this topic of yours.


  120. brookly red
    120 | February 10, 2013 10:06 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.

    the fuck do you know… clowns are good stewed, smoked or jerky… stay away from the organs though most are drunks, drug addicts or you know…gay.


  121. brookly red
    121 | February 10, 2013 10:06 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.

    And if you choke a Smurf what color does it turn?

    darker blue…


  122. Calo
    122 | February 10, 2013 10:07 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Christian Purple People Eaters Unite!


  123. RIX
    123 | February 10, 2013 10:07 pm

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once beat up his own shadow for following too close.
    How are you tonight lily?


  124. darkwords
    124 | February 10, 2013 10:08 pm

    @ 112 brookly red: I’d say faith that means something requires love to grow. And killing clouds that type of love. But we are sometimes in a position where we have a choice to make that involves death.

    The crusades and the back and forth there with Islam were bad but were also reflective of the state of humanity at the time.

    Today, Islam represents a type of evil by remaining in that medieval mindset. They need to follow the example of Christianity. But still within Christianity a lot of hearts are locked up in prisons of fear.


  125. heysoos
    125 | February 10, 2013 10:09 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    darkwords wrote:
    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.

    the fuck do you know… clowns are good stewed, smoked or jerky… stay away from the organs though most are drunks, drug addicts or you know…gay.

    jerky clowns?…huh?


  126. coldwarrior
    126 | February 10, 2013 10:11 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    *smack*
    Life isn’t fair.
    CW 1 SADM 0

    not at all.

    everyone 0.

    understanding did not flow, opinion was not shared.


  127. Calo
    127 | February 10, 2013 10:12 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Get with the program haysoos, it’s the other white meat we are posting about tonight.


  128. brookly red
    128 | February 10, 2013 10:12 pm

    Lily wrote:

    darkwords wrote:

    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.

    My son would agree with you…mime’s are the worst!!!

    Mimewurst! ahhh an old German delicacy! on Black bread mit cheese und senf, oh und Kartoffelsalat und ein gutes Bier oooh

    OK where was I mimes are ok…


  129. heysoos
    129 | February 10, 2013 10:13 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    unZen…
    try harder


  130. song_and_dance_man
    130 | February 10, 2013 10:13 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    what is this, robert’s rules of parliamentary procedure?

    if you dont want to give a definition, then fine. that’s cool. i’m done pursuing understanding on this topic of yours.

    That’s cool. You can’t answer my question. I made an innocuous statement above that Rodan replied to, and you picked up on, then resulted in a bunch of questions by you and now you can’t be bothered with it.

    Can we now move on?


  131. coldwarrior
    131 | February 10, 2013 10:13 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    jerky clowns?…huh?

    clowns bug me.

    they do.


  132. Lily
    132 | February 10, 2013 10:15 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once beat up his own shadow for following too close.
    How are you tonight lily?

    Achy week-end …. but getting better each day…and hope you are doing okay Rix!
    /Chuck Norris shadow should know better!!! 8-)


  133. heysoos
    133 | February 10, 2013 10:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    jerky clowns?…huh?
    clowns bug me.
    they do.

    ALL CLOWNS WILL BE KILLED AND STEWED!
    so be it…


  134. Lily
    134 | February 10, 2013 10:17 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    darkwords wrote:
    Cannibals don’t eat clowns because they taste funny.
    My son would agree with you…mime’s are the worst!!!
    Mimewurst! ahhh an old German delicacy! on Black bread mit cheese und senf, oh und Kartoffelsalat und ein gutes Bier oooh
    OK where was I mimes are ok…

    :lol: :lol: :lol:


  135. Lily
    135 | February 10, 2013 10:18 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    jerky clowns?…huh?
    clowns bug me.
    they do.
    ALL CLOWNS WILL BE KILLED AND STEWED!
    so be it…

    Oooooooooooooooh you have just become my sons newest bestest friend. ;)


  136. coldwarrior
    136 | February 10, 2013 10:19 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    That’s cool. You can’t answer my question. I made an innocuous statement above that Rodan replied to, and you picked up on, then resulted in a bunch of questions by you and now you can’t be bothered with it.

    Can we now move on?

    by your leave.

    and i will answer your question:

    Do you believe that a Christian, or any believer in any faith, has a right to take the life of another for the sake of their faith?

    the right to? the right?

    as defined by whom? governments, the religion? the preachers? the imams?

    because if you said duty i would point you to st thomas aquinas’ on just war:

    I answer that, In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign by whose command the war is to be waged. For it is not the business of a private individual to declare war, because he can seek for redress of his rights from the tribunal of his superior. Moreover it is not the business of a private individual to summon together the people, which has to be done in wartime. And as the care of the common weal is committed to those who are in authority, it is their business to watch over the common weal of the city, kingdom or province subject to them. And just as it is lawful for them to have recourse to the sword in defending that common weal against internal disturbances, when they punish evil-doers, according to the words of the Apostle (Rm. 13:4): “He beareth not the sword in vain: for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil”; so too, it is their business to have recourse to the sword of war in defending the common weal against external enemies. Hence it is said to those who are in authority (Ps. 81:4): “Rescue the poor: and deliver the needy out of the hand of the sinner”; and for this reason Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 75): “The natural order conducive to peace among mortals demands that the power to declare and counsel war should be in the hands of those who hold the supreme authority.”

    Secondly, a just cause is required, namely that those who are attacked, should be attacked because they deserve it on account of some fault. Wherefore Augustine says (Questions. in Hept., qu. x, super Jos.): “A just war is wont to be described as one that avenges wrongs, when a nation or state has to be punished, for refusing to make amends for the wrongs inflicted by its subjects, or to restore what it has seized unjustly.”

    Thirdly, it is necessary that the belligerents should have a rightful intention, so that they intend the advancement of good, or the avoidance of evil. Hence Augustine says (De Verb. Dom. [*The words quoted are to be found not in St. Augustine's works, but Can. Apud. Caus. xxiii, qu. 1]): “True religion looks upon as peaceful those wars that are waged not for motives of aggrandizement, or cruelty, but with the object of securing peace, of punishing evil-doers, and of uplifting the good.” For it may happen that the war is declared by the legitimate authority, and for a just cause, and yet be rendered unlawful through a wicked intention. Hence Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 74): “The passion for inflicting harm, the cruel thirst for vengeance, an unpacific and relentless spirit, the fever of revolt, the lust of power, and such like things, all these are rightly condemned in war.”


  137. brookly red
    137 | February 10, 2013 10:19 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    jerky clowns?…huh?
    clowns bug me.
    they do.

    ALL CLOWNS WILL BE KILLED AND STEWED!
    so be it…

    Isn’t it rich?
    Isn’t it queer?
    Losing my timing this late
    In my career?
    And where are the clowns?
    Quick, send in the clowns.
    Don’t bother -- they’re here.


  138. Calo
    138 | February 10, 2013 10:20 pm

    @ heysoos:
    :lol:


  139. brookly red
    139 | February 10, 2013 10:20 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    That’s cool. You can’t answer my question. I made an innocuous statement above that Rodan replied to, and you picked up on, then resulted in a bunch of questions by you and now you can’t be bothered with it.

    Can we now move on?

    by your leave.

    and i will answer your question:

    Do you believe that a Christian, or any believer in any faith, has a right to take the life of another for the sake of their faith?

    the right to? the right?

    as defined by whom? governments, the religion? the preachers? the imams?

    because if you said duty i would point you to st thomas aquinas’ on just war:

    I answer that, In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign by whose command the war is to be waged. For it is not the business of a private individual to declare war, because he can seek for redress of his rights from the tribunal of his superior. Moreover it is not the business of a private individual to summon together the people, which has to be done in wartime. And as the care of the common weal is committed to those who are in authority, it is their business to watch over the common weal of the city, kingdom or province subject to them. And just as it is lawful for them to have recourse to the sword in defending that common weal against internal disturbances, when they punish evil-doers, according to the words of the Apostle (Rm. 13:4): “He beareth not the sword in vain: for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil”; so too, it is their business to have recourse to the sword of war in defending the common weal against external enemies. Hence it is said to those who are in authority (Ps. 81:4): “Rescue the poor: and deliver the needy out of the hand of the sinner”; and for this reason Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 75): “The natural order conducive to peace among mortals demands that the power to declare and counsel war should be in the hands of those who hold the supreme authority.”

    Secondly, a just cause is required, namely that those who are attacked, should be attacked because they deserve it on account of some fault. Wherefore Augustine says (Questions. in Hept., qu. x, super Jos.): “A just war is wont to be described as one that avenges wrongs, when a nation or state has to be punished, for refusing to make amends for the wrongs inflicted by its subjects, or to restore what it has seized unjustly.”

    Thirdly, it is necessary that the belligerents should have a rightful intention, so that they intend the advancement of good, or the avoidance of evil. Hence Augustine says (De Verb. Dom. [*The words quoted are to be found not in St. Augustine's works, but Can. Apud. Caus. xxiii, qu. 1]): “True religion looks upon as peaceful those wars that are waged not for motives of aggrandizement, or cruelty, but with the object of securing peace, of punishing evil-doers, and of uplifting the good.” For it may happen that the war is declared by the legitimate authority, and for a just cause, and yet be rendered unlawful through a wicked intention. Hence Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 74): “The passion for inflicting harm, the cruel thirst for vengeance, an unpacific and relentless spirit, the fever of revolt, the lust of power, and such like things, all these are rightly condemned in war.”

    uhhh the correct answer is no.


  140. heysoos
    140 | February 10, 2013 10:23 pm

    if you think there is a voice of reason around here, you’re in the wrong saloon


  141. RIX
    141 | February 10, 2013 10:25 pm

    @ Lily:
    I am doing well & glad that you are.
    There is no Theory of Evolution, just a list of
    creatures that Chuck Norris lets live.


  142. coldwarrior
    142 | February 10, 2013 10:26 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    uhhh the correct answer is no.

    no, the correct answer is ‘yes’ as long as:

    First, the authority of the sovereign by whose command the war is to be waged. For it is not the business of a private individual to declare war, because he can seek for redress of his rights from the tribunal of his superior.

    Secondly, a just cause is required, namely that those who are attacked, should be attacked because they deserve it on account of some fault.

    Thirdly, it is necessary that the belligerents should have a rightful intention, so that they intend the advancement of good, or the avoidance of evil.

    now definitions and subtleties in the above terms are epic and will go on forever. hence, the question is very difficult to answer.


  143. coldwarrior
    143 | February 10, 2013 10:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    if you think there is a voice of reason around here, you’re in the wrong saloon

    woot! i’ll have another guinness. thanks!


  144. coldwarrior
    144 | February 10, 2013 10:32 pm

    RIX wrote:

    There is no Theory of Evolution, just a list of
    creatures that Chuck Norris lets live.

    nobel for chuck.


  145. Lily
    145 | February 10, 2013 10:32 pm

    @ RIX:

    Glad to hear things are good for you! I was so moody this week-end my husband would rather stay home tomorrow than go to work…and that says something. 8-)

    Chuck Norris can push open doors labelled “PULL”.


  146. RIX
    146 | February 10, 2013 10:33 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    There is no Theory of Evolution, just a list of
    creatures that Chuck Norris lets live.

    nobel for chuck.

    He’s just that kind of guy.


  147. brookly red
    147 | February 10, 2013 10:34 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    uhhh the correct answer is no.

    no, the correct answer is ‘yes’ as long as:

    First, the authority of the sovereign by whose command the war is to be waged. For it is not the business of a private individual to declare war, because he can seek for redress of his rights from the tribunal of his superior.

    Secondly, a just cause is required, namely that those who are attacked, should be attacked because they deserve it on account of some fault.

    Thirdly, it is necessary that the belligerents should have a rightful intention, so that they intend the advancement of good, or the avoidance of evil.

    now definitions and subtleties in the above terms are epic and will go on forever. hence, the question is very difficult to answer.

    it is easy to answer… No, not by faith. By law OK not by faith.


  148. Calo
    148 | February 10, 2013 10:34 pm

    @ Lily:
    meh, I worked all weekend, there is no room for crankiness in my life.

    Where did SADM go?


  149. Lily
    149 | February 10, 2013 10:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    Oh yeah he is that type of guy!!!!

    Like this *boom*!!!

    When Chuck Norris was in middle school, his English teacher assigned an essay: “What is courage?” He received an A+ for turning in a blank page with only his name at the top.


  150. coldwarrior
    150 | February 10, 2013 10:37 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    it is easy to answer… No, not by faith. By law OK not by faith.

    acceptable.

    even in aquinas’ time, law would trump faith in these matters as seen in the first part of 3 of the just war.


  151. coldwarrior
    151 | February 10, 2013 10:38 pm

    Calo wrote:

    meh, I worked all weekend

    so did i.

    72 off now!

    huzzah!


  152. coldwarrior
    152 | February 10, 2013 10:39 pm

    Lily wrote:

    When Chuck Norris was in middle school, his English teacher assigned an essay: “What is courage?” He received an A+ for turning in a blank page with only his name at the top.

    see, i collect chuck norris mythology and legend, this is the first i have heard of this deed!


  153. Lily
    153 | February 10, 2013 10:40 pm

    @ Calo:

    Cranky was my middle name….I’m okay now. :)


  154. Lily
    154 | February 10, 2013 10:42 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    When Chuck Norris was in middle school, his English teacher assigned an essay: “What is courage?” He received an A+ for turning in a blank page with only his name at the top.
    see, i collect chuck norris mythology and legend, this is the first i have heard of this deed!

    8-) I’m on a roll tonight thanks to Rix!


  155. RIX
    155 | February 10, 2013 10:42 pm

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris was nonce charged with three counts of attempted
    murder.
    All charges were droped. Chuck Norris does not “attempt” anything.


  156. brookly red
    156 | February 10, 2013 10:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    When Chuck Norris was in middle school, his English teacher assigned an essay: “What is courage?” He received an A+ for turning in a blank page with only his name at the top.
    see, i collect chuck norris mythology and legend, this is the first i have heard of this deed!

    I’m on a roll tonight thanks to Rix!

    you been Rix rolled?


  157. coldwarrior
    157 | February 10, 2013 10:44 pm

    @ brookly red:

    :lol:


  158. Lily
    158 | February 10, 2013 10:46 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Oh dear!! 8-)


  159. coldwarrior
    159 | February 10, 2013 10:46 pm

    light reading

    part of a larger work for perusal.


  160. RIX
    160 | February 10, 2013 10:47 pm

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King & got it.


  161. Lily
    161 | February 10, 2013 10:47 pm

    Here’s one Rix!!!

    Chuck Norris doesn’t play “hide-and-seek.” He plays “hide-and-pray-I-don’t-find-you.”


  162. Calo
    162 | February 10, 2013 10:48 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    When Chuck Norris was in middle school, his English teacher assigned an essay: “What is courage?” He received an A+ for turning in a blank page with only his name at the top.
    see, i collect chuck norris mythology and legend, this is the first i have heard of this deed!

    Woops, I wanna Rix tonight.

    and with that. I’m out.
    Night.

    I’m on a roll tonight thanks to Rix!

    you been Rix rolled?


  163. coldwarrior
    163 | February 10, 2013 10:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King & got it.

    he had it his way at mcdonalds.


  164. brookly red
    164 | February 10, 2013 10:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King & got it.

    HA but did he get it his way?


  165. Lily
    165 | February 10, 2013 10:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King & got it.

    Now that’s power!!!!


  166. coldwarrior
    166 | February 10, 2013 10:48 pm

    blows bubbles with beef jerky


  167. coldwarrior
    167 | February 10, 2013 10:49 pm

    does not need a nail gun


  168. song_and_dance_man
    168 | February 10, 2013 10:49 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    The problem is many faiths, especially Islam, holds these very same tenets, although clothed in different terms to be valid. What I was alluding to in a very basic way is where any ordinary person may have justification to kill another with their faith as justification for it. As you can see every faith has broad ways to accomplish this. Some are skewed towards evil that have nothing to do with good. More leaning towards political power rather that spiritual ennobling.

    Now to answering your question.

    The initiated in Christendom, at the fundamental level know this, or at least they should, that killing is a form of justice, but not to be executed unless called upon by the powers. However, as Paul noted, it must be a righteous cause but the powers in our day are convoluted and corrupt at best. This is a political dilemma for any who might want to follow the true tenets of what Yeshua prescribed.


  169. brookly red
    169 | February 10, 2013 10:52 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    does not need a nail gun

    a manicure with a 1911 Colt?


  170. brookly red
    170 | February 10, 2013 10:53 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    The problem is many faiths, especially Islam, holds these very same tenets, although clothed in different terms to be valid. What I was alluding to in a very basic way is where any ordinary person may have justification to kill another with their faith as justification for it. As you can see every faith has broad ways to accomplish this. Some are skewed towards evil that have nothing to do with good. More leaning towards political power rather that spiritual ennobling.

    Now to answering your question.

    The initiated in Christendom, at the fundamental level know this, or at least they should, that killing is a form of justice, but not to be executed unless called upon by the powers. However, as Paul noted, it must be a righteous cause but the powers in our day are convoluted and corrupt at best. This is a political dilemma for any who might want to follow the true tenets of what Yeshua prescribed.

    so this drone shit is gonna bite obama’s ass?


  171. Calo
    171 | February 10, 2013 10:55 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    that killing is a form of justice, but not to be executed unless called upon by the powers. However, as Paul noted, it must be a righteous cause but the powers in our day are convoluted and corrupt at best.

    Rock on, dude.


  172. Lily
    172 | February 10, 2013 10:56 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Word. Sounds like you got the beed on that. 8-)


  173. song_and_dance_man
    173 | February 10, 2013 10:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    so this drone shit is gonna bite obama’s ass?

    Wielding the sword in vain is like registering to LGF. Bad mojo with mumbo jumbo as an excuse.


  174. Lily
    174 | February 10, 2013 10:59 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    I don’t think anyone on this thread is at war with any country or person.


  175. Calo
    175 | February 10, 2013 11:00 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    And your excuse for being a top poster there with your comments obliterated?

    Pot, meet kettle.


  176. Lily
    176 | February 10, 2013 11:02 pm

    @ Calo:

    Ooooooooooooh!!! Speak the truth sister!!!


  177. song_and_dance_man
    177 | February 10, 2013 11:03 pm

    @ Lily:

    The whole argument arose from Rodan thinking that I was zeroing in on the Roman church as those who have lost their way. That was not what I wrote.


  178. RIX
    178 | February 10, 2013 11:05 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King & got it.

    he had it his way at mcdonalds.

    Always


  179. RIX
    179 | February 10, 2013 11:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Chuck Norris once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King & got it.

    Now that’s power!!!!

    He is Chuck Norris.


  180. RIX
    180 | February 10, 2013 11:06 pm

    Good night all.


  181. coldwarrior
    181 | February 10, 2013 11:09 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    The initiated in Christendom, at the fundamental level know this, or at least they should, that killing is a form of justice, but not to be executed unless called upon by the powers. However, as Paul noted, it must be a righteous cause but the powers in our day are convoluted and corrupt at best. This is a political dilemma for any who might want to follow the true tenets of what Yeshua prescribed.

    that’s going to take me a few days to digest. and i’ll call him jesus.

    who would jesus side with on the serbians versus the muslims. since he would know what we all know now as he is all seeing.

    or the nigerian christians versus the muslims

    or the philipino catholics versus the moros?

    but not to be executed unless called upon by the powers

    who/what are ‘the powers’? so i may respond further?


  182. song_and_dance_man
    182 | February 10, 2013 11:09 pm

    Calo wrote:

    And your excuse for being a top poster there with your comments obliterated?

    Foster hates truth and those who have the propensity to blithely speak it. A crime against evolutionary meme’bers.


  183. coldwarrior
    183 | February 10, 2013 11:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    I don’t think anyone on this thread is at war with any country or person.

    we have always been at war with oceana!


  184. Lily
    184 | February 10, 2013 11:13 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Then be clear about it not about zeroing in on the Catholic Church.
    Christians shouldn’t attack Christians!


  185. Lily
    185 | February 10, 2013 11:15 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Calo wrote:
    And your excuse for being a top poster there with your comments obliterated?
    Foster hates truth and those who have the propensity to blithely speak it. A crime against evolutionary meme’bers.

    Do not ….repeat do not let a raccoon fall on you and don’t beat it with a stick…or you will be changed.


  186. huckfunn
    186 | February 10, 2013 11:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    I don’t think anyone on this thread is at war with any country or person.

    we have always been at war with oceana!

    No mercy to the Oceananiacs!


  187. Lily
    187 | February 10, 2013 11:16 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ song_and_dance_man:
    I don’t think anyone on this thread is at war with any country or person.
    we have always been at war with oceana!

    Darn it I forgot. :oops:


  188. Lily
    188 | February 10, 2013 11:17 pm

    Lily wrote:

    song_and_dance_man wrote:
    Calo wrote:
    And your excuse for being a top poster there with your comments obliterated?
    Foster hates truth and those who have the propensity to blithely speak it. A crime against evolutionary meme’bers.
    Do not ….repeat do not let a raccoon fall on you and don’t beat it with a stick…or you will be changed.

    Damn it…do beat it with a stick…if you don’t it will change you. Those critters are damn mean I tell you.


  189. brookly red
    189 | February 10, 2013 11:18 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    Then be clear about it not about zeroing in on the Catholic Church.
    Christians shouldn’t attack Christians!

    fify


  190. Calo
    190 | February 10, 2013 11:19 pm

    @ Lily:
    Coon Attack


  191. coldwarrior
    191 | February 10, 2013 11:19 pm

    They are working on proposals that would allow physician assistants to treat more patients and nurse practitioners to set up independent practices.

    and so it begins.

    i’m gonna make a ton off of obamacare. i wish it would go away.


  192. coldwarrior
    192 | February 10, 2013 11:20 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    @ song_and_dance_man:
    I don’t think anyone on this thread is at war with any country or person.
    we have always been at war with oceana!

    No mercy to the Oceananiacs!

    hey, give us a good texas blues tune and post in on an OOT.

    we need one tonight

    thx!


  193. song_and_dance_man
    193 | February 10, 2013 11:21 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    who would jesus side with on the serbians versus the muslims. since he would know what we all know now as he is all seeing.

    I have to say I was hesitant to answer you because through the years I have sensed a certain hesitance, even an almost contrary attitude towards faith and religion from you. And this seemingly snide remark “since he would know what we all know now as he is all seeing”. I may be wrong, anyway I hope these are not thrown away pearls.

    This situation has already been described by him. He was asked who he should side with in regards to taxes, and he said, Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s. That is the juxtaposition for all who would follow Christ before Caesar.


  194. Calo
    194 | February 10, 2013 11:22 pm

    @ coldwarrior:Yep, some Texas Blues would be quite nice tonight, Lily.


  195. Lily
    195 | February 10, 2013 11:22 pm


  196. brookly red
    196 | February 10, 2013 11:23 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i’m gonna make a ton off of obamacare. i wish it would go away.

    don’t worry between the taxes and the malpractice insurance you will be at minimum wage like everyone else…


  197. song_and_dance_man
    197 | February 10, 2013 11:24 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Then be clear about it not about zeroing in on the Catholic Church.

    Oh behave. What? Do I now have to give a disclaimer when speaking about ‘churches’.


  198. coldwarrior
    198 | February 10, 2013 11:24 pm

    Lily wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Lily wrote:
    @ song_and_dance_man:
    I don’t think anyone on this thread is at war with any country or person.
    we have always been at war with oceana!
    Darn it I forgot.

    no potato for you.


  199. brookly red
    199 | February 10, 2013 11:25 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    who would jesus side with on the serbians versus the muslims. since he would know what we all know now as he is all seeing.

    I have to say I was hesitant to answer you because through the years I have sensed a certain hesitance, even an almost contrary attitude towards faith and religion from you. And this seemingly snide remark “since he would know what we all know now as he is all seeing”. I may be wrong, anyway I hope these are not thrown away pearls.

    This situation has already been described by him. He was asked who he should side with in regards to taxes, and he said, Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s. That is the juxtaposition for all who would follow Christ before Caesar.

    That is the juxtaposition for all who would follow Christ before Caesar. why what need has Christ for coin?


  200. huckfunn
    200 | February 10, 2013 11:26 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    hey, give us a good texas blues tune and post in on an OOT.

    we need one tonight

    thx!

    Shakin’ it here, boss.


  201. coldwarrior
    201 | February 10, 2013 11:26 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    i am orthodox. that is why i seem so odd to you.


  202. brookly red
    202 | February 10, 2013 11:26 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Oh behave. What? Do I now have to give a disclaimer when speaking about ‘churches’.

    welcome to the new first amendment


  203. Calo
    203 | February 10, 2013 11:27 pm

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    Humph, snide Catholics are all about tonight.

    Good night, I’m off on my knees tonight, playing.


  204. coldwarrior
    204 | February 10, 2013 11:27 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:
    i am orthodox. that is why i seem so odd to you.

    u da man and i am there!

    done here


  205. brookly red
    205 | February 10, 2013 11:27 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ song_and_dance_man:

    i am orthodox. that is why i seem so odd to you.

    Sir? orthodox?


  206. coldwarrior
    206 | February 10, 2013 11:30 pm

    new thread


  207. Lily
    207 | February 10, 2013 11:30 pm

    song_and_dance_man wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Then be clear about it not about zeroing in on the Catholic Church.
    Oh behave. What? Do I now have to give a disclaimer when speaking about ‘churches’.

    :)


  208. darkwords
    208 | February 10, 2013 11:35 pm

    One of my favorite religious jokes.

    I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing
    on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said “Stop!
    don’t do it!”
    “Why shouldn’t I?” he said.
    I said, “Well, there’s so much to live for!”
    He said, “Like what?”
    I said, “Well…are you religious or atheist?”
    He said, “Religious.”
    I said, “Me too! Are you christian or buddhist?”
    He said,”Christian.”
    I said, “Me too! Are you catholic or protestant?”
    He said, “Protestant.”
    I said, “Me too! Are you episcopalian or baptist?”
    He said, “Baptist!”
    I said,”Wow! Me too! Are you baptist church of god or
    baptist church of the lord?”
    He said, “Baptist church of god!”
    I said, “Me too! Are you original baptist church of god,
    or are you reformed baptist church of god?”
    He said,”Reformed Baptist church of god!”
    I said, “Me too! Are you reformed baptist church of god,
    reformation of 1879, or reformed baptist church of god,
    reformation of 1915?”
    He said, “Reformed baptist church of god, reformation of 1915!”
    I said, “Die, heretic scum”, and pushed him off.


  209. huckfunn
    209 | February 10, 2013 11:39 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    One of my favorite religious jokes.

    Great religious joke in the first 30 seconds of this vid.


  210. coldwarrior
    210 | February 10, 2013 11:40 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ song_and_dance_man:
    i am orthodox. that is why i seem so odd to you.

    Sir? orthodox?

    The Orthodox Church in America (OCA) is an autocephalous Eastern Orthodox church in North America. The OCA consists of more than 700 parishes, missions, communities, monasteries and institutions in the United States and Canada.[2] In 2011, it had 84,900 members in the United States.

    The OCA began when eight Russian Orthodox monks established a mission in Alaska, then part of Russian America, in 1794. This became a diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church after the United States purchased Alaska from Russia in 1867. By the late 19th century, the Russian Orthodox Church had grown in other areas of the United States due to the arrival of immigrants from areas of Europe and the Middle East. Many of these immigrants, regardless of nationality or ethnic background, were united under a single North American diocese of the Russian Orthodox Church.

    After the Bolshevik Revolution, Patriarch Tikhon of Moscow directed all Russian Orthodox churches outside of Russia to govern themselves autonomously.[3] Orthodox churches in America became a self-governing Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Church in America in 1924 under the leadership of Metropolitan Platon (Rozhdestvensky). The Russian Orthodox Greek Catholic Church in America was granted autocephaly by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1970, and renamed the Orthodox Church in America. Its hierarchs are part of the Assembly of Canonical Orthodox Bishops of North and Central America.

    orthodox. we are from the russian orthodox. often the liturgy is in church slavonic. the liturgy (sunday service) is an uninterrupted line since jesus’s time. we are not evangelical, we are not born again because we dont need to be, we are very private, very prayerful every day. internal. much more toward the inside than focused on the outside. we fast often, hard, and quietly. we pray quietly. always in private, away from the outside world. the liturgy is something beautiful to behold.

    some light reading.


  211. Calo
    211 | February 10, 2013 11:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    I tend to lean into your camp, CW.

    we are not evangelical, we are not born again because we dont need to be, we are very private, very prayerful every day. internal. much more toward the inside than focused on the outside. we fast often, hard, and quietly. we pray quietly. always in private, away from the outside world. the liturgy is something beautiful to behold.

    Catholics are doers, living Christlike lives. No words are necessary, actions are enough.


  212. Lily
    212 | February 10, 2013 11:53 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    I tend to lean into your camp, CW.
    we are not evangelical, we are not born again because we dont need to be, we are very private, very prayerful every day. internal. much more toward the inside than focused on the outside. we fast often, hard, and quietly. we pray quietly. always in private, away from the outside world. the liturgy is something beautiful to behold.
    Catholics are doers, living Christlike lives. No words are necessary, actions are enough.

    Amen, Amen to CW and Calo. This is stated more better than I ever could. God Bless to all God’s little souls.


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