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McCain open to new taxes.

by Rodan ( 220 Comments › )
Filed under Debt, Economy, Progressives, Republican Party, Tranzis at February 11th, 2013 - 2:00 pm

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General Douglas MacArthur once said “old soldiers don’t die, they just fade away.” Unfortunately, MacArthur’s saying does not apply to ex servicemen who become Senators. John McCain has become an embarrassment and is clearly  senile fool. He is now open to tax increases to avoid sequestration. This is the stance of the Obama Regime, who the first time since the 2010 elections are on the losing end of a political standoff. McCain is knocking the feet out under Republicans and helping the Obama Regime.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he is willing to consider supporting new tax revenue as part of a plan to avert $85 billion in looming budget cuts, as the White House pushed back against Republican lawmakers who say President Obama is solely responsible for the spending reductions.

McCain made the comments as he once again warned about the adverse effects of the spending reductions, known as sequestration, that will require federal agencies to slash $85 billion in spending by Sept. 30 — including $43 billion at the Pentagon.

“Republicans and Democrats are responsible for this new cliff and I’ll take responsibility for it for the Republicans,” McCain said of the spending cuts. “But we’ve got to avoid it. We’ve got to stop it.”

Averting the cuts “requires bipartisanship,” McCain added. “Will I look at revenue closers? Maybe so. But we’ve already just raised taxes. Why do we have to raise taxes again?”

I wish this senile Muslim Brotherhood stooge would take MacArthur advise and just fade away. There are plenty of great golf courses in Arizona, he could spend his time being useful there.

Update: Eaglesoars pointed out that McCain can’t use his hands for many functions. I forgot about that and the gold course analogy was metaphorical. That said, he can enjoy his time watching some good golf, heck I would!

 

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  1. 1 | February 11, 2013 2:10 pm

    This guy is a senile jerk.


  2. 2 | February 11, 2013 2:10 pm

    He’s a disgrace!


  3. BatGuano
    3 | February 11, 2013 2:12 pm

    @ Rodan:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyTtFNGzFsE


  4. BatGuano
    4 | February 11, 2013 2:13 pm

    @ Rodan:
    He wont fade away.


  5. huckfunn
    5 | February 11, 2013 2:14 pm

    Chris Kyle memorial in Cowboys Stadium, Arlington Texas. Live stream here.
    Following the service, a motorcade will carry his body 200 miles south to be buried in The Texas State Cemetery in Austin.


  6. 6 | February 11, 2013 2:17 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    He wont fade away.

    Old soldiers fade away, old a-holes just continue to annoy.


  7. eaglesoars
    7 | February 11, 2013 2:17 pm

    Wait. I saw him on Sunday is this is NOT what I understood him to mean. Yes, he does want to avoid sequestration and he will agree to some taxes WITH REDUCTION IN SPENDING. It wasn’t nearly as one-sided as it’s presented here.


  8. buzzsawmonkey
    8 | February 11, 2013 2:23 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    he will agree to some taxes WITH REDUCTION IN SPENDING.

    How many times have we heard that tired old song before? And each time he and the others who warble it crumple like cheap umbrellas in a hurricane.


  9. eaglesoars
    9 | February 11, 2013 2:24 pm

    There are plenty of great golf courses in Arizona, he could spend his time being useful there.

    Rodan, shame on you. He can’t type, comb his hair, tie his shoes due to his war injuries. And I think he limps.

    The lede is misleading. I watched him and his demeanor vis a vis tax hikes was CLEARLY one of last-resort distaste.


  10. BatGuano
    10 | February 11, 2013 2:24 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    New taxes are indefensible. There will be no reduction in spending.


  11. eaglesoars
    11 | February 11, 2013 2:25 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    And each time he and the others who warble it crumple like cheap umbrellas in a hurricane.

    And it may turn out like that again. But nothing in McCain’s remarks is PRPEDCICTIVE of that.

    I just think the presentation of this piece is unfair.


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | February 11, 2013 2:27 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    New taxes are indefensible. There will be no reduction in spending.

    Preachin’ to the choir. But I’m still not sure Obama is going to win on this one.


  13. 13 | February 11, 2013 2:28 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    He’s a disgrace!

    You think he is a disgrace to YOU? Try being a Republican in Arizona and watch the buffons the state “establishment” put up against him!

    Oh Yeah and the DemProgs all vote for him also!


  14. coldwarrior
    14 | February 11, 2013 2:37 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    You think he is a disgrace to YOU? Try being a Republican in Arizona and watch the buffons the state “establishment” put up against him!

    i feel for ya. we had arlen sphincter, then we removed him.


  15. lobo91
    15 | February 11, 2013 2:37 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Pelosi made it pretty clear in yesterday’s interview with Chris Wallace that they have no intention of making any actual cuts in anything. She and Obama are railing against the minor cuts that are going to come as a result of the sequester, much less any cuts that would make a difference.


  16. BatGuano
    16 | February 11, 2013 2:39 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Karl Rove loves him! Get with the republican program.


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | February 11, 2013 2:39 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Old soldiers fade away, old a-holes just continue to annoy.

    like hemorrhoids


  18. eaglesoars
    18 | February 11, 2013 2:39 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Pelosi made it pretty clear in yesterday’s interview with Chris Wallace

    Seriously, I thought someone had spiked my morning tea w/LSD. “We Don’t have a spending problem, we have a budget deficit problem”


  19. 19 | February 11, 2013 2:42 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    You have seen this movie before. McCain by saying he is open to new revenue, just created a crack Obama will press through. The Obama Regime have no intentions of reducing spending. By saying he is open, Obama will now put pressure on the GOP with his balance approach crap.

    McCain just gave him fodder and that was the point of the thread.


  20. 20 | February 11, 2013 2:43 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Rodan, shame on you. He can’t type, comb his hair, tie his shoes due to his war injuries. And I think he limps.

    I forgot about that. I was being metaphorical about golf courses and not literal. I’ll update the thread to make it clear.


  21. Speranza
    21 | February 11, 2013 2:45 pm

    Foreign policy and national security was what he was always about. Like Nixon, he never gave a rats ass about economics and on the domestic side all he cares about is amnesty.


  22. lobo91
    22 | February 11, 2013 2:45 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Pelosi made it pretty clear in yesterday’s interview with Chris Wallace
    Seriously, I thought someone had spiked my morning tea w/LSD. “We Don’t have a spending problem, we have a budget deficit problem”

    And even after Wallace pointed out to her that if you took every penny the so-called rich earn, you couldn’t make up the difference, she just continued on yapping about how “we have to try” or some such nonsense.

    And her new favorite term, “evidence-based,” is seriously getting on my nerves.


  23. 23 | February 11, 2013 2:46 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I updated the thread explaining the golf course reference was metaphorical.


  24. heysoos
    24 | February 11, 2013 2:47 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Pelosi is not of this reality…she lives elsewhere


  25. BatGuano
    25 | February 11, 2013 2:47 pm

    McCain is infamous for “reaching across the aisle” to his democrat “friends”.


  26. 26 | February 11, 2013 2:47 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Foreign policy and national security was what he was always about. Like Nixon, he never gave a rats ass about economics and on the domestic side all he cares about is amnesty.

    His foreign policy is just as atrocious as Obama. If he were President we would have troops on the ground in Syria fighting alongside al-Qaeda.


  27. Speranza
    27 | February 11, 2013 2:47 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Karl Rove loves him! Get with the republican program.

    The Judas Kiss from The Architect aka Pig Vomit.


  28. lobo91
    28 | February 11, 2013 2:48 pm

    Biden: “I Am Not Running” For Pope..

    Vice President Joe Biden hailed Pope Benedict XVI’s retirement announcement, calling him a man of “great integrity.”

    But first, Biden joked that he won’t be seeking to replace him.

    “I am not running,” Biden said after hosting a gun violence summit here.


  29. Speranza
    29 | February 11, 2013 2:48 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    His foreign policy is just as atrocious as Obama. If he were President we would have troops on the ground in Syria fighting alongside al-Qaeda.

    How did that work out for him in 2008?


  30. Speranza
    30 | February 11, 2013 2:49 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    His foreign policy is just as atrocious as Obama. If he were President we would have troops on the ground in Syria fighting alongside al-Qaeda.

    He still thinks getting rid of Gaddafi was the best decision.


  31. heysoos
    31 | February 11, 2013 2:49 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    McCain is infamous for “reaching across the aisle” to his democrat “friends”.

    he’s old school, gentlemanly….it’s over for him, now days you gotta knife your opponent then kick him when he hits the ground….partisanship has left him in the dust


  32. 32 | February 11, 2013 2:49 pm

    Obama says the job of debt reduction is nearly done:

    One thing you won’t hear when President Obama delivers his State of the Union address Tuesday: An ambitious new plan to rein in the debt.

    In recent days, the White House has pressed the message that, if policymakers can agree on a strategy for replacing across-the-board spending cuts set to hit next month, the president will pretty much have achieved his debt-reduction goals.

    “Over the last few years, Democrats and Republicans have come together and cut our deficit [over the next decade] by more than $2.5 trillion through a balanced mix of spending cuts and higher tax rates for the wealthiest Americans. That’s more than halfway towards the $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists and elected officials from both parties say we need to stabilize our debt,” Obama said during his weekend radio address.

    By the administration’s math, Washington needs to enact only another $1.5 trillion in 10-year savings to hit the $4 trillion target, White House economic adviser Jason Furman told reporters last week. At $1.2 trillion, the automatic cuts, known as the sequester, quite nearly fit the bill.

    The problem with this scenario? It would indeed stabilize the national debt, compared with the broader economy, for the next 10 years. But the debt would fluctuate between 73 percent and 77 percent of gross domestic product, according to new projections by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office — the highest level in U.S. history except for the period after World War II.

    Even the Washington Post isn’t buying this bullshit. Obama really does think the American people are dumb. I gues he figures if 51% of us voted for him, 51% of us are terminally stupid.


  33. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | February 11, 2013 2:51 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Obama really does think the American people are dumb.

    He is, alas, correct.


  34. buzzsawmonkey
    34 | February 11, 2013 2:52 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I would add that one reason he is correct is that his buddy Ayers, and Ayers’ allies in the world of “education,” have worked long and hard to ensure that the American people would be stupid enough to elect Obama.


  35. 35 | February 11, 2013 2:53 pm

    @ Speranza:
    I think he had lost it.


  36. lobo91
    36 | February 11, 2013 2:53 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I guess my problem is that I don’t speak Democrat.

    In English, “reducing” something means to make is smaller.

    Our debt has gone up every days since he took office, and will do so every day he remains there.

    How is that a reduction?


  37. heysoos
    37 | February 11, 2013 2:53 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I would add that one reason he is correct is that his buddy Ayers, and Ayers’ allies in the world of “education,” have worked long and hard to ensure that the American people would be stupid enough to elect Obama.

    just wait til the herd stampedes


  38. BatGuano
    38 | February 11, 2013 2:53 pm

    The republican establishment does not understand that we have to survive in the dysfunctional world they are helping to create. Fuck Rove and the horse he rode in on!


  39. 39 | February 11, 2013 2:53 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    When you have the media on your side and weak opposition, who can blame him.


  40. 40 | February 11, 2013 2:54 pm

    @ lobo91:

    When Democrats mean reducing, they mean reducing the percentage of increases. They have been doing this game now for who knows how long.


  41. Da_Beerfreak
    41 | February 11, 2013 2:55 pm

    Nancy Pelosi – We Don’t Have A Spending Problem
    (emphasis mine):

    There are times when someone says something so incredibly stupid that it just begs to be shared. Such is the case with the Democratic Minority Leader in the House of Representatives, Madam Nancy Pelosi. She was on Fox News yesterday and she actually had the nerve to come out and say what is no doubt the prevailing opinion of the liberal wing of her party. I just can’t believe she said it on national TV.
    (Breibart)With the sequester set to kick in on March 1, President Obama and his Democrat allies are hell-bent on shifting the conversation away from proper government cuts, and toward higher taxes. On Sunday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) took to Fox News Sunday to explain that America does not have a spending problem. “It is almost a false argument to say that we have a spending problem. We have a budget deficit problem,” Pelosi insisted.

    Of course, Nancy Pelosi is only stating what we already know. President Obama point-blank told John Boehner that he was getting tired of hearing we had a spending problem, making it clear he did not believe that to be the case. This begs a question to be asked of the liberal Democrats. If they refuse to see how out of control government spending is destroying our country, how can they honestly negotiate an agreement to stop and repair said damage? The answer is simply a resounding, WE CAN’T! We can blame John Boehner for the lack of productive negotiations with the Democrats, I have done so myself, but in reality, how is he supposed to negotiate with an addict who refuses to admit they have a problem? More and more, I am convinced that this particular crop of Democrats can not be negotiated with. …

    Off the scale STUPID… :roll:


  42. heysoos
    42 | February 11, 2013 2:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I guess my problem is that I don’t speak Democrat.
    In English, “reducing” something means to make is smaller.
    Our debt has gone up every days since he took office, and will do so every day he remains there.
    How is that a reduction?

    that’s easy….
    watch
    2+2=1


  43. lobo91
    43 | February 11, 2013 2:56 pm

    Poll: Americans Rank Gun Control 18th Out Of 21 Issues The Government Should Make A Priority…

    In a Pew Research Poll listing 21 things the public believes should be government priorities for 2013, passing more gun laws is number 18 out of 21.

    The majority of Americans simply do not see gun control as a pressing concern problem like President Obama and the Democrats do.

    Instead, the American people are worried about the economy (first on the list), jobs (second), the deficit (third), and terrorism (fourth).

    And global warming is dead last.


  44. BatGuano
    44 | February 11, 2013 2:57 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Obama was re-elected so, yes, he was correct.


  45. eaglesoars
    45 | February 11, 2013 2:58 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I’ll update the thread to make it clear.

    Thanks sweetie.


  46. 46 | February 11, 2013 2:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden: “I Am Not Running” For Pope..

    Vice President Joe Biden hailed Pope Benedict XVI’s retirement announcement, calling him a man of “great integrity.”

    But first, Biden joked that he won’t be seeking to replace him.

    “I am not running,” Biden said after hosting a gun violence summit here.

    Good gawd, the man’s embarrassment. I don’t ever want to hear another Dan Quayle joke from one of these SOBs. Not a one.


  47. heysoos
    47 | February 11, 2013 3:00 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Biden: “I Am Not Running” For Pope..
    Vice President Joe Biden hailed Pope Benedict XVI’s retirement announcement, calling him a man of “great integrity.”
    But first, Biden joked that he won’t be seeking to replace him.
    “I am not running,” Biden said after hosting a gun violence summit here.

    Good gawd, the man’s embarrassment. I don’t ever want to hear another Dan Quayle joke from one of these SOBs. Not a one.

    Biden is living proof of the Peter Principle


  48. lobo91
    48 | February 11, 2013 3:00 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Good gawd, the man’s embarrassment. I don’t ever want to hear another Dan Quayle joke from one of these SOBs. Not a one.

    I’ve met Dan Quayle. He’s not stupid.

    Biden, on the other hand, is an ass.


  49. BatGuano
    49 | February 11, 2013 3:01 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    You say potato, I say Patatoe.

    (Ducks)


  50. eaglesoars
    50 | February 11, 2013 3:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The majority of Americans simply do not see gun control as a pressing concern problem like President Obama and the Democrats do.

    You know why there won’t be any ‘gun control’ laws?

    Because the explosive growth in gun ownership and gun sport is among -- WOMEN


  51. lobo91
    51 | February 11, 2013 3:03 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    You know why there won’t be any ‘gun control’ laws?

    Because the explosive growth in gun ownership and gun sport is among — WOMEN

    Another front in the Dems’ war on women…
    //


  52. 52 | February 11, 2013 3:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’ve met Dan Quayle. He’s not stupid.

    No he’s not, quite the opposite.


  53. 53 | February 11, 2013 3:05 pm

    I wonder if the Communists in then North Vietnam managed to brainwash Sen. McCain. He frequently adopts Communist principles of the opposition; e.g., raiiling against corporations, support for the global warming fraud, support for higher taxes; etc.


  54. BatGuano
    54 | February 11, 2013 3:05 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Yes, Dan Quayle is a very smart man.


  55. lobo91
    55 | February 11, 2013 3:06 pm

    I guess this is why Biden isn’t “running for Pope”:

    Bitter Clingers Rejoice! White House Sending Joe Biden To Rural America To Push Gun Control…

    “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”


  56. heysoos
    56 | February 11, 2013 3:07 pm

    “[S]equestration was designed as a budget threat, not as a budget strategy, Durbin said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday.

    I hope this gets some attention…BO has got to be getting nervous…I say go for it and let the blood flow

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/durbin-obama-s-sequester-threat


  57. brookly red
    57 | February 11, 2013 3:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I guess this is why Biden isn’t “running for Pope”:

    Bitter Clingers Rejoice! White House Sending Joe Biden To Rural America To Push Gun Control…

    “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

    uuuh, sir, please don’t pee on that fence sir…


  58. brookly red
    58 | February 11, 2013 3:08 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    “[S]equestration was designed as a budget threat, not as a budget strategy, Durbin said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday.

    I hope this gets some attention…BO has got to be getting nervous…I say go for it and let the blood flow

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/durbin-obama-s-sequester-threat

    yup go for it.


  59. citizen_q
    59 | February 11, 2013 3:08 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    This begs a question to be asked of the liberal Democrats. If they refuse to see how out of control government spending is destroying our country, how can they honestly negotiate an agreement to stop and repair said damage? The answer is simply a resounding, WE CAN’T!

    Reminds me of trying to force Israel to make peace with the paleosimians.


  60. lobo91
    60 | February 11, 2013 3:09 pm

    White House: “Of Course The President Believes We Have A Spending Problem”…

    Of course, what he believes is that we aren’t spending enough


  61. lobo91
    61 | February 11, 2013 3:10 pm

    @ heysoos:

    And they keep claiming that it was Boehner’s plan, which is bullshit.

    The idea of sequestration came from the White House.


  62. 62 | February 11, 2013 3:12 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ MacDuff:
    You say potato, I say Patatoe.

    (Ducks)

    To this day I think twice when writing the word potato. In many ways, Quayle was the first victim of the “cheap shot journalism” that’s common today,


  63. darkwords
    63 | February 11, 2013 3:12 pm

    The easiest way for a government official to succeed in troubled times is to obtain more money, create a dark paper trail, and avoid all audits. Both political parties fan out like an anvil cloud when they hit the atmospheric pressure limits. As TFK says there becomes no difference in them. Just a few words here and there.

    At the working grassroots level we need accountability and audits. GWB was an Anvil thinker, as is McCain. They can’t see the grass from their elite views and make a lot of tower decisions.


  64. 64 | February 11, 2013 3:13 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That is one reason why if the Republicans know what is good for them they’ll oppose Obama on this. We’ll see. They have enough votes to stop gun control dead in the Senate if they stick together. It takes Republican votes to overcome a filibuster in the current Senate.


  65. heysoos
    65 | February 11, 2013 3:14 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    And they keep claiming that it was Boehner’s plan, which is bullshit.
    The idea of sequestration came from the White House.

    I know it’s tricky and the risk pretty high, but I think it’s worth the gamble to let the donks eat this one….the GOP has little to lose and supposedly this debt issue is a thing most working Americans see a pretty simple…time to dig in and hold the ground, maybe the truth will prevail


  66. darkwords
    66 | February 11, 2013 3:15 pm

    @ 34 buzzsawmonkey: We need a few headlines like this.

    “Does voting for Obama mean you are stupid?” It will get the right conversation going.


  67. eaglesoars
    67 | February 11, 2013 3:15 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    “I’m from the government and I’m here…hey! stop shoo….thud”


  68. heysoos
    68 | February 11, 2013 3:16 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 34 buzzsawmonkey: We need a few headlines like this.
    “Does voting for Obama mean you are stupid?” It will get the right conversation going.

    agreed…time for the ball bat approach


  69. brookly red
    69 | February 11, 2013 3:17 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    “Does voting for Obama mean you are stupid?” It will get the right conversation going.

    I guess it depends on how many times you voted…


  70. darkwords
    70 | February 11, 2013 3:17 pm

    @ 30 Speranza: I don’t think the US is competent enough anymore to run a Middle East policy. We should just hand it off to Israel. Send China an FYI


  71. heysoos
    71 | February 11, 2013 3:18 pm

    FOX needs to put up a one hour, prime time gig exposing Benghazi and the cowardice of the CinC and his Sec State


  72. lobo91
    72 | February 11, 2013 3:20 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    FOX needs to put up a one hour, prime time gig exposing Benghazi and the cowardice of the CinC and his Sec State

    Preaching to the choir.

    Most people who watch FNC already know the story, and the rest will diesregard anything they show anyway.


  73. buzzsawmonkey
    73 | February 11, 2013 3:21 pm

    OT

    I wish the Pope had said he was resigning “to spend more time with his family.”


  74. eaglesoars
    74 | February 11, 2013 3:22 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    FOX needs to put up a one hour, prime time gig exposing Benghazi and the cowardice of the CinC and his Sec State

    And Brit Hume needs to do it.

    Tomorrow the e-book “Benghazi: The Definitive Report” becomes available. I’m going to download it, but it’s not sourced AT ALL apparently.


  75. heysoos
    75 | February 11, 2013 3:22 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    or….hey, I’m a pious guy but I dig sport fishing too


  76. brookly red
    76 | February 11, 2013 3:22 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    OT

    I wish the Pope had said he was resigning “to spend more time with his family.”

    I wish he had excommunicated Pelosie first…


  77. darkwords
    77 | February 11, 2013 3:23 pm

    @ 73 buzzsawmonkey: Heh!!! still time.


  78. heysoos
    78 | February 11, 2013 3:24 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    FOX needs to put up a one hour, prime time gig exposing Benghazi and the cowardice of the CinC and his Sec State
    Preaching to the choir.
    Most people who watch FNC already know the story, and the rest will diesregard anything they show anyway.

    think positive…it ain’t over yet…you give us reasons to not try, I’ll fight with a rock and a stick


  79. citizen_q
    79 | February 11, 2013 3:24 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    FOX needs to put up a one hour, prime time gig exposing Benghazi and the cowardice of the CinC and his Sec State

    Apparently there is no need /////

    White House: All questions answered on Benghazi attack

    The White House has heard enough about Benghazi.

    White House press secretary Jay Carney on Monday blasted Senate Republicans for threatening to block Defense Secretary-nominee Chuck Hagel and John Brennan, nominated to head the CIA, in a quest for more information about what President Obama did on the night that terrorists killed four Americans in the U.S. Consulate in Libya.

    “We have answered these questions,” Mr. Carney said. “The president found out about the attack in Benghazi in a meeting with his secretary of defense and chairman of the Joint Chiefs from his national security adviser. He immediately ordered those two leaders to take every action necessary to try to position forces in a way that could assist in Benghazi and also potentially take action, if necessary, elsewhere, because of all that was enfolding around the region.”

    He added that Mr. Obama was “regularly updated and kept appraised [sic] of events in Benghazi and in the region throughout that evening and into the night.”

    “Those are the facts,” Mr. Carney said.

    Outgoing Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta told lawmakers last week that he didn’t have any communication with the White House on the night of the Benghazi attack after informing Mr. Obama of the assault during a meeting at the White House late in the afternoon.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, said on Sunday that the GOP should block Mr. Hagel’s nomination “until the White House gives us an accounting” of what the president did that night.

    “Did the White House ever pick up the phone and call anyone in the Libyan government to help these folks?” he asked on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

    Mr. Carney labeled as “unfortunate … the continuing attempt to politicize an issue through nominees that themselves had nothing to do with Benghazi.”

    “Senator Hagel, Mr. Brennan, they need to be confirmed,” Mr. Carney said. “They’re highly qualified candidates for their posts. And we call on the Senate to act quickly to do just that.”


  80. darkwords
    80 | February 11, 2013 3:24 pm

    @ 76 brookly red: We could start shipping her staff wooden stakes in case they need them


  81. 81 | February 11, 2013 3:25 pm

    @ heysoos:

    They’ve already done that, back before Christmas. IIRC, Bret Baier did the reporting on it. I guess they have more to expose now, but what they had then was pretty damning.


  82. darkwords
    82 | February 11, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ citizen_q: ” What difference does it make” Parting words of some popular government honcho” I think that is the Animal House wing of the Democratic party.


  83. heysoos
    83 | February 11, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    time to double the pressure…there is blood in the water, where are the GOP sharks?


  84. 84 | February 11, 2013 3:26 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    OT
    I wish the Pope had said he was resigning “to spend more time with his family.”

    That makes total sense. Before he was made pope, he was already planning to resign to spend time with his brother, who is a Priest.


  85. buzzsawmonkey
    85 | February 11, 2013 3:26 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    or….hey, I’m a pious guy but I dig sport fishing too

    “Top ‘sky pilot’ goes sky-diving!”


  86. 86 | February 11, 2013 3:27 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I wish he had excommunicated Pelosie first…

    …and Biden, second.


  87. heysoos
    87 | February 11, 2013 3:28 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    They’ve already done that, back before Christmas. IIRC, Bret Baier did the reporting on it. I guess they have more to expose now, but what they had then was pretty damning.

    they could run the latest CBO numbers, the lawsuits, drag the CC into it, run with the CA debacle…lots of stuff, all of it…make BO accountable for his deception…at least TRY for gods sake


  88. 88 | February 11, 2013 3:28 pm

    @ heysoos:
    @ Iron Fist:
    @ citizen_q:
    @ lobo91:

    The American people do not care about Benghazi. We can wail all day about it, but most Americans don’t care or think people talking about it are crazy. I don’t like that, but it is what it is. This is not the magic bullet to destroy Obama.

    :-(


  89. lobo91
    89 | February 11, 2013 3:29 pm

    Speaking of Pelosi:

    Pelosi Not Done Exploiting Sandy Hook Tragedy: Will Bring Newtown Student To State Of The Union Because She Wants To “Ban Semi-Automatic Guns”…

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) announced Friday that she will bring a fourth-grade girl from Newtown, CT to be her guest at the coming State of the Union Address.

    The mother of the fourth-grader will also attend.

    This particular child is not a student from Sandy Hook Elementary, but Pelosi chose her because of a letter she wrote asking government officials to “ban semi-automatic weapons.”

    So now the Dems are getting policy advice from 10 year olds?


  90. heysoos
    90 | February 11, 2013 3:30 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    or….hey, I’m a pious guy but I dig sport fishing too
    “Top ‘sky pilot’ goes sky-diving!”

    I have no beef with the CC or the Pope…he’s a man, just like me but with more endearing habits I suppose…a man nevertheless


  91. brookly red
    91 | February 11, 2013 3:30 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    I wish he had excommunicated Pelosie first…

    …and Biden, second.

    I think Biden is protected by the “child like mentality” clause…


  92. eaglesoars
    92 | February 11, 2013 3:30 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    So now the Dems are getting policy advice from 10 year olds?

    Carter set the precedent -taking advice from Amy on nuclear weapons.


  93. buzzsawmonkey
    93 | February 11, 2013 3:31 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    So now the Dems are getting policy advice from 10 year olds?

    Sad to say, that would be an improvement.


  94. Da_Beerfreak
    94 | February 11, 2013 3:31 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    time to double the pressure…there is blood in the water, where are the GOP sharks?

    Hiding under Mommy’s bed… :evil:


  95. heysoos
    95 | February 11, 2013 3:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    @ Iron Fist:
    @ citizen_q:
    @ lobo91:
    The American people do not care about Benghazi. We can wail all day about it, but most Americans don’t care or think people talking about it are crazy. I don’t like that, but it is what it is. This is not the magic bullet to destroy Obama.

    I don’t care about magi bullets or bringing down BO…I care about the truth, when Americans die in service to their country I deserve to know the truth…and there are millions like me, it will not go away


  96. eaglesoars
    96 | February 11, 2013 3:33 pm

    gotta run some errands.

    be good.


  97. brookly red
    97 | February 11, 2013 3:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    So now the Dems are getting policy advice from 10 year olds?

    I guess the alleged 8 year old didn’t pan out…


  98. lobo91
    98 | February 11, 2013 3:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    So now the Dems are getting policy advice from 10 year olds?
    Carter set the precedent -taking advice from Amy on nuclear weapons.

    Of course this is exactly contradictory to what she said yesterday with Wallace. She said that they don’t want to legislate based on “anecdotes,” and that “the plural of anecdote isn’t data.”

    I doubt that she could actually define “anecdote” or “data,” but that’s not really the point.


  99. Da_Beerfreak
    99 | February 11, 2013 3:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Speaking of Pelosi:

    Pelosi Not Done Exploiting Sandy Hook Tragedy: Will Bring Newtown Student To State Of The Union Because She Wants To “Ban Semi-Automatic Guns”…

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) announced Friday that she will bring a fourth-grade girl from Newtown, CT to be her guest at the coming State of the Union Address.

    The mother of the fourth-grader will also attend.

    This particular child is not a student from Sandy Hook Elementary, but Pelosi chose her because of a letter she wrote asking government officials to “ban semi-automatic weapons.”

    So now the Dems are getting policy advice from 10 year olds?

    Isn’t that an improvement??


  100. citizen_q
    100 | February 11, 2013 3:35 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    time to double the pressure…there is blood in the water, where are the GOP sharks?

    Interestingly it is Lindsey Graham poking them.


  101. lobo91
    101 | February 11, 2013 3:37 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I suppose it’s better than taking advice from Jesse Jackson, who claimed that a semi-auto AR-15 can be used to “blow up railroads.”


  102. brookly red
    102 | February 11, 2013 3:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Of course this is exactly contradictory to what she said yesterday with Wallace. She said that they don’t want to legislate based on “anecdotes,” and that “the plural of anecdote isn’t data.”

    heh, how can you tell when a dem is lying?…


  103. Da_Beerfreak
    103 | February 11, 2013 3:39 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    time to double the pressure…there is blood in the water, where are the GOP sharks?

    Interestingly it is Lindsey Graham poking them.

    Not really. Miss Lindsey is up for reelection in ’14 and is feeling the heat… :twisted:


  104. brookly red
    104 | February 11, 2013 3:39 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I suppose it’s better than taking advice from Jesse Jackson, who claimed that a semi-auto AR-15 can be used to “blow up railroads.”

    no one needs 20 shots to kill a rail road…


  105. 105 | February 11, 2013 3:39 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I’m with you, but sadly most people don’t care. That’s why this story has gotten no traction. It’s sad and Ambassador Stevens was killed because of lack of security. Yet people don’t care, they love Obama and he can nothing wrong.

    It’s just a sad state of affairs.
    :-(


  106. brookly red
    106 | February 11, 2013 3:40 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    time to double the pressure…there is blood in the water, where are the GOP sharks?

    Interestingly it is Lindsey Graham poking them.

    Not really. Miss Lindsey is up for reelection in ’14 and is feeling the heat…

    I have been sayin his own is gonna eat him…


  107. brookly red
    107 | February 11, 2013 3:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    I’m with you, but sadly most people don’t care. That’s why this story has gotten no traction. It’s sad and Ambassador Stevens was killed because of lack of security. Yet people don’t care, they love Obama and he can nothing wrong.

    It’s just a sad state of affairs.

    nothing like a bread line to wake people up…


  108. Da_Beerfreak
    108 | February 11, 2013 3:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    I suppose it’s better than taking advice from Jesse Jackson, who claimed that a semi-auto AR-15 can be used to “blow up railroads.”

    Jesse is one of those talented few that can phuckup an iron ball with a wooden stick… :roll:


  109. heysoos
    109 | February 11, 2013 3:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I’m with you, but sadly most people don’t care. That’s why this story has gotten no traction. It’s sad and Ambassador Stevens was killed because of lack of security. Yet people don’t care, they love Obama and he can nothing wrong.
    It’s just a sad state of affairs.

    it is sad…but when you give up, it’s over…those SEALs didn’t give up and I won’t either…I realize I’m accomplishing little on this blog, but I have the spirit and so do many others


  110. citizen_q
    110 | February 11, 2013 3:43 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    @ Iron Fist:
    @ citizen_q:
    @ lobo91:
    The American people do not care about Benghazi. We can wail all day about it, but most Americans don’t care or think people talking about it are crazy. I don’t like that, but it is what it is. This is not the magic bullet to destroy Obama.

    Most people that I run into, have only the foggiest idea of Benghazi. The press has done an excellent job as an arm of the the DNC and the obama campaign to cover this up. Many still naively trust the media.

    If Benghazi were a big deal, why don’t they see it in the nightly news?

    Personally I also angry with the Romney campaign for not sticking to their guns initially, and using this as soon as it was apparent what a disaster it was and coupled with the amateurish cover-ups. I kept waiting for the ads that never appeared.


  111. citizen_q
    111 | February 11, 2013 3:45 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    All our elected officials should be feeling some electoral heat.


  112. 112 | February 11, 2013 3:46 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I’m not saying do not discuss it. My point is that its a sad day that the public does not care about a dead Ambassador.

    Obama can anally rape a 5 year old on TV and the people will still love him.


  113. Da_Beerfreak
    113 | February 11, 2013 3:48 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    time to double the pressure…there is blood in the water, where are the GOP sharks?

    Interestingly it is Lindsey Graham poking them.

    Not really. Miss Lindsey is up for reelection in ’14 and is feeling the heat…

    I have been sayin his own is gonna eat him…

    Rove’s cavalry will come riding in with TV ads blasting to to save Miss Lindsey from the EVIL minions of the TEA Party.


  114. 114 | February 11, 2013 3:49 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I don’t know if that would work with this guy. He can have everyone living in shanty towns and the people will love him.


  115. lobo91
    115 | February 11, 2013 3:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    I don’t know if that would work with this guy. He can have everyone living in shanty towns and the people will love him.

    As long as they have their Obamaphones…


  116. brookly red
    116 | February 11, 2013 3:56 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I don’t know if that would work with this guy. He can have everyone living in shanty towns and the people will love him.

    it’s already working… as we say in the business “ask you doctor…”


  117. heysoos
    117 | February 11, 2013 3:57 pm

    liberals…
    after getting pasted by Sandy the FEMA response has been dismal, many properties are still in shambles, so what does the city do?….raise property taxes
    http://tinyurl.com/cz8gyqa


  118. 118 | February 11, 2013 3:58 pm

    @ lobo91:

    You know what, that’s the sad part. As long as they feel Obama “cares” about them,. people will love him.

    I’ll tell you were the GOP went wrong. After the 2010 elections, their surrender in the Lame Duck Session set the stage for Obama’s come back. Plus they fought him with kids gloves. But that lame duck set up Obama’s re-election.


  119. brookly red
    119 | February 11, 2013 4:03 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    liberals…
    after getting pasted by Sandy the FEMA response has been dismal, many properties are still in shambles, so what does the city do?….raise property taxes
    http://tinyurl.com/cz8gyqa

    I am glad you mentioned that… a lot of libs are starting to realize that really is a dick in their ass… pardon my vulgarity but it is accurate.


  120. lobo91
    120 | February 11, 2013 4:12 pm

    Forward!

    Fun Fact Of The Day: For Every Job Created Since Obama Took Office More Than 20 People Have Gone On Food Stamps…

    . . .Since his inauguration, the US has generated just 841,000 jobs through November 2012, a number is more than dwarfed by the 17.3 million new foodstamps and disability recipients added to the rolls in the past 4 years. And since the start of the depression in December 2007, America has seen those on foodstamps and disability increase by 21.8 million, while losing 3.6 million jobs. End result: total number of foodstamp recipients as of November: 47.7 million, an increase of 141,000 from the prior month, and reversing the brief downturn in October, while total US households on foodstamps just hit an all time record of 23,017,768, an increase of 73,952 from the prior month. The cost to the government to keep these 23 million households content and not rising up? $281.21 per month per household.


  121. brookly red
    121 | February 11, 2013 4:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Forward!

    Fun Fact Of The Day: For Every Job Created Since Obama Took Office More Than 20 People Have Gone On Food Stamps…

    . . .Since his inauguration, the US has generated just 841,000 jobs through November 2012, a number is more than dwarfed by the 17.3 million new foodstamps and disability recipients added to the rolls in the past 4 years. And since the start of the depression in December 2007, America has seen those on foodstamps and disability increase by 21.8 million, while losing 3.6 million jobs. End result: total number of foodstamp recipients as of November: 47.7 million, an increase of 141,000 from the prior month, and reversing the brief downturn in October, while total US households on foodstamps just hit an all time record of 23,017,768, an increase of 73,952 from the prior month. The cost to the government to keep these 23 million households content and not rising up? $281.21 per month per household.

    well we should automatically sign people up for foodstamps when they file for underemployment, it could reduce the state workforce and save a lot of money…


  122. Prebanned
    122 | February 11, 2013 4:18 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    liberals…
    after getting pasted by Sandy the FEMA response has been dismal, many properties are still in shambles, so what does the city do?….raise property taxes
    http://tinyurl.com/cz8gyqa
    I am glad you mentioned that… a lot of libs are starting to realize that really is a dick in their ass… pardon my vulgarity but it is accurate.

    Ahh the sweet taste of liberal tears!

    No matter how bad things get for America, the liberal areas are going to suffer more.
    They have more biological government infrastructure.


  123. lobo91
    123 | February 11, 2013 4:21 pm

    @ brookly red:

    well we should automatically sign people up for foodstamps when they file for underemployment, it could reduce the state workforce and save a lot of money…

    Which is why it won’t happen


  124. 124 | February 11, 2013 4:23 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    We have Boxer and Feinstein. And Nancy Pelosi, or as I call them, the Stygeon Witches.


  125. 125 | February 11, 2013 4:25 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Going to “rural America” to sell gun control?
    That’ll go over like a lead zeppelin.


  126. Speranza
    126 | February 11, 2013 4:25 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    We have Boxer and Feinstein. And Nancy Pelosi, or as I call them, the Stygeon Witches.

    The Unholy Trinity or Macbeth’s three witches.


  127. Speranza
    127 | February 11, 2013 4:28 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Going to “rural America” to sell gun control?
    That’ll go over like a lead zeppelin.

    A great rock band!


  128. 128 | February 11, 2013 4:35 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Starving people in theUkraine loved Uncle Joe Stalin. Cults of Personality are scary things. It would be bad enough if Obama were doing something to merit respect, let alone reverence, but he isn’t.


  129. 129 | February 11, 2013 4:37 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Flyboy’s favorite. That and Rush.


  130. heysoos
    130 | February 11, 2013 4:55 pm

    well, I’m outa news…
    time to bitch or play some blues….hmmm


  131. Guggi
    131 | February 11, 2013 5:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Even the Washington Post isn’t buying this bullshit. Obama really does think the American people are dumb. I gues he figures if 51% of us voted for him, 51% of us are terminally stupid.

    No, no, only 29.3 % voted for him (voter turnout: 57.5 %)


  132. brookly red
    132 | February 11, 2013 5:04 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Even the Washington Post isn’t buying this bullshit. Obama really does think the American people are dumb. I gues he figures if 51% of us voted for him, 51% of us are terminally stupid.

    No, no, only 29.3 % voted for him (voter turnout: 57.5 %)

    much less when you figure in voter fraud


  133. coldwarrior
    133 | February 11, 2013 5:07 pm

    @ lobo91:

    DAMN! what a awful stat.


  134. Guggi
    134 | February 11, 2013 5:08 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    much less when you figure in voter fraud

    This is indeed a dangerous problem in your country. I guess no other nation with democratic principles (republic or kingdom or….) has such a serious voter fraud problem like the U.S.A.


  135. brookly red
    135 | February 11, 2013 5:10 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    much less when you figure in voter fraud

    This is indeed a dangerous problem in your country. I guess no other nation with democratic principles (republic or kingdom or….) has such a serious voter fraud problem like the U.S.A.

    in America even the dead can vote! what a great country…


  136. Guggi
    136 | February 11, 2013 5:13 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    in America even the dead can vote! what a great country…

    What is this: gallows humor ? :-)


  137. 137 | February 11, 2013 5:16 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Yet Democrats assure us that reqiring ID to vote is RAAAAACIST. Nevermind that all other Western Democracies require positive ID to vote.


  138. brookly red
    138 | February 11, 2013 5:16 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    in America even the dead can vote! what a great country…

    What is this: gallows humor ?

    In a way… we don’t defend our borders, our elections or our culture. Might as well hang our selves.


  139. lobo91
    139 | February 11, 2013 5:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Yet Democrats assure us that reqiring ID to vote is RAAAAACIST. Nevermind that all other Western Democracies require positive ID to vote.

    My favorite is when they claim that there’s no problem with voter fraud, and that it’s just something Republicans made up recently.

    The cliche about the dead voting in Chicago has been around since long before I was born. Everyone knows that elections are routinely stolen in Dem strongholds.

    The BBC America show Copper had an episode that took place on election day of 1864. There was a bar right next to the polling station, and they had a steady stream of guys who came into the bar to get a new name to vote under. When they came back, they got a free drink as payment, and another name. It was supervised by the police.


  140. Guggi
    140 | February 11, 2013 5:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Yet Democrats assure us that reqiring ID to vote is RAAAAACIST. Nevermind that all other Western Democracies require positive ID to vote.

    In my country you can only vote if you are on the voters list and you have to show either your ID or your passport. A driver licence is not accepted.


  141. brookly red
    141 | February 11, 2013 5:21 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    Yet Democrats assure us that reqiring ID to vote is RAAAAACIST. Nevermind that all other Western Democracies require positive ID to vote.

    I don’t consider our last election legitimate


  142. lobo91
    142 | February 11, 2013 5:25 pm

    @ Guggi:

    In my country you can only vote if you are on the voters list and you have to show either your ID or your passport. A driver licence is not accepted.

    In the US, we don’t have IDs issued by the federal government. A drivers license issued by your state of residence is the primary form of ID most Americans have.

    And the majority of Americans don’t have passports. Of course, Europeans look down on Americans because of that, but they don’t consider the fact that we live in a huge country. It’s not like we can hop on a train and go to another country for lunch like many people in Europe can.


  143. lobo91
    143 | February 11, 2013 5:26 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I don’t consider our last election legitimate

    Anyone who does is a fool.

    Or a Democrat.

    I suppose that’s redundant…


  144. brookly red
    144 | February 11, 2013 5:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Yet Democrats assure us that reqiring ID to vote is RAAAAACIST. Nevermind that all other Western Democracies require positive ID to vote.

    My favorite is when they claim that there’s no problem with voter fraud, and that it’s just something Republicans made up recently.

    The cliche about the dead voting in Chicago has been around since long before I was born. Everyone knows that elections are routinely stolen in Dem strongholds.

    The BBC America show Copper had an episode that took place on election day of 1864. There was a bar right next to the polling station, and they had a steady stream of guys who came into the bar to get a new name to vote under. When they came back, they got a free drink as payment, and another name. It was supervised by the police.

    if it was up to me I would make both voter fraud and identity theft a hanging offense… as well as offering or accepting a bribe…and if someone in a foreign land commits credit card fraud it’s OK to drone them. Enough of this bullshit.


  145. brookly red
    145 | February 11, 2013 5:28 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    In the US, we don’t have IDs issued by the federal government. A drivers license issued by your state of residence is the primary form of ID most Americans have.

    Mohammad Atta had FIVE drivers licences


  146. brookly red
    146 | February 11, 2013 5:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I don’t consider our last election legitimate

    Anyone who does is a fool.

    Or a Democrat.

    I suppose that’s redundant…

    hey is it foolish to have someone else pay your way? they look at us as foolish for working.


  147. lobo91
    147 | February 11, 2013 5:30 pm

    Speaking of fools:

    Chicago Police Superintendent: “Chicago Does Not Have Strict Gun Laws”…

    Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy implored the press Monday to stop characterizing the city as being strict on guns.

    “One of the things that I would like to again try to clear up, and I ask you to please stop adopting the rhetoric of the gun advocates,” Mr. McCarthy said. “Chicago does not have strict gun laws.” [...]

    Despite the superintendent’s claims, Chicago has some of the strictest gun-control mandates in the country. “Assault weapons” and high-capacity magazines are completely banned and, until a 2010 Supreme Court decision, so were handguns.

    Another example of why you shouldn’t equate statements made by policially appointed police chiefs with the views of actual cops.


  148. 148 | February 11, 2013 5:31 pm

    @ brookly red:

    But if you’d asked him to show one to vote, you’d be a RAAAAACIST! 8O


  149. lobo91
    149 | February 11, 2013 5:31 pm

    @ brookly red:

    and if someone in a foreign land commits credit card fraud it’s OK to drone them. Enough of this bullshit.

    We’d have to kill off the entire populations of some African or eastern European countries in that case…


  150. brookly red
    150 | February 11, 2013 5:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    and if someone in a foreign land commits credit card fraud it’s OK to drone them. Enough of this bullshit.

    We’d have to kill off the entire populations of some eastern European countries in that case…

    you know for some reason that historically just keeps happening…


  151. 151 | February 11, 2013 5:38 pm

    Speranza -- are you caught up with “Ripper Street” yet?


  152. buzzsawmonkey
    152 | February 11, 2013 5:38 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I don’t consider our last election legitimate

    Hey, it was stolen fair and square.


  153. brookly red
    153 | February 11, 2013 5:39 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    But if you’d asked him to show one to vote, you’d be a RAAAAACIST!

    Double jeopardy. I have already been declared a raaaacist by the word’s foremost authority, I am a racist and a global warming denier :)


  154. 154 | February 11, 2013 5:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    My favorite is when they claim that there’s no problem with voter fraud, and that it’s just something Republicans made up recently.

    Without consistent, systematic controls like ID checks against legitimated voter registration, how can anyone discount fraud?

    Corporations have outside auditors to confirm the veracity of in-house accounting to the stockholders, we should be afforded the same protection.


  155. brookly red
    155 | February 11, 2013 5:44 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Without consistent, systematic controls like ID checks against legitimated voter registration, how can anyone discount fraud?

    easy just charge less than the going rate


  156. Guggi
    156 | February 11, 2013 5:46 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    eastern European countries

    Romania. e.g. :-(


  157. 157 | February 11, 2013 5:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    “One of the things that I would like to again try to clear up, and I ask you to please stop adopting the rhetoric of the gun advocates,” Mr. McCarthy said. “Chicago does not have strict gun laws.” [...]

    And this on the heels of Pelosi saying that Washington doesn’t have a spending problem. My dear mother told me that “saying doesn’t make it so“…..she didn’t live long enough to see that basic wisdom actually called into question by these rogues and charlatans.


  158. brookly red
    158 | February 11, 2013 5:54 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    “One of the things that I would like to again try to clear up, and I ask you to please stop adopting the rhetoric of the gun advocates,” Mr. McCarthy said. “Chicago does not have strict gun laws.” [...]

    And this on the heels of Pelosi saying that Washington doesn’t have a spending problem. My dear mother told me that “saying doesn’t make it so“…..she didn’t live long enough to see that basic wisdom actually called into question by these rogues and charlatans.

    “I did not have sex with that woman”. Dems lie pathologically


  159. eaglesoars
    159 | February 11, 2013 5:57 pm

    I think Beckel just quoted the Bible to say that Obama rules by divine right.


  160. brookly red
    160 | February 11, 2013 5:57 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    “One of the things that I would like to again try to clear up, and I ask you to please stop adopting the rhetoric of the gun advocates,” Mr. McCarthy said. “Chicago does not have strict gun laws.” [...]

    And this on the heels of Pelosi saying that Washington doesn’t have a spending problem. My dear mother told me that “saying doesn’t make it so“…..she didn’t live long enough to see that basic wisdom actually called into question by these rogues and charlatans.

    you know we should make pols do press conferences under oath…


  161. 161 | February 11, 2013 5:58 pm

    You just can’t make this shit up…

    The threat of global warming may stretch so far beyond Earth that it affects meteorites millions of miles away in space — at least according to one CNN anchor.

    “Talk about something else that’s falling from the sky and that is an asteroid. What’s coming our way? Is this an effect of, perhaps, of global warming, or is this just some meteoric occasion?” CNN’s Deborah Feyerick asked Bill “The Science Guy” Nye, head of the Planetary Society, in a Saturday segment.

    And these are the people who see themselves as our “intellectual betters”.


  162. lobo91
    162 | February 11, 2013 6:01 pm

    @ brookly red:

    you know we should make pols do press conferences under oath…

    I’d prefer to see them hooked up to electric shock harnesses.


  163. Guggi
    163 | February 11, 2013 6:02 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    “Talk about something else that’s falling from the sky and that is an asteroid. What’s coming our way? Is this an effect of, perhaps, of global warming, or is this just some meteoric occasion?” CNN’s Deborah Feyerick asked Bill “The Science Guy” Nye, head of the Planetary Society, in a Saturday segment.

    And what did Nye answer ?


  164. brookly red
    164 | February 11, 2013 6:02 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I think Beckel just quoted the Bible to say that Obama rules by divine right.

    without getting all religious and quoting scripture let me just say that I for one look forward to seeing the left reap what they have sown. I will leave it at that.


  165. lobo91
    165 | February 11, 2013 6:03 pm

    Speaking of our “intellectual betters”:

    Hollywood Moonbats Demand Obama Make Global Warming His Top Priority…

    A group of celebrities are pushing for President Barack Obama to do more to address climate change over the next four years.

    Alec Baldwin, Morgan Freeman, Susan Sarandon and Woody Harrelson are among the stars who’ve signed a letter — published Monday by the Sierra Club — asking Obama to prioritize the issue.

    The letter says: “Dear President Barack Obama, Your legacy as 44th president of the United States rests firmly on your leadership on climate disruption. Only the president has the power to lead an effort on the scale and with the urgency we need to phase out fossil fuels and lead America, and the world, in a clean energy revolution.”


  166. heysoos
    166 | February 11, 2013 6:03 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    you know we should make pols do press conferences under oath…
    I’d prefer to see them hooked up to electric shock harnesses.

    or an electric chair


  167. brookly red
    167 | February 11, 2013 6:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    you know we should make pols do press conferences under oath…

    I’d prefer to see them hooked up to electric shock harnesses.

    no really, for an elected official to knowingly make a false statement should be perjury


  168. eaglesoars
    168 | February 11, 2013 6:05 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    A group of celebrities are pushing for President Barack Obama to do more to address climate change over the next four years.

    They won’t be disappointed. He’s going to go after coal.


  169. lobo91
    169 | February 11, 2013 6:05 pm

    @ brookly red:

    no really, for an elected official to knowingly make a false statement should be perjury

    Unfortunately, members of Congress are exempt, according to the Constitution.


  170. lobo91
    170 | February 11, 2013 6:06 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    A group of celebrities are pushing for President Barack Obama to do more to address climate change over the next four years.
    They won’t be disappointed. He’s going to go after coal.

    That’s not really because of “climate change,” though. It’s so he can further enrich his cronies in the “green energy” sector.


  171. brookly red
    171 | February 11, 2013 6:07 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    A group of celebrities are pushing for President Barack Obama to do more to address climate change over the next four years.

    They won’t be disappointed. He’s going to go after coal.

    in the meantime we can ban the use of electricity for entertainment purposes :)


  172. Speranza
    172 | February 11, 2013 6:07 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Speranza — are you caught up with “Ripper Street” yet?

    I just got the tape from my friend, watching it tonight.


  173. brookly red
    173 | February 11, 2013 6:09 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    no really, for an elected official to knowingly make a false statement should be perjury

    Unfortunately, members of Congress are exempt, according to the Constitution.

    you know I keep looking for ways to fix this mess without bloodshed, but you keep pulling the rug out from under me :)


  174. 174 | February 11, 2013 6:15 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    no really, for an elected official to knowingly make a false statement should be perjury

    There should absolutely be a price to be paid in the short term, particularly when the press is oft aiding and abetting some of these people.

    Our “watchdog” press is eating treats from the hands of politicians and the political machine is oft fixing elections. This is the stuff that feeds uprising and revolt; it’s no wonder they’re frantic to implement gun control.


  175. Speranza
    175 | February 11, 2013 6:16 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    A group of celebrities are pushing for President Barack Obama to do more to address climate change over the next four years.

    They won’t be disappointed. He’s going to go after coal.

    I’d like to know what their carbon footprint is like.


  176. buzzsawmonkey
    176 | February 11, 2013 6:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    no really, for an elected official to knowingly make a false statement should be perjury

    Unfortunately, members of Congress are exempt, according to the Constitution.

    Not quite. Members of Congress are exempt from being held legally accountable for what they say on the floor of Congress, except when under oath—but they are not exempt from all perjury charges.


  177. brookly red
    177 | February 11, 2013 6:18 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    no really, for an elected official to knowingly make a false statement should be perjury

    There should absolutely be a price to be paid in the short term, particularly when the press is oft aiding and abetting some of these people.

    Our “watchdog” press is eating treats from the hands of politicians and the political machine is oft fixing elections. This is the stuff that feeds uprising and revolt; it’s no wonder they’re frantic to implement gun control.

    I wish I could say you were wrong…


  178. 178 | February 11, 2013 6:20 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    And what did Nye answer ?

    Feyerick, who had earlier quizzed Nye about the possible link between global warming and the weekend snowstorm, was referring to Asteroid 2012 DA14, which will whiz within 17,000 miles or so of Earth on Feb 15. The asteroid’s relatively close trajectory on its latest pass of Earth has been extensively covered in recent weeks.

    “No, no, no, no,” Nye replied to the spaced-out question, before gracefully extending Feyerick a lifeline by saying “except it’s all science. The word meteorology and the word meteor come from the same root, so, uhh…”

    Several of Nye’s fellow scientists were less diplomatic.

    “Nye was good enough to respond with what sounded like a non-sequitur … instead of saying, ‘No, dummy,’” noted Popular Science’s website.

    “Dinosaurs unavailable for comment,” one person slyly commented on Twitter.
    Most asteroids are leftovers from the formation of our solar system about 4.6 billion years ago, noted Space.com, making it impossible for it or anything else hurtling through space to be affected by changes in Earth’s atmosphere.


  179. brookly red
    179 | February 11, 2013 6:23 pm

    Most asteroids are leftovers from the formation of our solar system about 4.6 billion years ago,

    so is Nancy Pelosie… what’s you point?


  180. lobo91
    180 | February 11, 2013 6:24 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Not quite. Members of Congress are exempt from being held legally accountable for what they say on the floor of Congress, except when under oath—but they are not exempt from all perjury charges.

    Close enough.

    You’d never be able to prosecute them for most false statements, anyway, because they could always claim that it was opinion.


  181. heysoos
    181 | February 11, 2013 6:24 pm

    politicians should be kept in cages to minimize the harm they do…feed them once a day…maybe


  182. lobo91
  183. Guggi
    183 | February 11, 2013 6:29 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    “Nye was good enough to respond with what sounded like a non-sequitur … instead of saying, ‘No, dummy,’” noted Popular Science’s website.
    “Dinosaurs unavailable for comment,” one person slyly commented on Twitter.

    :-)


  184. brookly red
    184 | February 11, 2013 6:30 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Obama continues his tradition of making everything about him:

    Even Though He Was Sued By Catholic Church For Attacking Religious Freedom, Obama Boasts Of His “Work Together” With Pope Benedict…

    I pray to God I am allowed to live long enough to see these bastards receive their rewards.


  185. 185 | February 11, 2013 6:30 pm

    New Thread.


  186. buzzsawmonkey
    186 | February 11, 2013 6:30 pm

    I’ve got a bow tie—several, in fact.

    Maybe I can be a “science guy” on TV too.


  187. heysoos
    187 | February 11, 2013 6:31 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Obama continues his tradition of making everything about him:
    Even Though He Was Sued By Catholic Church For Attacking Religious Freedom, Obama Boasts Of His “Work Together” With Pope Benedict…

    I pray to God I am allowed to live long enough to see these bastards receive their rewards.

    heh…I’m almost 61…I think about that everyday…I have two grandchildren now


  188. brookly red
    188 | February 11, 2013 6:33 pm

    http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313

    if this is true and I say if even though I suspect it is… well guess the rest.


  189. lobo91
    189 | February 11, 2013 6:34 pm

    @ brookly red:

    That former SEAL is supposed to be on Hannity tonight.


  190. brookly red
    190 | February 11, 2013 6:34 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I’ve got a bow tie—several, in fact.

    Maybe I can be a “science guy” on TV too.

    /oh great and I suppose at taxpayer expense?


  191. brookly red
    191 | February 11, 2013 6:36 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    That former SEAL is supposed to be on Hannity tonight.

    people talk about their guns and revolution and all, but I think a coup is more likely… they are almost begging for it.


  192. buzzsawmonkey
    192 | February 11, 2013 6:36 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    /oh great and I suppose at taxpayer expense?

    Why at taxpayer expense? Bill Nye is paid by the networks he appears on.


  193. 193 | February 11, 2013 6:40 pm

    @ lobo91:

    His tribute to Pope Benedict will no doubt involve posting a picture of Obama walking by St. Patrick’s in New York.


  194. brookly red
    194 | February 11, 2013 6:40 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    /oh great and I suppose at taxpayer expense?

    Why at taxpayer expense? Bill Nye is paid by the networks he appears on.

    did I really screw up or are you not MS buzzsawmonkey?


  195. lobo91
    195 | February 11, 2013 6:41 pm

    @ brookly red:

    “No one who fights for this country overseas should ever have to fight for a job,” Barack Obama said last Veterans’ Day, “or a roof over their head, or the care that they have earned when they come home.”

    But the Shooter will discover soon enough that when he leaves after sixteen years in the Navy, his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks, here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:

    Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.

    I didn’t shoot bin Laden, but that sounds an awful lot like my situation.


  196. brookly red
    196 | February 11, 2013 6:42 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    His tribute to Pope Benedict will no doubt involve posting a picture of Obama walking by St. Patrick’s in New York.

    well it would be a Photoshop… O don’t walk these streets.


  197. 197 | February 11, 2013 6:42 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Mac -- and I bet she really believed she sounded oh-so-intellectual when she asked it. Meanwhile….she has become the joke of the conservative blogosphere.


  198. 198 | February 11, 2013 6:43 pm

    @ brookly red:

    He’ll get out of the Presidential limo so that Mooch can grab a quick photo taken by her OBAMAFOE!!


  199. brookly red
    199 | February 11, 2013 6:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    “No one who fights for this country overseas should ever have to fight for a job,” Barack Obama said last Veterans’ Day, “or a roof over their head, or the care that they have earned when they come home.”

    But the Shooter will discover soon enough that when he leaves after sixteen years in the Navy, his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks, here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:

    Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.

    I didn’t shoot bin Laden, but that sounds an awful lot like my situation.

    well that’s why your on the watch-list…


  200. buzzsawmonkey
    200 | February 11, 2013 6:44 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    did I really screw up or are you not MS buzzsawmonkey?

    “MS?” Microsoft? Manuscript?

    If you’re inquiring about my gender configuration, I am not now and have never been of the female persuasion.


  201. brookly red
    201 | February 11, 2013 6:45 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    He’ll get out of the Presidential limo so that Mooch can grab a quick photo taken by her OBAMAFOE!!

    nope Bloomberg would have even the Phat-mobile towed…


  202. waldensianspirit
    202 | February 11, 2013 6:45 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That would require a nasty and mutilating operation


  203. eaglesoars
    203 | February 11, 2013 6:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.

    I vagued out for just a sec and imagined that’s what in store for Obama.


  204. buzzsawmonkey
    204 | February 11, 2013 6:46 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    That would require a nasty and mutilating operation

    …which still would not make me a woman.

    No, thanks.


  205. brookly red
    205 | February 11, 2013 6:47 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    did I really screw up or are you not MS buzzsawmonkey?

    “MS?” Microsoft? Manuscript?

    If you’re inquiring about my gender configuration, I am not now and have never been of the female persuasion.

    OK my bad… then yes go be science guy… I obviously have made a grave error.


  206. buzzsawmonkey
    206 | February 11, 2013 6:48 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I obviously have made a grave error.

    Clearly you were confused by my shapely and shaven legs…


  207. brookly red
    207 | February 11, 2013 6:49 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.

    I vagued out for just a sec and imagined that’s what in store for Obama.

    well he will either retire with stolen billions or die of anal cancer in prison… the Lord works in mysterious ways.


  208. waldensianspirit
    208 | February 11, 2013 6:49 pm

    Are there still people supporting Dorner now that we know he called and taunted the parent of someone he murdered?


  209. brookly red
    209 | February 11, 2013 6:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    I obviously have made a grave error.

    Clearly you were confused by my shapely and shaven legs…

    not if front of the other posters…


  210. brookly red
    210 | February 11, 2013 6:51 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Are there still people supporting Dorner now that we know he called and taunted the parent of someone he murdered?

    well only liberals but yes.


  211. brookly red
    211 | February 11, 2013 6:53 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Are there still people supporting Dorner now that we know he called and taunted the parent of someone he murdered?

    to them it is no worse than an abortion provider having a collection agency calling… they have no souls


  212. 212 | February 11, 2013 7:03 pm

    I dig the whole “majority wins” part of elections, but when some 52% feel perfectly comfortable in openly trashing people of faith (except, gawd forbid, ISLAM), actively disassembling every institution and tradition that many of us hold dear, recklessly exposing us militarily, ruining us economically and worshipping the President in the manner of a demigod, I have a very, VERY serious problem.

    These were elections we had in ’08 and ’12, not coups and not revolutions. The party in power DOES NOT have the privilege of destroying the vanquished and riding roughshod over the last 230 years of history. The party in power DOES NOT have the privilege of defining compromise as “do it my way, I won”- the 48% still deserve to be heard, and our voices need to be respected.

    I don’t think I’m even close to being alone in getting fed up, in fact I know I’m not. Frustration is a dangerous emotion to the subject of that frustration and it grows by the day.

    In the words of Howard Beale, “I’M MAD AS HELL AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANY MORE!”


  213. lobo91
    213 | February 11, 2013 7:09 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    The party in power DOES NOT have the privilege of defining compromise as “do it my way, I won”- the 48% still deserve to be heard, and our voices need to be respected.

    Exactly


  214. brookly red
    214 | February 11, 2013 7:16 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    These were elections we had in ’08 and ’12, not coups and not revolutions.

    well yes and no, an election without voter verification is not really an election like a trial without a jury is not really a trial. But it is what we got.


  215. brookly red
    215 | February 11, 2013 7:22 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    The party in power DOES NOT have the privilege of defining compromise as “do it my way, I won”- the 48% still deserve to be heard, and our voices need to be respected.

    Exactly

    well that is the problem it’s not that our voices are not heard, they are… it is that our voices are not respected. Welcome to the jungle


  216. 216 | February 11, 2013 7:58 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Now they’re falling all over themselves making excuses for him -- probably because he praised them in his Manifesto. Must drive them nuts -- never can find a TEA Party/NRA type to link mass killings to, but here we have a Piers Morgan and other libturd fan committing obscene and merciless acts.


  217. brookly red
    217 | February 11, 2013 8:07 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Now they’re falling all over themselves making excuses for him — probably because he praised them in his Manifesto. Must drive them nuts — never can find a TEA Party/NRA type to link mass killings to, but here we have a Piers Morgan and other libturd fan committing obscene and merciless acts.

    and he is not even white… what are they going to do with that? was he influenced by zionic rays?


  218. lobo91
    218 | February 11, 2013 8:14 pm

    @ brookly red:

    and he is not even white… what are they going to do with that? was he influenced by zionic rays?

    Brainwashed by the military


  219. brookly red
    219 | February 11, 2013 8:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    and he is not even white… what are they going to do with that? was he influenced by zionic rays?

    Brainwashed by the military

    yeah thanks for having the balls to step up and post…


  220. 220 | February 11, 2013 9:18 pm

    I’ll bet السناتور ماكين’s rectum is quite wide now, thanks to أوباما!


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