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A Schizophrenic Foreign Policy And The F-16

by Flyovercountry ( 97 Comments › )
Filed under Islam, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Muslim Brotherhood at February 12th, 2013 - 11:00 am

Let’s start here, because it’ll encapsulate the entire problem with our foreign policy approach, as led by both Democrats and Republicans alike, dating back to 1928.  That you see, is the year that this fun little group began.  The entire driving principle of the Muslim Brotherhood can be best described by their very own official credo.

 “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.” 

We can pretend that they are merely some benign political party, the same let’s say as Democrats or Republicans, but they are not. Their goal, their endgame is something else entirely. They do not wish to earn political authority through winning elections, in fact they wish to do away with elections entirely. Their goal is to establish a world wide dictatorship called a Caliphate, and inflict their perverse medieval will upon the entirety of mankind. We can pretend that they are some sort of social services organization building schools and hospitals throughout the impoverished Arab street, but they are not. Those schools indoctrinate youth to the cause of jihad, which means killing or enslaving those of us who do not wish to worship their moon demon. The hospitals serve as storage facilities for weapons, which will be used to inflict their vision of sharia law upon others through the most brutal methods imaginable.

The Muslim Brotherhood is composed of several organizations, movements, and constituent tentacles, if you will. One of the more dangerous misconceptions of the Muslim Brotherhood held by our political leaders is that each of its constituent tentacles are wholly independent of the other constituent tentacles. You have probably heard of some of these tentacles in one way or another, but probably, knowledge of some of those sub-organizations will have passed by you unnoticed. Just to name a very few, they include the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, CAIR, (Council on American Islamic Relations,) ISNA, (Islamic Society of North America,) MSA, (Muslim Student Association,) Hamas, PLO, and let’s not forget the newly formed governments in Egypt, Libya, and Tunisia.

The schizophrenia comes into play of course when our senior officials pretend that we can invite CAIR into the White House in order to craft a better received Muslim Friendly foreign policy which will benefit American interests abroad, while we fight a war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, without suffering the consequences of stupidity. It is a more subtle form of schizophrenia to believe that we can help the Israelis fight off the terrorist thugs of Hamas, while aiding their bosses whom we just gifted with the nations of Egypt and Libya. Targeting for assassination the Al-Qaeda leaders in Pakistan, while arming them in Libya could only be seen as insane by anyone with two active healthy functioning brain cells. Yet, there we were in 2010, celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden, and at the same time cheering the fact that we aligned ourselves with his minions in chasing Moamar Qaddafi out of town.

Before you get the idea, and I believe you should see the larger point by now, that this is a problem isolated to the Obama Administration, hearken back to the days of George W. Bush asking Congress for permission, (and justifiably so,) to bomb Afghanistan back to the stone ages, and then scheduling meetings with his senior staff and CAIR, so that we could assure the nation’s Muslim population that we were indeed sensitive to the fact that theirs, is a religion of peace. Don’t stop with that schism either. Chris Christie, for those of you who like him as the front runner in 2016, is definitely a, “them,” and not an, “us,” when the concept of recognizing the evils of the Muslim Brotherhood might be concerned. The Republican Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam has already backed and signed legislation that establishes Sharia compliant courts when one of the litigants is Muslim, that by its nature supersedes our Constitutional Law. He managed this brain child with the help of CAIR.

I site these gentlemen as examples not to call them out as evil, but to highlight that Barack Obama and the Democrats do not have the monopoly on idiotic intentional blindness when the concept of our national sovereignty is concerned. This self destructive practice of pretending that their are good guys in the Brotherhood with which we can work closely, while fighting a war on another part of that same army of darkness dates all the way back to its birth in 1928, and transcends party affiliation. Last week however, stupidity took steroids. We have now given these same fine people who flew planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and a field in rural Pennsylvania, 20 F-16′s. They didn’t get those stripped down models that lacked our most sophisticated technology either, no sirree. They got the stealth technology, all of the electronic goodies, that can now be reverse engineered by people who’s sole purpose in life is to kill all non Muslims and raise the flag of Sharia on the White House Pole.

Let me repeat a phrase from those wonderful late night television commercials which invariably indicated another fine product from Ronco would be accompanied by an extra piece of crap to sweeten the deal, or sometimes two or three pieces of crap, “but wait, there’s more.” At the same time that we are selling those souped up super war planes to people with whom we are engaged in active warfare as combatants, and not allies, one of our oldest and dearest allies, who faces a very real existential threat, will not be sold the planes. Taiwan, who is constantly under threat for her very existence by a Chinese government who has repeatedly made it known that one day, they’ll invade, has been denied by the Obama Administration. (This latest snub is a new wrinkle. Not even that Communist thug who hated our traditional allies, Jimmy Carter, saw fit to inflict Taiwan with such a brazen political back stabbing. With this latest snub, Barack Obama has indeed broken new ground in American foreign policy.)

As a pathetic attempt to placate the critics of this, and we’ll call it what it is here, disastrously naive and moronic foreign policy, President Obama has stated that we’ll sell Taiwan a refurbishment package for her aging fleet of stripped down F-16′s. Anyone who has called the cable company with a complaint about their no longer working 6 year old cable box understands the implications of that non solution designed to deflect attention from the real problem. Our foreign policy has reached a point where we are rewarding and encouraging our enemies, and punishing our allies. There are 19 members of the U.S. Senate who get it currently, and here they are:

NAYs —19
Boozman (R-AR)
Coats (R-IN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Fischer (R-NE)
Grassley (R-IA) Heller (R-NV)
Lee (R-UT)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rubio (R-FL) Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)

The list above are those U.S. Senators who care about American freedom and sovereignty. The following list are those U.S. Senators who for reasons I find it difficult to understand have placed American freedom and sovereignty on the lower echelons of things that they find important. Here are those names, Democrat and Republican alike:

YEAs —79
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Flake (R-AZ) Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagan (D-NC)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murphy (D-CT)
Nelson (D-FL)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Toomey (R-PA)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
Wyden (D-OR)

The more astute among you may have noticed that there are some Tea Party favorites on the list of those who voted to sell our very own well being down the river so to speak. Remember them the next time they run for office on our mantle. I am not saying stand against them outright based on this singular issue, but we should at the very least make them accountable, and ask them some very specific questions. One such question should be, why would you go along with this? Another question would be, how did you serve my interests Senator, by betraying our allies and giving aid and comfort to our enemies?

Something else is true. While selling one’s soul seems to be a phenomenon that has crossed party lines with seeming ease, I can not help but notice that not a single name on the first list has a D following it. So, for those of you who insist that there is no difference between the two parties, I suggest that you give that little fact a few seconds worth of thought.

Cross Posted from Musings of a Mad Conservative.

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97 Responses to “A Schizophrenic Foreign Policy And The F-16”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | February 12, 2013 11:01 am

    Giving F-16′s to the Muslim Brotherhood is the very definition of insanity.


  2. 2 | February 12, 2013 11:05 am

    Both parties are Pro Islamic, that is why I do not get worked up anymore about this.


  3. Speranza
    3 | February 12, 2013 11:08 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Both parties are Pro Islamic, that is why I do not get worked up anymore about this.

    Actually the Democrats are worse. The Republicans are solidly pro Israel (Hagel is not a Republican in my book).


  4. 4 | February 12, 2013 11:08 am

    @ Speranza:

    But remember, Obama doesn’t see why you need an AR-15, so he wants to make it illegal. He never asked the Muslim Brotherhood what they need with F-16s. That they want them is sufficient for Obama to give them to them.


  5. 5 | February 12, 2013 11:21 am

    The Republican Governor of Tennessee, Bill Haslam has already backed and signed legislation that establishes Sharia compliant courts when one of the litigants is Muslim, that by its nature supersedes our Constitutional Law. He managed this brain child with the help of CAIR.

    Have you got a link for that? I’ve heard nothing of this. I don’t think you could get such a thing through our congress. Certainly not without it creating a stink in the media.


  6. 6 | February 12, 2013 11:22 am

    @ Speranza:

    How are they solidly Pro-Israel when they back the Muslim Brotherhood. Please explain that contradiction.


  7. 7 | February 12, 2013 11:23 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Wouldn’t there be an uproar in your state if that was true?


  8. 8 | February 12, 2013 11:24 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Oh, and a search on “Sharia Courts Tennessee” finds nothing, at least on the first page. Sorry, but I need a documentable source before I’ll believe that.


  9. 9 | February 12, 2013 11:25 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I think he confused that with the Courts Okaying building that Mosque.


  10. 10 | February 12, 2013 11:31 am

    @ Rodan:

    Most definately. Every once and a while you’ll hear of dissatisfaction with the Muslims in Little Mogadishu over on the Plateau. I can see them wanting something like this, but I’ve heard nothing of them actually doing it, nor does my google search turn up anything.


  11. 11 | February 12, 2013 11:32 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I highly doubt Tennessee would OK sharia law. There would be a political price to pay.


  12. 12 | February 12, 2013 11:32 am

    @ Rodan:

    There’s a big difference between the two. Yeah, the Courts OK’d building a Mosque. That doesn’t establish Shari’ia courts that stand above the Constitution. In point of fact, Haslem couldn’t do that, anyway. No governor can supercede the Constitution.


  13. 13 | February 12, 2013 11:34 am

    @ Rodan:

    And sharia compliant financing. Seems I remember something about that in Tennessee.


  14. 14 | February 12, 2013 11:34 am

    @ Rodan:

    Like I said, I don’t think you could get it through the Legislature. There would be big protests. Islam is not beloved in Tennessee.


  15. 15 | February 12, 2013 11:34 am

    @ mskelly:

    A few states are doing that. I know Pawlenty did that.


  16. coldwarrior
    16 | February 12, 2013 11:39 am

    i think the yeah/nay vote for the actual bill would be more in order, not just this amendment about the arms to egypt.


  17. 17 | February 12, 2013 11:40 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    As much as the GOP may love Islam and is bought off by them, they know Tennessee is a base state. If they pull that stunt there, it would be the end of them.


  18. 18 | February 12, 2013 11:41 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    The bill was Debt Ceiling deal. But that said, I could see most Republicans voting for this.


  19. 19 | February 12, 2013 11:45 am

    @ Rodan:

    I don’t think such a thing would gather more than a handful of votes in th eLegislature. Even the Democrats in Nashville wouldn’t want to try to explain that vote to their constituents. I guess there might be a Balck Muslim from Memphis, or someone influenced by NOI from Memphis, anyway, but that would be about the extent of it.


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | February 12, 2013 11:46 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    The bill was Debt Ceiling deal. But that said, I could see most Republicans voting for this.

    f-16 is a 40 year old airplane design.

    i’m not too upset about this. the egyptians arent very good pilots anyway.


  21. 21 | February 12, 2013 11:49 am

    VA’s problem is that it is where most of the DC establishment lives. Just east of me is a foreign country.


  22. 22 | February 12, 2013 11:50 am

    @ Mike C.:

    DC-istan!


  23. 23 | February 12, 2013 11:52 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    We refuse to sell F-16s to Colombia, but we do to the Muzz.


  24. 24 | February 12, 2013 11:53 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yeah, I do not see Tennessee doing Sharia alw.


  25. The Osprey
    25 | February 12, 2013 11:55 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    The bill was Debt Ceiling deal. But that said, I could see most Republicans voting for this.

    f-16 is a 40 year old airplane design.
    i’m not too upset about this. the egyptians arent very good pilots anyway.

    And I am sure that, having F-16′s themselves, the Israelis have probably worked out some very creative ways to neutralize the Gyppo’s planes.


  26. 26 | February 12, 2013 11:56 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Just send Charles Johnson up there and the planes will crash!

    FYI I have a chucky thread at 2 EST.


  27. coldwarrior
    27 | February 12, 2013 11:59 am

    hmmm, the more i think about this the more i would have voted for it.

    we give egypy 1.3billion a year in military aid and this was not on the vote. money is fungible, so the egyptians would just buy jets elsewhere. this gives us a lack of leverage.

    how are those iranian f16s working out without spare parts? they dont fly. they are excellent paper weights tho.


  28. 28 | February 12, 2013 11:59 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I see a lovely court challenge in his future. If I were a non-Muslim, there is no effing WAY I would submit to that jurisdiction.

    When does the scuzzbucket run for re-election?


  29. 29 | February 12, 2013 12:01 pm

    Well folks, work must intrude – Rodan, send me an email when you post the thread on Clueless….


  30. coldwarrior
    30 | February 12, 2013 12:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    We refuse to sell F-16s to Colombia, but we do to the Muzz.

    sounds like racism to me.


  31. coldwarrior
    31 | February 12, 2013 12:01 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    And I am sure that, having F-16′s themselves, the Israelis have probably worked out some very creative ways to neutralize the Gyppo’s planes.

    yeah, its called highly trained and highly motivated israeli pilots.


  32. 32 | February 12, 2013 12:05 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    America’s elites have more respect for Muslims than Hispanics.


  33. 33 | February 12, 2013 12:05 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Like i said, I think Flyover has it wrong here. There’s been nothing through the Legislature to allow this sort of thing. I could see the Muzz in Little Mogadishu agitating for such a thing, but it has a whore’s chance in hell of passing.


  34. 34 | February 12, 2013 12:09 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yeah I just can not that happening.


  35. 35 | February 12, 2013 12:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    BTW – Love home to the Velvet Glove!


  36. EBL
    36 | February 12, 2013 12:25 pm

    F-16 sales are driven by funding public money to building more F-16s, not foreign policy. We could actually sell F-16s to Taiwan, but instead we give them to Egypt. No, it does not make sense.


  37. RIX
    37 | February 12, 2013 12:29 pm

    Just a thought. A Cardinal from Ghana is one of the lead
    contenders for the Papacy.
    I would be all for that, except for Obama.
    I can see him and Mooch at the Vatican eating gourmet meals
    with fine wine.
    Also convincing the Pope to do a Muslim outreach, which would
    be nothing but an exercise in Dhimmitude.
    Maybe I’m all wet here, but I can see it.


  38. 38 | February 12, 2013 12:30 pm

    @ EBL:

    It shows how much influence Islamic interests have in this nation.


  39. 39 | February 12, 2013 12:32 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Love back!


  40. 40 | February 12, 2013 12:35 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Link One. I read an original story in 2010 written by our very own 1389, having trouble laying my hands on that.

    http://prospect.org/article/sharia-scare-tennessee


  41. coldwarrior
    41 | February 12, 2013 12:36 pm

    @ RIX:

    new special report has a list of possible candidates for pope. oddly, i am not included, AGAIN!


  42. waldensianspirit
    42 | February 12, 2013 12:38 pm

    I do think LA residents are on to something wearing “Not Chris Dorner. Please Do Not Shoot” tee-shirts.

    Although he’ll then wear one too


  43. RIX
    43 | February 12, 2013 12:39 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ RIX:
    new special report has a list of possible candidates for pope. oddly, i am not included, AGAIN!

    Don’t feel bad. Once again I have been passed over for the
    Heisman Trophy & a Grammy!


  44. brookly red
    44 | February 12, 2013 12:40 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    I do think LA residents are on to something wearing “Not Chris Dorner. Please Do Not Shoot” tee-shirts.

    Although he’ll then wear one too

    I want a shirt that says “Not Rich. Please Do Not Tax”


  45. waldensianspirit
    45 | February 12, 2013 12:41 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I want a shirt that says “Not Rich. Please Do Not Tax”

    That’ll fall on deaf eyes!


  46. EBL
  47. waldensianspirit
    47 | February 12, 2013 12:41 pm

    They’re saying he’s enjoying the country side of Mexico


  48. waldensianspirit
    49 | February 12, 2013 12:42 pm

    Dr Carson for POTUS ’14!


  49. brookly red
    50 | February 12, 2013 1:08 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Dr Carson for POTUS ’14!

    *sigh* do we have to wait so long…


  50. Da_Beerfreak
    51 | February 12, 2013 1:12 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Washington Times

    Mordor is on both sides of the Potomac. Arlington and Fairfax counties have both been consumed by the darkness…


  51. waldensianspirit
    52 | February 12, 2013 1:17 pm

    If Obama had a soul he’d fire Biden, hire Carson and resign


  52. coldwarrior
    53 | February 12, 2013 1:18 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Dr Carson for POTUS ’14!

    *sigh* do we have to wait so long…

    DR. CARSON: I’ve always said if God grabs me by the collar and sticks me in that arena, that’s the only way that I’ll do it. But, no, I’m actually going to retire in June from surgery. I will still teach, I will still be involved, but I’m going to retire from surgery, so it does open up a lot of possibilities for me. I’m very focused on education and getting the populace back to where it used to be — like back in 1831 when Alexis de Tocqueville was so impressed – because an uneducated populace will fall for anything.

    And if you and you talk to most people, they mean well but they don’t have much of a breadth of education, of knowledge, of understanding of what the real issues are and, therefore, they listen to pundits on television who tell them what they’re supposed to think and they keep repeating that and pretty soon they say, ‘Oh, well that must be true.’ (Your World, February 11, 2013)


  53. eaglesoars
    54 | February 12, 2013 1:19 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Mordor is on both sides of the Potomac. Arlington and Fairfax counties have both been consumed by the darkness…

    I object!!

    I live in Fairfax Co (Alexandria). I think you unreasonably discount the hordes of military, active and retired, and defense-related workers here who are almost all conservative.

    We have hardly been consumed by the darkness.

    Can’t speak for Arlington, tho.


  54. 55 | February 12, 2013 1:20 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Reminds me of the Zodiac – people wore buttons that said “I Am Not Paul Avery,” referring to the S.F. Chronicle crime reporter that inferred in one of his stories that the Zodiac was a latent homosexual. The Zodiac repaid him by sending him a “you are doomed” Halloween card containing a piece of victim Paul Stein’s bloody shirt.


  55. eaglesoars
    56 | February 12, 2013 1:21 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    If Obama had a soul

    He was born with one. He sold it.


  56. 57 | February 12, 2013 1:21 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    What state is he from? Perhaps he’d consider a Senate run? [You know, since we aren't electing a President in 2014]


  57. 58 | February 12, 2013 1:22 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I’m starting to think he’s Rosemary’s Baby.


  58. eaglesoars
    59 | February 12, 2013 1:23 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    What state is he from

    He works a Johns Hopkins which is in Baltimore. However, it’s not uncommon for people who work there to actually live in Pennsylvania.


  59. 60 | February 12, 2013 1:24 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Obama is just a puppet.


  60. waldensianspirit
    61 | February 12, 2013 1:25 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    What state is he from? Perhaps he’d consider a Senate run? [You know, since we aren't electing a President in 2014]

    Carson’s inauguration should be ’14


  61. 62 | February 12, 2013 1:26 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    That is a far cry from having already had legislation passed and signed into law. I remember that controversy now, and thought little of it then or now. He hired an advisor from a Muslim group to help him understand how to deal with a Muslim group in middle Tennessee. Implementing Shari’ia Law over and above the Constitution that is not.


  62. waldensianspirit
    63 | February 12, 2013 1:26 pm

    Tingles At The White House For Pre-SOTU Meeting With Obama…

    People can’t see what’s going on? Sheeeeesh!


  63. 64 | February 12, 2013 1:28 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I was waiting for you to respond. I did not see anything in those links about passing Sharia Law in Tennessee.


  64. brookly red
    65 | February 12, 2013 1:28 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    What state is he from? Perhaps he’d consider a Senate run? [You know, since we aren't electing a President in 2014]

    Carson’s inauguration should be ’14

    Interesting that the only thing he did was stand up to Obama/Obamacare and people want him as POTUS… says a lot about the popularity of 0 and his policies.


  65. 66 | February 12, 2013 1:29 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Message coordination.


  66. waldensianspirit
    67 | February 12, 2013 1:29 pm

    So, do you think John Roberts got around adoption law and was blackmailed or no?


  67. Da_Beerfreak
    68 | February 12, 2013 1:30 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Mordor is on both sides of the Potomac. Arlington and Fairfax counties have both been consumed by the darkness…

    I object!!

    I live in Fairfax Co (Alexandria). I think you unreasonably discount the hordes of military, active and retired, and defense-related workers here who are almost all conservative.

    We have hardly been consumed by the darkness.

    Can’t speak for Arlington, tho.

    I was expecting to hear from you after I posted this comment. :grin:
    I have lived in Fairfax county (Baileys Crossroads) and have a fair ideal of the population breakdown. :wink:
    When I post I speak in broad generalities and abstractions. I never use a broad brush when there is an industrial paint sprayer handy to hose things down… :twisted:


  68. 69 | February 12, 2013 1:33 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I was busy with work. I am fighting with developer support for a thrid-party library we are using. I can tell that the support person I am dealing with ais abotu 23, fresh out of school, and an Obama Supporter. He also thinks he’s too smart to be doing developer support, and thus does a piss-poor job of it. I had to write a sample program to show him the binding issue I am having with their control. Maybe now he can answer my damned question … :roll:


  69. 70 | February 12, 2013 1:34 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    No, I believe John Roberts is like Santorum and Bush. He’s Socially Conservative, but economically Socialist. He agrees with Obamacare because it fits his Compassionate Conservative philosophy. Bush appointed Alito and Roberts for their societal views, not economic views. It’s just that Alito is both Socially and Economically Conservative. Roberts is only Socially Conservative.


  70. 71 | February 12, 2013 1:35 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Asking an Obamabot to answer a question is like expecting Islam to be peaceful!

    :lol:


  71. waldensianspirit
    72 | February 12, 2013 1:36 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Yet it was first written as unconstitutional and then he switched


  72. eaglesoars
    73 | February 12, 2013 1:37 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    I have lived in Fairfax county (Baileys Crossroads) and have a fair ideal of the population breakdown

    Ah, NOW I remember. I used to live there before I married – over 20 yrs ago. That place was wahhabi corridor even back then.


  73. brookly red
    74 | February 12, 2013 1:37 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Yet it was first written as unconstitutional and then he switched

    makes you wonder what they have in him…


  74. 75 | February 12, 2013 1:39 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    he probably changed his mind. I looked up Roberts records, he is NOT an economic/fiscal Conservative.


  75. waldensianspirit
  76. Da_Beerfreak
    77 | February 12, 2013 1:43 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    I have lived in Fairfax county (Baileys Crossroads) and have a fair ideal of the population breakdown

    Ah, NOW I remember. I used to live there before I married — over 20 yrs ago. That place was wahhabi corridor even back then.

    I was there from ’91 to end of ’93 on Columbia Pike across from the fire station. We might have been neighbors and didn’t even know it. :grin:


  77. 78 | February 12, 2013 1:44 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Have you read his record?


  78. eaglesoars
    79 | February 12, 2013 1:45 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    We might have been neighbors and didn’t even know it

    Quite possible. I lived on Leesburg Pike directly across the street from THAT MOSQUE. Moved out in Aug 92


  79. waldensianspirit
    80 | February 12, 2013 1:45 pm

    Sarah Palin ✔ @SarahPalinUSA

    Hey @washingtonpost, I’m having coffee with Elvis this week. He works at the Mocha Moose in Wasilla. #suziparkerscoops #idiotmedia

    That’s gooood!

    ht wz


  80. Da_Beerfreak
    81 | February 12, 2013 1:46 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Memory blank is getting dusty, make that the end of ’94. :oops:


  81. RIX
    82 | February 12, 2013 1:46 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Yet it was first written as unconstitutional and then he switched

    The entire first day of oral arguments was dedicated to determining if the
    individual mandate penalty is a tax.
    If it is a tax they could not take the case, because no one had yet had to
    pay it & therefore no one has yet been damaged.
    The determined that it was not a tax & took the case.
    Then 5 to 4 they ruled that it is a tax & therefore permissable.


  82. waldensianspirit
    83 | February 12, 2013 1:49 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    Have you read his record?

    Did you read:

    No one seriously doubts that the country’s fiscal ledger has gone awry,” Roberts wrote on a day when Congress and the White House strained to reach a last-minute deal to avert the combination of tax increases and budget cuts known as the fiscal cliff. Bigger fights over what he called “the truly extravagant and burgeoning national debt” lie down the road.

    Those are ‘apolitical’ remarks. Imagine what he’d sound like over a beer


  83. Da_Beerfreak
    84 | February 12, 2013 1:51 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    We might have been neighbors and didn’t even know it

    Quite possible. I lived on Leesburg Pike directly across the street from THAT MOSQUE. Moved out in Aug 92

    I know the one you’re talking about, I used to walk to the First Virginia Bank on Leesburg Pike not too far from there. :cool:


  84. 85 | February 12, 2013 1:54 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Alot of Democrats say that as well. Actions speak louder than words.


  85. heysoos
    86 | February 12, 2013 1:54 pm

    Boehner stiffins…
    “I don’t think he has the guts to do it. He doesn’t have the courage to take on the liberal side of his own party — never has,” Boehner said.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/12/boehner-obama-doesnt-have-guts-to-tackle-deficit/#ixzz2KiExAt00


  86. eaglesoars
    87 | February 12, 2013 1:54 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Sarah Palin ✔ @SarahPalinUSA

    Hey @washingtonpost, I’m having coffee with Elvis this week. He works at the Mocha Moose in Wasilla. #suziparkerscoops #idiotmedia

    That’s gooood!

    ht wz

    Parker is such a tool. The first sentence in her Palin hit piece:

    The Sarah Palin Story is a cautionary tale about what can happen when politics and celebrity meet.

    Hey Suze! Try to spell ‘Obama’


  87. 88 | February 12, 2013 1:55 pm

    @ RIX:

    I think Roberts chickened. He knew Obama was going to paint him as a “Radical Partisan” and he was afraid that that woul dhurt the court worse than crawfishing on ObamaCae would. I disagree with him on that, but I think that was his reasoning.


  88. 89 | February 12, 2013 1:57 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Johnny isn’t exactly the spine of steel himself, if you get my drift.


  89. 90 | February 12, 2013 1:58 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I will believe Boehner have balls when I see it.


  90. eaglesoars
    91 | February 12, 2013 1:58 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Go to her piece and read the comments.

    I don’t think Parker will be leaving Arkansas any time soon.


  91. heysoos
    92 | February 12, 2013 1:58 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Johnny isn’t exactly the spine of steel himself, if you get my drift.

    well, I give him credit where he deserves it…calling BO a coward is not just nothing


  92. 93 | February 12, 2013 2:00 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    That is very plausible as well.


  93. waldensianspirit
    94 | February 12, 2013 2:01 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    She not only has egg on her face but picked an ostrich one!


  94. 95 | February 12, 2013 2:05 pm

    New thread.


  95. eaglesoars
    96 | February 12, 2013 2:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    She not only has egg on her face but picked an ostrich one!

    iowahawk tweets:

    David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog

    There are times when we should cease the cruel humiliation of a fellow human being. This is not one of those times. #suziparkerscoops


  96. waldensianspirit
    97 | February 12, 2013 2:09 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    :mrgreen:


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