Back in 2009 the blogger we love to hate claimed Big Tobacco was behind the fight against the Global Warming Theory. He went on to paint a nefarious plot involving Ron Paul, the Catholic Church, the Tea Party, Nazis, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller, Serbs, Evangelical Christians, Kahanists, Newt Gingrich, Creationists, Fox News, Robert Spencer and the State of Tennessee as behind some attempt to establish a 4th Reich. Its been 3 years since Charles uncovered this scary plot and nothing has changed. His god-king, Obama, won re-election and that no Panzer Units have appeared in Tennessee. You would think he would rest easy and that all is well in the world. But Charles Johnson has found the smoking gun of the conspiracy.
Charles Johnson claims to have uncovered undeniable proof that Big Tobacco is behind the Tea Party. This proves his nefarious plot that he claims Big Tobacco and now the Koch brothers are responsible for. His source is some obscure environmentalist website.
Surprisingly, Charles has made no mention of Rand Paul or his new boogey men, Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal. If this is smoking gun to prove this conspiracy theory then his blog is just a dollar store version of infowars.
This is not a mentally stable man. Charles Johnson is a prime example how our mental health system is broken.
Tags: Charles Johnson, Little Green Footballs, Tobacco Companies
HIS conspiracy theories are perfectly sane and rational while all others are completly whacked out and insane. That is all.
Peer-reviewed publications are nearly as big a joke now days as the Nobel Peace Prize.
The Mad King has fallen for the classic “appeal to an higher authority” fallacy.
Sorry Charlie, better luck next time.
Should the next pope be chosen by the Cardinals or is it time to give an AL team a chance?
@ Moe Katz:
Hum… actually, I still can’t figure out why the Pope stepped down.
I’m guessing Alzheimer’s, but really, I’m not sure.
It was a complete surprise to me tonight.
Calo wrote:
I’m willing to take him at his word when he said in his resignation letter that he no longer had the strength (stamina) to properly do the job. Alzheimer’s is just one of many ailments that could drain his strength away. I think it shows good judgement on his part to act now while he still can and not wait until he becomes incapacitated.
Calo wrote:
I also thought of dementia. Another possibility discussed on HuffPo is more shoes dropping concerning Ratzinger’s role in sex abuse coverups….
Ratzinger has no dementia/Alzheimer problem, he is mentally full fit but his physical decline during the last year is apparently. His decision was founded on reason not on anything else. During the long time JPII faded away the Church was without proper leadership and he didn’t want this again.
One of the leading authors of this so called “study” is Stanton Glantz, an anti-smoke and second-hand-smoke-fraud activist since 1978:
The so called “study” was published in “Tobacco Control” a media owned by the pharmaceutical industry group BMJ
Guggi wrote:
Correction: the BMJ Group is supported (also called the “marketing arm” of) by the the pharmaceutical industry (e.g. Merck and GlaxoSmithKline)
I see that the Norks are now claiming that “earthquake” was indeed a nuke test. Magnitude 5.1, estimated epicenter depth approximately 1.0 Km (as per the USGS), I suspect that’s true.
@ Mike C.:
An epicenter depth of 1.0 Km (and there’s a margin of error in those estimates) would be EXTREMELY shallow for a natural quake of that energy level. That was a nuke.
Well, so the Norks popped a nuke and the Iragians (sic) soon will -- we got more serious stuff to deal with. You down with that? And while that thread on gun grip by some competition dude the other day was okay, it didn’t properly convey the latest techniques. So…
Heh. Hat tip -- Rigpa at GCP
Over at DesMogBlog I found this comment
Mon, 2013-02-11 17:16 — marbee
I’mm surprised that it took so long for the giant pharmaceutical corporate entity to attack freedom in this way! Given that Johnson & Johnson”s anything BUT “non-profit”, The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, funneled tens of billions of dollars into health organizations to an end, to control and push their cessation drugs, I’d say this story is just propaganda. Besides the various grants the ACS gets from RWJF (As of last on-line financial report, RWJF owned 42,343,491 shares of J&J stock). If RWJF does something that causes J&J stock to go up by $10/share, such as greatly increasing sales of stop-smoking products might, that puts many more millions of dollars into RWJFs bank account. The more J&J’s stocks increase, the more money and corrupt power RWJF has, the more studies they fund, the more advocacies they create, the more laws they push for to sell more of their products. It keeps going. They also get tens of millions of dollars in grants from the Federal Government, which they then turn around and use their 501(c)(4) (ASC CAN) to lobby the government for more money, for increased taxes against consumers and for laws which drive the need for more J&J over-the-counter products. They also run their own smoking cessation program. The ACS needs to get back to finding a cure in our lifetime, instead of the wasting the donations they have. According to their 2008 Consolidated Division 990s, they spent just about $4 million on research but spent almost $400 million on salaries, pensions, benefits and payroll taxes.
@ Guggi:
Do you smoke, Guggi?
Last I heard, smoking, while restricted (guns, anyone?), was legal in this country.
@ Mike C.:
Hitting yourself on the head with a ball peen hammer is legal too….
@ Mike C.:
In fact, telling a gun owner who smokes that he now cannot smoke is probably a good example of a bad idea. We tend to get grouchy…
Mike C. wrote:
In your ornery redneck mode early this morning, Mike.
@ Moe Katz:
Don’t worry, I’m not after yer moonshine still.
Moe Katz wrote:
My permanent state of existence these days, I’m afraid…
This is also interesting
followed by this:
‘Big tobacco’ supposedly being behind the Tea Party is less of an issue than ‘Big Stupidity’ and a piece of crap like George Soros being behind the Dems.
@ Moe Katz:
Mike, do you know Roscoe Holcomb?
@ Moe Katz:
Roscoe was the real thing. Not exactly Grandpa Jones.
You’d expect Big Marijuana to be behind the “tea” party.
Mike C. wrote:
Are they using “Home Boy Nite Sites”?
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1413778
Damn it, people, all this talk of “Big Tobacco” really has me jonesing for a cigarette.
I told myself I was going to quite last summer, anticipating that a 2nd Obama term would drive me to
smoking like a chimney if I didn’t put the brakes on it.
Good grief if that fat fuck has any one out there who actually cares for him “Please Get Him Help!”
MrPaulRevere wrote:
He is not much different then the 9/11 truthers.
Speranza wrote:
he really should be in a mental home.
Mike C. wrote:
I guess that reach out to North Korea worked as well as it did to Iran.
Decades in advance! Decades in advance! Decades in advance!
To get people out there over being taxed enough already
@ Rodan:
Only if it is a gated community
Charles “Scoop” Johnson ought to be picked up by 60 Minutes.
Rodan wrote:
Casa Johnson (what a filthy shit hole it must be!) probably is the Culver City version of 18th century London’s “Bedlam”.
He calls the “tea party” astroturf. That is a more apt description of Occupy Wall Street.
Speranza wrote:
The OWS did slow TEA Party events. Every TEA partier knew the authorities would have the OWS crowd crash their events
Calo wrote:
This morning the Vatican issued a press release saying that the Pope had a pacemaker implanted some months ago.
This is Dick Cheney territory. Not Alzheimers
Hey Charles you fat smelly bastard, the Left will never forgive you for the Killian throbbing memo so don’t waste your energy (I know that for a guy who will be 60 soon and has not exercised in years you do not have much energy in you due to physical atrophy, but I digress) and try to get in their good graces. None of them have Little Green Balls on their blog rolls and forget Mr. Rachel Maddow -- she swings from the opposite direction sexually from you.
P.S. -- your neighbors are complaining about the weird smells coming out of your pig sty.
Heh California… He went on to paint a nefarious plot involving Ron Paul, the Catholic Church, the Tea Party, Nazis, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller, Serbs, Evangelical Christians, Kahanists, Newt Gingrich, Creationists, Fox News, Robert Spencer and the State of Tennessee as behind some attempt to establish a 4th Reich.
Try that in NYC and you get a rubber room and Thorazine 3x a day…
@ Speranza:
He probably has copies of every Hitler book possible. I don’t get his Tobacco obsession.
waldensianspirit wrote:
He really is deranged.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Tea party events had slowed down (perhaps because they actually held jobs) a while before the OWS became the chic thing for the left and thier sympathizers to patronize.
@ Guggi:
I commented on that fraud on the DoD thread from yesterday.
They claim to have a website that Tobacco and the Koch brothers put up in 2002 but now say has been taken down. They can back up nothing.
Stanton Glantz is all incensed that Big Tobacco, et al, try to fight additional taxes on smoking in state after state. He has no ethics
Rodan wrote:
A guy like Pudge Johnson lives for obsessions. First it was the jihadis, then it was Creationism, Pam Geller, Ron Paul!, Glenn Beck, Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit, R.S. McCain, Global Warming, and now Big Tobacco.
@ Speranza:
I’m wondering about the tobacco obsession as well. There’s something personal in this.
Carolina Girl wrote:
the waitress that told him to get lost smokes…
Carolina Girl wrote:
I am only speculating but we do not know what type of cancer his mom (R.I.P.) died from -- maybe she was a smoker and died from lung or throat cancer. Who knows? Just a speculation.
Carolina Girl wrote:
He is trying to adopt a “populist” pose by taking on “Big Tobacco” just like that overstuffed pigeon Bill O’Reilly with his obsession with “Big Oil”.
Speranza wrote:
I seem to remember CJ posted it was liver.
@ Speranza:
I saw a speculative report today that the Norks’ nuke test was really a test for Iran. Double-fail!
@ Speranza:
But his tying everything to Big Tobacco is just ridiculous. He wants approval from the Left and because of Rathergate, they will never accept him.
@ Iron Fist:
I read the Chinese are mad at the Norks. But I am suspicious. North Korea can’t sneeze without Beijing’s go ahead.
@ Speranza:
If you see my link to a post I did 3 years ago, he was always claiming Big Tobacco as the main culprit.
@ Rodan:
Hey, remember what we were talking about the other night on the phone?
Los Angeles officially becomes a Dystopian nightmare.
Dennis Preager: Support for Dorner is troubling.
eaglesoars wrote:
Oh God that is so awful! May she be in heaven.
@ The Osprey:
Ya think? If this guy were a Tea Partier, you’d hear nothing but condemnation from the Tea Party itself, but he’s a Leftist, so some (a lot) of the Leftists support him. It is troubling, but not surprising. Bill Ayers is a long-time favorite of our Leftist President, and while he never killed anyone himself, he was a co-conspirator with those who did.
Rodan wrote:
I am no fan of tobacco but a guy like Charles Johnson needs something to hate in order to give him the same purpose in life that most normal people get from a wife/husband, children, friendships, etc.
BTW -- has this ridiculous study been picked up by the media? Have any of the conservative talk show hosts spoken about it? Because Rush and Levin haven’t. I see nothing on Twitter or on Weasel Zippers unless I missed it.
You know why that might be, Clueless McDumdum? Because unlike you, people do their research. And this clown whose feet you are kissing is a partisan hack whose studies and conclusions cannot even be remotely trusted. Next thing, you’ll be publishing the insane and moronic conclusions of Dylan Avery.
You’re an idiot Clueless. In irresponsible smearing little gnat on the butt pimple of blogosphere. If you hadn’t smeared so many good people, I’d almost feel sorry for your pathetic attempts to win back the reknown you once enjoyed.
In the meantime, enjoy your journey to oblivion.
Rodan wrote:
Not really, North Korea is a fantical, Orwellian Society that takes orders from nobody. This is not 1950.
Carolina Girl wrote:
“Fact check the ass off of it” used to be our motto at LGF. Now it is icejimmah’s mad ravings combed from various British and American Stalinist news sources.
Iron Fist wrote:
The good news never stops. /
Speranza wrote:
still I don’t think they want to piss China off…
@ Speranza:
Although the good news (if it can be called such) is that the “stealth fighter” unveiled by Iran complete with “in flight” photos looks to be an unflyable hoax.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/12/the-ayatollahs-new-stealth-fighter-takes-flight-thanks-to-irans-photoshop-brigades/#disqus_thread
Back in the day, CJ would have been all over a “fauxtograph” like this:
@ Carolina Girl:
That was pretty obvious from the first pictures they showed. The “pilot” didn’t even fit in the cockpit.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Check the headlines here on the side bar. Over the weekend I posted that it was a fake.
@ lobo91:
Hey -- I was driving by Camp Parks the other day and thought of you! (Okay, tell Leia I thought of her, too!)
That Iranian “stealth fighter” looked like an amusement park ride for 7 year olds.
@ Speranza:
Should have known, Speranza. Should have known.
brookly red wrote:
I don’t think they even understand the whole notion about “pissing people off”. They really have a cognitive problem, sort of like people I knew who were diagnosed with Asperbergers.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I mean is it a jet fighter built for midgets?
brookly red wrote:
And now you know why California is California.
This sad state of affairs didn’t happen overnight; it took decades of neglect and abuse to get to where it is today.
Carolina Girl wrote:
She’s outside at the moment, licking the snow on the deck.
Don’t ask…
Speranza wrote:
well they understand the concept of a giant stepping on a cockroach I am sure.
@ doriangrey:
Yup, We will have a show this Sunday. This will be a topic, so call in.
Speranza wrote:
/maybe they trained all those kids with the plastic keys to heaven who lost their legs (to landmines) how to fly?
eaglesoars wrote:
I remember that too. Just before the Madness struck….
@ Speranza:
The Norks still can’t piss off their only ally.
Rodan wrote:
Won’t have a telephone by Saturday…
Rodan wrote:
of course China could be totally on board and just pretending to be pissed, but I don’t see why they would do that… they seem genuinely pissed.
Speranza wrote:
If nations rode the school bus, they’d definitely be on the short one.
brookly red wrote:
The Chinese genuinely have problems with North Korea. Kind of like having a rabid pit-bull on a leash. You don’t dare let him loose, but ya can’t keep him under control either.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
That’s what lead to his m meltdown
@ doriangrey:
Damn, that sucks.
@ doriangrey:
They are more of a buffer state for them, like Burma is.
Speranza wrote:
Could be -- it’s not like Ahmadinnerjacket is ever going to be mistaken for a power forward for the Golden State Warriors.
doriangrey wrote:
They should know, they trained the dog.
doriangrey wrote:
/they could trade NK for Tiwain
MacDuff wrote:
the Chinese want stability at this point, having a wildcard in the deck like a NK/Iranian alliance with nukes too boot is not something they are likely to allow.
eaglesoars wrote:
I’m in Dick Cheney territory leading a perfectly normal and productive life with my pacemaker/defibrillator.
So, I am going to have to disagree with you eagles.
Back to work, now.
And Obama would be giving them free F-16s and tanks…
chuckie, you give me a headache.
@ coldwarrior:
Big Tobacco is behind it all!
@ Calo:
But you’re not 85 years old.
brookly red wrote:
I believe (as do others) that only Chinese fear of a reunified and free Korea is what is preventing North Korea from imploding.
Rodan wrote:
Vlaams Belaang!!
coldwarrior wrote:
He gives me the creeps. I look at him and say to myself “I would not want children around him”.
Speranza wrote:
and dont you ever forget it!
@ brookly red:
China couldn’t have been thrilled when the Pakis set off their underground test, either, and AQ Khan and the Norks were fast friends. I doubt that they are thrilled by the Norks latests test, but I bet there are a lot of pissed-off Party apparatchiks sitting around blinking at one another asking “What do we do now?”
Speranza wrote:
yes true but times change and there can be other situations that they fear more…
Rodan wrote:
Back during the 50s and 60′s the Chinese had grand aspirations of spreading Mao’s version of Marxism throughout Asia. Basically they just assumed that they would be more or less welcomed as liberators all throughout Asia. When that didn’t happen, they tried spreading Mao’s Marxism by force and, well, were more than just a little butt hurt at the ferocity and breadth of resistance they met.
They still haven’t gotten over that. They don’t cling to North Korea so much as a buffer zone, as they do the single solitary example of another Asian country that even remotely accepted Mao’s Marxist vision.
Especially after what happened in Vietnam. In 1992, after suffering as a miserable failed Marxist state Vietnam rewrote it’s constitution. It still makes the public statement of adherence to Socialism/Communism/Marxism, but there is little reality to that statement. A careful examination of the current political entity known as Vietnam shows a country that on paper claims to be a Marxist State, but in reality has rearranged itself to resemble the United States of America’s political system and economic system.
@ Iron Fist:
the chinese are pissed because this is bad for business.
@ doriangrey:
At the same time that we’re moving toward Marxism.
Ironic, isn’t it?
@ Speranza:
Yes, but if they can detach Seoul from the US, they would not care if Korea was united under Seoul, provided it was Pro-China. China and South Korea have extensive economic ties.
@ doriangrey:
Burma which is Rightwing Junta is a Chinese vassal. The Chinese are using the economic and cultural means to get nations in their sphere. If South Korea flipped to Beijing’s side, they would ditch the Norks.
But then, there would be no Juche!
@ Speranza:
There has been no new Charles pictures in over 3 years. That is a blessing for humanity!
@ coldwarrior:
i am shocked the Norks do not claim that Kim Jung Il and Kim Il Sung did not appear in the sky smiling at the Iron Fist of Juche. or that Bears were singing praises of the test. I am waiting for that.
Rodan wrote:
He must be obese.
@ Speranza:
he probably can’t even leave his house. I would hate to go over for a visit.
@ Rodan:
I think they are more concerned about the massive wave of Nork refugees that would swarm across the Chinese border if L’il Kim’s nightmare were to come to an end. China’s a big place, but I don’t know how they’d handle a few million Nork refugees.
Rodan wrote:
He has become irrelevant. No more interviews, no more pictures.
doriangrey wrote:
Rodan wrote:
I’m waiting for Obamaphiles to look for that with their own domestic demigod.
Iron Fist wrote:
SKS’s and lots of landmines would be my first bet…
Speranza wrote:
Mr. Cheetosote.
@ MacDuff:
He has already been declared a God by Jamie Fox, a Lightworker by the media and our Daddy by Chris Rock.
@ Guggi:
Check out last Friday’s Dan Rather thread at LGF. The Leftists went after him over Rathergate. They have not forgiven him.
@ Iron Fist:
Yup, I agree.
@ coldwarrior:
Great now the Muzz will start ruining the Caribbean.
Rodan wrote:
Yes that is his perpetual mark of Cain.
Hmm, they may have Dorner pinned down…
This confirms what I am hearing from Lebanese Christian peeps.
Israel appears to be readying for conflict with Lebanon
@ coldwarrior:
Damn, I loved the Caribbean! There goes the neighborhood….
@ coldwarrior:
Isn’t it easier and cheaper to just come here on a student visa and forget to leave?
/ sort of
@ Speranza:
They will never accept him and he knows it. That is why he is back to railing about Nazis, Creationists and Big Tobacco.
@ MacDuff:
Yeah, these people ruin everything.
Rodan wrote:
His “comfort zone” heh.
MacDuff wrote:
The fat fuck is like 275 lbs. Get more muscle on him.
Christopher Dorner in gun battle with authorities, source says
@ Speranza:
See my 132.
@ Rodan:
I think he is going to lose. Hopefully no police or civilians die till he’s down
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/
Seems to be live video from the air
@ waldensianspirit:
Agreed.
So his truck at Big Bear wasn’t a ruse
The people who have been on the ‘net cheering Dorner on should be exposed as soon as the sombitch reaches room temperature.
waldensianspirit wrote:
Apparently. I thought it was a trick, as well.
@ MacDuff:
Yea I thought if he was going to take on the LAPD he’d do some level of planning
obviously, the guy had no plan….hanging around was not smart, not enough options for movement and concealment
Chopper is keeping a good distance and height
Lot of daylight left
he’s done for…out of gas
I expected much more
What’s the smoke?
They’re going to miss their Django.
Whatever the issues are with the LAPD, this guy
is a cold blooded murderer
waldensianspirit wrote:
CBS says 2 deputies shot…
he’s trapped inside another cabin..guy’s crazy about cabins
Looks like a beautiful spot on earth and this narcissist ruins it and lives.
Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering
waldensianspirit wrote:
He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.
The Osprey wrote:
and sitting on your helmet won’t help…
@ brookly red:
The Osprey wrote:
then he humped it over the ridge…20mi
The Osprey wrote:
not trying to be funny…
heysoos wrote:
hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house
This is pretty much the scenario that I spoke of several days ago. I thought that he would invade the remote home of a elderly retired couple, take them hostage or kill them and then bide his time. No one’s called to interview me yet.
brookly red wrote:
doesn’t matter much now…he’s surrounded, and the CA Fish and Game guy said he thought he hit him at the other place…maybe he’s bleeding out
brookly red wrote:
I thought you were making an “Apocalypse Now” reference…
if the CA Air Guard has a gunship this would be a good time to take the it for a spin… juss saying.
@ RIX:
It appalls me no end listening the walking turds of the media fall all over themselves trying to excuse these attacks and bringing up the inherent racism in the LAPD. First of all, the last time I checked, NO ONE had done any in-depth research on the circumstances of this monster’s dismissal, yet they are all ready set go to find a way somehow mitigate what he’s done. And in the meantime, the LAPD announces, oh yes, we’ll re-investigate. By all means, let’s reward murderous behavior.
The Osprey wrote:
I was… and it’s not funny.
huckfunn wrote:
caring for hostages is difficult, should have killed them…how did some old lady untie herself?…what kind of security is that?
heysoos wrote:
It would be Ironic… America’s Most Wanted tagged by game warden.
brookly red wrote:
when it’s dark, they’ll blow a hole in the wall and gas him…my guess
brookly red wrote:
There was a report on Fox that he did get a weapon from the house that he broke into.
huckfunn wrote:
well there was that guy from the IRS…
brookly red wrote:
I think he was shot too
huckfunn wrote:
oh freaking great… hope it was not a bushmaster, the libs will go uhhh, ballistic?
heysoos wrote:
some how O has to insert himself into this… maybe they will drone him. not being snarky they just might.
brookly red wrote:
If BO had a son…
brookly red wrote:
I would. I’d incinerate the cabin; he’d be dead 30 minutes ago.
heysoos wrote:
the fish and game guys carry what? .40s ? yes, he could bleed out.
brookly red wrote:
You can’t hear people’s tone of voice in text on the internet.
Use an un-sarc tag next time.
@ brookly red:
Of course he will -- we’ll get a lecture on the racism of the LAPD and how it can drive this poor man to kill people in an attempt to get social justice.
The Medal of Honor winner from yesterday has DECLINED Obama’s invite to attend the Distaste of the Union Address tonight. Judging from the expression on his face when getting the medal from Obama, he couldn’t get away from that jerk FAST enough.
huckfunn wrote:
wonder if this will detract from his speech…
Latest cabin former owner has floor plans which the police are now using.
Ah the smoke was for when they carryied the wounded deputies to a rescue copter
Wow! The white truck is off the road and looks jammed in a gully
The Osprey wrote:
No contest…I can see where someone might just assume I was being a jerk
what’s an un-sacr tag ???
@ brookly red:
It’s been ten days and he has yet to mention the murder of Chris Kyle.
brookly red wrote:
Rush calls it “the Misstatement of the Union”. But, to your point, when POTUS is face-to-face with TOTUS, nothing can distract him.
Carolina Girl wrote:
well after this? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-hero-obama-betrayed-victims/story?id=18465024
@ Carolina Girl:
It’s actually sick,this guy has become a folk hero.
Has the sensitive left noticed that he has committed several murders,or
does that add to this cretins mystique?
Dorner used to be LAPD, but his pictures suggest LARD…
@ huckfunn:
I’m sure he’s practicing his declamation and hand gestures as we speak. I also wouldn’t be surprised if, when he introduces the Newtown “survivor”, he yet again wipes a nonexistent tear from his eye. I imagine he’ll ask for a moment of silence.
Uncle Ted Nugent is going to be there -- I tweeted him asking to make a citizen’s arrest on the illegal alien being brought by that dumbass Illinois Congress Critter.
Carolina Girl wrote:
I’m betting that Obama will bring Kyle up as a “victim of gun violence,” and go on about how “even this well-trained veteran” was helpless “even in a sport-shooting venue,” against the evil of firearm ownership.
As far as the Dorner endgame is concerned, I have only this to say:
Don’t spoil the hide! Don’t spoil the hide!
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Pumpernickel version of the Pillsbury Doughboy.
huckfunn wrote:
Damn, that’s funny.
RIX wrote:
I was thinking the same thing; whatever twisted “point” he was trying to make is actually being made. The wall-to-wall coverage is what these people are craving.
RIX wrote:
If Dorner were a Republican and had published a manifesto that expressed solidarity with the TEA Party and the NRA, we would be hearing that the LAPD was no doubt correct in his firing and this is only proves how evil and gun happy and violent the NRA and TEA Party really are.
Instead, the MSM is acting like they’re suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
Carolina Girl wrote:
Uncle Ted will have an opinion and won’t be shy about sharing it. Can’t wait.
Carolina Girl wrote:
oh… I thought you meant the other illegal alien.
I was hoping that they’d send Piers Morgan in to interview Dorner. Dorner likes Piers, and Piers would make a great judas goat.
And if Piers should be tragically caught in the crossfire when Dorner was taken down, I’m sure we would mourn with the rest of the nation.
Carolina Girl wrote:
don’t worry McGraw-Hill putting that in the textbooks as we speak
radio is talking about an accomplice…
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Piers’ deportation could then proceed apace
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Piers doesn’t have the balls.
Mental issues? As long as they don’t let him have guns we should be safe.
LAPD press conference
It’s hard to care about his grievances with all that he has done.
nobody asked about the wounded deputies yet
@ brookly red:
I was almost expecting the clams to claim that the manifesto was a fake and that he put it out there to deflect from the truth.
RIX wrote:
It’s not hard at all.
I don’t. Problem solved.
The MSM has no credibility left. Their only purpose seems to be to slobber
over BHO.
I can go with that.
RIX wrote:
what are you Ripp Van Winkel
They are talking about getting this guy alive, but we all know he killed a cop and he will never come out alive even if he wanted too. I’m good with that for my part. Save the damn trail money!
@ Tanker:
Yea, they say swat will go in. But then they did say he was in Mexico; saw a friend of his there
@ brookly red:
Just got my wake up.
the guy should never have gone into those mountains…that was his first and last mistake…he should be hunkered down in some urban area, where he can steal money and cars etc…it’s almost like he wants to get caught…why did he try to steal a boat in SD?….how is he doing all this with no money?…why didn’t he just kidnap the owner and steal the boat?…do all this crap with no alternate ID’s or boatload of cash?
There goes a swat truck
wtf? people driving up with signs saying “don’t kill Doner” CA is one sick place.
Dorner should make a good heat spot. Send in some cheetos via robot to keep his body heat up
I wonder if Obama will say, “If I had a brother, he would look like Chris”
Maybe the can allege that Dorner did nothing, he was just wearing
a hoodie.
Tanker wrote:
they should drone him… 2 hellfier’s from 20,000 feet. sift the ashes for teeth.
“You know, as a black man, Barack might be shot in a mountain cabin after murdering a police officer.”
—Michelle Obama (may not be direct quote)
@ brookly red:
They could be like Obama’s son’s teeth if he had a son
brookly red wrote:
too complicated…use NVG’s with heat optics, wait til the middle of the night, find his heat sig and just blow him away right thru the walls
Tanker wrote:
Barring the existence of hostages, there’s no reason to risk the lives of any more cops- “dead or alive” becomes “DEAD”. I’m comfortable with that.
RIX wrote:
people here where mentioning mems the other day… this guy just blew up a few of them.
This is the kind of crap being put out by the self described
“Team Dorner.”
Django Unglued.
RIX wrote:
twitter might just need to block a bunch of accounts
@ heysoos:
They are dropping off a military vehicle from a lowbed trailer
That kind of stuff is all over twitter.
Isn’t this the sort of thing that police departments used to have machine guns for? You just show up at the cabin, aim low, and grind it out.
waldensianspirit wrote:
hope it’s a A1… what link you watching?
I’m hoping for a whole bunch of demoralized progressive followers of Dorner’s before Obama’s liefest
@ brookly red:
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/
drudge has “media told to pull helicopters”
waldensianspirit wrote:
watching that… must have missed it.
And he had held these hostages for days
@ brookly red:
I was answering some text messages so it could have been 10 15 minutes ago
Imagine fixing computer problems by text but some folks are more comfortable when they can pause and think
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
that would destroy the house…typically they would shut down all his power, gas and water first…I think he may be dead already
Why aren’t we using some of these 1.6 billion rounds that DHS bought on this SOB?
One of the Deputies wounded in the shoot out has died.
they need to look at the house with heat sensors, find out if he’s alive and alone
MacDuff wrote:
Waiting to send in the social workers. /
heysoos wrote:
yes… it has been quiet for a bit. I think your right.
Speranza wrote:
oh man…bummer
“Christopher Dorner reportedly has been spotted in the San Bernadino Mountains and currently is engaged in a gun battle with the police. There is no truth to the rumor that the LAPD has convened a special commission to investigate whether anyone shooting at Dorner is a racist.”
heysoos wrote:
meh heat sensors… he turned on the stove lit up the fire place. worthless.
heysoos wrote:
The other one is critically wounded. Catch this mofo and gas him just like “Tookie” Williams.
heysoos wrote:
Repairing a mountain cabin would be cheaper than a trial.
brookly red wrote:
different signature…those guys are trained to distinguish between a Bic, a stove, a body, whatever
Speranza wrote:
they will just kill him now…I would if it were my call
heysoos wrote:
sorry a body in a heated room? one big signature
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
politics
@ Speranza:
Dorner will be a hero now.
@ Rodan:
To the left.
brookly red wrote:
wrong, trust me, a heated room is not a heated body, even at the same temp…they can find him especially if he moves…light up the target, blow the doors, toss in a bunch of flash bangs, barge in and kill him…he cannot deal with multiple targets
Speranza wrote:
Damn.
Rodan wrote:
CJ is building a shrine as we speak…
@ brookly red:
They are claiming Libertarians, not Leftists support Dorner.
That’s bullshit!
4 armored vehicles?
brookly red wrote:
good practice…they are probably arguing right now as to who gets to kill him, San Bernadino Co, State?
Rodan wrote:
this is like a sic-fi movie…
@ brookly red:
FREEJACK!!!
shooting again…they are gassing him…I’d wait for dark
heysoos wrote:
i think you called it he bleed out an hour ago…
they burned the cabin…wow
so Buzz called it
heysoos wrote:
Tear gas canisters will do that.
heysoos wrote:
well they needed to end it before the SOTU address…
ha!…they torched the guy…all this high tech wizardry and they go full medievil…that works too
so it goes from a lethal standoff to a BBQ…I love this town!
heysoos wrote:
CJ evokes WACO in 3…2…1…
@ heysoos:
Well, it worked when they went after the SLA in ’74.
@ brookly red:
He won’t evoke Waco -- that’s his buddy Clinton and Butch Reno.
The flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
Huffington Post lit up with delight
The day that Dorner died
They were posting:
Why, why did Dorner have to die?
When a negro pulls a tregro don’t you want to know why?
He penned a racist rant over which we all cry
Even though its substance is a lie
Even though its substance is a lie
Django Dorner might be a crispy critter now.
What a bitch for Team Dorner.
Carolina Girl wrote:
what was that neighborhood they burnt in Philly?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Hey, can you do one with Sympathy for the Devil?
brookly red wrote:
I remember that…torched an entire block of row houses to get one guy?
RIX wrote:
already has…his SFTD spoof is a masterpiece
RIX wrote:
cashed a check at the central bank while Chicago burned and the congress stank?
heysoos wrote:
c.o.r.e. comes to mind…
@ heysoos:
They dropped a bomb on the house the people were in and it started a fire that spread to the whole block, because they were afraid to let the fire department get close enough to put it out.
@ brookly red:
LOL. Probably true!
@ heysoos:
Missed it.
RIX wrote:
I have a conference call in half an hour, so I don’t have time to do one of those for Dorner right now; not properly, anyway. There’s this version about Obama, if you haven’t seen it: Deference to Obama.
@ brookly red:
The group was called MOVE
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Gracious.
well they torched the guy…place is an inferno, surrounded by pissed off LE…kind of a gurly approach
Reminds me of the SLA shootout.
lobo91 wrote:
yes! move… thank you! well hell yes they moved.
heysoos wrote:
They didn’t intentionally set the cabin on fire. Tear gas canisters burn at a pretty high temperature and frequently set furnishings on fire.
@ heysoos:
But guns were not used.
//
lobo91 wrote:
yes…my memory is coming back…I thought the cops wanted a certain person that inspired this thing
I don’t understand why you all seem to be sure this is over. Ammo exploded, setting the fire. No confirmation that LE fired anything that would set off the ammo. Dorner could have set it as a diversion. Nobody is going to get close w/ammo cooking off.
lobo91 wrote:
right…in other words, they don’t care about a fire…that’s fine, just get rid of him
heysoos wrote:
It was a whole group of nutcases who were squatting in a house. They wanted them all out of there.
Of course, blowing the place up may not have been the best way to go about it…
lobo91 wrote:
The entire block ended up burning down as collateral damage.
eaglesoars wrote:
/hey he was never there… mistaken identity, it was just a phat rapper who didn’t want to pay child support.
eaglesoars wrote:
The fire was started by the gas grenades they fired into the cabin. They probably lit curtains or upholstery on fire, which often happens. The whole cabin then caught fire, and the ammo is cooking off in the fire.
lobo91 wrote:
thanks, I’ll google it and remind myself…that was a hell of an incident
@ eaglesoars:
Exactly what I just said to hubby. This murderer is cunning.
Why were the two deputies not wearing body armor/bullet proof vests?
@ buzzsawmonkey:
The whole thing was stupid. Blowing up the building to evict people doesn’t make any sense. That’s like shooting someone’s cat to get it down from a tree.
he’s cooked…pass the Tobasco
lobo91 wrote:
good analogy
@ Dolphin:
Most cops wear Level IIIA soft body armor these days. It’ll stop most pistol rounds, but rifle rounds will go right through it.
Only military and SWAT teams wear armor that will stop rifle rounds.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
well democrats have come a long way since then… now with eminent domain they don’t need to actually kill the occupants to build a shopping mall.
lobo91 wrote:
I missed the part where gas grenades were fired.
lobo91 wrote:
you obviously have no clue as to the value of real estate.
@ lobo91:
Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense.
eaglesoars wrote:
no no grenades? no such thing… organic dispenser device is the PC term
@ brookly red:
It wasn’t an eminent domain case. The owners weren’t planning to tear down the house.
HAHAHAHAH Nancy Pelosi speaks!
We need to burn it to see what’s in it
Dolphin wrote:
And of course we don’t know where they were shot.
Body armor only covers so much.
Oh no! A deputy died!
lobo91 wrote:
but the developers were…
Genuis!
sift for teeth… I called that.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
I remember in 85 when the Phillie PD bombed some Black Militants.
@ RIX:
He always comes through.
@ brookly red:
He’s ex-military. DOD has his DNA on file.
in the End, Chris Dorner turned out to be just another punk…whatever training he has didn’t compensate for his victimhood mentality…all smoke and no fire
Rodan wrote:
That’s what we were talking about. It was a group called MOVE
Rodan wrote:
well that was before PC
I’m watching LL Cool J beat the crap out of 2 guys.
With his elbows.
@ lobo91:
They bombed a whole block. I was 10, I’ll never forget that.
New Thread.
eaglesoars wrote:
Dorner looks like a cross between LL Cool J and Barry Bonds.
I say he’s a ‘roid rager.
He is impossible to under estimate.
The Osprey wrote:
First pic I saw of Dorner I thought of LL. Haven’t seen a pic of Bonds in awhile.
Dorner: “I am not a Christian”
Okay, settles that
Now they’re saying he escaped!
waldensianspirit wrote:
What did I TELL you?
AP reporting he never emerged from the cabin
A shot was also fired around that time, and sources tell CBS2′s Juan Fernandez that tracks were found leading to a horse corral, which may mean Dorner was able to escape.