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Corpulent Conspiracy Theorist claims Big Tobacco behind the Tea Party!

by Rodan ( 331 Comments › )
Filed under Blogwars, LGF, Progressives at February 12th, 2013 - 2:00 pm

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Back in 2009 the blogger we love to hate claimed Big Tobacco was behind the fight against the Global Warming Theory. He went on to paint a nefarious plot involving Ron Paul, the Catholic Church, the Tea Party, Nazis, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller, Serbs, Evangelical Christians, Kahanists, Newt Gingrich, Creationists, Fox News, Robert Spencer and the State of Tennessee as behind some attempt to establish a 4th Reich. Its been 3 years since Charles uncovered this scary plot and nothing has changed. His god-king, Obama, won re-election and that no Panzer Units have appeared in Tennessee. You would think he would rest easy and that all is well in the world. But Charles Johnson has found the smoking gun of the conspiracy.

Charles Johnson claims to have uncovered undeniable proof that Big Tobacco is behind the Tea Party. This proves his nefarious plot that he claims Big Tobacco and now the Koch brothers are responsible for. His source is some obscure environmentalist website.

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Surprisingly, Charles has made no mention of Rand Paul or his new boogey men, Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal. If this is smoking gun to prove this conspiracy theory then his blog is just a dollar store version of infowars.

This is not a mentally stable man. Charles Johnson is  a prime example how our mental health system is broken.

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  1. MrPaulRevere
    1 | February 12, 2013 2:20 am

    HIS conspiracy theories are perfectly sane and rational while all others are completly whacked out and insane. That is all.


  2. Da_Beerfreak
    2 | February 12, 2013 2:43 am

    Peer-reviewed publications are nearly as big a joke now days as the Nobel Peace Prize.

    The Mad King has fallen for the classic “appeal to an higher authority” fallacy.

    Sorry Charlie, better luck next time.


  3. Moe Katz
    3 | February 12, 2013 3:03 am

    Should the next pope be chosen by the Cardinals or is it time to give an AL team a chance?


  4. Calo
    4 | February 12, 2013 3:19 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    Hum… actually, I still can’t figure out why the Pope stepped down.
    I’m guessing Alzheimer’s, but really, I’m not sure.

    It was a complete surprise to me tonight.


  5. Da_Beerfreak
    5 | February 12, 2013 3:33 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    Hum… actually, I still can’t figure out why the Pope stepped down.
    I’m guessing Alzheimer’s, but really, I’m not sure.

    It was a complete surprise to me tonight.

    I’m willing to take him at his word when he said in his resignation letter that he no longer had the strength (stamina) to properly do the job. Alzheimer’s is just one of many ailments that could drain his strength away. I think it shows good judgement on his part to act now while he still can and not wait until he becomes incapacitated.


  6. Moe Katz
    6 | February 12, 2013 4:00 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ Moe Katz:
    Hum… actually, I still can’t figure out why the Pope stepped down.
    I’m guessing Alzheimer’s, but really, I’m not sure.
    It was a complete surprise to me tonight.

    I also thought of dementia. Another possibility discussed on HuffPo is more shoes dropping concerning Ratzinger’s role in sex abuse coverups….


  7. Guggi
    7 | February 12, 2013 4:08 am

    Ratzinger has no dementia/Alzheimer problem, he is mentally full fit but his physical decline during the last year is apparently. His decision was founded on reason not on anything else. During the long time JPII faded away the Church was without proper leadership and he didn’t want this again.


  8. Guggi
    8 | February 12, 2013 4:15 am

    One of the leading authors of this so called “study” is Stanton Glantz, an anti-smoke and second-hand-smoke-fraud activist since 1978:

    Additionally, “Dr.” Glantz appears to have some difficulty reconciling himself to publicly admitting his funding bases and the clear conflict of interest he has when dealing with the subjects of smoking and secondary smoke. Despite several clear challenges in the British Medical Journal to admit such with regard to the “Great Helena Heart Fraud” study he has refused to correct his “No conflicting interests” statement there. Why is this so significant? Simply because when someone for the other “side” of the issue has any merest iota of possible conflict of interest because they once went to a tobacco industry conference or, heaven forfend, allowed a tobacco company to purchase and use any of their work, that person is raked over the coals and forever after branded a “tobacco company mouthpiece.”

    The so called “study” was published in “Tobacco Control” a media owned by the pharmaceutical industry group BMJ


  9. Guggi
    9 | February 12, 2013 4:35 am

    Guggi wrote:

    a media owned by the pharmaceutical industry group BMJ

    Correction: the BMJ Group is supported (also called the “marketing arm” of) by the the pharmaceutical industry (e.g. Merck and GlaxoSmithKline)


  10. 10 | February 12, 2013 4:35 am

    I see that the Norks are now claiming that “earthquake” was indeed a nuke test. Magnitude 5.1, estimated epicenter depth approximately 1.0 Km (as per the USGS), I suspect that’s true.


  11. 11 | February 12, 2013 4:52 am

    @ Mike C.:

    An epicenter depth of 1.0 Km (and there’s a margin of error in those estimates) would be EXTREMELY shallow for a natural quake of that energy level. That was a nuke.


  12. 12 | February 12, 2013 5:25 am

    Well, so the Norks popped a nuke and the Iragians (sic) soon will -- we got more serious stuff to deal with. You down with that? And while that thread on gun grip by some competition dude the other day was okay, it didn’t properly convey the latest techniques. So…

    Heh. Hat tip -- Rigpa at GCP


  13. Guggi
    13 | February 12, 2013 6:37 am

    Over at DesMogBlog I found this comment :-)

    Mon, 2013-02-11 17:16 — marbee
    I’mm surprised that it took so long for the giant pharmaceutical corporate entity to attack freedom in this way! Given that Johnson & Johnson”s anything BUT “non-profit”, The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, funneled tens of billions of dollars into health organizations to an end, to control and push their cessation drugs, I’d say this story is just propaganda. Besides the various grants the ACS gets from RWJF (As of last on-line financial report, RWJF owned 42,343,491 shares of J&J stock). If RWJF does something that causes J&J stock to go up by $10/share, such as greatly increasing sales of stop-smoking products might, that puts many more millions of dollars into RWJFs bank account. The more J&J’s stocks increase, the more money and corrupt power RWJF has, the more studies they fund, the more advocacies they create, the more laws they push for to sell more of their products. It keeps going. They also get tens of millions of dollars in grants from the Federal Government, which they then turn around and use their 501(c)(4) (ASC CAN) to lobby the government for more money, for increased taxes against consumers and for laws which drive the need for more J&J over-the-counter products. They also run their own smoking cessation program. The ACS needs to get back to finding a cure in our lifetime, instead of the wasting the donations they have. According to their 2008 Consolidated Division 990s, they spent just about $4 million on research but spent almost $400 million on salaries, pensions, benefits and payroll taxes.


  14. Moe Katz
    14 | February 12, 2013 6:50 am

    @ Guggi:
    Do you smoke, Guggi?


  15. 15 | February 12, 2013 6:59 am

    Last I heard, smoking, while restricted (guns, anyone?), was legal in this country.


  16. Moe Katz
    16 | February 12, 2013 7:00 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Hitting yourself on the head with a ball peen hammer is legal too….


  17. 17 | February 12, 2013 7:00 am

    @ Mike C.:

    In fact, telling a gun owner who smokes that he now cannot smoke is probably a good example of a bad idea. We tend to get grouchy…


  18. Moe Katz
    18 | February 12, 2013 7:03 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    In fact, telling a gun owner who smokes that he now cannot smoke is probably a good example of a bad idea. We tend to get grouchy…

    In your ornery redneck mode early this morning, Mike.


  19. Moe Katz
    19 | February 12, 2013 7:07 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    Don’t worry, I’m not after yer moonshine still.


  20. 20 | February 12, 2013 7:28 am

    Moe Katz wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    @ Mike C.:
    In fact, telling a gun owner who smokes that he now cannot smoke is probably a good example of a bad idea. We tend to get grouchy…
    In your ornery redneck mode early this morning, Mike.

    My permanent state of existence these days, I’m afraid…


  21. Guggi
    21 | February 12, 2013 7:34 am

    This is also interesting

    To the average non-smoker as I am, it might appear that the American Lung Association, American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, American Non-Smoker’s Rights, the American Medical Association, countless research Universities around the country, etc. are lobbying our politicians for smoking bans for health reasons.However, upon some investigation it is clear that these NGO’s are backed by $446,000,000.00 + from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF) which has direct ties to the Johnson & Johnson Company, and J & J is the manufacturer of Nicoderm & Nicoderm CQ via its wholly owned subsidiary ALZA. Recently, the buyout of Pfizer Consumer Health means J & J profits even more from the passage of smoking bans thru additional sales of Nicotrol, Nicorette, and Commit alternative nicotine products.

    followed by this:

    RWJF funds and promotes universal healthcare policies which are the basis for and primary objective of Obamacare

    RWJF STRATEGY
    For more than 30 years, RWJF has been concerned about Americans’ lack of access to affordable and stable health care coverage. RWJF has funded studies, demonstration projects and symposia about this problem.
    In 1997, Congress funded the State Children’s Health Insurance Program with the aim of providing health insurance coverage to children who were not eligible for private or public insurance programs. That same year, RWJF created Covering Kids® (see Grant Results). In 2001, RWJF reshaped the program and renamed it Covering Kids & Families®, reflecting the Foundation’s commitment to help states also cover parents and other adults who work in jobs that do not provide health coverage for them or their children.
    Through a series of State Coverage Initiatives, RWJF assisted states in developing and implementing policies that made health care insurance more available and affordable to low-income residents. RWJF also created State Solutions: An Initiative to Improve Enrollment in Medicare Savings Programs, a national program to maximize enrollment in Medicaid, Medicare and other health insurance programs. Communities in Charge: Financing and Delivering Health Care to the Uninsured is a national program to help cities or counties improve access to care for low-income, uninsured individuals by changing the organization and financing of local care delivery (see Grant Results). The Access Project began work to improve health and health care in 1998 (see Grant Results).
    RWJF also has supported other efforts to enhance Americans’ access to health care coverage, including:
    •Understanding costs and financing mechanisms through Changes in Health Care Financing and Organization (for more information see Grant Results).
    •Analyzing proposals to expand coverage through the Economic & Social Research Institute’s Covering America project.
    •Helping states plan and develop insurance market reforms to expand health coverage for the uninsured through State Initiatives in Health Care Reform.
    •Increasing awareness among policy-makers and action by the general public through Cover the Uninsured Week


  22. 22 | February 12, 2013 7:34 am

    ‘Big tobacco’ supposedly being behind the Tea Party is less of an issue than ‘Big Stupidity’ and a piece of crap like George Soros being behind the Dems.


  23. Moe Katz
    23 | February 12, 2013 8:32 am

    @ Moe Katz:

    Mike, do you know Roscoe Holcomb?


  24. Moe Katz
    24 | February 12, 2013 8:46 am

    @ Moe Katz:
    Roscoe was the real thing. Not exactly Grandpa Jones.


  25. buzzsawmonkey
    25 | February 12, 2013 9:44 am

    You’d expect Big Marijuana to be behind the “tea” party.


  26. The Osprey
    26 | February 12, 2013 10:25 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    Well, so the Norks popped a nuke and the Iragians (sic) soon will — we got more serious stuff to deal with. You down with that? And while that thread on gun grip by some competition dude the other day was okay, it didn’t properly convey the latest techniques. So…

    Heh. Hat tip — Rigpa at GCP

    Are they using “Home Boy Nite Sites”?
    http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1413778


  27. The Osprey
    27 | February 12, 2013 10:29 am

    Damn it, people, all this talk of “Big Tobacco” really has me jonesing for a cigarette.
    I told myself I was going to quite last summer, anticipating that a 2nd Obama term would drive me to
    smoking like a chimney if I didn’t put the brakes on it. :mad:


  28. Speranza
    28 | February 12, 2013 2:02 pm

    Good grief if that fat fuck has any one out there who actually cares for him “Please Get Him Help!”


  29. Speranza
    29 | February 12, 2013 2:03 pm

    MrPaulRevere wrote:

    HIS conspiracy theories are perfectly sane and rational while all others are completly whacked out and insane. That is all.

    He is not much different then the 9/11 truthers.


  30. 30 | February 12, 2013 2:05 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Good grief if that fat fuck has any one out there who actually cares for him “Please Get Him Help!”

    he really should be in a mental home.


  31. Speranza
    31 | February 12, 2013 2:05 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    I see that the Norks are now claiming that “earthquake” was indeed a nuke test. Magnitude 5.1, estimated epicenter depth approximately 1.0 Km (as per the USGS), I suspect that’s true.

    I guess that reach out to North Korea worked as well as it did to Iran.


  32. waldensianspirit
    32 | February 12, 2013 2:05 pm

    Decades in advance! Decades in advance! Decades in advance!

    To get people out there over being taxed enough already


  33. waldensianspirit
    33 | February 12, 2013 2:06 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Only if it is a gated community


  34. Speranza
    34 | February 12, 2013 2:06 pm

    Charles “Scoop” Johnson ought to be picked up by 60 Minutes.


  35. Speranza
    35 | February 12, 2013 2:07 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Good grief if that fat fuck has any one out there who actually cares for him “Please Get Him Help!”

    he really should be in a mental home.

    Casa Johnson (what a filthy shit hole it must be!) probably is the Culver City version of 18th century London’s “Bedlam”.


  36. Speranza
    36 | February 12, 2013 2:09 pm

    He calls the “tea party” astroturf. That is a more apt description of Occupy Wall Street.


  37. waldensianspirit
    37 | February 12, 2013 2:11 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    He calls the “tea party” astroturf. That is a more apt description of Occupy Wall Street.

    The OWS did slow TEA Party events. Every TEA partier knew the authorities would have the OWS crowd crash their events


  38. eaglesoars
    38 | February 12, 2013 2:11 pm

    Calo wrote:

    Hum… actually, I still can’t figure out why the Pope stepped down.
    I’m guessing Alzheimer’s, but really, I’m not sure.

    This morning the Vatican issued a press release saying that the Pope had a pacemaker implanted some months ago.

    This is Dick Cheney territory. Not Alzheimers


  39. Speranza
    39 | February 12, 2013 2:11 pm

    Hey Charles you fat smelly bastard, the Left will never forgive you for the Killian throbbing memo so don’t waste your energy (I know that for a guy who will be 60 soon and has not exercised in years you do not have much energy in you due to physical atrophy, but I digress) and try to get in their good graces. None of them have Little Green Balls on their blog rolls and forget Mr. Rachel Maddow -- she swings from the opposite direction sexually from you.

    P.S. -- your neighbors are complaining about the weird smells coming out of your pig sty.


  40. brookly red
    40 | February 12, 2013 2:13 pm

    Heh California… He went on to paint a nefarious plot involving Ron Paul, the Catholic Church, the Tea Party, Nazis, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller, Serbs, Evangelical Christians, Kahanists, Newt Gingrich, Creationists, Fox News, Robert Spencer and the State of Tennessee as behind some attempt to establish a 4th Reich.

    Try that in NYC and you get a rubber room and Thorazine 3x a day…


  41. 41 | February 12, 2013 2:13 pm

    @ Speranza:

    He probably has copies of every Hitler book possible. I don’t get his Tobacco obsession.


  42. 42 | February 12, 2013 2:14 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Only if it is a gated community

    He really is deranged.


  43. Speranza
    43 | February 12, 2013 2:16 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    He calls the “tea party” astroturf. That is a more apt description of Occupy Wall Street.

    The OWS did slow TEA Party events. Every TEA partier knew the authorities would have the OWS crowd crash their events

    Tea party events had slowed down (perhaps because they actually held jobs) a while before the OWS became the chic thing for the left and thier sympathizers to patronize.


  44. 44 | February 12, 2013 2:16 pm

    @ Guggi:

    I commented on that fraud on the DoD thread from yesterday.

    Well, well well, isn’t THIS interesting – this is the clown that authored the study – :

    “Glantz has been a leading researcher and activist in the nonsmokers’ rights movement since 1978, when he helped lead an unsuccessful state initiative campaign to enact a nonsmokers’ rights law by popular vote. In 1983, he helped successfully defend the San Francisco Workplace Smoking Ordinance against a tobacco industry supported attempt to repeal it by referendum. The San Francisco victory represented the first electoral defeat of such a tobacco industry sponsored referendum, and is now viewed as a major turning point in the battle for nonsmokers’ rights. He is one of the founders of Americans for Nonsmokers’ Rights.”

    Glantz is well-known for his fraud and lying. Sort of like the Michael Moore of “second-hand smoke.” He’s quite famous for the Helena smoking cessation scam. and has often been exposed for the shameless say-anything, do-anything anti-smoking zealot that he is.

    In other words – he’s Chuckles with a medical degree.

    They claim to have a website that Tobacco and the Koch brothers put up in 2002 but now say has been taken down. They can back up nothing.

    Stanton Glantz is all incensed that Big Tobacco, et al, try to fight additional taxes on smoking in state after state. He has no ethics


  45. Speranza
    45 | February 12, 2013 2:17 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    He probably has copies of every Hitler book possible. I don’t get his Tobacco obsession.

    A guy like Pudge Johnson lives for obsessions. First it was the jihadis, then it was Creationism, Pam Geller, Ron Paul!, Glenn Beck, Jim Hoft of Gateway Pundit, R.S. McCain, Global Warming, and now Big Tobacco.


  46. 46 | February 12, 2013 2:19 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I’m wondering about the tobacco obsession as well. There’s something personal in this.


  47. brookly red
    47 | February 12, 2013 2:20 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    I’m wondering about the tobacco obsession as well. There’s something personal in this.

    the waitress that told him to get lost smokes…


  48. Speranza
    48 | February 12, 2013 2:20 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’m wondering about the tobacco obsession as well. There’s something personal in this.

    I am only speculating but we do not know what type of cancer his mom (R.I.P.) died from -- maybe she was a smoker and died from lung or throat cancer. Who knows? Just a speculation.


  49. Speranza
    49 | February 12, 2013 2:22 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’m wondering about the tobacco obsession as well. There’s something personal in this.

    He is trying to adopt a “populist” pose by taking on “Big Tobacco” just like that overstuffed pigeon Bill O’Reilly with his obsession with “Big Oil”.


  50. eaglesoars
    50 | February 12, 2013 2:22 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Who knows? Just a speculation.

    I seem to remember CJ posted it was liver.


  51. 51 | February 12, 2013 2:24 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I saw a speculative report today that the Norks’ nuke test was really a test for Iran. Double-fail!


  52. 52 | February 12, 2013 2:27 pm

    @ Speranza:

    But his tying everything to Big Tobacco is just ridiculous. He wants approval from the Left and because of Rathergate, they will never accept him.


  53. 53 | February 12, 2013 2:28 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I read the Chinese are mad at the Norks. But I am suspicious. North Korea can’t sneeze without Beijing’s go ahead.


  54. 54 | February 12, 2013 2:30 pm

    @ Speranza:

    If you see my link to a post I did 3 years ago, he was always claiming Big Tobacco as the main culprit.


  55. 55 | February 12, 2013 2:31 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Hey, remember what we were talking about the other night on the phone?

    Los Angeles officially becomes a Dystopian nightmare.


  56. The Osprey
    56 | February 12, 2013 2:32 pm

    Dennis Preager: Support for Dorner is troubling.


  57. Speranza
    57 | February 12, 2013 2:34 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Who knows? Just a speculation.

    I seem to remember CJ posted it was liver.

    Oh God that is so awful! May she be in heaven.


  58. 58 | February 12, 2013 2:35 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Ya think? If this guy were a Tea Partier, you’d hear nothing but condemnation from the Tea Party itself, but he’s a Leftist, so some (a lot) of the Leftists support him. It is troubling, but not surprising. Bill Ayers is a long-time favorite of our Leftist President, and while he never killed anyone himself, he was a co-conspirator with those who did.


  59. Speranza
    59 | February 12, 2013 2:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    If you see my link to a post I did 3 years ago, he was always claiming Big Tobacco as the main culprit.

    I am no fan of tobacco but a guy like Charles Johnson needs something to hate in order to give him the same purpose in life that most normal people get from a wife/husband, children, friendships, etc.


  60. 60 | February 12, 2013 2:38 pm

    BTW -- has this ridiculous study been picked up by the media? Have any of the conservative talk show hosts spoken about it? Because Rush and Levin haven’t. I see nothing on Twitter or on Weasel Zippers unless I missed it.

    You know why that might be, Clueless McDumdum? Because unlike you, people do their research. And this clown whose feet you are kissing is a partisan hack whose studies and conclusions cannot even be remotely trusted. Next thing, you’ll be publishing the insane and moronic conclusions of Dylan Avery.

    You’re an idiot Clueless. In irresponsible smearing little gnat on the butt pimple of blogosphere. If you hadn’t smeared so many good people, I’d almost feel sorry for your pathetic attempts to win back the reknown you once enjoyed.

    In the meantime, enjoy your journey to oblivion.


  61. Speranza
    61 | February 12, 2013 2:38 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I read the Chinese are mad at the Norks. But I am suspicious. North Korea can’t sneeze without Beijing’s go ahead.

    Not really, North Korea is a fantical, Orwellian Society that takes orders from nobody. This is not 1950.


  62. Speranza
    62 | February 12, 2013 2:39 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    You know why that might be, Clueless McDumdum? Because unlike you, people do their research.

    “Fact check the ass off of it” used to be our motto at LGF. Now it is icejimmah’s mad ravings combed from various British and American Stalinist news sources.


  63. Speranza
    63 | February 12, 2013 2:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I saw a speculative report today that the Norks’ nuke test was really a test for Iran. Double-fail!

    The good news never stops. /


  64. brookly red
    64 | February 12, 2013 2:44 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I read the Chinese are mad at the Norks. But I am suspicious. North Korea can’t sneeze without Beijing’s go ahead.

    Not really, North Korea is a fantical, Orwellian Society that takes orders from nobody. This is not 1950.

    still I don’t think they want to piss China off…


  65. 65 | February 12, 2013 2:44 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Although the good news (if it can be called such) is that the “stealth fighter” unveiled by Iran complete with “in flight” photos looks to be an unflyable hoax.

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/12/the-ayatollahs-new-stealth-fighter-takes-flight-thanks-to-irans-photoshop-brigades/#disqus_thread


  66. lobo91
    66 | February 12, 2013 2:44 pm

    Back in the day, CJ would have been all over a “fauxtograph” like this:

    The Ayatollah’s New “Stealth Fighter” Takes Flight Thanks To Iran’s Photoshop Brigades…


  67. lobo91
    67 | February 12, 2013 2:46 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Although the good news (if it can be called such) is that the “stealth fighter” unveiled by Iran complete with “in flight” photos looks to be an unflyable hoax.

    That was pretty obvious from the first pictures they showed. The “pilot” didn’t even fit in the cockpit.


  68. Speranza
    68 | February 12, 2013 2:49 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Although the good news (if it can be called such) is that the “stealth fighter” unveiled by Iran complete with “in flight” photos looks to be an unflyable hoax.
    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/12/the-ayatollahs-new-stealth-fighter-takes-flight-thanks-to-irans-photoshop-brigades/#disqus_thread

    Check the headlines here on the side bar. Over the weekend I posted that it was a fake.


  69. 69 | February 12, 2013 2:49 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Hey -- I was driving by Camp Parks the other day and thought of you! (Okay, tell Leia I thought of her, too!)


  70. Speranza
    70 | February 12, 2013 2:49 pm

    That Iranian “stealth fighter” looked like an amusement park ride for 7 year olds.


  71. 71 | February 12, 2013 2:50 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Should have known, Speranza. Should have known.


  72. Speranza
    72 | February 12, 2013 2:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ Iron Fist:
    I read the Chinese are mad at the Norks. But I am suspicious. North Korea can’t sneeze without Beijing’s go ahead.
    Not really, North Korea is a fantical, Orwellian Society that takes orders from nobody. This is not 1950.

    still I don’t think they want to piss China off…

    I don’t think they even understand the whole notion about “pissing people off”. They really have a cognitive problem, sort of like people I knew who were diagnosed with Asperbergers.


  73. Speranza
    73 | February 12, 2013 2:51 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Should have known, Speranza. Should have known.

    I mean is it a jet fighter built for midgets?


  74. Da_Beerfreak
    74 | February 12, 2013 2:53 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Heh California… He went on to paint a nefarious plot involving Ron Paul, the Catholic Church, the Tea Party, Nazis, Glenn Beck, Pam Geller, Serbs, Evangelical Christians, Kahanists, Newt Gingrich, Creationists, Fox News, Robert Spencer and the State of Tennessee as behind some attempt to establish a 4th Reich.

    Try that in NYC and you get a rubber room and Thorazine 3x a day…

    And now you know why California is California.
    This sad state of affairs didn’t happen overnight; it took decades of neglect and abuse to get to where it is today. :oops:


  75. lobo91
    75 | February 12, 2013 2:53 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Hey — I was driving by Camp Parks the other day and thought of you! (Okay, tell Leia I thought of her, too!)

    She’s outside at the moment, licking the snow on the deck.

    Don’t ask…


  76. brookly red
    76 | February 12, 2013 2:53 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    Rodan wrote:
    @ Iron Fist:
    I read the Chinese are mad at the Norks. But I am suspicious. North Korea can’t sneeze without Beijing’s go ahead.
    Not really, North Korea is a fantical, Orwellian Society that takes orders from nobody. This is not 1950.

    still I don’t think they want to piss China off…

    I don’t think they even understand the whole notion about “pissing people off”. They really have a cognitive problem, sort of like people I knew who were diagnosed with Asperbergers.

    well they understand the concept of a giant stepping on a cockroach I am sure.


  77. 77 | February 12, 2013 2:53 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Yup, We will have a show this Sunday. This will be a topic, so call in.


  78. brookly red
    78 | February 12, 2013 2:55 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Should have known, Speranza. Should have known.

    I mean is it a jet fighter built for midgets?

    /maybe they trained all those kids with the plastic keys to heaven who lost their legs (to landmines) how to fly?


  79. Da_Beerfreak
    79 | February 12, 2013 2:56 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    Who knows? Just a speculation.

    I seem to remember CJ posted it was liver.

    I remember that too. Just before the Madness struck….


  80. 80 | February 12, 2013 2:58 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The Norks still can’t piss off their only ally.


  81. 81 | February 12, 2013 2:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    Yup, We will have a show this Sunday. This will be a topic, so call in.

    Won’t have a telephone by Saturday… :shock: :sad:


  82. brookly red
    82 | February 12, 2013 3:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    The Norks still can’t piss off their only ally.

    of course China could be totally on board and just pretending to be pissed, but I don’t see why they would do that… they seem genuinely pissed.


  83. 83 | February 12, 2013 3:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I don’t think they even understand the whole notion about “pissing people off”. They really have a cognitive problem, sort of like people I knew who were diagnosed with Asperbergers.

    If nations rode the school bus, they’d definitely be on the short one.


  84. 84 | February 12, 2013 3:04 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    The Norks still can’t piss off their only ally.

    of course China could be totally on board and just pretending to be pissed, but I don’t see why they would do that… they seem genuinely pissed.

    The Chinese genuinely have problems with North Korea. Kind of like having a rabid pit-bull on a leash. You don’t dare let him loose, but ya can’t keep him under control either.


  85. 85 | February 12, 2013 3:04 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    That’s what lead to his m meltdown


  86. 86 | February 12, 2013 3:05 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Damn, that sucks.


  87. 87 | February 12, 2013 3:06 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    They are more of a buffer state for them, like Burma is.


  88. 88 | February 12, 2013 3:08 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    Should have known, Speranza. Should have known.

    I mean is it a jet fighter built for midgets?

    Could be -- it’s not like Ahmadinnerjacket is ever going to be mistaken for a power forward for the Golden State Warriors.


  89. 89 | February 12, 2013 3:08 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    The Chinese genuinely have problems with North Korea. Kind of like having a rabid pit-bull on a leash. You don’t dare let him loose, but ya can’t keep him under control either.

    They should know, they trained the dog.


  90. brookly red
    90 | February 12, 2013 3:08 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    The Norks still can’t piss off their only ally.

    of course China could be totally on board and just pretending to be pissed, but I don’t see why they would do that… they seem genuinely pissed.

    The Chinese genuinely have problems with North Korea. Kind of like having a rabid pit-bull on a leash. You don’t dare let him loose, but ya can’t keep him under control either.

    /they could trade NK for Tiwain


  91. brookly red
    91 | February 12, 2013 3:15 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    The Chinese genuinely have problems with North Korea. Kind of like having a rabid pit-bull on a leash. You don’t dare let him loose, but ya can’t keep him under control either.

    They should know, they trained the dog.

    the Chinese want stability at this point, having a wildcard in the deck like a NK/Iranian alliance with nukes too boot is not something they are likely to allow.


  92. Calo
    92 | February 12, 2013 3:16 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    Hum… actually, I still can’t figure out why the Pope stepped down.
    I’m guessing Alzheimer’s, but really, I’m not sure.

    This morning the Vatican issued a press release saying that the Pope had a pacemaker implanted some months ago.

    This is Dick Cheney territory. Not Alzheimers

    I’m in Dick Cheney territory leading a perfectly normal and productive life with my pacemaker/defibrillator.

    So, I am going to have to disagree with you eagles.

    Back to work, now.


  93. lobo91
    93 | February 12, 2013 3:16 pm

    If You Took Every American On Food Stamps And Gave Them Their Own Nation They Would Be The 27th Largest Country…

    And Obama would be giving them free F-16s and tanks…


  94. coldwarrior
    94 | February 12, 2013 3:17 pm

    chuckie, you give me a headache.


  95. 95 | February 12, 2013 3:18 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Big Tobacco is behind it all!


  96. lobo91
    96 | February 12, 2013 3:18 pm

    @ Calo:

    I’m in Dick Cheney territory leading a perfectly normal and productive life with my pacemaker/defibrillator.

    So, I am going to have to disagree with you eagles.

    But you’re not 85 years old.


  97. Speranza
    97 | February 12, 2013 3:18 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    the Chinese want stability at this point, having a wildcard in the deck like a NK/Iranian alliance with nukes too boot is not something they are likely to allow.

    I believe (as do others) that only Chinese fear of a reunified and free Korea is what is preventing North Korea from imploding.


  98. Speranza
    98 | February 12, 2013 3:19 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Big Tobacco is behind it all!

    Vlaams Belaang!!


  99. Speranza
    99 | February 12, 2013 3:20 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    chuckie, you give me a headache.

    He gives me the creeps. I look at him and say to myself “I would not want children around him”.


  100. coldwarrior
    100 | February 12, 2013 3:21 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    Big Tobacco is behind it all!

    Vlaams Belaang!!

    and dont you ever forget it!

    :lol:


  101. 101 | February 12, 2013 3:24 pm

    @ brookly red:

    China couldn’t have been thrilled when the Pakis set off their underground test, either, and AQ Khan and the Norks were fast friends. I doubt that they are thrilled by the Norks latests test, but I bet there are a lot of pissed-off Party apparatchiks sitting around blinking at one another asking “What do we do now?”


  102. brookly red
    102 | February 12, 2013 3:24 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    the Chinese want stability at this point, having a wildcard in the deck like a NK/Iranian alliance with nukes too boot is not something they are likely to allow.

    I believe (as do others) that only Chinese fear of a reunified and free Korea is what is preventing North Korea from imploding.

    yes true but times change and there can be other situations that they fear more…


  103. 103 | February 12, 2013 3:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ doriangrey:
    They are more of a buffer state for them, like Burma is.

    Back during the 50s and 60′s the Chinese had grand aspirations of spreading Mao’s version of Marxism throughout Asia. Basically they just assumed that they would be more or less welcomed as liberators all throughout Asia. When that didn’t happen, they tried spreading Mao’s Marxism by force and, well, were more than just a little butt hurt at the ferocity and breadth of resistance they met.

    They still haven’t gotten over that. They don’t cling to North Korea so much as a buffer zone, as they do the single solitary example of another Asian country that even remotely accepted Mao’s Marxist vision.

    Especially after what happened in Vietnam. In 1992, after suffering as a miserable failed Marxist state Vietnam rewrote it’s constitution. It still makes the public statement of adherence to Socialism/Communism/Marxism, but there is little reality to that statement. A careful examination of the current political entity known as Vietnam shows a country that on paper claims to be a Marxist State, but in reality has rearranged itself to resemble the United States of America’s political system and economic system.


  104. coldwarrior
    104 | February 12, 2013 3:30 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    the chinese are pissed because this is bad for business.


  105. lobo91
    105 | February 12, 2013 3:31 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    A careful examination of the current political entity known as Vietnam shows a country that on paper claims to be a Marxist State, but in reality has rearranged itself to resemble the United States of America’s political system and economic system.

    At the same time that we’re moving toward Marxism.

    Ironic, isn’t it?


  106. 106 | February 12, 2013 3:35 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Yes, but if they can detach Seoul from the US, they would not care if Korea was united under Seoul, provided it was Pro-China. China and South Korea have extensive economic ties.


  107. 107 | February 12, 2013 3:37 pm

    @ doriangrey:

    Burma which is Rightwing Junta is a Chinese vassal. The Chinese are using the economic and cultural means to get nations in their sphere. If South Korea flipped to Beijing’s side, they would ditch the Norks.

    But then, there would be no Juche! :lol:


  108. 108 | February 12, 2013 3:38 pm

    @ Speranza:

    There has been no new Charles pictures in over 3 years. That is a blessing for humanity!


  109. 109 | February 12, 2013 3:39 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    i am shocked the Norks do not claim that Kim Jung Il and Kim Il Sung did not appear in the sky smiling at the Iron Fist of Juche. or that Bears were singing praises of the test. I am waiting for that.


  110. Speranza
    110 | February 12, 2013 3:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    There has been no new Charles pictures in over 3 years. That is a blessing for humanity!

    He must be obese.


  111. 111 | February 12, 2013 3:54 pm

    @ Speranza:

    he probably can’t even leave his house. I would hate to go over for a visit.


  112. 112 | February 12, 2013 3:57 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I think they are more concerned about the massive wave of Nork refugees that would swarm across the Chinese border if L’il Kim’s nightmare were to come to an end. China’s a big place, but I don’t know how they’d handle a few million Nork refugees.


  113. Guggi
    113 | February 12, 2013 3:57 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    There has been no new Charles pictures in over 3 years. That is a blessing for humanity!

    He has become irrelevant. No more interviews, no more pictures.


  114. The Osprey
    114 | February 12, 2013 3:58 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Hey, remember what we were talking about the other night on the phone?
    Los Angeles officially becomes a Dystopian nightmare.


  115. 115 | February 12, 2013 4:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:

    i am shocked the Norks do not claim that Kim Jung Il and Kim Il Sung did not appear in the sky smiling at the Iron Fist of Juche. or that Bears were singing praises of the test. I am waiting for that.

    I’m waiting for Obamaphiles to look for that with their own domestic demigod.


  116. Da_Beerfreak
    116 | February 12, 2013 4:00 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    I think they are more concerned about the massive wave of Nork refugees that would swarm across the Chinese border if L’il Kim’s nightmare were to come to an end. China’s a big place, but I don’t know how they’d handle a few million Nork refugees.

    SKS’s and lots of landmines would be my first bet… :cool:


  117. The Osprey
    117 | February 12, 2013 4:00 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    There has been no new Charles pictures in over 3 years. That is a blessing for humanity!

    He must be obese.

    Mr. Cheetosote.


  118. 118 | February 12, 2013 4:20 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    He has already been declared a God by Jamie Fox, a Lightworker by the media and our Daddy by Chris Rock.


  119. 119 | February 12, 2013 4:21 pm

    @ Guggi:

    Check out last Friday’s Dan Rather thread at LGF. The Leftists went after him over Rathergate. They have not forgiven him.


  120. coldwarrior
    120 | February 12, 2013 4:25 pm

    KINGSTON, Jamaica (AP) — Hadi Mezawi has never set foot on the Caribbean island of Dominica, has never seen its rainforests or black-sand beaches. But he’s one of its newest citizens.

    Without leaving his home in the United Arab Emirates, the Palestinian man recently received a brand new Dominican passport after sending a roughly $100,000 contribution to the tropical nation half a world away.

    “At the start I was a little worried that it might be a fraud, but the process turned out to be quite smooth and simple. Now, I am a Dominican,” said Mezawi, who like many Palestinians had not been recognized as a citizen of any country. That passport will help with travel for his job with a Brazilian food processing company, he said by telephone from Dubai.

    Turmoil in the Middle East and North Africa has led to a surge of interest in programs that let investors buy citizenship or residence in countries around the world in return for a healthy contribution or investment. Most are seeking a second passport for hassle-free travel or a ready escape hatch in case things get worse at home.

    Nowhere is it easier or faster than in the minuscule Eastern Caribbean nations of Dominica and St. Kitts & Nevis.

    It’s such a booming business that a Dubai-based company is building a 4-square-mile (10-square-kilometer) community in St. Kitts where investors can buy property and citizenship at the same time. In its first phase, some 375 shareholders will get citizenship by investing $400,000 each in the project, which is expected to include a 200-room hotel and a mega-yacht marina. Others will get passports for buying one of 50 condominium units.

    “The more they fight over there, the more political problems there are, the more applications we get here,” said Victor Doche, managing director of another company that offers four condominium projects where approved buyers are granted citizenship in St. Kitts, which is less than twice the size of Washington D.C.

    It’s impossible to say how many people have used the cash for citizenship programs. Officials in both countries declined to respond when asked by The Associated Press.


  121. 121 | February 12, 2013 4:29 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yup, I agree.


  122. 122 | February 12, 2013 4:30 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Great now the Muzz will start ruining the Caribbean.


  123. Speranza
    123 | February 12, 2013 4:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:
    Check out last Friday’s Dan Rather thread at LGF. The Leftists went after him over Rathergate. They have not forgiven him.

    Yes that is his perpetual mark of Cain.


  124. 124 | February 12, 2013 4:33 pm

    Hmm, they may have Dorner pinned down…


  125. 125 | February 12, 2013 4:34 pm

    This confirms what I am hearing from Lebanese Christian peeps.

    Israel appears to be readying for conflict with Lebanon

    Senior Israeli officials have warned of an impending conflict in closed-door meetings in Washington, D.C., sources said.

    The “world needs to be prepared for the next war with Lebanon,” a senior military adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently said during a private meeting with representatives of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), a D.C. think-tank.

    “All of Lebanon is now South Lebanon,” the official reportedly said, referring to Israel’s ongoing attempts to prevent the Lebanese terror group Hezbollah from replenishing its weapons cache.

    [....]

    “Israel told U.N. peacekeeping forces in South Lebanon to ‘take precautions’ amid growing fears of a regional conflict,” the Lebanese news site NOW reported over the weekend.


  126. 126 | February 12, 2013 4:34 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    Damn, I loved the Caribbean! There goes the neighborhood….


  127. citizen_q
    127 | February 12, 2013 4:34 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Isn’t it easier and cheaper to just come here on a student visa and forget to leave?

    / sort of


  128. 128 | February 12, 2013 4:35 pm

    @ Speranza:

    They will never accept him and he knows it. That is why he is back to railing about Nazis, Creationists and Big Tobacco.


  129. 129 | February 12, 2013 4:36 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Yeah, these people ruin everything.


  130. Speranza
    130 | February 12, 2013 4:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    They will never accept him and he knows it. That is why he is back to railing about Nazis, Creationists and Big Tobacco.

    His “comfort zone” heh.


  131. Speranza
    131 | February 12, 2013 4:37 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Hmm, they may have Dorner pinned down…

    The fat fuck is like 275 lbs. Get more muscle on him.


  132. 133 | February 12, 2013 4:39 pm

    @ Speranza:

    See my 132.


  133. waldensianspirit
    134 | February 12, 2013 4:44 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I think he is going to lose. Hopefully no police or civilians die till he’s down


  134. waldensianspirit
    135 | February 12, 2013 4:44 pm

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/

    Seems to be live video from the air


  135. 136 | February 12, 2013 4:45 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Agreed.


  136. waldensianspirit
    137 | February 12, 2013 4:47 pm

    So his truck at Big Bear wasn’t a ruse


  137. 138 | February 12, 2013 4:47 pm

    The people who have been on the ‘net cheering Dorner on should be exposed as soon as the sombitch reaches room temperature.


  138. 139 | February 12, 2013 4:48 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    So his truck at Big Bear wasn’t a ruse

    Apparently. I thought it was a trick, as well.


  139. waldensianspirit
    140 | February 12, 2013 4:50 pm

    @ MacDuff:
    Yea I thought if he was going to take on the LAPD he’d do some level of planning


  140. heysoos
    141 | February 12, 2013 4:51 pm

    obviously, the guy had no plan….hanging around was not smart, not enough options for movement and concealment


  141. waldensianspirit
    142 | February 12, 2013 4:55 pm

    Chopper is keeping a good distance and height


  142. waldensianspirit
    143 | February 12, 2013 4:55 pm

    Lot of daylight left


  143. heysoos
    144 | February 12, 2013 4:58 pm

    he’s done for…out of gas
    I expected much more


  144. waldensianspirit
    145 | February 12, 2013 4:58 pm

    What’s the smoke?


  145. RIX
    146 | February 12, 2013 5:00 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    The people who have been on the ‘net cheering Dorner on should be exposed as soon as the sombitch reaches room temperature.

    They’re going to miss their Django.
    Whatever the issues are with the LAPD, this guy
    is a cold blooded murderer


  146. brookly red
    147 | February 12, 2013 5:03 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I think he is going to lose. Hopefully no police or civilians die till he’s down

    CBS says 2 deputies shot…


  147. heysoos
    148 | February 12, 2013 5:08 pm

    he’s trapped inside another cabin..guy’s crazy about cabins


  148. waldensianspirit
    149 | February 12, 2013 5:10 pm

    Looks like a beautiful spot on earth and this narcissist ruins it and lives.


  149. waldensianspirit
    150 | February 12, 2013 5:12 pm

    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering


  150. The Osprey
    151 | February 12, 2013 5:16 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering

    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.


  151. brookly red
    152 | February 12, 2013 5:17 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering

    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.

    and sitting on your helmet won’t help…


  152. The Osprey
    153 | February 12, 2013 5:19 pm

    @ brookly red:

    :lol:


  153. heysoos
    154 | February 12, 2013 5:21 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering

    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.

    then he humped it over the ridge…20mi


  154. brookly red
    155 | February 12, 2013 5:21 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    not trying to be funny…


  155. brookly red
    156 | February 12, 2013 5:24 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering

    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.

    then he humped it over the ridge…20mi

    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house


  156. huckfunn
    157 | February 12, 2013 5:26 pm

    This is pretty much the scenario that I spoke of several days ago. I thought that he would invade the remote home of a elderly retired couple, take them hostage or kill them and then bide his time. No one’s called to interview me yet. :roll:


  157. heysoos
    158 | February 12, 2013 5:26 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering
    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.
    then he humped it over the ridge…20mi

    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house

    doesn’t matter much now…he’s surrounded, and the CA Fish and Game guy said he thought he hit him at the other place…maybe he’s bleeding out


  158. The Osprey
    159 | February 12, 2013 5:27 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ brookly red:

    not trying to be funny…

    I thought you were making an “Apocalypse Now” reference…


  159. brookly red
    160 | February 12, 2013 5:27 pm

    if the CA Air Guard has a gunship this would be a good time to take the it for a spin… juss saying.


  160. 161 | February 12, 2013 5:27 pm

    @ RIX:

    It appalls me no end listening the walking turds of the media fall all over themselves trying to excuse these attacks and bringing up the inherent racism in the LAPD. First of all, the last time I checked, NO ONE had done any in-depth research on the circumstances of this monster’s dismissal, yet they are all ready set go to find a way somehow mitigate what he’s done. And in the meantime, the LAPD announces, oh yes, we’ll re-investigate. By all means, let’s reward murderous behavior.


  161. brookly red
    162 | February 12, 2013 5:28 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ brookly red:

    not trying to be funny…

    I thought you were making an “Apocalypse Now” reference…

    I was… and it’s not funny.


  162. heysoos
    163 | February 12, 2013 5:28 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    This is pretty much the scenario that I spoke of several days ago. I thought that he would invade the remote home of a elderly retired couple, take them hostage or kill them and then bide his time. No one’s called to interview me yet.

    caring for hostages is difficult, should have killed them…how did some old lady untie herself?…what kind of security is that?


  163. brookly red
    164 | February 12, 2013 5:29 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering
    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.
    then he humped it over the ridge…20mi

    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house

    doesn’t matter much now…he’s surrounded, and the CA Fish and Game guy said he thought he hit him at the other place…maybe he’s bleeding out

    It would be Ironic… America’s Most Wanted tagged by game warden.


  164. heysoos
    165 | February 12, 2013 5:29 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    if the CA Air Guard has a gunship this would be a good time to take the it for a spin… juss saying.

    when it’s dark, they’ll blow a hole in the wall and gas him…my guess


  165. huckfunn
    166 | February 12, 2013 5:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house

    There was a report on Fox that he did get a weapon from the house that he broke into.


  166. brookly red
    167 | February 12, 2013 5:31 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    This is pretty much the scenario that I spoke of several days ago. I thought that he would invade the remote home of a elderly retired couple, take them hostage or kill them and then bide his time. No one’s called to interview me yet.

    well there was that guy from the IRS…


  167. heysoos
    168 | February 12, 2013 5:31 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering
    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.
    then he humped it over the ridge…20mi
    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house
    doesn’t matter much now…he’s surrounded, and the CA Fish and Game guy said he thought he hit him at the other place…maybe he’s bleeding out

    It would be Ironic… America’s Most Wanted tagged by game warden.

    I think he was shot too


  168. brookly red
    169 | February 12, 2013 5:32 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house

    There was a report on Fox that he did get a weapon from the house that he broke into.

    oh freaking great… hope it was not a bushmaster, the libs will go uhhh, ballistic?


  169. brookly red
    170 | February 12, 2013 5:34 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    if the CA Air Guard has a gunship this would be a good time to take the it for a spin… juss saying.

    when it’s dark, they’ll blow a hole in the wall and gas him…my guess

    some how O has to insert himself into this… maybe they will drone him. not being snarky they just might.


  170. huckfunn
    171 | February 12, 2013 5:35 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    some how O has to insert himself into this…

    If BO had a son…


  171. 172 | February 12, 2013 5:36 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    maybe they will drone him. not being snarky they just might.

    I would. I’d incinerate the cabin; he’d be dead 30 minutes ago.


  172. brookly red
    173 | February 12, 2013 5:36 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Police chopper sure keeps moving; no hovering
    He claims to have a .50bmg caliber rifle. One of those could do a job on a rotorhead if he got a lucky shot.
    then he humped it over the ridge…20mi
    hope the cabin owner didn’t have weapons in the house
    doesn’t matter much now…he’s surrounded, and the CA Fish and Game guy said he thought he hit him at the other place…maybe he’s bleeding out

    It would be Ironic… America’s Most Wanted tagged by game warden.

    I think he was shot too

    the fish and game guys carry what? .40s ? yes, he could bleed out.


  173. The Osprey
    174 | February 12, 2013 5:37 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ brookly red:

    not trying to be funny…

    You can’t hear people’s tone of voice in text on the internet.

    Use an un-sarc tag next time.


  174. 175 | February 12, 2013 5:37 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Of course he will -- we’ll get a lecture on the racism of the LAPD and how it can drive this poor man to kill people in an attempt to get social justice.

    The Medal of Honor winner from yesterday has DECLINED Obama’s invite to attend the Distaste of the Union Address tonight. Judging from the expression on his face when getting the medal from Obama, he couldn’t get away from that jerk FAST enough.


  175. brookly red
    176 | February 12, 2013 5:39 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    some how O has to insert himself into this…

    If BO had a son…

    wonder if this will detract from his speech…


  176. waldensianspirit
    177 | February 12, 2013 5:39 pm

    Latest cabin former owner has floor plans which the police are now using.

    Ah the smoke was for when they carryied the wounded deputies to a rescue copter


  177. waldensianspirit
    178 | February 12, 2013 5:40 pm

    Wow! The white truck is off the road and looks jammed in a gully


  178. brookly red
    179 | February 12, 2013 5:40 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    @ brookly red:

    not trying to be funny…

    You can’t hear people’s tone of voice in text on the internet.

    Use an un-sarc tag next time.

    No contest…I can see where someone might just assume I was being a jerk :) what’s an un-sacr tag ???


  179. 180 | February 12, 2013 5:41 pm

    @ brookly red:

    It’s been ten days and he has yet to mention the murder of Chris Kyle.


  180. huckfunn
    181 | February 12, 2013 5:41 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    wonder if this will detract from his speech…

    Rush calls it “the Misstatement of the Union”. But, to your point, when POTUS is face-to-face with TOTUS, nothing can distract him.


  181. brookly red
    182 | February 12, 2013 5:42 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Of course he will — we’ll get a lecture on the racism of the LAPD and how it can drive this poor man to kill people in an attempt to get social justice.

    The Medal of Honor winner from yesterday has DECLINED Obama’s invite to attend the Distaste of the Union Address tonight. Judging from the expression on his face when getting the medal from Obama, he couldn’t get away from that jerk FAST enough.

    well after this? http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-hood-hero-obama-betrayed-victims/story?id=18465024


  182. RIX
    183 | February 12, 2013 5:42 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    It’s actually sick,this guy has become a folk hero.
    Has the sensitive left noticed that he has committed several murders,or
    does that add to this cretins mystique?


  183. buzzsawmonkey
    184 | February 12, 2013 5:43 pm

    Dorner used to be LAPD, but his pictures suggest LARD…


  184. 185 | February 12, 2013 5:44 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I’m sure he’s practicing his declamation and hand gestures as we speak. I also wouldn’t be surprised if, when he introduces the Newtown “survivor”, he yet again wipes a nonexistent tear from his eye. I imagine he’ll ask for a moment of silence.

    Uncle Ted Nugent is going to be there -- I tweeted him asking to make a citizen’s arrest on the illegal alien being brought by that dumbass Illinois Congress Critter.


  185. buzzsawmonkey
    186 | February 12, 2013 5:44 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    It’s been ten days and he has yet to mention the murder of Chris Kyle.

    I’m betting that Obama will bring Kyle up as a “victim of gun violence,” and go on about how “even this well-trained veteran” was helpless “even in a sport-shooting venue,” against the evil of firearm ownership.


  186. buzzsawmonkey
    187 | February 12, 2013 5:45 pm

    As far as the Dorner endgame is concerned, I have only this to say:

    Don’t spoil the hide! Don’t spoil the hide!


  187. huckfunn
    188 | February 12, 2013 5:45 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Dorner used to be LAPD, but his pictures suggest LARD…

    Pumpernickel version of the Pillsbury Doughboy.


  188. buzzsawmonkey
    189 | February 12, 2013 5:46 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    Pumpernickel version of the Pillsbury Doughboy.

    Damn, that’s funny.


  189. 190 | February 12, 2013 5:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    It’s actually sick,this guy has become a folk hero.
    Has the sensitive left noticed that he has committed several murders,or
    does that add to this cretins mystique?

    I was thinking the same thing; whatever twisted “point” he was trying to make is actually being made. The wall-to-wall coverage is what these people are craving.


  190. 191 | February 12, 2013 5:47 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    It’s actually sick,this guy has become a folk hero.
    Has the sensitive left noticed that he has committed several murders,or
    does that add to this cretins mystique?

    If Dorner were a Republican and had published a manifesto that expressed solidarity with the TEA Party and the NRA, we would be hearing that the LAPD was no doubt correct in his firing and this is only proves how evil and gun happy and violent the NRA and TEA Party really are.

    Instead, the MSM is acting like they’re suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.


  191. huckfunn
    192 | February 12, 2013 5:49 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Uncle Ted Nugent is going to be there — I tweeted him asking to make a citizen’s arrest on the illegal alien being brought by that dumbass Illinois Congress Critter.

    Uncle Ted will have an opinion and won’t be shy about sharing it. Can’t wait.


  192. brookly red
    193 | February 12, 2013 5:49 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    I’m sure he’s practicing his declamation and hand gestures as we speak. I also wouldn’t be surprised if, when he introduces the Newtown “survivor”, he yet again wipes a nonexistent tear from his eye. I imagine he’ll ask for a moment of silence.

    Uncle Ted Nugent is going to be there — I tweeted him asking to make a citizen’s arrest on the illegal alien being brought by that dumbass Illinois Congress Critter.

    oh… I thought you meant the other illegal alien.


  193. buzzsawmonkey
    194 | February 12, 2013 5:51 pm

    I was hoping that they’d send Piers Morgan in to interview Dorner. Dorner likes Piers, and Piers would make a great judas goat.

    And if Piers should be tragically caught in the crossfire when Dorner was taken down, I’m sure we would mourn with the rest of the nation.


  194. brookly red
    195 | February 12, 2013 5:51 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    If Dorner were a Republican and had published a manifesto that expressed solidarity with the TEA Party and the NRA

    don’t worry McGraw-Hill putting that in the textbooks as we speak


  195. brookly red
    196 | February 12, 2013 5:56 pm

    radio is talking about an accomplice…


  196. waldensianspirit
    197 | February 12, 2013 6:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Piers’ deportation could then proceed apace


  197. 198 | February 12, 2013 6:02 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I was hoping that they’d send Piers Morgan in to interview Dorner. Dorner likes Piers, and Piers would make a great judas goat.

    Piers doesn’t have the balls.


  198. 199 | February 12, 2013 6:03 pm

    Mental issues? As long as they don’t let him have guns we should be safe.


  199. waldensianspirit
    200 | February 12, 2013 6:03 pm

    LAPD press conference


  200. RIX
    201 | February 12, 2013 6:05 pm

    I was thinking the same thing; whatever twisted “point” he was trying to make is actually being made. The wall-to-wall coverage is what these people are craving.

    reply | quote@ MacDuff:

    It’s hard to care about his grievances with all that he has done.


  201. waldensianspirit
    202 | February 12, 2013 6:06 pm

    nobody asked about the wounded deputies yet


  202. 203 | February 12, 2013 6:06 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I was almost expecting the clams to claim that the manifesto was a fake and that he put it out there to deflect from the truth.


  203. buzzsawmonkey
    204 | February 12, 2013 6:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    It’s hard to care about his grievances with all that he has done.

    It’s not hard at all.

    I don’t. Problem solved.


  204. RIX
    205 | February 12, 2013 6:08 pm

    If Dorner were a Republican and had published a manifesto that expressed solidarity with the TEA Party and the NRA, we would be hearing that the LAPD was no doubt correct in his firing and this is only proves how evil and gun happy and violent the NRA and TEA Party really are.

    Instead, the MSM is acting like they’re suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.@ Carolina Girl:

    The MSM has no credibility left. Their only purpose seems to be to slobber
    over BHO.


  205. RIX
    206 | February 12, 2013 6:10 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    It’s hard to care about his grievances with all that he has done.

    It’s not hard at all.

    I don’t. Problem solved.

    I can go with that.


  206. brookly red
    207 | February 12, 2013 6:12 pm

    RIX wrote:

    If Dorner were a Republican and had published a manifesto that expressed solidarity with the TEA Party and the NRA, we would be hearing that the LAPD was no doubt correct in his firing and this is only proves how evil and gun happy and violent the NRA and TEA Party really are.

    Instead, the MSM is acting like they’re suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.@ Carolina Girl:

    The MSM has no credibility left. Their only purpose seems to be to slobber
    over BHO.

    what are you Ripp Van Winkel :)


  207. Tanker
    208 | February 12, 2013 6:13 pm

    They are talking about getting this guy alive, but we all know he killed a cop and he will never come out alive even if he wanted too. I’m good with that for my part. Save the damn trail money!


  208. waldensianspirit
    209 | February 12, 2013 6:15 pm

    @ Tanker:
    Yea, they say swat will go in. But then they did say he was in Mexico; saw a friend of his there


  209. RIX
    210 | February 12, 2013 6:15 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Just got my wake up. :)


  210. heysoos
    211 | February 12, 2013 6:16 pm

    the guy should never have gone into those mountains…that was his first and last mistake…he should be hunkered down in some urban area, where he can steal money and cars etc…it’s almost like he wants to get caught…why did he try to steal a boat in SD?….how is he doing all this with no money?…why didn’t he just kidnap the owner and steal the boat?…do all this crap with no alternate ID’s or boatload of cash?


  211. waldensianspirit
    212 | February 12, 2013 6:16 pm

    There goes a swat truck


  212. brookly red
    213 | February 12, 2013 6:17 pm

    wtf? people driving up with signs saying “don’t kill Doner” CA is one sick place.


  213. waldensianspirit
    214 | February 12, 2013 6:17 pm

    Dorner should make a good heat spot. Send in some cheetos via robot to keep his body heat up


  214. RIX
    215 | February 12, 2013 6:18 pm

    I wonder if Obama will say, “If I had a brother, he would look like Chris”
    Maybe the can allege that Dorner did nothing, he was just wearing
    a hoodie.


  215. brookly red
    216 | February 12, 2013 6:19 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    They are talking about getting this guy alive, but we all know he killed a cop and he will never come out alive even if he wanted too. I’m good with that for my part. Save the damn trail money!

    they should drone him… 2 hellfier’s from 20,000 feet. sift the ashes for teeth.


  216. buzzsawmonkey
    217 | February 12, 2013 6:21 pm

    “You know, as a black man, Barack might be shot in a mountain cabin after murdering a police officer.”

    —Michelle Obama (may not be direct quote)


  217. waldensianspirit
    218 | February 12, 2013 6:22 pm

    @ brookly red:
    They could be like Obama’s son’s teeth if he had a son


  218. heysoos
    219 | February 12, 2013 6:22 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    They are talking about getting this guy alive, but we all know he killed a cop and he will never come out alive even if he wanted too. I’m good with that for my part. Save the damn trail money!

    they should drone him… 2 hellfier’s from 20,000 feet. sift the ashes for teeth.

    too complicated…use NVG’s with heat optics, wait til the middle of the night, find his heat sig and just blow him away right thru the walls


  219. 220 | February 12, 2013 6:23 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    They are talking about getting this guy alive, but we all know he killed a cop and he will never come out alive even if he wanted too. I’m good with that for my part. Save the damn trail money!

    Barring the existence of hostages, there’s no reason to risk the lives of any more cops- “dead or alive” becomes “DEAD”. I’m comfortable with that.


  220. brookly red
    221 | February 12, 2013 6:23 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I wonder if Obama will say, “If I had a brother, he would look like Chris”
    Maybe the can allege that Dorner did nothing, he was just wearing
    a hoodie.

    people here where mentioning mems the other day… this guy just blew up a few of them.


  221. RIX
    222 | February 12, 2013 6:28 pm

    Token @Ivan_splash

    I hope Dorner shoots these niggas down and keeps on going, if you gonna go on a kill streak better put numbers up
    9:58 PM -- 12 Feb 13
    3 RETWEETS 2 FAVORITES ReplyRetweetFavorite

    This is the kind of crap being put out by the self described
    “Team Dorner.”


  222. RIX
    223 | February 12, 2013 6:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    I wonder if Obama will say, “If I had a brother, he would look like Chris”
    Maybe the can allege that Dorner did nothing, he was just wearing
    a hoodie.

    people here where mentioning mems the other day… this guy just blew up a few of them.

    Django Unglued.


  223. brookly red
    224 | February 12, 2013 6:30 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Token @Ivan_splash

    I hope Dorner shoots these niggas down and keeps on going, if you gonna go on a kill streak better put numbers up
    9:58 PM — 12 Feb 13
    3 RETWEETS 2 FAVORITES ReplyRetweetFavorite

    This is the kind of crap being put out by the self described
    “Team Dorner.”

    twitter might just need to block a bunch of accounts


  224. waldensianspirit
    225 | February 12, 2013 6:33 pm

    @ heysoos:
    They are dropping off a military vehicle from a lowbed trailer


  225. RIX
    226 | February 12, 2013 6:33 pm

    twitter might just need to block a bunch of accounts@ brookly red:

    That kind of stuff is all over twitter.


  226. buzzsawmonkey
    227 | February 12, 2013 6:35 pm

    Isn’t this the sort of thing that police departments used to have machine guns for? You just show up at the cabin, aim low, and grind it out.


  227. brookly red
    228 | February 12, 2013 6:35 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    They are dropping off a military vehicle from a lowbed trailer

    hope it’s a A1… what link you watching?


  228. waldensianspirit
    229 | February 12, 2013 6:36 pm

    I’m hoping for a whole bunch of demoralized progressive followers of Dorner’s before Obama’s liefest


  229. waldensianspirit
  230. waldensianspirit
    231 | February 12, 2013 6:38 pm

    drudge has “media told to pull helicopters”


  231. brookly red
    232 | February 12, 2013 6:38 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/

    watching that… must have missed it.


  232. waldensianspirit
    233 | February 12, 2013 6:38 pm

    And he had held these hostages for days


  233. waldensianspirit
    234 | February 12, 2013 6:40 pm

    @ brookly red:
    I was answering some text messages so it could have been 10 15 minutes ago

    Imagine fixing computer problems by text but some folks are more comfortable when they can pause and think


  234. heysoos
    235 | February 12, 2013 6:51 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Isn’t this the sort of thing that police departments used to have machine guns for? You just show up at the cabin, aim low, and grind it out.

    that would destroy the house…typically they would shut down all his power, gas and water first…I think he may be dead already


  235. 236 | February 12, 2013 6:51 pm

    Why aren’t we using some of these 1.6 billion rounds that DHS bought on this SOB?


  236. Speranza
    237 | February 12, 2013 6:52 pm

    One of the Deputies wounded in the shoot out has died.


  237. heysoos
    238 | February 12, 2013 6:52 pm

    they need to look at the house with heat sensors, find out if he’s alive and alone


  238. Speranza
    239 | February 12, 2013 6:52 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Why aren’t we using some of these 1.6 billion rounds that DHS bought on this SOB?

    Waiting to send in the social workers. /


  239. brookly red
    240 | February 12, 2013 6:53 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Isn’t this the sort of thing that police departments used to have machine guns for? You just show up at the cabin, aim low, and grind it out.

    that would destroy the house…typically they would shut down all his power, gas and water first…I think he may be dead already

    yes… it has been quiet for a bit. I think your right.


  240. heysoos
    241 | February 12, 2013 6:53 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    One of the Deputies wounded in the shoot out has died.

    oh man…bummer


  241. Speranza
    242 | February 12, 2013 6:54 pm

    “Christopher Dorner reportedly has been spotted in the San Bernadino Mountains and currently is engaged in a gun battle with the police. There is no truth to the rumor that the LAPD has convened a special commission to investigate whether anyone shooting at Dorner is a racist.”


  242. brookly red
    243 | February 12, 2013 6:54 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    they need to look at the house with heat sensors, find out if he’s alive and alone

    meh heat sensors… he turned on the stove lit up the fire place. worthless.


  243. Speranza
    244 | February 12, 2013 6:55 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    One of the Deputies wounded in the shoot out has died.

    oh man…bummer

    The other one is critically wounded. Catch this mofo and gas him just like “Tookie” Williams.


  244. buzzsawmonkey
    245 | February 12, 2013 6:56 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    that would destroy the house…

    Repairing a mountain cabin would be cheaper than a trial.


  245. heysoos
    246 | February 12, 2013 6:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    they need to look at the house with heat sensors, find out if he’s alive and alone

    meh heat sensors… he turned on the stove lit up the fire place. worthless.

    different signature…those guys are trained to distinguish between a Bic, a stove, a body, whatever


  246. heysoos
    247 | February 12, 2013 6:59 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    One of the Deputies wounded in the shoot out has died.
    oh man…bummer

    The other one is critically wounded. Catch this mofo and gas him just like “Tookie” Williams.

    they will just kill him now…I would if it were my call


  247. brookly red
    248 | February 12, 2013 6:59 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    they need to look at the house with heat sensors, find out if he’s alive and alone

    meh heat sensors… he turned on the stove lit up the fire place. worthless.

    different signature…those guys are trained to distinguish between a Bic, a stove, a body, whatever

    sorry a body in a heated room? one big signature


  248. heysoos
    249 | February 12, 2013 6:59 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    that would destroy the house…
    Repairing a mountain cabin would be cheaper than a trial.

    politics


  249. 250 | February 12, 2013 7:00 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Dorner will be a hero now.


  250. 251 | February 12, 2013 7:01 pm

    @ Rodan:

    To the left.


  251. heysoos
    252 | February 12, 2013 7:03 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    they need to look at the house with heat sensors, find out if he’s alive and alone
    meh heat sensors… he turned on the stove lit up the fire place. worthless.
    different signature…those guys are trained to distinguish between a Bic, a stove, a body, whatever

    sorry a body in a heated room? one big signature

    wrong, trust me, a heated room is not a heated body, even at the same temp…they can find him especially if he moves…light up the target, blow the doors, toss in a bunch of flash bangs, barge in and kill him…he cannot deal with multiple targets


  252. The Osprey
    253 | February 12, 2013 7:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    One of the Deputies wounded in the shoot out has died.

    Damn.


  253. brookly red
    254 | February 12, 2013 7:05 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    To the left.

    CJ is building a shrine as we speak…


  254. 255 | February 12, 2013 7:09 pm

    @ brookly red:

    They are claiming Libertarians, not Leftists support Dorner.

    218 wrenchwench Tue, Feb 12, 2013 3:23:44pm

    3
    down
    up
    report

    re: #214 Christopher’s Bitchins

    re: #210

    Zero overlap IMO. I really think most of the Dorner fans are inner city people who probably feel victimized by the police and are taking out their fury on the LAPD. I think most of the sovereign citizens and anti gubmint types think Dorner is a “librul”.

    I disagree. Some Dorner fans (as seen on Twitter) are anti-government libertarian types. The ‘inner city’ folks are more amused at seeing cops feeling helpless, but are not rooting for Dorner.

    That’s bullshit!


  255. brookly red
    256 | February 12, 2013 7:09 pm

    4 armored vehicles?


  256. heysoos
    257 | February 12, 2013 7:12 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    4 armored vehicles?

    good practice…they are probably arguing right now as to who gets to kill him, San Bernadino Co, State?


  257. brookly red
    258 | February 12, 2013 7:12 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I disagree. Some Dorner fans (as seen on Twitter) are anti-government libertarian types.

    this is like a sic-fi movie…


  258. heysoos
    259 | February 12, 2013 7:13 pm

    @ brookly red:
    FREEJACK!!!


  259. heysoos
    260 | February 12, 2013 7:16 pm

    shooting again…they are gassing him…I’d wait for dark


  260. brookly red
    261 | February 12, 2013 7:17 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    shooting again…they are gassing him…I’d wait for dark

    i think you called it he bleed out an hour ago…


  261. heysoos
    262 | February 12, 2013 7:18 pm

    they burned the cabin…wow


  262. heysoos
    263 | February 12, 2013 7:19 pm

    so Buzz called it


  263. lobo91
    264 | February 12, 2013 7:20 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    they burned the cabin…wow

    Tear gas canisters will do that.


  264. brookly red
    265 | February 12, 2013 7:21 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    they burned the cabin…wow

    well they needed to end it before the SOTU address…


  265. heysoos
    266 | February 12, 2013 7:21 pm

    ha!…they torched the guy…all this high tech wizardry and they go full medievil…that works too


  266. heysoos
    267 | February 12, 2013 7:24 pm

    so it goes from a lethal standoff to a BBQ…I love this town!


  267. brookly red
    268 | February 12, 2013 7:25 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    so it goes from a lethal standoff to a BBQ…I love this town!

    CJ evokes WACO in 3…2…1…


  268. 269 | February 12, 2013 7:25 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Well, it worked when they went after the SLA in ’74.


  269. 270 | February 12, 2013 7:28 pm

    @ brookly red:

    He won’t evoke Waco -- that’s his buddy Clinton and Butch Reno.


  270. buzzsawmonkey
    271 | February 12, 2013 7:28 pm

    The flames climbed high into the night
    To light the sacrificial rite
    Huffington Post lit up with delight
    The day that Dorner died
    They were posting:
    Why, why did Dorner have to die?
    When a negro pulls a tregro don’t you want to know why?
    He penned a racist rant over which we all cry
    Even though its substance is a lie
    Even though its substance is a lie


  271. RIX
    272 | February 12, 2013 7:29 pm

    Django Dorner might be a crispy critter now.
    What a bitch for Team Dorner.


  272. brookly red
    273 | February 12, 2013 7:29 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    He won’t evoke Waco — that’s his buddy Clinton and Butch Reno.

    what was that neighborhood they burnt in Philly?


  273. RIX
    274 | February 12, 2013 7:30 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Hey, can you do one with Sympathy for the Devil?


  274. heysoos
    275 | February 12, 2013 7:31 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    He won’t evoke Waco — that’s his buddy Clinton and Butch Reno.

    what was that neighborhood they burnt in Philly?

    I remember that…torched an entire block of row houses to get one guy?


  275. heysoos
    276 | February 12, 2013 7:32 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Hey, can you do one with Sympathy for the Devil?

    already has…his SFTD spoof is a masterpiece


  276. brookly red
    277 | February 12, 2013 7:32 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Hey, can you do one with Sympathy for the Devil?

    cashed a check at the central bank while Chicago burned and the congress stank?


  277. brookly red
    278 | February 12, 2013 7:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    He won’t evoke Waco — that’s his buddy Clinton and Butch Reno.

    what was that neighborhood they burnt in Philly?

    I remember that…torched an entire block of row houses to get one guy?

    c.o.r.e. comes to mind…


  278. lobo91
    279 | February 12, 2013 7:34 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I remember that…torched an entire block of row houses to get one guy?

    They dropped a bomb on the house the people were in and it started a fire that spread to the whole block, because they were afraid to let the fire department get close enough to put it out.


  279. Dolphin
    280 | February 12, 2013 7:34 pm

    @ brookly red:
    LOL. Probably true!


  280. RIX
    281 | February 12, 2013 7:34 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Missed it.


  281. buzzsawmonkey
    282 | February 12, 2013 7:34 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Hey, can you do one with Sympathy for the Devil?

    I have a conference call in half an hour, so I don’t have time to do one of those for Dorner right now; not properly, anyway. There’s this version about Obama, if you haven’t seen it: Deference to Obama.


  282. lobo91
    283 | February 12, 2013 7:35 pm

    @ brookly red:

    c.o.r.e. comes to mind…

    The group was called MOVE


  283. RIX
    284 | February 12, 2013 7:35 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Gracious.


  284. heysoos
    285 | February 12, 2013 7:35 pm

    well they torched the guy…place is an inferno, surrounded by pissed off LE…kind of a gurly approach


  285. The Osprey
    286 | February 12, 2013 7:35 pm

    Reminds me of the SLA shootout.


  286. brookly red
    287 | February 12, 2013 7:36 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    c.o.r.e. comes to mind…

    The group was called MOVE

    yes! move… thank you! well hell yes they moved.


  287. lobo91
    288 | February 12, 2013 7:37 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    well they torched the guy…place is an inferno, surrounded by pissed off LE…kind of a gurly approach

    They didn’t intentionally set the cabin on fire. Tear gas canisters burn at a pretty high temperature and frequently set furnishings on fire.


  288. Dolphin
    289 | February 12, 2013 7:37 pm

    @ heysoos:
    But guns were not used.

    //


  289. heysoos
    290 | February 12, 2013 7:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    c.o.r.e. comes to mind…
    The group was called MOVE

    yes…my memory is coming back…I thought the cops wanted a certain person that inspired this thing


  290. eaglesoars
    291 | February 12, 2013 7:39 pm

    I don’t understand why you all seem to be sure this is over. Ammo exploded, setting the fire. No confirmation that LE fired anything that would set off the ammo. Dorner could have set it as a diversion. Nobody is going to get close w/ammo cooking off.


  291. heysoos
    292 | February 12, 2013 7:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    well they torched the guy…place is an inferno, surrounded by pissed off LE…kind of a gurly approach
    They didn’t intentionally set the cabin on fire. Tear gas canisters burn at a pretty high temperature and frequently set furnishings on fire.

    right…in other words, they don’t care about a fire…that’s fine, just get rid of him


  292. lobo91
    293 | February 12, 2013 7:40 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    c.o.r.e. comes to mind…
    The group was called MOVE
    yes…my memory is coming back…I thought the cops wanted a certain person that inspired this thing

    It was a whole group of nutcases who were squatting in a house. They wanted them all out of there.

    Of course, blowing the place up may not have been the best way to go about it…


  293. buzzsawmonkey
    294 | February 12, 2013 7:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    It was a whole group of nutcases who were squatting in a house. They wanted them all out of there.

    Of course, blowing the place up may not have been the best way to go about it…

    The entire block ended up burning down as collateral damage.


  294. brookly red
    295 | February 12, 2013 7:42 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I don’t understand why you all seem to be sure this is over. Ammo exploded, setting the fire. No confirmation that LE fired anything that would set off the ammo. Dorner could have set it as a diversion. Nobody is going to get close w/ammo cooking off.

    /hey he was never there… mistaken identity, it was just a phat rapper who didn’t want to pay child support.


  295. lobo91
    296 | February 12, 2013 7:42 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I don’t understand why you all seem to be sure this is over. Ammo exploded, setting the fire. No confirmation that LE fired anything that would set off the ammo. Dorner could have set it as a diversion. Nobody is going to get close w/ammo cooking off.

    The fire was started by the gas grenades they fired into the cabin. They probably lit curtains or upholstery on fire, which often happens. The whole cabin then caught fire, and the ammo is cooking off in the fire.


  296. heysoos
    297 | February 12, 2013 7:42 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    c.o.r.e. comes to mind…
    The group was called MOVE
    yes…my memory is coming back…I thought the cops wanted a certain person that inspired this thing
    It was a whole group of nutcases who were squatting in a house. They wanted them all out of there.
    Of course, blowing the place up may not have been the best way to go about it…

    thanks, I’ll google it and remind myself…that was a hell of an incident


  297. Dolphin
    298 | February 12, 2013 7:43 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Exactly what I just said to hubby. This murderer is cunning.

    Why were the two deputies not wearing body armor/bullet proof vests?


  298. lobo91
    299 | February 12, 2013 7:44 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    The entire block ended up burning down as collateral damage.

    The whole thing was stupid. Blowing up the building to evict people doesn’t make any sense. That’s like shooting someone’s cat to get it down from a tree.


  299. heysoos
    300 | February 12, 2013 7:44 pm

    he’s cooked…pass the Tobasco


  300. heysoos
    301 | February 12, 2013 7:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    The entire block ended up burning down as collateral damage.
    The whole thing was stupid. Blowing up the building to evict people doesn’t make any sense. That’s like shooting someone’s cat to get it down from a tree.

    good analogy


  301. lobo91
    302 | February 12, 2013 7:46 pm

    @ Dolphin:

    Why were the two deputies not wearing body armor/bullet proof vests?

    Most cops wear Level IIIA soft body armor these days. It’ll stop most pistol rounds, but rifle rounds will go right through it.

    Only military and SWAT teams wear armor that will stop rifle rounds.


  302. brookly red
    303 | February 12, 2013 7:47 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    It was a whole group of nutcases who were squatting in a house. They wanted them all out of there.

    Of course, blowing the place up may not have been the best way to go about it…

    The entire block ended up burning down as collateral damage.

    well democrats have come a long way since then… now with eminent domain they don’t need to actually kill the occupants to build a shopping mall.


  303. eaglesoars
    304 | February 12, 2013 7:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The fire was started by the gas grenades they fired into the cabin

    I missed the part where gas grenades were fired.


  304. brookly red
    305 | February 12, 2013 7:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The whole thing was stupid. Blowing up the building to evict people doesn’t make any sense. That’s like shooting someone’s cat to get it down from a tree.

    you obviously have no clue as to the value of real estate.


  305. Dolphin
    306 | February 12, 2013 7:50 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense.


  306. brookly red
    307 | February 12, 2013 7:51 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    The fire was started by the gas grenades they fired into the cabin

    I missed the part where gas grenades were fired.

    no no grenades? no such thing… organic dispenser device is the PC term


  307. lobo91
    308 | February 12, 2013 7:51 pm

    @ brookly red:

    you obviously have no clue as to the value of real estate.

    It wasn’t an eminent domain case. The owners weren’t planning to tear down the house.


  308. brookly red
    309 | February 12, 2013 7:52 pm

    HAHAHAHAH Nancy Pelosi speaks!

    We need to burn it to see what’s in it


  309. lobo91
    310 | February 12, 2013 7:52 pm

    Dolphin wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Thanks for the clarification. Makes sense.

    And of course we don’t know where they were shot.

    Body armor only covers so much.


  310. waldensianspirit
    311 | February 12, 2013 7:52 pm

    Oh no! A deputy died!


  311. brookly red
    312 | February 12, 2013 7:53 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    you obviously have no clue as to the value of real estate.

    It wasn’t an eminent domain case. The owners weren’t planning to tear down the house.

    but the developers were…


  312. RIX
    313 | February 12, 2013 7:55 pm

    62 Charles Johnson
    Tue, Feb 12, 2013 2:19:37pm
    7
    down
    up
    report
    If he is in that cabin he’s pretty well trapped.

    Genuis!


  313. brookly red
    314 | February 12, 2013 7:56 pm

    sift for teeth… I called that.


  314. 315 | February 12, 2013 7:58 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I remember in 85 when the Phillie PD bombed some Black Militants.


  315. BatGuano
    316 | February 12, 2013 7:58 pm

    @ RIX:
    He always comes through.


  316. lobo91
    317 | February 12, 2013 7:58 pm

    @ brookly red:

    He’s ex-military. DOD has his DNA on file.


  317. heysoos
    318 | February 12, 2013 7:58 pm

    in the End, Chris Dorner turned out to be just another punk…whatever training he has didn’t compensate for his victimhood mentality…all smoke and no fire


  318. lobo91
    319 | February 12, 2013 7:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I remember in 85 when the Phillie PD bombed some Black Militants.

    That’s what we were talking about. It was a group called MOVE


  319. brookly red
    320 | February 12, 2013 8:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I remember in 85 when the Phillie PD bombed some Black Militants.

    well that was before PC :)


  320. eaglesoars
    321 | February 12, 2013 8:04 pm

    I’m watching LL Cool J beat the crap out of 2 guys.

    With his elbows.


  321. 322 | February 12, 2013 8:05 pm

    @ lobo91:

    They bombed a whole block. I was 10, I’ll never forget that.


  322. 323 | February 12, 2013 8:05 pm

    New Thread.


  323. The Osprey
    324 | February 12, 2013 8:06 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I’m watching LL Cool J beat the crap out of 2 guys.
    With his elbows.

    Dorner looks like a cross between LL Cool J and Barry Bonds.
    I say he’s a ‘roid rager.


  324. RIX
    325 | February 12, 2013 8:09 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ RIX:
    He always comes through.

    @ BatGuano:

    He is impossible to under estimate.


  325. eaglesoars
    326 | February 12, 2013 8:09 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    I’m watching LL Cool J beat the crap out of 2 guys.
    With his elbows.

    Dorner looks like a cross between LL Cool J and Barry Bonds.
    I say he’s a ‘roid rager.

    First pic I saw of Dorner I thought of LL. Haven’t seen a pic of Bonds in awhile.


  326. waldensianspirit
    327 | February 12, 2013 8:13 pm

    Dorner: “I am not a Christian”

    Okay, settles that


  327. waldensianspirit
    328 | February 12, 2013 8:27 pm

    Now they’re saying he escaped!


  328. eaglesoars
    329 | February 12, 2013 8:30 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Now they’re saying he escaped!

    What did I TELL you?


  329. eaglesoars
    330 | February 12, 2013 8:33 pm

    AP reporting he never emerged from the cabin


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