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Cop killers and the Leftists who love them

by Speranza ( 165 Comments › )
Filed under Crime, Political Correctness, Progressives at February 14th, 2013 - 10:38 am

I know it sounds like a Jerry Springer episode,  however Chris Dorner,  Leonard Peltier, Mumia Abu Jamal, Anthony Bottom (a Black Liberation Army killer who murdered two New York City policemen in 1971) all have their fans.

by Matthew Vadum

Nobody loves cop killers more than left-wingers do.

The grotesque outpouring of love for cop killer Chris Dorner, an ex-cop now presumed dead in a fiery shootout at Big Bear Lake, California, should make all sane Americans fear for the future of their country.

Dorner is suspected of killing at least one police officer and two others. He allegedly gunned down 28-year-old Monica Quan and her husband-to-be 27-year-old Keith Lawrence outside their home. Quan’s father Randy, a former Los Angeles Police Department officer turned lawyer, represented Dorner in disciplinary hearings that resulted in Dorner’s dismissal. Dorner reportedly called Mr. Quan days after the murder to taunt him.

Dorner’s cross-country rampage has been met in recent days with Facebook fan pages, sympathetic statements on Twitter, and grassroots-level enthusiasm for this brutal sociopath.

But making vicious killers into folk heroes in nothing new for the Left. American history in recent decades is bursting with cop killers romanticized by the Left.

Among them who have stuck it to The Man by killing “pigs” are: Troy Davis, executed in 2011 for murdering police officer Mark MacPhail as he came to the aid of an assault victim; Lovelle Mixon, killed in a gunfight with police in 2009; Mumia abu-Jamal, imprisoned for life for the 1981 murder of a police officer; Leonard Peltier, convicted in 1977 for gunning down FBI agents; Assata Shakur, escaped from prison in 1979, a member of the Black Panther Party (BPP) and Black Liberation Army (BLA), having been granted “asylum” in Cuba; and 1960s radicals like Marilyn Buck.

In a rambling self-incriminating manifesto that Dorner posted online, the ex-Los Angeles police officer says “No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer … but, as a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the streets are not the only people you have to watch.”

Dorner argues that he is sacrificing himself for the greater good by going on his murder spree, which he refers to as “a necessary evil” aimed at effecting change in the Los Angeles Police Department. [.......]

In one of several chilling passages, Dorner waxes philosophical: “Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.”

In his online screed, Dorner praises an assortment of left-wingers. He lauds President Obama for doing what he considers a good job under difficult circumstances. For their anti-Second Amendment efforts, Dorner hails TV host Piers Morgan, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), and Vice President Joe Biden. He also gives shout-outs to a galaxy of celebrities and public figures. Complimenting the First Lady on her hairstyle, he interjects, “Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama.”

There are also those slippery souls who stop short of endorsing Dorner’s killing spree, but who ponder aloud whether society drove him to murder.  [........]

MSNBC ranter Chris Matthews and death row groupie Marc Lamont Hill suggest that Dorner’s online essay is a kind of petition for redress of grievances that needs to be taken seriously.

Matthews suggested Americans shouldn’t be so quick to judge Dorner because he may have had a legitimate beef against the LAPD. He asked Los Angeles Times reporter Andrew Blankstein, “How do you write a story like this that’s objective for the big metropolitan paper, the Los Angeles Times?”

[.......]

Matthews, of course, has never been concerned about fairness for non-leftists. He prefers to lump nonviolent Tea Party supporters in with the Taliban and the Third Reich.

Hill, host of HuffPost Live and a professor at Columbia University, said the Dorner saga is a needed civics lesson for the public about racism and the excessive use of force. “This has been an important conversation that we’ve had about police brutality, about police corruption, about state violence.”

“As far as Dorner himself goes, he’s been like a real life superhero to many people,” Hill said. Adding an obligatory disclaimer, Hill said, “What he did was awful, killing innocent people was bad, but when you read his manifesto, when you read the message that he left, he wasn’t entirely crazy.”

Those cheering on Dorner were happy to see him exact vengeance against a corrupt system, Hill said. “It’s almost like watching Django Unchained in real life … It’s kind of exciting.”

Hill has a soft spot for those who murder police officers. He co-authored The Classroom and the Cell: Conversations on Black Life in America (Third World Press, 2012) with convicted cop killer Mumia abu-Jamal. Mumia, as left-wingers affectionately call him, is celebrated as a political prisoner even though in court he has never denied shooting Philadelphia police officer Daniel Faulkner execution-style in 1981.

The book is essentially a transcript of a mutual admiration society, as the two radicals trade compliments and insights about how rotten America is. Hill tells Mumia that “you’re in prison but somehow still free, while I’m out here feeling profoundly un-free.”

Even this highly successful black man with his Ivy League Ph.D. who is sometimes called a “celebrity intellectual,” feels oppressed by American society.

“But to some degree, I feel un-free because I’m still encumbered by the very things that I’m critiquing in my work: consumerism, patriarchy even White supremacy … I’m trying to heal, man.”

Not surprisingly, in 2009 Fox News fired Hill as a paid on-air contributor after he acquired a reputation for defending cop killers and racists. But somehow he keeps finding his way back onto TV screens.

Meanwhile, the ever-resourceful self-described “communist” Van Jones is urging Americans not to concern themselves with Dorner’s decidedly left-of-center views.

“In the wake of a tragedy, it is understandable to ask why this happened,” says Jones. “It is appropriate to discuss ways to keep it from happening again. But we should draw the line at suddenly giving an exalted place in our national discourse to the political rantings of a murderer.”

How convenient, especially since Dorner’s views on cops seem to differ little from his own.  [.......] Jones founded Oakland’s Ella Baker Center for Human Rights in order to combat perceived police brutality.

But with Barack Obama in power, it is more difficult to be shocked by sympathetic reactions to Dorner.

The people doing the cheering are the Democratic Party’s electoral base.

Obama himself invites rappers who praise cop killers to perform at the White House.

One such entertainer, Common, is known for performing, “A Song For Assata,” which is a tribute to fugitive black militant Assata Shakur. Here’s one verse from the tune:

[.......]

Common believes Shakur is a martyr. That’s one of the reasons he was invited to the White House. Obama and those who sympathize with cop killers are on the same wavelength.

If someone writes a song about Dorner, don’t be surprised if the person shows up at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

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  1. 1 | February 14, 2013 11:28 am

    I’d like ask any of the leftists who are so excited and enthused about the crimes of Dorner if they’d have liked him to move in next door. I’d ask the same about any of these animals the left loves so much. They all want Gitmo closed -- so I suggest that they offer Abdul the spare bedroom or the couch to crash on when he’s released.

    I have no sympathy for Dorner. And if he had been an NRA member or had attended a TEA Party rally, they’d have chalked him up as an Uncle Tom that got precisely what he deserved.


  2. Speranza
    2 | February 14, 2013 11:37 am

    Chris Matthews was particularly obnoxious last night.


  3. 3 | February 14, 2013 11:38 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    If he’d been an NRA member or Tea Partier he’d have been held up as a symbol of “all that’s wrong” with the NRA or the Tea Party. Instead, he is a hard-Left Obamabot, so nothing to see here, despite the fact that other hard-Left Obamabots are cheering for him. When someone like this does something like this, it doesn’t necessarily reflect on the groups that they might be part of. But when those gropus cheer the violent behavior, I think you can generalize to the group more. The proud thug-huggers at MSNBC and on Huff-Po would like to be just like Dorner. He is a hero to them, and that tells you all you need to know about them.


  4. 4 | February 14, 2013 11:39 am

    @ Speranza:

    I’m amazed Matthews still has a show. He has no viewers. I’m starting to wonder if the idiots at Comcast bought MSLSD as a tax shelter. Fox has the business model -- beats all three leftist channels combined every night (even with CNN being the channel of choice in captive viewer situations) and yet they insist on finding every mental defective or grifter with any name recognition and giving them a show.

    You’d think they’d like to MAKE money.


  5. 5 | February 14, 2013 11:41 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I remember when four cops were gunned down in cold blood in Oakland. The left was too busy tearing their hair out over Oscar Grant, a thug who was shot at BART on New Year’s Eve. However, it should be noted that the decent people in the Bay Area turned out by the hundreds to honor them on the days of their funerals.


  6. 6 | February 14, 2013 11:42 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Chris Matthews was particularly obnoxious last night.

    How could you possibly tell?

    And a brief OT for any scrounging for ammo and that have a Gander Mountain store nearby. Ask the nice folks when their resupply truck gets there and be there when it does. They actually are shipping what little of their annual Firearms and Shooting sales stuff they have out to their stores as and when they can, but it’s gonna be gone very soon after they take it off the truck. Worked for me this morning. Just saying…


  7. lobo91
    7 | February 14, 2013 11:43 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    You’d think they’d like to MAKE money.

    MSNBC has never made money, from the day it went on the air. That’s one of the reasons Microsoft bailed on them. They got tired of pouring money down a rathole.


  8. 8 | February 14, 2013 11:47 am

    @ lobo91:

    If I were a Comcast subscriber, I’d be taking a long, hard look the next time they asked for a rate increase….


  9. lobo91
    9 | February 14, 2013 11:50 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    If I were a Comcast subscriber, I’d be taking a long, hard look the next time they asked for a rate increase….

    I get my internet service from them, but not TV. My service just went up from $49 to $65 a month.


  10. 10 | February 14, 2013 11:54 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yup, over at MSNBC Chris Matthews had a tingle that Dorner praised him. They were comparing him to Django unchained. Since he’s a Lefty, he’s a hero.

    Expect to see Hipsters wearing Dorner T-Shirts.


  11. 11 | February 14, 2013 11:56 am

    @ lobo91:

    MSNBC is not in the business to make money. It’s about spreading propaganda. Same for Hollywood. They have just a few blockbusters, but those movies raise money to cover losses for their propaganda films.

    But I know you already know this.


  12. 12 | February 14, 2013 11:56 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    expect to see Hipsters wearing Dorner T-Shirts. He’s become a hero to the Left.


  13. 13 | February 14, 2013 11:57 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Notice the Media never followed up on the Aurora’s shooters ties with OWS?


  14. 14 | February 14, 2013 11:58 am

    @ Rodan:

    It’ll be a nice change from the “Mumia” and “Che” t-shirts they’re wearing now.


  15. 15 | February 14, 2013 11:58 am

    @ Rodan:

    There’s a great photo out there of some large black guy in a store in LA wearing a grey T-shirt lettered “Not Chris Dorner. Please don’t shoot.”


  16. 16 | February 14, 2013 11:59 am

    @ Rodan:

    I was under the impression that those reports had been discredited and were based on a single photograph that was never verified to be the Aurora shooter. Has new information surfaced?


  17. 17 | February 14, 2013 12:00 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:

    expect to see Hipsters wearing Dorner T-Shirts. He’s become a hero to the Left.

    Indeed, I expect we will. Is he really any different that Che’, except that Che’ had a larger body count?


  18. 18 | February 14, 2013 12:00 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Let’s not forget that great classic “Lions for Lambs” which was, I believe, pulled from theaters after two weeks because NO ONE was going to see it.


  19. 19 | February 14, 2013 12:01 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    There’s a great photo out there of some large black guy in a store in LA wearing a grey T-shirt lettered “Not Chris Dorner. Please don’t shoot.”

    :lol:

    That’s funny and clever!


  20. 20 | February 14, 2013 12:02 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I remember those t-shirts from my days at Cal. You’d have thought they were campaign shirts for a guy running from ASoUCB President.


  21. 21 | February 14, 2013 12:03 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I saw the clips from MSNBC, he’s become a hero to them. Had he been a Conservative/Libertarian who was fighting a Fascist government, the Left would use that to prove the Right is violent.

    The Left does not hate violence, they love it and feel they have a right to do it.


  22. 22 | February 14, 2013 12:03 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    …running FOR…..


  23. 23 | February 14, 2013 12:03 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    It was never followed up, so the trail went cold. I wonder what a true investigation would uncover.


  24. huckfunn
    24 | February 14, 2013 12:07 pm

    OT, but heh.
    Get your Rubio water bottle today!

    Send the liberal detractors a message that not only does Marco Rubio inspire you…he hydrates you too.


  25. 25 | February 14, 2013 12:09 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    :lol:

    Rubio is milking this for all its worth. Poland Spring BTW thanks him for drinking their brand. Although I prefer Fiji!


  26. 26 | February 14, 2013 12:12 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    I love the way Rubio was able to laugh at the incident, whereas a lot of others would have been all over the place apologizing. He made a mistake. He went out of camera range and reached for a water bottle. So what? At least he didn’t spend an hour lying to the American people about how great his programs were while making plans to destroy the country.


  27. 27 | February 14, 2013 12:13 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I like Dasani. Actually, I prefer my tap water and the Brita filter. Saves money.


  28. lobo91
    28 | February 14, 2013 12:13 pm

    Missouri Dems up the ante:

    Missouri Democrats Introduce Bill Giving Firearm Owners 90 Days To Turn Over “Assault” Weapons And Magazines…

    Missouri House Democrats have introduced an anti-gun bill which would turn law-abiding firearm owners into criminals by banning semi-automatic firearm possession:

    Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:

    (1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;

    (2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or

    (3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

    5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

    I think it’s interesting that this bill specifically applies only to people who are “legally in possession of” the weapons in question. Doesn’t apply to criminals.


  29. heysoos
    29 | February 14, 2013 12:16 pm

    @ lobo91:
    whoops!….they forgot to define assault weapon…back to the drawing board


  30. lobo91
    30 | February 14, 2013 12:19 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    whoops!….they forgot to define assault weapon…back to the drawing board

    That’s not the full text of the bill. I’m sure they defined it somewhere.


  31. 31 | February 14, 2013 12:19 pm

    @ lobo91:

    The good thing, of course, is if I remember correctly, Missouri’s legislature is heavily Republican. Sounds like libturd Dems pandering to their districts.

    How’s pretty puppy today?


  32. 32 | February 14, 2013 12:19 pm

    @ heysoos:

    “Assault Weapon” means any gun they don’t like. Which pretty much includes all of them. Anyone who thinks the Donks don’t want confiscation of all firearms simply isnt paying attention.


  33. 33 | February 14, 2013 12:20 pm

    @ lobo91:

    They define it at the website, I think. I didn’t read it, but I’m sure it says something like “any weapon that makes us shit in our pants when we look at a picture of it” -- which could be a Sooper Soaker for these pansies.


  34. 34 | February 14, 2013 12:21 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Aren’t all weapons assault weapons? I mean, that is what a weapon is for, to assault.

    But we are talking about the same crowd that views Dorner as some heroic freedom fighter.


  35. 35 | February 14, 2013 12:21 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I have zero water.


  36. 36 | February 14, 2013 12:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Rubio is milking this for all its worth. Poland Spring BTW thanks him for drinking their brand. Although I prefer Fiji!

    He’s handled it masterfully! When dealing with clowns, a good sense of humor is invaluable….


  37. lobo91
    37 | February 14, 2013 12:23 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    That’s exactly what it is. It won’t go anywhere.

    Having worked for a state legislature, though, I can tell you that bills are frequently copied and pasted from one state to another. They may be hoping that some other state will use it.

    Leia’s taking a nap. She had a long day in class yesterday.


  38. buzzsawmonkey
    38 | February 14, 2013 12:25 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    It’ll be a nice change from the “Mumia” and “Che” t-shirts they’re wearing now.

    Wasn’t Brendan Fraser in “The Mumia” and “The Return of the Mumia”?


  39. 39 | February 14, 2013 12:25 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Yep. They wanted him to squirm and he didn’t. They have no clue as to the art of laughing at yourself FIRST.


  40. lobo91
    40 | February 14, 2013 12:27 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    My students asked how Feinstein and company decided what guns to put on their list yesterday. They didn’t believe me when I told them she looked at pictures and picked out the ones that looked scary.

    I pulled up the Ruger website and showed them the page that has pictures of the various Mini-14 models, including the “tactical” one. That one is on the list, but the rest aren’t, even though they’re functionally identical.


  41. buzzsawmonkey
    41 | February 14, 2013 12:27 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    whoops!….they forgot to define assault weapon…

    Bloomberg defines a shaker on the dinnertable as “a salt weapon.”


  42. 42 | February 14, 2013 12:28 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ MacDuff:

    Yep. They wanted him to squirm and he didn’t. They have no clue as to the art of laughing at yourself FIRST.

    They have no clue as to the art of laughing at one’s self, period. Therein lie one of their vulnerabilities to be exploited.


  43. buzzsawmonkey
    43 | February 14, 2013 12:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    My students asked how Feinstein and company decided what guns to put on their list yesterday. They didn’t believe me when I told them she looked at pictures and picked out the ones that looked scary.

    Why shouldn’t a weapon look scary? Doesn’t being confronted by a scary-looking weapon increase the likelihood that a would-be malefactor will back down and flee without the necessity of bloodshed? If a weapon looks like a teddy bear or My Little Pony, that’s far less likely.


  44. lobo91
    44 | February 14, 2013 12:29 pm

    @ lobo91:

    This is the page I showed them.

    The second one from the top is on Feinstein’s list, but the rest aren’t.


  45. RIX
    45 | February 14, 2013 12:30 pm

    I speculated on the last thread that Oliver Stone
    or somebody like him will do a movie on Dorner.
    It will be pure Hollywood chic.
    I’m seeing a title like , “The Dorner Story, One
    mans fight against the system.”


  46. buzzsawmonkey
    46 | February 14, 2013 12:30 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I’m seeing a title like , “The Dorner Story, One
    mans fight against the system.”

    He’s a cop who plays by his own rules!


  47. 47 | February 14, 2013 12:31 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I don’t think even the California legislature would touch this one. They’re trying to pass some bills of their own, but they saw what happened when San Francisco passed a ludicrous law. We have term limits, but these “public servants” want to keep their public paychecks with subsequent office runs.


  48. 48 | February 14, 2013 12:32 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    @ MacDuff:

    Look at defeated al-Qaeda’;s latest achievement.

    Jihadists seize Syria town on Iraq border

    Syrian rebels from the Islamist Al-Nusra Front on Thursday seized the town of Shadadeh in the oil-rich northeastern province of Hasake, on the border with Iraq, a monitoring group said.

    “After three days of fierce battles against the army, Al-Nusra Front fighters have seized control of Shadadeh,” said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which relies on a broad network of activists, doctors and lawyers for its reporting.

    Rebels seize most of army base in north Syria, NGO says

    Syrian rebels took control of most of a strategic army base in northern Syria after a fierce firefight with President Bashar al-Assad’s forces on Wednesday, a monitoring group said.

    The military complex, known as Base 80, is tasked with securing the nearby Aleppo international airport as well as the Nayrab military airport.

    “Fierce clashes pitting troops against rebels loyal to Al-Nusra Front, Liwa al-Tawhid, Al-Muhajireen and other groups raged near Base 80, most of which has come under insurgent control,” said the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

    The fighting came a day after rebels in Aleppo province seized a military airport at Al-Jarrah and launched an assault on other air bases in the area, including the Aleppo international airport, closed since January 1

    .

    Al-Qaeda is is disintegrating accoding to the god-king.


  49. lobo91
    49 | February 14, 2013 12:32 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Why shouldn’t a weapon look scary? Doesn’t being confronted by a scary-looking weapon increase the likelihood that a would-be malefactor will back down and flee without the necessity of bloodshed? If a weapon looks like a teddy bear or My Little Pony, that’s far less likely.

    I actually made that point yesterday, too. One of the women in the class mentioned the way salespeople in gun stores seem to push women toward the “fashion colored” guns that are on the market these days.

    I always advise against them, for that very reason. They look like toys, which means you’re more likely to have to use it.


  50. huckfunn
    50 | February 14, 2013 12:32 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    It was a funny moment when Rubio reached down for that bottle, keeping his eyes on the camera the whole time. Made me LOL. It really showed his boyish charm. What’s even funnier is the way MFM wet their pants over it.


  51. 51 | February 14, 2013 12:33 pm

    @ RIX:

    Of course he will. This sort of story is tailor-made for another Oliver Stone mega-flop. After the dismal performance of the last couple of movies he’s made, I imagine Ollie is going to had a tough go finding a studio willing to back him.

    Hey, maybe SpongeMike Sweatpants with the ass the size of Oregon can loan him a couple mill.


  52. lobo91
    52 | February 14, 2013 12:33 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Al-Qaeda is is disintegrating.

    Someone forgot to tell them.

    Good thing they don’t use scary “assault weapons,” or the Dems would go after them.


  53. lobo91
  54. RIX
    54 | February 14, 2013 12:35 pm

    Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee on the House floor to arguing for lawmakers to stop the $85 billion in cuts to 2013 spending in the sequester…

    “I stand here as a freed slave because this Congress came together. Are we going to be able to do it today to free America?”
    Breibart

    She was once a slave? Who knew?


  55. 55 | February 14, 2013 12:36 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    He should have said, excuse me for a second. But yeah, it revealed that Rubio is not putting on an act. He really believes what he says.


  56. huckfunn
    56 | February 14, 2013 12:37 pm

    @ heysoos:
    @ lobo91:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    Assault rifle as defined in the Maryland Bill.

    Section A. Chapter 571, RSMo, is amended by adding thereto one new section, to be known as section 571.023, to read as follows:
    571.023. 1. As used in this section the following terms shall mean:
    (1) “Assault weapon”, any:
    (a) Semi-automatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
    a. A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
    b. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
    c. A folding or telescoping stock; or
    d. A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;
    (b) Semi-automatic pistol, or any semi-automatic, centerfire or rimfire rifle with a fixed magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than ten rounds of ammunition;
    (c) Semi-automatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:
    a. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
    b. A folding, telescoping or thumbhole stock;
    c. A shroud attached to the barrel, or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or
    d. The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol grip;
    (d) Semi-automatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:
    a. A pistol grip or thumbhole stock;
    b. Any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand;
    c. A folding or telescoping stock;
    d. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; or
    e. An ability to accept a detachable magazine;
    (e) Shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or
    (f) Conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which an assault weapon can be assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

    Assault weapon does not include any firearm that has been made permanently inoperable;

    BWAHAHAHAHA


  57. 57 | February 14, 2013 12:37 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Hey they are just hunting!

    I am sure Andrew Coumo is happy they are not using more than 10 rounds to kill deers!


  58. huckfunn
    58 | February 14, 2013 12:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    Number Of Times MSNBC Replayed Rubio Water Sip: 155…

    I saw that. Something like 110 times on the Butch Madow Show.


  59. 59 | February 14, 2013 12:38 pm

    @ RIX:

    She’s over 150 years old? Man, I’ve GOT to find out what skin care regimen she uses….

    …scratch that. Obviously, said skin care regimen causes severe brain damage.


  60. RIX
    60 | February 14, 2013 12:39 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Of course he will. This sort of story is tailor-made for another Oliver Stone mega-flop. After the dismal performance of the last couple of movies he’s made, I imagine Ollie is going to had a tough go finding a studio willing to back him.
    Hey, maybe SpongeMike Sweatpants with the ass the size of Oregon can loan him a couple mill.

    They actually could collaborate. Hollywood can’t resist
    a story like this.
    “One Black Man saying that he has had enough!”


  61. buzzsawmonkey
    61 | February 14, 2013 12:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I am sure Andrew Coumo is happy they are not using more than 10 rounds to kill deers!

    It would have been refreshing to hear someone say, straight out, in one of the hearings, “Politicians need a lot of killing. That’s why high-capacity magazines are necessary.”


  62. 62 | February 14, 2013 12:40 pm

    Al-Qaeda killed an Iranian commander.

    A senior commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard was killed in recent days in Syria, according to media reports.

    Hezbollah’s television channel Al-Manar reported that the man was killed in an attack by Syrian rebels. Additional information was not provided

    .


  63. 63 | February 14, 2013 12:40 pm

    @ RIX:

    Who’d want to own her? Waste of time and money, if you ask me… 8O


  64. 64 | February 14, 2013 12:40 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    :lol:

    That would have made them shit their pants.


  65. RIX
    65 | February 14, 2013 12:41 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:
    She’s over 150 years old? Man, I’ve GOT to find out what skin care regimen she uses….
    …scratch that. Obviously, said skin care regimen causes severe brain damage.

    She may be the most stupid woman in North America.
    She believes that we planted the Flag on Mars,
    which is a dis to the Moon.


  66. heysoos
    66 | February 14, 2013 12:42 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:
    She’s over 150 years old? Man, I’ve GOT to find out what skin care regimen she uses….
    …scratch that. Obviously, said skin care regimen causes severe brain damage.

    Jackson is the end product of the New Plantation System


  67. RIX
    67 | February 14, 2013 12:42 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Who’d want to own her? Waste of time and money, if you ask me…

    You would have to free her, too damn annoying.


  68. 68 | February 14, 2013 12:42 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    See my #62. You gotta love this. Al-Qaeda whacking an Iranian commander.

    I am enjoying the Syrian war! :evil:


  69. 69 | February 14, 2013 12:43 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    SpongeMike Sweatpants with the ass the size of Oregon can loan him a couple mill.

    Not publicly laughing uncontrollably at that is one of my Lenten acts of charity for the day!


  70. buzzsawmonkey
    70 | February 14, 2013 12:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    That would have made them shit their pants.

    The purpose of the Second Amendment is to make politicians shit their pants.


  71. lobo91
    71 | February 14, 2013 12:45 pm

    @ RIX:

    She may be the most stupid woman in North America.
    She believes that we planted the Flag on Mars,
    which is a dis to the Moon.

    She’s a senior member of the party that fought to keep her as a slave, too, but that’s probably too complicated for her to understand.


  72. huckfunn
    72 | February 14, 2013 12:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    He should have said, excuse me for a second. But yeah, it revealed that Rubio is not putting on an act. He really believes what he says.

    Rubio should start a competition. Come up with the best water analogy for a campaign slogan. I’ll start.
    Drink Rubio! Sparkling, Refreshing and Clarifying…


  73. buzzsawmonkey
    73 | February 14, 2013 12:46 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Who’d want to own her? Waste of time and money, if you ask me…

    Oh, come on. With that snout, I bet she’s a whiz at finding truffles.


  74. 74 | February 14, 2013 12:49 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    hey you have to love the Syrian War. Al-Qaeda killed an Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander!


  75. 75 | February 14, 2013 12:49 pm

    @ RIX:

    And my personal favorite….running to Los Angeles to plant her ample ass in front of the camera at Michael Jackson’s funeral to hold up her proclamation that she informed would be enacted on by Congress!

    To which Nancy Pelosi emailed: Oh HELL no!


  76. 76 | February 14, 2013 12:50 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Rubio! Hydrating the economy since 2010!!


  77. buzzsawmonkey
    77 | February 14, 2013 12:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    hey you have to love the Syrian War. Al-Qaeda killed an Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander!

    The Sambo Solution: let the tigers chase each other around the tree until they turn to butter.


  78. 78 | February 14, 2013 12:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Oh, come on. With that snout, I bet she’s a whiz at finding truffles.

    She’s blind?


  79. 79 | February 14, 2013 12:51 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    This actually will help him.


  80. heysoos
    80 | February 14, 2013 12:51 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    Oh, come on. With that snout, I bet she’s a whiz at finding truffles.
    She’s blind?

    in terms of common sense, yes


  81. 81 | February 14, 2013 12:53 pm

    Anybody see this?

    Later, peeps.


  82. 82 | February 14, 2013 12:53 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Al-Qaeda vs. Hizballah/Iran. This is awesome!


  83. 83 | February 14, 2013 12:53 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Sick!


  84. 84 | February 14, 2013 12:54 pm

    @ heysoos:

    She’s certainly a wiz at finding trifles!


  85. The Osprey
    85 | February 14, 2013 12:55 pm

    @ lobo91:

    The ones with the “shoulder thing that goes up”.


  86. heysoos
    86 | February 14, 2013 12:55 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    She’s certainly a wiz at finding trifles!

    especially assault trifles


  87. 87 | February 14, 2013 12:55 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    @ Rodan:

    Thank goodness it wasn’t Pennsylvania — otherwise Judge Mark Martin would say they probably annoyed the Muslims and deserved what happened to them.


  88. lobo91
    88 | February 14, 2013 12:55 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    In a sane world, these people would be laughed out of office.


  89. 89 | February 14, 2013 12:56 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Good one, buddy, good one. We could give Buzz a run for his money today!


  90. 90 | February 14, 2013 12:56 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, if al Qaeda is winning we should help the Syrians and if Syria is winning we should help al Qaeda. Until we run out of all of them. There really aren’t any good guys in this fight. The more fo them that get killed, though, the fewer of them there are to worry about.


  91. 91 | February 14, 2013 12:56 pm

    I’m a horrible person. There’s a dreadful task I must undertake here at work and I am SOOO being a bad employee and avoiding it….


  92. heysoos
    92 | February 14, 2013 12:57 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    the nuts are loose
    don’t shroud me bro!


  93. heysoos
    93 | February 14, 2013 12:58 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Good one, buddy, good one. We could give Buzz a run for his money today!

    you could, with Buzz I’m always the bridesmaid


  94. heysoos
    94 | February 14, 2013 12:59 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Yeah, if al Qaeda is winning we should help the Syrians and if Syria is winning we should help al Qaeda. Until we run out of all of them. There really aren’t any good guys in this fight. The more fo them that get killed, though, the fewer of them there are to worry about.

    all the moor reason for the IDF to sneak around and fuck things up


  95. The Osprey
    95 | February 14, 2013 1:03 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Anybody see this?
    Later, peeps.

    More Cultural Enrichment courtesy of unrestrained Muslim immigration.


  96. RIX
    96 | February 14, 2013 1:06 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:

    And my personal favorite….running to Los Angeles to plant her ample ass in front of the camera at Michael Jackson’s funeral to hold up her proclamation that she informed would be enacted on by Congress!

    To which Nancy Pelosi emailed: Oh HELL no!

    I think that she has a family living in her hair.
    The thing moves like it has a life of its own.


  97. 97 | February 14, 2013 1:09 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Yeah, if al Qaeda is winning we should help the Syrians and if Syria is winning we should help al Qaeda. Until we run out of all of them. There really aren’t any good guys in this fight. The more fo them that get killed, though, the fewer of them there are to worry about.

    My thoughts exactly!

    I saw a youtube video of AL-Qaeda fighters beheading captured Hizballah fighters. I was laughing my ass off.

    Assad brought this on himself. he gave shelter to AQ to allow them to attack us in Iraq. They never had intentions of leaving Syria. He played with fire, he’s getting burned.


  98. 98 | February 14, 2013 1:09 pm

    @ RIX:

    Hey, wasn’t she also the one during the Obamacare dust-up that tried to pass a DNC campaign worker/operative as a physician with a practice that was “suffering” because we didn’t have universal health insurance?


  99. 99 | February 14, 2013 1:11 pm

    @ heysoos:

    There are rumblings Israel may strike Hizballah. They are in a very weakened condition thanks to AL-Qaeda.


  100. 100 | February 14, 2013 1:13 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, I’ll shed no tears for the Assad regieme, but what comes afterward is likely to be worse. We’re going to have a failed State in Libya, a failed State in Egypt, and a failed State in Syria. Quite the trio of “successes” for Obama’s “Smart Diplomacy”. Clinton sure polished her resume while she was at State. It is difficult to see Kerry doing any worse than this.


  101. RIX
    101 | February 14, 2013 1:17 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Hey, wasn’t she also the one during the Obamacare dust-up that tried to pass a DNC campaign worker/operative as a physician with a practice that was “suffering” because we didn’t have universal health insurance?

    That sounds right.


  102. RIX
    102 | February 14, 2013 1:18 pm

    This is funny, Limbaugh is trying to determine who
    bought & sold Sheila Jackson Lee.


  103. 103 | February 14, 2013 1:20 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    But Obama said Al-Qaeda was disintegrating!

    :lol:

    Maybe AL-Qaeda will make Obama The New Caliph and McCain his Grand Vizier!
    :lol:


  104. MikeA
    104 | February 14, 2013 1:23 pm

    @ RIX:

    If he finds out, can we sue the person for unleashing this idiot on the public….? ;)


  105. heysoos
    105 | February 14, 2013 1:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    There are rumblings Israel may strike Hizballah. They are in a very weakened condition thanks to AL-Qaeda.

    I suggested that months ago…at least cross the Litani and do some recon, or even wreck some stuff


  106. RIX
    106 | February 14, 2013 1:25 pm

    MikeA wrote:

    @ RIX:

    If he finds out, can we sue the person for unleashing this idiot on the public….?

    I agree, that woman is a menace.


  107. buzzsawmonkey
    107 | February 14, 2013 1:27 pm

    RIX wrote:

    This is funny, Limbaugh is trying to determine who
    bought & sold Sheila Jackson Lee.

    I don’t know how you were emboldened
    To support government bloat
    I don’t know to whom you’re beholden
    You bought and sold your vote…

    —from “While Uncle Sam Gently Weeps”


  108. 108 | February 14, 2013 1:30 pm

    @ RIX:

    Limbaugh does have a great research staff -- Rush will get to the bottom of this. This is great -- we’ve finally found the ONE person in America that may be entitled to slavery reparations.


  109. 109 | February 14, 2013 1:32 pm

    @ RIX:

    Getting between her and a video camera has been known to be hazardous to your health.

    It think it would be great if we had ONE video camera on the street and then watched Sharpton, Jackson and Lee almost kill each other to get in front of it.

    Tonight on “VIDEO THUNDERSDOME” — Three Attention Whores enter. One Attention Whore leaves.


  110. RIX
    110 | February 14, 2013 1:33 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Congresswoman Lee thinks that she is a feed slave.
    Hey Manti Teo thought that he had a girlfriend.


  111. buzzsawmonkey
    111 | February 14, 2013 1:34 pm

    Say what you will about Sheila Jackson Lee, she and Henry Waxman have shown great leadership as the ranking minority members of the Congressional Nostril Caucus.


  112. 112 | February 14, 2013 1:35 pm

    @ RIX:

    And Democrats think $250,000 is a Million.


  113. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | February 14, 2013 1:36 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Congresswoman Lee thinks that she is a feed slave.

    Being a feed slave would account for her figure.

    In actuality, of course, she’s an affirmative-action holder of a Yale undergraduate degree and a University of Virginia law degree.


  114. 114 | February 14, 2013 1:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    It is all abou ther feelings, after all. She feels like she has been a slave. It doesn’t matter that no one has ever owned her, sold her (though she may be bought and paid for…). Her feelings trump mere reality…


  115. heysoos
    115 | February 14, 2013 1:38 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:
    And Democrats think $250,000 is a Million.

    and screaming allah akbar! while gunning people down is a work place accident….we’re doomed


  116. RIX
    116 | February 14, 2013 1:39 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Getting between her and a video camera has been known to be hazardous to your health.

    It think it would be great if we had ONE video camera on the street and then watched Sharpton, Jackson and Lee almost kill each other to get in front of it.

    Tonight on “VIDEO THUNDERSDOME” — Three Attention Whores enter. One Attention Whore leaves.

    Absolutely, Lee, Jackson & Sharpton would fight to
    the death to get in front of camera.


  117. buzzsawmonkey
    117 | February 14, 2013 1:40 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Her feelings trump mere reality…

    That qualifies her for “transgenderism,” should she so decide…


  118. 118 | February 14, 2013 1:40 pm

    Hagel may not have 60 votes. Whomever Obama puts up will be bad. There’s no hope for that. But Hagel is especially bad. I expect McCain to vote for him, though.


  119. RIX
    119 | February 14, 2013 1:41 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:

    And Democrats think $250,000 is a Million.

    Because they are sophisticated & nuanced.


  120. 120 | February 14, 2013 1:41 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I should think Shilia Jackson Lee qualifies for trans-spiecism, if she so desires. She just ain’t human…


  121. buzzsawmonkey
    121 | February 14, 2013 1:42 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I should think Shilia Jackson Lee qualifies for trans-spiecism, if she so desires. She just ain’t human…

    I am fighting strongly the temptation to break into a chorus of “Gorilla My Dreams.”


  122. RIX
    122 | February 14, 2013 1:43 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Congresswoman Lee thinks that she is a feed slave.

    Being a feed slave would account for her figure.

    In actuality, of course, she’s an affirmative-action holder of a Yale undergraduate degree and a University of Virginia law degree.

    I know that those are her academic credentials, but it doesn’t
    seem possible.


  123. RIX
    123 | February 14, 2013 1:46 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ RIX:

    It is all abou ther feelings, after all. She feels like she has been a slave. It doesn’t matter that no one has ever owned her, sold her (though she may be bought and paid for…). Her feelings trump mere reality…

    That is the exact argument that Ward Churchill made about
    being Native America. He said that he was in his heart.
    If he had said that I had a relative with high cheek bones
    he might be a Senator from Massachusetts now.


  124. buzzsawmonkey
    124 | February 14, 2013 1:48 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I know that those are her academic credentials, but it doesn’t
    seem possible.

    Sure it does. Obama has a Columbia BA and a Harvard JD.

    I remember back in Yertletown some years ago some troll or other going on about how this “proved” Obama’s brilliance. Those of us who went to college—especially a “name” college—back in the period of the early ’70s remember well that any black person who was reasonably articulate and not obviously criminal (which was a pretty low bar in those days of rampant drug use and student violence) was a sought-after “diversity” commodity, with the way before them smoothed the way a major football school typically smoothes the way for a talented player.


  125. buzzsawmonkey
    125 | February 14, 2013 1:49 pm

    RIX wrote:

    That is the exact argument that Ward Churchill made about
    being Native America. He said that he was in his heart.
    If he had said that I had a relative with high cheek bones
    he might be a Senator from Massachusetts now.

    He was being “transracial,” just as “transgenders” are about their self-mutilation.


  126. Speranza
    126 | February 14, 2013 1:49 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I’m amazed Matthews still has a show. He has no viewers. I’m starting to wonder if the idiots at Comcast bought MSLSD as a tax shelter. Fox has the business model — beats all three leftist channels combined every night (even with CNN being the channel of choice in captive viewer situations) and yet they insist on finding every mental defective or grifter with any name recognition and giving them a show.
    You’d think they’d like to MAKE money.

    His alcoholism gets worse and worse.


  127. 127 | February 14, 2013 1:49 pm

    @ RIX:

    I worked with an affirmative action Harvard Law grad -- guy was dumber than effing DIRT.


  128. Speranza
    128 | February 14, 2013 1:50 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yup, over at MSNBC Chris Matthews had a tingle that Dorner praised him. They were comparing him to Django unchained. Since he’s a Lefty, he’s a hero.
    Expect to see Hipsters wearing Dorner T-Shirts.

    An HBO or Showtime movie soon?


  129. 129 | February 14, 2013 1:51 pm

    The Commonwealth of Virginia isn’t total gone yet. From the VSSA (member here)…

    Victory for CHP Holder Privacy Protection

    The State Senate just passed the House of Delegates substitute to SB 1335 related to the personal information of concealed handgun permit holders being public information. The bill as introduced would have only protected the personal information of those permit (CHP) holders who had an active protective order. The House made the bill applicable to all CHP holders. The Senate voted by a vote of 31-9 to accept the House Substitute. This is a huge victory for Virginia CHP holders. If signed by Governor McDonnell, CHP holders will no longer have to worry about their personal information being published in newspapers or being available to anyone other than law enforcement.

    When the final vote is posted on the Legislative Information System, VSSA will post the link on the VSSA Blog and gun owners are urged to thank those senators who supported the right to privacy of CHP holders.


  130. 130 | February 14, 2013 1:53 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    BTW, “CHP” is what VA calls what is often known as “CCW.” “Concealed Handgun Permit”


  131. 131 | February 14, 2013 1:53 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I have this feeling that Tingles is seriously, one day, going to have such a melt-down on the air with a conservative guest, begin to use foul language and go on such a delusional rant that even MSLSD is going to be unable to cover up for it and will have to remove him from the air.

    To that end, I’m emailing the suggestion that Ted Nugent would make a great guest….


  132. huckfunn
    132 | February 14, 2013 1:54 pm

    The Red Cross just knocked on my door and asked if we could contribute towards the floods in Pakistan. I said we’d love to, but our garden hose only reaches to the end of the driveway. :grin:


  133. 133 | February 14, 2013 1:55 pm

    @ Speranza:

    You bet and he will be portrayed as a hero.


  134. RIX
    134 | February 14, 2013 1:56 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    I hear what you’re saying, My guess is nthat Lee benefited from Affirmative
    Action.
    A prof asked me to tutor a minoity sst aside student in Political Science,
    seriously Ploy Sci.
    I met her at a bar & grill & she had three really unhappy homies with her.
    She said & I quote, “I ain’t doin nutin for dat mother f--ker, no way.
    Short meeting & I quoted her exactly to the prof.


  135. 135 | February 14, 2013 1:58 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    The Jazzy Ponytail twinkles that Buzz is a racist in 5…4…3…


  136. 136 | February 14, 2013 1:59 pm

    @ huckfunn:

    Buzz is getting competition all OVER this thread today!!


  137. huckfunn
    137 | February 14, 2013 2:06 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    :wink:


  138. 138 | February 14, 2013 2:08 pm

    @ RIX:

    RIX -- there was a lot of pressure, both before and after Bakke for well-known colleges and universities to “hide” the academic insufficiencies of minority students matriculating under the minority set asides. Now, this could be done very easily at Harvard, Yale, etc., but when you got down to the schools that didn’t get the memo, where it was teach and grade, it was obvious from the start that affirmative action admissions were resulting in high drop out rates, lowered GPA.

    A lot is made by the media that Oblahblah was “President” of the Harvard Law Review. Up until just about the time Oblahblah was 3L eligible, the Law Review was attainable only for the top students. By the time the Genius came along, there were slots set aside for election to the Law Review.

    Just like being POTUS, where he loves the trappings and hates and avoids anything that resembles actual work, the Genius only wanted to be ON the Law Review, ideally to be President of the Law Review -- he certainly submitted and neither to I believe he edited any scholarly articles. But I’m sure made the cocktail party rounds with a puffed up chest and a shitload of bull.


  139. RIX
    139 | February 14, 2013 2:14 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:
    I read somewhere that the rules had to be revised to make
    Obama Editor of the Harvard Law Review.
    I don’t think that Obama sits in a corner with a drool cup,
    but the mystique of his intellect is over rated.


  140. buzzsawmonkey
    140 | February 14, 2013 2:19 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I don’t think that Obama sits in a corner with a drool cup,
    but the mystique of his intellect is over rated.

    All one has to do is hear him talk, and it is obvious to anyone that while he may be credentialed, he is in no way educated—and that he is both ill-read and intellectually incurious.


  141. 141 | February 14, 2013 2:20 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    But he wrote two books about his favorite topic… 8O


  142. buzzsawmonkey
    142 | February 14, 2013 2:23 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    But he wrote two books about his favorite topic…

    …at least one of which had to be ghost-written by “some guy in the neighborhood,” because he couldn’t pull it together.


  143. 143 | February 14, 2013 2:27 pm

    @ RIX:

    I’ve seen nothing to indicate that he has any type of intellect whatsoever, especially since he is such a failure at extemporaneous speaking. I imagine that this is the primary reason for the “sealing” of Obama’s transcripts -- it would, I think, reveal that he is a less than stellar, indeed less than average student who was helped along the way in his efforts in higher education by outside forces. I think there is a LOT about his background he does not want anyone to know.

    I would not be surprised if he didn’t lobby for a change in the rules when he realized he was never going to get there on grades. Or he had his “patrons” lobby for him.


  144. RIX
    144 | February 14, 2013 2:27 pm
    All one has to do is hear him talk, and it is obvious to anyone that while he may be credentialed, he is in no way educated—and that he is both ill-read and intellectually incurious.
    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Good way to put it.
    Obama has had charmed life. A poor student in high school
    gets an academic scholarship to Occidental College?


  145. 145 | February 14, 2013 2:28 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That was my first thought -- he wrote two books about himself and he still needed someone to help him. Someone who was President of the Harvard LAW Review, and — being mindful that this is a profession that is ALL about writing persuasively — he STILL needed someone else to write them for him.


  146. 146 | February 14, 2013 2:31 pm

    @ RIX:

    Educated and intellectual are men like Thomas Sowell, Antonin Scalia, and the late William F. Buckley. It wouldn’t matter the topic you threw at them — they would be able to discourse on the subject for hours based on what knowledge they had — and would not be running to GOOGLE for pointers and sound bites.


  147. buzzsawmonkey
    147 | February 14, 2013 2:46 pm

    After my father retired, he became—for a brief time—a member of something that was called the “Executive Service Corps.” This was an initiative in the Chicago area to try and bring in people who had served on school boards in the “greater Chicagoland area” to help the members of the newly-formed local school boards in Chicago learn how to handle their responsibilities.

    At one point, he was down at the Museum of Science and Industry on Chicago’s South Side with a black man who was on the board he was working with. The black man watched the kids swarming all over the museum—and he noticed that the white parents were, for the most part, taking their kids around from exhibit to exhibit, explaining what each one was about and encouraging them to draw lessons from the interactive gear displays. The black parents, for the most part, just turned their kids loose and let them run wild, without engaging them. He turned to my father with a sigh, and said, wistfully, “white parents nurture their children.”

    This does not occur, of course, strictly along color lines. But I mention the incident here to point out—since we are talking about affirmative action college admissions—that early nurture of this sort is what builds a curious and intellectual child. Project Head Start, which should properly be named “Project Catch-Up,” has been shown in study after study to be an abject failure, because it cannot substitute for this kind of parental engagement and in any event, even if it could, it gets the kids too late. The engagement starts with talking and playing and reading to the gurgling infant.

    This explains, in part, the deep-seated racial rage that is at first glance so odd to find in the more highly-educated blacks. Why, when they have gone so far, are they so angry? Part of it, it seems to me, is that the higher they go the more they meet people who are formidably competent, in part because of a nurture that began when they were very young—and the more conscious they become of the many things that they don’t know, and will never know, that others in the circles to which they have risen take for granted. Far easier to explain this in terms of skin pigment, and to resent those around them accordingly, than to realize that they are suffering the effects of a deprivation which, while no fault of their own, would require immense effort on their part to address.


  148. Speranza
    148 | February 14, 2013 2:54 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    “white parents nurture their children.”

    I remember my parents taking me and my sister every week to the public library.


  149. Speranza
    149 | February 14, 2013 2:54 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Educated and intellectual are men like Thomas Sowell, Antonin Scalia, and the late William F. Buckley. It wouldn’t matter the topic you threw at them — they would be able to discourse on the subject for hours based on what knowledge they had — and would not be running to GOOGLE for pointers and sound bites.

    They were well educated and more importantly -- self taught.


  150. 150 | February 14, 2013 2:54 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Mine too. I was allowed two books.


  151. Speranza
    151 | February 14, 2013 2:55 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    That was my first thought — he wrote two books about himself and he still needed someone to help him. Someone who was President of the Harvard LAW Review, and — being mindful that this is a profession that is ALL about writing persuasively — he STILL needed someone else to write them for him.

    He wrote two books about himself by the time he was 30, and it probably was one more book then he actually read.


  152. Speranza
    152 | February 14, 2013 2:57 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Mine too. I was allowed two books.

    That’s where Speranza developed his love of history. Remember the Landmark American history books?
    Btw I spoke to Annie Chapman last night near Hanbury Street. She wants to know where her bar of soap is?


  153. Speranza
    153 | February 14, 2013 2:58 pm

    Getting a library card had the same status as a 7 year old for me as getting a Driver License was almost 13 years later.


  154. buzzsawmonkey
    154 | February 14, 2013 2:58 pm

    @ Speranza:
    @ Carolina Girl:

    My father’s mother—for whom English was very much a second language—took her kids to the public library every week also. It was through reading a book he got at the library that my father found out there was such a thing as a “scientist,” and got the notion that he might like to become one.


  155. Speranza
    155 | February 14, 2013 3:00 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    My father’s mother—for whom English was very much a second language—took her kids to the public library every week also. It was through reading a book he got at the library that my father found out there was such a thing as a “scientist,” and got the notion that he might like to become one.

    I remember reading a book that had at least 100 pages in it was such an accomplishment!


  156. 156 | February 14, 2013 3:20 pm

    @ Speranza:

    You know, I was working on something briefly and had to step away, but the mind wandered for a bit and thought -- when you think about the folks on this board, and the intellectual curiosity that so many of us have -- in fact, I doubt there isn’t a single person on this board that isn’t well read (okay, I can think of ONE, but I don’t count him as being among the peers), and you think about the Swamp. The only one I would even consider hanging an “intelligence” label on is lawhawk.

    So much lost. And NOTHING gained.


  157. 157 | February 14, 2013 3:25 pm

    A little more on topic. And designed to make you very incensed, for which I apologize in advance. It’s hard to believe my home state would put up with this bullshit:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/14/charlotte-newspaper-mocks-murder-of-seal-sniper-chris-kyle-to-take-cheap-shot-at-second-amendment-supporters/#disqus_thread


  158. 158 | February 14, 2013 3:32 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I am informed this paper is in Ft. Charlotte, Florida and not Charlotte, North Carolina.

    So, “M”, the road trip to their editorial offices will not take place after all.


  159. Da_Beerfreak
    159 | February 14, 2013 3:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    There are rumblings Israel may strike Hizballah. They are in a very weakened condition thanks to AL-Qaeda.

    Heard to that the Israeli government has warned UN “peacekeepers” in Lebanon to be very careful about their own safety, a storm is brewing and could breakout at anytime…


  160. Speranza
    160 | February 14, 2013 3:45 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    You know, I was working on something briefly and had to step away, but the mind wandered for a bit and thought — when you think about the folks on this board, and the intellectual curiosity that so many of us have — in fact, I doubt there isn’t a single person on this board that isn’t well read (okay, I can think of ONE, but I don’t count him as being among the peers), and you think about the Swamp. The only one I would even consider hanging an “intelligence” label on is lawhawk.

    So much lost. And NOTHING gained.

    There is a hell of a lot of smart folks here just like at the old LGF. I agree with you about lawhawk. He came across like a genuine intellectual.


  161. Da_Beerfreak
    161 | February 14, 2013 3:49 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Rodan:

    Yeah, I’ll shed no tears for the Assad regieme, but what comes afterward is likely to be worse. We’re going to have a failed State in Libya, a failed State in Egypt, and a failed State in Syria. Quite the trio of “successes” for Obama’s “Smart Diplomacy”. Clinton sure polished her resume while she was at State. It is difficult to see Kerry doing any worse than this.

    From what I’ve read the Iranian Plan B if they can’t save the current regime in Syria (with or without Assad) is to do all they can to prevent a pro-western government from taking over in Syria by keeping the civil war going as long as they can. To the Iranians a failed Syria is better then a pro-west Syria.


  162. Alberta Oil Peon
    162 | February 14, 2013 3:49 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    My students asked how Feinstein and company decided what guns to put on their list yesterday. They didn’t believe me when I told them she looked at pictures and picked out the ones that looked scary.
    Why shouldn’t a weapon look scary? Doesn’t being confronted by a scary-looking weapon increase the likelihood that a would-be malefactor will back down and flee without the necessity of bloodshed? If a weapon looks like a teddy bear or My Little Pony, that’s far less likely.

    So arming my Japanese AV idol ninja squad with Hello Kitty AR-15′s is right out, then?


  163. Speranza
    163 | February 14, 2013 4:47 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    To the Iranians a failed Syria is better then a pro-west Syria.

    Real nice folks there in Tehran.


  164. darkwords
    164 | February 14, 2013 8:38 pm

    Did Obama speak out for the police killed by doener? I doubt it. Shows his loyalties. A real leader would make a statement.

    Doners manifesto should be ignored since he killed an innocent woman to advertise it to folks.


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