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Rumor: Rahm Emanuel is considering a 2016 run

by Rodan ( 119 Comments › )
Filed under Democratic Party, Elections 2016, Liberal Fascism, Progressives, Socialism, Tranzis at February 15th, 2013 - 11:00 am

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Chicago is a disaster of a city economically and criminal wise. Shooting and death happens daily and the situation seems out of control. Instead of trying to solve Chicago’s problems, rumors have it that Rahm Emanuel has ambitions for higher office. Rumors have it that he is contemplating a run for the White House in 2016.

The 53-year-old Emanuel, who is busy raising money for his 2015 reelection campaign in the Windy City, has had discussions both over the phone and face to face in the past month with Democratic Party donors and fundraisers about a possible White House run, according to sources.

It’s unclear who raised the subject—Emanuel or the donors—and the mayor’s press secretary didn’t offer any clarity on who said what to whom. However, Tarah Cooper sent a photo of Emanuel’s scrawl on yellow legal paper vowing “not ever” to run “for another office” and reiterated his longstanding pledge that, in his words, he’s “not interested. Not going to do it. No. I’ll do it in Hebrew: lo.” (Emanuel, the son of an Israeli doctor, had dual citizenship until he was 18.) Others expressed skepticism that any such discussions between Emanuel and donors could have been serious.

[….]

Yet rumors of Emanuel’s higher ambitions persist. “I heard there were some conversations with donors especially during the inauguration,” a well-known Democratic politico told The Daily Beast, referring to the January 20-21 celebrations in Washington marking the launch of President Obama’s second term. A second highly placed Democrat echoed that account.

If these rumors are true, Rahm Emanuel’s presence will make the Democrat primary in 2016, a very nasty brutal affair.

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  1. buzzsawmonkey
    1 | February 15, 2013 11:07 am

    I can’t wait for his “Swan Lake” campaign ads…


  2. 2 | February 15, 2013 11:07 am

    Oh, this should be good….
    The downside, of course, will be seeing his smarmy face all over the networks.


  3. 3 | February 15, 2013 11:08 am

    An oppertunity to continue taking America in the direction of Chicago. Because Chicago is such a shining success…


  4. 4 | February 15, 2013 11:10 am

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I’m sure he looks just fetching in a black leotard. And those cute shoes.


  5. 5 | February 15, 2013 11:12 am

    This will get interesting.


  6. 6 | February 15, 2013 11:12 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    An oppertunity to continue taking America in the direction of Chicago. Because Chicago is such a shining success…

    It seems Chicago has taken over America!


  7. buzzsawmonkey
    7 | February 15, 2013 11:13 am

    Must…not…make…”She”-cago joke…


  8. RIX
    8 | February 15, 2013 11:23 am

    Emanuel is the meanest toe dancer ever!


  9. RIX
    9 | February 15, 2013 11:26 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    An oppertunity to continue taking America in the direction of Chicago. Because Chicago is such a shining success…

    It seems Chicago has taken over America!

    Chicago is now being referred to as “Murder City”
    With the nations most restrictive gun laws, how can
    this be?
    Libs just say more laws.


  10. 10 | February 15, 2013 11:28 am

    @ RIX:

    They need stricter laws!
    ////


  11. 11 | February 15, 2013 11:28 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Must…not…make…”She”-cago joke…

    That’s why I call it Обамаград!


  12. eaglesoars
    12 | February 15, 2013 11:42 am

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    I can’t wait for his “Swan Lake” campaign ads…

    nope. His campaign song is going to be Elton John’s “Tiny Dancer”


  13. 13 | February 15, 2013 12:05 pm

    First, LaRue Tactical. Then Olympic Arms. Now York Arms. Anybody else see a pattern devoloping here?

    http://www.ammoland.com/2013/02/york-arms-cancels-all-its-new-york-police-orders/#axzz2KvrubcNd

    Hat tip – bonz at GCP


  14. RIX
    14 | February 15, 2013 12:06 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    They need stricter laws!
    ////

    Absolutely!/


  15. 15 | February 15, 2013 12:07 pm

    Wow, this country has become less an experiment in self-governance than an example of the Peter Principle.


  16. buzzsawmonkey
    16 | February 15, 2013 12:08 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Wow, this country has become less an experiment in self-governance than an example of the Peter Principle.

    Speaking of the Peter Principle, California now insists that porn actors wear condoms.


  17. 17 | February 15, 2013 12:10 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Yup and I applaud them!


  18. RIX
    18 | February 15, 2013 12:10 pm

    A meteor slams into Russian & later today an asteroid
    will pass relatively close to Earth.
    Coincidence? I think not.
    Cheney is no doubt in a secret, undisclosed location
    manipulating events./


  19. 19 | February 15, 2013 12:11 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Wow, this country has become less an experiment in self-governance than an example of the Peter Principle.

    This is another example.

    The Obama Boom: Industrial Production falls .01%

    People think the economy is booming despite economic facts.


  20. 20 | February 15, 2013 12:14 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speaking of the Peter Principle, California now insists that porn actors wear condoms.

    What a bunch of pricks!


  21. RIX
    21 | February 15, 2013 12:14 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Wow, this country has become less an experiment in self-governance than an example of the Peter Principle.

    Look at the last three cabinet appointments, Brennan,
    Kerry & Hagel. Not Americas best.


  22. buzzsawmonkey
    22 | February 15, 2013 12:15 pm

    A public dancer
    A dancer for power
    Who’ll do just what he wants to do
    A public dancer
    A dancer for power
    Doesn’t give a damn whom he must screw


  23. Buffalobob
    23 | February 15, 2013 12:18 pm

    If the only way to get out of Chicago is to become president, what chances do the gang banger have?


  24. livefreeor die
    24 | February 15, 2013 12:18 pm

    The Clinton machine will start taking him down any time now. They aren’t going to let anybody else have a snowball’s chance by the time the primaries roll around.

    I’m sure all the dirt Panetta quietly dug up during his CIA stint on Obama’s buddies will come in handy.


  25. 25 | February 15, 2013 12:19 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Look at the last three cabinet appointments, Brennan,
    Kerry & Hagel. Not Americas best.

    As far as cabinet appointments, Panetta was the best of the lot and there will com a time when we wish we had him back.


  26. 26 | February 15, 2013 12:21 pm

    @ RIX:

    All horrible people.


  27. 27 | February 15, 2013 12:26 pm

    Later, all of you reactionary, redneck SOBs, I have errands to run! :D :D


  28. 28 | February 15, 2013 12:27 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    :lol:


  29. 29 | February 15, 2013 12:28 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Panetta was pretty sorry, himself. He certainly didn’t cover himself with glory when it came to Benghazi. He knows nothing, he did nothing, and above all, he’s saying nothing. He’s a stooge.


  30. 30 | February 15, 2013 12:31 pm

    @ livefreeor die:

    This should prove interesting, because IIRC Rahm came to prominence as part of the Clinton machine. Perhaps it’s just my reactionary redneck paranoia but I can’t help but think there’s a larger purpose to this.


  31. 31 | February 15, 2013 12:33 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    I see them as far worse that their predecessors. It’s like one of us said during his first term “he couldn’t get any worse” and he answered “oh YEAH?????”


  32. 32 | February 15, 2013 12:34 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBOcwgb4OA


  33. 33 | February 15, 2013 12:36 pm

    Since we’re on the subject of delusional, sick, sad politicians and the Party that loves them:

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/15/harry-reid-im-going-to-call-hagel-to-say-im-sorry-for-gop-filibuster/#disqus_thread

    Which prompts me to say – since he’s in the mood to apologize, I’ll be standing by my phone on behalf of the TEA Party.

    Lobo will stand by on behalf of the NRA.


  34. 34 | February 15, 2013 12:37 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    Jerry Jeff Walker – the guy who introduced Jimmy Buffett to Key West…..


  35. lobo91
    35 | February 15, 2013 12:38 pm

    Harry Reid: I’m Going To Call Hagel To Say “I’m Sorry” For GOP Filibuster…

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Thursday said he would personally call former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) and apologize for the halted Senate confirmation.

    They are filibustering him. That’s what they are doing. And I’m going to call him Chuck Hagel when I finish here and say, “I’m sorry, sorry that this happened. I’m sorry for the president, I’m sorry for the country, and I’m sorry for you, but we’re not going to give up on you.”


  36. 36 | February 15, 2013 12:39 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Hee Lobo – check mine out above – you got an honorable mention!


  37. Guggi
    37 | February 15, 2013 12:39 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Speaking of the Peter Principle, California now insists that porn actors wear condoms.

    What’s wrong with it ?


  38. 38 | February 15, 2013 12:40 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I hope they go to the mat for him. They need to show America and Israel exactly how much contempt for them the Democrats really have.


  39. 39 | February 15, 2013 12:42 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Opposing Hagel manes you are a Reactionary Redneck!
    //////


  40. 40 | February 15, 2013 12:46 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Make that a paranoid reactionary redneck.


  41. 41 | February 15, 2013 12:47 pm

    @ lobo91:

    How much do you want to bet that Sen. Pederast lobbies Обама to make a “Recess Appointment”, Constitution be Damned?!


  42. buzzsawmonkey
    42 | February 15, 2013 12:47 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    What’s wrong with it ?

    We can start with “what’s wrong with it” by looking at the corruption and decay which permits pornography to operate as an open and legitimate industry.

    We can then point out that if the porno industry is indeed a “legitimate industry,” mandating condoms on the dicks of its fuckboys kind of destroys the product that this “legitimate industry” is selling.

    In a bizarre way, the above actually shows the Obama Economy—dickhead style—by legitimating an illegitimate industry and then regulating it to death.


  43. 43 | February 15, 2013 12:50 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Make that a paranoid reactionary redneck.

    Yes forgot the paranoid part.


  44. 44 | February 15, 2013 12:53 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Well, we want to be correct around here. Don’t want to disappoint the sanctimonious condescending dickheads that come here to think they aren’t providing a valuable education.


  45. 45 | February 15, 2013 12:54 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Yes, we must listen to our betters!


  46. Tanker
    46 | February 15, 2013 12:57 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Well, we want to be correct around here. Don’t want to disappoint the sanctimonious condescending dickheads that come here to think they aren’t providing a valuable education.

    Really good to see Ca hasn’t taken all your NC cut throat redneck attitude from you. A homegirl to this redneck!


  47. buzzsawmonkey
  48. lobo91
    48 | February 15, 2013 1:00 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    How much do you want to bet that Sen. Pederast lobbies Обама to make a “Recess Appointment”, Constitution be Damned?!

    It’s really fascinating to think that the Senate under Reid is the first legislative body in human history to voluntarily give up some of its power.


  49. lobo91
    49 | February 15, 2013 1:01 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Hee Lobo — check mine out above — you got an honorable mention!

    I’m waiting by the phone.


  50. buzzsawmonkey
    50 | February 15, 2013 1:02 pm

    Macker wrote:

    How much do you want to bet that Sen. Pederast lobbies Обама to make a “Recess Appointment”, Constitution be Damned?!

    I bet Obama was a holy terror at recess even as a little kid.


  51. 51 | February 15, 2013 1:02 pm

    @ Tanker:

    I’m still laughing over what happened in the last thread. Opposing a Nanny state makes somebody a Paranoid Reactionary Redneck!

    :lol:

    Its just one of those WTF moments.


  52. buzzsawmonkey
    52 | February 15, 2013 1:04 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    I’m still laughing over what happened in the last thread. Opposing a Nanny state makes somebody a Paranoid Reactionary Redneck!

    Moe Katz is an asshole.


  53. lobo91
    53 | February 15, 2013 1:04 pm

    Not News: Rangel To File Bill Reinstating The Military Draft. News: Including Females…

    Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) on Friday said he plans to introduce legislation that would bring back the military draft and extend it to women for the first time.

    Rangel, who has pushed for years to bring back the draft, said the Pentagon’s decision to allow women to serve in combat means that they too should register for the Selective Service.

    “Now that women can serve in combat they should register for the Selective Service alongside their male counterparts,” Rangel said in a statement. “Reinstating the draft and requiring women to register for the Selective Service would compel the American public to have a stake in the wars we fight as a nation. We must question why and how we go to war, and who decides to send our men and women into harm’s way.”

    In an interview on MSNBC, Rangel said the draft should be reinstated because the majority of Americans make “no real sacrifice” when the country goes to war.

    Of course, he’s really just interested in further diminishing the quality of our military. We have no need for a draft at this time, considering that we’re going to be cutting tens of thousands of positions as it is.


  54. 54 | February 15, 2013 1:08 pm

    @ Tanker:

    I love NASCAR too much. And Coors Light beer. And BBQ.


  55. 55 | February 15, 2013 1:08 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I just can’t believe that statement I am trying to make sense of it.


  56. waldensianspirit
    56 | February 15, 2013 1:08 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    condoms.

    Pity the poor bloke sitting there removing them with CGI


  57. 57 | February 15, 2013 1:09 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I’m sure she’ll be very fetching in a burq’a. In designer shades.


  58. 58 | February 15, 2013 1:09 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Rangel has been pushing the draft for years.


  59. 59 | February 15, 2013 1:10 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    The media is still talking about Rubio drinking water, but are silence on Menendez banging underage Dominican girls.


  60. 60 | February 15, 2013 1:10 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I would have pretty puppy take the call. Of course, Harry would STILL be conversing with an intellectual BETTER!


  61. waldensianspirit
    61 | February 15, 2013 1:11 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Rangel has been pushing the draft for years.

    I only agree with drafting politicians and their families


  62. lobo91
    62 | February 15, 2013 1:11 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Rangel has been pushing the draft for years.

    And he’s never gotten anywhere with it.


  63. Tanker
    63 | February 15, 2013 1:11 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    I love NASCAR too much. And Coors Light beer. And BBQ.

    Nothing like NASCAR, Carolina BBQ, I have my sister send it to me 10 lbs at a time! Don’t drink any longer, so in that regard I don’t redneckenize the Coors!


  64. lobo91
    64 | February 15, 2013 1:12 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    I would have pretty puppy take the call. Of course, Harry would STILL be conversing with an intellectual BETTER!

    I could probably teach her to answer the phone. The speakerphone button lights up when it rings.


  65. 65 | February 15, 2013 1:12 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Fultonchain did the same damn thing a couple weeks ago. Wants to disagree but then sets himself up as some kind of intellectual superior, coming here to educate those pitiful amongst us who have been corrupted by the evil right wing media and Darth Cheney.


  66. lobo91
    66 | February 15, 2013 1:14 pm

    House Democrats Predict End Of Skiing In Vermont Because Of Global Warming…

    I spent two weeks in Vermont taking a military course a couple of years ago.

    I don’t think there’s much danger of this happening.


  67. 67 | February 15, 2013 1:14 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I just can’t believe that statement I am trying to make sense of it.

    Did you catch:

    Is this really an encroachment on any freedom that matters?

    I missed that one the first time around; as CG said “chilling”.


  68. 68 | February 15, 2013 1:14 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Nope, he’s like a broken record with it.


  69. 69 | February 15, 2013 1:15 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Freedom that matters. Who determines that. That is a very scary thought process.


  70. 70 | February 15, 2013 1:16 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    In Fultonchain’s case I was sad by that. He’s usually a good Liberal to have a back and forth with. But he came in swinging.


  71. 71 | February 15, 2013 1:16 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I can agree to that since they love to send people to war.


  72. 72 | February 15, 2013 1:19 pm

    @ lobo91:

    At present, she still has a more useful skill set than Harry.
    By the way, did he ever offer any proof to quell those rumors that he’s a pederast?


  73. 73 | February 15, 2013 1:20 pm

    @ Rodan:

    I believe I said that very thing that afternoon, that I was supremely disappointed by FC’s postings that day. And frankly, he deserved every bit of ass-kicking that he got.


  74. 74 | February 15, 2013 1:21 pm

    Forget BBQ (or whatever variety.) Gimme a good hot dog to grill (and no, I don’t mean to start up THAT war.) Love the BBQ, mind you, but sometimes nothing will do but a dog. Ate me somes just last week. And I’d like one right now…


  75. 75 | February 15, 2013 1:23 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    It is the typical Elitist attitude. They determine what freedoms matter, and if they don’t think it matters, then the State can trample it. As I said on that thread, Mussolini had a similar view of Liberty.


  76. 76 | February 15, 2013 1:27 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    They are Neo-Feudlaists.


  77. 77 | February 15, 2013 1:27 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    No war from me – I LOVE those 1/4-lb. hot dogs from Hebrew National. Or Miller’s.


  78. Tanker
    78 | February 15, 2013 1:29 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    Forget BBQ (or whatever variety.) Gimme a good hot dog to grill (and no, I don’t mean to start up THAT war.) Love the BBQ, mind you, but sometimes nothing will do but a dog. Ate me somes just last week. And I’d like one right now…

    No War here, love me some dogs too!


  79. 79 | February 15, 2013 1:35 pm

    I had actually planned to see “Lincoln” until Rush broadcast the screenwriter’s appearance on the Charlie Rose show.

    Reagan = evil
    Obama = saint

    Fuck you asshole.


  80. 80 | February 15, 2013 1:37 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    All hail our mighty god-king Obama!


  81. 81 | February 15, 2013 1:39 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Tony Kushner’s his name. Supposed to be smart.
    Apparently not, since he does live in realville.


  82. 82 | February 15, 2013 1:40 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    These Hollywood types are not very smart.


  83. eaglesoars
    83 | February 15, 2013 1:40 pm

    Rush just played a clip of Tony Kushner on Charlie Rose:

    “We have no hope of survival as a spieces if we continue with this psychotic individualism”

    Kushner wrote the screenplay for ‘Lincoln”


  84. 84 | February 15, 2013 1:40 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Individualism is why Humanity has advanced as a species. He’s an outright Communist.


  85. 85 | February 15, 2013 1:43 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    The Kushner jerk is insufferable. Had he put forth this interview BEFORE the movie opened, it would have died at the box office. He’s the biggest, most ignorant jerk I’ve ever seen, complete with Gay person’s hatred of everything Republican. Which is why he wrote Angels in America.


  86. buzzsawmonkey
    86 | February 15, 2013 1:44 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Tony Kushner

    Tony Kushner is an anti-Jewish Jew and a gay-liberation fanatic. The latter means that he is a “human-rights” activist opposed to the principles of the Constitution.


  87. 87 | February 15, 2013 1:45 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    He’s a Marxist.


  88. 88 | February 15, 2013 1:45 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Don’t know how often you check it, but I dropped you an email on something you might like to look at this weekend.


  89. buzzsawmonkey
    89 | February 15, 2013 1:46 pm

    MacDuff wrote:

    Did you catch:

    Is this really an encroachment on any freedom that matters?

    As I have said before, as soon as a Leftist starts talking about “need,” you’re in trouble.


  90. eaglesoars
    90 | February 15, 2013 1:47 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ Carolina Girl:
    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yeah, but he’s also hilarious. I’d love to take him on.

    NOT a fair fight but certainly would be fun!


  91. 91 | February 15, 2013 1:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    He’s a Marxist.

    Oh, that ith THO Ghey!

    /Барни_Франк


  92. buzzsawmonkey
    92 | February 15, 2013 1:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    He’s a Marxist.

    Same shit, different garments.


  93. 93 | February 15, 2013 1:48 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    The latter means that he is a “human-rights” activist opposed to the principles of the Constitution.

    Ah yes, one of those one dimensional, knuckle dragging anti-intellectuals.


  94. 94 | February 15, 2013 1:49 pm

    @ MacDuff:

    Just read it, Thanks for that! I am very interested!


  95. 95 | February 15, 2013 1:49 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Yup!


  96. Guggi
    96 | February 15, 2013 1:49 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Guggi wrote:
    What’s wrong with it ?
    We can start with “what’s wrong with it” by looking at the corruption and decay which permits pornography to operate as an open and legitimate industry.
    We can then point out that if the porno industry is indeed a “legitimate industry,” mandating condoms on the dicks of its fuckboys kind of destroys the product that this “legitimate industry” is selling.
    In a bizarre way, the above actually shows the Obama Economy—dickhead style—by legitimating an illegitimate industry and then regulating it to death.

    You argue against the porno-industry itself but you don’t have an argument against wearing condoms since in most productions it has already become a matter of course.

    What’s wrong with pornography?


  97. 97 | February 15, 2013 1:51 pm

    Later, peeps. I’ve tarried far too long and I must scurry on to my appointed rounds so as not to antagonize my chosen female of the species. She’s most unpleasant when antagonized.


  98. buzzsawmonkey
    98 | February 15, 2013 1:51 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    What’s wrong with pornography?

    Aside from the fact that it debases the sex act, debases the people who engage in sex acts for hire, debases the people who view them, and is an indicator of the debasement of the society that permits it to flourish openly?

    Nothing at all.


  99. 99 | February 15, 2013 1:53 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    I’d love to see you take him on, too.
    He’s too much a coward to go on with someone like Levin.
    William F. Buckley would have turned him into hamburger.


  100. 100 | February 15, 2013 1:54 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    If people do not like porn, do not watch it. Problem solved.


  101. lobo91
    101 | February 15, 2013 1:59 pm

    Taxpayers Fund Study To Discredit Tea Party As Creation Of Big Tobacco…

    Why am I not surprised…


  102. buzzsawmonkey
    102 | February 15, 2013 2:00 pm

    IIRC, Kushner’s “Angels in America” spent a lot of time sneering at Roy Cohn for refusing to admit he was homosexual even as he was dying of AIDS. Yet, in a sense, Kushner accepted Cohn’s self-definition, in the same inverted/perverted way that militant blacks do with regard to, say, Justice Clarence Thomas.

    Kushner is saying to Cohn; “You think you’re special, but you’re dying of AIDS anyway, just like the rest of us faggots!” The militants say to Thomas, “You think you is special, but you jes’ a n*gger like us!” What neither Kushner, nor the black militants, recognize is that Cohn, and Thomas, are saying to their respective detractors, “No. I am not like you. I am not bounded by the limits you have placed on yourselves, even if I am sometimes constrained by the same limits which constrain you. I have decided that I can do more and be more despite those limits, and I do not, therefore, make common cause with you, who have decided to make those limits the determination of your lives.”


  103. buzzsawmonkey
    103 | February 15, 2013 2:03 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Taxpayers Fund Study To Discredit Tea Party As Creation Of Big Tobacco…

    If they’re dissing “Big Tobacco” they are spitting in the face of the proud Native American heritage.


  104. 104 | February 15, 2013 2:07 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Charles harped on this a few days ago.

    He feels vindicated because for years he claimed tha Big Tobacco was behind some plot involving the Tea Party, Fox News, Glenn Beck and other people/organizations.


  105. heysoos
    105 | February 15, 2013 2:25 pm

    the end is near


  106. eaglesoars
    106 | February 15, 2013 2:27 pm

    Hey! We missed the end of the world!

    Damn. That means April 15 really IS going to arrive.


  107. 107 | February 15, 2013 2:30 pm

    Well, what I meant by “war” was the perpetual war over which hot dogs are best. Nathan’s are good, as are Hebrew National. But once in your life, try Niman’s Ranch hot dogs. Expensive as hell. But if the gods on Olympus ate hot dogs, these are the ones they ate. Huge, fat, juicy and mondo tasty.


  108. 108 | February 15, 2013 2:32 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Stanton Glantz, the asshole who did the study is a rabid anti-smoking dick who has no credibility. So of court, Cheetos boy, not doing his research, thinks Glantz came to the correct conclusion.


  109. 109 | February 15, 2013 2:34 pm

    Mind you, when I was transiting the Miami airport lately, I passed up all the fancy food places and got me a Nathan’s hot dog. And damned good they were, too. Brown mustard and diced onions here. Duck into the AA lounge across the floor for beers afterwards. Or before. Or both. After 6 weeks in the Third World, a decent hot dog seems more appealing than all that froo-froo food.


  110. 110 | February 15, 2013 2:38 pm

    New Thread.


  111. heysoos
    111 | February 15, 2013 2:40 pm

    a grilled Nathan’s, some chili (no beans), a few pieces of sweet onion and a squirt of mustard…mighty tasty fare


  112. Guggi
    112 | February 15, 2013 2:50 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Aside from the fact that it debases the sex act, debases the people who engage in sex acts for hire, debases the people who view them, and is an indicator of the debasement of the society that permits it to flourish openly?

    Aside from the fact that the sex act itself is an act of reproduction and not necessarely an act of love and as long as no one is forced to work in said industry or forced to watch their products I can’t see how this can debase anyone.

    Pornography has been around since we know about human culture, nothing new.


  113. buzzsawmonkey
    113 | February 15, 2013 3:07 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Aside from the fact that the sex act itself is an act of reproduction

    Not in porn it ain’t. Particularly not with a condom.

    You were saying….?


  114. buzzsawmonkey
    114 | February 15, 2013 3:11 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    Pornography has been around since we know about human culture, nothing new.

    Yes, pornography has been around since we knew about human culture. How we regard it is a determination of our own culture.

    Can you understand that? Try; do. If you regard what used to be called “the act of love” as a merely mechanical reproductive procedure, then denigrate the reproductive procedure to exalt the mere pleasure of the act, you are looking at a depraved society.


  115. 115 | February 15, 2013 3:37 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    I’m still laughing over what happened in the last thread. Opposing a Nanny state makes somebody a Paranoid Reactionary Redneck!
    Moe Katz is an asshole.

    What exactly is wrong with being a paranoid reactionary redneck?

    You aren’t paranoid if somebody (such as death panels or jihadis) really does want to kill you!


  116. 116 | February 15, 2013 3:38 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Guggi wrote:
    Pornography has been around since we know about human culture, nothing new.
    Yes, pornography has been around since we knew about human culture. How we regard it is a determination of our own culture.
    Can you understand that? Try; do. If you regard what used to be called “the act of love” as a merely mechanical reproductive procedure, then denigrate the reproductive procedure to exalt the mere pleasure of the act, you are looking at a depraved society.

    I agree with you on that.

    The public acceptance of debauchery that began in the late 1960s has contributed to the breakdown of family life and of society in general.


  117. Guggi
    117 | February 15, 2013 4:28 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Yes, pornography has been around since we knew about human culture. How we regard it is a determination of our own culture.
    Can you understand that? Try; do. If you regard what used to be called “the act of love” as a merely mechanical reproductive procedure, then denigrate the reproductive procedure to exalt the mere pleasure of the act, you are looking at a depraved society.

    Sexuality is a drive to make reproduction possible. Without this drive we wouldn’t reproduce. This doesn’t say that every sex act has to be a (successful) act of reproduction. If humans need some support to fire their drive, what’s wrong with this ? Do you really believe that a sex act of a married couple after twenty years of marriage is an act of love or merely an act for relaxation of the drive ?


  118. Guggi
    118 | February 15, 2013 4:43 pm

    It worries me more that 70 percent of the French youth have never spoken with their parents about sexuality and I doubt that France is the exception but the rule.


  119. buzzsawmonkey
    119 | February 15, 2013 5:43 pm

    Saw him as Obama’s chief of staff
    Dog doo Rahm Rahm Rahm dog doo Rahm Rahm
    He wants to be President? It is to laugh
    Dog doo Rahm Rahm Rahm dog doo Rahm Rahm
    Yes, he was once chief of staff
    As President it is to laugh
    Yes, we have to send him home
    Dog doo Rahm Rahm Rahm dog doo Rahm Rahm…


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