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The Radical Abortion agenda of Andrew Cuomo

by Rodan ( 182 Comments › )
Filed under Democratic Party, Fascism, Liberal Fascism, Progressives, Tranzis at February 20th, 2013 - 3:07 pm

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One of the scariest politicians in America today is NY Governor Andrew Cuomo.  He supports gun confiscations and the anger in his speeches would put Il Duce to shame. He started out as a Conservative Democrat, taking on the Public Sector Unions and balancing the budgets. After the 2012 election, Cuomo has interpreted that as a mandate for Progressive governance, he has gone Hard Left.

Andrew Cuomo’s newest initiative is removing any restrictions on abortion. He wants to get rid of adoption alternatives and make all abortions paid for with tax dollars.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo seeks to impose a radical new abortion regime on the state, one that goes far beyond the euphemistic byword “choice.” The bill would in fact limit many choices, for instance the choice of Catholic hospitals and other institutions with moral objections to decline to allow abortions to be performed in their facilities. It would limit the choices of organizations that counsel pregnant women if their counseling were held to be insufficiently enthusiastic about abortion. It would limit the choices of organizations that seek to help women in crisis without involving themselves in the politics of abortion.

The anodyne-sounding “Reproductive Health Act” is a very bad proposal indeed. Where it regulates, it regulates the wrong parties in the wrong way. But it also deregulates with equal disregard: It would among other things allow persons other than physicians to perform abortions.

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Governor Cuomo’s bill is not about easing access to abortion — those bloody skids already are well-greased. The issue is political domination. The abortion party does not brook resistance, and it steadfastly seeks to ensure that everybody has a hand in its grisly business: taxpayers, employers, priests. All must be implicated. If a religious hospital declines to provide abortions, then it must be forced to do so. If a counseling center treats adoption as preferable to abortion, it will either change its mind or have its mind changed for it by the gentle persuasion of the State of New York.

Like the abortion provisions in the Patient Protection Act, Governor Cuomo’s proposal is a gross assault on individual liberties. The free exercise of religion requires that institutions not be forced to violate their precepts and their consciences; freedom of speech means that counseling services must be free to express their views, regardless of whether those views are welcome in Albany. Even those who support the right to abortion ought to be able to appreciate that “choice” also applies to those who do not wish to provide abortions, to house abortionists, or to finance them.

As someone who believes Social Issues should be determined at the State Level, I have no beef with NY doing abortion on demand. I live in Florida and would oppose any type of law of this nature here, but this is bigger than NY. Andrew Cuomo is one of the names mentioned for the Democrat nod in 2016. This is why he is taking Hard left on social issues. because he is NY Governor, this gives him access to the media, many of whom are based in NYC. They will hype Andrew Cuomo and he could very well get the Democrat nomination.

Some may say that Cuomo would have no chance at the Democratic nomination in 2016. I disagree with that analysis. He’s based in a big media market that has national influence. Although Cuomo is White, he’s Sicilian and not Anglo. This  would allow him to play up his ethnic heritage and play the minority role. He’s hard left on social issues, which would rally the media and entertainment industry to him.

The factors I listed above would make Andrew Cuomo formidable for the Democrat nomination. Once he gets the Democratic Nod, he would be the odds on favorite as any Democrat would be for the general election. That is what is at work behind this abortion law and why it merits national attention. Cuomo is a Fascist and would be a danger to this nation as President.

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182 Responses to “The Radical Abortion agenda of Andrew Cuomo”
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  1. 1 | February 20, 2013 3:23 pm

    Andrew Cuomo is scary.


  2. Tanker
    2 | February 20, 2013 3:24 pm

    Posts like this really causes confusion for many like myself. Although I understand the national implications of the post and I also understand the states right issues, too many times people like myself have been told that it is an issue that needs to be off the table! It’s Law and I agree that the Law isn’t going to be changed.

    My sole issue on abortion at that point is that my money shouldn’t ever be used to pay for them. If NY wants it this way, then so be it, just make sure no federal dollars are used for their abortions, is that really too much to be asked?


  3. buzzsawmonkey
    3 | February 20, 2013 3:27 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Andrew Cuomo is scary.

    I think “insane” is the word you are looking for. “Power-mad” also springs to mind.


  4. 4 | February 20, 2013 3:28 pm

    @ Tanker:

    Cuomo is using this issue to gain traction for the 2016 Dem nod.


  5. 5 | February 20, 2013 3:29 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    His speech on Gun Control was very Mussolini like.


  6. 6 | February 20, 2013 3:30 pm

    I wish this loser would go away.

    Report: Mitt Romney to speak at CPAC 2013

    Watch Fox News hire him.


  7. heysoos
    7 | February 20, 2013 3:31 pm

    unrestricted abortion payed for with federal taxes will not fly…not in a million years


  8. BatGuano
    8 | February 20, 2013 3:32 pm

    Chris Christie will support him.After all, they were both raised by Sicilian mothers.


  9. Tanker
    9 | February 20, 2013 3:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    Cuomo is using this issue to gain traction for the 2016 Dem nod.

    And this issue is used to hammer conservatives (the elusive base) over the head with daily. I have to learn, there are issues I need to not comment on!


  10. 10 | February 20, 2013 3:32 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Youtube his Gun Control speech. It’s very scary.


  11. buzzsawmonkey
    11 | February 20, 2013 3:33 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    Chris Christie will support him.After all, they were both raised by Sicilian mothers.

    Sicilian?

    You’re breaking my heart. You’re shaking my confidence, daily…


  12. 12 | February 20, 2013 3:34 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    Chris Christie will support him.After all, they were both raised by Sicilian mothers.

    Christie said he agrees with him on 98% of the issues.


  13. Tanker
    13 | February 20, 2013 3:34 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    Chris Christie will support him.After all, they were both raised by Sicilian mothers.

    And he has stated he “Christie” agrees with Cuomo 98% of the time!


  14. BatGuano
    14 | February 20, 2013 3:36 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    Chris Christie will support him.After all, they were both raised by Sicilian mothers.
    Sicilian?
    You’re breaking my heart. You’re shaking my confidence, daily…

    I said Sicilian not Cecilia!


  15. buzzsawmonkey
    15 | February 20, 2013 3:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Youtube his Gun Control speech. It’s very scary.

    Then read this essay.


  16. lobo91
    16 | February 20, 2013 3:36 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    Cuomo is using this issue to gain traction for the 2016 Dem nod.

    I can’t see anyone using a gun control platform as radical as his to gain national office.

    Yes, he’ll have the backing of the MSM and Hollywood, but 2/3 of the country opposes his position. And unlike abortion, which is a hypothetical for most people, gun control is not.


  17. BatGuano
    17 | February 20, 2013 3:37 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    Chris Christie will support him.After all, they were both raised by Sicilian mothers.

    Christie said he agrees with him on 98% of the issues.

    He denies it, but what the hell.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/19/chris-christie-i-agree-with-andrew-cuomo-on-probably-98-of-the-issues/


  18. lobo91
    18 | February 20, 2013 3:38 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    unrestricted abortion payed for with federal taxes will not fly…not in a million years

    It’s been happening for years as it is.

    The abortion lobby just gets its allies in the media to keep it quiet.


  19. 19 | February 20, 2013 3:39 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I hope you are right. Cuomo is scary. When I saw his Gun speech, it really frightened me.


  20. lobo91
    20 | February 20, 2013 3:40 pm

    @ BatGuano:

    Obama has already set a precedent for left-wing politicians to simply deny having said things even when confronted with videotape evidence.


  21. Buffalobob
    21 | February 20, 2013 3:40 pm

    Marxist, Fascist, “what does it mater”?


  22. lobo91
    22 | February 20, 2013 3:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I hope you are right. Cuomo is scary. When I saw his Gun speech, it really frightened me.

    Cuomo is to the left of Obama and Feinstein’s current position, which is opposed by something like 68% of the country.

    I can’t see it getting him anywhere.

    If they want to turn the 2016 election into a referendum on the Second Amendment, let them. We might actually have a chance of winning that one, rather than who can pass out the most free stuff.


  23. 23 | February 20, 2013 3:42 pm

    @ Rodan:

    If the Republicans run competant opposition, Cuomo is unelectible. He i stoo far out of the main stream of American political thought to have a chance. But Obama was likewaise outside of the mainstream of political thought, and he won two elections because the GOP declined to field competant opposition for him. One thing Cuomo has going against him is that he’s white. That’s going to hurt him in a head-to-head matchup with any of the minority heavy hitters in the Donk Party.


  24. BatGuano
    24 | February 20, 2013 3:44 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ BatGuano:
    Obama has already set a precedent for left-wing politicians to simply deny having said things even when confronted with videotape evidence.

    Another example of how how Obama has damaged this country. He has not only lowered the bar he has put it on the ground.


  25. Bumr50
    25 | February 20, 2013 3:45 pm

    Cuomo is a tool.

    Like Soetoro.

    OT -- I wish the laundromat had a beer machine.


  26. 26 | February 20, 2013 3:45 pm

    @ lobo91:

    All the money that goes to Planned Parenthood effectively pays for abortions. Money is fungible. Even if they technically use the money for other things, it is freeing up cash to pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood is Big Abortion. And they make plenty of money assuring that more black babies aren’t born into this world. Just like Margaret Sanger wanted.


  27. lobo91
    27 | February 20, 2013 3:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    All the money that goes to Planned Parenthood effectively pays for abortions. Money is fungible. Even if they technically use the money for other things, it is freeing up cash to pay for abortions.

    Exactly.

    And they get a lot of tax dollars. Not just from the feds, but most states, as well.


  28. 28 | February 20, 2013 3:48 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    One thing Cuomo has going against him is that he’s white. That’s going to hurt him in a head-to-head matchup with any of the minority heavy hitters in the Donk Party.

    He can play the Sicilian card and claim to be an ethnic minority. Remember this term: “Mediterranean-American.” That could be his way of getting around the White part. :lol:

    That said, Cuomo is really a scary guy. When I saw his anti gun rant where he said you don’t need 10 bullets to kill a dear, I was scared as hell. The anger in his speech makes Mussolini’s speeches look like they were about love.

    This man scares me.


  29. Tanker
    29 | February 20, 2013 3:48 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    All the money that goes to Planned Parenthood effectively pays for abortions. Money is fungible. Even if they technically use the money for other things, it is freeing up cash to pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood is Big Abortion. And they make plenty of money assuring that more black babies aren’t born into this world. Just like Margaret Sanger wanted.

    Don’t you wonder if the Black community will ever figure this out.


  30. 30 | February 20, 2013 3:49 pm

    @ lobo91:

    If they want to turn the 2016 election into a referendum on the Second Amendment, let them.

    I hope they do, because it would be a sure win for any competent Republican. Their heads are gassed and they feel invincible, so you never know.


  31. lobo91
    31 | February 20, 2013 3:54 pm

    Fox News Liberal Bob Beckel On Why Female Students Don’t Need A Gun: “When Was The Last Time You Heard About A Rape On Campus?”…

    Stupid on multiple levels.

    First, it goes back to what I said yesterday about crime on college campuses being deliberately underreported, despite a federal law requiring it.

    Second, rape isn’t the only crime women have to worry about.

    Finally, most colleges actually allow female students to leave the campus at will. If they live on campus, though, or go someplace directly after leaving class, they still have to be unarmed, because some bureacrats decided that they can’t have a gun.

    Good thing nothing ever happens to female college students, though. Greta Van Sustern probably makes up all those cases she covers on her show.


  32. lobo91
    32 | February 20, 2013 3:56 pm

    @ Tanker:

    Don’t you wonder if the Black community will ever figure this out.

    They haven’t yet. And we have a public school system that pretty much guarantees that most of them never will.


  33. Da_Beerfreak
    33 | February 20, 2013 3:56 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Posts like this really causes confusion for many like myself. Although I understand the national implications of the post and I also understand the states right issues, too many times people like myself have been told that it is an issue that needs to be off the table! It’s Law and I agree that the Law isn’t going to be changed.

    My sole issue on abortion at that point is that my money shouldn’t ever be used to pay for them. If NY wants it this way, then so be it, just make sure no federal dollars are used for their abortions, is that really too much to be asked?

    (emphases added)
    Hell yes it’s too much too ask of a D’Rat who wants to destroy Federalism and create a monster ‘one size fits all’ National Government to run a single united state from DC Town.
    The States are our last firewall protecting the People from the over reaches of the national government in DC Town. And the D’Rats hate that.


  34. BatGuano
    34 | February 20, 2013 3:56 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    All the money that goes to Planned Parenthood effectively pays for abortions. Money is fungible. Even if they technically use the money for other things, it is freeing up cash to pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood is Big Abortion. And they make plenty of money assuring that more black babies aren’t born into this world. Just like Margaret Sanger wanted.

    Don’t you wonder if the Black community will ever figure this out.

    It will never figure it out, unless a Democrat figure emerges with the welfare of that community in mind. It is unlikely because the dems want to keep poor, uneducated blacks poor and uneducated. As long as they vote democrat. Which they will.


  35. heysoos
    35 | February 20, 2013 3:57 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I instantly reject any dialog that begins with, “how many, what size, who needs”


  36. 36 | February 20, 2013 4:02 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Even the State Firewall is crumbling.

    Republicans are losing the battle against big government in state capitals now, too.


  37. buzzsawmonkey
    37 | February 20, 2013 4:09 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    He can play the Sicilian card and claim to be an ethnic minority.

    Make that “So-Silly Yawn.”


  38. lobo91
    38 | February 20, 2013 4:10 pm

    For those who thought that Kerry would be a disaster as Secretary of State, he hasn’t disappointed:

    John Kerry: Congressional Republicans Greater Threat To U.S. Foreign Policy Than China, Middle East…

    Secretary of State John Kerry says the greatest challenge to U.S. foreign policy is not emerging China or Middle East instability. It’s Congress.

    In a speech Wednesday at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville, Kerry cited the adage that “we can’t be strong in the world unless we are strong at home.” He called the budget impasse a threat.

    The State Department has said automatic spending cuts would jeopardize $2.6 billion in aid, security assistance and other international programs.

    Kerry said legislators need to avoid “senseless cuts.”

    Otherwise, he said his credibility as a diplomat might be damaged.

    Kerry said, “Think about it: It’s hard to tell the leadership of any number of countries that they must resolve their economic issues if we don’t resolve our own.”

    So, by trying to slow the rampant growth of spending that we’ll never be able to pay back, Republicans are sending the wrong message to other countries that are in similar situations?


  39. Da_Beerfreak
    39 | February 20, 2013 4:10 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Even the State Firewall is crumbling.

    Republicans are losing the battle against big government in state capitals now, too.

    There will be no help coming from the Blue States since they have sold their souls to DC Town for a few pieces of silver.


  40. Da_Beerfreak
    40 | February 20, 2013 4:14 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Has the Russian FM returned Sec. of Ketchup Kerry’s call yet??

    Didn’t think so…


  41. BatGuano
    41 | February 20, 2013 4:14 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    He can play the Sicilian card and claim to be an ethnic minority.
    Make that “So-Silly Yawn.”

    Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest…


  42. lobo91
    42 | February 20, 2013 4:15 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Has the Russian FM returned Sec. of Ketchup Kerry’s call yet??
    Didn’t think so…

    Actually, yes, he did. On Sunday, which was 7 days after he called.


  43. lobo91
    43 | February 20, 2013 4:18 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I guess Kerry doesn’t have to worry about being taken seriously as a diplomat, regardless of what happens with our budget.

    The Russians already showed what they think of him.


  44. citizen_q
    44 | February 20, 2013 4:19 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I see your jacka$$, and raise you one schmuck

    New York Sen. Chuck Schumer said Wednesday that Chuck Hagel “almost had tears in his eyes” as he explained to the former Nebraska senator that the expression “Jewish lobby” is rooted in a negative depiction of Jews.

    “Look, I had doubts about Sen. Hagel when his name was first floated, and I expressed those publicly on ‘Meet The Press’ and other places,” Schumer said. “And the president called me and said, ‘Before you come out with any decision, please sit down and talk to him.’ That was only fair.”

    Schumer said he spent 90 minutes asking Hagel questions — including about a “nuclear Iran” — and “he answered them very well.”

    “He struck me as sincere, and you know, you have to be sitting there at the meeting obviously, but I also told him when he used the word Jewish lobby what it meant to Jewish people,” he added.

    “And I told him what a double standard is. That Jewish people throughout the centuries have suffered a double standard. Everyone could be a farmer except Jewish people. Everyone could live in Moscow except Jewish people. I said when everyone else can lobby but all of a sudden when those of us who are pro-Israel lobby, it’s a negative, that’s a double standard. And I’m sure you didn’t mean it, but it harkens to the old days.


  45. Da_Beerfreak
    45 | February 20, 2013 4:19 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Has the Russian FM returned Sec. of Ketchup Kerry’s call yet??
    Didn’t think so…

    Actually, yes, he did. On Sunday, which was 7 days after he called.

    That’s what I get for trying to be snarky… :oops:


  46. buzzsawmonkey
    46 | February 20, 2013 4:21 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    New York Sen. Chuck Schumer said Wednesday that Chuck Hagel “almost had tears in his eyes” as he explained to the former Nebraska senator that the expression “Jewish lobby” is rooted in a negative depiction of Jews.

    Crocodiles cry, too.

    And while Hagel “almost” had tears in his eyes, he had genuine—not “almost”—cash in his pockets from friends of Iran and Hezbollah.


  47. 47 | February 20, 2013 4:24 pm

    @ lobo91:

    When I wonder will Kerry be making a speech about the hacking and stealing of America’s trade secrets, military information and personal information by the Chinese?

    I’m thinking …. oh, never.


  48. citizen_q
    48 | February 20, 2013 4:26 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Didn’t the Chinese give hillary essentially the same treatment?

    Luv how our elitist leaders are so eager to step on their constituents, yet so meekly accept such shoddy treatment.


  49. 49 | February 20, 2013 4:26 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Oh and it turns out that story by Ben Shapiro WAS true about Hagel getting money from Hamas. My, my, my, looks like Jazzy Ponytail backed the wrong horse AGAIN.


  50. citizen_q
    50 | February 20, 2013 4:28 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    Also from some group called friends of hamm-a$$, or so I’ve heard.


  51. 51 | February 20, 2013 4:34 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Some Red States are doing so as well.


  52. 52 | February 20, 2013 4:34 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That main is a joke.


  53. yenta-fada
    53 | February 20, 2013 4:39 pm

    OT. Gold and silver are truly getting into a buy range for those with any savings left after the FED again tells us there’s been no inflation.


  54. Da_Beerfreak
    54 | February 20, 2013 4:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Some Red States are doing so as well.

    There’s no doubt that too many States are doing it and in the long run if not stopped will lead to the complete destruction of Federalism in a few more years. That’s exactly what the D’Rats want.


  55. 55 | February 20, 2013 4:41 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Just ignore food costs and its all gravy!

    :lol:


  56. lobo91
    56 | February 20, 2013 4:44 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Just ignore food costs and its all gravy!

    And energy


  57. yenta-fada
    57 | February 20, 2013 4:44 pm

    Also OT. A cautionary lol regarding the perils of bilingualism.


  58. yenta-fada
    59 | February 20, 2013 4:45 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Just ignore food costs and its all gravy!

    They stripped out food and energy from the Consumer Price Index at least 20 years ago. It’s almost like it was planned….


  59. 60 | February 20, 2013 4:47 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Of course it was. Can’t tell people the truth.


  60. 61 | February 20, 2013 4:49 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Print 80 billion a month and the result is higher fuel costs.


  61. citizen_q
    62 | February 20, 2013 4:50 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    @ Rodan:

    Same kind of sophistry is used reporting unemployment.


  62. yenta-fada
    63 | February 20, 2013 4:50 pm

    @ Guggi:

    How are things in Austria?


  63. yenta-fada
    64 | February 20, 2013 4:51 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    @ Rodan:
    Same kind of sophistry is used reporting unemployment.

    That’s a fancy word for bullshit. :-)


  64. citizen_q
    65 | February 20, 2013 4:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Print 80 billion a month and the result is higher fuel costs.

    Not to mention burning food for fuel raising food prices.


  65. 66 | February 20, 2013 4:52 pm

    @ Rodan:

    My son works in a “bargain” grocery. I shop at the higher end (sorry, my bigoted Southern head is fed up dealing with the EBT crowd who let their brats run around the store like it’s playground).

    In the past, his store was not all that crowded, except for the EBT crowd. Now, he tell me that they’re busy all hours of the day and when I go shopping at my store, it’s not nearly as busy. More importantly, he says they’ve started getting higher numbers of the “after work” crowd (his store is one block from the transit commute hub), where they used to take the time to go to Raley’s over the overpass.


  66. 67 | February 20, 2013 4:52 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Yup Corn ethanol is just stupid.


  67. yenta-fada
    68 | February 20, 2013 4:53 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Print 80 billion a month and the result is higher fuel costs.

    That 80 billion goes right into derivatives. There’s no effect whatsoever on the economy. It doesn’t even support the banking system. It just keeps the banks at the roulette tables.


  68. lobo91
    69 | February 20, 2013 4:54 pm

    Here are some of the headlines from a military newsletter I receive:

    Odierno: Army Stands to Lose 200,000 Soldiers
    DoD to Furlough 800,000
    Cuts Put Army’s Force Structure Changes at Risk
    Army Planning Paralyzed by Sequestration Threat
    Sequestration Threatens Fatigued Helicopter Fleet

    But hey, it’s not all bad:

    Military Burial for Same-Sex Spouse
    Panetta: Hillary Clinton Inspired Women in Combat


  69. citizen_q
    70 | February 20, 2013 4:55 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    true, I’m always trying to live down my Southern MD public school education. /


  70. yenta-fada
    71 | February 20, 2013 4:56 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    The fact that even Wallmart’s latest earnings report was down shows you that people are not able to buy the basics.


  71. yenta-fada
    73 | February 20, 2013 4:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Here are some of the headlines from a military newsletter I receive:
    Odierno: Army Stands to Lose 200,000 Soldiers
    DoD to Furlough 800,000
    Cuts Put Army’s Force Structure Changes at Risk
    Army Planning Paralyzed by Sequestration Threat
    Sequestration Threatens Fatigued Helicopter Fleet
    But hey, it’s not all bad:

    Military Burial for Same-Sex Spouse
    Panetta: Hillary Clinton Inspired Women in Combat

    It is no accident that they have first gone after the Military. It is so disturbing.


  72. lobo91
    74 | February 20, 2013 4:58 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Carolina Girl:
    The fact that even Wallmart’s latest earnings report was down shows you that people are not able to buy the basics.

    Obviously, the answer is to give WalMart employees a big raise.


  73. citizen_q
    75 | February 20, 2013 4:59 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Another one who’s never held an honest job in her life who will get rich telling us how to live our lives.


  74. lobo91
    76 | February 20, 2013 5:01 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    It is no accident that they have first gone after the Military. It is so disturbing.

    They’re going after all of the bastions of traditional society.

    Can’t “fundamentally transform” America without tearing down the existing society, after all.


  75. yenta-fada
    77 | February 20, 2013 5:02 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Another one who’s never held an honest job in her life who will get rich telling us how to live our lives.

    Blame the Republicans.

    http://rumfordmeteor.com/?p=9518


  76. lobo91
    78 | February 20, 2013 5:04 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    LOL

    Sadly, if you send that to MSNBC, they’ll probably run it as a real story.


  77. yenta-fada
    79 | February 20, 2013 5:05 pm

    Here’s another one that’s not mine:

    “Participating in a gun buy back program because you believe that the criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you believe that the neighbors have too many kids.”


  78. yenta-fada
    80 | February 20, 2013 5:10 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    LOL
    Sadly, if you send that to MSNBC, they’ll probably run it as a real story.

    We can always hope that they would.


  79. 81 | February 20, 2013 5:12 pm

    @ lobo91:

    There are moments I could kill Rush for calling her a slut. Not that she didn’t deserve it, but now we can’t get rid of her. She still believes she has a place on the national stage.

    Meanwhile, she couldn’t even wrangle 20 people to a personal appearance in Nevada. In a parking lot. And I think 10 of those in attendance were shoppers who wandered over to see if there were free samples being given out.


  80. 82 | February 20, 2013 5:12 pm

    Some good news!

    Al-Qaeda ambushes Hizb’Allah patrol in South Lebanon

    :lol:


  81. 83 | February 20, 2013 5:13 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Trying to make it sound like it BOTHERS them they’re having to cut the military is nothing more than salesmanship.


  82. lobo91
    84 | February 20, 2013 5:14 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And I think 10 of those in attendance were shoppers who wandered over to see if there were free samples being given out.

    Who would want a free sample of her?
    //


  83. heysoos
    85 | February 20, 2013 5:15 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Some good news!
    Al-Qaeda ambushes Hizb’Allah patrol in South Lebanon

    moar!


  84. lobo91
    86 | February 20, 2013 5:16 pm

    Report: Pant Suits To Charge $200,000 Per Speech…

    Hillary Clinton has wasted no time cashing in on the lecture circuit as it was revealed today that she will be charging $200,000 per speech.

    The massive fee means that she will be making more from a two-hour lecture than she did in a year as Secretary of State.

    I didn’t want to watch her on TV for free. Why would I pay to hear her?


  85. lobo91
    87 | February 20, 2013 5:17 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Trying to make it sound like it BOTHERS them they’re having to cut the military is nothing more than salesmanship.

    And of course showing video of Obama promising to do just that back in 2008 would be racist.


  86. Da_Beerfreak
    88 | February 20, 2013 5:22 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    There are moments I could kill Rush for calling her a slut. Not that she didn’t deserve it, but now we can’t get rid of her. She still believes she has a place on the national stage.

    Meanwhile, she couldn’t even wrangle 20 people to a personal appearance in Nevada. In a parking lot. And I think 10 of those in attendance were shoppers who wandered over to see if there were free samples being given out.

    The D’Rats needed a replacement for Cindy Sheehan; now they have one. :evil:


  87. BatGuano
    89 | February 20, 2013 5:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Some good news!
    Al-Qaeda ambushes Hizb’Allah patrol in South Lebanon

    Serves the bastards right! Faster, please.


  88. 90 | February 20, 2013 5:24 pm

    @ BatGuano:

    I hate both of them. I hope they do suicide bombings against each other.


  89. citizen_q
    91 | February 20, 2013 5:25 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Here’s another one that’s not mine:
    “Participating in a gun buy back program because you believe that the criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you believe that the neighbors have too many kids.”

    In MD they were not supposed to track or have such a database, but during the Beltway Sniper attacks, the police were going to gun owner’s homes asking for their ARs. The information on who had a regulated firearm is not supposed to be retained after processing. Not sure if they went to individual FFLs to get that info. From the discussions I have seen on the subject, I don’t think they did.

    Anyhow, when someone asks about my firearms instead of claiming losing them in a tragic boating accident, I am considering just saying I gave them all up at one of those no questions asked gun turn ins.


  90. lobo91
    92 | February 20, 2013 5:27 pm

    No, this is not from The Onion:

    Greek tragedy? Papandreou to lecture Ivy Leaguers on leading in crisis

    George Papandreou, the former Socialist prime minister who was at the helm when Greece’s economic ship smashed on the rocks of fiscal ruin, has landed a job at Columbia University teaching, of all things, how to govern financial crisis.

    The Ivy League school announced the move with great fanfare last month, calling Greece a “living laboratory” for key global public policy challenges. Papandreou, who led Greece from October 2009 through November 2011, is teaching a course on the European financial crisis and will host a lecture Wednesday on “Bailouts and Ballots: The New Challenges to Democracy and the Case of Europe.”


  91. citizen_q
    93 | February 20, 2013 5:28 pm

    @ lobo91:
    How many will be to oil ticks like her hubby? One could almost think quid pro quo. /


  92. lobo91
    94 | February 20, 2013 5:29 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Not sure if they went to individual FFLs to get that info. From the discussions I have seen on the subject, I don’t think they did.

    I can pretty much guarantee you that they didn’t. FFLs maintain their sale records in hard copy form, in a bound ledger.

    They’d still be looking today if they went to all of them and looked through their records.


  93. lobo91
    95 | February 20, 2013 5:30 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    How many will be to oil ticks like her hubby? One could almost think quid pro quo. /

    And the Chinese.


  94. citizen_q
    96 | February 20, 2013 5:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ BatGuano:
    I hate both of them. I hope they do suicide bombings against each other.

    Yep, let them keep doing as muslims do, murder as long as they keep it amongst themselves.


  95. Bumr50
    97 | February 20, 2013 5:40 pm

    My local news (NBC affiliate) is pushing Christie for 2016 already.

    We are being fed the sh*t sandwich again.


  96. 98 | February 20, 2013 5:43 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Yup and I know some here will disagree with me, but he could get the nomination. Rubio, Rand Paul and JIndal all can split the Conservative/Libertarian vote. Christie will go hard right on one issue to win part of the base over. Then in the general election, the Democrats will destroy Chris Christie.

    I have seen this movie before (2000 -- Bush,2008 -- McCain,2012 -- Romney)


  97. buzzsawmonkey
    99 | February 20, 2013 5:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Sandra Fluke Teams Up With Planned Parenthood To Push Obamacare Birth Control Mandate…

    Interesting…I’m listening to Patsy Cline singing “Love’s Litter’s in the Sandra” right now.


  98. lobo91
    100 | February 20, 2013 5:52 pm

    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…

    Boy, we really missed out by not having her as Secretary of State…
    //


  99. heysoos
    101 | February 20, 2013 5:54 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    My local news (NBC affiliate) is pushing Christie for 2016 already.
    We are being fed the sh*t sandwich again.

    the MSM is gonna get us all killed…they are the enemy of ALL the people


  100. heysoos
    102 | February 20, 2013 5:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…
    Boy, we really missed out by not having her as Secretary of State…
    //

    proof that image is more important than lives…I’d like to knock that bitch into next month


  101. Bumr50
    103 | February 20, 2013 5:56 pm

    @ Rodan:
    @ heysoos:

    The idea of a Christie nomination needs to be treated as a joke.

    It does us no good to have “serious” arguments as to why Christie is a bad nominee.

    That’s exactly what they want.


  102. citizen_q
    104 | February 20, 2013 5:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…

    Still pushing the party line after being played the chump?

    How are the demonrats not like organized crime? They must really take care of their soldiers as long as they remain loyal and follow orders.


  103. heysoos
    105 | February 20, 2013 6:01 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…

    Still pushing the party line after being played the chump?
    How are the demonrats not like organized crime? They must really take care of their soldiers as long as they remain loyal and follow orders.

    this is govt service, well paid for…
    I tell ya, something is gonna blow


  104. citizen_q
    106 | February 20, 2013 6:02 pm

    Be back later, good evening everyone.


  105. lobo91
    107 | February 20, 2013 6:03 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    How are the demonrats not like organized crime? They must really take care of their soldiers as long as they remain loyal and follow orders.

    There is no difference between the Chicago wing of the Democrats, who are currently running our government, and organized crime.


  106. heysoos
    108 | February 20, 2013 6:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    How are the demonrats not like organized crime? They must really take care of their soldiers as long as they remain loyal and follow orders.
    There is no difference between the Chicago wing of the Democrats, who are currently running our government, and organized crime.

    complete with a Don, underboss, capos and soldiers….it’s the exact same thing


  107. Da_Beerfreak
    109 | February 20, 2013 6:09 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Bumr50 wrote:

    My local news (NBC affiliate) is pushing Christie for 2016 already.
    We are being fed the sh*t sandwich again.

    the MSM is gonna get us all killed…they are the enemy of ALL the people

    The Fifth Column Treasonous Media is just the tip of the iceberg of Government indoctrination/propaganda operation being conducted against the free thinking People of America.


  108. BatGuano
    110 | February 20, 2013 6:11 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Sandra Fluke Teams Up With Planned Parenthood To Push Obamacare Birth Control Mandate…
    Interesting…I’m listening to Patsy Cline singing “Love’s Litter’s in the Sandra” right now.

    Are you sure that’s not ” Love letters in the sand” ? :)


  109. buzzsawmonkey
    111 | February 20, 2013 6:17 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    Are you sure that’s not ” Love letters in the sand” ?

    In this case, yes…


  110. heysoos
    112 | February 20, 2013 6:31 pm

    the donks have the media, entertainment, and public schools in their pocket…I’m beyond jaded


  111. lobo91
    113 | February 20, 2013 6:39 pm

    Nothing to see here…move along…

    Documents: Hagel Staffers Routinely Met With Front Group For Iranian Regime…

    Documents obtained by The Daily Caller show that staffers for then-Sen. Chuck Hagel met repeatedly with a controversial pro-Iran lobby group, and some met with the organization’s president.

    Hagel is President Barack Obama’s choice to be the next secretary of defense. Arizona Sen. John McCain and other Republicans have conceded that a vote — and likely confirmation — will take place during the week of Feb. 25.

    Iranian state-run media have referred to the National Iranian-American Council (NIAC) since at least 2006 as “Iran’s lobby” in the U.S.

    It portrays itself in the media as an independent group of Iranian expatriates. But Sam Nunberg, director of the Legal Project at the Middle East Forum project, describes the NIAC as an Iranian “front group.”


  112. brookly red
    114 | February 20, 2013 6:40 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    the donks have the media, entertainment, and public schools in their pocket…I’m beyond jaded

    well that sucks up to a point… but when the shit hits the fan they own it and there is nowhere to hide.


  113. brookly red
    115 | February 20, 2013 6:42 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Nothing to see here…move along…

    Documents: Hagel Staffers Routinely Met With Front Group For Iranian Regime…

    Documents obtained by The Daily Caller show that staffers for then-Sen. Chuck Hagel met repeatedly with a controversial pro-Iran lobby group, and some met with the organization’s president.

    Hagel is President Barack Obama’s choice to be the next secretary of defense. Arizona Sen. John McCain and other Republicans have conceded that a vote — and likely confirmation — will take place during the week of Feb. 25.

    Iranian state-run media have referred to the National Iranian-American Council (NIAC) since at least 2006 as “Iran’s lobby” in the U.S.

    It portrays itself in the media as an independent group of Iranian expatriates. But Sam Nunberg, director of the Legal Project at the Middle East Forum project, describes the NIAC as an Iranian “front group.”

    tell me again I forgot… Obama was raised in a what?


  114. coldwarrior
    116 | February 20, 2013 6:42 pm

    this many.


  115. The Osprey
    117 | February 20, 2013 6:47 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    OT. Gold and silver are truly getting into a buy range for those with any savings left after the FED again tells us there’s been no inflation.

    But copper, brass and lead have jumped in price…at least together. :twisted:


  116. brookly red
    118 | February 20, 2013 6:51 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    OT. Gold and silver are truly getting into a buy range for those with any savings left after the FED again tells us there’s been no inflation.

    But copper, brass and lead have jumped in price…at least together.

    /and that is Obama’s brilliant deficit reduction plan! The gubermint buys up all the ammo and then sells it back to us at a huge profit!

    comrade, you are not smiling?


  117. huckfunn
    119 | February 20, 2013 6:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…

    Boy, we really missed out by not having her as Secretary of State…
    //

    She would have been a disaster, but look at what we ended up with; John Fool Kerry who starts his SOS career by yammering about global warming. The whole world is laughing.


  118. heysoos
    120 | February 20, 2013 7:00 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…
    Boy, we really missed out by not having her as Secretary of State…
    //

    She would have been a disaster, but look at what we ended up with; John Fool Kerry who starts his SOS career by yammering about global warming. The whole world is laughing.

    she should be horse whipped for her latest outburst…rarely have I ever heard anything so cold and callous…I’d like to impose about 50k in dental work upon her heartless face, and she deserves worse


  119. coldwarrior
    121 | February 20, 2013 7:01 pm

    new threat. its art, its history, its real men doing ‘real man’ things.


  120. huckfunn
    122 | February 20, 2013 7:04 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    she should be horse whipped for her latest outburst…rarely have I ever heard anything so cold and callous…I’d like to impose about 50k in dental work upon her heartless face, and she deserves worse

    As Groucho once said “I’d horse whip you if I had a horse”.


  121. brookly red
    123 | February 20, 2013 7:05 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Susan Rice: Investigation Into Benghazi Talking Points “Bigger Tragedy” Than Actual Terrorism Attack…

    Boy, we really missed out by not having her as Secretary of State…
    //

    She would have been a disaster, but look at what we ended up with; John Fool Kerry who starts his SOS career by yammering about global warming. The whole world is laughing.

    in a way it is good, we have to hit bottom before we can rise…


  122. buzzsawmonkey
    124 | February 20, 2013 7:05 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Obama was raised in a what?

    A barn, from the way he puts his feet on the White House furniture…


  123. brookly red
    125 | February 20, 2013 7:07 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Obama was raised in a what?

    A barn, from the way he puts his feet on the White House furniture…

    Nooo, think again. starts with an M as in muslim…


  124. heysoos
    126 | February 20, 2013 7:08 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    she should be horse whipped for her latest outburst…rarely have I ever heard anything so cold and callous…I’d like to impose about 50k in dental work upon her heartless face, and she deserves worse
    As Groucho once said “I’d horse whip you if I had a horse”.

    heh…good one
    I get pissed


  125. 127 | February 20, 2013 7:08 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That’s right Rice. The real tragedy in all this was denying you the position of Secretary of State. How could any of us have forgotten that four dead Americans, including our Ambassador, pales in comparison to the embarrassment you and the rest of that criminal enterprise of an Administration must have felt having to be DRAGGED kicking and screaming to Capitol Hill to answer for your effing incompetence?


  126. lobo91
    128 | February 20, 2013 7:08 pm

    Also not from The Onion:

    Iranian Ayatollahs Issue Fatwa Against Video Calling…

    A new Iranian 3G mobile Internet operator that has brought video-calling to Iran is flouting a fatwa issued by four grand ayatollahs.

    Four grand ayatollahs — Nasser Makarem-Shirazi, Hossein Nouri Hamedani , Jafar Sohbhani and Seyyed Sajjad Alavi Gorgani — have issued fatwas banning Rightel.

    “The decadence and corruption associated with [Rightel’s] use outweighs its benefits,” decreed Grand Ayatollah Makarem-Shirazi. “It will cause new deviances in our society, which is unfortunately already plagued with deviances.” Ayatollah Alavi Gorghani said that the video-call service would “jeopardize the public chastity” and “inflicts numerous damages” on Iran’s religion and political system.


  127. heysoos
    129 | February 20, 2013 7:10 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    That’s right Rice. The real tragedy in all this was denying you the position of Secretary of State. How could any of us have forgotten that four dead Americans, including our Ambassador, pales in comparison to the embarrassment you and the rest of that criminal enterprise of an Administration must have felt having to be DRAGGED kicking and screaming to Capitol Hill to answer for your effing incompetence?

    preach it…I’m starting to actually foam…never heard anything so base in my life


  128. brookly red
    130 | February 20, 2013 7:12 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    That’s right Rice. The real tragedy in all this was denying you the position of Secretary of State. How could any of us have forgotten that four dead Americans, including our Ambassador, pales in comparison to the embarrassment you and the rest of that criminal enterprise of an Administration must have felt having to be DRAGGED kicking and screaming to Capitol Hill to answer for your effing incompetence?

    I am still not convinced it was incompetence… I still say left out to dry, set up. show me I am wrong.


  129. 131 | February 20, 2013 7:16 pm

    J & G Sales and renowned manufacturer Barrett have joined the boycott of vendors and manufacturers refusing to sell anything to NY state government agencies that they cannot also sell to NY state citizens.


  130. heysoos
    132 | February 20, 2013 7:18 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    J & G Sales and renowned manufacturer Barrett have joined the boycott of vendors and manufacturers refusing to sell anything to NY state government agencies that they cannot also sell to NY state citizens.

    heh…who’s your big brother now?


  131. lobo91
    133 | February 20, 2013 7:19 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    I don’t see law enforcement needing anything Barrett makes, anyway.

    They have no use for any sort of ultra-long range sniper rifles in any caliber, and certainly not .50 BMG. Typical LE “sniper” engagements are at less than 200 yards.


  132. brookly red
    134 | February 20, 2013 7:20 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    J & G Sales and renowned manufacturer Barrett have joined the boycott of vendors and manufacturers refusing to sell anything to NY state government agencies that they cannot also sell to NY state citizens.

    the worm is turning, the people are rejecting the tyrants


  133. 135 | February 20, 2013 7:20 pm

    @ brookly red:

    That’s the one thing that REALLY makes my blood boil -- those goons at State watching it live like it’s an action movie download from Netflix.

    And there were five survivors. Why hasn’t ANYONE heard from them??


  134. heysoos
    136 | February 20, 2013 7:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    I don’t see law enforcement needing anything Barrett makes, anyway.
    They have no use for any sort of ultra-long range sniper rifles in any caliber, and certainly not .50 BMG. Typical LE “sniper” engagements are at less than 200 yards.

    good grief, that’s not the point bro…think positive once in a while


  135. lobo91
    138 | February 20, 2013 7:22 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    And there were five survivors. Why hasn’t ANYONE heard from them??

    There’s no phone service at the outpost in Outer Mongolia where they were transferred?


  136. brookly red
    139 | February 20, 2013 7:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    and certainly not .50 BMG.

    /have you seen the rats in the Bronx lately? like mini cooper’s with greasy fur.


  137. heysoos
    140 | February 20, 2013 7:23 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    J & G Sales and renowned manufacturer Barrett have joined the boycott of vendors and manufacturers refusing to sell anything to NY state government agencies that they cannot also sell to NY state citizens.

    the worm is turning, the people are rejecting the tyrants

    not too sure, but could be…the problem with the donk agenda is that they make nothing, produce nothing and stand for nothing…they rob a finite well…it has to come to a head


  138. 141 | February 20, 2013 7:24 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    I don’t see law enforcement needing anything Barrett makes, anyway.
    They have no use for any sort of ultra-long range sniper rifles in any caliber, and certainly not .50 BMG. Typical LE “sniper” engagements are at less than 200 yards.

    5 million quatloos says the NYPD and the state police already have some. Police departments in CA sure did, and Barrett voided all their warrenties and refused all requests for factory repair work.


  139. lobo91
    142 | February 20, 2013 7:25 pm

    @ heysoos:

    good grief, that’s not the point bro…think positive once in a while

    You apparently missed my point.

    Regardless of whether or not they have any justifiable need for such things, they do buy them, along with surplus APCs and all sorts of other hardware they shouldn’t have.

    Anything that limits their access to those things is a plus.


  140. brookly red
    143 | February 20, 2013 7:26 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    That’s the one thing that REALLY makes my blood boil — those goons at State watching it live like it’s an action movie download from Netflix.

    And there were five survivors. Why hasn’t ANYONE heard from them??

    you already know the answer… there were not supposed to be any survivors. look up my comments the first night, they were set up, but why?


  141. heysoos
    144 | February 20, 2013 7:27 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ Mike C.:
    I don’t see law enforcement needing anything Barrett makes, anyway.
    They have no use for any sort of ultra-long range sniper rifles in any caliber, and certainly not .50 BMG. Typical LE “sniper” engagements are at less than 200 yards.
    5 million quatloos says the NYPD and the state police already have some. Police departments in CA sure did, and Barrett voided all their warrenties and refused all requests for factory repair work.

    Barrett is trying to contribute…pointing out all the possible road blocks dulls the spirit


  142. lobo91
    145 | February 20, 2013 7:27 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    5 million quatloos says the NYPD and the state police already have some.

    Oh, I’m sure they do, along with surplus M113s and all sorts of other stuff they don’t need.


  143. brookly red
    146 | February 20, 2013 7:28 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    I don’t see law enforcement needing anything Barrett makes, anyway.
    They have no use for any sort of ultra-long range sniper rifles in any caliber, and certainly not .50 BMG. Typical LE “sniper” engagements are at less than 200 yards.

    5 million quatloos says the NYPD and the state police already have some. Police departments in CA sure did, and Barrett voided all their warrenties and refused all requests for factory repair work.

    well yes they do… I wonder if that ban includes the state militia?


  144. heysoos
    147 | February 20, 2013 7:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    good grief, that’s not the point bro…think positive once in a while
    You apparently missed my point.
    Regardless of whether or not they have any justifiable need for such things, they do buy them, along with surplus APCs and all sorts of other hardware they shouldn’t have.
    Anything that limits their access to those things is a plus.

    your ‘point’ is easily diluted into ho hum…why don’t you give some credit for attitude instead of constantly pointing out fire arms tactics…


  145. 148 | February 20, 2013 7:33 pm

    @ brookly red:

    well yes they do… I wonder if that ban includes the state militia?

    Barrett’s ban also includes federal government office in NY state. In other words, if the citizens can’t buy it, they don’t sell it to anybody in NY. J&G Sales and several others have said the same thing.


  146. lobo91
    149 | February 20, 2013 7:35 pm

    @ heysoos:

    your ‘point’ is easily diluted into ho hum…why don’t you give some credit for attitude instead of constantly pointing out fire arms tactics…

    I apologize for occasionally bringing facts into the discussion here.


  147. brookly red
    150 | February 20, 2013 7:37 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    well yes they do… I wonder if that ban includes the state militia?

    Barrett’s ban also includes federal government office in NY state. In other words, if the citizens can’t buy it, they don’t sell it to anybody in NY. J&G Sales and several others have said the same thing.

    You know I live in NY and I think the rest of the country needs to bitch slap us a bit. I would like to see soft drink companies embargo us for example…


  148. heysoos
    151 | February 20, 2013 7:39 pm

    anytime any manufacturer denies doing business to an anti 2nd Amendment idealists, I consider a very good thing…bitch and moan ABOUT DETAILS

    ch and moan thAT IT WON’T WORKlobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    your ‘point’ is easily diluted into ho hum…why don’t you give some credit for attitude instead of constantly pointing out fire arms tactics…
    I apologize for occasionally bringing facts into the discussion here.

    why back off?…it’s not about facts in this world, it’s about attitude…pick a fight and fight it…you find fault too often


  149. lobo91
    152 | February 20, 2013 7:41 pm

    @ brookly red:

    You know I live in NY and I think the rest of the country needs to bitch slap us a bit. I would like to see soft drink companies embargo us for example…

    It wouldn’t be the first time something like that happened.

    About 10 years ago, Maryland passed a law mandating that all handguns sold in the state beginning in the following year had to include technology that would prevent anyone other than the registered owner from firing them. Never mind the fact that no such technology existed at the time (or does today, for that matter).

    As the deadline approached, all the gun manufacturers notified FFLs in the state that they wouldn’t be shipping any new products to them.

    The state repealed the law pretty quickly after than.


  150. heysoos
    153 | February 20, 2013 7:43 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Mike C. wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    well yes they do… I wonder if that ban includes the state militia?
    Barrett’s ban also includes federal government office in NY state. In other words, if the citizens can’t buy it, they don’t sell it to anybody in NY. J&G Sales and several others have said the same thing.

    You know I live in NY and I think the rest of the country needs to bitch slap us a bit. I would like to see soft drink companies embargo us for example…

    heh…pretty funny…it’s like trans regional tho, the crazyness is almost everywhere…so many screaming tards…we may have to hire the Chinese to update our crowd control


  151. lobo91
    155 | February 20, 2013 7:44 pm

    @ heysoos:

    why back off?…it’s not about facts in this world, it’s about attitude…pick a fight and fight it…you find fault too often

    I’m not picking a damn thing. You are.

    You know what? Add yourself to the list of people who can ignore my comments, and I’ll do the same with yours.


  152. heysoos
    156 | February 20, 2013 7:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    why back off?…it’s not about facts in this world, it’s about attitude…pick a fight and fight it…you find fault too often
    I’m not picking a damn thing. You are.
    You know what? Add yourself to the list of people who can ignore my comments, and I’ll do the same with yours.

    it’s hardly come to that within 4 posts…how may I serve you?


  153. brookly red
    157 | February 20, 2013 7:47 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    You know I live in NY and I think the rest of the country needs to bitch slap us a bit. I would like to see soft drink companies embargo us for example…

    It wouldn’t be the first time something like that happened.

    About 10 years ago, Maryland passed a law mandating that all handguns sold in the state beginning in the following year had to include technology that would prevent anyone other than the registered owner from firing them. Never mind the fact that no such technology existed at the time (or does today, for that matter).

    As the deadline approached, all the gun manufacturers notified FFLs in the state that they wouldn’t be shipping any new products to them.

    The state repealed the law pretty quickly after than.

    see the worm is turning… If Phillip Morris said 7 dollars a pack tax on cigarettes? we won’t sell in your state the boston tea party would look like a 5 yrs olds BD a chucky cheese.


  154. brookly red
    158 | February 20, 2013 7:50 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    why back off?…it’s not about facts in this world, it’s about attitude…pick a fight and fight it…you find fault too often

    I’m not picking a damn thing. You are.

    You know what? Add yourself to the list of people who can ignore my comments, and I’ll do the same with yours.

    relax dude, Barrett’s stance is a good thing technically efficient or not… the task is at hand and only unity will save the day.


  155. lobo91
    159 | February 20, 2013 7:52 pm

    @ brookly red:

    see the worm is turning… If Phillip Morris said 7 dollars a pack tax on cigarettes? we won’t sell in your state the boston tea party would look like a 5 yrs olds BD a chucky cheese.

    I’m really hoping that Magpul moves out of state once our legislature finishes passing their new magazine ban.

    They inserted an exemption for manufacturers because they don’t want to lose those jobs, but they should leave the state anyway.


  156. brookly red
    160 | February 20, 2013 7:53 pm

    huckfunn wrote:

    306 county sheriffs and 10 state sheriffs associations have now pledged that they will not enforce laws that encroach on the 2nd amendment.

    Cali and Ill are huge.


  157. lobo91
    161 | February 20, 2013 7:54 pm

    @ brookly red:

    relax dude, Barrett’s stance is a good thing technically efficient or not… the task is at hand and only unity will save the day.

    Where did I say anything about “efficiency”?

    The short version of what I said was “Good. They don’t need them anyway.”


  158. yenta-fada
    162 | February 20, 2013 7:54 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I’m a fan of lobo’s facts, as well as his military service.


  159. heysoos
    163 | February 20, 2013 7:55 pm

    @ lobo91:
    agreed, it’s the principle…go just over the Kansas line and set up shop again…if I were a billionaire I’d front them the money, just say bill me


  160. huckfunn
    164 | February 20, 2013 7:59 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    huckfunn wrote:

    306 county sheriffs and 10 state sheriffs associations have now pledged that they will not enforce laws that encroach on the 2nd amendment.

    Cali and Ill are huge.

    Percentage-wise, New Mexico is winning with 32 of 33 sheriffs signing.


  161. lobo91
    165 | February 20, 2013 7:59 pm

    Video is a wonderful thing:

    Flashback: Biden Says Sequester “Overwhelmingly Redeeming Feature” Of Fiscal Deal…

    Bringing this up would probably be considered racist or something…


  162. Bumr50
    166 | February 20, 2013 8:00 pm

    Morons.

    Activist investors have succeeded for the first time in placing a shareholder resolution on the risks of greenhouse-gas emissions up for a vote at a major bank, a step toward making climate change an important consideration for corporations.

    The resolution, which follows years of protests over banks financing certain coal operations, is to be included in proxy material being sent to shareholders of Downtown-based PNC Financial Services Group before the bank’s April 23 annual meeting.

    It asks PNC to assess and report back to shareholders on how its lending results in greenhouse gas emissions that can alter the climate, posing financial risks for its corporate borrowers and risks to its own reputation.


  163. brookly red
    167 | February 20, 2013 8:00 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    relax dude, Barrett’s stance is a good thing technically efficient or not… the task is at hand and only unity will save the day.

    Where did I say anything about “efficiency”?

    The short version of what I said was “Good. They don’t need them anyway.”

    I hear you it’s just that we have so little good news for the sake of morale let it be?


  164. lobo91
    168 | February 20, 2013 8:04 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I hear you it’s just that we have so little good news for the sake of morale let it be?

    For the sake of my own morale, I could do without some of the mindless sniping.

    Maybe it’s time for me to find a different forum, anyway.


  165. heysoos
    169 | February 20, 2013 8:05 pm

    say what you want…the Chinese aren’t stupid
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unocjGOPRUM


  166. brookly red
    170 | February 20, 2013 8:05 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Video is a wonderful thing:

    Flashback: Biden Says Sequester “Overwhelmingly Redeeming Feature” Of Fiscal Deal…

    Bringing this up would probably be considered racist or something…

    well the way I see it we need to cut spending & Sequester is like snipping up Obama’s credit card which any sane chapter 11 court would do… now if we need to find more funding for defense we can take it from social programs.


  167. heysoos
    171 | February 20, 2013 8:11 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Video is a wonderful thing:
    Flashback: Biden Says Sequester “Overwhelmingly Redeeming Feature” Of Fiscal Deal…
    Bringing this up would probably be considered racist or something…

    well the way I see it we need to cut spending & Sequester is like snipping up Obama’s credit card which any sane chapter 11 court would do… now if we need to find more funding for defense we can take it from social programs.

    I eagerly await the the Sequestion From Hell..I’m already medievil


  168. brookly red
    172 | February 20, 2013 8:15 pm

    hey what do we need more health care for illegals, or a Navy? sometimes you gotta make the hard choices.


  169. lobo91
    173 | February 20, 2013 8:17 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    hey what do we need more health care for illegals, or a Navy? sometimes you gotta make the hard choices.

    Unfortunately, an awful lot of people would pick the former.


  170. brookly red
    174 | February 20, 2013 8:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    hey what do we need more health care for illegals, or a Navy? sometimes you gotta make the hard choices.

    Unfortunately, an awful lot of people would pick the former.

    well let’s put it to the test shall we? historically guns win over butter every time.


  171. lobo91
    175 | February 20, 2013 8:22 pm

    @ brookly red:

    well let’s put it to the test shall we? historically guns win over butter every time.

    We’ve always had relatively sane people in charge before, though.


  172. brookly red
    176 | February 20, 2013 8:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    well let’s put it to the test shall we? historically guns win over butter every time.

    We’ve always had relatively sane people in charge before, though.

    so shall we surrender?


  173. 177 | February 20, 2013 8:26 pm

    New Thread.


  174. lobo91
    178 | February 20, 2013 8:29 pm

    @ brookly red:

    so shall we surrender?

    I’m not planning to, but then, I took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.


  175. darkwords
    179 | February 20, 2013 9:11 pm

    @ 119 huckfunn: Susan Rice was a minority hire in the bad sense of the words.


  176. lobo91
    180 | February 20, 2013 9:13 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 119 huckfunn: Susan Rice was a minority hire in the bad sense of the words.

    There’s a good sense?


  177. 181 | February 21, 2013 7:52 am

    Guggi wrote:

    Mississippi ratifies 13th amendment abolishing slavery … 147 years lateAcademics prompt ratification after noticing that 1995 move to accept amendment detailed in Lincoln had not been completed

    Fact is, once an amendment has been ratified, there is no need for the few remaining states to take any position on it. It’s already the law of the land.

    This is just media posturing.

    I sure as HELL wish that more people would concern themselves more with human trafficking in the 21st century, in the present, in which we can take action against the (mostly Muslim) perps, rather than with human trafficking in the 19th century, in which nothing can be done because it’s in the past.

    It’s been said that the Devil gets us to fret about the past and worry about the future, to keep us from doing God’s work in the present.


  178. 182 | February 21, 2013 7:54 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    I hear you it’s just that we have so little good news for the sake of morale let it be?
    For the sake of my own morale, I could do without some of the mindless sniping.
    Maybe it’s time for me to find a different forum, anyway.

    Please stay here.


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