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Florida Govenor Rick Scott to cave on Obamacare Medicaid Expansion

by Rodan ( 151 Comments › )
Filed under Election 2014, Healthcare, Progressives, Republican Party at February 21st, 2013 - 3:00 pm

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I was never a huge fan of Florida Governor Rick Scott. Although I voted for him in 2010, there was something shady about him. My instinct were correct about him. After seeing Obama win re-election by carrying Florida and with continues low approvals, Rick Scott has decided to shift Left. In an about face, Gov. Scott has agreed to expand the Florida’s Medicaid program under Obama care.

Florida Governor Rick Scott supports expanding Medicaid in his state under President Barack Obama’s health-care law, at least while the federal government pays for it, a reversal of the Republican’s previous position.

Scott said yesterday in Tallahassee that he’ll ask state lawmakers to back the expansion. After the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the law in June, Scott said he wouldn’t expand Medicaid, the health-care program for the poor, in Florida. Once Obama won re-election in November, Scott said he was open to it.

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“It is not a white flag of surrender to government-run health care,” Scott said. The states split Medicaid costs with the federal government.

Until 2017, the state won’t pay any of the cost of covering people made newly eligible for the program. Thereafter, states don’t have to pay more than 10 percent of the extra cost. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the federal government’s bill for the expansion will be about $638 billion through 2023. The states will pay about $63 billion, according to the CBO.

Rick Scott has already caved to elements of the republican Party on allowing Casino based Destination resorts to be built in Florida. Allowing the Casinos would bring in tourism, jobs and added revenue to Florida. But no, an element in the Republican party killed the idea. Now Gov. Rick Scott aka Skeletor caves to Obama on Medicaid expansion.What use is a Republican if they do not believe in economic liberty and fiscal responsibility?

There is no use in voting for a Republicans if they are not economic or fiscally Conservatives. That is why in the 2014 Midterms I will vote for Libertarian Party candidate Roger Stone. He’s a former Republican who worked on the winning Presidential campaigns of Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. He got tired of the growing Statist nature and losing attitude of today’s Republican Party. He stands for economic and personal liberty. I will gladly vote for Roger Stone over that fraudster Rick Scott. Many other Republican I have spoken with, will also vote for Roger Stone. I will still vote Republcian at the Federal level in 2014, but Libertarian at the local level.

Bye bye Skeletor, you will be a one term wonder.

 

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  1. 1 | February 21, 2013 3:05 pm

    This particular bit of news is making me somewhat ill, and not just when Scott did this either. We can’t forget Kasich, Martinez, Dalrymple, and Sandoval have also recently caved on this very issue. All this as even the biggest cheer leaders from the Dem party who voted for it are backing away from this monstrosity as fast as their crooked little legs will carry them.


  2. 2 | February 21, 2013 3:09 pm

    This guy is a 1st class creep.


  3. buzzsawmonkey
    3 | February 21, 2013 3:10 pm

    I’m tired of the Palooka Party always taking a dive for the guaranteed short money.


  4. 4 | February 21, 2013 3:11 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    I do not understand what his reasoning was. This came after he said there will be no Destination Resort Casinos built in Florida. This would have proved lots jobs and revenue. But he cave because a bunch of loudmouths scared him.

    He’s apathetic.


  5. 5 | February 21, 2013 3:12 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That is why I will gladly vote for Roger Stone. He was a Republcian when they knew how to win elections. Now they are bunch of cornballs like Skeletor.


  6. 6 | February 21, 2013 3:12 pm

    I predict Roger Stone will get 15-20% of the vote.


  7. buzzsawmonkey
    7 | February 21, 2013 3:13 pm

    BTW—following up on Carolina Girl’s comments on the last thread, here is my comment on Obama’s intervening in the DOMA case:

    The case before the Supreme Court will result in the gutting of the First and Tenth Amendments, if the First DA/DT Justice writes the decision.

    Two cases are being considered together; a suit by a same-sex couple seeking to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act on grounds of “equal protection,” since the couple is married under New York state law and the federal government does not recognize same-sex marriages as marriages.

    The other case is the Ninth Circuit’s voiding of the California vote which rejected same-sex marriage as a state-constitution matter.

    If the First DA/DT Justice writes the decision, the state law in New York will be used as the excuse to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act as unconstitutional. It would be absurd for this to happen, but that does not mean it is not likely.

    Once the DOMA is overturned on the basis of the NY state law and “equal protection” grounds, the Court will then uphold the Ninth Circuit decision that ignores the will of California voters—again on “equal protection” grounds—and refuse to accept the right of California voters to vote to amend their own state constitution.

    If such a result occurs, the Tenth Amendment will be dead—because the Supreme Court will be abrogating the right of the people of a state to determine what is in their own state constitution.

    The First Amendment will also be dead, because the entire purpose of the same-sex marriage agitation is to undermine the protections of the First Amendment—freedom of speech, freedom of association, and freedom of religion. The gay-rights movement has already hollowed out the free-speech protections of the First Amendment by popularizing the bogus concept of “hate speech”; it has destroyed freedom of association by supporting lawsuits against private businesses which have politely declined same-sex marriage-related business; its purpose is to make the observance of traditional religion a matter of “hate speech” if traditional religion dares to teach traditional morality with regard to sexual behavior.

    Obama would love to have the Court overturn the DOMA, since he is totally incapable of getting legislation drafted or repealed. It is an easy way for him to claim a “win” without actually working at the job to which he was elected.

    I do not like DOMA—I believe that the federal government should stay out of the marriage business, which has traditionally been the province of the states. But the insistence of the gay-rights movement on creating nonexistent “rights” which it wants the federal government to foist upon the states across the board is a real problem.


  8. 8 | February 21, 2013 3:14 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    May I borrow that phrase? It had me laughing for a minute or two.


  9. buzzsawmonkey
    9 | February 21, 2013 3:14 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    May I borrow that phrase? It had me laughing for a minute or two.

    Sure, go for it.


  10. 10 | February 21, 2013 3:18 pm

    @ Flyovercountry:

    It’s the truth.


  11. 11 | February 21, 2013 3:20 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Obama wants another Roe vs. Wade decision. That verdict was a God send to the Democrats and they have used it to club Republicans over the head with. Now this ruling will be used by Dems for the next few decades.

    The Left knows what they are doing.


  12. brookly red
    12 | February 21, 2013 3:23 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Obama wants another Roe vs. Wade decision. That verdict was a God send to the Democrats and they have used it to club Republicans over the head with. Now this ruling will be used by Dems for the next few decades.

    The Left knows what they are doing.

    I am increasingly of the opinion that the game is rigged in favor of the house. Knowing that it can’t be won I suppose the only option is to stop playing.


  13. 13 | February 21, 2013 3:26 pm

    @ brookly red:

    It feels like a dictatorship. It’s as if Republicans are just strawmen Democrats use to beat up on.

    We can thank that jerk Rove for this mess.


  14. lobo91
    14 | February 21, 2013 3:27 pm

    House Democrats Propose 10% Tax On Guns To Fund Gun Buyback Programs…

    Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.) and 18 other House Democrats have proposed legislation that would impose a 10 percent tax on concealable firearms and use this revenue to fund federal grants for gun buyback programs.

    Under her bill, H.R. 793, the 10 percent tax would be applied to concealable guns as they are now defined in U.S. law. The tax would be paid by the seller of these weapons, though the tax would not be collected on concealable guns bought by federal, state or local governments.


  15. buzzsawmonkey
    15 | February 21, 2013 3:28 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Obama wants another Roe vs. Wade decision. That verdict was a God send to the Democrats and they have used it to club Republicans over the head with. Now this ruling will be used by Dems for the next few decades.

    The Left knows what they are doing.

    Yes, they do—and the Right stays in denial. Look at how few people even here are willing to look at the way the utterly pseudoscientific “gay-rights” movement has managed to buffalo people into thinking that the marriage push is about “love” or even about “protecting relationships and children.” The history says otherwise.

    For the First DA/DT Justice to get to write the decision will not take much. There are four almost-certain votes for same-sex marriage on the Court: Kagen, Sotomayor and Breyer are a lock; Ginsburg is a probable. All they need is one more; who will it be? Roberts the squish? The “compassionate” Kennedy? If the arguments are properly phrased to point out that marriage is not the province of the federal government, one could even imagine Thomas, Scalia or Alito voting to overturn DOMA.

    I would not grieve for DOMA, as such—I do not believe that it is constitutional either. But I would not want to give that kind of go-ahead to the anti-constitutional gay-rights movement, nor give the Court the ability to rule against the citizens of a state voting on what is to be in their own state’s constitution, nor see the Court decree same-sex marriage as a “right.”


  16. lobo91
    16 | February 21, 2013 3:29 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    It feels like a dictatorship. It’s as if Republicans are just strawmen Democrats use to beat up on.
    We can thank that jerk Rove for this mess.

    Sean Hannity won’t like hearing you say that about his buddy.


  17. 17 | February 21, 2013 3:29 pm

    The Republicans have caved on Hagel. Why did they make such a big fuss if they were going to cave.


  18. buzzsawmonkey
    18 | February 21, 2013 3:29 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I am increasingly of the opinion that the game is rigged in favor of the house.

    If it were rigged in favor of the house, Boehner would win something once in a while…


  19. brookly red
    19 | February 21, 2013 3:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    It feels like a dictatorship. It’s as if Republicans are just strawmen Democrats use to beat up on.

    We can thank that jerk Rove for this mess.

    It is a dictatorship and we have more that just Rove to blame


  20. buzzsawmonkey
    20 | February 21, 2013 3:30 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    The Republicans have caved on Hagel. Why did they make such a big fuss if they were going to cave.

    If you don’t make it look good for the rubes, they won’t lay their money down and the odds go to hell.


  21. 21 | February 21, 2013 3:30 pm

    @ lobo91:

    yes, the great Architect who spent 400 Million and produced just 1 Senate win.


  22. brookly red
    22 | February 21, 2013 3:31 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    I am increasingly of the opinion that the game is rigged in favor of the house.

    If it were rigged in favor of the house, Boehner would win something once in a while…

    don’t think for one moment he is not becoming incredibly wealthy.


  23. 23 | February 21, 2013 3:31 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That is why, we should not get worked up anymore. What’s the point if Republicans just do Obama’s bidding?


  24. 24 | February 21, 2013 3:32 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Boehner probably has a nice Caymans bank account.


  25. brookly red
    25 | February 21, 2013 3:38 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    The Republicans have caved on Hagel. Why did they make such a big fuss if they were going to cave.

    If you don’t make it look good for the rubes, they won’t lay their money down and the odds go to hell.

    like I said, don’t play the game… the I prefer to play the numbers than to donate to the GOP, at least Tony pays when you hit.


  26. buzzsawmonkey
    26 | February 21, 2013 3:40 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    at least Tony pays when you hit.

    Whereas the government hits you even when you pay.


  27. 27 | February 21, 2013 3:41 pm

    In all fainess to Scott, the people of Florida voted for Obama, which means they voted for ObamaCare. They are just getting what they voted for here.


  28. brookly red
    28 | February 21, 2013 3:41 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    That is why, we should not get worked up anymore. What’s the point if Republicans just do Obama’s bidding?

    exactly it will take more than a corrupted opposition party to fix this… we may have a 3rd party, we may have states leave the union, we my have worse but something is going to give soon.


  29. darkwords
    29 | February 21, 2013 3:45 pm

    While crashing the economy is bad for everyone. Security is gone. It’s probably the only way to level the current political playing field. Keep Obama’s nose in the mud for 4 years. Take the pain. Recover later.

    I think it does mean voting libertarian.

    The left ideology needs to be interrupted, not just reinterpreted.


  30. darkwords
    30 | February 21, 2013 3:46 pm

    @ 28 brookly red: I would agree something is going to give. It’s time to start pointing fingers at the left, so they don’t get pointed at you. Obama is all about inexperience.


  31. brookly red
    31 | February 21, 2013 3:47 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    In all fainess to Scott, the people of Florida voted for Obama, which means they voted for ObamaCare. They are just getting what they voted for here.

    honestly I don’t think we can say they did for certain, there was so much fraud, we will never know for sure.


  32. brookly red
    32 | February 21, 2013 3:48 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 28 brookly red: I would agree something is going to give. It’s time to start pointing fingers at the left, so they don’t get pointed at you. Obama is all about inexperience.

    when the shit hits the fan none of that will matter.


  33. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | February 21, 2013 3:49 pm

    In case you missed it: a little clip that shows how political corruption really works.


  34. buzzsawmonkey
    34 | February 21, 2013 3:50 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    They are just getting what they voted for here.

    Good and hard.


  35. 35 | February 21, 2013 3:51 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Now he’s one termer and we will say bye bye to him. Maybe he can star in a movie version of He Man as Skeletor! :lol:


  36. 36 | February 21, 2013 3:52 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Scott caved on Destination resorts Casinos. All because some people were screaming it will hurt Florida’s family friendly image.


  37. 37 | February 21, 2013 3:55 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Obama barely carried Florida. Romney did not run any ads here until October. Romney threw the state away.


  38. brookly red
    38 | February 21, 2013 3:55 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ darkwords:

    Scott caved on Destination resorts Casinos. All because some people were screaming it will hurt Florida’s family friendly image.

    maybe… or maybe Ried’s people in Vegas just made it worth his while? I think that is much more likely


  39. lobo91
    39 | February 21, 2013 3:57 pm

    Biden: “I Am Going To Say Something Outrageous: You’ve Had No Better Friend Over The Last 35 Years Than Me”…

    The “You” he was referring to was, of course, those trying to do away with the Second Amendment.


  40. 40 | February 21, 2013 3:57 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    Oh, the whole country is getting it good and hard, bu tthat is what the majority voted for. We are all along for the ride. I don’t think it stops until the economy collapses, which will take about another ten years or so. What happens then is anybody’s guess, but it won’t be pleasant. I am figuring a meltdown like Greece, bare minimum, without any bailout. But it will probably be worse, because there won’t be any bailout. And whne the American economy goes down, so does the world’s. Like the Great Depression, except with $25 trillion in US debt to work off the books somehow.


  41. 41 | February 21, 2013 3:59 pm

    Gee, go after a shooter unarmed!

    Bay Area Law Enforcement Encourages Fighting Back Against Active Shooters


  42. buzzsawmonkey
    42 | February 21, 2013 3:59 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Like the Great Depression, except with $25 trillion in US debt to work off the books somehow.

    We’ll pay it off in genuine $3 bills—with Obama’s face on them.


  43. buzzsawmonkey
    43 | February 21, 2013 3:59 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Bay Area Law Enforcement Encourages Fighting Back Against Active Shooters

    Grab those ball-point pens, folks.


  44. brookly red
    44 | February 21, 2013 4:01 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Obama barely carried Florida. Romney did not run any ads here until October. Romney threw the state away.

    I saw so much fraud here in NY (which was a safe blue state anyway) that I have Zero faith in the system or our elections… you say he carried Fla, OK that is what they tell us, but I think things are not what they appear to be.


  45. lobo91
    45 | February 21, 2013 4:02 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    Bay Area Law Enforcement Encourages Fighting Back Against Active Shooters
    Grab those ball-point pens, folks.

    And scissors.


  46. brookly red
    46 | February 21, 2013 4:07 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Rodan wrote:

    Bay Area Law Enforcement Encourages Fighting Back Against Active Shooters

    Grab those ball-point pens, folks.

    In the spring of 75 we had riots at my HS… I personally have shanked someone with a Bic finepoint… OK they did not have a gun but a pen under your ribs can ruin your day…


  47. The Osprey
    47 | February 21, 2013 4:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden: “I Am Going To Say Something Outrageous: You’ve Had No Better Friend Over The Last 35 Years Than Me”…
    The “You” he was referring to was, of course, those trying to do away with the Second Amendment.

    Give ‘em both barrels Joe! :lol:


  48. buzzsawmonkey
    48 | February 21, 2013 4:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    And scissors.

    And, figuratively speaking, ankles.


  49. lobo91
    49 | February 21, 2013 4:08 pm

    More of that “new civility”:

    Obama: Helping Rich Only Thing That “Binds” GOP Together…

    Speaking about the looming sequester deadline, Obama said: “My sense is that their basic view is that nothing is important enough to raise taxes on wealthy individuals or corporations, and they would rather see [billions in sequester cuts to social programs]… That’s the thing that binds their party together at this point.”

    Obama boasted that “75 percent” of the country backed his mix of tax hikes and spending reductions — rejecting Republicans’ argument that he needs to pony up more budget and entitlement cuts.

    I wonder where his figures came from?

    Probably the same place as Biden’s claims about support for gun control, and the bogus stats used to sell “global warming.”


  50. brookly red
    50 | February 21, 2013 4:14 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    More of that “new civility”:

    Obama: Helping Rich Only Thing That “Binds” GOP Together…

    Speaking about the looming sequester deadline, Obama said: “My sense is that their basic view is that nothing is important enough to raise taxes on wealthy individuals or corporations, and they would rather see [billions in sequester cuts to social programs]… That’s the thing that binds their party together at this point.”

    Obama boasted that “75 percent” of the country backed his mix of tax hikes and spending reductions — rejecting Republicans’ argument that he needs to pony up more budget and entitlement cuts.

    I wonder where his figures came from?

    Probably the same place as Biden’s claims about support for gun control, and the bogus stats used to sell “global warming.”

    the same place all the others did… I have lost my faith in the system it is all a pack of lies.


  51. heysoos
    51 | February 21, 2013 4:15 pm

    wonder wtf about those tanks and jets given to Egypt?…
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/21/us-denied-direct-access-to-benghazi-suspect-held-in-egypt/


  52. lobo91
    52 | February 21, 2013 4:17 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Even if it were true (which it’s not) it would be based on lies fed to them by the MSM anyway.

    Other than FNC, they’re all talking about there being some actual “spending cuts.”


  53. lobo91
    53 | February 21, 2013 4:18 pm

    @ heysoos:

    It’s called jizya.

    We don’t get anything in return.


  54. brookly red
    54 | February 21, 2013 4:18 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    wonder wtf about those tanks and jets given to Egypt?…
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02/21/us-denied-direct-access-to-benghazi-suspect-held-in-egypt/

    like I said all a pack of lies…

    a real government would open a silo and ask them to re-consider.


  55. heysoos
    55 | February 21, 2013 4:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    It’s called jizya.
    We don’t get anything in return.

    helps keep the lid on Benghazi


  56. brookly red
    56 | February 21, 2013 4:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Even if it were true (which it’s not) it would be based on lies fed to them by the MSM anyway.

    Other than FNC, they’re all talking about there being some actual “spending cuts.”

    yup, bring it on… bring it hard and fast.


  57. 57 | February 21, 2013 4:21 pm

    @ lobo91:

    People in the abstract may support raising taxes along with budget cuts, but those tax increases do not go to deficit reduction. he’s being very facetious.


  58. 58 | February 21, 2013 4:23 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Maybe even sooner than 10 years.


  59. lobo91
    59 | February 21, 2013 4:23 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    People in the abstract may support raising taxes along with budget cuts, but those tax increases do not go to deficit reduction. he’s being very facetious.

    Since he has no intention of allowing anything to actually be cut, I’d call it a bald-faced lie.


  60. brookly red
    60 | February 21, 2013 4:23 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    It’s called jizya.
    We don’t get anything in return.

    helps keep the lid on Benghazi

    Benghazi will be the down fall of this regime it was a lie too far.


  61. heysoos
    61 | February 21, 2013 4:24 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    People in the abstract may support raising taxes along with budget cuts, but those tax increases do not go to deficit reduction. he’s being very facetious.

    the GOP should hammer BO regarding his non existent stimulus reports, and make him explain where every dollar went before even considering any new tax…but they roll over instead


  62. lobo91
    62 | February 21, 2013 4:25 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Benghazi will be the down fall of this regime it was a lie too far.

    How do you figure?

    70% of the country has either never heard of it or thinks Ben Ghazi is a contestant on American Idol.

    Of the remaining 30%, most agree with Hillary Clinton.


  63. 63 | February 21, 2013 4:26 pm

    @ lobo91

    I member you mentioned this.

    Latest Front in the Gun Debate Is Mandatory Insurance


  64. 64 | February 21, 2013 4:26 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I wish they knew how to fight.


  65. lobo91
    65 | February 21, 2013 4:26 pm

    @ heysoos:

    the GOP should hammer BO regarding his non existent stimulus reports, and make him explain where every dollar went before even considering any new tax…but they roll over instead

    He’s now demanding another $50 billion in “stimulus” spending.


  66. brookly red
    67 | February 21, 2013 4:30 pm

    @ heysoos:
    @ Rodan:

    but they are complacent collaborators, it is a sham, they don’t want to fight you (Rodan) said your self straw-men to be beat up on… it is all a pack of lies


  67. lobo91
    68 | February 21, 2013 4:32 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91
    I member you mentioned this.
    Latest Front in the Gun Debate Is Mandatory Insurance

    I’ll go along with that as soon as they start requiring liability insurance for Democrat voters.


  68. brookly red
    69 | February 21, 2013 4:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    the GOP should hammer BO regarding his non existent stimulus reports, and make him explain where every dollar went before even considering any new tax…but they roll over instead

    He’s now demanding another $50 billion in “stimulus” spending.

    another 50 billion in worthless paper? it only prolongs the inevitable…


  69. 70 | February 21, 2013 4:33 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    @ Rodan:
    but they are complacent collaborators, it is a sham, they don’t want to fight you (Rodan) said your self straw-men to be beat up on… it is all a pack of lies

    Yup, its becoming obvious this is all a sham.


  70. 71 | February 21, 2013 4:34 pm

    @ lobo91:

    This will be the Left’s next tack on guns.


  71. buzzsawmonkey
    72 | February 21, 2013 4:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    He’s now demanding another $50 billion in “stimulus” spending.

    Compared to the first trillion, $50 billion is, unbelievably, peanuts.


  72. brookly red
    73 | February 21, 2013 4:36 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’ll go along with that as soon as they start requiring liability insurance for Democrat voters.

    Oh fucking please they can’t even make illegal aliens buy car insurance. What if 50 or 60 million (armed) people just say no?


  73. heysoos
    74 | February 21, 2013 4:40 pm

    a dysfunctional mob of 1000 people beating the snot out of the other 300 million…the feds and msm
    people feel hopeless because it’s a hopeless situation..what good is conservative ideology if you don’t express it


  74. yenta-fada
    75 | February 21, 2013 4:42 pm

    About that cheap healthcare insurance…

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-21/guest-post-about-your-316-day-healthcare-insurance-plan


  75. brookly red
    76 | February 21, 2013 4:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    This will be the Left’s next tack on guns.

    look at fucking obamacare… it is based on the premise that no one will comply and hence be fined… today in Brooklyn there have already been 6 shootings… http://www.spotcrime.com/ny/brooklyn

    02/20/2013
    06:15 AM
    Shooting
    FLATLANDS AVENUE AND EAST 108TH STREET

    02/20/2013
    12:45 AM
    Shooting
    PRESIDENT STREET AND ROCHESTER AVENUE

    02/20/2013
    01:30 AM
    Shooting
    PRESIDENT ST AND UTICA AVE

    02/20/2013
    10:34 AM
    Shooting
    900 BLOCK OF DEKALB AVE.

    02/20/2013
    08:16 AM
    Shooting
    FLATLANDS AVE AND E 108TH ST

    02/19/2013
    11:05 AM
    Shooting
    84TH ST AND 5TH AVE

    I don’t see insurance compliance happening… in fact I see a government incapable of governing.


  76. Tanker
  77. 78 | February 21, 2013 4:47 pm

    @ Tanker:
    600K surplus from his operating budget? And it’s 20% of his yearly budget? REALLY? The shock shouldn’t be that he’s returning money, the shock should be that his operating budget is THAT HUGE! Multiply it by the number of senators and representatives. Now I know how most of those crooks end up millionaires after serving so many years.


  78. heysoos
    79 | February 21, 2013 4:48 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    600K surplus from his operating budget? And it’s 20% of his yearly budget? REALLY? The shock shouldn’t be that he’s returning money, the shock should be that his operating budget is THAT HUGE! Multiply it by the number of senators and representatives. Now I know how most of those crooks end up millionaires after serving so many years.

    and it’s your money


  79. lobo91
    80 | February 21, 2013 4:48 pm

    @ Rodan:

    Legally owned guns don’t cost society anything, so there’s no reason to require gun owners to have insurance.

    The costs come from criminals with guns, who certainly aren’t going to buy insurance.

    The whole idea is a scam designed to increase the burden on law-abiding gun owner, in the hope that they’ll decide that it isn’t worth the trouble.


  80. heysoos
    81 | February 21, 2013 4:50 pm

    the people are taxed enough to run TWO govt’s


  81. 82 | February 21, 2013 4:50 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    and it’s your money

    Not my money, I am Canadian. :D


  82. yenta-fada
    83 | February 21, 2013 4:51 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Maybe even sooner than 10 years.

    From what I read, a lot depends on the petrodollar. There is a trend going on of trading ME oil outside of the U.S. dollar system. As long as energy buyers and sellers have to use the U.S. reserve currency, the status is there. When China, or an Asian block is able to use its own currency globally, the dollar matters less. I remember after one of the trials after 9/11, and the Islamist yelled “The dollar is dead”. You cannot time the endgame of currency wars, but they are going under-reported by the Western press. (like everything else that matters)


  83. brookly red
    84 | February 21, 2013 4:52 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    600K surplus from his operating budget? And it’s 20% of his yearly budget? REALLY? The shock shouldn’t be that he’s returning money, the shock should be that his operating budget is THAT HUGE! Multiply it by the number of senators and representatives. Now I know how most of those crooks end up millionaires after serving so many years.

    OH please he returns it and Mendez just buys more underage hookers… he should have used thew money to buy ammo and pass it out to his constituents


  84. lobo91
    85 | February 21, 2013 4:52 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    That’s the money that goes to pay for their staff salaries and their office expenses in their home district. Most Senators have a couple of offices in different parts of their state.

    The amount they get is based on seniority, not on what state they’re from, which is kind of backwards. Someone from a state like Vermont doesn’t need as much for expenses as a Senator from, say, California or Texas.


  85. brookly red
    86 | February 21, 2013 4:53 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    and it’s your money

    Not my money, I am Canadian.

    we will be coming for your oil soon… have a nice day.


  86. coldwarrior
    87 | February 21, 2013 4:56 pm

    ok…lemme get this straight. the bible thumpers in the panhandle managed to squash casinos in miami?

    its miami…casinos would work great there!

    pinheads. dont like it dont go there!


  87. yenta-fada
    88 | February 21, 2013 4:58 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    On the other hand, China is talking up the U.S. dollar. Who to believe??? /

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/9881410/China-loves-the-US-dollar-again-as-America-roars-back.html


  88. 89 | February 21, 2013 4:59 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Our MP’s annual budget (for a back bencher) is almost $600,000 a year. That’s their salary, offices, travel expenses, etc…


  89. yenta-fada
    90 | February 21, 2013 5:00 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    PaladinPhil wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    and it’s your money
    Not my money, I am Canadian.
    we will be coming for your oil soon… have a nice day.

    It’s always about you. /


  90. coldwarrior
    91 | February 21, 2013 5:01 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    PaladinPhil wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    and it’s your money
    Not my money, I am Canadian.
    we will be coming for your oil soon… have a nice day.
    It’s always about you. /

    zip it and hand over the oil.

    :lol:


  91. lobo91
    92 | February 21, 2013 5:01 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Our MP’s annual budget (for a back bencher) is almost $600,000 a year. That’s their salary, offices, travel expenses, etc…

    Yeah, but it’s Canada.

    //Only half-kidding


  92. brookly red
    93 | February 21, 2013 5:05 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    zip it and hand over the oil.

    pipeline time


  93. coldwarrior
    94 | February 21, 2013 5:07 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    zip it and hand over the oil.

    pipeline time

    dont make me come up there.


  94. Tanker
    95 | February 21, 2013 5:08 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    600K surplus from his operating budget? And it’s 20% of his yearly budget? REALLY? The shock shouldn’t be that he’s returning money, the shock should be that his operating budget is THAT HUGE! Multiply it by the number of senators and representatives. Now I know how most of those crooks end up millionaires after serving so many years.

    I realize what you are saying and agree the amount of his budget may be huge, the fact is, Rand is returning some of the people’s money. If all 100 senators did the same, we would see 60,000,000 returned. I know when you talk trillions, 60,000,000 is chump change, but I still like him returning his unused funds! Small steps!


  95. yenta-fada
    96 | February 21, 2013 5:09 pm

    OT Big Bird is really taking chances hanging out in the WH kitchen with FLOTUS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uVn6p9s1gUk


  96. coldwarrior
    97 | February 21, 2013 5:11 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    I still like him returning his unused funds! Small steps!

    long is the struggle, hard the fight.

    amen.


  97. 98 | February 21, 2013 5:17 pm

    @ Tanker:
    If my back of the envelope calculations are correct his yearly budget is close to 3 million dollars.


  98. lobo91
    99 | February 21, 2013 5:22 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    If my back of the envelope calculations are correct his yearly budget is close to 3 million dollars.

    Between his DC office and the one or more he has in Kentucky, he probably has 50 staff members or so. That’s going to eat up a good part of that money.

    Then there’s office rent, utilities, etc.

    It’s not as much money as it seems like for the scale of the operation.


  99. 100 | February 21, 2013 5:23 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Still seems exorbitant. Thinking of the same figures for our pols who have to have a similar staff and office set up. Our wages and cost of living isn’t that much lower then yours.


  100. lobo91
    101 | February 21, 2013 5:24 pm

    @ PaladinPhil:

    Here’s a link that shows his staff expenditures.

    His staff got almost $2.1 million in FY 2012.

    If he gave back $600k, that leaves about $300k to pay for everything else.


  101. Tanker
    102 | February 21, 2013 5:26 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    If my back of the envelope calculations are correct his yearly budget is close to 3 million dollars.

    Ok? 20% of 3,000,000 is $600,000.00, so $600,000 x 100 (senators) = $60,000,000.00 dollars. Where did I go wrong Teach? I showed my work!


  102. coldwarrior
    103 | February 21, 2013 5:27 pm

    while we are at it.


  103. 104 | February 21, 2013 5:27 pm

    @ Tanker:
    You are correct, now the yearly budget expense should be around 300,000,000.00 for just the senate alone. If not more. Cutbacks?


  104. coldwarrior
    105 | February 21, 2013 5:28 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Ok? 20% of 3,000,000 is $600,000.00, so $600,000 x 100 (senators) = $60,000,000.00 dollars. Where did I go wrong Teach? I showed my work!

    *THWAK*

    sit down and behave yourself, tanker!

    :lol:


  105. Tanker
    106 | February 21, 2013 5:32 pm

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    You are correct, now the yearly budget expense should be around 300,000,000.00 for just the senate alone. If not more. Cutbacks?

    I don’t disagree with you that it may be excessive, but my point all along was that he at least returned some. I’m good with cutting across the board 5% (true cuts not slowing growth) for 5 years no exemptions no exceptions, but I know it’s not going to happen.


  106. lobo91
    107 | February 21, 2013 5:35 pm

    @ Tanker:

    I don’t disagree with you that it may be excessive, but my point all along was that he at least returned some. I’m good with cutting across the board 5% (true cuts not slowing growth) for 5 years no exemptions no exceptions, but I know it’s not going to happen.

    Even Paul Ryan wasn’t really looking at cutting much of anything.


  107. Tanker
    108 | February 21, 2013 5:42 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    I don’t disagree with you that it may be excessive, but my point all along was that he at least returned some. I’m good with cutting across the board 5% (true cuts not slowing growth) for 5 years no exemptions no exceptions, but I know it’s not going to happen.
    Even Paul Ryan wasn’t really looking at cutting much of anything.

    Yup….shame is the name of the game! My wife and I had real cuts when I retired, but thank G_d goodness she prepared for it!


  108. lobo91
    109 | February 21, 2013 5:47 pm

    @ Tanker:

    If I were Boehner, I would insist on a real cut of $250 billion this year, and increase it by $250 billion per year until the budget is balanced. At most, that would take 5 years, since the current deficit is about $1.25 trillion.

    Then I would make them start paying down the debt by $250 billion a year.

    It would take awhile, but it could be done.


  109. Tanker
    110 | February 21, 2013 5:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    If I were Boehner, I would insist on a real cut of $250 billion this year, and increase it by $250 billion per year until the budget is balanced. At most, that would take 5 years, since the current deficit is about $1.25 trillion.
    Then I would make them start paying down the debt by $250 billion a year.
    It would take awhile, but it could be done.

    Afraid the US will need to wait for someone other than cry baby to get real change. That’s saying the republicans retain the house! Not holding my breath on that happening!


  110. brookly red
    111 | February 21, 2013 6:09 pm

    Cheese ravioli with sauteed spinach… life is good


  111. Da_Beerfreak
    112 | February 21, 2013 6:10 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Tanker:
    If I were Boehner, I would insist on a real cut of $250 billion this year, and increase it by $250 billion per year until the budget is balanced. At most, that would take 5 years, since the current deficit is about $1.25 trillion.
    Then I would make them start paying down the debt by $250 billion a year.
    It would take awhile, but it could be done.

    Afraid the US will need to wait for someone other than cry baby to get real change. That’s saying the republicans retain the house! Not holding my breath on that happening!

    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.


  112. brookly red
    113 | February 21, 2013 6:11 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Tanker:

    If I were Boehner, I would insist on a real cut of $250 billion this year, and increase it by $250 billion per year until the budget is balanced. At most, that would take 5 years, since the current deficit is about $1.25 trillion.

    Then I would make them start paying down the debt by $250 billion a year.

    It would take awhile, but it could be done.

    well IF you were Boehner you would actually give a shit… he is just another whore with off shore bank accounts.


  113. 114 | February 21, 2013 6:12 pm

    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.


  114. brookly red
    115 | February 21, 2013 6:13 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.

    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.


  115. coldwarrior
    116 | February 21, 2013 6:17 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.

    i cant wait. half this nation needs a good object lesson in econ.


  116. Da_Beerfreak
    117 | February 21, 2013 6:23 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.

    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.

    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.


  117. Tanker
    118 | February 21, 2013 6:28 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.
    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.

    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.

    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all. Not just his peeps!


  118. brookly red
    119 | February 21, 2013 6:30 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.

    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.

    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.

    ending is a relative term… one’s end is another’s beginning. Anyone with half a brain can see where this is going but is it the end or the beginning? I have trust in God and his plan.


  119. Da_Beerfreak
    120 | February 21, 2013 6:30 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.

    i cant wait. half this nation needs a good object lesson in econ.

    If my micro and macro classmates were a representative sample, then the shock of what is coming will be a complete surprise to most of the Country. Dark clouds are gathering, the storm is coming, very little time left to prepare.


  120. heysoos
    121 | February 21, 2013 6:31 pm

    the govt does whatever it wants…it’s particularly good at inventing a crisis, then billing you for a solution that will fail, so they bill you again…crisis after crisis after crisis…it never ends because the govt is corrupt and has no intention of doing what’s best for all Americans


  121. brookly red
    122 | February 21, 2013 6:32 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.
    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.

    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.

    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all. Not just his peeps!

    I think my savior can take his savior, in fact I bet my soul on it.


  122. Da_Beerfreak
    123 | February 21, 2013 6:34 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.
    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.

    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.

    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all. Not just his peeps!

    Where in St. Paul?? I’ll go over there and smack some sense into him for you… :twisted:


  123. brookly red
    124 | February 21, 2013 6:35 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.

    i cant wait. half this nation needs a good object lesson in econ.

    If my micro and macro classmates were a representative sample, then the shock of what is coming will be a complete surprise to most of the Country. Dark clouds are gathering, the storm is coming, very little time left to prepare.

    And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.


  124. coldwarrior
    125 | February 21, 2013 6:36 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    If my micro and macro classmates were a representative sample, then the shock of what is coming will be a complete surprise to most of the Country. Dark clouds are gathering, the storm is coming, very little time left to prepare.

    they quit teaching econ in HS for a reason. ignorance makes for sheep.

    i want it to get so bad that people literally starve for a while. yeah, its harsh. but harsh is needed to get thru to the idiots.


  125. 126 | February 21, 2013 6:38 pm

    @ Tanker:

    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all.

    All hail our Migthy God-King Obama!
    ///

    :lol:


  126. brookly red
    127 | February 21, 2013 6:40 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    i want it to get so bad that people literally starve for a while. yeah, its harsh. but harsh is needed to get thru to the idiots.

    well on one hand it will get so bad, on the other there is no getting thru to the idiots.


  127. heysoos
    128 | February 21, 2013 6:44 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    i want it to get so bad that people literally starve for a while. yeah, its harsh. but harsh is needed to get thru to the idiots.
    well on one hand it will get so bad, on the other there is no getting thru to the idiots.

    that’s what I’m thinkin…who says things will improve after some sort of trauma?…consider the trauma permanent, just like the unemployment numbers


  128. Tanker
    129 | February 21, 2013 6:45 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.
    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.
    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.
    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all. Not just his peeps!

    Where in St. Paul?? I’ll go over there and smack some sense into him for you…

    Temptation..temptation, get thee behind me satin! :twisted: I’m betting you just may do it!


  129. 130 | February 21, 2013 6:46 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.

    Yup.


  130. heysoos
    131 | February 21, 2013 6:47 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    Iron Fist wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.

    Yup.

    that’s when ‘range time’ will be in your front yard


  131. brookly red
    132 | February 21, 2013 6:48 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    i want it to get so bad that people literally starve for a while. yeah, its harsh. but harsh is needed to get thru to the idiots.
    well on one hand it will get so bad, on the other there is no getting thru to the idiots.

    that’s what I’m thinkin…who says things will improve after some sort of trauma?…consider the trauma permanent, just like the unemployment numbers

    After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

    things will improve, a whole lot of people need to pass first but it shall be.


  132. heysoos
    133 | February 21, 2013 6:49 pm

    sequester can’t happen soon enough for me


  133. Da_Beerfreak
    134 | February 21, 2013 6:50 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Tanker wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.
    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.
    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.
    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all. Not just his peeps!

    Where in St. Paul?? I’ll go over there and smack some sense into him for you…

    Temptation..temptation, get thee behind me satin! I’m betting you just may do it!

    Not really, on the internet I’m just another Keyboard Kommando. :grin:

    But there’s no doubt that Minnesota is the land of 10,000 sky blue Kool-aid drinkers. :evil:


  134. Tanker
    135 | February 21, 2013 6:50 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Tanker wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    Real change is going to require ‘Blood, Toil, Tears and Sweat’.
    It will get ugly.
    it is already ugly… I think what you mean is “there will be blood”.
    Uglier would have definitively been a better word to use there. I’ve read enough history over the last forty-five years to see that the path we are on does not lead to a happy ending.
    I agree, but a somewhat friend of mine that lives in St. Paul, Mn assures me that the savior in the WH will save us all. Not just his peeps!
    Where in St. Paul?? I’ll go over there and smack some sense into him for you…

    Temptation..temptation, get thee behind me satin! I’m betting you just may do it!

    Now if I could learn to spell satin = satan


  135. brookly red
    136 | February 21, 2013 6:55 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    And Paul Ryan’s budget was considered too “radical” to be “realistic”. No, the government isn’t going to cut anything until our creditors force us to cut. Then it is going to be truly traumatic, but they’ll cut when the economy collapses.

    and what has happened historically each time a great power has reached it limits? A great war. The lines are being drawn now… we are in a better place than most but it’s a haaaard rain thats gonna fall.


  136. brookly red
    137 | February 21, 2013 6:57 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    sequester can’t happen soon enough for me

    How do you think I’m going to get along,
    Without you, when you’re gone
    You took me for everything that I had,
    And kicked me out on my own

    Are you happy, are you satisfied
    How long can you stand the heat
    Out of the doorway the bullets rip
    To the sound of the beat


  137. lobo91
    138 | February 21, 2013 7:13 pm

    Biden Screams: “There Are Plenty Of Ways To Protect Yourself And Recreate Without An AR-15!”…

    See, that depends on what it is you’re planning to protect yourself against, doesn’t it?


  138. brookly red
    139 | February 21, 2013 7:15 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden Screams: “There Are Plenty Of Ways To Protect Yourself And Recreate Without An AR-15!”…

    See, that depends on what it is you’re planning to protect yourself against, doesn’t it?

    Rush said it best. “the libs always tell you what frightens them”


  139. lobo91
    140 | February 21, 2013 7:16 pm

    Anti-Rape Training


  140. heysoos
    141 | February 21, 2013 7:19 pm

    @ lobo91:
    @ lobo91:
    STFU Joe…nobody asked you to express your bottomless stupidity…
    again, when the discussion opens with ‘how many’…’who needs’ you automatically disqualify yourself from reason…you are too stupid to understand that all those rounds are meant for you and your minions…come get some, Joe


  141. lobo91
    142 | February 21, 2013 7:23 pm

    Egypt: New Jihadist Group Emerges To Target Christians, Copts Told To Convert To Islam Or Face Death…

    Sure is a good thing we didn’t just give those crazies a bunch of new tanks and fighter jets…
    //


  142. brookly red
    143 | February 21, 2013 7:30 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Egypt: New Jihadist Group Emerges To Target Christians, Copts Told To Convert To Islam Or Face Death…

    Sure is a good thing we didn’t just give those crazies a bunch of new tanks and fighter jets…
    //

    Obama is a radical Muslim… wake up and deal with it.


  143. heysoos
    144 | February 21, 2013 7:35 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Egypt: New Jihadist Group Emerges To Target Christians, Copts Told To Convert To Islam Or Face Death…
    Sure is a good thing we didn’t just give those crazies a bunch of new tanks and fighter jets…
    //

    Obama is a radical Muslim… wake up and deal with it.

    the tanks and jets paid off the MB for keeping the Benghazi guys out of the picture…there is no other explanation


  144. heysoos
    145 | February 21, 2013 7:37 pm

    @ heysoos:
    @ heysoos:
    and that guy is probably Egyptian…I think the Gyps will go for Libyan oil


  145. coldwarrior
    146 | February 21, 2013 7:46 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Now if I could learn to spell satin = satan

    conspiracy.

    :lol:


  146. coldwarrior
    147 | February 21, 2013 7:47 pm

    @ heysoos:

    my dad was big in one of the craft unions, he used to meet with biden at least once a year. dad sez that dude is the single dumbest human he ever met.


  147. coldwarrior
    148 | February 21, 2013 7:49 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Egypt: New Jihadist Group Emerges To Target Christians, Copts Told To Convert To Islam Or Face Death…
    Sure is a good thing we didn’t just give those crazies a bunch of new tanks and fighter jets…
    //

    give them the jets and tanks! yes!

    then we control the spare parts. how are those iranian f16′s flyin?

    not so good. see, ya need parts to make em zoom.


  148. coldwarrior
    149 | February 21, 2013 7:49 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden Screams: “There Are Plenty Of Ways To Protect Yourself And Recreate Without An AR-15!”…
    See, that depends on what it is you’re planning to protect yourself against, doesn’t it?

    i prefer east bloc, thats just me tho.


  149. 150 | February 22, 2013 8:21 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    If my micro and macro classmates were a representative sample, then the shock of what is coming will be a complete surprise to most of the Country. Dark clouds are gathering, the storm is coming, very little time left to prepare.
    they quit teaching econ in HS for a reason. ignorance makes for sheep.
    i want it to get so bad that people literally starve for a while. yeah, its harsh. but harsh is needed to get thru to the idiots.

    Problem is that a lot of the people who will starve are either elderly/seriously ill or too young to have voted for anybody.

    It’ll happen whether you want it to or not.


  150. PhillipDodge
    151 | February 22, 2013 10:28 am

    Rick Scott is bowing to the 51% that re-elected Obama in Florida. Roger Stone could make this a three-way race and beat all of them. Rick Scott’s popularity was low and now as a result of the flip-flop it will be even lower. Does he really think he can garner Democratic votes? Charlie Crist is also toast and this time, not milk-toast. He, too is a turn-coat that Democrats won’t trust thanks to the unsuccessful attempt to cover-up his dirty dealings with the henchman he appointed to lead the RPOF namely Jim Greer (who just pled guilty.) That leaves Roger Stone who is smarter, richer and enjoys national recognition. Libertarians from across the country will contribute hoping to get one their own into a governor’s office.


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