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Britons are now a minority in London

by Speranza ( 165 Comments › )
Filed under immigration, UK at February 22nd, 2013 - 3:00 pm

Can it be that London will resemble what so many urban centers in America have become? White Britons are the minority in London for the first time and they make up 45 per cent of London’s population, with Asians being the second largest group. Asians more often or not being a euphemism for Pakistani/Bengali Muslims.

by Jack Doyle

More than 600,000 white British Londoners have left the capital in a decade.

Census figures show that between 2001 and 2011 the level of ‘white flight’ reached 620,000.

It is the equivalent of a city the size of Glasgow – made up entirely of white Britons – moving out of the capital.

he figures, reported by the BBC yesterday, mean that for the first time, white Britons are now in a minority in the country’s largest city.

At the same time, the census shows, some rural areas have seen a rise in the proportion of people who describe their ethnicity as ‘white British’.

Some 3.7million Londoners classified themselves as white British in 2011 – down from 4.3million in 2001 – despite the city’s population increasing by nearly one million over the decade to 8.2million.

White Britons now make up 45 per cent of the population, compared with 58 per cent in 2001.

[.......]Three million foreign-born people now live in the capital.

Five London boroughs saw the proportion of white Britons fall by more than a quarter. The largest decline was in Newham, East London, where the decrease was 37.5 per cent.

In Barking and Dagenham, on the East London/Essex border, 80 per cent of residents were white British in 2001 but by 2011 the proportion was 49 per cent.

[.......]

There were also big falls in Redbridge, Harrow, Brent, Enfield, Ealing and Waltham Forest. The BBC website was criticised by readers for its depiction of the change as a ‘story of success’ in which many white Britons had moved out to live by the sea or in the countryside.

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the MigrationWatch think-tank, said: ‘The BBC make a very serious mistake in addressing an issue of such importance to the British public in such a trivial and superficial manner.

[.......]

Ralph Baldwin, a Tory councillor in Barking and Dagenham, said: ‘I think people left for a variety of reasons.

‘If you look back to the early 2000s many people were able to retire to Clacton-on-Sea and they saw their friends going and followed.

‘But people also watched all this demographic change going on between 2000 and 2010 and they thought, “We don’t know where we are living any more”.

‘One day they are in a place that they think is Essex and then they are living in another place.
‘It has never been an issue of race. It’s about the inability of people to affect change. The world was changing around them and they couldn’t do anything about it.’

Behind white Britons, the largest ethnic group in London is now Asians – including those born here and those arriving from overseas – who make up 18 per cent of the population.

Black Londoners – including Africans, black Britons and those from the Caribbean – make up 13 per cent.

The census shows the proportion of white Britons in South Derbyshire went up by 13.7 per cent over the decade.

Other rural boroughs that saw big increases included North Kesteven and West Lindsey in Lincolnshire, Uttlesford in Essex, East Northamptonshire, East Cambridgeshire, Mid Suffolk, South Norfolk, Mid Devon and Forest Heath in Suffolk.

The census shows the population of England and Wales was swollen by nearly four million immigrants in a decade of sweeping social change.

In 2011 there were 7.5million people who were born abroad living here, of whom more than half had arrived since 2001.

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165 Responses to “Britons are now a minority in London”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | February 22, 2013 3:06 pm

    Who could have seen this coming? /


  2. The Osprey
    2 | February 22, 2013 3:13 pm

    Enoch Powell.


  3. 3 | February 22, 2013 3:18 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The problem in Britain is not Black vs. White. Its White/Black/Hindu vs. Muslim.


  4. Speranza
    4 | February 22, 2013 3:19 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The problem in Britain is not Black vs. White. Its White/Black/Hindu vs. Muslim.

    That’s the impression I get.


  5. Speranza
    5 | February 22, 2013 3:20 pm

    Enoch Powell despite being a Tory was no friend of America.


  6. 6 | February 22, 2013 3:24 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The British Blacks and the Pakis have many fights.


  7. Speranza
    7 | February 22, 2013 3:26 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The British Blacks and the Pakis have many fights.

    In America when they say “Asian” we think of East Asia i.e. China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, the Phillipines. In Britain it usually means Muslims from Pakistan or Bangladesh.


  8. The Osprey
    8 | February 22, 2013 3:29 pm

    “Asian” in British English means someone from the Indian Subcontinent.
    It’s only recently become a euphemism for Muslim. Britons still refer to East Asians as “Orientals” which has become a semi-politically incorrect term here.


  9. Speranza
    9 | February 22, 2013 3:31 pm

    I never understood why “Oriental” is politically incorrect.


  10. 10 | February 22, 2013 3:35 pm

    @ Speranza:

    I know that. I laughed at a British coworker who said that He would take our illegal Mexicans/Central Americans any day of the week over the Muzz in his country. He proposed a trade, we send the 11 Million illegals there and they send us back their Muzz population.

    There might be some Americans who would take that trade, but I do not think most would.


  11. 11 | February 22, 2013 3:36 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    @ Speranza:
    @ Speranza:

    I prefer Asian for east Asians. Muzz should be called just that, Muzz.


  12. lobo91
    12 | February 22, 2013 3:37 pm

    @ Rodan:

    There might be some Americans who would take that trade, but I do not think most would.

    Obama would take them without the trade.


  13. Speranza
    13 | February 22, 2013 3:40 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I know that. I laughed at a British coworker who said that He would take our illegal Mexicans/Central Americans any day of the week over the Muzz in his country. He proposed a trade, we send the 11 Million illegals there and they send us back their Muzz population.
    There might be some Americans who would take that trade, but I do not think most would.

    The British will one day regret their political correctness which allowed Islam to take root in their capital.


  14. 14 | February 22, 2013 3:41 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That is very true and I was just about to write that myself!


  15. The Osprey
    15 | February 22, 2013 3:42 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    There might be some Americans who would take that trade, but I do not think most would.

    Better to have illegal immigrants who name their kids “Jesus” rather than those who name their kids “Mohammed”.


  16. 16 | February 22, 2013 3:43 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ Speranza:
    The British Blacks and the Pakis have many fights.
    In America when they say “Asian” we think of East Asia i.e. China, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, the Phillipines. In Britain it usually means Muslims from Pakistan or Bangladesh.

    No. Actually they mean from India, in the old colonial term, That means people from what are now Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.


  17. The Osprey
    17 | February 22, 2013 3:45 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I never understood why “Oriental” is politically incorrect.

    Neither do I, but apparently it is to some people.


  18. 18 | February 22, 2013 3:45 pm

    We all know that I have way to much time on my hands, so now you will all have to suffer a little with me… I am after all a very caring and sharing is caring kind of guy…. :twisted:


  19. brookly red
    19 | February 22, 2013 3:48 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    I never understood why “Oriental” is politically incorrect.

    Neither do I, but apparently it is to some people.

    I think it was a colonial term… might be wrong but I am pretty sure.


  20. 20 | February 22, 2013 3:56 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    :lol:

    That’s a good one!


  21. lobo91
    21 | February 22, 2013 4:22 pm

    More fun from our “Asian” friends:

    Pakistan’s US Ambassador Accused Of Blasphemy Against Islam For Questioning Blasphemy Laws…

    Pakistani police registered an accusation from a businessman on Thursday that the country’s ambassador to the United States had committed blasphemy, a crime that carries the death penalty, in connection with a 2010 TV talk show.

    The accusation against Ambassador Sherry Rehman is the latest in a string of controversial blasphemy cases in Pakistan, a largely Muslim nation whose name translates as “Land of the Pure.”

    According to Pakistan’s blasphemy laws, anyone found to have uttered words derogatory to the Prophet Muhammad can be put to death. Those who are accused are sometimes lynched by mobs even before they reach court.

    Rehman has already faced death threats from militants after calling for reforms to the country’s anti-blasphemy law, according to court documents. Two politicians who suggested reforming the law were assassinated.


  22. Speranza
    22 | February 22, 2013 4:22 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    I never understood why “Oriental” is politically incorrect.
    Neither do I, but apparently it is to some people.

    I think it was a colonial term… might be wrong but I am pretty sure.

    The Orient was also used to describe the Middle East.


  23. buzzsawmonkey
    23 | February 22, 2013 4:52 pm

    It would seem that jihadi scum are Pakistan’s biggest export product.

    I wonder if that would be listed as the “principal exports” in a geography text, if schools still taught geography.


  24. lobo91
    24 | February 22, 2013 4:56 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I wonder if that would be listed as the “principal exports” in a geography text, if schools still taught geography.

    Or used textbooks.


  25. buzzsawmonkey
    25 | February 22, 2013 5:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Or used textbooks.

    I heard some crap on NPR this morning about how there needs to be “more money for schools” because some schools have more to spend on students than others do. The notion seemed to be that striving for the unachievable equality of resources would yield the unachievable equality of result.

    In reality, of course, it is a call to pour vast amounts of cash the federal government doesn’t have into local schools, where it shouldn’t be, to address in totally useless fashion an inequality which can never be erased because it is part of the human condition.

    King Canute, famously, ordered the waves to stop breaking on the shore to debunk his flattering courtiers’ assertions of his Awesome Powers. Barack Obama is a a living example of a Canute who believes his courtiers’ hype, and shares in their belief of his divinity.


  26. citizen_q
    26 | February 22, 2013 5:03 pm

    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?


  27. brookly red
    27 | February 22, 2013 5:07 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?

    Basically


  28. buzzsawmonkey
    28 | February 22, 2013 5:08 pm

    @ citizen_q:
    @ brookly red:

    And the Britons are walking that road in bespoke bench-made shoes!


  29. brookly red
    29 | February 22, 2013 5:09 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ citizen_q:
    @ brookly red:

    And the Britons are walking that road in bespoke bench-made shoes!

    no their shoes are made in China… same as ours


  30. buzzsawmonkey
    30 | February 22, 2013 5:09 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?

    The Shad ‘n’ Freud pub still serves a nice glass of bitter…


  31. lobo91
    31 | February 22, 2013 5:13 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I heard some crap on NPR this morning about how there needs to be “more money for schools” because some schools have more to spend on students than others do. The notion seemed to be that striving for the unachievable equality of resources would yield the unachievable equality of result.

    Not to mention the fact that there’s zero correlation between school expenditures and educational results.

    The DC public schools are somewhere in the top 5 nationwide in per-pupil expenditures, and near the bottom in results.

    Utah, on the other hand, spends about 1/4 of what they do in DC, yet has some of the highest graduation rates and test scores.


  32. citizen_q
    32 | February 22, 2013 5:16 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?
    The Shad ‘n’ Freud pub still serves a nice glass of bitter…

    Used to wash down a serving of crow.


  33. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | February 22, 2013 5:17 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Used to wash down a serving of crow.

    That’s crow, chips and Spam, guv’nor…


  34. brookly red
    34 | February 22, 2013 5:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I heard some crap on NPR this morning about how there needs to be “more money for schools” because some schools have more to spend on students than others do. The notion seemed to be that striving for the unachievable equality of resources would yield the unachievable equality of result.

    Not to mention the fact that there’s zero correlation between school expenditures and educational results.

    The DC public schools are somewhere in the top 5 nationwide in per-pupil expenditures, and near the bottom in results.

    Utah, on the other hand, spends about 1/4 of what they do in DC, yet has some of the highest graduation rates and test scores.

    and billions with a B have been missing from NJ schools for years now and no investigation… no arrests… http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/jon_s_corzine/index.html


  35. citizen_q
    35 | February 22, 2013 5:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Not to mention the fact that there’s zero correlation between school expenditures and educational results.

    The DC public schools are somewhere in the top 5 nationwide in per-pupil expenditures, and near the bottom in results.

    Utah, on the other hand, spends about 1/4 of what they do in DC, yet has some of the highest graduation rates and test scores.

    Komrad Zero I believe killed the school voucher program in DC, that was providing much better outcomes for the students who were able to escape from the DC public schools.


  36. buzzsawmonkey
    36 | February 22, 2013 5:21 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Komrad Zero I believe killed the school voucher program in DC

    Indeed he did.


  37. lobo91
    37 | February 22, 2013 5:24 pm

    @ citizen_q:

    Of course. It made the union look bad.

    And besides, it wouldn’t be “fair” for some kids to get a decent education if they all can’t.


  38. brookly red
    38 | February 22, 2013 5:24 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Not to mention the fact that there’s zero correlation between school expenditures and educational results.

    The DC public schools are somewhere in the top 5 nationwide in per-pupil expenditures, and near the bottom in results.

    Utah, on the other hand, spends about 1/4 of what they do in DC, yet has some of the highest graduation rates and test scores.

    Komrad Zero I believe killed the school voucher program in DC, that was providing much better outcomes for the students who were able to escape from the DC public schools.

    and we can’t have that now can we…


  39. brookly red
    39 | February 22, 2013 5:28 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ citizen_q:

    Of course. It made the union look bad.

    And besides, it wouldn’t be “fair” for some kids to get a decent education if they all can’t.

    hey I got and Idea! we could have a “literacy lottery” and the prizes could be school vouchers! yeah, it could work. You pick six numbers out of eighty and if you pill all six right , your kid learns to read! That could raise billions of unaccountable err I mean badly needed dollars for the schools.


  40. Moe Katz
    40 | February 22, 2013 5:28 pm

    Pardon me if someone already cited this: the antisemite who’s in the running for the papacy.


  41. AZfederalist
    41 | February 22, 2013 5:28 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Komrad Zero I believe killed the school voucher program in DC, that was providing much better outcomes for the students who were able to escape from the DC public schools.

    Couldn’t have private schools showing up his comrades from the NEA in the public schools. Wouldn’t look good, you know? Can’t be taking away money from union employees, that’s the liberal first commandment.


  42. brookly red
    42 | February 22, 2013 5:31 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:

    Komrad Zero I believe killed the school voucher program in DC, that was providing much better outcomes for the students who were able to escape from the DC public schools.

    Couldn’t have private schools showing up his comrades from the NEA in the public schools. Wouldn’t look good, you know? Can’t be taking away money from union employees, that’s the liberal first commandment.

    1st? are you sure? I thought thou shalt not carry to term was 1st?


  43. brookly red
  44. AZfederalist
    44 | February 22, 2013 5:41 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    1st? are you sure? I thought thou shalt not carry to term was 1st?

    No, that’s one of the sacraments, not a commandment.


  45. Bumr50
    45 | February 22, 2013 5:46 pm

    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:

    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.


  46. brookly red
    46 | February 22, 2013 5:53 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:

    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.

    is that like original guilt or something? I can’t figure that one out…


  47. 47 | February 22, 2013 5:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Bumr50 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:
    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.

    is that like original guilt or something? I can’t figure that one out…

    That is exactly what it is, well for the liberals anyways.


  48. brookly red
    48 | February 22, 2013 6:02 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Bumr50 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:
    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.

    is that like original guilt or something? I can’t figure that one out…

    That is exactly what it is, well for the liberals anyways.

    you know, Thursday nights at Our Lady of Lunch Regulations down the block they got a dogma study class… I really should study up.


  49. lobo91
    49 | February 22, 2013 6:03 pm

    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…

    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.

    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”

    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.


  50. Lily
    50 | February 22, 2013 6:05 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…
    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.
    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”
    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.

    True. And has Biden noticed that gun sales are through the roof? So I’m not real sure which Americans he is talking about…just the ones in the White House apparently.


  51. brookly red
    51 | February 22, 2013 6:06 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…

    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.

    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”

    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.

    and yes Joe for the millions that stayed home cause Romney wasn’t conservative enough you ARE the price for that inaction.


  52. yenta-fada
    52 | February 22, 2013 6:07 pm

    Melanie Phillips on the Welfare State that cannot support the Brits who paid into it all of their lives.

    http://melaniephillips.com/smoke-and-mirrors-over-welfare


  53. brookly red
    53 | February 22, 2013 6:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…
    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.
    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”
    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.

    True. And has Biden noticed that gun sales are through the roof? So I’m not real sure which Americans he is talking about…just the ones in the White House apparently.

    I think we (Americans) have more guns than telephones now… just saying.


  54. Lily
    54 | February 22, 2013 6:07 pm

    doriangrey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Bumr50 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:
    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.
    is that like original guilt or something? I can’t figure that one out…
    That is exactly what it is, well for the liberals anyways.

    I swear they are getting nuttier and nuttier every day…I consider them more leftist than liberal. Just my opinion. ;)


  55. brookly red
    55 | February 22, 2013 6:08 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Melanie Phillips on the Welfare State that cannot support the Brits who paid into it all of their lives.

    http://melaniephillips.com/smoke-and-mirrors-over-welfare

    well yes hence the death panels… this is not a surprise.


  56. Lily
    56 | February 22, 2013 6:09 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…
    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.
    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”
    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.
    and yes Joe for the millions that stayed home cause Romney wasn’t conservative enough you ARE the price for that inaction.

    A truly crying shame.


  57. brookly red
    57 | February 22, 2013 6:10 pm

    Lily wrote:

    doriangrey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Bumr50 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:
    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.
    is that like original guilt or something? I can’t figure that one out…
    That is exactly what it is, well for the liberals anyways.

    I swear they are getting nuttier and nuttier every day…I consider them more leftist than liberal. Just my opinion.

    leftest vs liberal is like saying shit vs turd… I fail to see the difference and they all smell bad.


  58. The Osprey
    58 | February 22, 2013 6:11 pm

    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels. :lol:


  59. lobo91
    59 | February 22, 2013 6:11 pm

    @ Lily:

    True. And has Biden noticed that gun sales are through the roof? So I’m not real sure which Americans he is talking about…just the ones in the White House apparently.

    Oh, he knows that. It’s caused by fear ginned up by the NRA, according to him. You know, all those claims that the Democrats want to take away people’s guns.

    I can’t imagine how anyone could come to that conclusion…
    //


  60. Lily
    60 | February 22, 2013 6:11 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…
    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.
    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”
    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.
    True. And has Biden noticed that gun sales are through the roof? So I’m not real sure which Americans he is talking about…just the ones in the White House apparently.
    I think we (Americans) have more guns than telephones now… just saying.

    I’m pretty sure I would bank money on that. obama has been a real boom to the gun industry…big time.


  61. yenta-fada
    61 | February 22, 2013 6:11 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    hey back to Briton for a moment http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9889410/Britains-credit-rating-downgraded-from-AAA-to-Aa1.html

    The comments are mostly from Americans who have figured out they get better financial news from England than from their own Press. It’s like that in other British newspapers too. They aren’t buying what Ozero is selling.


  62. Lily
    62 | February 22, 2013 6:12 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    doriangrey wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    Bumr50 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    @ AZfederalist:
    If you’re a white male the 1st Commandment is : Thou art guilty.
    is that like original guilt or something? I can’t figure that one out…
    That is exactly what it is, well for the liberals anyways.
    I swear they are getting nuttier and nuttier every day…I consider them more leftist than liberal. Just my opinion.
    leftest vs liberal is like saying shit vs turd… I fail to see the difference and they all smell bad.

    You have a point…


  63. AZfederalist
    63 | February 22, 2013 6:13 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.

    Just get a shotgun, get a shotgun.

    Yeah, fully on board with ya’ there Joe. Now, be a good boy and take your meds.


  64. yenta-fada
    64 | February 22, 2013 6:13 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels.

    How does he manage to tie his shoes?


  65. Lily
    65 | February 22, 2013 6:13 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    True. And has Biden noticed that gun sales are through the roof? So I’m not real sure which Americans he is talking about…just the ones in the White House apparently.
    Oh, he knows that. It’s caused by fear ginned up by the NRA, according to him. You know, all those claims that the Democrats want to take away people’s guns.
    I can’t imagine how anyone could come to that conclusion…
    //

    Wonders of wonders isn’t it?


  66. brookly red
    66 | February 22, 2013 6:13 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    hey back to Briton for a moment http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9889410/Britains-credit-rating-downgraded-from-AAA-to-Aa1.html

    The comments are mostly from Americans who have figured out they get better financial news from England than from their own Press. It’s like that in other British newspapers too. They aren’t buying what Ozero is selling.

    indeed… that is why Drudge links to them.


  67. Lily
    67 | February 22, 2013 6:15 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    hey back to Briton for a moment http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/9889410/Britains-credit-rating-downgraded-from-AAA-to-Aa1.html
    The comments are mostly from Americans who have figured out they get better financial news from England than from their own Press. It’s like that in other British newspapers too. They aren’t buying what Ozero is selling.

    True Americans don’t trust the American papers but we just couldn’t bring ourselves to vote out obama either.


  68. brookly red
    68 | February 22, 2013 6:16 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.

    Just get a shotgun, get a shotgun.

    Yeah, fully on board with ya’ there Joe. Now, be a good boy and take your meds.

    you know I wonder what would happen If I walked in to my local police station with a brand new shotgun (in a hard case of course)and a print out of Joe’s statement and demand that they register it by order of the VP?


  69. lobo91
    69 | February 22, 2013 6:16 pm

    Another new NRA ad:


  70. AZfederalist
    70 | February 22, 2013 6:16 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Great ad by the NRA. It’s pretty obvious where all the conservative testicles and backbones reside and it’s not in the GOP. I don’t think there’s a pair among the whole sorry lot of them. The NRA on the other hand aren’t afraid to speak the truth and take it to the idiot Obama regime.


  71. Lily
    71 | February 22, 2013 6:16 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:
    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels.
    How does he manage to tie his shoes?

    We have no idea. In fact we have no idea how he even functions.


  72. brookly red
    72 | February 22, 2013 6:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Another new NRA ad:

    That was down right inflammatory… I like it.


  73. brookly red
    73 | February 22, 2013 6:18 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels.

    How does he manage to tie his shoes?

    they are call loafers for a reason


  74. Lily
    74 | February 22, 2013 6:20 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Well it does speak the truth…something the gun grabbers aren’t doing.


  75. lobo91
    75 | February 22, 2013 6:20 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Another new NRA ad:
    That was down right inflammatory… I like it.

    And every word of it’s true.


  76. yenta-fada
    76 | February 22, 2013 6:21 pm

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels.
    How does he manage to tie his shoes?
    We have no idea. In fact we have no idea how he even functions.

    OTOH….

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/-a1581oAT0BM/URPfIzPS3XI/AAAAAAAAy6s/5Nm0_30Wu9k/s1600-h/gameofdrones%25255B3%25255D.jpg


  77. Lily
    77 | February 22, 2013 6:21 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels.
    How does he manage to tie his shoes?
    they are call loafers for a reason

    That may explain the shoes but it doesn’t explain how he is able to walk or feed himself.


  78. Lily
    78 | February 22, 2013 6:22 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Oh my!!!! :shock:


  79. lobo91
    79 | February 22, 2013 6:23 pm

    @ Lily:

    My only issue with that ad is that it uses the fraudulent term “high capacity magazine” invented by the anti-gun crowd.

    My Glock was designed to use a 15 round magazine. That’s the standard capacity for it. It’s what came with it when I bought it.

    If you make me buy 7 or 10 round magazines instead, those would be reduced capacity.


  80. Lily
    80 | February 22, 2013 6:23 pm

    Gotta go…have a good evening all! :)


  81. brookly red
    81 | February 22, 2013 6:24 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    The Osprey wrote:
    NRA lets Joe Biden have it with, um, both barrels.
    How does he manage to tie his shoes?
    they are call loafers for a reason

    That may explain the shoes but it doesn’t explain how he is able to walk or feed himself.

    well we feed him… as far as walking I don’t have a clue.


  82. brookly red
    82 | February 22, 2013 6:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:

    My only issue with that ad is that it uses the fraudulent term “high capacity magazine” invented by the anti-gun crowd.

    My Glock was designed to use a 15 round magazine. That’s the standard capacity for it. It’s what came with it when I bought it.

    If you make me buy 7 or 10 round magazines instead, those would be reduced capacity.

    I remember when a high capacity magazine meant the centerfold was not air-brushed :)


  83. Guggi
    83 | February 22, 2013 6:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    And every word of it’s true.

    “Welcome to Brack Obama’s middle class” should be translated into: “Welcome to Barack Obama’s world of “Untermenschen” (subhumans)”


  84. yenta-fada
    84 | February 22, 2013 6:26 pm

    Re: Brit downgrade. Dense blog, but great content.

    Apparently Mervyn King is planning to ‘pull out all stops’ shortly after admitting that there is not a snowball’s chance in hell that the BoE will meet its ‘inflation target’ anytime soon (after missing it for several years already). This is to say, King wants to increase debt monetization as a kind of present before he hands over the reins to Mark Carney -- who in turn has already promised more activism (read: money printing) as well. Not only has the BoE’s policy completely failed to induce even an illusory recovery, it now turns out that it has impoverished the citizens of the UK to an hitherto unexpected degree. If one looks at changes in the prices of essentials, it becomes clear that CPI and other official data vastly understate the decline in real incomes and living standards of the poor and the middle class. One wonders why there are no howling mobs in the streets demanding that the charlatans responsible for this be tarred and feathered.
    http://www.acting-man.com/?p=21825


  85. yenta-fada
    85 | February 22, 2013 6:27 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Gotta go…have a good evening all!

    {Lily} Hello and goodbye.


  86. lobo91
    86 | February 22, 2013 6:28 pm

    Latest Faux Ted Cruz Outrage: He Once Said The Faculty At Harvard Law Was Infested With Communists!…

    The really interesting part is that the complaint seems to be about the fact that he said it. Nobody’s actually trying to claim that it isn’t true.


  87. yenta-fada
    87 | February 22, 2013 6:28 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    And every word of it’s true.
    “Welcome to Brack Obama’s middle class” should be translated into: “Welcome to Barack Obama’s world of “Untermenschen” (subhumans)”

    Some German words sound better than the English translation.


  88. Guggi
    88 | February 22, 2013 6:30 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Some German words sound better than the English translation.

    maybe “second class citizens” would better fit ?


  89. brookly red
    89 | February 22, 2013 6:30 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    And every word of it’s true.

    “Welcome to Brack Obama’s middle class” should be translated into: “Welcome to Barack Obama’s world of “Untermenschen” (subhumans)”

    I would think the word “subjects” more accurate but that is just me.


  90. 90 | February 22, 2013 6:31 pm

    Oh dear. Joe? REEALLY?

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/22/biden-in-gun-control-speech-you-should-all-know-the-american-people-are-with-us/#disqus_thread

    This man needs to stop doing data extrapolation from polling done in the West Wing lunch room and applying it nationally.


  91. lobo91
    91 | February 22, 2013 6:32 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I would think the word “subjects” more accurate but that is just me.

    I agree


  92. 92 | February 22, 2013 6:32 pm

    I wonder if there are moments that Oblahblah says to himself “I KNOW I put this twit on the ticket as impeachment insurance but holy smokes -- doesn’t he need to go spend some quality time with his family soon?”


  93. brookly red
    93 | February 22, 2013 6:33 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Oh dear. Joe? REEALLY?

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/22/biden-in-gun-control-speech-you-should-all-know-the-american-people-are-with-us/#disqus_thread

    This man needs to stop doing data extrapolation from polling done in the West Wing lunch room and applying it nationally.

    this man needs to be making macaroni art and ice cream stick sculptures


  94. Guggi
    94 | February 22, 2013 6:34 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    I would think the word “subjects” more accurate but that is just me.

    I don’t think so because what O. creates is a class society with different rights.


  95. 95 | February 22, 2013 6:34 pm

    @ brookly red:

    That would require an instruction level that will send Joe into information overload.


  96. brookly red
    96 | February 22, 2013 6:35 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    I would think the word “subjects” more accurate but that is just me.

    I don’t think so because what O. creates is a class society with different rights.

    no we all have the right to do as he says… no one is being gassed yet.


  97. lobo91
    97 | February 22, 2013 6:37 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    I would think the word “subjects” more accurate but that is just me.
    I don’t think so because what O. creates is a class society with different rights.

    The point is that he’s managed to turn our Constitution on its head. According to him, we have whatever rights he thinks we should have.


  98. heysoos
    98 | February 22, 2013 6:37 pm

    good old Joe…if he were drowning, I’d toss him an anchor

    bada boom


  99. Da_Beerfreak
    99 | February 22, 2013 6:38 pm

    Just wait until the midterm elections are over; that’s when the regime will outlaw home schooling on the grounds that it is child abuse. States that refuse to send out their Child Protection Officers to round up the offending families will not get their rebate checks from DC Town. This is coming. It’s being keep below the radar at the moment.


  100. yenta-fada
    100 | February 22, 2013 6:39 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Some German words sound better than the English translation.
    maybe “second class citizens” would better fit ?

    No, “sub-humans” is perfect. I just thought the German term was evocative of the implied comparison.


  101. yenta-fada
    101 | February 22, 2013 6:40 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Oh dear. Joe? REEALLY?
    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/22/biden-in-gun-control-speech-you-should-all-know-the-american-people-are-with-us/#disqus_thread
    This man needs to stop doing data extrapolation from polling done in the West Wing lunch room and applying it nationally.

    Joe never heard of the word “extrapolate”. Stop being so mean. /


  102. Calo
    102 | February 22, 2013 6:42 pm

    @ yenta-fada:
    Cannot. Resist.


  103. heysoos
    103 | February 22, 2013 6:42 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Just wait until the midterm elections are over; that’s when the regime will outlaw home schooling on the grounds that it is child abuse. States that refuse to send out their Child Protection Officers to round up the offending families will not get their rebate checks from DC Town. This is coming. It’s being keep below the radar at the moment.

    sounds to me like the best thing that could happen with public education…get federal money out of the system


  104. Guggi
    104 | February 22, 2013 6:43 pm

    @ brookly red:
    @ lobo91:

    …and he says: “the rich” have every right to defend themselves, the right of the middle class is restricted. A class society with first class citizens and second class citizens.


  105. yenta-fada
    105 | February 22, 2013 6:43 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Cannot. Resist.

    *snorts tea*


  106. 106 | February 22, 2013 6:43 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Really -- because from that babbling he did with a reporter, I was given to understand he had an IQ


  107. yenta-fada
    107 | February 22, 2013 6:45 pm

    Without the “mock” in this blog, it would be a sad place. A brief thanks to mockers everywhere.


  108. 108 | February 22, 2013 6:45 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Really -- because from that babbling he did with a reporter, I was given to understand he had an IQ Oppenheimer would envy.

    Oh -- Rodan -- I don’t know if you saw my email earlier but I went ahead and did the thread for Sunday -- you can give it das boot if the queue is already full. Twas but a bit of fluff.


  109. heysoos
    109 | February 22, 2013 6:45 pm

    the long arm of the laws strikes again….looks like Nagin is in deep doodoo
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/02/21/former-new-orleans-mayor-nagin-arraigned-bribery-charges-not-idd-democra#ixzz2LfqhC4p0


  110. Da_Beerfreak
    110 | February 22, 2013 6:46 pm

    @ heysoos:
    But you know that’s not what’s going to happen anytime soon. The FedGov will keep pushing and the States will keep folding.


  111. heysoos
    111 | February 22, 2013 6:48 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    But you know that’s not what’s going to happen anytime soon. The FedGov will keep pushing and the States will keep folding.

    I know it…the feds are like insects, they’re everywhere


  112. yenta-fada
    112 | February 22, 2013 6:48 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    @ lobo91:
    …and he says: “the rich” have every right to defend themselves, the right of the middle class is restricted. A class society with first class citizens and second class citizens.

    From Michelles mirror

    http://lh6.ggpht.com/-bGU5R1omF_Y/USek1DOmu1I/AAAAAAAAzus/zvldViL-ZzU/s1600-h/2012-10-08T013648Z_1873639228_GM1E8A80QMK01_RTRMADP_3_OBAMA%25255B3%25255D.jpg


  113. 113 | February 22, 2013 6:48 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I would say only in New Orleans could an idiot like this be re-elected after the unmitigated disaster that was his handling of Katrina….but holy hell, DC reelected Marion Barry.


  114. AZfederalist
    114 | February 22, 2013 6:50 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Yeah, when reading the headline, my thought was, “So? Nothing untrue there”. I guess the commies still think they have to remain hidden.


  115. lobo91
    115 | February 22, 2013 6:51 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    But you know that’s not what’s going to happen anytime soon. The FedGov will keep pushing and the States will keep folding.

    That’s what’s allowing Obama to make all these doom and gloom claims about the sequester in the first place.

    If you shut down the federal government entirely, it shouldn’t make a bit of difference to your kid’s school, or your cops or firefighters. It does, though, because they’ve all become dependent on federal grant money, which they’re now threatening to cut off.


  116. heysoos
    116 | February 22, 2013 6:51 pm

    in Seattle, expensive gas (taxes?) and an explosion of a touchy feely vibe turned many people to riding bikes, alot of bikes…so what does Seattle do?….tax bikes…
    Goerge Harrison was right all those years ago


  117. AZfederalist
    117 | February 22, 2013 6:52 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    this man needs to be making macaroni art and ice cream stick sculptures

    With his room-mate Harry Reid.


  118. heysoos
    118 | February 22, 2013 6:52 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I would say only in New Orleans could an idiot like this be re-elected after the unmitigated disaster that was his handling of Katrina….but holy hell, DC reelected Marion Barry.

    studies have proven that in both those cases there was a racial element involved


  119. Da_Beerfreak
    119 | February 22, 2013 6:53 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…

    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.

    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”

    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.

    and yes Joe for the millions that stayed home cause Romney wasn’t conservative enough you ARE the price for that inaction.

    Millions have stopped playing the election game, they see it for the fraud it has become. I can’t blame them for their view that elections are a waste of time and money.


  120. yenta-fada
    120 | February 22, 2013 6:56 pm

    Women, defend yourselves!(mockery involved)

    http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/bighairynews/2013/02/republicans-offer-own-gun-alternative-protection.html


  121. heysoos
    121 | February 22, 2013 6:57 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Biden In Gun Control Speech: “You Should All Know The American People Are With Us”…
    Taking his campaign for “common sense” gun control reform to its ground zero, Vice President Joe Biden announced yesterday that the American people are completely onboard with the administration’s proposed gun control policies.
    “You should all know the American people are with us,” Biden announced. “They should know. You all should know. There is a moral price to be paid for inaction.”
    Someone needs to tell Biden that “Congressional Democrats” and “the American people” are not synonymous terms.
    and yes Joe for the millions that stayed home cause Romney wasn’t conservative enough you ARE the price for that inaction.

    Millions have stopped playing the election game, they see it for the fraud it has become. I can’t blame them for their view that elections are a waste of time and money.

    that would be me, altho I still vote it is with great pessimism…elections are the very worst dog and pony show…it’s embarrassing if you ask me…it’s a multi billion dollar racket, another shabby reality show and probably fixed as well…it is the worst of American culture, the absolute pits


  122. yenta-fada
    122 | February 22, 2013 6:58 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    I would say only in New Orleans could an idiot like this be re-elected after the unmitigated disaster that was his handling of Katrina….but holy hell, DC reelected Marion Barry.
    studies have proven that in both those cases there was a racial element involved


  123. yenta-fada
    123 | February 22, 2013 7:00 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    But you know that’s not what’s going to happen anytime soon. The FedGov will keep pushing and the States will keep folding.
    That’s what’s allowing Obama to make all these doom and gloom claims about the sequester in the first place.
    If you shut down the federal government entirely, it shouldn’t make a bit of difference to your kid’s school, or your cops or firefighters. It does, though, because they’ve all become dependent on federal grant money, which they’re now threatening to cut off.

    Someone should double-dare Barry.


  124. Speranza
    124 | February 22, 2013 7:01 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?

    Not yet but in the future, who knows?


  125. lobo91
    125 | February 22, 2013 7:01 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Like you need a “study” to figure that out…


  126. Speranza
    126 | February 22, 2013 7:02 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I would say only in New Orleans could an idiot like this be re-elected after the unmitigated disaster that was his handling of Katrina….but holy hell, DC reelected Marion Barry.

    Coleman Young was mayor of Detroit from 1973-93 and he was a complete disaster.


  127. yenta-fada
    127 | February 22, 2013 7:02 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    citizen_q wrote:
    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?
    Not yet but in the future, who knows?

    Muslim oil money keeps the politicians bought.


  128. heysoos
    128 | February 22, 2013 7:03 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    I would say only in New Orleans could an idiot like this be re-elected after the unmitigated disaster that was his handling of Katrina….but holy hell, DC reelected Marion Barry.

    Coleman Young was mayor of Detroit from 1973-93 and he was a complete disaster.

    true, but I judge a man by the fleet of tax dollar, high end cars…let’s be fair, I was the Motor City


  129. Speranza
    129 | February 22, 2013 7:03 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    citizen_q wrote:
    Much as I would like to enjoy a bit of schadenfreude given the prevalence of anti-Semitism in the UK, are we not walking this same road?
    Not yet but in the future, who knows?
    Muslim oil money keeps the politicians bought.

    and poltical correctness keeps folks stifled.


  130. heysoos
    130 | February 22, 2013 7:07 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Like you need a “study” to figure that out…

    the feds needs multi million dollar studies to confirm what any 12 year old can see in plain view


  131. Speranza
    131 | February 22, 2013 7:08 pm

    @ heysoos:
    The less said about Detroit the better (I guess).


  132. heysoos
    132 | February 22, 2013 7:11 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    The less said about Detroit the better (I guess).

    okay, but Denny McLain did win 31 games…I was there


  133. heysoos
    133 | February 22, 2013 7:18 pm

    Detroit…
    I remember Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich, Sanders and Isaiah…I recall MoTown and Barry Gordy…I remember the packed courtyard to see Led Zep at Cobo, the Cream at the East Town, the Stones up at the Palace…the roar of watching the Detroit Grand Prix race right through downtown….watching Miss Budweiser and Allied Van Lines duke it out in the unlimited class on the river at 200mph…Detroit used to be a fine city even in my lifetime, and now it’s all gone


  134. Da_Beerfreak
    134 | February 22, 2013 7:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    But you know that’s not what’s going to happen anytime soon. The FedGov will keep pushing and the States will keep folding.

    That’s what’s allowing Obama to make all these doom and gloom claims about the sequester in the first place.

    If you shut down the federal government entirely, it shouldn’t make a bit of difference to your kid’s school, or your cops or firefighters. It does, though, because they’ve all become dependent on federal grant money, which they’re now threatening to cut off.

    “One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.”

    We The People get screwed when the States sell their souls to Mordor on the Potomac for a few pieces of silver.


  135. Speranza
    135 | February 22, 2013 7:24 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Detroit…
    I remember Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich, Sanders and Isaiah…I recall MoTown and Barry Gordy…I remember the packed courtyard to see Led Zep at Cobo, the Cream at the East Town, the Stones up at the Palace…the roar of watching the Detroit Grand Prix race right through downtown….watching Miss Budweiser and Allied Van Lines duke it out in the unlimited class on the river at 200mph…Detroit used to be a fine city even in my lifetime, and now it’s all gone

    Those are days long numbered with the past.


  136. Da_Beerfreak
    136 | February 22, 2013 7:28 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    The less said about Detroit the better (I guess).

    Nuke it from orbit, it’a the only way to be sure… :twisted:


  137. lobo91
    137 | February 22, 2013 7:29 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    The less said about Detroit the better (I guess).
    Nuke it from orbit, it’a the only way to be sure…

    We could use it to replace Yucca Mountain.

    Nobody’d notice, after all…


  138. heysoos
    138 | February 22, 2013 7:30 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Detroit…
    I remember Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich, Sanders and Isaiah…I recall MoTown and Barry Gordy…I remember the packed courtyard to see Led Zep at Cobo, the Cream at the East Town, the Stones up at the Palace…the roar of watching the Detroit Grand Prix race right through downtown….watching Miss Budweiser and Allied Van Lines duke it out in the unlimited class on the river at 200mph…Detroit used to be a fine city even in my lifetime, and now it’s all gone

    Those are days long numbered with the past.

    I tend to get pretty sentimental…I grew up in a large part over there..and Chicago…I lived 150mi from either…it’s sad to see the demise of Detroit and the corruption and murder in Chicago


  139. Da_Beerfreak
    139 | February 22, 2013 7:34 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    The less said about Detroit the better (I guess).
    Nuke it from orbit, it’a the only way to be sure…

    We could use it to replace Yucca Mountain.

    Nobody’d notice, after all…

    Spent nuclear fuel rods need to be reprocessed into new fuel rods. Not thrown away because reprocessing upsets a few greenies.


  140. 141 | February 22, 2013 7:40 pm

    God is there no END to the stupid of the Democrats???

    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/22/missouri-democrats-introduce-bill-to-make-limiting-power-of-union-a-felony/#disqus_thread

    Limiting the power of a union would be a felony?? Here’s an idea -- how about fleeing the state to avoid doing your elected duty -- let’s make
    THAT a felony!


  141. heysoos
    142 | February 22, 2013 7:40 pm

    those backwoods mountaineers get it…
    http://www.statejournal.com/story/21309099/wv-house-passes-bill-to-prevent-seizure-of-firearms


  142. lobo91
    143 | February 22, 2013 7:42 pm

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Sounds like the anti-blasphemy law in Pakistan that includes quetioning the validity of the law itself as blasphemy.

    They’re currently trying to charge their ambassador to the US under it.


  143. 144 | February 22, 2013 7:42 pm

    Of course, apparently I confused the stupid Democrats in MISSOURI with the stupid Democrats in WISCONSIN….


  144. lobo91
    145 | February 22, 2013 7:43 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Texas Bill Proposes To Block Police From Enforcing Any New Federal Gun Laws

    I may have to move…


  145. heysoos
    146 | February 22, 2013 7:44 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    God is there no END to the stupid of the Democrats???
    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/22/missouri-democrats-introduce-bill-to-make-limiting-power-of-union-a-felony/#disqus_thread
    Limiting the power of a union would be a felony?? Here’s an idea — how about fleeing the state to avoid doing your elected duty — let’s make
    THAT a felony!

    ‘suggesting’ is a felony…not going to work


  146. lobo91
    147 | February 22, 2013 7:44 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Of course, apparently I confused the stupid Democrats in MISSOURI with the stupid Democrats in WISCONSIN….

    Not like there’s a shortage of stupid Democrats…


  147. lobo91
    148 | February 22, 2013 7:45 pm

    @ heysoos:

    ‘suggesting’ is a felony…not going to work

    I haven’t read their state constitution, but I doubt that legislators can be charge with crimes related to their official duties, anyway.


  148. 149 | February 22, 2013 7:46 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Well, they ARE all about equal distribution…..


  149. heysoos
    150 | February 22, 2013 7:47 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    ‘suggesting’ is a felony…not going to work
    I haven’t read their state constitution, but I doubt that legislators can be charge with crimes related to their official duties, anyway.

    and there is the small matter of the 1st Amendment


  150. 151 | February 22, 2013 7:47 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Got room in the car?
    Tell pretty puppy I’ll let her sit on my lap and give her doggie treats.


  151. lobo91
    152 | February 22, 2013 7:49 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Got room in the car?
    Tell pretty puppy I’ll let her sit on my lap and give her doggie treats.

    Sure

    The sad part is that I moved here to escape the lunatics.


  152. heysoos
    153 | February 22, 2013 7:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Carolina Girl wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    Got room in the car?
    Tell pretty puppy I’ll let her sit on my lap and give her doggie treats.
    Sure
    The sad part is that I moved here to escape the lunatics.

    they are everywhere bro…but fewer in NM than anywhere else I’ve traveled


  153. lobo91
    154 | February 22, 2013 7:53 pm

    @ heysoos:

    they are everywhere bro…but fewer in NM than anywhere else I’ve traveled

    Spend some time in Santa Fe


  154. heysoos
    155 | February 22, 2013 7:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    they are everywhere bro…but fewer in NM than anywhere else I’ve traveled
    Spend some time in Santa Fe

    Santa Fe is exactly like Boston without the accent, a pit of Subarus and co-habitate stickers


  155. Da_Beerfreak
    156 | February 22, 2013 8:00 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Yeah, like that’s going to happen:

    Keystone Pipeline Protester: “I’m Pro-Population Control,” “The Sooner We Get Rid Of Cars, The Better This Planet Will Be”…

    I know. It was Carter’s E.O. that banned reprocessing in the U.S.. Still waiting for a President to change that. (Not holding my breath…)


  156. heysoos
    157 | February 22, 2013 8:02 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    huh…I did not know that


  157. Da_Beerfreak
    158 | February 22, 2013 8:09 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    huh…I did not know that

    I don’t have the number of that E.O. handy, but it was signed by Carter with the purpose of stopping the spread of nuclear weapons. Some folks didn’t get the memo…


  158. brookly red
    159 | February 22, 2013 8:11 pm

    OT but I just coined a phrase … Califailure.

    I am not sure if it really original but it was spontaneous…


  159. darkwords
    160 | February 22, 2013 8:13 pm

    @ 58 The Osprey: I like the safe and responsible gun consciousness message versus the irresponsible Biden.


  160. brookly red
    161 | February 22, 2013 8:16 pm

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Of course, apparently I confused the stupid Democrats in MISSOURI with the stupid Democrats in WISCONSIN….

    /see that’s why we need big central gubermint


  161. heysoos
    162 | February 22, 2013 8:36 pm

    I’m a neanderthal…


  162. AZfederalist
    163 | February 22, 2013 9:52 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    I don’t have the number of that E.O. handy, but it was signed by Carter with the purpose of stopping the spread of nuclear weapons. Some folks didn’t get the memo…

    Because reprocessing spent fuel rods in the US leads to proliferation of nuclear weapons in the rest of the world. Yes, liberals really are this stupid — or at least they think we are.


  163. Speranza
    164 | February 23, 2013 5:57 am

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Speranza wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    The less said about Detroit the better (I guess).

    Nuke it from orbit, it’a the only way to be sure…

    and start all over.


  164. Speranza
    165 | February 23, 2013 5:58 am

    heysoos wrote:

    Detroit…
    I remember Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich, Sanders and Isaiah…I recall MoTown and Barry Gordy…I remember the packed courtyard to see Led Zep at Cobo, the Cream at the East Town, the Stones up at the Palace…the roar of watching the Detroit Grand Prix race right through downtown….watching Miss Budweiser and Allied Van Lines duke it out in the unlimited class on the river at 200mph…Detroit used to be a fine city even in my lifetime, and now it’s all gone

    Up until 1962 it actually was a pretty nice town.


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