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#Caturday: Every Cat Needs a Dog, Vol. I

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Filed under Caturday, Dog Day Afternoon, Open thread at February 23rd, 2013 - 4:01 pm

Cat & Dog 1

Cat & Dog 2

Cat & Dog 3

Cat & Dog 4

Cat & Dog 5

Cat & Dog 6


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308 Responses to “#Caturday: Every Cat Needs a Dog, Vol. I”
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  1. brookly red
    1 | February 23, 2013 4:08 pm

    Awwww cute pictures to look at while we trash O ;)


  2. Bumr50
    2 | February 23, 2013 4:11 pm


  3. lobo91
    3 | February 23, 2013 4:19 pm

    Those pictures show what’s going to happen if there’s a sequester…


  4. lobo91
    4 | February 23, 2013 4:22 pm


  5. yenta-fada
    5 | February 23, 2013 4:40 pm

    Definition of not cool

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hq-URl9F17Y


  6. heysoos
    6 | February 23, 2013 4:42 pm

    US helping the Muslim Brotherhood suppress Egyptian citizens….this is really fucked up, the nature of our foreign policy now…
    http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/egypt-imports-140000-teargas-canisters-us


  7. brookly red
    7 | February 23, 2013 4:48 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    US helping the Muslim Brotherhood suppress Egyptian citizens….this is really fucked up, the nature of our foreign policy now…
    http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/egypt-imports-140000-teargas-canisters-us

    well honestly are you surprised?


  8. RIX
    8 | February 23, 2013 4:48 pm

    @ heysoos:
    We used to support & sell things to Egypt because it was
    considered a bulwark against radical Islam.
    Now Egypt is radical Islam & Obama prefers that.


  9. heysoos
    9 | February 23, 2013 4:52 pm

    I don’t especially care who’s who, it’s bad form…and no I’m not surprised, it’s just a needless gesture that will piss more people off


  10. brookly red
    10 | February 23, 2013 4:53 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    We used to support & sell things to Egypt because it was
    considered a bulwark against radical Islam.
    Now Egypt is radical Islam & Obama prefers that.

    again are you surprised?


  11. brookly red
    11 | February 23, 2013 4:54 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I don’t especially care who’s who, it’s bad form…and no I’m not surprised, it’s just a needless gesture that will piss more people off

    well lets hope enough of those pissed off people vote in 2014.


  12. RIX
    12 | February 23, 2013 4:55 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    We used to support & sell things to Egypt because it was
    considered a bulwark against radical Islam.
    Now Egypt is radical Islam & Obama prefers that.

    again are you surprised?

    Not even a little.


  13. Lily
    13 | February 23, 2013 4:57 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Definition of not cool
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hq-URl9F17Y

    I swear that woman’s shoes never match what she is wearing and are always those ugly flats.
    /and yes that is a damn wig on her. For sure.


  14. Lily
    14 | February 23, 2013 4:58 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    US helping the Muslim Brotherhood suppress Egyptian citizens….this is really fucked up, the nature of our foreign policy now…
    http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/egypt-imports-140000-teargas-canisters-us
    well honestly are you surprised?

    It’s been messed up for some time. Really bad. Benghazi should have been a huge clue.


  15. brookly red
    15 | February 23, 2013 5:05 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    US helping the Muslim Brotherhood suppress Egyptian citizens….this is really fucked up, the nature of our foreign policy now…
    http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/egypt-imports-140000-teargas-canisters-us
    well honestly are you surprised?

    It’s been messed up for some time. Really bad. Benghazi should have been a huge clue.

    odd that O is now sending troops to Niger (calm down CJ that’s a country in Africa)to set up a drone base to support the French in Mali… http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-obama-drone-20130223,0,7202135.story?track=lat-email-topofthetimes… as I recall the Mail insurgents are AQ. This leads me to think that O actually supports the MB over the AQ. O supports the MB… Hmmmmm


  16. Lily
    16 | February 23, 2013 5:07 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Well when obama took the MB off the terrorist list …gave me a clue.
    /it’s just all messed up if you ask me.


  17. yenta-fada
    17 | February 23, 2013 5:08 pm

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Definition of not cool
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hq-URl9F17Y
    I swear that woman’s shoes never match what she is wearing and are always those ugly flats.
    /and yes that is a damn wig on her. For sure.

    One of the MOTUS commenters said that the bangs were 10 inches too short. No, it’s not racist to say that. It’s the ugly inside that’s the problem. That, and an utter failure of dignity as a role model to anyone who thinks leadership should inspire us to be better people.


  18. Moe Katz
    18 | February 23, 2013 5:10 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Now Egypt is radical Islam & Obama prefers that.

    Well, Egypt under the MB is taking a tougher stance with Hamas than Mubarak’s government. They’re flooding all the smuggling tunnels into Gaza. The Middle East is infinitely complicated.


  19. brookly red
    19 | February 23, 2013 5:10 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Definition of not cool
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Hq-URl9F17Y
    I swear that woman’s shoes never match what she is wearing and are always those ugly flats.
    /and yes that is a damn wig on her. For sure.

    One of the MOTUS commenters said that the bangs were 10 inches too short. No, it’s not racist to say that. It’s the ugly inside that’s the problem. That, and an utter failure of dignity as a role model to anyone who thinks leadership should inspire us to be better people.

    well the wig hat speaks volumes about her own self esteem


  20. Lily
    20 | February 23, 2013 5:13 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    What I don’t understand is why not a better wig? One that you can’t tell if it is one or not. The obama’s dislike our country so much…it’s not so much that I’m dissing her shoes or her hair…the woman doesn’t like our country. I’d have more respect for her if she would have some for our country. Instead she spends our money like no tomorrow on herself and her vacations.


  21. brookly red
    21 | February 23, 2013 5:16 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Now Egypt is radical Islam & Obama prefers that.

    Well, Egypt under the MB is taking a tougher stance with Hamas than Mubarak’s government. They’re flooding all the smuggling tunnels into Gaza. The Middle East is infinitely complicated.

    Not really, they all want to be in power…


  22. lobo91
    22 | February 23, 2013 5:16 pm

    Obama’s latest Twitter campaign: “They Deserve a Vote”, using shooting victims as props.

    I guess the 80 million or so legal gun owners in America don’t deserve a vote.


  23. brookly red
    23 | February 23, 2013 5:18 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I guess the 80 million or so legal gun owners in America don’t deserve a vote.

    I am hoping it doesn’t come to that.


  24. 24 | February 23, 2013 5:19 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    What I don’t understand is why not a better wig? One that you can’t tell if it is one or not. The obama’s dislike our country so much…it’s not so much that I’m dissing her shoes or her hair…the woman doesn’t like our country. I’d have more respect for her if she would have some for our country. Instead she spends our money like no tomorrow on herself and her vacations.

    PLEASE, consider the source! It is supposed to be satire from start to finish!


  25. 25 | February 23, 2013 5:20 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Obama’s latest Twitter campaign: “They Deserve a Vote”, using shooting victims as props.
    I guess the 80 million or so legal gun owners in America don’t deserve a vote.

    Well, if JEF has a choice we don’t!


  26. Moe Katz
    26 | February 23, 2013 5:21 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Not really, they all want to be in power…

    Realpolitik usually trumps religious ideology….


  27. lobo91
    27 | February 23, 2013 5:22 pm

    @ AZOlddog:

    Our vote comes later.


  28. brookly red
    28 | February 23, 2013 5:24 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    Not really, they all want to be in power…

    Realpolitik usually trumps religious ideology….

    And Realpolitik comes from real guns.


  29. Lily
    29 | February 23, 2013 5:24 pm

    @ AZOlddog:

    The video? Of course I know that. But she has been wearing those flat shoes that do not match her clothes for a while now. And she has recently changed her hairstyle and I do believe she has gone to a wig on her new hairstyle. As far as the dancing and what not I didn’t say a thing that was for the show. I have seen other pictures of Michelle when not doing satire and she really wears those types of shows a lot.
    /yes I am a shoe person.


  30. lobo91
    30 | February 23, 2013 5:24 pm

    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear

    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…


  31. yenta-fada
    31 | February 23, 2013 5:24 pm

    @ Lily:

    Michelle’s Mirror exists as a blog to mock the FLOTUS. It used to be more fun before Zero was re-elected. So many people are just depressed that the U.S. was a casualty of that election.


  32. brookly red
    32 | February 23, 2013 5:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ AZOlddog:

    Our vote comes later.

    he who votes last votes best LOL


  33. Lily
    33 | February 23, 2013 5:25 pm

    @ Lily:

    shows should be SHOES
    /darn keyboard


  34. Moe Katz
    34 | February 23, 2013 5:26 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    And Realpolitik comes from real guns

    Yep. Back to Chuck Colson’s most famous dictum about having them by the balls so their hearts and minds will follow.


  35. Lily
    35 | February 23, 2013 5:27 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Michelle’s Mirror exists as a blog to mock the FLOTUS. It used to be more fun before Zero was re-elected. So many people are just depressed that the U.S. was a casualty of that election.

    Oh I know. I must have come across wrong in my orginal post there.


  36. brookly red
    36 | February 23, 2013 5:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear

    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…

    re: “I froze,” he recalled. “I thought the only person up there was my grandson. Then I realized he wasn’t dressed like that.”

    most bears don’t wear cloths


  37. brookly red
    37 | February 23, 2013 5:29 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    And Realpolitik comes from real guns

    Yep. Back to Chuck Colson’s most famous dictum about having them by the balls so their hearts and minds will follow.

    I was thinking Mao, but yes that too


  38. Moe Katz
    38 | February 23, 2013 5:30 pm

    @ brookly red:
    The Mao would be apt also.


  39. lobo91
    39 | February 23, 2013 5:30 pm

    @ brookly red:

    re: “I froze,” he recalled. “I thought the only person up there was my grandson. Then I realized he wasn’t dressed like that.”

    most bears don’t wear cloths

    I know someone who had a horse shot out from under him during deer season once.

    If you can’t tell a horse from a deer, you shouldn’t be hunting.

    Especially when there’s someone riding it…


  40. brookly red
    40 | February 23, 2013 5:31 pm

    Lily wrote:

    /yes I am a shoe person.

    most serial thread killers are…

    Oh am I profiling? My bad.


  41. lobo91
    41 | February 23, 2013 5:32 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I was thinking Mao, but yes that too

    Mao…Anita Dunn…Van Jones…Bill Ayers…

    //So many Communists…so little time


  42. brookly red
    42 | February 23, 2013 5:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    re: “I froze,” he recalled. “I thought the only person up there was my grandson. Then I realized he wasn’t dressed like that.”

    most bears don’t wear cloths

    I know someone who had a horse shot out from under him during deer season once.

    If you can’t tell a horse from a deer, you shouldn’t be hunting.

    Especially when there’s someone riding it…

    it’s fun driving through up state NY and seeing cows with the word COW spray painted in orange on their sides…


  43. Lily
    43 | February 23, 2013 5:34 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    re: “I froze,” he recalled. “I thought the only person up there was my grandson. Then I realized he wasn’t dressed like that.”
    most bears don’t wear cloths

    He acknowledged that there were clothes on the bear and his grandson wasn’t dressed like that…did he realize that bears do not wear clothes?


  44. brookly red
    44 | February 23, 2013 5:35 pm

    Lily wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    re: “I froze,” he recalled. “I thought the only person up there was my grandson. Then I realized he wasn’t dressed like that.”
    most bears don’t wear cloths

    He acknowledged that there were clothes on the bear and his grandson wasn’t dressed like that…did he realize that bears do not wear clothes?

    /OMG he shot the dude cause he didn’t like his SHOES !11!!1


  45. lobo91
    45 | February 23, 2013 5:38 pm

    @ Lily:

    He acknowledged that there were clothes on the bear and his grandson wasn’t dressed like that…did he realize that bears do not wear clothes?

    Cartoon bears do


  46. Lily
    46 | February 23, 2013 5:39 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    /yes I am a shoe person.
    most serial thread killers are…
    Oh am I profiling? My bad.

    LOL! Oh no you did not go there.
    /although I did buy several pairs of shoes this past week to help me heal from being sick. And this is just for you… 8-)


  47. lobo91
    47 | February 23, 2013 5:39 pm

    @ Lily:

    And then there was the time Ellen Mae shot the Judge Executive while he was wearing a bear costume…


  48. Bumr50
    48 | February 23, 2013 5:40 pm

    @ lobo91:

    If it would’ve been my horse (ages 10-24) while I was deer hunting, I’d be strongly tempted to shoot HIM and say that I thought he was a deer.

    I probably wouldn’t have.

    We dressed both of our horses in orange all season, and kept them in on “busy” days, as we lived in a relatively well hunted area.

    I currently live in the burbs in an apartment complex at the top of a pretty steep wooded hillside.

    There are about 150 yards separating the back of my complex from the road, and it’s STEEP. My unit faces this hillside, and my deck overlooks it.

    I smoke out there, and one morning while I was out smoking there were two hunters strolling down the hill.

    This isn’t REALLY hunting mind you, as at least three of my elderly neighbors have downstairs units and feed every freaking woodland creature that comes their way. If it snows, the prints look like a freeway on the little patch of grass between the complex and the ravine.

    They were bowhunting, and no sh*t the one was teaching the other how to use his bow WHILE they were out hunting.

    There are children in my complex.

    I regret not calling the game commission, but if these jagoffs had permission, I’m not sure what could be done.


  49. brookly red
    49 | February 23, 2013 5:45 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    If it would’ve been my horse (ages 10-24) while I was deer hunting, I’d be strongly tempted to shoot HIM and say that I thought he was a deer.

    well if he shot your horse it’s reasonable to assume he was shooting at YOU


  50. yenta-fada
    50 | February 23, 2013 5:45 pm

    A cat’s motto is ‘no matter what you’ve done wrong, always make it look like the dog did it.’

    http://thinkexist.com/quotation/cat-s_motto-no_matter_what_you-ve_done_wrong/158214.html


  51. Lily
    51 | February 23, 2013 5:46 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    re: “I froze,” he recalled. “I thought the only person up there was my grandson. Then I realized he wasn’t dressed like that.”
    most bears don’t wear cloths
    He acknowledged that there were clothes on the bear and his grandson wasn’t dressed like that…did he realize that bears do not wear clothes?
    /OMG he shot the dude cause he didn’t like his SHOES !11!!1

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Oooooooooooooooooooooooh treading on thin ice …. dude I ordered motorcycle boots..not just those little booties..these babies will kick a$$. Mark my word. 8-)


  52. heysoos
    52 | February 23, 2013 5:47 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    @ Bumr50:
    gotta wear orange in MI fro Aug all the way to April…all game or trapping with any weapon…anybody that wouldn’t must have a death wish


  53. Lily
    53 | February 23, 2013 5:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    He acknowledged that there were clothes on the bear and his grandson wasn’t dressed like that…did he realize that bears do not wear clothes?
    Cartoon bears do

    Dear heavens you are right. I noticed the age of the man and probably eye-sight problems….


  54. Lily
    54 | February 23, 2013 5:49 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    And then there was the time Ellen Mae shot the Judge Executive while he was wearing a bear costume…

    Would that be considered a furrie crime??
    /was there shoes involved?


  55. Bumr50
    55 | February 23, 2013 5:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    well if he shot your horse it’s reasonable to assume he was shooting at YOU

    Horses get shot being mistaken for deer every year.

    I’d never go riding in my locality during deer season.

    I had a Palomino Quarter Horse mare, and she was a bad color for that.


  56. lobo91
    56 | February 23, 2013 5:52 pm

    Lily wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ Lily:
    And then there was the time Ellen Mae shot the Judge Executive while he was wearing a bear costume…
    Would that be considered a furrie crime??
    /was there shoes involved?

    You didn’t see that? It was early in this season on Justified.

    Ava’s reaction was classic: “What’s he gonna do, tell people he got shot while wearing a bear suit in a whorehouse?”

    She had a point…


  57. lobo91
    57 | February 23, 2013 5:53 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    I could maybe see it if it was a brown horse standing around in the woods someplace, but while someone’s riding it?

    People don’t usually ride deer.


  58. Lily
    58 | February 23, 2013 5:55 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Oh dammit…yes now I remember…it was a furrie shooting!
    /no shoes involved.
    *slaps forehead* Wasn’t thinking about Justified…. yeah keep it on the down low about being shot in a furrie suit.


  59. Lily
    59 | February 23, 2013 5:56 pm

    @ Lily:

    Ella Mae….


  60. brookly red
    60 | February 23, 2013 5:58 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ Lily:
    And then there was the time Ellen Mae shot the Judge Executive while he was wearing a bear costume…
    Would that be considered a furrie crime??
    /was there shoes involved?

    You didn’t see that? It was early in this season on Justified.

    Ava’s reaction was classic: “What’s he gonna do, tell people he got shot while wearing a bear suit in a whorehouse?”

    She had a point…

    Robert Menendez might try it.


  61. lobo91
    61 | February 23, 2013 5:59 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Robert Menendez might try it.

    The character was probably based on him.


  62. Guggi
    62 | February 23, 2013 5:59 pm

    To Block Gaza Tunnels, Egypt Lets Sewage Flow

    The Egyptian military is resorting to a pungent new tactic to shut down the smuggling tunnels connecting Sinai and Gaza: flooding them with sewage. Along with the stink, the approach is raising new questions about relations between Egypt’s new Islamist leaders and their ideological allies in Hamas who control the Gaza Strip. “Awful,” said Abu Mutair Shalouf, 35, a Palestinian smuggler on the Gaza side, watching workers haul buckets of sewage-soaked soil from the shaft of a tunnel flooded by the Egyptian military 15 days ago. “I don’t know why they did this.”


  63. lobo91
    63 | February 23, 2013 6:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Ella Mae….

    I’m kind of surprised she’s survived this long.

    Not the sharpest knife in the drawer…or whorehouse.


  64. 64 | February 23, 2013 6:01 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ AZOlddog:
    The video? Of course I know that. But she has been wearing those flat shoes that do not match her clothes for a while now. And she has recently changed her hairstyle and I do believe she has gone to a wig on her new hairstyle. As far as the dancing and what not I didn’t say a thing that was for the show. I have seen other pictures of Michelle when not doing satire and she really wears those types of shows a lot.

    /yes I am a shoe person.

    Are you sure you are not the Grammar Czar from over on the Rott?

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ AZOlddog:
    Our vote comes later.

    Yep, and I damn sure intend to be one of the LAST to vote! :)


  65. Bumr50
    65 | February 23, 2013 6:02 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I had a neighbor that said he jumped on the back of a whitetail buck and killed it with a hard knife to the throat.

    He had been a guide up in Maine for 8 years, and had a Jeep cj-5 with a crazy big engine dropped in it that was trying to sell because of all the kids, but he wouldn’t sell to any of the local teenagers for fear of them killing themselves in it.

    Not sure whether I believe him or not, but I’ve known him for 15 years, I’ve seen him take lots of fish and game, and he’d never been a b*llsh*tter about anything. Even when inebriated.


  66. Lily
    66 | February 23, 2013 6:24 pm

    @ AZOlddog:

    Promise you I’m not….my keyboard makes me look like a fool daily. ;)


  67. Lily
    67 | February 23, 2013 6:25 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Yeah and she knows too much and Boyd isn’t all in favor of her keeping breathing.


  68. lobo91
    68 | February 23, 2013 6:32 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Yeah and she knows too much and Boyd isn’t all in favor of her keeping breathing.

    Boyd and Ava think she’s dead already.

    Johnny knows better, though.

    Should be interesting.


  69. Lily
    69 | February 23, 2013 6:38 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Indeed.


  70. Moe Katz
    70 | February 23, 2013 7:14 pm

    Linda Ronstadt assisted by Emmylou Harris on Hank’s classic.


  71. Moe Katz
    71 | February 23, 2013 7:18 pm

    A generation earlier, Hank himself with Anita Carter.


  72. 72 | February 23, 2013 7:23 pm

    When I was a kid, we had a little West Highland Terrier. We adopted a kitten, and the dog became like a mother to him. Mom could put the dog out early in the morning, say ‘Go find Toby’, and after a bit, there’d be a scratching at the door, and both dog & cat would come in.


  73. heysoos
    73 | February 23, 2013 7:35 pm

    one for the oldsters…mosh on


  74. lobo91
    74 | February 23, 2013 7:43 pm

    Wow…this is a stretch, even for Democrats:

    CNN: Chicago’s War Zone-Like Gun Violence The Republican Party’s Fault…

    President Barack Obama’s adopted hometown of Chicago hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1927, but in the eyes of CNN regular and Democratic strategist Robert Zimmerman, the rampant violence currently plaguing the city is the fault of the Republican Party.

    On Friday’s broadcast of “CNN Newsroom,” Zimmerman, Politics 365 contributor Jason Johnson and CNN contributor Ana Navarro were discussing a joint effort by former NBA star Isiah Thomas and Democratic Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel to curb the city’s gang violence, when Zimmerman shifted the focus to congressional Republicans.

    “[L]et’s be very clear about what’s happening in Washington today, and why it’s undermining the city of Chicago — because there’s a mindset now in our government, in Washington, from the Republican members of Congress, that sequestration is an acceptable way of doing business, that we can in fact engage in these massive irresponsible cuts that no one thinks is a logical approach to budgeting,” Zimmerman said. “And that undermines law enforcement in our cities; it undermines so many education opportunities for our younger people and it does in fact create an impoverished class of our society that leads to abuse, leads to violence and leads to more Chicagos.”

    So…the gang violence in Chicago, which has been rampant for decades, is the result of the sequester--which hasn’t even happened yet--and which was the brainchild of Obama--which makes it the fault of Republicans.

    Wow.

    That logic deserves some sort of award.


  75. heysoos
    75 | February 23, 2013 7:44 pm

    @ mfhorn:
    I had a big, bad ass man eating Shepherd…extremely smart and well behaved…my little barn cat kitten would pounce on him while was dozing, chew his ears, cling to his fur…he’d bounce up and look around with this wild ass kitten hanging off him, his dignity in the toilet….they were very close for many years


  76. Bumr50
    76 | February 23, 2013 7:45 pm

    @ lobo91:

    We are Public Enemy No. 1.


  77. heysoos
    77 | February 23, 2013 7:46 pm

    @ lobo91:
    brown acid


  78. lobo91
    78 | February 23, 2013 7:48 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    We are Public Enemy No. 1.

    Even Leia would look at me like I was on drugs if I said something that utterly stupid.


  79. heysoos
    79 | February 23, 2013 7:51 pm

    there is only one Robert Zimmerman…all others are fakes, so beware


  80. Bumr50
    80 | February 23, 2013 7:54 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I meant as conservatives. To the Progs. In government, the media, education, and labor.

    Leia can look at me funny.

    Bailey does it all the time!

    ;-)


  81. The Osprey
    81 | February 23, 2013 7:56 pm

    @ lobo91:

    The stupid, it burns! :mad:


  82. lobo91
    82 | February 23, 2013 7:56 pm

    Now that they’re on their way to gutting the Second Amendment, looks like they plan to go after the First.

    Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill

    A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.

    The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”


  83. lobo91
    83 | February 23, 2013 7:57 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    I knew what you meant.

    I meant she would do that if I said something as stupid as that guy on CNN did.


  84. The Osprey
    84 | February 23, 2013 8:02 pm

    @ lobo91:

    To reduce it to one sentence: “It’s all YT’s fault!”


  85. darkwords
    85 | February 23, 2013 8:02 pm

    The only type of gun control legislation I would be in favor of would be denying gun rights to registered Democrats. That might solve half or more of the issues hysterical gun control nuts want to tackle. If they are that serious about it I’m sure both sides of the aisle can agree.


  86. Bumr50
    86 | February 23, 2013 8:04 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Amen.


  87. lobo91
    87 | February 23, 2013 8:04 pm

    I’m fairly certain that 9/11 was caused by the sequester. So was the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

    Not sure yet about the Civil War, but it’s likely.


  88. darkwords
    88 | February 23, 2013 8:04 pm

    @ 82 lobo91: Someone hurt his feelings online so he feels the need to legislate his personality. Sounds a lot like CJ.


  89. The Osprey
    89 | February 23, 2013 8:04 pm

    I thank God I live in Arizona and not Chicago.


  90. darkwords
    90 | February 23, 2013 8:06 pm

    Facebook page -- comrades turn your arms in.


  91. lobo91
    91 | February 23, 2013 8:06 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    I thank God I live in Arizona and not Chicago.

    I used to say that about Colorado, but not anymore.


  92. heysoos
    92 | February 23, 2013 8:08 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    and I live in New Mexico…private Space Capitol Of The World, complete with lots of odd beings wandering around


  93. heysoos
    93 | February 23, 2013 8:14 pm

    we take aliens and space travel pretty serious in New Mexico…it’s coming
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America


  94. brookly red
    94 | February 23, 2013 8:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’m fairly certain that 9/11 was caused by the sequester. So was the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

    Not sure yet about the Civil War, but it’s likely.

    I actually see sequester in a positive light… think Exodus. Moses sequestered the Red Sea and led the taxpayers across. The government workers attempted to follow and well, the rest you know.


  95. brookly red
    95 | February 23, 2013 8:26 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    I thank God I live in Arizona and not Chicago.

    I used to say that about Colorado, but not anymore.

    see, Califailure is an infectious disease


  96. brookly red
    96 | February 23, 2013 8:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Now that they’re on their way to gutting the Second Amendment, looks like they plan to go after the First.

    Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill

    A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.

    The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”

    so websites like manufacturing jobs will simply move over seas… actually I think CJ will like North Korea.


  97. lobo91
    97 | February 23, 2013 8:35 pm

    @ brookly red:

    They’d probably like to get rid of the Third Amendment, too.

    With the defense budget cuts, quartering troops in people’s homes probably sounds like a good idea to them.


  98. heysoos
    98 | February 23, 2013 8:43 pm

    @ brookly red:
    you have the imagination of a ten year old


  99. Alberta Oil Peon
    99 | February 23, 2013 8:44 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Now Egypt is radical Islam & Obama prefers that.
    Well, Egypt under the MB is taking a tougher stance with Hamas than Mubarak’s government. They’re flooding all the smuggling tunnels into Gaza. The Middle East is infinitely complicated.

    Well, I’m sure that the MoBros are doing this for reasons of their own, and not out of any consideration for the welfare of Israel.


  100. brookly red
    100 | February 23, 2013 8:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    They’d probably like to get rid of the Third Amendment, too.

    With the defense budget cuts, quartering troops in people’s homes probably sounds like a good idea to them.

    OK by me we can fit a whole Company in Pelosie’s house… maybe 2 in Gore’s…


  101. Alberta Oil Peon
    101 | February 23, 2013 8:49 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…

    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.

    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.


  102. heysoos
    102 | February 23, 2013 8:51 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…

    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.
    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.

    he fucked up, it was an accident…no need to pile on, his life is gonna be miserable forever as it is


  103. The Osprey
    103 | February 23, 2013 8:52 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    we take aliens and space travel pretty serious in New Mexico…it’s coming
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America

    Well, Taos is where the Hippie Hat Brain parasite landed…. :lol:


  104. Moe Katz
    104 | February 23, 2013 8:54 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    Well, I’m sure that the MoBros are doing this for reasons of their own, and not out of any consideration for the welfare of Israel.

    Of course. For one thing, American aid money -- the Egyptian economy is a basket case and without the aid Morsi’s regime is toast.


  105. The Osprey
    105 | February 23, 2013 8:55 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    and I live in New Mexico…private Space Capitol Of The World, complete with lots of odd beings wandering around

    If you’re in a roadside diner in Taos and someone has left one of those floppy 70′s leather hats on the counter..FOR GOD’S SAKE MAN, DON’T PUT IT ON! :lol:


  106. brookly red
    106 | February 23, 2013 8:55 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…

    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.
    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.

    he fucked up, it was an accident…no need to pile on, his life is gonna be miserable forever as it is

    shooting is not driving. he had time to make a responsible choice, the target did not just pop up and was not a threat to him.


  107. heysoos
    107 | February 23, 2013 8:56 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    we take aliens and space travel pretty serious in New Mexico…it’s coming
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America

    Well, Taos is where the Hippie Hat Brain parasite landed….

    and seems to flourish…I like Taos, anybody would…mighty pretty up there…I don’t travel according to politics, and I have to take all my tourists to Santa Fe (lib hell)…but most of New Mexico is pretty conservative and only mildly interested in politics


  108. darkwords
    108 | February 23, 2013 8:56 pm

    @ 103 The Osprey: ABQ is laid back, the TSA gives neck rubs instead of pat downs.


  109. heysoos
    109 | February 23, 2013 8:57 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.
    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.
    he fucked up, it was an accident…no need to pile on, his life is gonna be miserable forever as it is

    shooting is not driving. he had time to make a responsible choice, the target did not just pop up and was not a threat to him.

    so?…you want to execute him?


  110. brookly red
    110 | February 23, 2013 8:58 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.
    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.
    he fucked up, it was an accident…no need to pile on, his life is gonna be miserable forever as it is

    shooting is not driving. he had time to make a responsible choice, the target did not just pop up and was not a threat to him.

    so?…you want to execute him?

    no I want him to live with you for 5 years.


  111. Alberta Oil Peon
    111 | February 23, 2013 8:58 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.
    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.

    he fucked up, it was an accident…no need to pile on, his life is gonna be miserable forever as it is

    No doubt. But he fucked up by not observing the most basic safety rule of all: be sure of your target before firing a round. It’s negligence, not an accident. I hope Ochoa’s family sue him into the poorhouse.


  112. heysoos
    112 | February 23, 2013 8:58 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 103 The Osprey: ABQ is laid back, the TSA gives neck rubs instead of pat downs.

    the sweetest mid sized sun port in the country…it’s hard to find any fault with our airport, everybody loves the place


  113. heysoos
    113 | February 23, 2013 9:00 pm

    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    Hunter acquitted of killing man mistaken for bear
    And the guy wasn’t even in his bathroom…
    I find it difficult to see why they acquitted. When you are hunting, are you not supposed to sure of your target before firing? The guy had his sights on “something” for 3 whole seconds at a hundred yards distance.
    Of course maybe California bears dress in Woodland camo.
    he fucked up, it was an accident…no need to pile on, his life is gonna be miserable forever as it is

    No doubt. But he fucked up by not observing the most basic safety rule of all: be sure of your target before firing a round. It’s negligence, not an accident. I hope Ochoa’s family sue him into the poorhouse.

    whatever, I’m not the vengeful type…so toss the old fucker in jail, what does that prove?


  114. The Osprey
    114 | February 23, 2013 9:04 pm

    @ heysoos:

    All joking about alien parasites in hippie hats aside, I like New Mexico. I had a great time there in summer 2009 when I drove to Whittington Center for FAL Fest.


  115. AZfederalist
    115 | February 23, 2013 9:11 pm

    @ Lily:

    All sorts of slobbering and fawning over her when you read the comments. For the first time in my life, I am ashamed of my country.


  116. heysoos
    116 | February 23, 2013 9:12 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    All joking about alien parasites in hippie hats aside, I like New Mexico. I had a great time there in summer 2009 when I drove to Whittington Center for FAL Fest.

    good for you…it’s an unusual state, very desolate and not for everyone…5th biggest state with only about 2m people living here….there is a profound sense of do it yourself down here…it takes a pretty tough guy and his mate to live out in the open like this, miles from nowhere…911 is meaningless…the liquor store is 40mi away…don’t come down here with all your slippery politics and claims of racism, gerrymandering, east coast bitch fests and tv talking heads…we may be ignorant but only because we are busy feeding ourselves…people that instinctively dismiss us in the deep southwest need not come calling for your campaign handout…we’ll survive with or without the rest of you


  117. lobo91
    117 | February 23, 2013 9:12 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    No doubt. But he fucked up by not observing the most basic safety rule of all: be sure of your target before firing a round. It’s negligence, not an accident. I hope Ochoa’s family sue him into the poorhouse.

    I agree. He’s lucky he’s not in prison. It’s definitely negligent homicide.

    It would be an accident if he’d tripped over a rock and fired a shot that hit someone. When you aim and pull the trigger, that’s negligence.


  118. Alberta Oil Peon
    118 | February 23, 2013 9:15 pm

    whatever, I’m not the vengeful type…so toss the old fucker in jail, what does that prove?

    It proves that firearms safety is serious business. Stupid stunts like this are exactly the sort of thing that the gun-grabbers seize upon to show that we proles cannot be trusted with guns.


  119. lobo91
    119 | February 23, 2013 9:17 pm

    Bipartisan Group Of Senators On Verge Of A Deal To Expand Background Checks

    A bipartisan group of senators is on the verge of a deal that would expand background checks to all private firearms sales with limited exemptions, but significant disagreements remain on the issue of keeping records of private gun sales, according to aides familiar with the talks. An agreement would be a bold first step toward consideration of legislation to limit gun violence in the wake of the mass shooting at a Connecticut elementary school in December and comes as the Senate Judiciary Committee is expected this week to begin considering new proposals to limit gun violence.

    The talks, led by two Democrats and two Republicans, are expected to earn more GOP support in the coming days and likely enough to move the bill through the Senate, according to senior aides of both parties who were not authorized to speak publicly on the matter. “These negotiations are challenging, as you’d expect on an issue as complicated as guns,” the chief negotiator, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. “But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith. We are all serious about wanting to get something done, and we are going to keep trying.” Resolution of whether to keep records of private sales is key to earning the support of one of the Republicans involved in the talks, Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, who has a solid A-rating from the influential National Rifle Association and could provide political cover for lawmakers of both parties who are wary of supporting the plan.

    Any Republican who votes for this shit needs to be primaried.


  120. lobo91
    120 | February 23, 2013 9:18 pm

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:

    It proves that firearms safety is serious business. Stupid stunts like this are exactly the sort of thing that the gun-grabbers seize upon to show that we proles cannot be trusted with guns.

    And what about the victim’s family? Oops…sorry?


  121. AZfederalist
    121 | February 23, 2013 9:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Wow.

    That logic deserves some sort of award

    How about the “Golden Excedrin Bottle Quote of the Day Award”? Because liberal [il]logic like that makes my head hurt.


  122. heysoos
    122 | February 23, 2013 9:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Alberta Oil Peon:
    It proves that firearms safety is serious business. Stupid stunts like this are exactly the sort of thing that the gun-grabbers seize upon to show that we proles cannot be trusted with guns.
    And what about the victim’s family? Oops…sorry?

    what about them?, you didn’t say…so pound the guy into mush, kill him or jail him forever…does that make you happy?…what will satisfy you?


  123. eaglesoars
    123 | February 23, 2013 9:24 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    It would be an accident if he’d tripped over a rock and fired a shot that hit someone. When you aim and pull the trigger, that’s negligence.

    Several years ago our cunty supervisors killed the funding used to hire professional hunters to cull the deer population. The deer population exploded. What feeds on deer (besides humans)?

    coyote.

    We were infested. So the supervisors allowed just about anyone to hunt the deer -- they got to keep the venison.

    There were way too many horses shot by accident. This is Virginia -- Hunt Country. Had to bring back the professional hunters.


  124. Bumr50
    124 | February 23, 2013 9:25 pm

    @ heysoos:

    5 year sentence.

    Opportunity for parole at a normal interval.


  125. brookly red
    125 | February 23, 2013 9:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. “But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith.

    if you say Schumer and good faith in front of a mirror 3 times a demon will appear and give you a free iPhone.


  126. brookly red
    126 | February 23, 2013 9:28 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    cunty supervisors

    cunty supervisors?!11! I nominate for typo of the year


  127. heysoos
    127 | February 23, 2013 9:29 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    game needs to be managed, that’s why for a hundred years other states have studied Michigan’s long time practice of management and licensing…if you don’t cull deer they will easily destroy themselves in no more than a couple of seasons…you simply have to kill them for their own good


  128. AZfederalist
    128 | February 23, 2013 9:29 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”

    Kind of hard to see how a state senator is going to get a law with international consequences to hold water passed in Illinois.

    Our founders were kind of big on anonymity. Seems a few of them wrote under pen names for quite a while. Publius, for example.

    We are entering a time and age where anonymity is going to be important again. We will all be John Galt.


  129. brookly red
    129 | February 23, 2013 9:31 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    you simply have to kill them for their own good

    /I know some people like that too


  130. eaglesoars
    130 | February 23, 2013 9:31 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    cunty supervisors?!11! I nominate for typo of the year

    And it’s only February!!


  131. AZfederalist
    131 | February 23, 2013 9:31 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I’m fairly certain that 9/11 was caused by the sequester. So was the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

    Dang! I’d been told it was global warming that caused all that stuff. Or was it George W. Bush? These libs have got to make up their minds! I’m so confused!


  132. brookly red
    132 | February 23, 2013 9:33 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    cunty supervisors?!11! I nominate for typo of the year

    And it’s only February!!

    but that was a hall of fame-er for sure.


  133. eaglesoars
    133 | February 23, 2013 9:35 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    if you don’t cull deer they will easily destroy themselves in no more than a couple of seasons…

    I know deer can be awful pests, but having coyotes in the front yard at 7:30 in the morning REALLY freaked me out


  134. lobo91
    134 | February 23, 2013 9:36 pm

    @ heysoos:

    what about them?, you didn’t say…so pound the guy into mush, kill him or jail him forever…does that make you happy?…what will satisfy you?

    Sounds better than your plan, which apparently is to let people off for shooting random strangers as long as they claim stupidity as a defense.


  135. lobo91
    135 | February 23, 2013 9:37 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    if you don’t cull deer they will easily destroy themselves in no more than a couple of seasons…
    I know deer can be awful pests, but having coyotes in the front yard at 7:30 in the morning REALLY freaked me out

    If there are too many coyotes, they could bring in some tigers to get rid of them…


  136. brookly red
    136 | February 23, 2013 9:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Sounds better than your plan, which apparently is to let people off for shooting random strangers as long as they claim stupidity as a defense.

    Joe Biden, agent 003.5 licence to kill…


  137. 137 | February 23, 2013 9:39 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Obama’s latest Twitter campaign: “They Deserve a Vote”, using shooting victims as props.
    I guess the 80 million or so legal gun owners in America don’t deserve a vote.

    He knows which party dead people vote for.

    The Osprey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    @ The Osprey:
    and I live in New Mexico…private Space Capitol Of The World, complete with lots of odd beings wandering around

    If you’re in a roadside diner in Taos and someone has left one of those floppy 70′s leather hats on the counter..FOR GOD’S SAKE MAN, DON’T PUT IT ON!

    Head lice?

    lobo91 wrote:

    Now that they’re on their way to gutting the Second Amendment, looks like they plan to go after the First.
    Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill
    A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.
    The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”

    Since when does a state legislature have any say over this?


  138. lobo91
    138 | February 23, 2013 9:40 pm

    Ted Cruz Not Backing Down: Yes, Harvard Law’s Faculty Is Infested With Marxists…

    I still think it’s interesting that the only objection to his claim seems to be that it was somehow rude or something. Nobody’s actually arguing that he’s wrong.


  139. AZfederalist
    139 | February 23, 2013 9:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Any Republican who votes for this shit needs to be primaried.

    Amen.

    My money is on McLame, Grahamnasty, and McConnell all gushing about how “common sense” and practical this is. Frickin’ RINOs.


  140. brookly red
    140 | February 23, 2013 9:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    if you don’t cull deer they will easily destroy themselves in no more than a couple of seasons…
    I know deer can be awful pests, but having coyotes in the front yard at 7:30 in the morning REALLY freaked me out

    If there are too many coyotes, they could bring in some tigers to get rid of them…

    I was thinking land mines… tigers might be better


  141. 141 | February 23, 2013 9:41 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Sounds better than your plan, which apparently is to let people off for shooting random strangers as long as they claim stupidity as a defense.
    Joe Biden, agent 003.5 licence to kill…

    LOL!

    lobo91 wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    if you don’t cull deer they will easily destroy themselves in no more than a couple of seasons…
    I know deer can be awful pests, but having coyotes in the front yard at 7:30 in the morning REALLY freaked me out
    If there are too many coyotes, they could bring in some tigers to get rid of them…

    Coyotes are EVERYWHERE. You don’t usually notice them because they’re sneaky. But they’ve shown up on webcams in Chicago.

    brookly red wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    cunty supervisors
    cunty supervisors?!11! I nominate for typo of the year

    YEP!


  142. brookly red
    142 | February 23, 2013 9:42 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Obama’s latest Twitter campaign: “They Deserve a Vote”, using shooting victims as props.
    I guess the 80 million or so legal gun owners in America don’t deserve a vote.

    He knows which party dead people vote for.

    The Osprey wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    @ The Osprey:
    and I live in New Mexico…private Space Capitol Of The World, complete with lots of odd beings wandering around

    If you’re in a roadside diner in Taos and someone has left one of those floppy 70′s leather hats on the counter..FOR GOD’S SAKE MAN, DON’T PUT IT ON!

    Head lice?

    lobo91 wrote:

    Now that they’re on their way to gutting the Second Amendment, looks like they plan to go after the First.
    Illinois state senator pushes anti-anonymity bill
    A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.
    The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”

    Since when does a state legislature have any say over this?

    since obama is god


  143. lobo91
    143 | February 23, 2013 9:42 pm

    @ 1389AD:

    Since when does a state legislature have any say over this?

    When have technicalities like that stopped them?


  144. lobo91
    144 | February 23, 2013 9:43 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I was thinking land mines… tigers might be better

    Land mines are too noisy


  145. 145 | February 23, 2013 9:44 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    game needs to be managed, that’s why for a hundred years other states have studied Michigan’s long time practice of management and licensing…if you don’t cull deer they will easily destroy themselves in no more than a couple of seasons…you simply have to kill them for their own good

    It’s da Second Week of Deer Camp
    An’ all da guys are here!
    We drink, play cards, an’ shoot da bull
    But never shoot no deer!


  146. heysoos
    146 | February 23, 2013 9:44 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    what about them?, you didn’t say…so pound the guy into mush, kill him or jail him forever…does that make you happy?…what will satisfy you?
    Sounds better than your plan, which apparently is to let people off for shooting random strangers as long as they claim stupidity as a defense.

    so you think this man should die?…your tiresome gun bravado inevitably hits a brick wall…are you perfect?…just admit it, say “yes, I’m perfect”


  147. eaglesoars
    147 | February 23, 2013 9:50 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    You don’t usually notice them because they’re sneaky

    Well, that season they were quite bold. In my yard, breaking cover from the woods, eyeing my dog when I walked her. I didn’t walk the dog w/o my weapon on me for one solid year. Nervewracking.


  148. Calo
    148 | February 23, 2013 9:53 pm

    It must be Saturday night tonight. :roll:


  149. heysoos
    149 | February 23, 2013 9:54 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    You don’t usually notice them because they’re sneaky
    Well, that season they were quite bold. In my yard, breaking cover from the woods, eyeing my dog when I walked her. I didn’t walk the dog w/o my weapon on me for one solid year. Nervewracking.

    coyotes are opportunistic…scare them away is usually enough, they won’t take on a dog as big as they are, but they are sneeky as hell, I kind of like them


  150. heysoos
    150 | February 23, 2013 9:57 pm

    Calo wrote:

    It must be Saturday night tonight.

    and to improve the vibe here, I submit this song

    feel the air, the wind


  151. lobo91
    151 | February 23, 2013 9:57 pm

    @ heysoos:

    so you think this man should die?…your tiresome gun bravado inevitably hits a brick wall…are you perfect?…just admit it, say “yes, I’m perfect”

    Who the hell said that he should die? He should get whatever sentence people get for negligent homicide in that state.

    Now go fuck yourself.


  152. eaglesoars
    152 | February 23, 2013 9:58 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    scare them away is usually enough, they won’t take on a dog as big as they are

    The advice I got from animal control was that I could probably scare off 1 animal. But not a pack -- which is what I was faced with when 4 of them broke cover from the woods eyeing my little 10 inch beagle. They told me there was a pack down the road in Lorton that had over 20 animals.


  153. heysoos
    153 | February 23, 2013 9:59 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    so you think this man should die?…your tiresome gun bravado inevitably hits a brick wall…are you perfect?…just admit it, say “yes, I’m perfect”
    Who the hell said that he should die? He should get whatever sentence people get for negligent homicide in that state.
    Now go fuck yourself.

    sissy…you want to be outspoken?…then take the heat that goes with it


  154. heysoos
    154 | February 23, 2013 10:02 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    then blaze away…I’m hardly all about protecting coyotes..I don’t mind them but I’d kill one in an instant if I decide to


  155. brookly red
    155 | February 23, 2013 10:03 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I was thinking land mines… tigers might be better

    Land mines are too noisy

    tigers shit every where


  156. lobo91
    156 | February 23, 2013 10:03 pm

    @ heysoos:

    sissy…you want to be outspoken?…then take the heat that goes with it

    Whatever


  157. lobo91
    157 | February 23, 2013 10:04 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    I was thinking land mines… tigers might be better
    Land mines are too noisy
    tigers shit every where

    Get Chuck Norris to do it


  158. darkwords
    158 | February 23, 2013 10:07 pm

    @ 153 heysoos: Accidental shooting like that does require some maintenance of the shooters consciousness. I’d ask the victims family to approve the outcome. Jail time or public speaking on his screw up.


  159. heysoos
    159 | February 23, 2013 10:08 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    sissy…you want to be outspoken?…then take the heat that goes with it
    Whatever

    look at yourself bro…you are not perfect and neither am I…shit happens, mistakes are made but we don’t have to make them worse than they are…this man did not act from malice…his life is ruined, and I think jail time is needless…he unintentionally killed a man, going to prison for it accomplishes nothing


  160. The Osprey
    160 | February 23, 2013 10:08 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. “But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith.

    if you say Schumer and good faith in front of a mirror 3 times a demon will appear and give you a free iPhone.

    You forgot to add “reasonable and common sense gun controls” to that invocation.


  161. heysoos
    161 | February 23, 2013 10:10 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 153 heysoos: Accidental shooting like that does require some maintenance of the shooters consciousness. I’d ask the victims family to approve the outcome. Jail time or public speaking on his screw up.

    put yourself in his shoes…I doubt the guy is happy about it…it’s a nightmare for him…on top of that if you need to toss him in prison then do it


  162. Calo
    162 | February 23, 2013 10:11 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Saturday night music


  163. brookly red
    163 | February 23, 2013 10:12 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:

    scare them away is usually enough, they won’t take on a dog as big as they are

    The advice I got from animal control was that I could probably scare off 1 animal. But not a pack — which is what I was faced with when 4 of them broke cover from the woods eyeing my little 10 inch beagle. They told me there was a pack down the road in Lorton that had over 20 animals.

    we have feral children around here that run in packs and they are quite a nuisance and indeed even dangerous at times. We are not allowed to shot them and they are too stupid to be frightened off. The only thing that seems to work is blunt force trauma… a baseball bat or maybe a section of pipe seems to work well.


  164. Calo
    164 | February 23, 2013 10:13 pm

    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.


  165. brookly red
    165 | February 23, 2013 10:14 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), said in a statement Saturday. “But all of the senators involved are approaching this in good faith.

    if you say Schumer and good faith in front of a mirror 3 times a demon will appear and give you a free iPhone.

    You forgot to add “reasonable and common sense gun controls” to that invocation.

    well yeah I guess if I wanted to be on the state assembly but that is such a small price to sell a soul.


  166. heysoos
    166 | February 23, 2013 10:15 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    scare them away is usually enough, they won’t take on a dog as big as they are
    The advice I got from animal control was that I could probably scare off 1 animal. But not a pack — which is what I was faced with when 4 of them broke cover from the woods eyeing my little 10 inch beagle. They told me there was a pack down the road in Lorton that had over 20 animals.

    we have feral children around here that run in packs and they are quite a nuisance and indeed even dangerous at times. We are not allowed to shot them and they are too stupid to be frightened off. The only thing that seems to work is blunt force trauma… a baseball bat or maybe a section of pipe seems to work well.

    so you beat the shit out of Brooklyn kids with H&B hickory…oh my!


  167. brookly red
    167 | February 23, 2013 10:16 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.

    good kitty!


  168. lobo91
    168 | February 23, 2013 10:17 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Tigers could work for that, too


  169. heysoos
    169 | February 23, 2013 10:17 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.

    and the court let him off…problem?


  170. Calo
    170 | February 23, 2013 10:18 pm

    @ brookly red:
    It’s Saturday, stoke me and I’ll purr.


  171. eaglesoars
    171 | February 23, 2013 10:18 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    We are not allowed to shot them

    We are. It’s probably one of the reasons we have relatively few of them.


  172. lobo91
    172 | February 23, 2013 10:18 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.

    Maybe that defense could work for that guy in South Africa. All he has to do is claim that he thought there was a bear in his bathroom.


  173. The Osprey
    173 | February 23, 2013 10:19 pm

    No, 1389, not head lice. Something far, far, worse. The Hippie Hat Brain Parasite!


  174. Calo
    174 | February 23, 2013 10:19 pm

    @ heysoos:
    I haven’t followed the whole story. Is there suppose to be an “if” in that sentence?


  175. brookly red
    175 | February 23, 2013 10:20 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    It’s Saturday, stoke me and I’ll purr.

    OK just sit back and read this designer shoe catalog


  176. brookly red
    176 | February 23, 2013 10:21 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.

    Maybe that defense could work for that guy in South Africa. All he has to do is claim that he thought there was a bear in his bathroom.

    well there you go!


  177. brookly red
    177 | February 23, 2013 10:22 pm

    oppps wrong post…eaglesoars wrote:

    well there you go!

    well there you go!

    (right post this time)


  178. lobo91
    178 | February 23, 2013 10:23 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I’m not sure if they actually have bears in South Africa, but that’s a minor detail.

    The guy’s rich. He probably had a pet bear.


  179. heysoos
    179 | February 23, 2013 10:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Calo wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.
    Maybe that defense could work for that guy in South Africa. All he has to do is claim that he thought there was a bear in his bathroom.

    whatever dude…I don’t see you as even handed, so rock on


  180. Calo
    180 | February 23, 2013 10:26 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Meh, no I’m not even handed.

    A lefty describes my handedness best.

    Interpret at will.


  181. brookly red
    181 | February 23, 2013 10:28 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I’m not sure if they actually have bears in South Africa, but that’s a minor detail.

    The guy’s rich. He probably had a pet bear.

    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?


  182. lobo91
    182 | February 23, 2013 10:30 pm

    @ heysoos:

    whatever dude…I don’t see you as even handed, so rock on

    Well, damn…you just ruined my whole weekend.
    //


  183. heysoos
    183 | February 23, 2013 10:30 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    I’m not sure if they actually have bears in South Africa, but that’s a minor detail.
    The guy’s rich. He probably had a pet bear.

    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?

    I’m pretty sure that J Biden is a bot


  184. lobo91
    184 | February 23, 2013 10:31 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?

    I’m pretty sure that we have a robotic president.

    Does that count?


  185. heysoos
    185 | February 23, 2013 10:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    whatever dude…I don’t see you as even handed, so rock on
    Well, damn…you just ruined my whole weekend.
    //

    c’mon…we are more alike than different…I want to be a friend and backup…I just think you need to be socked once in a while…nothing personal


  186. brookly red
    186 | February 23, 2013 10:33 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    I’m not sure if they actually have bears in South Africa, but that’s a minor detail.
    The guy’s rich. He probably had a pet bear.

    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?

    I’m pretty sure that J Biden is a bot

    well originally he was just supposed to stand on the front lawn in a jockey suit and hold a lamp but somehow he got loose


  187. brookly red
    187 | February 23, 2013 10:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?

    I’m pretty sure that we have a robotic president.

    Does that count?

    no I assure you satan does not bot.


  188. AZfederalist
    188 | February 23, 2013 10:37 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I’m pretty sure that J Biden is a bot

    Nope, no artificial intelligence there.


  189. heysoos
    189 | February 23, 2013 10:38 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    brookly red wrote:
    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    I’m not sure if they actually have bears in South Africa, but that’s a minor detail.
    The guy’s rich. He probably had a pet bear.
    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?
    I’m pretty sure that J Biden is a bot

    well originally he was just supposed to stand on the front lawn in a jockey suit and hold a lamp but somehow he got loose

    I want to…get this…I want to rip Bidens face off and expose him as a space insect…a bot programmed to make America look bad


  190. Calo
    190 | February 23, 2013 10:39 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Not a fan of the politics of this utube, but amusing.


  191. Lily
    191 | February 23, 2013 10:40 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    I’m pretty sure that J Biden is a bot
    Nope, no artificial intelligence there.

    Indeed perfect example of an idiot. Look it up in the dictionary there’s a picture of him and a couple other examples next to the definition.


  192. Lily
    192 | February 23, 2013 10:41 pm

    @ heysoos:

    That seems rather violent in my opinion. Just look for the place where they plug him in.


  193. lobo91
    193 | February 23, 2013 10:43 pm

    Lily wrote:

    AZfederalist wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    I’m pretty sure that J Biden is a bot
    Nope, no artificial intelligence there.
    Indeed perfect example of an idiot. Look it up in the dictionary there’s a picture of him and a couple other examples next to the definition.

    Here’s a short list of some of the dumbest people in America:

    Sens. Tom Udall And Richard Blumenthal Tied For First In Rankings For “Most Liberal Senator”…


  194. Mars
    194 | February 23, 2013 10:43 pm

    http://jacobinmag.com/2011/03/burn-the-constitution/

    A perfect example of the evil that infests the lib mind.


  195. brookly red
    195 | February 23, 2013 10:44 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ heysoos:

    That seems rather violent in my opinion. Just look for the place where they plug him in.

    uhhh maybe not…


  196. Lily
    196 | February 23, 2013 10:45 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    Kinda OT but people have attack dogs and such, with today’s technology can it be long till we have robotic bodyguard pets?
    I’m pretty sure that we have a robotic president.
    Does that count?
    no I assure you satan does not bot.

    He ain’t that high up in the rank though…he only reports to Stan in my opinion. Just think of the chewing out when things don’t go quite like it’s planned. That’s because we still have people who pray in this country..bound to foul some things up if you ask me. Are you asking me?
    Oh look….shoes!


  197. Calo
    197 | February 23, 2013 10:45 pm

    @ brookly red:
    *hands Brookly my shoe catalog*


  198. brookly red
    198 | February 23, 2013 10:47 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Just think of the chewing out when things don’t go quite like it’s planned.

    when that happens I will think about it…


  199. brookly red
    199 | February 23, 2013 10:48 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    *hands Brookly my shoe catalog*

    fine try them all on I’ll just stand here and carry the bags…


  200. Lily
    200 | February 23, 2013 10:48 pm

    @ lobo91:

    *shakes head* Now there is a list of idiots…they need another list for *blooming idiots* too. They are a bit worse than a regular idiot.


  201. lobo91
    201 | February 23, 2013 10:51 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    *shakes head* Now there is a list of idiots…they need another list for *blooming idiots* too. They are a bit worse than a regular idiot.

    Just think what an improvement it would be if everyone on that list was on a tour bus someplace that went over a cliff.


  202. Lily
    202 | February 23, 2013 10:51 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    That seems rather violent in my opinion. Just look for the place where they plug him in.
    uhhh maybe not…

    It could be somewhere in the back of his neck..he did get plugs on his head now didn’t he? Where were you thinking???? Uhmmmmmmmmm, um…
    gutter thinking……shameful. ;)


  203. darkwords
    203 | February 23, 2013 10:51 pm

    @ 161 heysoos:Yes it is a game changer. We can’t tell how the shooter feels. Strictly left to the law he probably goes to jail. No one will care about his feelings. Then are there any mediating circumstances? There are hunting accidents that no one goes to jail for and everyone accepts it as an accident. It depends somewhat on the legal system surrounding you. A dropped gun. A child pulling a trigger and not understanding. A loaded gun thought to be unloaded.

    We have them here all the time. The outcome is never published.


  204. Lily
    204 | February 23, 2013 10:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    *shakes head* Now there is a list of idiots…they need another list for *blooming idiots* too. They are a bit worse than a regular idiot.
    Just think what an improvement it would be if everyone on that list was on a tour bus someplace that went over a cliff.

    Better yet one-way plane ride to Benghazi. I hear it’s going swell there!!!! They should live off what they have wrought.


  205. heysoos
    205 | February 23, 2013 10:54 pm

    commie rock…these guys are a riot


  206. Lily
    206 | February 23, 2013 10:54 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Just think of the chewing out when things don’t go quite like it’s planned.
    when that happens I will think about it…

    Will we see it though? First we need to see things going wrong for obama….that needs to happen rather quickly.


  207. Lily
    207 | February 23, 2013 10:57 pm

    Mars wrote:

    http://jacobinmag.com/2011/03/burn-the-constitution/
    A perfect example of the evil that infests the lib mind.

    That is an ugly place I assure you. *shudders*


  208. brookly red
    208 | February 23, 2013 10:57 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Will we see it though? First we need to see things going wrong for obama….that needs to happen rather quickly.

    reply  |  quot

    there is power in prayer


  209. Mars
    209 | February 23, 2013 10:59 pm

    Lily wrote:

    Mars wrote:
    http://jacobinmag.com/2011/03/burn-the-constitution/
    A perfect example of the evil that infests the lib mind.
    That is an ugly place I assure you. *shudders*

    Yeah, hit it when I was using Stumble Upon. POS had his site misrepresented in the filter as conservative politics. So I reported him as not factual, unsafe, and inaccurate. I figure if they do it to our sites, I’m going to start doing it to theirs.


  210. Lily
    210 | February 23, 2013 11:01 pm

    @ Mars:

    That’s the only thing you can do…they are very un-truthful now aren’t they? Why? Scum.


  211. lobo91
    211 | February 23, 2013 11:02 pm

    @ darkwords:

    A dropped gun. A child pulling a trigger and not understanding. A loaded gun thought to be unloaded.

    Those would all be accidents (although whoever left a loaded gun somewhere a child could find it should be held responsible).

    But aiming a rifle at someone and deliberately pulling the trigger because you thought they were a bear isn’t an accident.


  212. 212 | February 23, 2013 11:04 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    heysoos wrote:
    scare them away is usually enough, they won’t take on a dog as big as they are
    The advice I got from animal control was that I could probably scare off 1 animal. But not a pack — which is what I was faced with when 4 of them broke cover from the woods eyeing my little 10 inch beagle. They told me there was a pack down the road in Lorton that had over 20 animals.

    we have feral children around here that run in packs and they are quite a nuisance and indeed even dangerous at times. We are not allowed to shot them and they are too stupid to be frightened off. The only thing that seems to work is blunt force trauma… a baseball bat or maybe a section of pipe seems to work well.

    Water cannon.

    eaglesoars wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    scare them away is usually enough, they won’t take on a dog as big as they are
    The advice I got from animal control was that I could probably scare off 1 animal. But not a pack — which is what I was faced with when 4 of them broke cover from the woods eyeing my little 10 inch beagle. They told me there was a pack down the road in Lorton that had over 20 animals.

    This critter doesn’t worry much about that:


  213. Mars
    213 | February 23, 2013 11:04 pm

    Lily wrote:

    @ Mars:
    That’s the only thing you can do…they are very un-truthful now aren’t they? Why? Scum.

    Yeah, using stumble and the WOT web safety add on for firefox has shown me what they are like even more than usual.

    First off they constantly label themselves the opposite of what they are. Then they go onto WOT and label all conservative sites as attack and phishing sites.

    Gee it’s almost like they don’t want people to hear the other side of the argument. //////


  214. Lily
    214 | February 23, 2013 11:05 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    Will we see it though? First we need to see things going wrong for obama….that needs to happen rather quickly.
    reply | quot
    there is power in prayer

    Bingo!!! We need to pray for our country..all I’m seeing in the papers is the gov trying to do away with anything Godly and I do mean anything…crosses on graves they want removed! Really??? This is a spiritual battle too. obama is not religious in the least bit.


  215. AZfederalist
    215 | February 23, 2013 11:07 pm

    Lily wrote:

    *shakes head* Now there is a list of idiots…they need another list for *blooming idiots* too. They are a bit worse than a regular idiot.

    That’s only the Senators. There’s got to be a list for the “Guam will capsize” Representatives as well.


  216. Lily
    216 | February 23, 2013 11:07 pm

    Mars wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    @ Mars:
    That’s the only thing you can do…they are very un-truthful now aren’t they? Why? Scum.
    Yeah, using stumble and the WOT web safety add on for firefox has shown me what they are like even more than usual.
    First off they constantly label themselves the opposite of what they are. Then they go onto WOT and label all conservative sites as attack and phishing sites.
    Gee it’s almost like they don’t want people to hear the other side of the argument. //////

    They don’t want people to hear the truth…not at all. They want to pervert the truth..they want the lies to appear as the truth and the truth to appear as lies…it really is very negative in energy. Very.


  217. lobo91
    217 | February 23, 2013 11:08 pm

    @ Lily:

    Seth Ackerman, a doctoral candidate in History at Cornell, is an editor at Jacobin.

    Tells you everything you need to know.

    I wonder which of the Ivy League reeducation camps he’ll be teaching at once he gets his degree?


  218. Da_Beerfreak
    218 | February 23, 2013 11:10 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    I thank God I live in Arizona and not Chicago.

    I’m 500 miles from Chicago and that’s still too damn close!! :evil:


  219. AZfederalist
    219 | February 23, 2013 11:11 pm

    Lily wrote:

    That’s the only thing you can do…they are very un-truthful now aren’t they? Why? Scum.

    They have to lie. If they told people what their objectives really are, nobody would ever vote for them. Imagine if Johnson had told Blacks that he was going to implement his welfare policies in order to make them dependent upon government so that they would be forever beholden to vote democrat. Think he’d have been as successful? Nope, that policy had to be dressed up in the disguise as being a war on poverty and compassion for poor black people.


  220. Lily
    220 | February 23, 2013 11:12 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    *shakes head* Now there is a list of idiots…they need another list for *blooming idiots* too. They are a bit worse than a regular idiot.
    That’s only the Senators. There’s got to be a list for the “Guam will capsize” Representatives as well.

    That there is what I call *blooming idiots*. They bloom even further in being a idiot right before your eyes. These types tend to either clear a room in about 2 minutes after they start talking or your jaw drops to the floor…because you have never seen anyone so stupid in your life …which brings us back to Biden. I would label him a blooming idiot…don’t let them fool you they can do major damage too.


  221. 221 | February 23, 2013 11:12 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Calo wrote:
    @ heysoos:
    It’s up to the courts to interpret the law, not you or sympathy for a fuck up on the hunter’s part.
    Maybe that defense could work for that guy in South Africa. All he has to do is claim that he thought there was a bear in his bathroom.

    well there you go!

    There are no bears in Africa.


  222. Calo
    222 | February 23, 2013 11:15 pm

    @ lobo91:

    But aiming a rifle at someone and deliberately pulling the trigger because you thought they were a bear isn’t an accident.

    When I had the weekend cabin in the mountains, I once mistook a black bear for a Doberman in the middle of a snowstorm. But, it did not even remotely resemble a deer to me.

    But, I didn’t have my beer goggles on that day.

    Just sayin’


  223. AZfederalist
    223 | February 23, 2013 11:15 pm

    1389AD wrote:

    There are no bears in Africa.

    Nope, Lions ate ‘em all.


  224. Lily
    224 | February 23, 2013 11:16 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Seth Ackerman, a doctoral candidate in History at Cornell, is an editor at Jacobin.
    Tells you everything you need to know.
    I wonder which of the Ivy League reeducation camps he’ll be teaching at once he gets his degree?

    We can only pray and hope he will appear stupid to whoever he is trying to brain wash. Or make sure he never gets a job where he can do that…but I think hoping and praying will probably work better in today’s climate.


  225. Mars
    225 | February 23, 2013 11:17 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Seth Ackerman, a doctoral candidate in History at Cornell, is an editor at Jacobin.
    Tells you everything you need to know.
    I wonder which of the Ivy League reeducation camps he’ll be teaching at once he gets his degree?

    I just wish the average person could read that crap. He is literally worshipping the communists of the past, and then proclaiming that we need to destroy the constitution because it isn’t allowing progressives to achieve a perfect communist society.


  226. Da_Beerfreak
    226 | February 23, 2013 11:17 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    I thank God I live in Arizona and not Chicago.

    I used to say that about Colorado, but not anymore.

    see, Califailure is an infectious disease

    Califailure is only one symptom of the greater problem. The Liberal Plague. If we can’t stop the plague’s spread, we’re doomed…


  227. lobo91
    227 | February 23, 2013 11:19 pm

    @ Calo:

    When I had the weekend cabin in the mountains, I once mistook a black bear for a Doberman in the middle of a snowstorm. But, it did not even remotely resemble a deer to me.

    This clown was hunting bears. He saw a person 100 yards away and thought he was a bear.

    That’s not an accident, it’s studpidity.


  228. lobo91
    228 | February 23, 2013 11:22 pm

    @ Mars:

    I just wish the average person could read that crap. He is literally worshipping the communists of the past, and then proclaiming that we need to destroy the constitution because it isn’t allowing progressives to achieve a perfect communist society.

    Did you see where the left is all pissed at Ted Cruz for saying that there were at least a dozen Marxists on the faculty at Harvard Law when he was a student there?

    They don’t actually deny his claim. They’re just upset because he pointed it out.


  229. Lily
    229 | February 23, 2013 11:23 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    That’s the only thing you can do…they are very un-truthful now aren’t they? Why? Scum.
    They have to lie. If they told people what their objectives really are, nobody would ever vote for them. Imagine if Johnson had told Blacks that he was going to implement his welfare policies in order to make them dependent upon government so that they would be forever beholden to vote democrat. Think he’d have been as successful? Nope, that policy had to be dressed up in the disguise as being a war on poverty and compassion for poor black people.

    That was in the 60′s…they don’t even have to dress it up anymore there will be some people who buy into it! They really would!


  230. Lily
    230 | February 23, 2013 11:25 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    1389AD wrote:
    There are no bears in Africa.
    Nope, Lions ate ‘em all.

    Croc’s and hippo’s do some damage too if the lions aren’t eating.


  231. AZfederalist
    231 | February 23, 2013 11:25 pm

    Lily wrote:

    but I think hoping and praying will probably work better in today’s climate.

    I don’t want to say that’s all we can do at this moment because that tends to minimize the power of prayer and make it seem a desperate action of last resort. It should never be last resort and we should be praying continuously for our country that it remain Godly, free, and prosper. However, there are some times when that is all we have left. I fear now is one of those times. Given the embrace of evil that half the country engaged in: abortion, coveting what others have and having the government steal it for them — I’m not sure that God is not having us endure the consequences of the evil we have embraced. Prayers for forgiveness and that we turn away from that evil are certainly in order.


  232. Mars
    232 | February 23, 2013 11:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Mars:
    I just wish the average person could read that crap. He is literally worshipping the communists of the past, and then proclaiming that we need to destroy the constitution because it isn’t allowing progressives to achieve a perfect communist society.
    Did you see where the left is all pissed at Ted Cruz for saying that there were at least a dozen Marxists on the faculty at Harvard Law when he was a student there?
    They don’t actually deny his claim. They’re just upset because he pointed it out.

    Yep, the cockroaches don’t like the light.

    Anyway another headache tonight so I have to cut this hit and run short.

    Night all.


  233. Lily
    233 | February 23, 2013 11:27 pm

    @ lobo91:

    The truth is like Holy Water on a vampire to them!!!


  234. Calo
    234 | February 23, 2013 11:28 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I’m mixing my animals up on this story, sorry.
    Multitasking… work, swim team emails, etc.

    But, I don’t think I could forget how a black bear moves vs a horse.

    Of course, I did stare at two horses in a pasture today for about three hours, so I think I have their walk down pat. There were no black bears present.


  235. Lily
    235 | February 23, 2013 11:28 pm

    @ Mars:

    Hope your headache gets better …. nite Mars!


  236. Lily
    236 | February 23, 2013 11:29 pm

    @ Calo:

    That’s called Texas Saturday’s. They happen like that there. ;)


  237. Calo
    237 | February 23, 2013 11:30 pm

    @ Lily:
    I always enjoy Mar’s guest posts.

    I hope he continues to write them up for the blog.


  238. Lily
    238 | February 23, 2013 11:32 pm

    AZfederalist wrote:

    Lily wrote:
    but I think hoping and praying will probably work better in today’s climate.
    I don’t want to say that’s all we can do at this moment because that tends to minimize the power of prayer and make it seem a desperate action of last resort. It should never be last resort and we should be praying continuously for our country that it remain Godly, free, and prosper. However, there are some times when that is all we have left. I fear now is one of those times. Given the embrace of evil that half the country engaged in: abortion, coveting what others have and having the government steal it for them — I’m not sure that God is not having us endure the consequences of the evil we have embraced. Prayers for forgiveness and that we turn away from that evil are certainly in order.

    Amen.
    It is more of God giving us want 1/2 this country wants they reject Him…we surely are at a crossroads at this point in time…again.


  239. Lily
    239 | February 23, 2013 11:34 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ Lily:
    I always enjoy Mar’s guest posts.
    I hope he continues to write them up for the blog.

    So do I. I love to talk psychology and stuff like that and be corrected when I’m wrong. I want to learn…heaven knows there is some learning on that subject that will help me in real life with certian people. ;)


  240. lobo91
    240 | February 23, 2013 11:35 pm

    @ Lily:

    Amen.
    It is more of God giving us want 1/2 this country wants they reject Him…we surely are at a crossroads at this point in time…again.

    And just like last time, the Democrats are going to push us into a war.


  241. Lily
    241 | February 23, 2013 11:37 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Lily:
    Amen.
    It is more of God giving us want 1/2 this country wants they reject Him…we surely are at a crossroads at this point in time…again.
    And just like last time, the Democrats are going to push us into a war.

    The winds are blowing that way…I pray not.


  242. lobo91
    242 | February 23, 2013 11:39 pm

    I’m watching Zero Dark Thirty right now.

    I can see why the libs hate this movie.


  243. lobo91
    243 | February 23, 2013 11:46 pm


  244. Bumr50
    244 | February 23, 2013 11:52 pm

    The loading, it vexes me…


  245. Lily
    245 | February 23, 2013 11:53 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Is it good???


  246. Calo
    246 | February 23, 2013 11:54 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Where are you watching it?


  247. lobo91
    247 | February 24, 2013 12:03 am

    @ Lily:
    @ Calo:

    So far, it’s pretty good. I’m about 1/3 of the way through it.

    I’m watching a copy of an Oscar screening DVD.


  248. Calo
    248 | February 24, 2013 12:03 am

    I am the new thread killer!

    Bite me Lily


  249. Lily
    249 | February 24, 2013 12:03 am

    Thread is d.e.a.d.


  250. Lily
    250 | February 24, 2013 12:05 am

    @ Calo:

    Two serial thread killers huh??? I don’t see this ending well.


  251. AZfederalist
    251 | February 24, 2013 12:07 am

    @ Lily:

    Hey, this one had some spunk; took you up to 250 posts before it rolled over and died. ;-)


  252. lobo91
    252 | February 24, 2013 12:09 am

    Lily wrote:

    @ Calo:
    Two serial thread killers huh??? I don’t see this ending well.

    Steel cage match


  253. Calo
    253 | February 24, 2013 12:13 am

    @ lobo91:
    May 2013.

    Houston, baby.


  254. Calo
    254 | February 24, 2013 12:14 am

    @ Calo:
    Can there be a cage match with crappy hearts and cute shoes?


  255. lobo91
    255 | February 24, 2013 12:15 am

    @ Calo:

    I have my plane ticket and hotel reservation.

    And tickets to a couple of events.


  256. Calo
    256 | February 24, 2013 12:17 am

    @ lobo91:
    I’m your frikkin taxi.

    Obviously, you have my email.


  257. lobo91
    257 | February 24, 2013 12:20 am

    @ Calo:

    I do


  258. Calo
    258 | February 24, 2013 12:35 am

    @ lobo91:
    I’ll hold up a sign looking for The Wolf at the airport.


  259. lobo91
    259 | February 24, 2013 12:42 am

    Calo wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    I’ll hold up a sign looking for The Wolf at the airport.

    Should work


  260. Calo
    260 | February 24, 2013 12:52 am

    @ lobo91:
    Night Lobo.

    Off yo smack an ass on Twitter tonight, because guys should not act like 14 year old middle school girls.


  261. lobo91
    261 | February 24, 2013 12:55 am

    @ Calo:

    Um…okay

    If you want a copy of this movie, let me know.


  262. AZfederalist
    262 | February 24, 2013 12:56 am

    @ Calo:

    That sounds vaguely disturbing.


  263. AZfederalist
    263 | February 24, 2013 12:57 am

    Goodnight Calo, take no prisoners. :twisted:

    Bedtime here also. Goodnight all.


  264. yenta-fada
    264 | February 24, 2013 12:58 am

    Alison Krauss a cappella


  265. lobo91
    265 | February 24, 2013 1:43 am

    I think Zero Dark Thirty may have set a new record for the longest buildup ever in a movie.

    It’s 2 hours and 36 minutes long. The SEALs get the go-ahead for the assault an hour and 55 minutes in.


  266. 266 | February 24, 2013 2:07 am

    I am definitely on the wrong schedule…


  267. lobo91
    267 | February 24, 2013 2:12 am

    @ Mike C.:

    me too


  268. 268 | February 24, 2013 2:39 am

    The “bear” niche (forest-dwelling omnivores than can beat you up) was taken up by the various great-apes in Africa (and Indonesia). Apes are more social and that gives them the advantage.

    I mean, so I assume.


  269. 269 | February 24, 2013 2:52 am

    @ lobo91:

    One reason I don’t watch TV -- I’m asleep before anything is on.


  270. Bumr50
    270 | February 24, 2013 7:50 am

    Hi!


  271. Bumr50
    271 | February 24, 2013 8:06 am

    Republican Teddy Turner Blames Jane Fonda for His Dad Ted Turner’s Leftist Tilt

    ht -- Newsbusters

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

    The Charleston Tea Party seems to like him.


  272. waldensianspirit
    272 | February 24, 2013 8:09 am

    @ Bumr50:
    Jane Fonda is only the access trimmings to what made him an ignorant leftist


  273. Bumr50
    273 | February 24, 2013 8:14 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I’m definitely not a ‘sins of the father’ type of guy, but something seems amiss with “Republican Teddy Turner.”

    He’s a Citadel grad, so he’s got that going for him…


  274. waldensianspirit
    274 | February 24, 2013 8:17 am

    @ Bumr50:
    Imagine feeling you’re better than others because you ‘own’ a lot of trees; basically hogging land for yourself


  275. 275 | February 24, 2013 8:28 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Wealthy people often own large tracts of land, large houses, large boats, airplanes, expensive cars, etc. What’s your point?


  276. Bumr50
    276 | February 24, 2013 8:37 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Turner is conspicuous even among the uber-wealthy.

    There are definitely concerns that he’s buying all of this land OTHER than “he wants to be a rancher.”

    Turner has amassed 2 million acres over the past two decades to become the largest private landowner in the country. He owns land in at least nine states, with most of his holdings in New Mexico, Nebraska, Montana and South Dakota, and is restoring buffalo, cutthroat trout, wolves, black-footed ferrets and other flora and fauna that filled the Plains before the West was won.

    His front men say their boss doesn’t have a secret agenda — he just wants to be a rancher. But each big buy only heightens the anxiety and gives rise to conspiracy theories, the most ominous of which hold that the swashbuckling Atlanta executive is bent on putting Nebraska ranchers and farmers out of business.

    Given his whackjob track record, it’s not a leap to speculate on his motives, IMHO.

    Not a demonization of Turner’s right to buy as much land as he can afford.


  277. 277 | February 24, 2013 8:46 am

    @ Bumr50:

    So the guy is nuts and wants to buy a bunch of land. So what? His heirs will likely sell it all off after a while. Big deal. Speculation is just that.


  278. RIX
    278 | February 24, 2013 8:50 am

    Good morning. One of the most amusing visuals that haveever seen
    involved Turner & Jane Fonda.
    They were sitting inn the stands during a Braves World Series game.
    Everybody was doingbtheTomahawk Chop.
    Politically correct Jane did it “Palm Down”
    It was so absurd that they held the shot for a couple of minutes.


  279. Bumr50
    279 | February 24, 2013 8:54 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Ok.

    I’m still going to have a hard time trusting a Republican named Turner to vote conservative.

    It’s going to take more than a little speech about how he yelled at Dad at the dinner table for driving his Prius to the jet.

    His platform is right up my alley!

    Given recent history, I think I’m entitled to healthy dose of suspicion.


  280. RIX
    280 | February 24, 2013 9:06 am

    @ Bumr50:
    Atleast the guy didn’t spend nine months being carried by Hanoi Jane..


  281. Bumr50
    281 | February 24, 2013 9:07 am

    @ RIX:

    Something tells me that he wouldn’t have survived the trip.


  282. Bumr50
    282 | February 24, 2013 9:08 am

    Sirs, may I please have some more thread?


  283. RIX
    283 | February 24, 2013 9:14 am

    @ Bumr50:
    Being birthed by Jane Fonda can’t be a healthy experience.


  284. waldensianspirit
    284 | February 24, 2013 9:37 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ waldensianspirit:
    Wealthy people often own large tracts of land, large houses, large boats, airplanes, expensive cars, etc. What’s your point?

    Sure they can. But then they can’t tell me I owe carbon credits and they don’t because of it. Capisce?


  285. 285 | February 24, 2013 9:50 am

    Didn’t realise we were talking about carbon credits.


  286. waldensianspirit
    286 | February 24, 2013 9:59 am

    @ Mike C.:
    Yea, I wasn’t clear. Turner says he’s ok on his use of resources because of his trees, he doesn’t owe carbon credits


  287. 287 | February 24, 2013 10:03 am

    So far as I know, nobody in this country owes carbon credits -- that whole scam was never passed into law. Now there are some regulations (lots of them, in fact) on specific industries, but that’s not the same thing.


  288. lobo91
    288 | February 24, 2013 10:34 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ Bumr50:
    Atleast the guy didn’t spend nine months being carried by Hanoi Jane..

    Could be worse. He could be this lunatic’s kid:

    Hollywood Moonbat Cher: Ted Cruz Is The Devil, “Unholy,” “McCarthy Reincarnate,” “Idiot, Bigot, Creature”…

    Look how well Chastity Chaz Bono turned out…
    //


  289. eaglesoars
    289 | February 24, 2013 10:40 am

    I know we have a few vets here -- anybody get this letter?

    SHOCK REPORT — Veterans Receive Letters From VA Prohibiting Ownership or Purchase of Firearms


  290. Bumr50
    290 | February 24, 2013 10:50 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    I heard it was BS, but don’t quote me yet.

    I forget where.


  291. Bumr50
    291 | February 24, 2013 10:55 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    A little perspective:

    Connelly lays this out in such a way that the average person reading this gets the impression that the VA is arbitrarily sending letters to unsuspecting veterans that they’ve lost their 2nd Amendment rights because someone in far away Washington summarily checked a box on a whim. It is portrayed as a bolt from the blue, affecting a large percentage of veterans.

    What is really going on is that if a veteran is having financial problems, someone, usually his immediate family, can request for his benefits to be placed in guardianship. It allows the VA to pay the family so that they can handle a disabled vet’s finances and get his bills paid. When a veteran’s affairs are placed in guardianship, then this provision kicks in.

    This doesn’t happen to someone just because they went into combat, or if they have some level of PTSD, or if they have a head injury. This generally applies to folks that are seriously mentally compromised. It applies to guys who are, as one veteran’s expert informed me this morning:

    “…either comatose, make poor life decisions, spend their VA check on drugs, or (like the guy I once represented) were pissed off that the T-Rex in the back yard was eating his vegetables.”

    Now, what happens if someone is placed on this list who feels he doesn’t deserve it? They can get a hearing, provide evidence, etc. and get their day in court to have their Second Amendment rights restored via due process.

    Now, is this an ideal and perfect process? Of course not. It has humans involved in trying to figured out the messy workings of someone else’s gray matter, and that is an iffy proposition that MDs and PhDs that work directly with patients for years still get wrong from time to time.


  292. eaglesoars
    292 | February 24, 2013 10:58 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    I heard it was BS, but don’t quote me yet.

    I was wondering because at first glance this would appear to be a story most conservative blogs would pick up in a heartbeat -- but only Jim Hoft at Gateway Pundit seems to have it. Also, there’s been no response from the VA about the report.

    Very strange.


  293. RIX
    293 | February 24, 2013 11:03 am

    @ eaglesoars:
    This looks like it is not based on disability per se,
    but lackof capacity.


  294. eaglesoars
    294 | February 24, 2013 11:04 am

    @ Bumr50:

    This doesn’t happen to someone just because they went into combat, or if they have some level of PTSD, or if they have a head injury.

    Another thing that made me wonder. My former BIL sustained a head injury in an auto accident and was no longer allowed to fly (he was an Air Force chopper pilot). That was during the first Gulf war and he’s long retired -- but he still has his guns.

    like the guy I once represented) were pissed off that the T-Rex in the back yard was eating his vegetables.”

    Oh dear. I think I knew him. Poor dear.


  295. Bumr50
    295 | February 24, 2013 11:05 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yeah, see my above.

    I was linked there via Twitchy:

    No, the VA isn’t arbitrarily disarming veterans


  296. eaglesoars
    296 | February 24, 2013 11:22 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    I was linked there via Twitchy:

    Ok. I visited Red Flag News, apparently the original source for this story. The blogger, one Michael Coonelly is supposedly a J.D. in constitutional law. But if you look at the headlines on his site, all the verbage falls into the ‘scaremongering’ category.


  297. Bumr50
    297 | February 24, 2013 11:24 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    This kind of of thing certainly doesn’t help.


  298. eaglesoars
    298 | February 24, 2013 11:26 am

    Oh cripes.

    Class Action Lawsuit Against the VA and Obama Gaining Traction After RedFlag Report…

    Look who he’s citing:

    Continue reading via the website of Attorney Orly Taitz

    buh bye


  299. Bumr50
    299 | February 24, 2013 11:31 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Great.

    So now we’re going to have to defend people the VA wants to declare mentally unfit to own and carry firearms’ right to own and carry firearms.

    Right now.

    Bravo, Red Flag News.


  300. RIX
    300 | February 24, 2013 11:34 am

    @ eaglesoars:
    If you google this there are links toLittle Green Footballs.
    Charlie is doing a happy dance that it is a bogus story


  301. eaglesoars
    301 | February 24, 2013 11:34 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    So now we’re going to have to defend people the VA wants to declare mentally unfit to own and carry firearms’ right to own and carry firearms.

    And the gun control crowd will love it. “Look! the gun rights loons want the mentally ill to have guns!”

    Not to mention that the class action suit is being headed up by one of the birther crazies.


  302. eaglesoars
    302 | February 24, 2013 11:36 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    If you google this there are links toLittle Green Footballs.
    Charlie is doing a happy dance that it is a bogus story

    Well it SHOULD be a bogus story, and I’m doing a happy dance too so I can’t fault him for that.

    But not for the Orly Taitz connection. This whole thing now seems ‘ginned up’ to me.


  303. RIX
    303 | February 24, 2013 11:49 am

    Well it SHOULD be a bogus story, and I’m doing a happy dance too so I can’t fault him for that.

    But not for the Orly Taitz connection. This whole thing now seems ‘ginned up’ to me.@ eaglesoars:

    Yeah , but Johnson is not happy because veterans are not being stiffed.
    He’s all giddy because it plays into his “wing nuts” narrative.


  304. 304 | February 24, 2013 11:53 am

    Orly Tatiz??? Good grief.


  305. eaglesoars
    305 | February 24, 2013 11:53 am

    RIX wrote:

    Yeah , but Johnson is not happy because veterans are not being stiffed.
    He’s all giddy because it plays into his “wing nuts” narrative.

    meh. He dropped off my radar years ago


  306. Bumr50
    306 | February 24, 2013 11:58 am

    Gateway Pundit needs to get a handle on things over there, if he hasn’t already.

    He hasn’t.


  307. eaglesoars
    307 | February 24, 2013 12:02 pm

    gotta go chores beckon


  308. RIX
    308 | February 24, 2013 12:46 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Yeah , but Johnson is not happy because veterans are not being stiffed.
    He’s all giddy because it plays into his “wing nuts” narrative.

    meh. He dropped off my radar years ago

    Good place to keep him. I only knew because he was linked.


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