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Bill Whittle’s Virtual State of the Union 2013 on Guns and the Second Amendment

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Filed under Second Amendment at February 26th, 2013 - 5:00 pm

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Published on Feb 21, 2013 by BillWhittleChannel

In this segment of his Virtual State of the Union, the Virtual President talks about why politicians want to talk about gun control rather than crime control, and delivers the factual evidence and historical truths that make the case for the Second Amendment self-evident.

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  1. 1 | February 26, 2013 5:21 pm

    Why can we not get this Guy to Run? Oh Wait, he makes too much sense so the Country Club Establishment Republicans would bury him!


  2. BatGuano
    2 | February 26, 2013 5:23 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    Why can we not get this Guy to Run? Oh Wait, he makes too much sense so the Country Club Establishment Republicans would bury him!

    Rove is against him.


  3. Da_Beerfreak
    3 | February 26, 2013 5:27 pm

    The current electoral system is designed to produce the least electable Republicans for the D’Rats to beat in our free and fair elections… :evil:


  4. BatGuano
    4 | February 26, 2013 5:35 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The current electoral system is designed to produce the least electable Republicans for the D’Rats to beat in our free and fair elections…

    I wouldn’t blame the electoral college. What would have happened if ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and PMSNBC had backed Romney.


  5. Tanker
    5 | February 26, 2013 5:41 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The current electoral system is designed to produce the least electable Republicans for the D’Rats to beat in our free and fair elections…

    Our problem isn’t the electoral college, it’s the open primaries the Republicans allow. The party heads can’t get their guy nominated without an open primary process. They depend on the dems for help!


  6. Da_Beerfreak
    6 | February 26, 2013 5:43 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The current electoral system is designed to produce the least electable Republicans for the D’Rats to beat in our free and fair elections…

    I wouldn’t blame the electoral college. What would have happened if ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and PMSNBC had backed Romney.

    What does the electoral college have to do with it??
    It’s the open primaries (along with a few other things) that are destroying the two party system, not the electoral college.


  7. Da_Beerfreak
    7 | February 26, 2013 5:46 pm

    @ BatGuano:
    @ Tanker:
    Since when does electoral system == electoral college???

    I didn’t get the memo on that one….


  8. 8 | February 26, 2013 5:48 pm

    Tanker wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    The current electoral system is designed to produce the least electable Republicans for the D’Rats to beat in our free and fair elections…

    Our problem isn’t the electoral college, it’s the open primaries the Republicans allow. The party heads can’t get their guy nominated without an open primary process. They depend on the dems for help!

    Quite true! We here in Arizona would not be stuck with McSlime if the Republicans would allow a decent Candidate to run against him. Even then more DEMOCRAPS vote for him than Republicans!


  9. Tanker
    9 | February 26, 2013 5:48 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ BatGuano:
    @ Tanker:
    Since when does electoral system == electoral college???
    I didn’t get the memo on that one….

    :oops: my reading ability is lacking today. You are correct!


  10. 10 | February 26, 2013 5:50 pm

    BTW, Arizona has closed Primaries so the Establishment just makes sure any challenger to McSlime is worse than fucking useless!


  11. Tanker
    11 | February 26, 2013 5:56 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    BTW, Arizona has closed Primaries so the Establishment just makes sure any challenger to McSlime is worse than fucking useless!

    So is Kentucky and we have those “horrible” voter ID requirements too. Ky is a shame to other Dem controlled states.


  12. Moe Katz
    12 | February 26, 2013 5:57 pm

    Hagel confirmed.


  13. Moe Katz
    13 | February 26, 2013 5:59 pm

    Sorry, this has already been noted on the back thread.


  14. Da_Beerfreak
    14 | February 26, 2013 5:59 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    BTW, Arizona has closed Primaries so the Establishment just makes sure any challenger to McSlime is worse than fucking useless!

    But you still let Independents vote in your primaries. I would tell the Independents to join a party or shut the F**k up, it’s not their party.

    Minnesota also has a big problem with really bad State GOPee candidates. The caucus system is lots worse then the open primaries.


  15. 15 | February 26, 2013 6:11 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    AZOlddog wrote:
    BTW, Arizona has closed Primaries so the Establishment just makes sure any challenger to McSlime is worse than fucking useless!

    But you still let Independents vote in your primaries. I would tell the Independents to join a party or shut the F**k up, it’s not their party.
    Minnesota also has a big problem with really bad State GOPee candidates. The caucus system is lots worse then the open primaries.

    You are incorrect Sir! Independents may not vote in either Primary, contrary to some info out on the Web. Last two cycles either the Wife or I have been Poll Watchers for the Republican party! Now Independents have used the switch Registration trick to vote but, in this upcoming cycle you cannot change Registration within 100 days of the Primary. Forces the assholes to choose which is more important to them before it becomes apparent!


  16. RIX
    16 | February 26, 2013 6:13 pm

    (THE HILL) — President Obama on Tuesday traveled to a Navy shipyard in Newport News, Va. to argue allowing $85 billion in spending cuts to be triggered was “not smart” and would inflict a “self-inflicted wound” on the economy.

    Obama once again pointed the finger at House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Congressional Republicans for stalling on the sequester, saying they “refuse to compromise even an inch” on closing tax loopholes.

    He acts like he has nothing to do with it,
    He must have forgot that he created it,


  17. Da_Beerfreak
    17 | February 26, 2013 6:16 pm

    Dems pitch Department of Peacebuilding

    House Democrats led by Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) have introduced legislation that would create a federal Department of Peacebuilding, which would be tasked with everything from finding ways to scale back U.S. military actions to ending bullying at schools.

    Under her bill, H.R. 808, the new department would be led by a Cabinet-level Secretary of Peacebuilding, who would have a seat on the National Security Council. The department would be “dedicated to peacebuilding, peacemaking, and the study and promotion of conditions conducive to both domestic and international peace and a culture of peace.”

    “This culture of violence that we live in is unacceptable,” Lee said earlier this month. “On our streets and across the globe, the pervasive presence of violence has infected the lives of millions, and it is far past time we address it as a nation.
    [Snip]


  18. Da_Beerfreak
    18 | February 26, 2013 6:18 pm

    @ AZOlddog:
    I stand corrected. That is indeed good news. :grin:


  19. 19 | February 26, 2013 6:22 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ AZOlddog:

    I stand corrected. That is indeed good news.

    No Problem Sir! That meme was spread by an Independent group here in the State to try to get around the Law and many many people outside of AZ believed that it was true! It DID NOT FUCKING WORK!! :(


  20. 20 | February 26, 2013 6:24 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    Boy does that sound like Airhead DmProgs! However, consider the source!


  21. 21 | February 26, 2013 6:25 pm

    Crap, DemProgs. PIMF you Idiot!


  22. lobo91
    22 | February 26, 2013 6:29 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    If they’d just let us kill our enemies, we wouldn’t need a “Department of Peacebuilding.”


  23. heysoos
    23 | February 26, 2013 6:30 pm

    I’d drink with Bill


  24. Da_Beerfreak
    24 | February 26, 2013 6:30 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    Crap, DemProgs. PIMF you Idiot!

    Shouldn’t that really be DimProgs… :lol:


  25. lobo91
    25 | February 26, 2013 6:31 pm

    Meanwhile, speaking of the imaginary “peace process”:

    Hamas, Muslim Clerics Warn Obama Not To Visit Temple Mount During Trip To Jerusalem…

    Anyone have any doubt that he’ll obey?


  26. Da_Beerfreak
    26 | February 26, 2013 6:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    If they’d just let us kill our enemies, we wouldn’t need a “Department of Peacebuilding.”

    For some reason, Peace does have a way of just happening on its own when all the bad guys are gone…


  27. RIX
    27 | February 26, 2013 6:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Meanwhile, speaking of the imaginary “peace process”:

    Hamas, Muslim Clerics Warn Obama Not To Visit Temple Mount During Trip To Jerusalem…

    Anyone have any doubt that he’ll obey?

    And not one hard hitting journalist would ask about it.


  28. lobo91
    28 | February 26, 2013 6:36 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    For some reason, Peace does have a way of just happening on its own when all the bad guys are gone…

    That’s traditionally how you get peace.

    We see what 65 years of fighting wars using an “exit strategy” has gotten us.


  29. lobo91
    29 | February 26, 2013 6:37 pm

    @ RIX:

    And not one hard hitting journalist would ask about it.

    They probably won’t notice when he refers to Jerusalem as “al Quds,” either.


  30. heysoos
    30 | February 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Meanwhile, speaking of the imaginary “peace process”:
    Hamas, Muslim Clerics Warn Obama Not To Visit Temple Mount During Trip To Jerusalem…
    Anyone have any doubt that he’ll obey?

    whoa!…that’s gonna be a good one


  31. 31 | February 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    AZOlddog wrote:
    Crap, DemProgs. PIMF you Idiot!
    Shouldn’t that really be DimProgs…

    You have a valid point there Sir! :)


  32. 32 | February 26, 2013 6:40 pm

    @ heysoos:
    I want to see how the LSM covers that one!


  33. lobo91
    33 | February 26, 2013 6:41 pm

    And the dumbest man in the Senate chimes in:

    Dingy Reid: Sequester Should Go Forward Unless GOP Agrees To More Tax Hikes…

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters Tuesday that automatic spending cuts known as the sequester should go forward unless Republicans agree to raise taxes.

    Reid said he would not agree to any package that replaces the sequester with only spending cuts.

    “We have a law that’s in effect. It’s call sequestration. Those cuts will go forward. They’re all cuts. I think we need some revenue to take the pressure off everybody. The American people agree with me, and until there’s some agreement on revenue, I believe we should just go ahead with the sequester,” Reid said.

    Reid panned a proposal floated by Senate Republicans to give the administration more flexibility to manage the impact of the $85 billion in automatic cuts.


  34. citizen_q
    34 | February 26, 2013 6:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Meanwhile, speaking of the imaginary “peace process”:
    Hamas, Muslim Clerics Warn Obama Not To Visit Temple Mount During Trip To Jerusalem…
    Anyone have any doubt that he’ll obey?

    What’s the matter they don’t like black muslims?


  35. RIX
    35 | February 26, 2013 6:41 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    And not one hard hitting journalist would ask about it.

    They probably won’t notice when he refers to Jerusalem as “al Quds,” either.

    No doubt. And if he asks the press to leave the room so that he
    can take questions, they have proven that they are fine with that.


  36. heysoos
    36 | February 26, 2013 6:43 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I want to see how the LSM covers that one!

    BO…backs off from Iran, backs up the rebs in Libya, french kisses the MB in Egypt…and than’t the thanks he gets?
    BWAHAAAA!!!
    SLAP!!
    BOOM!!!
    POW ZAP!!!


  37. lobo91
    37 | February 26, 2013 6:43 pm

    @ lobo91:

    This part is really amazing:

    “I think we need some revenue to take the pressure off everybody.”

    So, the way to fix the problems caused by the Dems deliberately targeting things that will hurt the public is to take more money from them?


  38. heysoos
    38 | February 26, 2013 6:45 pm

    @ lobo91:
    bunch of playground histrionics, froth…
    I don’t even care anymore, it’s just another bad realty show that should be cancelled


  39. RIX
    39 | February 26, 2013 6:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    This part is really amazing:

    “I think we need some revenue to take the pressure off everybody.”

    So, the way to fix the problems caused by the Dems deliberately targeting things that will hurt the public is to take more money from them?

    Sophistry, create the problem, blame the other guy & offer a
    solution that is more of the same.


  40. heysoos
    40 | February 26, 2013 6:46 pm

    citizen_q wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    Meanwhile, speaking of the imaginary “peace process”:
    Hamas, Muslim Clerics Warn Obama Not To Visit Temple Mount During Trip To Jerusalem…
    Anyone have any doubt that he’ll obey?

    What’s the matter they don’t like black muslims?

    only for sex, you know…exotic bung


  41. heysoos
    41 | February 26, 2013 6:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    This part is really amazing:
    “I think we need some revenue to take the pressure off everybody.”
    So, the way to fix the problems caused by the Dems deliberately targeting things that will hurt the public is to take more money from them?

    we is not us…he is just too stupid to know how ignorant he is..I’d box that fucker on one leg


  42. Da_Beerfreak
    42 | February 26, 2013 6:59 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    For some reason, Peace does have a way of just happening on its own when all the bad guys are gone…

    That’s traditionally how you get peace.

    We see what 65 years of fighting wars using an “exit strategy” has gotten us.

    Funny how that works…

    Unfortunately, there’s no known way to get D’Rats to think…


  43. 43 | February 26, 2013 7:05 pm

    That’s odd… An actual 2nd amendment thread topic with not a 2nd amendment comment on it.


  44. lobo91
    44 | February 26, 2013 7:07 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    Unfortunately, there’s no known way to get D’Rats to think…

    Or do simple math:

    US military acknowledges reported drop in Taliban attacks was incorrect

    The Obama administration appears to have relied on misleading figures to characterize progress in the war in Afghanistan, as the U.S.-led military coalition acknowledged Tuesday that it had incorrectly reported a decline in Taliban attacks last year.

    Throughout the campaign season, President Obama and his top officials claimed the Taliban were on the decline.

    “We broke the Taliban’s momentum,” Obama said from Bagram Air Base last May.

    “We’ve blunted the Taliban’s momentum,” he said last September, as he accepted the party’s nomination.

    But the corrected numbers could undercut that narrative.

    The U.S.-led coalition had incorrectly reported a 7 percent decline in Taliban attacks last year. In fact, there was no change in the number of attacks on international troops from 2011 to 2012.

    “It certainly runs against the administration narrative that things are getting better in Afghanistan,” said Peter Brookes, a senior fellow with The Heritage Foundation.


  45. lobo91
    45 | February 26, 2013 7:08 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    That’s odd… An actual 2nd amendment thread topic with not a 2nd amendment comment on it.

    I think everyone made them on prior threads.


  46. lobo91
    46 | February 26, 2013 7:12 pm

    I wonder how much of our money was used to pay for this scheme?

    Republican rep claims Obama backers using fake Twitter accounts in gun-control blitz

    President Obama supporters appear to be using fake Twitter accounts to send pro gun-control messages to members of Congress, Texas Republican Rep. Steve Stockman and conservative bloggers who also reviewed the messages said Monday.

    Bloggers first spotted the trend and said they suspected some social media funny business because the senders had sent no other tweets, had no followers and followed nobody.

    In addition, blogger Stacy McCain said his review found the majority of the accounts supporting Obama’s gun-control campaign were created less than 48 hours before a member of Congress was contacted.

    The tweets in question included the #WeDemandAVote hashtag – which President Obama told gun-control supporters to include in their Twitter messages to Congress.


  47. 47 | February 26, 2013 7:12 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Still odd, though, you gotta admit.

    It has been my long-held belief that any thread that goes long enough will morph into a gun or food thread.


  48. lobo91
    48 | February 26, 2013 7:18 pm

    Obama can’t even spell hypocrisy:

    Obama Says He’s “Not Interested In Playing Blame Game” Over Sequester… Moments After He Blamed GOP For Pending Cuts…

    President Obama insisted in a visit to Newport News, Va. Tuesday that he was “not interested in playing a blame game” over $85 billion in spending cuts set to begin Friday.

    The problem?

    Just moments earlier, he placed the blame entirely at the feet of GOP lawmakers, saying their resistance to higher taxes was blocking any deal to avert the so-called sequester.

    “There are too many Republicans in Congress right now who refuse to compromise an inch,” Obama said at the Virginia shipping yard.


  49. heysoos
    49 | February 26, 2013 7:19 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Still odd, though, you gotta admit.
    It has been my long-held belief that any thread that goes long enough will morph into a gun or food thread.

    hand off…
    the 2nd amendment should be dumped


  50. lobo91
    50 | February 26, 2013 7:23 pm

    @ heysoos:

    hand off…
    the 2nd amendment should be dumped

    You’re setting your sights too low. There are left-wing professors out there saying that we should ditch the entire Constitution.


  51. heysoos
    51 | February 26, 2013 7:25 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    hand off…
    the 2nd amendment should be dumped
    You’re setting your sights too low. There are left-wing professors out there saying that we should ditch the entire Constitution.

    fuck it….
    anarchy…meet you at Ft. Raton


  52. citizen_q
    52 | February 26, 2013 7:27 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Hypocrisy? What about the idiots like fineswine, coumo, and o’malley whose first sentence is how they support the 2nd Amendment, to proceed to destroy it.

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    Still odd, though, you gotta admit.
    It has been my long-held belief that any thread that goes long enough will morph into a gun or food thread.

    There ya go!


  53. Moe Katz
    53 | February 26, 2013 7:27 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    hand off…
    the 2nd amendment should be dumped
    You’re setting your sights too low. There are left-wing professors out there saying that we should ditch the entire Constitution.

    Constitution shmonstitution ;)


  54. Speranza
    54 | February 26, 2013 7:29 pm

    Regarding Chuck Hagel and Rand Paul’s vote to confirm him

    AG @AG_Conservative

    Whether it’s the Christie decision on Medicaid or Paul’s vote on Hagel, these things are predictable if you don’t idolize politicians.


  55. lobo91
    55 | February 26, 2013 7:30 pm

    Some former Anheuser-Busch employees are filing suit against the company, claiming that they water down their product.

    How could anyone tell?


  56. 56 | February 26, 2013 7:34 pm

    @ lobo91:
    The recycled beer comes out a lighter color? :)


  57. heysoos
    57 | February 26, 2013 7:35 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Some former Anheuser-Busch employees are filing suit against the company, claiming that they water down their product.
    How could anyone tell?

    like Red Stripe…
    waiting for a buzz…
    still waiting


  58. 58 | February 26, 2013 7:46 pm

    To steal a line from Slow Joe Biden, “One word, Shiner Bock”!


  59. heysoos
    59 | February 26, 2013 7:50 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    To steal a line from Slow Joe Biden, “One word, Shiner Bock”!

    Sloe Gin Joe?


  60. lobo91
    60 | February 26, 2013 8:21 pm

    Now they’re using the troops:

    More Pathetic White House Sequester Fear Mongering…


  61. Da_Beerfreak
    61 | February 26, 2013 8:25 pm

    Hagel’s First Day :twisted:


  62. heysoos
    62 | February 26, 2013 8:26 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Hagel’s First Day

    heh…nice snag
    at least he found the door


  63. lobo91
    63 | February 26, 2013 8:33 pm

    @ lobo91:

    That thing really pisses me off.

    The reason the troops are getting screwed in this deal is because the Democrats set it up that way.

    Of course, they’re probably sending out similar tweets about every other favored constituency group with a different picture. The only people they think should “bear” any “burden” are “the rich.”


  64. waldensianspirit
    64 | February 26, 2013 8:41 pm

    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud


  65. heysoos
    65 | February 26, 2013 8:42 pm

    @ lobo91:
    the whole thing is a fake, a dodge…
    the feds will stab you every time, just takes a wink or a nod


  66. Moe Katz
    66 | February 26, 2013 8:46 pm

    Iran censors FLOTUS’s dress.

    As usual, apologies if someone else posted the item already.


  67. coldwarrior
    67 | February 26, 2013 8:49 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud

    well, thats a bit over the top.

    follow any politician long enough and he will cast a vote ya dont like. so far i am quite pleased with rand.


  68. brookly red
    68 | February 26, 2013 8:52 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud

    well, thats a bit over the top.

    follow any politician long enough and he will cast a vote ya dont like. so far i am quite pleased with rand.

    whatever just burn it down.


  69. BatGuano
    69 | February 26, 2013 8:55 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud

    well, thats a bit over the top.
    follow any politician long enough and he will cast a vote ya dont like. so far i am quite pleased with rand.

    I had no problem with rand before. I don’t understand why he thinks Hagel will be a good sec def.


  70. heysoos
    70 | February 26, 2013 8:56 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud

    well, thats a bit over the top.
    follow any politician long enough and he will cast a vote ya dont like. so far i am quite pleased with rand.

    not the hill to die on…in this admin SecDef is a poodle


  71. heysoos
    71 | February 26, 2013 8:58 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud
    well, thats a bit over the top.
    follow any politician long enough and he will cast a vote ya dont like. so far i am quite pleased with rand.

    I had no problem with rand before. I don’t understand why he thinks Hagel will be a good sec def.

    good or bad is subjective…Hagel is usable, he’s a puppet


  72. coldwarrior
    72 | February 26, 2013 8:59 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    I had no problem with rand before. I don’t understand why he thinks Hagel will be a good sec def.

    dont know, dont care. no matter who 0 picks its gonna be bad. so whats the point fighting? the senate isnt going to vote no on hagel anyway. we got bigger fish to fry later.


  73. lobo91
    73 | February 26, 2013 8:59 pm

    GOP Rep. Steve Stockman Demands White House And OFA Records On Gun Control Push That Used Phony Twitter Accounts…

    I’m sure they’ll get right on this.

    Right after they release the information about Benghazi.


  74. heysoos
    74 | February 26, 2013 9:00 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    I had no problem with rand before. I don’t understand why he thinks Hagel will be a good sec def.
    dont know, dont care. no matter who 0 picks its gonna be bad. so whats the point fighting? the senate isnt going to vote no on hagel anyway. we got bigger fish to fry later.

    yup, exactly


  75. coldwarrior
    75 | February 26, 2013 9:00 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    Rand Paul = Ron Paul
    Complete fraud
    well, thats a bit over the top.
    follow any politician long enough and he will cast a vote ya dont like. so far i am quite pleased with rand.

    not the hill to die on…in this admin SecDef is a poodle

    they guy who came up with the idea to confiscate 401k’s and replace them with iou’s is going to be appointed treasury chief.

    now that IS a hill to fight on.


  76. lobo91
    76 | February 26, 2013 9:01 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    they guy who came up with the idea to confiscate 401k’s and replace them with iou’s is going to be appointed treasury chief.

    now that IS a hill to fight on.

    He’s going to be confirmed with no problem.


  77. coldwarrior
    77 | February 26, 2013 9:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Right after they release the information about Benghazi.

    i must be missing something, who is this ben ghazi dude? is he a fashion designer or something?

    no, wait, didnt he host the oscars or something?


  78. coldwarrior
    78 | February 26, 2013 9:02 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    they guy who came up with the idea to confiscate 401k’s and replace them with iou’s is going to be appointed treasury chief.
    now that IS a hill to fight on.
    He’s going to be confirmed with no problem.

    probably. hold on to your wallets!


  79. 79 | February 26, 2013 9:04 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Screw that, Vote your convictions or STFU! I will never support Rand Paul again.


  80. Da_Beerfreak
    80 | February 26, 2013 9:06 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Already passed out of committee with a bi-partisan vote. It’s a done deal at this point. :evil:


  81. BatGuano
    81 | February 26, 2013 9:07 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    I had no problem with rand before. I don’t understand why he thinks Hagel will be a good sec def.
    dont know, dont care. no matter who 0 picks its gonna be bad. so whats the point fighting? the senate isnt going to vote no on hagel anyway. we got bigger fish to fry later.

    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.


  82. heysoos
    82 | February 26, 2013 9:07 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Screw that, Vote your convictions or STFU! I will never support Rand Paul again.

    conviction along with it’s cousin, principle, is dead…everybody involved in this sequester fraud is looking out for their own ass…that’s what our govt is all about, elections…win and you are rich…voting is an afterthought…vote all you want, you lose amigo


  83. lobo91
    83 | February 26, 2013 9:08 pm

    @ coldwarrior:

    probably. hold on to your wallets!

    Fortunately, I’ve outsmarted them.

    I have no money.


  84. coldwarrior
    84 | February 26, 2013 9:09 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.

    perhaps they thought, and probably rightly so, that hagel was the best they were going to get from 0.


  85. coldwarrior
    85 | February 26, 2013 9:10 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    probably. hold on to your wallets!
    Fortunately, I’ve outsmarted them.
    I have no money.

    cunning tactics!


  86. 86 | February 26, 2013 9:10 pm

    @ heysoos:
    I already think we are headed to the Third Box!


  87. BatGuano
    87 | February 26, 2013 9:12 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Already passed out of committee with a bi-partisan vote. It’s a done deal at this point.

    Sorry I misunderstand your electoral comment. I read electoral college into it.


  88. Da_Beerfreak
    88 | February 26, 2013 9:12 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    One will never know now if Plan B was a lesbian from Code Pink… :shock:


  89. coldwarrior
    89 | February 26, 2013 9:14 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    One will never know now if Plan B was a lesbian from Code Pink…

    couldd be.

    still, sec def works for the president. prez tells him what he wants, and bingo. its policy.


  90. BatGuano
    90 | February 26, 2013 9:14 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.
    perhaps they thought, and probably rightly so, that hagel was the best they were going to get from 0.

    Perhaps, but anyone on this website would be better.No one registered here is an idiot (myself excluded).


  91. Guggi
    91 | February 26, 2013 9:14 pm

    With the election in Italy and Beppe Grillo as a rising political star, the EU is also screwed. Btw.: Grillo is an ugly anti-Semite and a feverish supporter of Iran.


  92. Da_Beerfreak
    92 | February 26, 2013 9:14 pm

    @ BatGuano:
    Not a problem, I’ve done similar stuff myself… :oops:


  93. coldwarrior
    93 | February 26, 2013 9:15 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    Perhaps, but anyone on this website would be better.No one registered here is an idiot (myself excluded).

    none of us would be appointed by 0.


  94. heysoos
    94 | February 26, 2013 9:18 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    @ coldwarrior:
    One will never know now if Plan B was a lesbian from Code Pink…

    couldd be.
    still, sec def works for the president. prez tells him what he wants, and bingo. its policy.

    yup, he’s just another noodle in the stew…he’ll probably regret this someday, but put a carrot in front of an ass, he’ll snap at it every time…pols have no self control and will ascend as fast as the Peter Principle allows


  95. coldwarrior
    95 | February 26, 2013 9:23 pm

    @ heysoos:

    sec def doenst make policy. the president does. sec def carries out the executive wished of the president. if he does not, he is fired.

    sec def is a conduit by which executive policy is carried out. so i’m not all in a huff about this.


  96. heysoos
    96 | February 26, 2013 9:27 pm

    I hate self absorbed me freaks, a natural path for politicians…so I hate politicians for the most part, there was an honest politician spotted a couple years ago down around Mobile, but it was never actually confirmed…so I got all these liars, cheats, these fancy cameos humping my leg, millionaires begging for money so if elected they become even richer…I’m trying to roll a joint but some voice is yelling for me to rescue the babies starving down the street and I have to check a box before I come to my senses…I just fucking hate what the feds have to this country, to me and all you brothers and sisters…I am heavily burdened with what will happen to my kids, my children, my babies will suffer and I tell you that pisses me off big time


  97. waldensianspirit
    97 | February 26, 2013 9:29 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.

    Rand Paul voted his heart. Period


  98. Moe Katz
    98 | February 26, 2013 9:29 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    sec def doenst make policy. the president does. sec def carries out the executive wished of the president. if he does not, he is fired.
    sec def is a conduit by which executive policy is carried out. so i’m not all in a huff about this.

    I think the concern is that this particular choice of secretary of defense may indicate the policy direction the administration wants to go in.


  99. 99 | February 26, 2013 9:30 pm

    @ heysoos:

    أوباما may be an Apostate but he’s THEIR Apostate!


  100. Moe Katz
    100 | February 26, 2013 9:30 pm

    Cannibalism in North Korea.


  101. coldwarrior
    101 | February 26, 2013 9:31 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    I think the concern is that this particular choice of secretary of defense may indicate the policy direction the administration wants to go in.

    ummm, yeah.

    the prez isnt going to pick someone who disagrees with him.


  102. heysoos
    102 | February 26, 2013 9:31 pm

    @ Moe Katz:
    yes, thanks, I had that figured out


  103. coldwarrior
    103 | February 26, 2013 9:31 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.
    Rand Paul voted his heart. Period

    and his heart is?


  104. Bumr50
    104 | February 26, 2013 9:32 pm

    How loooooow, can yoo gooooooo?

    GOP Rep. Steve Stockman Demands White House And OFA Records On Gun Control Push That Used Phony Twitter Accounts…

    Republican Rep. Steve Stockman on Tuesday pressed President Obama and his de facto campaign arm, Organizing for Action, for more information on White House gun-control efforts, amid new allegations that Obama supporters are flooding congressional Twitter accounts with “phony” and “fraudulent” anti-gun messages.

    The Texas congressman said he sent letters to both the White House and OFA after learning Monday that he and 15 other Capitol Hill lawmakers had received computer-generated tweets that included the #WeDemandAVote hashtag — which Obama encouraged supporters to use.

    “I am deeply troubled by this week’s revelation supporters of President Obama’s anti-gun campaign employed ‘spambots’ to send fake Twitter messages to members of Congress intending to create the false appearance of grassroots support,” he wrote.


  105. waldensianspirit
    105 | February 26, 2013 9:33 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hagelish


  106. coldwarrior
    106 | February 26, 2013 9:35 pm

    so, lemme get this straight, if 0 nominated someone at sec def who said nice things about israel and bad things about iran yet still carried out the orders of the pres and his policies, how would the end result be different?


  107. waldensianspirit
    108 | February 26, 2013 9:38 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hagel’s views are Rand Paul’s views


  108. Guggi
    109 | February 26, 2013 9:39 pm

    I didn’t know that the job of SoD is such an unimportant job.


  109. coldwarrior
    110 | February 26, 2013 9:39 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    AP Report: Obama Considering Supplying Arms Directly To Rebels In Syria…
    Lovely

    arm both sides, let them massacre each other


  110. 111 | February 26, 2013 9:40 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    It would occupy more of Odumbos time to give him detailed instructions!


  111. lobo91
    112 | February 26, 2013 9:41 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    I didn’t know that the job of SoD is such an unimportant job.

    It is in this administration.

    Valerie Jarrett runs everything out of the White House. The various Cabinet secretaries just follow orders.


  112. waldensianspirit
    113 | February 26, 2013 9:42 pm

    Study boosts link between flu vaccine, sleep disorder
    Bingo!


  113. BatGuano
    114 | February 26, 2013 9:42 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    waldensianspirit wrote:
    BatGuano wrote:
    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.
    Rand Paul voted his heart. Period

    and his heart is?

    Antisemitic.


  114. heysoos
    115 | February 26, 2013 9:42 pm

    Guggi wrote:

    it’s pure glam…the job actually means nothing and should be abolished…it’s the front edge where real security becomes political…thus, usually weakening security


  115. coldwarrior
    116 | February 26, 2013 9:42 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hagel’s views are Rand Paul’s views

    then sit it out if he runs for president. no skin off my nose.


  116. lobo91
    117 | February 26, 2013 9:43 pm

    AZOlddog wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    It would occupy more of Odumbos time to give him detailed instructions!

    There are about a gazillion deputy secretaries and undersecretaries and deputy undersecretaries who actually run the place.

    Hagel just has to be able to find his way to his office. They’ll issue him an Etch-a-Sketch and tell him it’s a laptop.


  117. heysoos
    118 | February 26, 2013 9:44 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    AP Report: Obama Considering Supplying Arms Directly To Rebels In Syria…
    Lovely

    arm both sides, let them massacre each other

    drop 6 million cluster bombs across Syria…problem solved


  118. waldensianspirit
    119 | February 26, 2013 9:44 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    then sit it out if he runs for president. no skin off my nose.

    You bet. I’m an internationalist!


  119. heysoos
    120 | February 26, 2013 9:46 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    then sit it out if he runs for president. no skin off my nose.
    You bet. I’m an internationalist!

    I’m not any sort of ist than I can think off…maybe NFList or bluesist


  120. coldwarrior
    121 | February 26, 2013 9:47 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    BatGuano wrote:
    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.
    Rand Paul voted his heart. Period
    and his heart is?

    Antisemitic.

    the american jewish vote broke how in the presidential election?

    if the majority of jewish voters voted for obama, then this pick is exactly what a majority of them wanted? is it not?

    no matter who 0 picked, its bad for israel. so this is no surprise and even if hagel were defeated, the next would have been worse. obama made a brilliant pick here and we are all falling for it. lets fight amongst ourselves over a policy conduit.


  121. 122 | February 26, 2013 9:48 pm

    @ heysoos:

    OR Israel could drop a 300KT device on Damn Ass Cuss…problem solved.


  122. coldwarrior
    123 | February 26, 2013 9:48 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    There are about a gazillion deputy secretaries and undersecretaries and deputy undersecretaries who actually run the place.

    the permanent bureaucrats run the pentagon. secdef goes to nice dinners and glad-hands at meetings.


  123. 124 | February 26, 2013 9:49 pm

    @ lobo91:
    Oh I know the Puzzle Palace all to well. Hagel is still so damn dumb the Odumbo or ValJar will have to coach him on every time he opens his mouth!

    Of course the LSM will cover for every fuck up he does!


  124. BatGuano
    125 | February 26, 2013 9:50 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hagel becoming secdef was a fait acompli but I would’t vote for him.


  125. Moe Katz
    126 | February 26, 2013 9:51 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    OR Israel could drop a 300KT device on Damn Ass Cuss…problem solved.

    Hey, Macker, I think you confused Lily the other day with that “Paki” interjection that came out of the blue.

    Ra-a-acist.

    /


  126. Da_Beerfreak
    127 | February 26, 2013 9:51 pm

    Saudis Step Up Help for Rebels in Syria With Croatian Arms

    Somebody had to replace the weapons that were being funneled through our “consulate” and “warehouse” in Benghazi… :roll:


  127. citizen_q
    128 | February 26, 2013 9:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    AP Report: Obama Considering Supplying Arms Directly To Rebels In Syria…
    Lovely

    Directly?

    No more ambassadors volunteering?

    /


  128. coldwarrior
    129 | February 26, 2013 9:54 pm

    BatGuano wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Hagel becoming secdef was a fait acompli but I would’t vote for him.

    no matter what happened the outcome is the same for israel and the US. why burn political capital over something that you cant change. i cant fault rand for this too much. i am certainly not willing to throw the well worn anti-semite card at him because i have seen no real proof of this charge.

    well that was fun. but i gotta go to bed. see yinz later!


  129. heysoos
    130 | February 26, 2013 9:54 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    BatGuano wrote:
    coldwarrior wrote:
    waldensianspirit wrote:
    BatGuano wrote:
    I don’t understand. Why did he and the other repubs vote yes. Hagel is incompetent. You can vote no and still fry many fish.
    Rand Paul voted his heart. Period
    and his heart is?
    Antisemitic.

    the american jewish vote broke how in the presidential election?
    if the majority of jewish voters voted for obama, then this pick is exactly what a majority of them wanted? is it not?
    no matter who 0 picked, its bad for israel. so this is no surprise and even if hagel were defeated, the next would have been worse. obama made a brilliant pick here and we are all falling for it. lets fight amongst ourselves over a policy conduit.

    agreed…it’s a back burner sort of thing at this point..the GOP has to try and protect themselves and this is a petty thing…even the libs know Hagel is an idiot, that’s why he’s there…he’s probably scared to death of BO…Hagel is just spackle over a hole, not perfect but the hole is gone…sometimes you’re the clubs, sometimes you’re the bag


  130. BatGuano
    131 | February 26, 2013 9:56 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Good night.


  131. Moe Katz
    132 | February 26, 2013 9:56 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    Arguably, though, a rejection of Hagel might have served as a shot across the administration’s bow.


  132. heysoos
    133 | February 26, 2013 9:58 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Arguably, though, a rejection of Hagel might have served as a shot across the administration’s bow.

    Hagel is a dead fish…fertilizer


  133. Moe Katz
    134 | February 26, 2013 9:59 pm

    @ heysoos:
    That stinky, huh?


  134. BatGuano
    135 | February 26, 2013 9:59 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Arguably, though, a rejection of Hagel might have served as a shot across the administration’s bow.

    No, that is not the republican way. That would be too manly.Republicans put their butts in the air and ask for it.


  135. 136 | February 26, 2013 10:00 pm

    @ Moe Katz:

    [Sends the Spelling Police to Moe Katz's residence]


  136. waldensianspirit
    137 | February 26, 2013 10:00 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    Hagel is a dead fish…fertilizer

    Yet he still stands upright


  137. 138 | February 26, 2013 10:00 pm

    @ BatGuano:

    What about the 15 Republicans who voted for Closure?

    Alexander
    Ayotte
    Blunt
    Burr
    Chambliss
    Coburn
    Collins
    Corker
    Flake
    Graham
    Hatch
    McCain
    Murkowski
    Sessions
    Thune

    Are they anti-Semites? Paul’s vote for confirmation was meaningless. He voted against closure and changed to yes when he was going to get confirmed anyway. If he’s an anti-Semite, then so are these Republicans I listed above.


  138. heysoos
    139 | February 26, 2013 10:01 pm

    Moe Katz wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    That stinky, huh?

    he blew away the ‘no vote’ record for a SecDef…he’s a doormat


  139. 140 | February 26, 2013 10:02 pm

    @ Rodan:

    One thing is for sure…they’re all a bunch of Effeminates!


  140. BatGuano
    141 | February 26, 2013 10:05 pm

    @ Rodan:
    I might have been hasty in calling him an antisemite because I had never thought of him that way before.
    They only other explanation, as I inferred from you post, is that he only wanted to be on the side that’s winning.Positively 4th street.
    He loses either way.


  141. 142 | February 26, 2013 10:06 pm

    @ Macker:

    Its time Republican voters stop getting worked up. The Party gets everyone worked up and then backs off.


  142. BatGuano
    143 | February 26, 2013 10:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    Hagel is a dead fish…fertilizer
    Yet he still stands upright

    I’m sure he hasn’t been erect for years.


  143. Da_Beerfreak
    144 | February 26, 2013 10:11 pm

    U.S. Tax dollars at work:
    Humanitarian Malfeasance
    UN is responsible for killing more than 8,000 Haitians since 2010. And it’s not even willing to say it’s sorry.

    Reason number 31,415,926,535,897,932,384,626,433,832,795 for getting out of the UN.


  144. 145 | February 26, 2013 10:11 pm

    @ Rodan:
    Unfortunately two of those votes to end cloture were my freaking Senators! It is also why I why never support either of them also.


  145. 146 | February 26, 2013 10:17 pm

    @ BatGuano:

    Not even Viagra helps Hagel!

    :lol:


  146. 147 | February 26, 2013 10:19 pm

    @ AZOlddog:

    McCain and his friend Flake!

    :lol:

    Those 15, that was the McCain gang.


  147. 148 | February 26, 2013 10:22 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    @ AZOlddog:
    McCain and his friend Flake!

    Those 15, that was the McCain gang.

    I won’t even say here what we call them down here! Maybe at my place that has a X rated disclaimer!


  148. Da_Beerfreak
    149 | February 26, 2013 10:42 pm

    Magpul Industries Corp. Facebook Announcement

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    Just scroll down to read the whole page. No need to sign up or log in.


  149. heysoos
    150 | February 26, 2013 11:01 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    patriots…I love those guys, they put a price on their principle


  150. 151 | February 27, 2013 8:34 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Some former Anheuser-Busch employees are filing suit against the company, claiming that they water down their product.
    How could anyone tell?

    I’m old enough to remember when they used to make fairly good beer.


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