Say what you want about Newt Gingrich but unlike other Republican analysts, he lives in reality. During his Presidential run, he warned Republicans that if they do not start to appeal to a broader electorate, they would lose. he unfortunately ended up be right. Despite his prophetic warning, many Republican establishment types like Karl Rove and Mitt Romney’s consultant Stuart Stevens continue to live in a delusional world.
Karl Rove a man who blew 400 million in 2012 and had nothing to show for it has decided to go to war against the “Tea Party.” What Rove misses is that movement is dead as it was hijacked by others with ulterior motives ( example: Sharon Angle) and the media’s demonization of the movement because of the hijackers, who probably were false flag operatives. What Rove really wants to do is play political boss and keep his stranglehold on the Republican Party. Never in the history of humanity has an organization given so much power to a man who blew 400 Million dollars!
Stuart Stevens is another establishment buffoon. As Romney campaign manager, who writes off sections of the electorate and this created a backlash against Romney. Stuart did not realize the demographics have changed and tried to appeal to this new electorate. He also misled Romney on strategy and lied using phony data. Mitt Romney went into election night, thinking he had won because of Stuart’s lies.
Newt Gingrich eviscerates Karl Rove and Stuart Stevens over their outdated views of the electorate and political strategies.
First, Rove.
I am unalterably opposed to a bunch of billionaires financing a boss to pick candidates in 50 states. This is the opposite of the Republican tradition of freedom and grassroots small town conservatism
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However there are going to be some very powerful opponents to any serious rethinking of Republican doctrines and strategies. It is appalling how little some Republican consultants have learned from the 2012 defeat. It is even more disturbing how arrogant their plans for the future are.
Of course these consultants have made an amazing amount of money asserting an expertise they clearly don’t have. They have existed in a system in which the candidate was supposed to focus on raising money and the smart consultant would design the strategy, spend the money and do the thinking.
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While Rove would like to argue his “national nomination machine” will protect Republicans from candidates like those who failed in Missouri and Indiana, that isn’t the bigger story.
Republicans lost winnable senate races in Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Florida. So in seven of the nine losing races, the Rove model has no candidate-based explanation for failure. Our problems are deeper and more complex than candidates.
Handing millions to Washington based consultants to destroy the candidates they dislike and nominate the candidates they do like is an invitation to cronyism, favoritism and corruption
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Stuart Stevens represents a very different problem. Based on our time together on This Week on ABC last Sunday, it seems he is indifferent to the facts and has no sense of responsibility for a presidential campaign that he dominated. Jonathan Karl did a great job drawing out some amazing opinions.
On the disastrous Romney collapse among Latino voters (it was worse, by the way, with Asian Americans), Stuart responded as though the campaign were irrelevant.
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The Romney campaign decision to savage first Governor Perry and then me on immigration destroyed any chance to build a Latino-Asian appeal. The Romney formula of self-deportation (which must have seemed clever when invented) led to a collapse of acceptability. The most powerful Obama ad in Spanish language media was Romney talking about self deportation.
The fact that Stevens can’t acknowledge any of this tells you how hard it will be for some in the consultant class to learn anything about winning in the 21st century.
Newt Gingrich is spot on and he hints at something I have suspected. The 2012 Republican Presidential campaign was really a money making scam by washed up Consultants. Both Karl Rove and Stuart Stevens, deceived their candidates and Conservatives voters that Republicans were going to win in 2012. They published crappy polls and ignored real ones that showed Obama with a lead and the true makeup of the electorate.
This attitude of denial about the election and polls did not just mislead Romney, Republican voters were misled. Talk Show radio hosts and Conservative blogs (not this one), lied to their listeners and readers. They told their audience to ignore the polls and that Romney was a cinch to win. This led to the creation of the stupid unskewed polls website which was run by a con artist and was promoted by many Conservative blogs. Too many Conservatives were kept in a bubble to the reality of the election. This bubble was created by Republican consultants like Karl Rove and Stuart Stevens who deceived Romney and Republican voters.
Despite Newt Gingrich’s observations, nothing much has changed since November 6th 2012. Karl Rove is still powerful and many Republicans are denial. Because of this, we are on the verge of a one Party Country where the Democrats will win every Presidential election for the next few cycles. If the GOP does not change its strategy and tactics, they will become irrelevant and could well vanish as a Party after 2016. One way to begin to change is to purge losers like Karl Rove and Stuart Stevens. Until this happens, Republicans will keep losing and Americans do not like losers.
Tags: Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Stuart Stevens
Dang. Slow time of day. Maybe a signpost below might help…
Mike C. wrote:
Something I’ve been wanting to ask you, OT. How many gallons are in a “barrel” of oil? U.S. gallons or Imperial gallons?
From up here, I don’t know who Stuart Stevens is. Hard for me to get into the topic. Sorry.
Rove is a pig.
yenta-fada wrote:
Well now you know who he is. He was the hapless campaign adviser to Romney.
yenta-fada wrote:
42 gallons
The Consultant Class don’t really care about pushing an agenda, or even winning. They care about keeping the fat paychecks coming to themselves. Why anyone would trust Rove or Stevens after all of this is beyond me. Rove showed how useless his line of thinking is in this last election. It isn’t like he won big. Sarah Palin has a better track record of picking winners than Karl Rove does.
Romney’s dopey son saying that his dad never really wanted to run was like a major kick to the shins to those of us who contributed to him.
Yeah…those positions will sell real well in Kentucky…
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yenta-fada wrote:
42 US gallons.
Speranza wrote:
I often wonder if much of the GOP are there to simply give the appearance of a choice. Guess I am getting grumpy and cynical as I age.
It’s not clear how Rove and Stevens ‘lied’. I believe they used bad models, thinking that the 2008 models would not apply -- as it turned out they obviously did. I can think of 2 analysts who got it right -- Scott Rasmussen and Larry Sabato.
But it is clear to me that Stevens is a dissembler. The other day when he denied any media bias against Romney was a whopper. If he actually believes that he has no business near a campaign for dog catcher. But he doesn’t believe it. He’s just trying to stay in the good graces of the MSM.
And lest we forget 2 of the most malicious establishment republicans, Steve Schwartz who was McCain’s campaign manager and Nicole Wallace, McCain’s communications director. Both undermined Sarah Palin with the MSM and didn’t give a rat’s ass what it did to their candidate.
@ lobo91:
@ Mike C.:
Thanks!
@ yenta-fada:
check yer mail gurl
@ eaglesoars:
Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace are two other vile creatures. They are still trashing Palin.
Mike C. wrote:
Huh, did not know that… I assumed 55 as like a 55 gallon oil drum.
@ citizen_q:
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You are not alone.
@ lobo91:
She’s on her way to a win!
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She’s in the wrong state. Maybe she can convince Dianne Feinstein to give up her seat in 2016 and run in Cali.
more chores -- gotta hop
citizen_q wrote:
well look how they responded to the T-party… kinda leaves no doubt.
Iron Fist wrote:
You got it, the Consultant Class are a bunch of scam artists who swindled Republican voters out of money.
@ brookly red:
They hijacked it and destroyed it.
Rodan wrote:
hijacked yes, destroyed? I am not sure… it might come back in search of braaaains. Literally.
eaglesoars wrote:
Yes! Replied.
eaglesoars wrote:
Nicolle (two “l’s” by the way) Wallace is a real *****.
@ Speranza:
She’s a nasty backstabber. I despise her.
@ brookly red:
In retrospect the Tea Party should have organized, come up with a platform and go 3rd party. But it’s all crying over spilled milk.
Romney would not have had an essentially different foreign policy.
October 10, 2012, -- 5:07 pm
Romney: “I’ll Recommit US to Goal of Palestinian State, Fund/Arm Syrian Rebels” & Other Obama-esque BS
yenta-fada wrote:
Part of the reason romney lose was becasue he supported going to war over Syria. I had 5 coworkers who told me they did not vote for Romney over that.
Republicans need to drop the nation building democracy spreading garbage.
Rodan wrote:
The Tea Party would be the scapegoat along with the Republicans no matter how much they organized. They don’t have the money/media/race
machine.
yenta-fada wrote:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/26/illegal-immigrants-released-detention-centers-sequ/ grrrrrr…
@ yenta-fada:
In retrospect, Romney did little to distinguish himself from Obama. He felt (because his consultants told him so) that all he hasd to do was provide a credible picture of him as President, and Obama’s negatives would destroy him. That simply did not happen. Much of that was because the media was point man and lap dog for Obama. There were any number of scandals that should have brought Obama down, but the media soft-peddled them. Likewise, the unemployment numbers alone should have destroyed Obama. The unemployed slackers of the Millinal Generation showed up in droves to vote for the man most responsible for their unemployment. They’ve accepted this as the best deal that they can get.
@ Rodan:
Most U.S. politicians seem like they would be fine with Sharia Law in the U.S. They aren’t keen on ‘nation building’ in their own nation.
brookly red wrote:
From the article,
“Over the last week, ICE has reviewed several hundred cases and placed these individuals on methods of supervision less costly than detention,”
hahahahahahaha. What comes after cynical?
brookly red wrote:
55 gallon drums are the common standard for many chemicals these days. But oil “barrels” were standardized back when barrels were still, well, barrels (made of wood), and oil was actualy bought, sold and shipped in them. That’s been a while.
@ yenta-fada:
Most US politicians have no problem sending Americans overseas to die for the Caliphate.
@ Iron Fist:
You the difference between Republican Consultants and Democrat Consultants? The Democrat Consultants believe in winning at all costs and actually believe in their cuase. The Republican Consulatnts just want a paycheck.
That’s the difference. Newt reallly exposed that.
Rodan wrote:
Republicans cannot impose democracy in the middle east mainly because the middle east doesn’t want it. They want to choose their oppressors.
BatGuano wrote:
I think we may have caught some of that too…
BatGuano wrote:
Actually, that sounds like a paradoxical statement.
brookly red wrote:
Now that you mention it, I think we caught a ****load of it.
@ BatGuano:
Not really. Islamic Democracy == One man, one vote, one time. Look at how long the Palestinians have gone without an election, yet we give in to the fiction that they are a functioning government, legitimate, and all that. Of course, when the Palestinians vote, they vote for terrorists. Like you said, choosing their oppressors. That’s all they want.
@ BatGuano:
Exactly and I for the life of me why the GOP hangs onto this braindead idea. Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya should be proof.
Rodan wrote:
the only thing I can think of is there must be money to be made somehow.
@ brookly red:
Yup and some payoffs from Qatar and the House of Saud.
@ Iron Fist:
It is the natural order of things under islam.
Sooner or later it reverts back to from. Look at turkey.
Rodan wrote:
George bush hearts the house of saud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R6QFwKWFpA
Okay, here’s your feel-good story of the day…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2284542/Art-Bouvier-Man-spots-Jhaqueil-Reagan-walking-10-miles-job-interview-gives-job.html?offset=0&max=100
The sad thing is having to read about it in a British newspaper.
Hat tip -- rayra at GCP
@ BatGuano:
Both him and Poppy were just saudi Subsidiaries.
Rodan wrote:
Wholly owned. But I would love to have either one of them in the white house now rather than this travesty of a president.
Finance Comittee endorsed Lew. That’s really no surprise. Oh, and some cowardly RINOs backed out of filibustering Hagel. I didn’t see whether John McCain was one of them, but it wouldn’t surprise me. He went after Hagel so that when his resistance collapsed, there’d be no on eleft to resist.
BatGuano wrote:
shit I would take Klinton back over 0
@ Iron Fist:
Want to bet the GOP caves on Sequester?
@ yenta-fada:
Hey, it worked really well when they tried it with Obama’s uncle, back in the late ’70s.
I hear he has another deportation hearing scheduled for sometime in December. Unless they push it back due to the sequester.
Or he doesn’t show up.
brookly red wrote:
hell yes…Clinton actually liked leading and playing politics, and he was generally a good enough POTUS…it’s the arrogance and malicious nature of BO that pisses people off…other than that he has no political skills at all
Iron Fist wrote:
This would have been a justifiable use of the filibuster: i.e., protect America from a person who can do great harm to our republic. It is more of a question of competence and Hagel is spectacularly incompetent, Although his views on Israel are enough of a reason to reject him.
@ Rodan:
It would be in character for them, but Obama wants sequester. He can cut defense and blame the Republicans. That’s why he proposed it in the first place. We lost the sequester vote when we raised the debt ceiling without substantive cuts. Boehner is useless as tits on a boar hog.
Rodan wrote:
well Boehner has been warned… http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/02/26/sen_ron_johnson_if_boehner_caves_he_will_lose_his_speakership.html
heysoos wrote:
actually he has all the skills of Mao Zedong
(note the complete absence of a sarc tag)
Rodan wrote:
They will cave, with some kind of “face saving” fiction. Me? Let the sequester begin!
Iron Fist wrote:
we could have a freaky situation… imagine if Boehner caves and Zero doesn’t accept it
I think Boehner with stand up this time…and it’s really not entirely his choice, by principle anyhow
BatGuano wrote:
if we have 10 sequesters it will start to resemble what these jerks were sent to Washington to do in the first place
@ Iron Fist:
Its a win win for Obama. Sequester goes through he blames Republicans for for “kids not getting vaccines” and if the GOP caves, he looks like a winner.
heysoos wrote:
I think you may be right sooner or latter O has to lose one
brookly red wrote:
F****** A bubba. Well told!
Rodan wrote:
ironic that his base are anti vacsers
brookly red wrote:
he’s got his own words, J Carney disputed BO’s claim, Woodward is on it…I can’t help but think BO can’t dodge this one…if Rodan’s right, that’s it for me…I’ll disown the whole thing and never vote again…I have my limits to being played for a stooge
Rodan wrote:
Not from The Onion…
@ BatGuano:
Yup, I do not have a problem with cutting the military either. We use it to fight for Islam. Our troops deserve betetr and I would rather we cut the military so we do not send Americans to do for Islamic interests.
I am tired of Americans dying for Muzz.
lobo91 wrote:
I heard that,
!
this is interesting…
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/26/left-wing-group-urges-obama-to-shut-down-campaign-group/
BatGuano wrote:
well yes… I get the idea that people forget that gubermint spending is the problem and we elected these mooks to reign it in.
@ lobo91:
There is not enough marijuana in the world to get this through. At least we know what the first director would look like.
@ heysoos:
I am already voting for the Libertarians in 2014 in Florida’s local elections. If they cave on Sequester, I will vote even for the Libertarians in 2014 at the Federal level.
They have caved too much.
Rodan wrote:
that’s an example of BO’s “leaner, more more effective govt”
@ Bumr50:
It’s their speciality.
More scare tactics:
This one might even seem plausible, to people who don’t know better.
First, this administration almost never investigates or prosecutes anyone for violations of federal gun laws as it is, so I doubt that anyone would notice a reduction.
And second, the idea that criminals buy guns from dealers is a joke. Since its inception almost 20 years ago, the NICS system has resulted in only a handful of actual prohibited persons being caught trying to buy a gun. Almost all of the tens of thousands of rejections they like to mention were “false positives” that were later allowed to proceed.
Rodan wrote:
I was all for war in Afghanistan. I was skeptical of Iraq. I am dead set against another American dieing in either of those medieval hell holes. We should have been out while George the second was still in office.We should leave immediately with a warning: Do not make us come back!
heysoos wrote:
Re: “If President Obama is serious about his often-expressed desire to rein in big money in politics, he should shut down Organizing for Action and disavow any plan to schedule regular meetings with its major donors,” said Bob Edgar, president of Common Cause, which helped pass the 2002 campaign finance law.”
I speak fluent democrat please allow me to translate for Mr. Edgar… Ahem, ” Are you fuckin crazy!11!1 we are all going to end up in fuckin prison !1!1!!”
@ heysoos:
Jay Carney on the OFA…
““It will not be engaged in political campaign-related activities … [but] has been organized to rally support for the president’s policy agenda,” he claimed.”
that’s some Hall Of Fame doubletalk….needs moar nuance?
BatGuano wrote:
Dennis Kucinich repeatedly proposed such a thing over the years, as well.
Basically, they just want to add an automatic “no” vote on the NSC.
I guess they forgot that we already have one, with Obama.
@ lobo91:
We already have one, when used properly.
It’s called the Department of Defense.
Att. PA residents:
@ lobo91:
My G-d! What a sicking and ultimately dangerous brew of naivety and delusion.
BatGuano wrote:
minor edit.
citizen_q wrote:
I particularly like the description of what they want it to be in charge of. Everything from international conflicts to stopping school bullying.
Because those two topics obviously go together…
lobo91 wrote:
well yes the do… the weak always get beat up and have their shit stolen.
brookly red wrote:
Shhh! That is what I meant.
Looks like John Kerry has already assumed that role:
for the neoRebs…somebody doesn’t think you’re crazy
http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/11/hannity-foresees-states-leaving-union-if-federal-government-continues-radicalized-abusive-pattern-video/
BatGuano wrote:
see I would have said, “if you don’t knock it off I am drop a bomb so big on you yo mama’s teeth are gonna be found in Australia”
Oh, please, God, make it stop.
Santorum Heads to Iowa
@ heysoos:
Most transparent in history!
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@ lobo91:
Remember Global test?
lobo91 wrote:
well if Benghazi has a sliver lining it is that’s O’s cronies are not exactly falling over themselves to get a chushy diplomatic assignment.
@ eaglesoars:
Santorum needs outside intervention.
eaglesoars wrote:
/isn’t a santourm where they send crazy people?
@ BatGuano:
Spot on!
@ brookly red:
He’s a Socialist scumbag. He is using Social issues to trick Conservatives.
I’m sure you have all heard La Hood, Napolitano, Obama et al., describe what would happen if the sequester occurs. We all have been in positions in our jobs where we were given difficult tasks: Increase production this much; cut costs this much; reduce over-time this much; reduce maintenance costs this much, etc. We did not have the luxury of saying, “We can’t do it and and all hell will break loose.”
We just did it.
arm bloodthirsty Muslims in Lybia, for no apparent benefit to the US…
disarm law abiding American citizens minding their own business…
why would ANYBODY be okay with this?
@ lobo91:
Didn’t take him long.
@ BatGuano:
That’s the difference between us and them.
Competence.
BatGuano wrote:
if you’re running a multi trillion dollar business and can’t find 2.4% to cut the budget, you should immediately fired for incompetence
BatGuano wrote:
minor difference… it was our own money.
And the hits keep coming…
Sanitorium.
Leave me be.
Off to dinner, stay classy my friends!
lobo91 wrote:
well by prescient now drug testing employees is unconstitutional too…
lobo91 wrote:
Cripes. I’ve been drug tested many times just to work.
@ brookly red:
GMTA
brookly red wrote:
Nope. Different basis.
Employers can mandate drug testing on the grounds of safety and liability.
I am gonna run out and play some numbers… anyone got a favorite
lobo91 wrote:
Raaaacist
brookly red wrote:
666 seems a likely choice today…
lobo91 wrote:
I was gonna say any but 666
42
BatGuano wrote:
gotta be 3 digit… is 042 OK?
@ brookly red:
Just the other day some whackjob or other claimed that requiring background checks was racist.
lobo91 wrote:
/it is… next you will want voter ID.
brookly red wrote:
Yes.The zero is merely a place holder.
Here we go:
BatGuano wrote:
OK if we win you have a choice. 250 bucks to the charity of your choice or I buy a shitload of ethnic food and send it to Rodan.
I guess Bill Ayers will be relieved that he doesn’t have to pass a background check:
lobo91 wrote:
it’s too sick to save… let’s just burn it down.
brookly red wrote:
if you giveit to charity it will be eaten up in administrative costs. If you send food to Rodan it will just be eaten. send it to Rodan.
God…Eric Bolling just said that the GOP should nominate Christie in 2016.
BatGuano wrote:
let’s win first…
lobo91 wrote:
fuck him and the horse he rode in on…
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/02/christie_budget_details.html#incart_river_default
Hannity on his radio show says that hagle was confirmed.
lobo91 wrote:
What Brookly said.
citizen_q wrote:
God help us all.
@ BatGuano:
The bad news keeps rolling in.
BatGuano wrote:
Not like it was a surprise
Using the sequester for fundraising:
@ lobo91:
legal blackmail…bunch of friggin mobsters
heysoos wrote:
Why expect anything different from this crowd?
lobo91 wrote:
And the supposed future leader for the Repubs Rand Paul voted yes! So much for the righteous little “l” libertarian! Primary all the losers!
BatGuano wrote:
not likely… we as a people earned his wrath, it shall be.
As I have been saying, there was never any doubt Hagel would be confirmed. Lew is next, and he’ll get confirmed, too.
Tanker wrote:
well it’s looks like full court press time against Israel. I guess we shouldn’t worry about the debt and the deficit this is the end of days.
Chuck Hagel’s Plan for U.S. Forces in ‘Palestine’
Tanker wrote:
Paul and Hagel have the same regard for Israel. which is none.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
yes and so it was written these folks are in for a surprise.
BatGuano wrote:
Like father like son.
well I guess there is no reason left for Israel not to take out Iran…
brookly red wrote:
Looks like they are on their own.
BatGuano wrote:
I shall never leave you nor forsake you … not quite alone.
brookly red wrote:
Touche’!
WW2.1
grab your Big Gulp
BatGuano wrote:
I would buy some iodine pills and if you have to ask why, don’t.
@ brookly red:
Say no more.
heysoos wrote:
dude I am in NYC…
@ brookly red:
Nurse Bloomberg and all.
Nap time.
BatGuano wrote:
there is nothing more to say.
brookly red wrote:
and probably on somebody’s target list
heysoos wrote:
well NYC is hated by the Muzz… a badge of honor. or did you mean me personally? that too I have learned to deal with
Hagel 58-41…blew away the no vote record which was 11 for SecDef…a small thing but he knows he’s not well liked, but he probably gets a far raise
@ brookly red:
@ brookly red:
you’d think there would be more Muslims here in ABQ, mild winters, sunshine and all…but the ones who do live here all work at Sandia Labs inventing then stealing secret weapons tech
@ Iron Fist:
They also want to choose who will be the most effective at making life for Jews and Christians…Hell!
Good article, but we have an uphill battle with this RINO. The liberal media loves to quote him when he runs down conservative or Tea Party candidates. So all the story’s they write about him won’t have the venom in them like they would if they were writing about a conservative. They’ll make him look like a reasonable man who’s up against an unreasonable, rightwing, racist, low IQ, gun loving, intolerant, Christian mob.
Sometimes those closest to you can stab you in the back and not be aware of it. Either that or he’s just another airhead. Everybody has one of those in their family. @ Speranza: