The so called “Israel lobby” (or as Chuckster Hagel referred to it as “the Jewish lobby”) cannot hold a candle to the Saudi lobby.
by Daniel Greenfield
The Israel Lobby which controls American foreign policy, but has thus far been unable to get the United States to stop funding the terrorists currently shooting rockets at its 14th largest city, has struck again as Senate Democrats voted unanimously to make Chuck Hagel the next Secretary of Defense.
The dreaded Israeli Lobby, Jewish Lobby, Israel Lobby or any other permutation of the form that you prefer, has largely kept silent during the Hagel nomination. The head of the ADL was heard to mutter something and the AJC suggested that the Senate should possibly rethink the nomination before falling silent again. As if anyone needed more proof that the Zionist Entity controls Washington.
AIPAC and all the other groups who regularly send out envelopes warning of disaster if the check doesn’t come in the mail have an amazing track record.
When Israel builds apartment buildings in its own capital city, the State Department, that branch of government which Hagel claimed was an adjunct of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, denounces the provocative act of putting one brick on top of another. Meanwhile Saudi Arabia arrests Christians for celebrating Christmas and you couldn’t pay the State Department to pay attention.
Pakistan was hiding Bin Laden and still rolls in the foreign aid. Egypt’s government is torturing protesters. Libya arrested Christian missionaries in Benghazi, but still can’t be bothered to arrest those responsible for the murder of Ambassador Stevens. The Palestinian Authority hasn’t held an election in forever and is actually paying the salaries of convicted terrorists.
[......] To hear them talk, East Jerusalem is the only thing standing in the way of peace in our time. And talk like that is just more evidence that the Israel Lobby really does run everything.
John Kerry, the new Secretary of State, gave Code Pink, the radical leftist Anti-War and Anti-Israel group, a pass to go see Hamas. John Brennan Islamized Jerusalem. Hagel blamed the Jewish Lobby for spoiling his milk. But what do you expect in a Washington D.C. run by the Israel Lobby?
There are constant dire warnings that Israel is about to pull the United States into a war. The number of wars that Israel has pulled the United States into clocks in at zero. The number of wars that the Saudis have pulled the United States into clocks in at three; if you count a Saudi terrorist funded by Saudis using a bunch of Saudis to ram planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
True aficionados of the nefarious Jewish Lobby however know that the House of Saud was framed by a few thousand Jews who showed up early to wire up the towers with C4 and then punched out before the flights arrived. That is if the planes weren’t just holograms full of passengers who never existed as part of a false flag operation against a fake terrorist group created by the CIA in a conspiracy to steal all the opium in Afghanistan.
And in the same way they know that Hagel really is an Israeli agent. Why else did the Jewish Lobby remain silent? And wasn’t it suspicious how Hagel seemed to hate Israel so much? [.......]What if beneath that mopey exterior that bespeaks a man who has spent his entire life watching a fly crawl across a window, beats the heart of a Semitic partisan who is just raring to begin bombing Iran as soon as he figures out how to make his executive chair go up and down?
Hagel’s triumph is a disappointment to them. It would have been better if he had gone down a martyr, his stumped visage adorning book covers alongside James Forrestal and Adlai Stevenson III as another victim of the lobby in the blue-and-white hotel. A brave truth-teller like Charles Freeman who wasn’t approved for a position chairing the National Intelligence Council for taking money from Saudi Arabia and China, and claiming that Tienanmen Square was a moderate response, but mostly because of the Israel Lobby.
There’s no question that the Israel Lobby is a truly impressive beast. Every now and then it convinces a bunch of senators to sign a letter calling for peace and a two-state solution while condemning the taxpayer supported terrorists who shoot rockets at Israeli cities. The letter doesn’t actually call for ending funding to the terrorists. It just asks the President or Secretary of State to review the situation and strongly urge the terrorists to stop shooting rockets because that endangers the future of the peace process.
[........]
Occasionally the Israel Lobby will get truly serious and a non-binding resolution of support will be introduced in Congress. Everyone will vote for it, even the senators and congressmen whose fondest wish is that Israel didn’t exist. [.......]
In a truly disturbing overreach of power, sometimes there will be a bill proposing to cut off aid to the terrorists unless they stop shooting rockets at Israeli cities. The bill will allow for a national security waiver by the president. And every president will employ the waiver making the bill slightly less useless than a non-binding resolution, but not in any way that can be pinned down.
Meanwhile the three-hundred blogs dedicated to exposing the Israel Lobby’s muzzling of dissent will denounce the bill and author six more books describing how the dreaded lobby makes it entirely impossible to discuss the conflict from the perspective that Israel is to blame for absolutely everything. This is a perspective that seldom appears in major newspapers and magazines and is absolutely never heard on CNN. You could go a whole five seconds without encountering it on any world news broadcast.
It’s not always clear what the Israel Lobby’s accomplishments really consist of. There’s a good deal of traffic between the interlocking American and Israeli defense industries that adds up to a sizable amount of foreign aid. [......] To say nothing of the Pakistani Hotel Taliban. Israel is doing better than Taiwan which can’t convince the United States to sell it any serious firepower for fear of offending China, and if folks like Hagel had their way, Israel might be in the same boat.
Beyond that, Israel and the United States have a mutual agreement. The State Department, an adjunct of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, will blame Israel for all of America’s troubles with the Muslim world, especially those caused by Saudi Arabia, and Israeli diplomats will attend negotiating sessions with terrorists that will fail and then accept responsibility for the failure.
The United States will provide foreign aid to Israel and the countries and terrorist groups trying to destroy it. This will be known as a pro-Israel policy because Israel will get more aid than the countries trying to destroy it giving it a qualitative advantage.
The United States will help fund the terrorists shooting rockets at Israeli cities and help fund the Israeli Iron Dome anti-rocket program, so that both sides are evened out. Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood will get fighter jets and tanks and Israel will get a visit from Obama. The last time Obama visited Egypt, it imploded, but when he visits Israel, he promises not to reduce the country to a violent civil war and urban anarchy. And so qualitative advantage is upheld once again due to the work of the Israel Lobby.
In one of his more brilliant moments, Hagel signed on to a report that called on Obama to present Israel with his own peace plan backed by a 60,000 NATO peacekeeping force deployed inside Israel that would include soldiers from Muslim countries. We have no idea if this latest brilliant plan will ever come to fruition, but carving up Israel like a turkey and deploying Muslim armies inside it is clearly another creation of the Israel Lobby.
It doesn’t sound like something the Saudi Lobby would come up with, does it?
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Tags: Chuck Hagel, Daniel Greenfield, John Kerry, Sultan Knish
The Jewish Lobby is a joke compared to the Arab Muslim Lobby. The House of Saud, Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood has clout in DC.
whats the breakdown on the Jewish-american vote?
NATO peacekeepers?…in Israel?
wha?
coldwarrior wrote:
less than 5% nationaly
heysoos wrote:
I wanted NK prace keepers
@ Rodan:
Well I know for sure the Muslim Brotherhood has been invited a heck lot more often to the White House than anything doing with Israel or the Jewish people.
@ brookly red:
How about one half of one percent, and yet we control the world, and to think I keep missing those secret meetings.
brookly red wrote:
What are NK prace keepers?
Flyovercountry wrote:
never discount good managers…
brookly red wrote:
NATO?…the guys that shit their pants when Hezz moved on Lebanon?
Lily wrote:
North Korean… after a year with them the Arabs and the Jews will finally agree on something
heysoos wrote:
The NK wouldn’t fear Hezz…
they might just eat them.
brookly red wrote:
no
dem v gop?
coldwarrior wrote:
like around 80/20
brookly red wrote:
There is a thought….
@ brookly red:
Cannible headhunter peace keepers? It’s the Middle East. That might work…
brookly red wrote:
You that is sad what NK is doing to most of it’s people…pure evil.
@ coldwarrior:
65-D/35-R
@ brookly red:
Romney improved the numbers. See above.
Iron Fist wrote:
I am telling you I put a lot of thought into this… it could work.
@ Lily:
Pimf…again….YOU = YES
/darn keyboard.
Rodan wrote:
good news, but did they like Romney or fear Obama?
Lily wrote:
Both Parties kiss the ass of the Muzz. Part of the reason Romney lost was because he wanted to invade Syria and help al-Qaeda. I know 5 people who voted against him over that.
@ brookly red:
And that was with Obama running as President, after he’d been as anti-Israeli as he’s been. I think the Dems can pretty much take the Jewish vote for granted, just like they take the black vote for granted. Nothing is likely to change that.
@ brookly red:
I am not Jewish and have no clue.
@ Iron Fist:
Although Romney did improve the numbers. In 2008 it was 80/20 and he got 65/35.
brookly red wrote:
Okay have you thought about shrunken heads??? When I think of cannibal headhunters….my next thought is of shrunken heads. It is just the natural flow of what thought is next. Have you figured this into your plans? If not then by all means do. Always be prepared.
What I do not get is why no one mentioned the Saudi lobby?
Rodan wrote:
I’d be an honorary Jew if someone bestowed me…tough underdogs with a very lethal bite…my kind of folks
Rodan wrote:
“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist”
Anyone want to bet The Saudis/Qatar fund OFA?
brookly red wrote:
I’d guess that they feared Obama.
@ heysoos:
Through Lebanese Maronite side, I am actually related to them. The Lebanese Maronites are Phoenicians and the Jews are Israelites. Both are related.
Look at an Israeli and a Lebanese Maronite. You see the resemblance.
@ brookly red:
True.
Rodan wrote:
now that’s an interesting notion…somebody should ask, on the record
Rodan wrote:
And to be truthful once all the facts were in hand I honestly don’t think that would have happened. And these people don’t think obama is going to help the rebels in Syria? They myriad of reasons why people didn’t vote for Romney astounds me…when you compare it to what obama has done, is doing and will do. It simply doesn’t compute to be honest. Romney was rich. BUZZ can’t vote for him..although obama is rich. Romney is Mormon. BUZZ can’t vote for him …although obama is at war with the religious. … it goes on and on.
Lily wrote:
the NKs don’t shrink heads… but they sure can seal a border. Come to think of it we should outsource our borders to them.
heysoos wrote:
You do know you can become Jewish…just believe in God and join the Jewish religion. There ya go.
Rodan wrote:
eff them they dint vote for us anyway…eff them they wont vote against us anyway.
III was right
Rodan wrote:
I don’t know much about it, but the you’re right…the Lebanese don’t give me the creeps like the Arabs further west
Lily wrote:
psssst… circumcision LOL
@ heysoos:
What makes you think you’d get an honest answer? It is like all the foreign money that’ll go into Obama’s “Library” fund. Where it comes from and where it really goes will never be asked nor answered if someone in the Press grows the balls to ask the question.
brookly red wrote:
Yep! It’s been working well too. The mafia has gone with this too.
@ Lily:
One answer: OFA!
Lily wrote:
what mafia?
@ heysoos:
DNA proves Lebanese are Phoenicians and not Arabs. Here’s an interesting note: Many Hispanics are partly Lebanese.
Iron Fist wrote:
I didn’t say I expect an honest answer, but the lie would sound good further down the road
brookly red wrote:
Yeah but doesn’t the South Koreans do good at that too? Or is that us doing it for them.
Flyovercountry wrote:
Math witch. Burn the witch!
When you mention that the world has a population over 6 billion and the number of Jews in the world is @ 6 million you usually get a blank stare.
If people don’t grok the math, we are heading to a new dark age.
brookly red wrote:
He’s American probably already done. Just saying.
heysoos wrote:
now we are getting somewhere
Rodan wrote:
would make a helluva fusion restaurant for sure.
Rodan wrote:
there is a lot of modern speculation a regarding Phoenicians travels…their sailing abilities may have taken them to the New World, leaving a little DNA here and there I guess
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
closer to 15M I thought?
brookly red wrote:
I despise komrade zero, and while I liked Romney as a candidate, I am quite angry with his loser campaign.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
thats just what teh yooooosss! want you to think!
heysoos wrote:
sailors are the bumble bees of humanity
@ brookly red:
My family in DR own Lebanese-Dominican Restaurants. I grew up eating Kibbe and Shwarma along with Rice and beans.
brookly red wrote:
See? There ya go! It’s working.
Iron Fist wrote:
It grieves me to say it, but the “social justice” mind rot pervades the majority of American Jews.
Furthermore, as I commented at length prior to the election, many if not most Jews are only nominal observers of Judaism. Reform Judaism is a shell and a sham, which “honors” the tenets of Judaism by ignoring them—and most American Jews, if they are at all “religious,” are Reform Jews. Even Conservative Judaism has, in the past ten years, shifted leftward to the point where it is almost where Reform was ten or fifteen years ago.
Most of these JINOs, having jettisoned most of Jewish observance, have retained one thing—the anti-Christian prejudice of their grandparents or great-grandparents. People of those prior generations had reason for such sentiments; if they were of the immigrant generation, they were for the most part fleeing oppression and restrictions of a Europe much more Christian than it is now—and they and their children in the first generations born here often experienced overt and covert antisemitism that was quite open. Much of that—not all of it—disappeared after the horrors of WWII were revealed, though admissions quotas at universities, restrictive covenants on land sales, and restricted access to clubs and even hotels persisted into the early ’60s.
Most of the more-religious Jews I know ignore or shrug off such things, when they encounter them—but the nonreligious Jews, having abandoned the source of their own spiritual strength which is also their genuine connection to their antecedents, retain the prejudice as the one connection with their forebears.
In this, one can perhaps draw an analogy to those highly-successful blacks who, having gone far beyond what opportunities were available to their parents or grandparents, retain a virulent hate-whitey attitude wholly unjustified by their actual circumstances. We see many of these people in prominent positions in the Obama administration.
It is the Jews whose connections to Judaism are tenuous that express opposition to Christmas trees and other end-of-year observances, and have inflated Chanukah far beyond its actual significance. They feel threatened by the Christmas observance because they have abandoned their own—and it is easy to project their unease outwards than it is to look at what they have done to themselves.
@ citizen_q:
Part of it was Romney’s fault. But he did not realize what he was up against. Check the morning thread. Its the first of a series on OFA.
citizen_q wrote:
for me the choice was do I want a bad president or a 3rd world dictator… I had to think about that for almost a second.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Basically, they are insecure in their heritage.
brookly red wrote:
horny bastages.
@ heysoos:
There’s a good how on H2 called America uncovered Fridays at 10. It has proven the Minoans had Bronze mines in America.
Rodan wrote:
Progroms and concentration camps can do that to you…
coldwarrior wrote:
ahhh I recognize the DC/Lobo reference
@ buzzsawmonkey:
as an orthodox christian i am probably more kosher/jewish than modern secular jews
coldwarrior wrote:
well Christians recognize the law of Moses and in fact are Jewish.
brookly red wrote:
Hmmm. I think your right. Probably 6 million Jews in Israel. So instead of .1% of the worlds population, its closer to .25%.
Lily wrote:
FWIW, when I was in Korea in 1980 it my understanding we were only responsible for 100 yards of the DMZ. That is what I was told. I was helicopter mechanic and did not get anywhere near there.
Activity in and around the DMZ was heavily monitored, by both sides. I had 3 of my aircraft take friendly fire due to mistakes following protocol flying in the DMZ area during the year I was there.
brookly red wrote:
besides that, what have the romans done for us?
Rodan wrote:
oh boyo…I love that stuff…thanks for that
@ citizen_q:
the dmz is its own reality
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
there was some Muslim leader a while back (not Arab, Indonesian I think) that was calling on Muslims to embrace western technology and asked “how do 15 million people control the world?” he was killed shortly after…
@ coldwarrior:
thats just what teh yooooosss! want you to think!
Ah. We’ve met some of the same people. Scapegoats are more precious than diamonds these days.
The ultimate source for the copper going to Europe is The Lost Empire of Atlantis, by Gavin Menzies.
Unfortunately Menzies is kinda sloppy. He’s responsible for the “1421 hypothesis” which got trashed a long time back. I file him alongside Graham Hancock.
coldwarrior wrote:
Pizza.
Rodan wrote:
Amen to that!
heysoos wrote:
lake michigan copper shows up in bronze age lebanon.
dope, blow, and smokes show up in pharo’s tomb.
heysoos wrote:
Yeah that sounds lie a great idea. Their guns will be pointed at the IDF.
brookly red wrote:
good enough.
@ Rodan:
Say what?
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
yooooooooooosssssssssssssss!
citizen_q wrote:
you got your keeping IN and you got your keeping OUT…
Lily wrote:
Morsi will be soon granted a state visit. You can bet he won’t be ushered through the back door.
Flyovercountry wrote:
I am still waiting for my Zionist cabal check.
brookly red wrote:
Well…yes and no. Certainly the tenets of Christianity are based on Mosaic law, since that was the basis from which Jesus taught. But in my experience there are things in the Bible which Jews take literally and Christians take symbolically or figuratively, and vice versa. Also, while there are some Christians who do work at following the intricacies of Jewish law, there are many who do not—on the grounds that Jesus made this unnecessary.
The Phoenicians going to the New World, I have a little more time for. They came close to circumnavigating Africa for instance (Herodotus noted that they claimed they’d got below the equator, although he didn’t believe it himself). And there’s talk that people who looked like Indians showed up in Britain, who were not from India.
Not buying the Bronze Age, though. The Babylonians were good astronomers but I don’t think they were that good that early.
coldwarrior wrote:
and the oval office…
ht -- Twitchy
Speranza wrote:
The question is, do you have basic cabal or did you subscribe to the premium package?
@ Mike C.:
Yup, up in Michigan.
Rodan wrote:
Nobody cared about Syria. That is not why he lost. He lost because he ran a bad and a tardy campaign and had shit advisers. You give the American public too much credit for caring about Foreign Affairs.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
I use my rewards points to pay for my gym membership
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
Fiber Optic cabal.
@ Zimriel:
It was the Minonas and it was proven the Bronze they had was from Michigan.
As for The Phoenicians, yes its not that hard to go from Africa over to Brazil.
@ brookly red:
It’s been a few years, but there used to be an arab priest who used to challagenge the passages of the Koran. He was accused of being responsible for dissuading more muslim youth than anything else in the arab world by simply asking the audience to consider the meaning of the “holy” islamic texts.
Analysis and self reflection are not friends of Moe’s folk.
coldwarrior wrote:
interesting since there is a direct rout to the Great lakes from the Atlantic, but you’d have to do some sailing up wind I’d think…I don’t know if they were rigged for that…I thought tacking so many degrees off the wind was a mostly modern thing…I don’t know much about it…did they use jibs?…maybe they oared
coldwarrior wrote:
Well drunken sailors aren’t really picky….I’d call them more slutty myself.
Rodan wrote:
There’s no such thing as a bronz mine. Copper is not bronz.
coldwarrior wrote:
A lot of gentiles are.
@ Rodan:
@ brookly red:
Sorry, work intruding upon blogging…….
I did spend some time on this morning’s thread. Guess I may still be a bit naive, but the election was not a landslide. I can’t shake the feeling that if Romney’s campaign was more aggressive, and slung some of mountains of mud the Obama administration created we would have done better.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
Nor for narcissists and ideologues.
Mike C. wrote:
right, where did the tin come from, Europe?
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
Low-info Moes?
@ Mike C.:
I meant Cooper.
@ Zimriel:
I meant Cooper, my bad.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Commandments.
Christians -- 10. Jews -- 613
Good luck with keeping the Temple up to specs.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
let’s not do this here…
@ heysoos:
Yes the tacking is fairly “recent” (say the 16th century recent), and they did use a lot of oar ships back then. The triangular sails on the modern ships allowed them to sail even closer into the wind. Then again, I wonder how old the dhow design is.
Rodan wrote:
strike two!
brookly red wrote:
And there it is. A fine product if there ever was one. Very versatile too…so many ways to make it…it is good for dinner and for breakfast. Ask any teenage boy or male of any age.
@ coldwarrior:
It sure was.
OTHO, South Korea under martial law was a different world for this 19 year old.
citizen_q wrote:
Actually there are many myths about 2012. One is that it was a landslide, it wasn’t. Second is that Republicans/Conservatives sat it out. Bullshit on that. If any sat it out it was a few million 2008 Obama voters but the problem was that they did not go over to Romney in sufficient numbers to make enough of a difference. Therein lay the problem, the Republican brand was badly damaged.
@ citizen_q:
He might have closed the gap, but OFA had real time voting data. In fact the early exit polls had Romney winning. But then OFA targeted the precincts they needed and won.
brookly red wrote:
Not being combative; merely observing differences.
@ Speranza:
Plus OFA was the difference.
PaladinPhil wrote:
what I was thinking…an old rectangular sail would not get you there…I have no clue how they were rigged…guess I could google it…
brookly red wrote:
True…true.
heysoos wrote:
It is my understanding that the Phoenicians obtained tin from mines in Cornwall.
@ buzzsawmonkey:
Low-info Moes?
Now that is funny!
Rodan wrote:
Those interminably long GOP primaries did not help either and Romney playing at being a hard core social con also rubbed a lot of people the wrong way particularly because clearly he was not.
Speranza wrote:
No he will not. It’s shameful to be honest.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
I think I know who you are talking about. A few of his talks were translated into English on Jihad Watch. From islam’s own scriptures, he talked about mo-ham-head cross dressing, laying with corpses, homosexual acts….
That the guy?
Speranza wrote:
Amen.
Put that one to bed, because it’s not only wrong -- it’s dangerous.
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
gottcha just saying if were get all esoterically stupid we will bore the shit out of everyone else.
@ heysoos:
a dhow could do it…maybe…I was thinking those old trireme that basically pushed you downwind only, hence the oararge
@ heysoos:
it is problematic. but the chem breakdown in the metal matches
Lily wrote:
the democrat platform
Gotta run, but I’ll leave you with this thought; that these revelations of ancient travels and trade show that it has always been a “world economy.”
People talk about “the world economy” as if it were something new; it isn’t. It’s as old as human beings. Things move faster now, and more people are more directly affected by it—but it has always been there.
Speranza wrote:
it is what is it.
Speranza wrote:
They certainly didn’t care about Benghazi and that was so close to the election and obama got away with it….
@ heysoos:
Been awhile since I heard about it. A square main sail only allowed you to tack into about 25% where as the triangular sail would allow you to reach almost 60% into the wind. This made the cross Atlantic voyages more efficient and much easier. Think I saw this on either “The Day the Universe Changed” or “Connections”. One of those big technological leaps that changed everything.
citizen_q wrote:
When were you there?
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
someday folks will speculate how uranium from Utah got into Iraq
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
if the 613 arent kept…
@ citizen_q:
Yup. I saw him on a video over at Jihad Watch. Hope he is ok.
PaladinPhil wrote:
I didn’t think 25% possible, but that would be enough, but it’d sure take you awhile, but how did they know when to turn?…ancient navigation is pretty interesting…you couldn’t just wait for starlight could you?…what if it’s cloudy?…did they know where they were going in the first place and if not, how did they get back?….those voyages must have been epic
brookly red wrote:
wha?????
pretty neat how that works
citizen_q wrote:
Maybe and maybe not. The problem was obama and obama himself. I don’t think you could have put ANYONE up against him and win. obama is a whole different story to run against. FREE PHONES!!! The man is like teflon and lets not forget the complete tongue bath the media gives him no matter what he does! obama ran a very negative and really weak campagin…he couldn’t even fill all the seats at his rallies…but because he is the first or he is cool (I just don’t see the cool…dork oh hell yeah..cool nope) ….he basically wins by default.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
1980 -- 81
@ heysoos:
how long is it by sail from the nearest point of africa and south america?
brookly red wrote:
Tunnel.
Duuuuhh…
/
@ coldwarrior:
if the 613 arent kept…
We look through the same glass.
Doppelgänger.
citizen_q wrote:
Where in the ROK were you stationed?
Lily wrote:
my local Sicilians make a breakfast pizza (for personal consumption, not for sale) ricotta, mozzarella, spinach, eggs & touch of cream baked on a pizza crust… sometimes mushrooms, onions, meat or even smoked salmon.
@ Speranza:
Romney should have been who was all along, an Eisenhower Republican.
coldwarrior wrote:
I was pretty sure you would get it
@ heysoos:
Probably were. We are so used to fast travel now. Even with the tall ships the trans-Atlantic voyages were weeks in lenghth. Even with cargo ships back in the 1950′s it was a week or two to get from say West Coast Africa to the port of New Orleans (mom made that voyage several times). Now we can cross oceans in half a day.
coldwarrior wrote:
I think it’s only about 1500mi…I think the Phoenicians must have used oars and what tack they could get off their sails
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
quit messin wiff me.
:lol
Romney will go down in history as being the most misunderstood man to ever run for president. If he were able to run the country like he did his family and business and personal life, the US would have literal streets of gold. His Mass. record has been miscontrued, contorted and demonized. when Romney lost the election, America lost big time.
@ brookly red:
my man tommy makes something similar. its good to have gone to HS with the local pizza guru
buzzsawmonkey wrote:
And hence: There is nothing new under the sun!
Here’s one for the Folks that like thinking ‘outside of the box’.
Where No Man (or Woman) Has Gone Before
Dennis Tito’s plan to go to Mars by 2018 has skeptics scoffing and space buffs cheering.
@ father_of_10:
Romney did not realize what he was up against. Also, the real Romney did now appear until The 1st debate Oct. 3rd.
@ Lily:
I hear you,
Guess I am out of touch. Just watching him, looking in his eyes, his body language, the obvious lies, juvenile shifting of blame. I don’t care how many talking heads try to sell him, it all screams out a disturbed individual not to be trusted with the reigns of power. I don’t care who screams racist. It isn’t true. It’s the content of his character not the color of his skin.
People have to deal with others all their life, even young people. I find it hard to believe that people have not run into this type of personality and learned to give them a wide berth.
heysoos wrote:
strong backs and sails gets that in 3 days
Lily wrote:
It wasn’t just free phones and stuff, it was voting fraud on an epic scale. Obama stole the election outright.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
Camp Casey
@ father_of_10:
Sorry, the voting fraud excuse is a cop out. Obama has OFA which uses data mining, behavioral analysts and paid volunteers. Romney had nothing to match that.
coldwarrior wrote:
ha!…one of my best buddies went into the pizza business…excellent pies…he had three shops and always does me a little something when I see him
@ father_of_10:
when Romney lost the election, America lost big time.
Then America didn’t deserve him. Which tells me what America deserves is coming soon like a thief in the night.
father_of_10 wrote:
The more I knew of Romney the more I liked him. There was good in him. Not so much with obama. People can’t see the good/bad difference anymore…well at least 1/2 of them. Obama won by winning the cities…the rest of the country went for Romney. It is disturbing that only the city folk get to pick who is the president now isn’t it?
coldwarrior wrote:
yup, and once they figured out the circular aspect of the Atlantic trade winds, they could cover a huge amount of territory…parts of four continents…makes sense
For Valentine’s day I gave my wife a 2 lb box of See’s, my mother-in-law a 1 lb. box and my little girls each got a little heart-shaped box of See’s. No one has shared with me. Not that I expected them to, but still. . . . So on Friday I ordered myself a 2 lb box of mixed nut-cremes from Cumming’s Studio Candies in Salt Lake, to be delivered to my office. UPS is late today. I’m about ready to eat the fortune cookie left over from last weeks Panda take out.
@ father_of_10:
Right on!!
Nothing is going to change until we deal with the iceberg called election fraud; everything else is just deckchairs on the Titanic.
heysoos wrote:
my man has one shop. the help know its me by the order…
back in the day my family was the only non italians on that side of town. i miss that, the yentas are dead, the papi’s are too. the old neighborhood has no cohesion. there is no watchful eye anymore.
heysoos wrote:
blow, dope, and ciggies in the pharos’s tombs.
father_of_10 wrote:
wait what? ups is late. they are never late. i’m getting hives and all twitchy just reading that and i havent worked for them in 15 years.
no hahasmilyface. really.
@ coldwarrior:
tobacco is definitely New World…in fact our first colonial export
one of the twins just jammed something into the really expensive subwoofer…..
father_of_10 wrote:
WHOSE FAULT IS THAT?
heysoos wrote:
hey man, pharo needed a side chew.
citizen_q wrote:
Ah. Spent some time there in 88′ though based near Daegu with 8th Army. Marshal Law lifted in 83′ I believe. I still have fond memories of the place.
Spoke to a guy my age who was there in 89′-- went back in 03′ and said the place has completey changed. All modern and is simply no comparison to the 80′s.
coldwarrior wrote:
RRRAAAAAAAATTTTTTTLLLLLLLLLE!
Bumr50 wrote:
uhhh….
everyone but him?
Rodan wrote:
no, that’s like saying Romney lost the fight because O had a blackjack AND brass knuckles… it’s not either or it was both.
heysoos wrote:
that and beaver… choose your reply carefully.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
heh. i had pinpoint orders from berlin after dli. got to mp school and at graduation, my di said in front of the platoon:
“if he is going to berlin i will suck his dick”
i got to arest him 4 months later in the city for beating his wife.
i took great pleasure in the process.
brookly red wrote:
ha.
you dont live where i live. if you knew where you would laugh at this
brookly red wrote:
before colonization, the Brits would take perfect white pines near the coast to be used as masts…factoid
coldwarrior wrote:
Beaver, Penn?
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
LOL! 8th Army? REMF! LOL! I kid, I kid.
When I went down South say to Yangsan, they’d see that Indian Head patch and give you the look.
When I was there we were living in Quanset huts for most of the year. They kicked us out of those for a while when they were doing some work and we lived out of GP mediums for a while. Even when we moved back into the Quanset huts the heaters would not work very well. We sometimes would start fires for warmth in the small metal trash cans we had. OTOH, alcohol was cheap, and they did not care if we brought our own beer into the battalion theatre.
Good Times.
heysoos wrote:
from my perch on the hill, i can see the county courthouse clock.
citizen_q wrote:
we used to call everyone in the army that
coldwarrior wrote:
That’s easy. My twins are starting to wear bras. shudder . . . it’s beginning.
coldwarrior wrote:
been through there many times going east from Michigan….mighty pretty country…some crazy wild football along in there
@ citizen_q:
Hey even Catholic’s went for obama when they were told….THE MAN IS A LIAR DO NOT TRUST HIM!
Unbelievable to be honest. 1/2 of the Catholic’s voted for him when he was persecuting the Church! I actually was shocked at that.
father_of_10 wrote:
That too.
Lily wrote:
CINOs
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
1.5 million in CA alone… look data mining and social media is all good but the real ROI is fraud. Period. It costs next to nothing and it works.
coldwarrior wrote:
They run late down here…Fedex is early …UPS is afternoons and even early evening.
@ citizen_q:
soju
father_of_10 wrote:
nunnery.
easy.
coldwarrior wrote:
got 3 pints in the fridge
brookly red wrote:
OFA and data mining just makes the use of fraud more precise and pinpoints where a ‘little’ fraud can turn a close precinct.
coldwarrior wrote:
Don’t get to use it much anymore.
Don’t get to use those oh so unPC cadence calls I learned running PT much either. My wife has no interest in learning, and is not amused when I start in when we go for a walk.
coldwarrior wrote:
Ever try Oscar or Mokli?
heysoos wrote:
religion.
quip v ambridge.
it just gets silly from there
citizen_q wrote:
berlin brigade called everyone remf.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
bingo! now they can deliver the fraud much more efficiently. I saw them filling out mail in ballots for tourists using their hotel addresses… why did they bother? NYC is blue?
My chocolates just arrived. With shipping I paid avout $40 a pound. I’m NOT sharing with anyone.
citizen_q wrote:
we get soju here in the lcb store. good enough for me. the korean booze is amazing.
i’ll stick to shots of vodka and a neat single malt.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Oh?!? What’s this??
I just got the memo from the D’Rats.
They say there is no election fraud.
It’s all just a Rightwing cop-out.
Never mind…
it’s starting… http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/detroit/detroit-mayor-dave-bing-says-governor-rick-snyder-will-announce-a-state-takeover-on-friday
@ coldwarrior:
2nd ID called everyone else in South Korea REMF.
coldwarrior wrote:
Really he spit like a red-neck?
father_of_10 wrote:
i am no longer twitchy.
citizen_q wrote:
berlin called 2id remf.
coldwarrior wrote:
The driver is new. He is also a bit thicker than the UPS drivers I usually see. They’ll have him worn down to a nub pretty quick.
brookly red wrote:
Big time. Just terrible in my opinion. Terrible.
coldwarrior wrote:
A good plan.
Oscar and Mokli are notable only in their being such vile concoctions. Their chief qualities being they contained alcohol and being cheap. PFCs and Spec4 did not have much in take home pay.
Oscar was like kool-aid champaign. Makli was milk colored, maybe because it was rice based? and reported to have formaldehyde added to an extra kick.
Never tried mokli myself.
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
what?
how dare they use teck to win!
lets have mass mailings instead!!!!
grumblegrumblegetoffmylawngrumpblegrumble
coldwarrior wrote:
Now I am ….I’m the only female on the thread.
@ coldwarrior:
LOL!
Must have been interesting duty.
Lily wrote:
I am not a Catholic. Having said that I think anyone who supports abortion can not claim to be Catholic. If the Church chooses to not to excommunicate them then it is an internal matter for the Church.
father_of_10 wrote:
Right now his name is *Tiny* I bet….
father_of_10 wrote:
in no time.
i was in air assault shape when i worked for them. effin awesome company.
Lily wrote:
that is no excuse to kill it
brookly red wrote:
a pretty big deal, the blueprint for a bunch of other contenders
Hannity on his radio show said they were doing a background check on Keith Ellison on the TV show later tonight.
Wonder if they’ve discovered he’s muslim? /
brookly red wrote:
You are correct to be honest. The problem is they don’t tell the priest about their belief’s about abortion. My thinking is if they are pro-abortion then they should go to another Church. The Church would only know about their belief’s about abortion if they went public….I’m thinking Nancy P. here.
coldwarrior wrote:
I believe you, but it doesn’t phase me in the least. If you try to convey any other incidents you witnessed-- no one will believe you anyway. Been there.
citizen_q wrote:
the best. got to see the wall come down in my own city.
that footage in 89, reagans speech… i was there.
coldwarrior wrote:
IT works for both the Light Side and the Dark Side, it’s nothing but a bunch of ones and zeros…
brookly red wrote:
It’s still alive….for now. HA HA HA HA!
@ Buckeye Abroad:
yep.
@ heysoos:
Wasn’t this the same council complaining that when obama won they did not get enough pork sent their way as spoils.
heysoos wrote:
Having the state takeover a city of that size can only happen because of decades of failed leadership. Any city of that size should have developed a self-sustaining prosperity that would continue to attract businesses even after major employers left or the business climate changed. Good cities with coherent laws and reasonable taxes and city expenses attract properity. Detroit
is failingfailed because of liberal policies. A state takeover is not going to solve anything unless they ditch the liberal policies of high taxes and even higher pensions and stupid salaries to stupid people.What business would want to relocate to Detroit?
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
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electrons spin, meh, new tech….
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heysoos wrote:
yes, liberalism is failing and in Detroit no less. Where did all that bail out money go? I could have run Spain for 10 years on that.
citizen_q wrote:
yes, sadly
father_of_10 wrote:
Jebus it’s Detroit not just any failed city. Detroit! Hello where did the bail out go?
@ father_of_10:
when the commiesdems in allegheny county see this…
looks like the surrounding counties will have to do like last time, tax us, we vote in your city election.
dems
coldwarrior wrote:
Wow! Major doings.
We just had Tong duchon Dong, the town adjacent to the base. It was only famous for its hookers, sleazy bars and astronomical incidents of VD.
heysoos wrote:
I think we are zeroing in on the problem.
father_of_10 wrote:
They are probably doing this because they can’t afford to have police to keep down crime, keep the streets in decent repair…the whole city is falling apart and there are not enough taxes coming in to fund it…sad really. But hey this is what happens when dem’s are in charge….you’d think someone would get a clue by now.
@ brookly red:
Michelle’s vacations…just a guess..
citizen_q wrote:
yessir, was 287th mp. worked the famous checkpoint charlie. this formerly handsome, dashing, and photogenic MP would walk up to the line between the free world and godless communism, put his highly polished jump boots just so, put a hand on the 5 round mag in the 1911 and stare at the commies who had thousands of rounds on their side and didnt look nearly as dashing as us.
every morning for 3 months i would walk to the line with my 5 rounds, sip my coffee, and call the rest of the DoD remf assed bitches.
@ citizen_q:
LOL! 8th Army? REMF! LOL! I kid, I kid.
No worries. I spent some time on the DMZ and then went south to Casey on the road home. I always digged the 2ID patch…8th Army “flaming wheel from hell?” Who are they trying to kid. My long dead barber from my home town was with the 8th in 1950… Pusan perímeter… bad news. Funny tihng I heard, is that due to the dismal performance of 8th Army in the early stages of the Korean Confict, and as the cease fire is still in tact, the US 8th Army is not allowed to come home. They will remain until the end.
“When I went down South say to Yangsan, they’d see that Indian Head patch and give you the look.”
Envy is an ugly thing to behold.
Good Times.
They were for us all.
father_of_10 wrote:
That is an OUTRAGE!!
Allow me to introduce you to Redstone Candy.
Best. Evah.
I used to visit Detroit quite a lot, much of the surrounding area is doing pretty well, but the city proper is sunk, everybody knows the how and why, but in terms of moving forward they have one thing going for them, the mayor, Dave Bing…a real stand up guy who loves the city he played for…Bing is no gangster and from here on out he’ll do the right thing…it’s going to be a very tough, uphill slog, but I hope something works…life is just miserable over there and not everybody is black or lazy…trouble is who will pitch in?…it’s gotta be the people themselves…there is talk of simply eliminating whole neighborhoods, condensing folks closer together, clean the place up…it’s a whole new thing, a new urban experiment and I really hope it works, because other towns have the same sorts of problems…it’s not just about money, it’s about changing attitudes, finding new ways to do things
Coming soon to a theater near you…
ESCAPE FROM DETROIT.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
I got the feeling they were hoping I wouldn’t start breaking things.
Lily wrote:
this is not Allentown this is Detroit this is where cars used to come from (not like any Americans can afford cars)http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cars-increasingly-reach-many-americans-145957880.html
this is a lib fail
@ heysoos:
Well it is about funding the fundamentals to keep the city safe (police and courts and everything that goes with that) and in repair …. those two things are major problems that can destroy a city.
@ brookly red:
Oh I agree…
@ brookly red:
Detroit was a wealthy bustling, vibrant city…world renown for cars and music, high education and the fine arts…all gone…
and there is a ‘this could happen to you’ sense about it…I’m not gonna sit here and diss them for it, that part is over, and I appreciate you don’t either
heysoos wrote:
I got an idea a new way of doing things… all this infrastructure in place to build cars… we they could sell it to auto makers with no union ties? just a thought.
coldwarrior wrote:
tip of the spear.
literally.
Lily wrote:
yeah, I have a feeling it’s gonna get even worse before it turns around…people are not paying property tax, the cops are rare, streelights don’t even work and get pillaged for the metals…think Mogadishu, it’s almost as bad
heysoos wrote:
was there recently.
beruit, 85
brookly red wrote:
not in MI.
youd have to move all the machines out of state. it isnt worth it.
heysoos wrote:
well it’s not a this could happen to you, it is this IS happening to you. I have no joy in the death of a great American city. I only want the killers brought to justice.
@ brookly red:
fine idea, but there would be an instant shortage of skilled labor…whatever solutions they decide on will cause harm to somebody, maybe lots of people…but there is no choice now
coldwarrior wrote:
I was sitting in Karlsruhe when the wall came down. Everyone was speechless. Wish Helmut Kohl was PM today.
coldwarrior wrote:
then fuck it let it die.
brookly red wrote:
its a self inflicted wound.
i have no sympathy.
coldwarrior wrote:
yes…every American should take a spin thru downtown…it’s profound evidence, the legacy of unions, corruption and donks
@ brookly red:
good way to put it
This is big news since there are not 170 million employed Americans.
@ coldwarrior:
@ heysoos:
then fuck it let it die.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
ktown is close enough.
we ran out of champagne and beer after 3 days, the rail heads were nothing but booze and fresh fruit for a week. the easties could not get their fill of either
coldwarrior wrote:
Restore a representative portion to provide contrast, then turn it into a theme park teaching consequences
/
heysoos wrote:
this is what the zombie apocalypse looks like
coldwarrior wrote:
when the feds step in, it’s your tax dollars…maybe the state can save Detroit…can CA save it’s own towns?..can NJ save Newark?…it’s going to be an epic problem too soon and I’d bet the feds will come calling and that mean you
RIX wrote:
urp, uh global warming… racism, global warmracsism, BUSH!
that POS and her husband both need to be on chain gangs
heysoos wrote:
the feds are not stepping in (yet) the state is
coldwarrior wrote:
there are burned out houses, sitting there exactly as they did after the ’67 riots…very spooky
@ brookly red:
right…Cincy, St Louis, Memphis, Pittsburgh and other towns all went over the abyss…and they have all clawed their way back to respectability, but none of those cities were bound to union manufacturing…chew on that
@ citizen_q:
We just had Tong duchon Dong, the town adjacent to the base. It was only famous for its hookers, sleazy bars and astronomical incidents of VD.
TDC was the shit. Literally.
Yup, they should both be in the slam.
heysoos wrote:
me chew on it? LOL that was my fucking point!
RIX wrote:
breakin rock in the hot sun.
The problem of U.S. converts to Islam and U.S. born members of Al Queda. Muslim Lobby is not the only problem.
http://patdollard.com/2013/02/report-details-al-qaeda-membership-in-the-u-s-nearly-quarter-of-the-operatives-were-converts-to-islam/
brookly red wrote:
I know, it was for general consumption…a major part of the legendary corruption involved the unions and people should know that…maybe that’s obvious
heysoos wrote:
It has turned into a jungle because of the lack of basic infastructure and that is because of a lack of taxes being paid and that is because of poor management…I could go on but right it’s the basics that are lacking in that city.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
It sure was.
coldwarrior wrote:
The image of American MPs manning checkpoint Charlie, for decades, within the Iron Curtain had more power than all the .45 ACPs in the world.
We won that “hearts and minds” battle.
@ Lily:
I read a story the other day that there are only two part time people that run the assayers office…out of 77 properties in one hood, only one resident has paid the tax over several years and 76 were delinquent…an unbelievable mess
@ Buckeye Abroad:
and we looked good doing it.
hmmmm. these tablets are nice.
no, notthe fun kind, the computer kind.
getoffylawnyoudamndkids!!!!!
@ heysoos:
That’s a problem. Because no money for street lights..no money for police…no money for road, sewage, water repairs…this is the problems that result from poor management and fraud.
Lily wrote:
that and the fact that car union expenses shut down a lot of peripheral businesses, which in turn shut down tax revenues…a perfect storm so to speak
coldwarrior wrote:
Ah, yeah. Dashing bullox that you are. The US military, especially those combat arm guys, were backing up those 5 rounds on your hip.
That is if you are willing to share the limelight?
@ heysoos:
I think that is a good way of saying it…a perfect storm of everything you do wrong to destroy a once working city.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
this barrel chested freedom fighter would share. after i got first pick.
coldwarrior wrote:
I turn on the computer after a long day, and that is the first comment I see.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
then why do we have a commie in the white house?
Calo wrote:
always have a drink before you log on…
brookly red wrote:
Because there are too many idiots in our country.
Looks like another thread broke out of the holding pen…
“Argo cheats Canada and Britain”
brookly red wrote:
Or medicate yourself….whatever floats ones boat as I say…or piroe boat.
Lily wrote:
in the 60′s white people saw this for what it was and fled…the Great White Migration, tax revenues crashed…they’d work the auto jobs but not live in the city proper…it was like lighting a fuse…
my larger and original point was that we have to somehow learn from this example..as for CA, their demise has little to do with minorities, excepting illegals for sure, but the ruination of CA towns has been white donk, union corruption…it seems to me the key here is the liberals of all colors or stations in life…it’s a three pronged attack, that can and will affect many towns and cities
@ heysoos:
The problem is they are not learning their lessons…what may work in one area ….goes downhill in another area. Not to mention the people who are doing it.
Lily wrote:
Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
@ Lily:
To clarify I take my heart medication.
heysoos wrote:
Hahahaha pay taxes? are you for fucking real? you give people free phones, healthcare, day care, care…care, care, care, and food stamps and now you want them to pay taxes? hahahahah
brookly red wrote:
You tell me. I came of age in the 80′s when the last non-Ivy league POTUS, who loved America, turned the country around and ended communism. As far as I’m concerned, the Republic I grew up in and knew is dead.
America deserves Obama. Hope the next generation learns from the stupidity.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
Indeed but these dummies we are dealing with think history is so passe’…idiots.
Lily wrote:
agreed, but that’s also what makes the Detroit situation so curious…can anything be learned and applied to all people?…or will Detroit turn into another clusterfuck that dies because nobody would stand up and say ‘I know CPR’…I understand mant people want these problems to just wither locally and they probably will, but everyone is at risk, either socially or financially….you’d better hope states can deal with, because if not the feds are gonna be all over everyone ekse to clean up the mess…let em die is not a solution
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
Soviet Union, Cuba, Cambodia, China, North Korea, yeah it is not that we didn’t learn it is that we did not stand up and shoot these people dead in their tracks and piss on their graves.
brookly red wrote:
I’ll give you two large Joe’s combos for a 92 Ford rear axel
coldwarrior wrote:
Your humility is dully noted.
heysoos wrote:
are you fucking serious? are you really aware of what is going down? Of course the state can’t deal… and what can the feds do? borrow more money. this puppy is terminal put it down.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
*Deserve* is such a strong word. But when 1/2 of our population are hedonistic idiots and I have come across them I can almost agree..almost..there are still a lot of good God fearing, hard working, family people still.
@ brookly red:
If Tar and Feathers ain’t enough to get the point across, then it’s time for the Stout Hemp Rope…
brookly red wrote:
the state in this case is stepping in to see what they can do…I post ideas, not that they might work or even my solutions…I’m telling you the state is gonna make a run at this thing and I hope it works…I don’t want your sassy ass involved, but it might come to that…your ready and well stuffed to feed Detroit? because if you let it burn, that’s what’s gonna happen…I’m suggesting trying to look out for your interests
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
you ain’t got enough rope or hangmen.
brookly red wrote:
Both can be recycled. No need to rush.
What did I miss? This is the first time I’ve been vertical for more than about 5 minutes all day.
Not sure what was wrong with me, but I didn’t enjoy it…
Can we deport them both? At least to Detroit?
sunset in the mountain west…time for some blues
lobo91 wrote:
Unfortunately, they’re BOTH aliens and we haven’t been able to find DiFi’s home planet.
feeling better?
lobo91 wrote:
when Detroit fails, you’ll pay for it
I’m going to remember this when they ask why I refused to comply with their new gun laws.
@ eaglesoars:
Somewhat. I think Leia was worried that I was dead, especially when I didn’t give her her dinner on time.
@ Lily:
*Deserve* is such a strong word. But when 1/2 of our population are hedonistic idiots and I have come across them I can almost agree..almost..there are still a lot of good God fearing, hard working, family people still.
Yeah, those people clinging to their guns and Bibles (and Torahs).
@ lobo91:
I disregard the feds…I do what I want, there is no complication because I refuse to comply and suggest others do the same…jail is not so bad in the short term
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
considering the volume of gun sale lately I think people are doing more than clinging… planning perhaps?
@ brookly red:
… planning perhaps?
The midwest is prepping for war. Ammo is flyiing off the shelf. I’m sure its the same story down south.
Culture is king. Where do you live? Heh.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
It is
Las Vegas shooter arrested in Los Angeles.
I’m glad they got this dirtbag.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
New York City, Brooklyn actually…gee I thought you could read.
They don’t even pretend anymore…
brookly red wrote:
It ain’t over till the cell door slams
lobo91 wrote:
I dumped the NRA over their support for Reid. No Regrets the NRA is like the GOP, establishment whores.
brookly red wrote:
The door already slammed. He’ll get no bail. That animal will spend the rest of his days in a cage where he belongs.
Buckeye Abroad wrote:
down here in New Mexico, we have little fondness for the feds..they made us look like savages (we are) for 60 years trying to gain statehood…never in the history of states has a territory been neglected and fucked over as New Mexico…it took 60 fucking years to gain statehood and only because we were surrounded by the feds, out gunned as used as hostages to a larger picture…but yet, New Mexico is packed with patriots…country donks, and they will fight to the finish, consider Fallujah…the NM guards kicked ass..we are patriots of the first order and fight to the death in this harsh world, yet we are an afterthought, nobody…people still pick on New Mexicans to this day as under rated…pisses me off
brookly red wrote:
the worst sound in your life you will ever hear…I am absolutely scared to death of incarceration
@ 243 eaglesoars:
https://www.brown-haley.com/almondproduct.php
heysoos wrote:
Don’t worry the FEMA camps don’t really have cells, they have kinda open yards where you can mingle with the other citizens and once a day the door under the giant obama poster opens and some scraps of food fall out… if you are strong and know how to fight you might get some.
brookly red wrote:
if there are 27 holes of golf and veranda cocktails, I’ll try…maybe
brookly red wrote:
Hey, sorry. You’re right. Apologies.
Now go get your shinebox.
@ Buckeye Abroad:
heh…snort
darkwords wrote:
my dentist hates you
the great eastern nethers is very nice, picturesque, quint and nicely old fashioned…the problem back there is all the people, there are too many people, you can’t get away from them…like ants
This is an awful bill that never should have been allowed to pass. Eric Cantor apparently threatened enough Republican House members to get it through.
lobo91 wrote:
Cantor threatened hellfire and brimstone only to get a vote to get their bill to the floor. However, I don’t think it was their bill that passed -- I think it was the dem’s
@ eaglesoars:
Among other things, it’s a stealth attempt to add to the number of people who can’t legally buy a gun.
Under this bill, you can be convicted of “domestic violence” for making someone feel bad. That conviction means you can’t own a gun, be a cop, or join the military.
lobo91 wrote:
Oh you bet. I don’t care whose bill it is -- it sucketh gravity
Hey Lobo, I’m up here in Chickenpooper country tonight.
Meeting in Denver tomorrow then back to AZ…
heysoos wrote:
Four Preludes on Playthings of the Wind
—Carl Sandburg
“The past is a bucket of ashes.”
1
THE WOMAN named To-morrow
sits with a hairpin in her teeth
and takes her time
and does her hair the way she wants it
and fastens at last the last braid and coil
and puts the hairpin where it belongs
and turns and drawls: Well, what of it?
My grandmother, Yesterday, is gone.
What of it? Let the dead be dead.
2
The doors were cedar
and the panels strips of gold
and the girls were golden girls
and the panels read and the girls chanted:
We are the greatest city,
the greatest nation:
nothing like us ever was.
The doors are twisted on broken hinges.
Sheets of rain swish through on the wind
where the golden girls ran and the panels read:
We are the greatest city,
the greatest nation,
nothing like us ever was.
3
It has happened before.
Strong men put up a city and got
a nation together,
And paid singers to sing and women
to warble: We are the greatest city,
the greatest nation,
nothing like us ever was.
And while the singers sang
and the strong men listened
and paid the singers well
and felt good about it all,
there were rats and lizards who listened
… and the only listeners left now
… are … the rats … and the lizards.
And there are black crows
crying, “Caw, caw,”
bringing mud and sticks
building a nest
over the words carved
on the doors where the panels were cedar
and the strips on the panels were gold
and the golden girls came singing:
We are the greatest city,
the greatest nation:
nothing like us ever was.
The only singers now are crows crying, “Caw, caw,”
And the sheets of rain whine in the wind and doorways.
And the only listeners now are … the rats … and the lizards.
4
The feet of the rats
scribble on the door sills;
the hieroglyphs of the rat footprints
chatter the pedigrees of the rats
and babble of the blood
and gabble of the breed
of the grandfathers and the great-grandfathers
of the rats.
And the wind shifts
and the dust on a door sill shifts
and even the writing of the rat footprints
tells us nothing, nothing at all
about the greatest city, the greatest nation
where the strong men listened
and the women warbled: Nothing like us ever was.
A brave woman.
The Osprey wrote:
You just missed some really nasty weather.
lobo91 wrote:
Yeah, I can tell there’s all that thick white Gorebull warming stuff all over the ground.
It’s pile on Maxine Waters night at Twitter.
darkwords wrote:
Congress should be sued for violating the separation between church and state, because they cast our bread upon the Waters.
Have you chided a Democrat leader today about being corrupt?
darkwords wrote:
Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly.
We could have a contest. Who is the most stupid and corrupt member of the CBC.
First prize: One way ticket to Harare!
RAAAAACISM!
darkwords wrote:
Well technically, they are right….but it makes me feel old
Somewhere in there it says “Racoons will mess you up, beat them dead with a stick and make soup.” Well it loses something in the translation.
darkwords wrote:
Hunan Racoon Fried Rice!
RAAAAACISM!
@ darkwords:
LOL!!! That was the best tweet, evah!
BRC_807 @Gus_807
IF A COON FALLS ON YOU BEAT IT DEAD WITH A STICK OR IT WILL MESS YOU UP YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2013/02/27/beat-the-meatles/#co_1175061 …
BRC_807 @Gus_807
YOU WILL NEVER BE THE SAME really! And it’s a twofer -- you also have supper -- coon gumbo. Nature’s grocery store. http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2013/02/27/beat-the-meatles/#co_1175061 …
The Osprey wrote:
Indeed!
brookly red wrote:
The Founders would have been shooting LONG before this.
lobo91 wrote:
El Gato has absolute conniptions if I’m not up and around whenever he thinks I should be. I think he’s afraid I’m getting ready to cash in my chips.
Lily wrote:
The population density in the cities makes it possible to deploy enough ward heelers to get out the vote. It also makes it a lot easier to steal votes.