Should be an interesting time.
Oh, and it’s an open thread.
Chavez Est Muerte.
by coldwarrior ( 90 Comments › )Filed under Open thread at March 5th, 2013 - 7:39 pm
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Chavez named Vice President Nicolas Maduro as his successor.
coldwarrior wrote:
Maduro? Isn’t that a cigar?
he will live forever in the anals of the oppressed
I’ll still bet that he croaked weeks ago back in Cuba.
The Osprey wrote:
cigars will kill you as well
The Osprey wrote:
it is, and its a bus driver
free men dig the blues…
Savoy Brown has the answer to every question
heysoos wrote:
so do the dead.
here’s some dead…poundin the drums…I dare you to open this link and listen…
Looks like the Dems want a war in Colorado:
Hickenlooper can join Chavez in hell. This bullshit is being run out of DC by OFA, and NYC by Bloomberg. Those are “the people” he represents.
@ heysoos:
tasty.
@ lobo91:
jeeze! yinz need some stout hemp rope out there!
is that crap gonna pass?
coldwarrior wrote:
grew up in the north, live in the west, party in the south…always been that way for me…I follow the groove as best I can bro
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes. And Hickenlooper will sign it.
We held the state House by 1 seat until November. Now the Dems control everything, and they’re running it the same way Reid and Pelosi ran things in 2009-10.
Hundreds of people showed up to oppose all these bills in the committee hearings, and they all passed on straight party-line votes. The opposition was all from out of state (like Mark Kelly, who showed up yesterday).
I disregard the law…I do whatever I want
Like all dictators and crooked politicians he amassed a fortune of money stolen and ill gotten from his country and its poor. The liberals will extoll his virtues of helping the poor but once again when you steal one billion dollars from the poorest of the poor you are a crook.
Hugo Chavez of Venezuela is now an ex-looter.
He’s not pining! He’s passed on! This looter is no more! He has ceased to be! He’s expired and gone to meet his maker! He’s a stiff! Bereft of life, he rests in peace! If he hadn’t been nailed to the hospital bed he’d be pushing up the daisies! His metabolic processes are now history! He’s off the twig! He’s kicked the bucket, He’s shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bloody choir infernal!! THIS IS AN EX-Looter!!
Yes, it’s a second handing. I was a Monty Python fan at least a decade before I picked up a copy of ATLAS SHRUGGED.
lobo91 wrote:
WOLVERINES!
Chaves is dead…fine..is there more?
@ The Osprey:
It’s pretty obvious what they’re up to here. This is a national effort by the Dems to ram all this stuff through. It has nothing to do with the state.
They picked Colorado for their testing ground because people think it’s a state full of hunters and outdoor types, and that they can use it as an example.
heysoos wrote:
Maybe he’ll turn up on The Walking Dead.
Until then, yes, he’s dead.
Still dead according to the last report.
King Cancer -- 1 Cuban medicine -- 0
Of course, this asshat will still be re-elected.
@ lobo91:
This is obviously a violation of the 2nd amendment and if it passes will eventually go to the supreme court. There, John Roberts will uphold the law citing the commerce clause.
Who is Joe Kennedy now going to thank in those obnoxious commercials he has (“Joe4Oil”)?
heysoos wrote:
Hopefully Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Bashar Assad soon.
heysoos wrote:
Actually, he will make an appearance in Download City VERY SOON!
One Huge-ol’ sack of shit dead. Many, many more to go.
Via Powerline
BatGuano wrote:
The one about holding manufacturers and dealers responsible for the actions of criminals is a violation of about every legal principle in the book.
Didn’t stop them from passing it, though.
@ Speranza:
Carter was very good at turning Democrats into Republicans. Thank you Jimmy for making me see the light in 1979.
BatGuano wrote:
He was the last Democrat (1976) I voted for POTUS. That shows you what a putz Jerry Ford was.
via Drudge, Army employees not to criticize dear leader.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/army-spokesman-reminds-employees-and-civilians-not-criticize-commander-chief_706476.html
@ Speranza:
In 1976 my brother and I wrote in Eugene McCarthy. I couldn’t vote for
either of them.
BatGuano wrote:
Carter in many ways ran to the right of Ford in 1976. We were fooled but I never was again.
BatGuano wrote:
Carter was incompetent but after losing to Reagan he became embittered and a vicious anti-American, anti-Israel animal.
I’m reading this POS our Senate is about to pass on liability. It’s the most insane collection of garbage I’ve ever seen.
First, they define an “assault weapon” as anything other than a handgun, a bolt action rifle, or a pump shotgun. All semi-auto rifles and shotguns are now “assault weapons.”
And I love this part:
Talk about making shit up…
The White House has ceased White House tours due to the
Sequester.
The tours are conducted by “unpaid volunteers.”
@ Speranza:
The most bitter former president in American history. That is why he loves our enemies and gets involved in foreign policy to our detriment.
What an Ahole.
They added a new requirement for anyone (including a private person) selling what they call an “assault weapon”:
Now, they failed to define what amounts to “sufficient communication and information” to determine this. That leads me to believe that the fact that the prospective buyer passed a background check isn’t enough.
They did put an out in here, though. You can transfer those nasty “assault weapons” to a law enforcement agency, which will dispose of them for you (for a fee), and issue you a form that says you’re no longer liable.
Wow.
BatGuano wrote:
He is despicable. I wont cry when he goes.
@ lobo91:
If you saw the movie “Minority Report”, this admin has become (and outdone) the ‘Pre-Crime Unit’.
yenta-fada wrote:
Their obvious goal is to make gun ownership so onerous that people won’t bother.
Ironic but today is the 60th anniversary of the death of Joseph Stalin (March 5, 1953).
Speranza wrote:
RIP Joseph Stalin. His only concern was with the welfare of his people.
-Jimmy Carter
@ lobo91:
Correct. Which is a direct violation of the 2nd amendment.
BatGuano wrote:
Right.
I can’t imagine that this mess would actually withstand a court challenge, particularly the part about holding manufacturers and dealers liable. It directly contradicts a federal law, after all.
I love the way they subtly shifted the burden of proof to the owner or seller of a gun, though. You’re only liable if you didn’t take “reasonable precautions,” without defining them. Obviously, if someone steals your gun or commits a crime after buying it, you must not have taken enough precautions.
I have no direct knowledge of fully automatic weapons. A question to you more knowledgeable gun owners:If you had a fully automatic weapon and wanted to kill as many people as possible, would you use it in fully or semi-auto mode? I understand that in fully automatic mode you would be out of ammo quickly.
@ BatGuano:
If you actually want to hit anything, you use semi-auto, with very few exceptions (such as special ops troops clearing a building using specialized weapons like an MP-5).
The only real purpose for full-auto fire is to suppress the enemy. Someone uses a machinegun to keep their heads down, while others sneak around their flank.
@ lobo91:
The burden of proof has been shifted to the extent that the seller must have positive proof (which is impossible) that the weapon will not be used in a crime. That is like saying if you sell a car you must have positive proof that the buyer will not drive while drunk or use it as a get away car after a robbery.
@ BatGuano:
Exactly.
The only difference being that, of course, nobody would vote for something so ridiculous with regard to cars.
BatGuano wrote:
heh heh I am sure Carter would say something akin to that.
Don’t these people even USE the WH?
http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/malia-obama-now-dining-in-manhattan-on-weekends-for-some-reason/
@ lobo91:
Thank you. That is exactly what I thought. The “mob” in the 20′s and 30′s and totalitarian regimes used fully automatic weapons on individuals who were lined up and ready to be executed.
BatGuano wrote:
For an idea of how useful full-auto fire is to most people, one of the differences between the Vietnam-era M16A1 and the later models is that the former has the ability to fire on uncontrolled full-auto, and the newer models don’t. They have a 3 round burst setting in its place.
@ BatGuano:
The classic Thompson SMG was designed with one purpose in mind, which was to serve as a “trench broom.” The automatic weapons commonly in use in WWI were big, heavy belt-fed things, and not very portable. The SMG, like the short-barrelled shotgun, was useful for the rather specialized circumstances of the time--a bunch of people in a small area.
I wish I had full knowledge of automatic weapons…it’d be a big deal for this hayseed…
I’d rather shoot a Browning that meet John Lennon
@ lobo91:
Ya know, I read that in a Vince Flynn novel (about the 3 round burst) and it makes perfect sense to me. One does not need to put 5 bullets in someone head and then be essentially unarmed.
@ BatGuano:
The average ammo expenditure during Vietnam was 12,000 rounds fired per enemy KIA.
Unknown numbers of monkeys and leaves were killed, however.
The M16A2/M4 fire fast enough that if you’re aiming center of mass at someone and fire a 3 round burst, you’ll probably hit them with all 3 rounds before the muzzle rises enough to pull you off target.
BatGuano wrote:
“.38-.39, whatever it takes”
we should have a ‘Mr Mom’ thread
Smith and Wesson sales at all time high.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-05/todays-other-all-time-high-smith-and-wesson-gun-sales
yenta-fada wrote:
Pretty much all gun manufacturers are at all time highs.
@ yenta-fada:
@ lobo91:
I love it. Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. Reports 2012 Fully Diluted Earnings of $3.60 Per Share and Declares Dividend of 40.4c Per Share. And that’s on top of the $4.50 per share special dividend that RGR paid in December. I own RGR and SWHC… the iron and the shares.
yenta-fada wrote:
Perhaps she’s getting ready to punish herself with a baby?
Adios pendejo!
@ lobo91:
Did you edit that, or am I reading that a double-barrel shotgun or a single shot shotgun would meet the definition of “assault weapon”? Also, a break action single shot rifle if that is the complete definition.
Sweet Jesus…what are these damn animals…
Someone must have slipped some psychedoolics into the margarita I
had at the airport taco bar… I’m about to board a plane from PHX to Orange County…
and I’m having a Hunter S. Thompson moment…I swear to God..I’m about to board an airplane
full of carnivorous lizards…there are some creepy looking people in this Godforsaken country…
Thank goodness the plane is only 2/3rds full at least I won’t have I sit next to a lizard…
@ BatGuano:
Perfect analogy
@ AZfederalist:
Here’s a link to the bill on the state website.
Look at the definition of a “shotgun” that starts at the bottom of page 4. It actually specifies “loaded manually by pump action.” Anything that doesn’t fit that definition is now an “assault weapon.”
Yes, whoever wrote this POS is a moron.
@ lobo91:
So, if it’s not “loaded manually by pump action” even Joe Biden’s beloved double barrel side by side becomes an “assault weapon”?
I swear, California has some dumbass libs but the combination of high altitude and strong cannabis really does
a number on your Coloradicals.
@ The Osprey:
That’s what it says.
Notice that they also made no exceptions by caliber. That means a Ruger 10/22 is now an “assault weapon,” too.
lobo91 wrote:
Well, if you add “the shoulder thing that goes up” to it, of course it is!
lobo91 wrote:
It’s like they are not even trying anymore. That’s why I asked my question, it would have made sense if you had simply redacted the obvious; as it is, this is Twilight Zone stuff. The Onion just really has no future; they can’t make up stuff as crazy as the crazies in the government are really doing.
@ AZfederalist:
Rush used to say he ‘illustrated absurdity by being absurd’. Too bad the absurdity of reality has trumped even the absurdity tried to prepare us for.
@ AZfederalist:
I think my favorite part was where they made the kind offer to relieve people of the awesome burden of having these terribly dangerous weapons around--for a fee.
mfhorn wrote:
It’s almost as if the left took Rush’s absurdity as a goal rather than as mocking humor.
lobo91 wrote:
Mighty decent of them, isn’t it? Why just imagine the privilege of being able to pay the state to take that $1500 AR off of your hands. We just don’t deserve such benevolence.
@ AZfederalist:
And I notice that they used the term “dispose of” rather than “destroy” with regard to what they would do with it.
Yeah, they’ll dispose of it, all right. By selling it to someone in a state that doesn’t have insane laws.
Speaking of leftist absurdity:
I’d really like someone to investigate who’s paying for Mark Kelly’s travels around the country preaching gun control. That asshole’s shown up twice in Denver in the last two weeks to testify in favor of Bloomberg-backed bills.
Got my two Gun control messages off today to local politicians. Going to hit up all the GoP governors this week. TFK says I need money to make an impact but this is the best I can do at the moment.
A lot of very strong forces here coming together to work over gun control legislation. They won’t take a soft no for an answer.
lobo91 wrote:
I suspect that the supply in Mexico is running a bit low by now, so Colorado can start working with ATF to get the supply chain restarted
Goodnight all
@ AZfederalist:
Night