
Firearms Equality Movement
From AmmoLand, this is the honor roll as of February 27, 2012:
By Tred Law
New Jersey – -(Ammoland.com)- The newly emerged Firearms Equality Movement is gaining more steam among manufactures and gun rights supporters alike.
The firearms industry, in reaction to the Governor of New York ramming through the NY SAFE Act which banned AR15 style rifles, has seen multiple manufactures revise their firearms sales polices to restrict LEO and Police Agencies from only buying the same level of firepower as is allowed for the average citizen of their state.
Thereby helping to make the citizens equal to police and law enforcement agencies with in the same state, and, in some part, making rouge politicians accountable for their actions trying to disarm the people.
It is important to note that the Movement is not asking industry to join a “conspiracy” but only to make their own sales policies support the right of the individual to keep and bear the same arms as all other classes of people in their respective states. The Firearms Movement is just that, a movement and not collusion, as some have suggested. In the end each and every company is free to do business as they wish.
The List of Manufactures as complied by NC Gun Blog has continued to grow and at last count (2-27-2013) included the following.
New York Boycott Participants:
- LaRue Tactical 2-8-13
- Olympic Arms 2-12-13
- Extreme Firepower Inc, LLC (Per EFI, policy is several years old)
- Templar Custom 2-13-13
- York Arms 2-13-13
- Cheaper Than Dirt 2-15-13
- Bullwater Enterprises 2-16-13
- West Fork Armory 2-16-13
- Smith Enterprise 2-17-13
- Alex Arms 2-17-13
- Spike’s Tactical 2-18-13
- Quality Arms Idaho 2-19-13
- Liberty Suppressors 2-19-13
- Doublestar Corp 2-19-13 (Includes J&T Distributing & Ace LTD)
- American Spirit Arms 2-19-13 (complete with a video!)
- Trident Armory 2-17-13 (reported to me 2-20-13)
- Head Down Products 2-20-13
- J&G Sales 2-20-13
- Barrett Firearms 2-20-13
- Exile Machine 2-20-13
- Tier One Arms 2-15-13 (reported to me 2-20-13)
- Bravo Company USA 2-20-13
- Primary Weapons Systems 2-21-13 (read my blog post on PWS)
- Crusader Weaponry 2-20-13
- Top Gun Supply 2-21-13
- Kiss Tactical 2-21-13
- Clark Fork Tactical 2-21-13
- OFA Tactical 2-17-13 (reported to me 2-21-13)
- One Source Tactical 2-21-13 (Scroll down to shipping restrictions)
- Templar Tactical Arms 2-12-13 (reported 2-21-13)
- NEMO Arms 2-21-13 (check out their photo!)
- Old Grouch’s Military Surplus 1-15-13 (NOT a typo!)
- Big Horn Armory 2-22-13
- Midway USA 2-22-13
- CMMG Inc 2-22-13
- Rocky Top Tactical 2-22-13
- Badger Peak 2-22-13
- Controlled Chaos Arms 2-22-13
- SRT Arms 2-22-13
- Norton Firearms 2-22-13
- Umlaut Industries 2-22-13
- Predator Intelligence 2-2-13 (Read comments)
- Citizen Arms 2-23-13 (At the bottom of the page)
- Evolution Weaponry 2-17-13
- Chaos Arms 2-23-13
- Warbirds Custom Guns 2-23-13 (Scroll to the bottom)
- JBTAC 2-23-13
- Stoner Arms 2-22-13
- Ammoclip (Date of policy unknown)
- 3 Rivers Precision 2-22-13
- 2A Firearms 2-22-13
- Lanco Tactical 2-22-13
- Predator Tactical 2-23-13
- Arrowhead Shooting Sports 2-23-13
- Boise Tactical 2-23-13
- Huntertown Arms 2-23-13
- Lauer Custom Weaponry 2-22-13 (PDF) (Makers of DuraCoat)
- 556 Tactical 2-23-13
- Iron Goat Guns 2-16-13
- Dead Bang Guns (Date of policy unknown)
- Southern Appalachian Arms 2-15-13
- Thunder Beast Arms (2-22-13)
- Delmarva Shooting Supply 2-23-13
- OJ’s Gun Shop 2-23-13
- OCS Guns 2-23-13
- Progressive Micro Devices (Special case, non gun manufacturer. Read my post)
- Semper Fi Arms 2-22-13
- Climags (date of policy unknown. Scroll down to “Why was my order cancelled?”)
- Southwest Shooting Authority 2-8-13
- Csspecs Magazines 2-24-13
- MFIAP 2-25-13
- Critical Survival 2-24-13
- DogLeg Arms 2-25-13
- Victory Defense Consulting 2-25-13
- GWACS Armory 2-24-13
- Allegiance Ammunition 2-22-13
- Red State Tactical 2-28-13
- Wilson Tactical 2-28-13
As of yet we have not seen the big four manufactures, Glock, Sig Saur, Smith & Wesson and Ruger, that supply the majority of police contracts, make the same policy changes. We understand they are beholden to their stock holders, but I am still hopeful that they will move to support their biggest customer of all, the American people.
I want to let hem know that I will buy all I can from any company that protects my rights, to help make up for any loss of sale they may experience by limiting police sales.
It is great to see manufactures banding together to protect the rights of their customers and hold politicians accountable for their acts disarming the American public.
As this movement evolves I would like to see this become an unsaid blanket policy that applies to all states, especially New York, New Jersey, Maryland, California and anywhere else where honest law abiding citizens need the right to keep and bear arms of equal fire power as the state the live in.
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Pity I lost all my guns in that boating accident. but if I did own any, it would be a FAL… actually I would own 2. A 21 inch and 16 inch carbine. Just saying…
Magpul certainly leaving CO, Beretta very vocally threating to leave MD… And Beretta is a MAJOR player; supplier of sidearms to the US, NATO and many other militaries. And Beretta is still headquartered in the same town in Italy where they started over 500 years ago, so they’re not prone to just dash about on a whim.
Midway, USA, BTW, celebrated getting 1 million customers in a year just last week by sending $ 1 million to the NRA/ILA. Absolutely great folks to deal with, and they’ve held the line on prices. Unfortunately, that means they have little stock, but they are definitely one of my go-to vendors and have been for a couple of years.
There is no reason for the police to have any weapon that is restricted from civillian onwership, and that goes for fully automatic weapons in addition to so-called “Assault” weapons. A civillian is more likely to be outnumbered in a confrontation than the police. Civillians don’t have radios to call back-up when they get into a situation, such as a home invasion robbery. When seconds count, the police are (at best) minutes away.
@ Mike C.:
Agree with you. Have worked with Midway for years and they always have great service and prices.
The equality idea is actually several years old, and was started by Barrett, who told all the numerous law enforcement groups in CA to bite it when CA specifically banned their .50 BMG rifles by name, including voiding their warranties and barring them from any factory service. To top it off, they brought out the same rifles chambered for Barrett .460 to skirt the ban for civilian buyers in CA. If I could afford to, and had any actual use/need for their fine products, I would most certainly patronize them.
Meanwhile, hoping Beretta doesn’t want to move too far, and just hops south across the Potomac, where they will be welcomed with open arms.
@ MikeA:
My last order from them was December. A couple of magazines for the LC9 and some HKS speedloaders for the revolvers.
@ Mike C.:
Mine was for some ammo in Jan. They had some Federal 5.56 in stock and I got 500 rounds for a good price. No price gouging at all. Of course it went OOS in about 10 seconds but I scored some.
Mike C. wrote:
yep
good thread 1389AD
@ MikeA:
I had been ordering stuff like that from LuckyGunner. but as a small and relativel new (4 years old yesterday) vendor, I suspect they’ve been getting hit by their wholesaler(s). They have some stock, but prices are up.
Best deals now seem to be Wal-Mart or Gander Mountain (and maybe others) who are holding the line on prices. But you have to ask when the deliveries come in and be there waiting for them to actually get any.
@ Mike C.:
I have seen that. I check on some boards to snag the on-line deals. ITs how I got the Midway deal on ammo. Since I do have enough put by, I am not worried.
I try to support the vendors who are on this list. What they are doing I fully support. And it gives me an excuse to buy more “stuff”.
Unfortunately, most on the list seem to be EBR manufacturers/suppliers, and I don’t have an EBR, so I’m not much help.
@ Mike C.:
I suppose I could refurnish the Mini-14 to look Tacti-Cool, but I rather like the Fudd-soothing stealth look. I put a GG&G rail topped with a Burris mini-red dot on it, but that’s doesn’t set off alarm bells. The red dot is easier for these old, crappy eyes than the factory ghost ring iron sights.
I am hoping to soon receive word that I need to be paying more attention to the availability of good old .30-06.
BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! BLAM! PING!
(That’s a hint…)
Geez -- an official gun thread, and I’m talking to myself. Grr…
@ Mike C.:
I have used a garand a few times that a buddy owns. nice piece of hardware but my first love has always been the FAL. Love that rifle.
@ MikeA:
My dad would have at least gone through basic on the Garand. Since he was in charge of a light machine gun squad, I suspect he would have been issued and shipped out with an M1 carbine, as those guys had a lot of crap to carry just for the M1919. Thankfully, Hiroshima and Nagasaki kept him from being in the first wave assault on the Home Islands, and all he had to do once he got done feeding fish across the Pacific was to occupy China.
eaglesoars wrote:
Thanks!
Not anywhere near enough traffic on this thread to suit me. Come on, people, this is truly serious stuff! Rights, and that sort of thing, you know. Who’s standing up for them right now. Etc.
Mike C. wrote:
What is ERB thing?????????????????????????????????
@ Mike C.:
Work has been interferring with my valuable posting time. I’ve been in a meeting. This is serious stuff. I don’t expect to see Glock sign onto this. They are, after all, an Austrian firm, not American. But I’d like to see Smith and Wesson and Ruger sign on. That would be big.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
EBR = “Eee-vil Black Rifle” = Ar-15 variants. Does come in other colors, though.
@ Iron Fist:
Armalite DID NOT sign on, and said so officially. Eff them.
A billionaire Ssteps up to the plate:
Good. We are fighting back.
Mike C. wrote:
Thanks. Acronyms should be defined, or they are less then useless…
@ Mike C.:
I’d like to see LWRC on hat list as well. I think this will affect my purchasing decisions. I wish I could afford to do business with Barrett. I’d like one of their evil .50 cals just because. Unfortunately, I don’t have ten grand just burning a hole in my pocket.
@ Da_Beerfreak:
THat one’s years old -- didn’t think it would need defining to anybody frequenting this particular thread. But no harm in asking, I say.
@ Iron Fist:
Not to mention something like $ 5 every single time you pull the trigger…
@ Mike C.:
Yeah, they are coming out with a new multi-barreled sniper system. It is supposed to be chambered in .308, .300 Win Mag, and .338 Lapua, if I’ve heard correctly. Retail price is around $6K. I’d love to buy one, but I just don’t have that kind of money.
Mike C. wrote:
I’ve heard the name ‘evil black rifle’ before. This is the first time seeing EBR used in its place.
Ya, but,,,
Your dealing with a two party evil money cult , that in fact has our money to use aginst U.S..
Whats to keep them from building a huge bunch of gun factories and build U.S. Goverment guns and we pay for that and the U.S. Govt. sells to the State and Locals.
It not like they are on our side.
@ Iron Fist:
Well, don’t worry about what you would like but can’t afford, I say. Get what you can afford and practice with it. I’m never going to get that bespoke H&H double rifle, either, but I’ll manage. A .22 LR in the hand beats a .50 BMG in the bush every time.
Mike C. wrote:
Not to be confused with the evil green rifles carried by toy soldiers, which are extremely dangerous:
taxfreekiller wrote:
Two parties in name only. Both want to take my money and give nothing in return.
@ lobo91:
I saw that.
Sending kids to government schools IS child abuse…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
I hang around with disreputeable and non-PC people, where it’s common slang. Sorry. But hey, at least now you’ll know next time you see it used, yes? More generically, it applies to anything that spooks the Fudds and The Brady Bunch, so in the broader sense it can also apply to AKs, AR-10s and the like.
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Then, of course, there is the Eee-vil Pink Rifle, which is usually an AR-15 with pink furniture and pink powder-coated metal, often with Hello Kitty stuff on it.
@ lobo91:
Hey, at least they are teaching the kid sthe important stuff. Sensitivity is in. Reading, not so much:
They can teach the kids queer theory, but they can’t teach them how to read.
@ Mike C.:
Hello Kitty is the stuff liberal nightmare’s are made of…
Iron Fist wrote:
The system has too much invested to change now dontcha know.
Much more important to teach kids to fear guns and to hate gun owners then that old fashion three Rs shit…
@ Da_Beerfreak:
http://www.google.com/search?q=hello+kitty+rifle&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=1Aw6UaeOG4v68QSY3YG4CQ&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1115&bih=505
I really like the Hello Kitty S&W .500 magnum revolver (several rows down, on the left)! Nothing says “You’re about to have a very bad day” like an S&W .500 magnum!
@ lobo91:
I’ve been thinking lately that this type of draconian behaviour of school administrations is how liberal want society at large to work.
@ citizen_q:
Of course it is. They want to get kids used to totalitarians systems in schools, and then they want to carry it out to the rest of society. It is like boiling a frog. If I had kids, they’d never darken the door of a public school. I’d home school or private school or something. It really is abuse to put your kid in a government school.
@ Iron Fist:
Same here
@ Mike C.:
My safe would look pretty empty without it’s EBRs.
Oh, wait, it is empty. I forgot. In a fit liberal conscience I turned them all in to one of those no questions asked gun buy-backs. Got a handful of gift certificates to my local K-mart fer ‘em.
Mike C. wrote:
I kind of like that ‘Hello Kitty’ chainsaw; could use something like that to redefine the meaning of ‘Code Pink’.
@ Iron Fist:
Call me Captain Obvious!
citizen_q wrote:
They’re teaching kids how to live in a police state.
Tingles is worried Dick Cheney is going to kill Jane Fonda with a drone.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/03/07/tingles-worried-a-right-wing-politician-could-kill-jane-fonda-using-a-drone/
@ Iron Fist:
There is an ironic twist . The CBS New York aryicle about lack of
literacy
RIX wrote:
Had seven spelling errors.
(I posted too soon up top.
RIX wrote:
That was one of the most pathetic pieces of writing I’ve seen in awhile.
I guess they don’t have editors.
We don’t need no stinkin’ literacy, we all watch TV…
@ RIX:
Layers of editors and fact checkers…
Da_Beerfreak wrote:
And use touch screen computers.
Don’t need to teach math, either.
If we did, people would catch on to the government’s lies about the economy.
The White House is celebrating the latest jobs report, which shows unemployment going down to 7.7%.
What they didn’t mention:
New Study Finds Firearms Laws Do Nothing To Prevent Homicides
@ Da_Beerfreak:
That “study” looks like something you’d see at a middle school science fair.
But it was done by an MD, and published in a prestigious medical journal, so people will take it seriously.
Woman Stops Grizzly Attack With .25 Cal Pistol
@ lobo91:
As we’ve seen in the Global Warming debate, “peer reviewed” studies are bullshit. They get away with all kinds of shit when they are being “reviewed” by their peers. It is very much a you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours environment.
lobo91 wrote:
The appeal to the higher authority fallacy.
@ Iron Fist:
Now if someone would toss the whole useless bunch of them off the end of a pier…
Iron Fist wrote:
You should be suspicious any time you see a gun control study published in a medical journal. Not only is it an appeal to authority, it’s also a clue that the study is crap and was rejected by journals where it actually belongs.
The idea of peer review is to have other people who actually have expertise in the field look at it and try to find flaws in the methodology. MDs reviewing a study like this is pointless.
lobo91 wrote:
Hmm, I should learn how to spell article.
Even spell check would have done a better job
He must have some company there targeted for extortion.
@ lobo91:
Actually, there was a most excellent article published in JAMA back in 2000 regarding the effects of enacting the “Brady Bill.” The Brady bill only affected about roughly half the states, because the other half already had equal or tougher background check requirements in place. This made for an optimal experiment to judge the effects of implementing the Brady bill. Results? No statistical difference going forward. In other words, gun deaths DID NOT decrease in states where the bill had just taken effect v states where it was already de facto in effect. Oops.
Using statewide statistics for crime studies is misleading, anyway. On a statewide basis, California’s crime rate is fairly low. That’s because the majority of the crimes in the state are committed in one or two counties. The same is true in many states.
I noticed about a decade ago that the crime rates reported by the FBI for DC had gone down significantly. When I looked into the figures, I saw why. They changed the reporting area to include the 7 surrounding counties, which all have very low crime rates, as part of the DC metro area.
@ lobo91:
It gets worse.
This could be the start of the battle for the Party.
McCain is really looking over. He abhors water boarding, but
is fine with droning Americans on American soil.
Time for a change.