Dogs o’ War they be. Irish Wolfhounds were used as weapons, as they could take a man off his horse for killing by others. Celtic dogs are also regarded as good luck as they were the protectors of highways and crossroads, and of lost souls in the Celtic Otherworld.
Many Irish myths and legends include mentions of hounds. The most famous involves the Celtic hero Cuchulainn (The Hound of Ulster) or (The Hound of Culann) who stroked a blacksmith’s Celtic hound with his bare hands. When Culann, the blacksmith asked who would now guard his shop the young Cuchulainn offered to take the dog’s place thus gaining himself the title of ‘The hound of Culann’. The offer was turned down and Cuchulainn went on to become one of the greatest warrior legends of that era, but the nickname stuck. Other famous Irish hounds were Bran and Seolan who belonged to the warrior, Fionn mac Cumhaill. The mother of Bran and Sceolan was Tuiren, and was Fionn Mac Cumhaill’s aunt, transformed into a hound by a fairy or Sidhe. [via]
Whether you like it or not, everyone becomes Irish tomorrow, so here’s a big green steaming pile of The Overnight Open Thread.
Tags: Celtic, Dogs Of War, Irish, Overnight Open Thread
ex wife is from kinsale, i lived in ireland. i do miss a great night in a pub in the middle of nowhere with a peat fire, music in the corner, a gale at the door and good pint in hand.
RIX wrote:
my ex wife’s grandma lived through the 1916 rising in dublin. i had the great honor to take her from her retirement home at 8 am one morning and drive her into dublin so i could pick her brain. my ex and her mum went shopping, i sprang grama!
i got the whole and unexpurgated history of the rising over the next 14 hours as we went from pub to place. i still have my notes of that adventure.
i look at them every once in a while, and smile
That must have been quite an experience. We are related to Michael Collins
& my Grandfather was a rebel.
@ RIX:
cheers.
@ RIX:
she was quite neutral on the event of the day. very factual as we went round.
that was one of the top 20 days of my life. i had a ball!
Slainte!
@ RIX:
of course.
It’s fascinating historically. The movie “Michael Collins” is worth a look.
@ RIX:
my ex-dad in law owned the moorings in kinsale, ireland.
a bigger and better guy never walked the earth.
rip pat. i miss ya.
We are having corned beef & Cabbage tomorrow.
My non Irish wife is convinced that I like it & I don’t
have the heart to tell her.
RIX wrote:
i keep wanting to see that.
if its historical i might buy it.
see, my peeps were molly mcguires. we just got pardoned not too long ago
RIX wrote:
yeah. well…its lent.
howz that.
Sinn Fein, my friend.
Sean Connery was in a good movie about the McGuires in PA
Dispensation on St. Patricks, even if it was Friday.
RIX wrote:
my ancestors.
of course, we arent as good looking as mr connery (a scot) and richard harris
RIX wrote:
indeed.
m ex father in law would give up alcohol for lent, except for the 72 hours of st paddy.
Scots?…what about it?
The Wolfhounds are remarkable & huge.
Any dog that can take down a wolf has my respect.
They would protect the flock from wolves & other
predators.
coldwarrior wrote:
Oh the Scots in my family are good looking….none on that side of the family are ugly. None. Of course we come from the Highlander Scots.
heysoos wrote:
Not Scotch…Scotish people.
@ heysoos:
Are you Scottish, my friend?
He gave up alcohol? That’s inhumane!
@ Lily:
my gramma was convinced i look like mr connery,
I’m a Taylor…
a MacLeod
@ heysoos:
Ditto. As one of Scots-Irish ancestry that was long denied existance by the Catholic Church, I’ll offer this:
Dear heavens this would scare anyone…. Yikes!
http://www.6pm.com/steve-madden-p-heavan-taupe-multi?zfcTest=mat%3A1
Sure you are!
@ Lily:
Of course they are on clearance…
RIX wrote:
Bite your tongue, my wolf has full command of the couch tonight and will harm any of you Irish pillow thieves threatening to take her spot tonight.
@ Calo:
indeed I am…in a large part
but I don’t wear a skirt
coldwarrior wrote:
You probably do! Grandma’s are always correct!!!
This conversation reminds me of me dear old grandfar.
The definition of contrarian he was.
A year after his not too distant Irish cousin was executed for his part in the Easter Uprising, Gramps married his German girlfriend, signed on as a Doughboy and marched off to fight the Kaiser.
If you want a good read on the times try ‘Trinity’ by Leon Uris.
If you’re not Irish you’ll learn a lot.
If you are you won’t be able to put it down.
@ Bunk X:
hoy!…have another!
@ RIX:
An Irish Wolfhound, standing on its hind legs, pushes 7 feet tall.
I wouldn’t dare.
heysoos wrote:
MacGregor that was forced to change their last name to another Mc something.
I must admit the Scottish side of my family argue like there is no tomorrow…
Exactly, huge dogs. They are also great family dogs & great with kids.
@ Lily:
fighting is sport for a Scot…just for it’s own sake
@ heysoos:
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2010/03/17/nell-flahertys-drake/
Lily wrote:
I feel a shoe thread hijack coming up soon.
@ RIX:
I never want to see a pug that big.
@ Calo:
I’ve got my phaser set on STFU.
They’re big.
heysoos wrote:
You telling me something I don’t know??? Dear heavens…my father is a Mc …….and yes they argue for sport.
@ RIX:
Bigger than Oprah. Bigger than Michelle’s caboose. Bigger than Charles.
Good night all. I plan to Dream that Obama is not actually President.
A great dream!
Bunk X wrote:
If I find the right shoe it would scared you so much you would drop that drop that phaser and that’s a fact Jack….
Bunk X wrote:
Oh, do you see that CW? Bunk is telling me to piss off.
Bunk X wrote:
But all three weigh more than a wolfhound
@ RIX:
That is kinda of really what is going on ….obama doesn’t do president things but he does have the title.
Calo wrote:
It’s On LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!!!!!!
@ RIX:
Good Night Rix, it was nice to see you here on the OOT tonight.
Do you know where the phrase ‘beyond the pale’ is from?
In the time of Elizabeth I, when the Brits were being beastly to the Irish, there was one area inside Dublin proper called The Pale where the Brits were safe. To leave it was risky and called going beyond the Pale.
Calo wrote:
No…only if we start talking about scary things….fashion crimes really can un-nerve me.
Nite Rix!
eaglesoars wrote:
Another version of Beyond the Pale
poteen wrote:
well played.
@ Calo:
@ Calo:
yeah, well now I think it applies to the entire country
a late night phone call from rodan is a hoot.
@ eaglesoars:
Yep, nothing new to see here, same crap different day.
How is Molly tonight?
@ Lily:
No, no, no, no.
Not that song. It brings up memories of a long lost friend for me.
@ Lily:
i got to see them do
the wall
at the wall
eaglesoars wrote:
damn right
Calo wrote:
Not too bad. Thanks. I don’t want to bore everyone, but I told CW about work on a melanoma vaccine you might be interested in. Ask him offline.
@ Calo:
then watch this>
@ Calo:
K something else then……
coldwarrior wrote:
Lucky you!!!! Bet that was a blast!
Lily wrote:
there was a time where i thought pink floyd was following me.
coldwarrior wrote:
Gosh when I was younger…I had fun…and my first boyfriend really was following me around..that was rather creepy…for 30 years.
coldwarrior wrote:
Somehow, I think you were dippin’ into haysoos’ bowl when you thought that.
Lily wrote:
heres the trick:
i never had to leave the city i was in by assignment , i saw them 8 times in 3 years.
i was getting irritated that they were following me.
Calo wrote:
i prefer the dead.
but that’s just me
@ Calo:
i’m grumpy i’m not in IC tonight.
/
@ coldwarrior:
WOW! I had to put my phone number in my son’s name….so he can’t find it and telling me how he watches me. Last time he called me and hubby were watching Fatal Attraction…I made my husband answer the phone. Naturally husband didn’t see the creepiness like I did. It was really creepy!
Calo wrote:
Are you sure that isn’t shrooms you are talking about?
Lily wrote:
oh! what?
@ coldwarrior:
two words…
peyote
@ coldwarrior:
I like a variety of bands…depends on my mood…
heysoos wrote:
There ya go! That is what I was thinking….I knew it..
Lily goes *boom* on being right and nobody knew.
heysoos wrote:
i might be last person that you want to get into psychedelic bona fides with.
peyote twice.
and i raise you an ayawhasca
heysoos wrote:
Hey that’s one word. Not two. Just saying. It’s all good though.
@ coldwarrior:
I’m patiently waiting for my friend.
Lily wrote:
its two sylabi?
that counts.
coldwarrior wrote:
I knew someone knew what I was talking about…never had them though. I swear..I didn’t want to see little green men.
coldwarrior wrote:
Well….maybe….
@ coldwarrior:
did quite a bit of peyote back in the 70s with some peopleI met In Nederland CO…they bought it from a licensed Indian…man I tell you that was something…I blended it into a smoothie o get it down..best natural buzz by far
heysoos wrote:
i prefer it. its just too hard to come by now.
that makes me sad.
i’m an old dead head, did 2 burning man’s, 2 bonarroos,
@ Calo:
Ah yeah you want some Stones???
Lily wrote:
would they want to see you?
its all up to you.
@ coldwarrior:
Ah you like head music…..not the band but the group of kids that liked to smoke the herb…that is what they were called in the 70′s.
@ heysoos:
check this:
coldwarrior wrote:
Good one …. let’s flip a coin! Back in the day hell yeah…now? Depends. This lady has seen better looking days. I look like a chicken when I wake up now.
Ask Calo….I think I’m ugly.
@ Lily:
CW was a grateful head
@ heysoos:
@ Lily:
maybe they are after a good buscuit recipe?
heysoos wrote:
do check some robert randolph, i think you will like
@ coldwarrior:
@ Lily:
hey ya’ll
well if this is a drinkin thread and a drinkin holiday is comming then we must have this
coldwarrior wrote:
Little green men …. no, no, no! I’d have a freak out…so no shrooms for me. I’d freak! I knew back then and know it now. Yikes!
@ rain of lead:
if rain is here….
@ Lily:
Good God Lily, you were a beautiful woman all curled up in a hospital bed minus your finest shoes and post Open Heart surgery.
Again, the pleasure is all mine to call you my friend in real life.
@ coldwarrior:
that cat is really under appreciated by the mainstream, typical of the blues…he works really hard and can flat out play
@ rain of lead:
RAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! How the hell are you doing????? You can tune a piano but you can’t tuna fish!!!
@ Lily:
reo was a skosh before my time. i saw them with blue oyster cult a few years ago.
they were fantastic
coldwarrior wrote:
i’m breakn out the 18 single malt
@ rain of lead:
note of interest
the record company did NOT want to make this vid…at all
there was NO money for it
rick schroder(the soldier) BEGGED brad p to let him make it
they practicaly paid for it out of their own pockets
@ heysoos:
lobo91 took your name in vain last nite. He said you don’t like the Eagles.
Then we started to wonder if it was the band or the football team.
So?
Danny Boy, played by jazz great Maynard Ferguson
@ Lily:
@ coldwarrior:
@ Calo:
@ heysoos:
hey ya’ll
just been busy as a one legged man at an ass-kickin contest
got some vaca time coming up so I’m taking momcat and the girl down to the gulf for a few days
@ Calo:
You are going to make me cry!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so nice to say! I just feel like I’m not aging well….very insecure ..you know that by now!
Now something happy to you my friend…gosh we are alike except for the you know I’m very challenged in my height.
@ eaglesoars:
football Eagles…from that godforsaken Philadelphia town…I hate those guys
The Wild Rover
@ Lily:
heh
from one shorty to another
(this came out when I was in jr h.s.
and I hate this F-ing song
coldwarrior wrote:
Yes they were….they were cool …..and awesome…
heysoos wrote:
heh. Thought so. Told him that even if you didn’t like the Eagles’ music you would never disrespect their talent.
Lobo doesn’t know much about football apparently, so I clued him into that thug Dirty Waters.
Just wanted to be sure.
here is a fun drinking song in honor of st paddys day
@ rain of lead:
I was 16 when that came out…never liked it or disliked it…let’s just say I didn’t buy it…so that says a whole lot.
@ mfhorn:
now pay attention all yinz. the hardest song in the western world to sing:
go ahead…try:
happy st pats.
luke never loses his breath.
@ rain of lead:
Down to the gulf…you can’t go wrong….my living area….
@ coldwarrior:
the same band,
@ Lily:
thank ya ma’am
loves me some ccr
my running buddies from high school made susie q as our party anthem
(yeah, there is a story there)
coldwarrior wrote:
18? Oh that reminds me of this then….don’t know why I like this song …but I do.
@ coldwarrior:
ummm
does that good old Irish drinkin song come with lyrics
cause I couldn’t understand a word he said
rain of lead wrote:
Oh man you have no idea how close suzie Q is close to my name…and I am called that at times too. Small world!!!
@ coldwarrior:
Hell, I couldn’t sing that if I had the lyrics in front of me.
@ Lily:
well.
an 18 single malt from the outers….
i might counter with
rain of lead wrote:
eaglesoars wrote:
Eagles??? My all time favorite song of theirs…there is a story to it…but I’m not talking!
I don’t care what anyone says this is a good song. There I said it! Just hope a damn coon (raccoon) doesn’t fall on you if you disagree with me.
@ Lily:
heh, much drunken….stuff was commited at the playing of susie q
@ Calo:
@ Lily:
hahahaha
you too ?
maybe someday when the statute of limitations expires
hahahahahaha
rain of lead wrote:
mfhorn wrote:
THAT my laddies IS the real irish boozin song.
mfhorn wrote:
it goes like this
Drop Kick Murphies:
@ Lily:
Gonna rumble tonight, boy.
@ rain of lead:
This song is one I remember I was drunk as a skunk..and I don’t drink. My head was spinning to this one. Now ladies and gents this was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day. The only thing I drink now is ice tea and soda’s. Someone get a Bible so I can swear to that!
But back in the day lime daiquiri on the rocks could kick your rear..
@ eaglesoars:
“Beyond the pale” is an overused phrase. On the other hand, I enjoy the etymology of obscure idioms.
Bunk X wrote:
glad you liked it
@ coldwarrior:
Czech yinzbox.
Bunk X wrote:
Damn straight Bunk….just make sure that damn coon doesn’t fall on you….bad things happen…or good things coon gumbo!
/plus pink is a good color for me too.
@ coldwarrior:
I usually can’t keep up with him.
Rodan happens.
Bunk X wrote:
me too.
UP THE REPUBLIC!
@ Lily:
Bookmark this and save it for later.
@ Bunk X:
I know that album back and front….thanks and I will bookmark it!
Bunk X wrote:
we might go to rodan in the spring.
@ Lily:
Tell the whole story. I stopped eventually. Sorry.
@ Bunk X:
hey yo.
this is all schmutzed up. can we get a new thread?
Bunk X wrote:
The few times I went on the radio show we talk over each other. In the south you got your slow talkers and fast talkers…nothing in between. Nothing. Although Rodan is a transplant …you adapt to the south and take on it’s ways. The circle of life.
Bunk X wrote:
ok
Bunk X wrote:
@ Calo:
One of the prettiest songs the Stones did. Mick does that rummy windmill.
It just dawned on me that I can keep commenting on this thread by re-using the same post tonight by updating it. Cool. Saves a lot of trouble.
Pray for Dolores Gonzales Perez.
Dody was diagnosed with multiple cancers recently, and decided to forgo chemotherapy. The missus and I saw her last Thursday. She was able to talk, and I made her laugh a bit before her meds kicked in.
Her prescriptions are enough to kill a person -- morphine injections, morphine patch, morphine pills.
Dody was cool. She did sexy voice overs for commercials, and she was good looking, too. 5 foot 10 or so and busty, she was one of the few women who could have made me stray…
@ coldwarrior:
:::
well…golf….
i’ll get with ya
@ Lily:
I never called the police on you at least.
Lily wrote:
rodan is not a circle of life.
nope
@ Bunk X:
It’s 42 fuc*ing minutes long. Really, can you post an Idiot’s Guide?
@ coldwarrior:
/don’t tell him I said that though.
@ Bunk X:
Calo wrote:
Hey, hey, hey!
Damn everyone has passed out…and left me alone. It’s a cruel world I tell ya!
@ Bunk X:
Some nights deserve a distraction, albeit, a bit awkward.
Prayers for Dody’s family and friends.
May she have a gentle passing on.
@ Lily:
nope
@ Bunk X:
Prayers sent…and #166 posted for ya!
coldwarrior wrote:
It’s an Irish and Scottish miracle!!!!!
@ Calo:
So what? It’s awesome.
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/2013/03/16/celtic-round-hounds/#comment-1184253
wt hell
@ coldwarrior:
000000
hmmm,
90 s
coldwarrior wrote:
This is the problem….it’s bad for sure.
Pretoria, you were always there
Because you lay in my vault I call you my home
I never forget your name
Pretoria, asking if my child
Is the name so much so bitter and bad
Why throw you away
And I know that the country should exist
together,
But it hurts so many people
If all those old names perish
Pretoria, Pretoria, I’ll never forget your name
coldwarrior wrote:
It gets strange late at night…and fun…
Okay I’m done for the evening…nite all!
wanz is gonna get big
put it down now
So I just noticed, there’s three of those hounds in that Celtic doohickie…
It’s a TRISKEL!
Like AWB!
And Tennessee!
Chuck Sees Neo Not Sees!
coldwarrior wrote:
Oh c’mon. Chicks dig him. Rodan is a pretzel of life.
@ Lily:
Thanks for the memories. You a John Prine fan?
@ The Osprey:
Snamp me!
@ The Osprey:
The Prisoner. No. 6 could never get his mind right, so they kept making him dig invisible holes.
Not dead yet, eh?
My relatives may have taken part in the Easter Rebellion, but my direct ancestors were alread here in America. But I suspect the Easter Rebellion was pretty small stuff in County Leitrim andyway. Still the poorest, least populous county in Ireland.
Okay, now it’s dead.
The wife’s family tree, OTOH, is English. English, English, English, with just a bit of English thrown in for variety, as far back as records go. And for her main descent lines, they go back pretty damned far. All kinds of interesting relatives, including George Washington and Daniel Morgan, all documented to DAR standards.
@ Mike C.:
That is fascinating. I’m always interested in these kind of facts. Washington and Morgan (hero of Cowpens) were great American heroes. I wish all Americans were aware of what it took to create this country and what their ancestors did to effect that.
@ eaglesoars:
The Celtic term “bean sidhe” is prounounced “beyan ishee” and is the word known as “banshee.”
@ coldwarrior:
Lemme know. I might be in the area.
@ BatGuano:
After the war, Morgan came back to this area and built and operated a mill near Berryville, VA. One of the wife’s brothers (the gun nut one, and my personal favorite amongst her siblings) had a big hand in restoring that mill a number of years back -- very cool. Our town here is where Washington had his office (still standing) back when he was starting out and working as a surveyor for Lord Fairfax. We’re up to our everlovings in history in these parts. A number of Mort Kunstler paintings (http://mortkunstler.com/) depict loacal and town scenes, and it’s easy to spot excactly where they are, as many of the buildings are still here.
@ Mike C.:
Wow! I love these historical facts. We shouldn’t forget our history.I believe that wellington,at Waterloo, learned from Morgan to keep troops concealed behind hills to surprise enemy troops.
Alrighty, then. Sorry I woke anyone up.
Oh, I’m still here. JUst reading other things to raise my blood pressure. No shortage of that stuff these days, you know.
@ Mike C.:
Yes I know. We have a very dangerous president, the economy is stagnant, the Dow appears to be racing toward a bubble, artificially low interest rates, etc.
Good Mornin All….and CJ can go eat carp//
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@ BatGuano:
Drones, gun confiscation, police militarization, etc., etc., etc. Got ammo?
@ mawskrat:
Read WUWT. The latest version of the “Hocky Stick” has already been shot down, and ClimateGate 3.0 e-mails are being reviewed. And the latter is just as bad as 1.0 and 2.0.
@ Mike C.:
The Mann hockey stick has been proven a fraud. why do these bastards keep doing this? Rhetorical question.
@ The Osprey:
selrahC probably sees a Beast with Three Backs!
@ BatGuano:
Well, this time it’s Marcotte et al, and once again, Steve McIntyre blows their shit away.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/16/mcintyre-finds-the-marcott-trick-how-long-before-science-has-to-retract-marcott-et-al/
My second try at Irish soda bread is in the oven…
Goood morning & Happy St. Pats.
Today is a true celestial covergence, St. Patricks Day
& March Madness Brackets Sunday.
‘Schwing!
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@ RIX:
you can have the B..ball/ A couple of football contests
on Fox Soccer Channel today
mawskrat wrote:
?
the real men finished yesterday
wales is the 6 nations champs.
give blood,
play rugby.
RIX wrote:
a very high holy day indeed!
the prophet dickie vitale shall appear today and give us insight into the murky times ahead.
@ mawskrat:
More than a little ridiculous. And outrageous. Kind of like the assorted imams who are living on the taxpayer dime with multiple wives & kids, while ranting about the evils of anyone who isn’t Muslim.
Interesting.
Amen. Verily the prognosticator of prognosticators Dick Vitale,
shall reveal the future. Baby!
@ coldwarrior:
save the baby whales/////
congrats to wales on a great season!
Well, this loaf of soda bread turned out a little more shapely, at least. How it tastes I’ll have to get secondhand, because I baked it for the younger daughter, who’s birthday is today.
mawskrat wrote:
cardiff is hung-over this morning
@ Mike C.:
soda bread is a PITA to get right.
jeeze…10 yrs ago today i was i boston for the dropkick murphys anual st paddies day concert.
tempus fugit.
CW…I’m making a new asparagus bed this spring. it’s
alot of work becuase you’re making it to last 15-20 years.
the pay off is great though as I’ll be planting Jersy Giant
crowns.
mawskrat wrote:
you got the right soil for that?
wisdom from gov palin:
@ coldwarrior:
yep….I’m making the right soil. my trench is about 30
inches deep x about 25 feet long x 3 foot wide. I won’t be planting
the crowns untill this fall though I have them started
in buckets already
coldwarrior wrote:
I tasted it over at the daughter’s -- I think I got it right this time. With a bit of assist from TGoP, who actually knows how to bake stuff.
There was just a former GOP Congressman, LaTureete who now heads some
interest group.
He is really Old Guard & blames the Tea Party for no budget comprimise
and for losing the Presidency.
The Republican mainstream is losing its grip & I get the feeling that they
would rather lose elections than see the new Tea Party members rise.
Boehner: “Absolutely” Trusts Obama, Also Says U.S. Doesn’t Have Immediate Crisis In Terms Of Debt
One of the many reasons I never was or will be a Republican.
I’m not sure that isn’t just a feint to keep the media sharks from feeding. It could be he doesn’t actually believe it.
Another interpretation: “I absolutely trust him to lie to my face every chance he gets”.
I could be wrong.
@ eaglesoars:
I kind of take it the same way, at least I hope so.
If Boehner actually trust Obama, he is naive in the extreme.
@ Bunk X:
That’s about my favorite song I have never heard. Thanks for posting it, Bunk.