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Al Nusra Front is no more

by Rodan ( 115 Comments › )
Filed under Al Qaeda, Islamists at May 20th, 2013 - 8:00 am

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Al Nusra Front was the backbone of the revolt against Bashar Assad. It was their fighters who had won the victories against the Syrian Army, Hizb’Allah and Iranian Basij. Unlike other al-Qaeda outfits, they made alliance with other groups and for the time being tolerated Christians. But success brings envy.

Al Nusra has been al-Qaeda’s biggest success to date. Unlike other al-Qaeda affiliates, they actually won battles and were even viewed as legitimate by the local Syrian people. Al Qaeda central did not like this and jealousy ensued. Al-Qaeda in Iraq moved in and began to take away fighters from this al-Qaeda subsidiary with the blessings of Ayman al-Zawahiri. Now the Syrian element of al Nusra have broken from that organization and are joining the Free Syrian Army and Ahrar al-Sham.

Some of its fighters have withdrawn from the front line against the Assad regime in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo, rebel leaders there have told The Daily Telegraph, and appear to have turned their back on their Syrian leader.

Many Jabhat fighters had been recruited from other, rival militias with the promise of better-funded and better-organised units rather than for ideological reasons.

But they are said to have become disillusioned since their Syrian leader, Abu Mohammed al-Jolani, affirmed his loyalty to al-Qaeda after an apparent takeover at the top of Jabhat by hardline jihadists from Iraq.

“The group has split,” Mohammed Najib Bannan, the head of the Aleppo Judicial Committee’s military arm, said. The committee is backed by the major rebel brigades and runs civil and criminal courts in Aleppo alongside the city’s Sharia court.

[....]

Jabhat fighters in the east of the country had started calling themselves the “Islamic State of Iraq and Syria” on videos posted online – the name preferred by the international al-Qaeda leadership. They include a group that carried out a public execution of three regime officers in the town square in Raqqa last week.

Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda’s leader since the death of Osama bin Laden, appointed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the former head of the Islamic State of Iraq, head of a new merged organisation. Al-Jolani apparently acquiesced in this move after initially opposing it.

Baghdadi is regarded as committed to using intense violence for sectarian purposes and to break down society in such a way to give “space” for jihad to flourish. He proclaims the need for an international caliphate, ending national borders.

Many Jabhat fighters say they are Syrians first and joined Jabhat just to rid the country of President Bashar al-Assad, and because the brigade was considered less corrupt and more religious.

Al Nusra was not al-Qaeda enough for al-Zawahiri and he ordered his henchmen in Al-Qaeda in Iraq to take over. This has caused a halt to rebel gains and Assad is now on the offensive in the Damascus and Homs province with the help of Hizb’Allah and Iranians who no longer have to worry about facing al-Nusra.

The result of the demise of al-Nusra means that the likelihood of US intervention and/or openly supplying the rebels will increase. The Syrian rebels can now claim that they are not al-Qaeda. This will be the excuse Obama uses to justify his arming of the rebels. They may not be al-Qaeda, but they are still Islamists.

The demise of al-Nusra shows the backward nature of Islamic thinking. Instead of applauding Nusra’s success, the parent organization was jealous and ended it.

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115 Responses to “Al Nusra Front is no more”
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  1. 1 | May 20, 2013 8:04 am

    Ah! They’re still arguing over the correct enunciation of The Muslim National Anthem™!


  2. 2 | May 20, 2013 8:27 am

    The demise of al-Nusra shows the backward nature of Islamic thinking. Instead of applauding Nusra’s success, the parent organization was jealous and ended it.

    Islam is a religion of caravan raiders. What we are seeing here, and in the conflicts between al Nusra and Hezbollah, and, for tha t matter, inthe Sunni/Shia split is the squabbling of bandits over the spoils. What is delicious about this is they are squabbling over the spoils of war before they’ve won the war. That makes it much more unlikely that they will win. In Syria, there areally are no good guys. Assad is a genuine bad guy, but so are the people who would replace him. Our best bet is to stay out of it. There i sno up-side to US involvement in the Syrian civil war.


  3. coldwarrior
    3 | May 20, 2013 8:33 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    its like watching a fight break out at a family reunion, and its best as outsiders that we stay faaaaaarrrrr away!


  4. Aussie Infidel
    4 | May 20, 2013 8:34 am

    Opps ! He shouldn’t have said that

    http://nation.foxnews.com/obama/2013/05/19/obama-admits-he-s-socialist


  5. Aussie Infidel
    5 | May 20, 2013 8:35 am

    Keep the popcorn flowing :)
    @ coldwarrior:


  6. 6 | May 20, 2013 8:37 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Yeah, they’d band together against Outsiders if we are so foolish as to go in there. We’d see the “Free Syrian Army” or al Qaeda in Syria or whatever they want to call themselves doing suicide bombings of our troops within weeks of us putting boots on the ground there. There is nothing in Syria for us. Obama’s going to have a hard time making the justification for it after all his protests against the Iraq war. That isn’t to say, though, that he won’t try to Wag the Dog to get attention off of his domesticv scandals. We need to not let that happen.


  7. 7 | May 20, 2013 8:40 am

    I call attention to the most recent ‘Headline’ by Huckfunn over to the right. That statement by Morgan is a real gob-smacker. Welcome to the real world, Piers…


  8. coldwarrior
    8 | May 20, 2013 8:41 am

    Aussie Infidel wrote:

    Keep the popcorn flowing
    @ coldwarrior:

    indeed, and send bullets to both sides.

    but do stand back.


  9. waldensianspirit
    9 | May 20, 2013 8:44 am

    More like a facade removed


  10. 10 | May 20, 2013 8:44 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Yeah, I wish Obama would go “Bulworth”. Take the mask off, and let the anti-American hatred flow freely! Show the American people exactly what they voted for when they re-elected this monster. HE already has on the gun control issue. He failed, but he showed that all of his rhetoric about “respecting” the Second Amendment was empty. That’s not a winner with the American people, which is why he couldn’t even get anything through the Democrat-controlled Senate. I think if he did take the mask off, even many Democrats would shy away from him. They know this isn’t a hard-Left country. They know supporting a hard-Left President could cost them at the polls. Oh, he’d retain support of the California and New York delegations, but he’d lose most of the rest of the Country.


  11. waldensianspirit
    11 | May 20, 2013 8:46 am

    Go Bullworth, President Obama. I double dog dare ya!


  12. waldensianspirit
    12 | May 20, 2013 8:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    I would be so rewarding watching and playing him ranting his inner lunatic for low info voters


  13. waldensianspirit
    13 | May 20, 2013 8:57 am

    Obama Met With IRS Union Leader Day Before They Targeted Conservatives…

    Does he not sully the Office of the President of the United States?


  14. 14 | May 20, 2013 8:58 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    This shows you why you can’t have peace with Islam. They don’t even like each other.


  15. 15 | May 20, 2013 8:59 am

    @ Aussie Infidel:

    Yet that will do him no political damage.


  16. 16 | May 20, 2013 9:00 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Aussie Infidel wrote:
    Keep the popcorn flowing

    @ coldwarrior:

    indeed, and send bullets to both sides.
    but do stand back.

    Oh yes, keep it at Raghead shooting Raghead at keep well clear!


  17. 17 | May 20, 2013 9:01 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    So far none of the scandals have effected Obama. His approval ratings are still the same.

    I have been telling people here not to get their hopes high. We are not dealing with a normal politician.


  18. 18 | May 20, 2013 9:01 am

    @ AZOlddog:

    Its funny seeing them turn on each other. Its pure comedy.


  19. waldensianspirit
    19 | May 20, 2013 9:02 am

    @ Rodan:
    Hopes up mean President Biden. Hardly a gain or something to work for


  20. coldwarrior
    20 | May 20, 2013 9:03 am

    AZOlddog wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    Aussie Infidel wrote:
    Keep the popcorn flowing
    @ coldwarrior:
    indeed, and send bullets to both sides.
    but do stand back.

    Oh yes, keep it at Raghead shooting Raghead at keep well clear!

    eye and ear protection required.


  21. 21 | May 20, 2013 9:05 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    I think too many Conservatives have gotten giddy prematurely. Obam,a has suffered no damage in his job approval numbers from these scandals. I knew it would not make a dent. He has a hold on people and I wish more on the Right would understand what they are up against.

    This man can burn a child alive on TV, and it would do him no damage.


  22. coldwarrior
    22 | May 20, 2013 9:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    o aint going anywhere.


  23. 23 | May 20, 2013 9:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    Overlooking one obvious point -- Obama isn’t running for office in 2014 and/or 2016. But all of the House and 2/3rds of the Senate are. And Obama’s personal approval doesn’t matter much if the policies are despised. Ant-gun is already a loser, O-care is going to land across the board like a ton of bricks come January, the press worship has been rather badly damaged, and you just know there’s more to come. O’s personal popularity is non-transferrable.


  24. 24 | May 20, 2013 9:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    Bush wasn’t really hurt by Abu Grab-ass when it first came out, either. It was when Katrina happened, and the Press turned it itnot a much bigger disaster than it was, that Bush’s approval rating tanked. Obama has ahad a couple of Katrina level disasters, but he has skated bcause the Press is on his side. If he loses that, though, he is in trouble. Again, by that I don’t mean that he will be impeached. That isn’t going to happen. But he won’t be able to get his agenda through congress. He has already failed on his gun control agenda. Immigration is looking doubtful in the House, and even Senate. I’ve seen reports that Rubiop may be backing away from his grand sell-out to Chuckie Schumer because the Democrats have made it plain that real border enforcement is out of th question (too much drug money in the Democrat caucus for that? I wouldn’t be at all surprised). ObamaCare is already a train wreck, and it’ll get worse throughout the year. No, Obama isn’t looking like a winner on the legislative front.


  25. 25 | May 20, 2013 9:09 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.


  26. 26 | May 20, 2013 9:13 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    No, Obama isn’t looking like a winner on the legislative front.

    That is the best we can hope for. All this talk that Obama is finished was typical premature giddiness on the part of many Conservatives. I warned people last week not to get excited about this. The normal political rules do not apply to Obama. He can skin a human on TV and the people will still love that man.

    The best we can hope for is legislative stalemate. Nothing more and nothing less.


  27. coldwarrior
    27 | May 20, 2013 9:13 am

    @ Mike C.:

    pretty sure every president gets whacked in the second term mid-term elections. so hopefully, the whacking is quite nasty this time round.

    all of this ‘scandal’ has prevented the obamacare details from getting traction…triple health care premiums, taxable premiums….the list goes on and on and no one is paying attention to it.

    fact is, the gun stuff is irrelevant if obamacre becomes the law of the land. fedgov then owns everyone outright. they will control when you are allowed to live and will control your every action by bureaucratic fiat. becasue everything you do impacts health care and everything will be controlled.


  28. 28 | May 20, 2013 9:13 am

    coldwarrior wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    o aint going anywhere.

    Obama is in Conservatives Odaloops.


  29. coldwarrior
    29 | May 20, 2013 9:14 am

    Rodan wrote:

    coldwarrior wrote:
    @ Rodan:
    o aint going anywhere.
    Obama is in Conservatives Odaloops.

    ‘conservatives’ dont have ooda loops. they dont think that far ahead.


  30. dwells38
    30 | May 20, 2013 9:14 am

    Can’t open his mouth without either lying or infusing race where it doesn’t belong:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-uses-commencement-address-recall-jim-crow-racism_724896.html

    Gee thanks for bringing us all down Preezy. Golly you can hardly get elected President, adored by the media and make millions of dollars in America, being a minority. Oh the humanity! Maybe you and George Lopez can get together for a pity party.


  31. 31 | May 20, 2013 9:14 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    It does not help having that crazy loon Bachmann on TV being the cheif Republican spokesperson on TV for the IRS scandal.


  32. 32 | May 20, 2013 9:15 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    Good point.


  33. coldwarrior
    33 | May 20, 2013 9:16 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    It does not help having that crazy loon Bachmann on TV being the cheif Republican spokesperson on TV for the IRS scandal.

    well, has she done anything goofy yet has she been ok?


  34. 34 | May 20, 2013 9:16 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    The real goat ropes in Katrina were perpetrated by the DemProg Governor and Mayor.

    The press artfully blamed Bush for shit He Did Not Control.

    Now Barky is not responsible for ANYTHING!!!!


  35. coldwarrior
    35 | May 20, 2013 9:17 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    Good point.

    ooda loops require an actual goal, strategy, and some well thought out tactics.


  36. 36 | May 20, 2013 9:18 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    She’s a distraction.


  37. 37 | May 20, 2013 9:18 am

    @ AZOlddog:

    The press is protecting their god-king.


  38. coldwarrior
    38 | May 20, 2013 9:19 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ coldwarrior:
    She’s a distraction.

    well, if bachman makes it about her, then its an opportunity lost.


  39. coldwarrior
    39 | May 20, 2013 9:19 am

    gotta start construction on the obstacle course swing set/tree house for the girls…bbl.


  40. 40 | May 20, 2013 9:21 am

    @ coldwarrior:

    That is exactly what she is doing.


  41. 41 | May 20, 2013 9:23 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    O’s personal popularity is non-transferrable

    Exactly. He’s really not that popular. He floats at around the 50-50 mark. That isn’t enough to drive policy. I could care less whether Obama gets to golf with Tiger Woods again. I am concerned about the policies coming out of the White House. He’ll be able to do too much, though, by Executive Order. His popularity isn’t bad enough to stop that. But things could get considerably worse for him if he loses the press. They are reporting now that the Obama Administration went after A Fox News reporter as early as 2010. The Press may take that as a deliberate threat to their power. It certainly is that. Too, the CEO of AP is saying that they’ve already seen a chilling effect from Obama’s fishing expidition in the AP phone records. If you piss off AP, that only leaves Reuters to give your haigiography every day. I don’t know if Obama can stand being the target of even half of the press. He requires a totally subserviant media to get out the message that he is the greatest president ever. If he loses that, the low info voters may hear things that run counter to his message. These people only believe whatever they are told. If th epress starts telling them how bad Obama is, his popularity is going to take a dive.


  42. waldensianspirit
    42 | May 20, 2013 9:27 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    And people who say they like him many are worried about pc


  43. 43 | May 20, 2013 9:40 am

    @ waldensianspirit:

    Yeah, he gets something of a bump from that. Too, you have to remember that he gets near 100% support from the black community. No white president has ever enjoyed that kind of support from the White Community. Or, fo rthat matter, fom any other community. Evangelicals trend heavily Republicans, but even there you don’t find the uniform purpose behind it the way you do black support of Obama. It is really kind of strange, because if you look at the hard numbers, Obama hasn’t been a goo dPresiden tfor the blacks. Unemployment is bad all over, but it is much worse for the black community than it is for the country as a whole. The list goes on. Everywhere the Obama Economy has hit people, it has disproportionally hit blacks harder. But they do love the man. Rodans rather, um, enthusiastic declarations that the whole country worships the Black Jesus® are very over-stated, but the black community comes close to making what Rodan talks about a reality. I really don’t think there is anything he could do to lose black support.


  44. dwells38
    44 | May 20, 2013 9:43 am

    @ waldensianspirit:
    And I’ve had it with that bullshit. PC? Really? The man’s a half-white millionaire and most of his Administration are half-white proggy, commie millionaires. Their race lectures are nothing but complete bullshit. All they’ve managed to do is make me COMPLETELY inured and indifferent to the supposed plight of the whiney, stupid, lazy minorities out there that are disingenuous and racist themselves, otherwise they’d have a job and their own property and stuff already. In America, there are numerous ways to get educated and get ahead. Just do that and STFU already. It doesn’t take 1000 years of reparations to get off the ground you fucking lamo losers.


  45. 45 | May 20, 2013 9:51 am

    @ dwells38:

    Yeah, Obama’s in trouble, so he trots out Jim Crow. Obama never faced Jim Crow oppression. Never. He didn’t go to a segregated school. HE went to an elite private school. He did benefit from racial preferences though. Kind of the reverse of segregation, which we now know is what blacks (for the most part) really want. Martin Luther King’s dream of a colorblind society isn’t the dream of most of his compatriots. They want Affirmative Action Forever, long after any real damage from segregation has been erased.


  46. 46 | May 20, 2013 9:55 am

    @ dwells38:
    @ Iron Fist:

    Oh, and we can’t even talk about such things without being label ed a RAAAAACIST. I am oveer the RAAAAACIST canard. If someone’s burning a cross on the White House lawn, then they are a racist, but anything less than that I’m not going to credit the accusation. It is just an attempt to shout down diverse opinions.


  47. 47 | May 20, 2013 9:59 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The White Hipsters love the man as well. People keep forgetting about the animal hat crew.


  48. 48 | May 20, 2013 10:00 am

    @ dwells38:

    All they’ve managed to do is make me COMPLETELY inured and indifferent to the supposed plight of the whiney, stupid, lazy minorities out there that are disingenuous and racist themselves

    Plenty of White people like that as well. Its not a racial thing, its the welfare state enabled by Progressive elitists.


  49. 49 | May 20, 2013 10:02 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    He did benefit from racial preferences

    That is why he is President and no matter what he does, he will get away with it.


  50. 50 | May 20, 2013 10:05 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    While Kipling’s “The Man Who Would Be KIng” was a nifty new story in it’s day, the core premise about the fragility of godhood goes back to at least the ancient Greeks. And still holds true today. It’s an observation on human nature more than anything else.


  51. 51 | May 20, 2013 10:06 am

    @ Rodan:

    They are a tiny minority, though. It wasn’ tthe hipsters who put Obama over the top in the election. It was the LIVs. The crowd who that that Dunham woman was just awesome, and Sandra Fluke was a goddess. “Free” birth control bought more votes than there are hipsters in America.


  52. dwells38
    52 | May 20, 2013 10:10 am

    @ Rodan:

    Very true. All one needs is some sort of victim card and the proggys will enable. It’s all about dismantling traditional values and stealing from the productive.


  53. 53 | May 20, 2013 10:12 am

    dwells38 wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    Very true. All one needs is some sort of victim card and the proggys will enable. It’s all about dismantling traditional values and stealing from the productive.

    Its about power pure and simple. Takle away people’s prides and make them wards of the state. Its an old trick that work effectively.


  54. 54 | May 20, 2013 10:14 am

    Now it turns out DOJ spied on Fox reporter James Rosen.

    http://twitchy.com/2013/05/20/chilling-report-obamas-doj-spied-on-fox-news-james-rosen-criminalizes-reporting/#.UZokPcCbX1E.twitter

    No doubt they’ll be trying to get him to share a cell with the guy who made that video. Optics are everything when trying to sell baloney.


  55. 55 | May 20, 2013 10:15 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Hipsters and LIV are tied at the hip. In many cases, they are one and the same.

    Here is the problem I find with the Right in its current state. They still do not understand what they are up against. The Left is the power structure of America. As such the only way to defeat the Left is to come up with a long term, guerilla strategy of slow bleed.

    Until the Right learns to take a long view of things, the Left will have the advantage.


  56. dwells38
    56 | May 20, 2013 10:16 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yes the ones who think he should have been able to use his teleprompter in the debates. Those like the fellow who ventured that George Washington was “that duded from WWII”. These people who evidently haven’t read anything other than their drunk buddy’s or horny gf’s texts. The vast hordes that think anyone who talks about accountability, funded liabilities or fair taxation is an ASSHOLE. IOW, those who have us on a fast track to Idiocracy. That’s the Obama voter. They’re too lazy to even look up commie and find out they are one.


  57. 57 | May 20, 2013 10:22 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    I want to know more about the guy who made the video. Number one, why are the First Amendment First people making noise about this guy being jailed for blasphemy? If this were the guy who made the Piss Christ, all you’d hear about is how his rights were being violated. We’re hearing crickets from the likes of the ACLU here. Is it because he offended Mohammedans? Quite possibly. The ACLU has a noted lack of concern where Mohammedan violations of rights are concerned, like all of the Left. It also may be because it is Obama doin gthe violating. Just as you don’t see the Left squawk about Obama’s Drone War, you don’t hear them bitching here because they don’t really care who’s rights Obama violates. But the Conservative media is falling down on this too. Doesn’t Nakoula want to get his side of the story out? Can’t someone take th etime to go to the jail and interview him? It is a pretty major break with American tradition to jail someone for blasphemy. Hasn’t happend since, I don’t know, the 1600s probably.


  58. 58 | May 20, 2013 10:25 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Can’t offend our Islamic overlords. Much of Conservative media recieves Arab oil money, hence the calls for intervention in Syria. Both the Left and Right in America have been bough and paid for by the Saudis, Qataris and UAE.


  59. 59 | May 20, 2013 10:29 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    From what I understand, the so-called reason for his jailing was that part of his probation/parole, etc., whatever is that he was not allowed to publish on the internet or some such nonsense. I would buy that if there had not been career federal prosecutors that didn’t go on the record as saying this jailing was outrageous -- that customarily you would haul the guy in, slap him on the wrist and extend his probation for another year, especially since the video had NOTHING whatsoever to so with the online crimes he had originally been charged with. But it was the Hildebeest and Oblahblah that hinted to the families that they would be putting the video maker in jail. My question is this -- how could they possibly have known of a probation violation at that stage of the game?

    Where the hell is that much vaunted ACLU when this is going on. Oh, that’s right -- looking under TEA Party beds for racism.


  60. 61 | May 20, 2013 10:35 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    My question is this — how could they possibly have known of a probation violation at that stage of the game?

    That ties into Buzzsawmonkey’s theory that this was all a false flag by the Obama Administration. They knew it would be a “probation violation” because they already knew who’d make this “provocative video” for them. He’d be keeping silent because of beaucoup “Stimulus” money being funneled his way by third parties unknown. I don’t know that I believe that theory, but I can’t discount it, either. It explains too uch that seems unexplainable.


  61. RIX
    62 | May 20, 2013 10:37 am

    Obamas guy Dan Pfieffer was as big of
    a train wreck on the Sunday morning
    shows as Susan Rice was.
    He could not really say where physically Obama
    was on the night of Benghazi.
    All that he could say is that Obama was in constant
    contact with national security advisers.
    Hell, that could have been Sasha & Melia.
    Still 53% of Americans approve of his job performance


  62. waldensianspirit
    63 | May 20, 2013 10:41 am

    @ RIX:
    What was built under the recently White House? He was there.


  63. 64 | May 20, 2013 10:41 am

    @ RIX:

    Still 53% of Americans approve of his job performance

    Nothing damages this guy.


  64. darkwords
    65 | May 20, 2013 10:43 am

    to break down society in such a way to give “space” for jihad to flourish.

    Sounds like it was cut and pasted from the OBama plan for community organizing.


  65. 66 | May 20, 2013 10:45 am

    @ RIX:

    According to Rassmussen his approval is at 48% today:

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama’s job performance. Fifty percent (50%) now disapprove.

    Today’s figures include 26% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 39% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13 (see trends).

    Not near as bad as it should be, bu t it isn’t near as good as Obama would no doubt like. That isn’t the kind of popularity that can drive an agenda through congress, or positively affect the elections next year. People like Obama because of his very carefully crafted public persona. The true believers though are in the sub-30% range. They are out there, and a good percentage of them are blacks who support this President beyond all precedents, but they are decidedly a minority. If the press turns against Obama, though, these numbers will go in the tank very quickly. It is only through a totally subserviant press that Obama’s been able to keep his numbers at around 50%.


  66. RIX
    67 | May 20, 2013 10:46 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Still 53% of Americans approve of his job performance

    Nothing damages this guy.

    That’s the truth & it’s kind of creepy.
    The average American knows more
    about Justin Beiber & Beyonce’s pregnancy
    than any of the Obama scandals.


  67. 68 | May 20, 2013 10:47 am

    @ RIX:

    Not at Ras -- he’s at 48% approval and a -13. They’re trying to bouy up the economic news and putting out that crap about unemployment numbers and reducing the debt/deficit fantasies and THAT is what the low information voters care about.

    The BAD news for them is that a majority think that Congress needs to continue investigation AP/IRS/Benghazi and that the GOP is handling this “just right.” Now with new allegations popping up that he met with IRS union chief right before Conservative groups began being targeted and the spying on James Rosen of Fox -- it’ll be interesting to see what happens next.

    I’m sorry I missed the show last night guys -- my son’s 25th birthday party and a friend had a BBQ for him.


  68. 69 | May 20, 2013 10:48 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    People like Obama because of his very carefully crafted public persona.

    They think he is hip and understans them.


  69. 70 | May 20, 2013 10:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    That strongly approve percentage has fluctuated between 22 and 26% since July of 2009 -- that last time he had positive approval in Ras. These are the Obamabots, the drones, the true believers. He’s gone down to as low as -1 since then, right after the election, but as far as I know has not crossed into a positive number. Striking.


  70. heysoos
    71 | May 20, 2013 10:49 am

    as Duke Nukem used to say…
    what a mess


  71. RIX
    72 | May 20, 2013 10:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    That’s good, Obama has lost five popularity
    points.
    But he should be in single digits.


  72. 73 | May 20, 2013 10:49 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    BBQ, I hope the ribs were good!


  73. 74 | May 20, 2013 10:50 am

    @ RIX:

    We are dealing with cult figure here.


  74. RIX
    75 | May 20, 2013 10:51 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    @ RIX:
    What was built under the recently White House? He was there.

    Obama either knows everything , or he
    knows nothing.
    All depends on what they need that day.


  75. 76 | May 20, 2013 10:52 am

    Time for an OT and completely gratuitous gun comment. I took deliver last week of an HRA manufacture “service grade” M1 Garand from the CMP. It took 93 days from mailing off the rather extensive paperwork required to receive it. The metal is in damned good shape for a 60 year old rifle, IMHO. The wood is dinged, but no cracks of any sort, and it’s either original or was all replaced at the same time, and it sure looks like black walnut to me. The armorer’s tag says both the throat and the muzzle guaged at 2, which is way the hell within military issue tolerance. The crown is not nicked and the bore is clean. It was gunked up with preservative, but an hour or so of work solved that problem.

    My point here is that if you’ve ever had a hankering for one of these, tempis fugit. There are no “rack grade” rifles left. No WRA, SA of IHC manufacture rifles left except maybe in the fancier grades. What there is is HRA manufacture (Korean war) rifles left in field and service grades. CMP isn’t telling anybody how many may be left, but for certain the supply is not infinite. If your grandad or dad or uncles or whoever carried one of these WW II through early Vietnam, or you just like the history, you might want to consider thinking about doing that soon. Hillary’s State Department refused to allow S. Korea to return the last batch to the US, so the window of opportunity is closing at an unknown rate. Just saying…


  76. 77 | May 20, 2013 10:53 am

    @ Rodan:

    I wish there were ribs. Burgers. Hot dogs.
    Too bad because Flyboy makes the best ribs in Northern California. Ask Iron Fist.


  77. 78 | May 20, 2013 10:54 am

    @ Carolina Girl:

    Hot Dogs are my weakness.


  78. RIX
    79 | May 20, 2013 10:56 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Right, the GOP should not make a lot
    of accusations , but follow the facts.
    Obama is up yo his eyeballs in all of this, so let the
    facts bear it out.
    Your story doesn’t keep changing if you tell the
    truth the first time.


  79. waldensianspirit
    80 | May 20, 2013 10:57 am

    The proggie find an unexpected stand still in globAl warming … … since 1998!

    Could it be your nucking futs?!?!?!!?!!

    ht drudge


  80. RIX
    81 | May 20, 2013 10:57 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    We are dealing with cult figure here.

    Yup, when a grown man gets a thrill
    up his leg, something is wrong.
    Of course, Matthews is a twit.


  81. 82 | May 20, 2013 11:04 am

    @ RIX:

    That is what I have been calling for. Death by 1000 cuts and let Obama implode. Instead too many on the Right are on TV making crazy statements and distracting from these scandals.


  82. 83 | May 20, 2013 11:05 am

    @ RIX:

    That someone who spouts the deranged ranting that Matthews has gotten away with is beyond me. Did NBC cancel his show or was that someone else. Good lord, if Sean Hannity said 1/10th the lunacy on Fox that Tingles spouts on MSLSD, they’d be crying for his head.

    Of course, the fact that more people READ about Tingles’ asshat comments at places like this and Weasel Zippers than ever watch it live always makes me giggle.


  83. 84 | May 20, 2013 11:05 am

    @ RIX:

    Sadly too many on our side do not grasp what they are dealing with.


  84. waldensianspirit
    85 | May 20, 2013 11:07 am

    “They’ve obstructed me from doing my congressional duty,” he says. “When I went over there, a State Department babysitter intimidated me and many others.”

    “The State Department had people watching my every move,” he recalls. “But even as they watched me like a hawk, I was able to see how ill-prepared the embassy was for an attack. There were walls that weren’t very tall, and trees that could be climbed. One of the walls was so low that some people were able to prop up a ladder to dump trash on our embassy’s grounds. I asked one of my guides why that was allowed, and he shook his head and said, ‘Well, I guess we just didn’t want to offend the neighbors.’”

    But the worst part of the journey, Chaffetz says, was having State Department lawyer Jeremy Freeman along, shadowing him through every meeting. Hicks and other U.S. diplomats, he says, were effectively muzzled by his presence. “And at one point, Hicks had to leave a meeting, only to be chastised over the phone by Cheryl Mills, Hillary Clinton’s top adviser,” he says. “It was unsettling — to see, up close, the depths to which Secretary Clinton was willing to go to manipulate the process.”


  85. RIX
    86 | May 20, 2013 11:07 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    That is what I have been calling for. Death by 1000 cuts and let Obama implode. Instead too many on the Right are on TV making crazy statements and distracting from these scandals.

    Big mistake, they will make Obama a sympathetic
    figure. That happened to Clinton.
    These scandals are profoundly serious & a methodical
    investigation would be the worse thing for Obama.


  86. 87 | May 20, 2013 11:08 am

    @ Rodan:

    A good hot dog is a meal fit for royalty. I long ago stopped looking for meals at any of the upscale places in MIA when I transit there. I just make a beeline for the nearest Nathan’s stand. They can keep the rather nasty fries -- just give me the dog.

    The wife bought a pack of Nieman’s Ranch dogs once -- OMG!!!


  87. dwells38
    88 | May 20, 2013 11:09 am

    @ waldensianspirit:
    I just read that. Of course, the conclusion is it’s still warming. It’s just that they didn’t factor in ocean absorption er something. IOW it’s always something they didn’t account for but the warming is still going to happen. The jackass says something like 15 years stagnation is way too short to conclude warming’s not going to happen. It would need to be something like 40 yrs. Mmmmhmmm. IOW way after I’m long gone can we begin to question it. So for now you must proceed as if the planet’s warming at an alarming rate even when it isn’t.

    These people would be selling snake oil in another era. Has it occurred to any of these dumbasses that there are a zillion other things in a complex planetary climate that they didn’t take into account? No I didn’t think so. The science is all settled.


  88. RIX
    89 | May 20, 2013 11:09 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    Ed Schultze got moved to the weekend.
    Thy really need to toss a net over Laurence
    O’Donnell.


  89. RIX
    90 | May 20, 2013 11:10 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Sadly too many on our side do not grasp what they are dealing with.

    True, the standard rules do not apply to Obama.
    You can’t hang him, but he can hang himself.


  90. 91 | May 20, 2013 11:12 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Hot Dogs are the best meals. When I go to a BBQ, Hot Dogs are my main priority. I like BBQ or boiled.


  91. texasam7
    92 | May 20, 2013 11:13 am

    @ Mike C.:
    “Welcome to the party, pal!!”


  92. 93 | May 20, 2013 11:13 am

    Quick folks -- we need to get Magic Jazzy Ponytail and Ludwig Von Prickhoven on suicide watch:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22567023

    h/t Zip.


  93. 94 | May 20, 2013 11:16 am

    @ texasam7:

    Puss Morgan and Scuzzborough found that being anti-gun didn’t work well for their ratings. Now it would seem they’re running to catch the bandwagon and hope no one notices.


  94. 95 | May 20, 2013 11:20 am

    @ Rodan:

    I think grilled are best, but I’ll take them how I can get them. Nieman’s Ranch if somebody is feeling made out of money; otherwise, Nathan’s or Hebrew National will work. The long ones that actually fit a decent bun, please.

    I won’t get into condiments because I don’t want to start a religious war. To each his own, I say.


  95. waldensianspirit
    96 | May 20, 2013 11:23 am

    texasam7 wrote:

    @ Mike C.:
    “Welcome to the party, pal!!”

    Can they grasp it is an inequality where it is never possible to go back to supporting the removal of the Second Amendment?


  96. Bumr50
    97 | May 20, 2013 11:23 am

    Trying to click on a piece titled something like ‘Has the IRS Already Seized Your Medical Records?’ over at AmSpec.

    All of a sudden AmSpec doesn’t work.

    Coinkydink?

    //


  97. RIX
    98 | May 20, 2013 11:24 am

    BTW, It’s Cher’s birthday!
    She is 67 today, meaning that her IQ & age
    now match.
    If you have read her tweets, you know what I
    mean.


  98. waldensianspirit
    99 | May 20, 2013 11:25 am

    @ Carolina Girl:
    They’ve never titrated a buffer yet alone multiple


  99. lobo91
    100 | May 20, 2013 11:29 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    @ texasam7:
    Puss Morgan and Scuzzborough found that being anti-gun didn’t work well for their ratings. Now it would seem they’re running to catch the bandwagon and hope no one notices.

    Bloomberg certainly hasn’t noticed:

    Nanny Bloomberg Uses Commencement Speech To Rail Against “Extremist” NRA…

    New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg used a commencement speech to push his gun-control agenda, telling graduates of Kenyon College in Ohio that gun control is “something you really should think about.”

    Bloomberg, who co-chairs Mayors Against Illegal Guns, spent at least $14 million in support of legislation that would have required universal background checks for all gun-buyers. Although the bill died in the Senate on April 17, Bloomberg said the battle isn’t over. [...]

    “Too many members of Congress did not have the courage to stand up to the increasing extremist views of the NRA’s Washington lobbyists,” he said. “Many of them feared that voting for a common sense policy that would lead to someone challenging them in a primary, or hurt their chances to win a party’s nomination to higher office is too big a price to pay for saving 30-odd thousand lives a year.”

    Bloomberg spent the better part of his 15 minute address on gun control, telling the graduates that since they were freshmen four years ago, more than 40,000 American people have been murdered with guns.


  100. 101 | May 20, 2013 11:31 am

    @ RIX:

    Exactly.


  101. 102 | May 20, 2013 11:33 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Grilled are the best! Yes, Condiments are very sacred to hot dog eaters!


  102. 103 | May 20, 2013 11:33 am

    @ Mike C.:

    I’m a fan of the Hebrew National quarter-pounders. Fits on a deli-roll without the bread overpowering it. And you can get all the condiments on there!


  103. heysoos
    104 | May 20, 2013 11:34 am

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ Rodan:
    I think grilled are best, but I’ll take them how I can get them. Nieman’s Ranch if somebody is feeling made out of money; otherwise, Nathan’s or Hebrew National will work. The long ones that actually fit a decent bun, please.
    I won’t get into condiments because I don’t want to start a religious war. To each his own, I say.

    a Nathan’s Famous, grilled over a real hot flame, cheap bun, chili (no meat), onions and plain yellow mustard…fit for a king


  104. 105 | May 20, 2013 11:34 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    “It was unsettling — to see, up close, the depths to which Secretary Clinton was willing to go to manipulate the process.”

    And Issa doesn’t want any of this to come back and hurt her. He’s made it clear that his “investigation” is more about protecting Hillary Clinton than it is getting to the truth. Why does he call himself a Republican if he is going to so publicly go to bat for the Democrats?


  105. heysoos
  106. 107 | May 20, 2013 11:36 am

    New Thread.


  107. Bumr50
    108 | May 20, 2013 11:36 am

    heysoos wrote:

    chili (no meat)

    ?????


  108. 109 | May 20, 2013 11:37 am

    @ heysoos:

    Other than preferring a brown or spicey mustard to the Kraft stuff, I’ll buy that.


  109. 110 | May 20, 2013 11:37 am

    @ Rodan:

    Anything but microwaved -- even those hot dogs that they sell for the express purpose of microwaving.

    ONE person in Florida won the effing Power Ball? Oh man…..


  110. RIX
    111 | May 20, 2013 11:37 am

    Carolina Girl wrote:

    Quick folks — we need to get Magic Jazzy Ponytail and Ludwig Von Prickhoven on suicide watch:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22567023

    h/t Zip.

    If this was back in the day, Johnson would
    ban discussion of this.
    This group is obedient though & they just
    know better.


  111. Bumr50
  112. heysoos
    113 | May 20, 2013 11:40 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    heysoos wrote:
    chili (no meat)
    ?????

    just beans and sauce…available anywhere


  113. Bumr50
    114 | May 20, 2013 11:41 am

    @ heysoos:

    I know.

    It’s just one of those things whose very existence I question.

    Without meat, it’s just fancy beans!!


  114. heysoos
    115 | May 20, 2013 11:42 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    I know.
    It’s just one of those things whose very existence I question.
    Without meat, it’s just fancy beans!!

    fancy beans are a staple in the SW


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