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Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad

by Speranza ( 168 Comments › )
Filed under Barack Obama, British Islamic Jihadists, Leftist-Islamic Alliance, Multiculturalism, Political Correctness, UK at May 26th, 2013 - 12:04 pm

It is not only Obama who is/was in denial,  that would  include Bush,  Blair, Cameron, Boris Johnson and just about any politician who spews out nonsense about Islam being a religion of peace.

by Paul Sperry

Even more shocking than the barbarity of the terrorist attacks in London and Boston is the denial by authorities on both sides of the Atlantic about their common religious motive.

British Muslims offered the same explanation as American Muslims for slaughtering their fellow citizens — Islamic holy war — yet the political classes on both sides of the pond rejected it out of hand.

Just minutes after British-born Michael Adebolajo and another Brit ambushed and decapitated soldier Lee Rigby, 25, in the middle of a London street, he spoke calmly into a camera, his blood-stained hands still holding the meat cleaver: “The only reason we have killed this man today is because Muslims are dying daily by British soldiers, and this British soldier is eye-for-an-eye and tooth-for-a-tooth.”

Adebolajo, 28, added that their holy book commands them to seek such revenge.

London’s mayor dismissed his theological rationale as “deluded” and “deranged.” Prime Minister David Cameron said the sickening attack was “a betrayal of Islam.”

Added the British leader: “There is nothing in Islam that justifies this truly dreadful act.”

A month earlier and more than 3,000 miles away, however, naturalized US citizen Dzhokhar Tsarnaev offered the same justification for massacreing fellow Americans at the Boston marathon with his older brother.

In a note on the boat he was hiding in as police closed in, he called the Boston victims “collateral damage” in a holy war against the West. He also scrawled: “When you attack one Muslim, you attack all Muslims.”

Like his British counterparts, President Obama refuses to see the religious connection. He called the War on Terror over, simply because we say so — without acknowledging that Muslim terrorists certainly don’t think so.

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Is it though?

While such violence is written off in official circles as a distortion of the tenets of Islam, it is in fact scripturally supported. And jihad in defense of Muslims and Islam is actually mainstream thinking inside the Muslim community, widely preached in mosques and Islamic literature across Britain and America. According to recent surveys, moreover, the vast majority of Muslim-Americans harbor a similarly deep resentment against the US-led war on terror and the military waging it.

“Jihad and martyrdom attacks have doctrinal threads that trace back from the crime scene to core Islamic texts,” FBI counterterrorism analyst Bill Gawthrop said. Virtually every homegrown terrorism case since 9/11 cites jihad as motivation.

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Why? Western leaders have not read Islamic texts for themselves, relying instead on Islamic clerics and apologists to tell them what they say about jihad and other sanctioned violence.

That’s a problem. After the London beheading, for instance, Muslim leaders insisted the Koran forbids killing. With typical duplicity, they cited a portion of a verse — “Whoever killed a human being . . . it shall be regarded as having killed all mankind” — while leaving out the critical part: “ . . . except as punishment for murder or other villainy in the land.”

Villainy is defined in the next verse as “those who wage war against Allah,” a crime punishable by — you guessed it — beheading.

An almost willful blindness to what motivates the enemy is preventing the West from effectively defeating it, says retired Army Maj. Stephen Coughlin, who has advised the Pentagon on Islamic military doctrine.

“It doesn’t matter if it’s right or wrong, as long as the enemy thinks it’s right,” he said. “If the enemy says he’s fighting in the name of green cheese, then we’ve got to know green cheese!”

According to the Koran and other sacred Islamic texts, physical fighting is obligatory on every able-bodied male when Muslim lands are invaded by kaffirs, or non-Muslims. This meaning is undisputed by the four major schools of Sunni jurisprudence.

Jihad is also a communal obligation that can be waged by all other Muslims through the pen, tongue or purse. A share of all Muslim tithing, in fact, is set aside for jihad, Gawthrop points out.

The word “jihad” is derived from the Arabic term for warriors — “mujahideen” — who in the Koran are promised a higher reward in the “gardens of Paradise” than “those who sit at home.” (The London beheader’s nickname was “Mujahid.”)

Obama asserted that “Muslims are a fundamental part of the American family.”

But polls show their loyalties are divided between this nation and the greater Muslim world or brotherhood, known as “the Ummah.” A 2011 Gallup poll said Muslims here “strongly identify” with the global Ummah, which includes Afghanistan and Iraq and all other Muslim lands and therefore transcends nationalism, patriotism and even secular friendships in importance.

The same poll found that 83% of Muslim-Americans disapprove of the war in Iraq and almost half say the US never should have sent troops into Afghanistan — even after 9/11.

An earlier survey by Pew, moreover, found that 1 in 4 young US Muslims think suicide bombings to defend Islam are justified.

More and more Muslims living among us are taking violent jihad seriously. To them, the war isn’t just in Afghanistan and Iraq. It’s right here, and the war zones include not just sporting events and city streets but shopping malls, amusement parks, even schools — all fair targets in their holy war.

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Politically taboo or not, it’s time America had a frank national discussion about the “holy” words that motivate such bloodlust, and what they actually mean to the Muslim community, because it’s clear these words can kill.

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168 Responses to “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad”
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  1. Speranza
    1 | May 26, 2013 12:15 pm

    I hate it when non Muslims claim that the jihadis are “hijacking the tenets of Islam”.


  2. 2 | May 26, 2013 12:15 pm

    Is it any wonder then why Sir Winston Churchill is one of my Heroes…he had the guts to call Mohammedanism for what it is: “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world!”


  3. Buffalobob
    3 | May 26, 2013 12:22 pm

    Never happen. Not As long as the nitwits with the coexist bumper stickers on their Volvos and the enlightened church groups bring hordes of so called political refugees to our communities.


  4. Speranza
    4 | May 26, 2013 12:34 pm

    Macker wrote:

    Is it any wonder then why Sir Winston Churchill is one of my Heroes…he had the guts to call Mohammedanism for what it is: “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world!”

    If he were around today would he adapt the “politically correct” mumbo jumbo language? We will never know but I would prefer to think he would not.


  5. pat
    5 | May 26, 2013 12:44 pm

    Obama lives in a delusional world where if he says it, it must be true. And anyone who disagrees with him or points out the truth must be destroyed.


  6. Speranza
    6 | May 26, 2013 12:50 pm

    pat wrote:

    Obama lives in a delusional world where if he says it, it must be true. And anyone who disagrees with him or points out the truth must be destroyed.

    A massive ego combined with historical ignorance is a dangerous thing in any one particularly a politician.


  7. Bumr50
    7 | May 26, 2013 1:14 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    A massive ego combined with historical ignorance is a dangerous thing in any one

    Uh-oh.

    You’ve just described much of the US population, yes?


  8. heysoos
    8 | May 26, 2013 1:20 pm

    I think the dude has some serious mental and emotional issues, that’s the danger…he’s liable to blow a circuit….declaring the war on terror over? after this week?….wtf is he thinking


  9. buzzsawmonkey
    10 | May 26, 2013 1:37 pm

    re-post:

    Drummer Lee Rigby
    —apologies to the Beatles and “Eleanor Rigby“

    Ah, look at all the British people
    Ah, look at all the British people

    Drummer Lee Rigby
    Joined the Fusiliers and he became an infantryman
    In Afghanistan
    Returned from duty, and was redeployed for service in London town
    Where he was cut down

    All the British people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the British people
    How will they get along?

    Anjem Choudary
    Preaching jihad ‘gainst his neighbors on the public’s dime
    All of the time
    Look at him speaking, inciting people to kill in the name of his god
    Isn’t that odd?

    All the British people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the British people
    How will they get along?

    Ah, look at all the British people
    Ah, look at all the British people

    Drummer Lee Rigby
    Cut down in the street by converts that Choudary inflamed
    A bloody shame
    Anjem Choudary
    Claimed by the Koran Rigby’s murder could be justified
    Look how he died

    All the British people (Ah, look at all the British people)
    Where do they all come from?
    All the British people (Ah, look at all the British people)
    How will they get along?


  10. 11 | May 26, 2013 1:37 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    I think the dude has some serious mental and emotional issues, that’s the danger…he’s liable to blow a circuit….declaring the war on terror over? after this week?….wtf is he thinking

    He’s thinking “I can buttfuck Reggie Love live on National TV and it won’t hurt me because I am the first BLACK President!”


  11. 12 | May 26, 2013 1:40 pm

    @ lobo91:

    I guess the liberal effeminates have nothing better to do!


  12. lobo91
    13 | May 26, 2013 2:01 pm

    Obama’s visiting Moore, OK. It must really irritate him having to stand there next to all those white Republican local officials.


  13. 14 | May 26, 2013 2:09 pm

    @ lobo91:

    Plenty of black Republicans in the OKC metro area, too. I bet they’re even more irritating.

    FULL DISCLOSURE -- 10 years living in OKC here.


  14. RIX
    15 | May 26, 2013 2:14 pm

    “Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or ‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children,” Brennan said.

    This was John Brennan, the current Director of the CIA speaking
    in May of 2010.
    Brennan studied Middle Eastern cultures at Fordham and has
    spent most of his life in foreign affairs.
    He doesn’t know anything about the over 160 Koranic passages
    urging violent Jihad?
    He doesn’t know the history of violent Jihad?
    He thinks screaming Allah Akbar while slaughtering people
    means nothing?


  15. RIX
    16 | May 26, 2013 2:17 pm

    Mike C. wrote:

    @ lobo91:

    Plenty of black Republicans in the OKC metro area, too. I bet they’re even more irritating.

    FULL DISCLOSURE — 10 years living in OKC here.

    Nothing more treasonous to BHO than a Black Republican.


  16. buzzsawmonkey
    17 | May 26, 2013 2:23 pm

    RIX wrote:

    This was John Brennan, the current Director of the CIA speaking
    in May of 2010.
    Brennan studied Middle Eastern cultures at Fordham and has
    spent most of his life in foreign affairs.
    He doesn’t know anything about the over 160 Koranic passages
    urging violent Jihad?
    He doesn’t know the history of violent Jihad?
    He thinks screaming Allah Akbar while slaughtering people
    means nothing?

    He knows and understands all of these things. He also understands how to engage in taqiyya.


  17. RIX
    18 | May 26, 2013 2:27 pm

    DURBIN: I APPROVED IRS SCRUTINIZING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS, BUT I’M AGAINST TARGETING
    @ Breitbart

    I heard this Jackass say this on FNC this morning.
    He is my Senator & his first name is Richard, but
    he will always be a Dick to me.


  18. RIX
    19 | May 26, 2013 2:28 pm

    He knows and understands all of these things. He also understands how to engage in taqiyya.@ buzzsawmonkey:

    Precisely.


  19. RIX
    20 | May 26, 2013 2:40 pm

    Memorilal Day plans for swimming completely ruined by
    Global Warming. Way to cold to open the Park District Pool.


  20. RIX
    21 | May 26, 2013 2:42 pm

    Off to walk then hound. If anybody is throwing ribs on
    the grill, what time should I be there?


  21. Calo
    23 | May 26, 2013 2:46 pm

    @ heysoos:
    Why in the world would you leave a perfectly good, horizontal walking surface?

    Madness.


  22. heysoos
    24 | May 26, 2013 3:04 pm

    Calo wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Why in the world would you leave a perfectly good, horizontal walking surface?
    Madness.

    because it’s there, and damned high


  23. buzzsawmonkey
    25 | May 26, 2013 3:05 pm

    heysoos wrote:

    because it’s there, and damned high

    There’s a crackhead on my street that I avoid for that very reason.


  24. 26 | May 26, 2013 3:39 pm

    Bought 7 plants, planted 7 plants. Maybe the first time I ever planted everything the day I bought it.


  25. Bumr50
    27 | May 26, 2013 3:40 pm

    @ heysoos:

    Never had the urge to climb a huge mountain.

    I enjoy hiking, though.


  26. heysoos
    28 | May 26, 2013 3:46 pm

    Bumr50 wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Never had the urge to climb a huge mountain.
    I enjoy hiking, though.

    I’m just an old thrill rider…snow skiing and amusement parks


  27. RIX
    29 | May 26, 2013 3:52 pm

    Rupert Murdoch ✔ @rupertmurdoch

    Get real. Koran says(1) “whoever killed a human being…it shall be regarded as having killed all mankind…
    11:58 AM -- 26 May 2013

    Wait for his next tweet.


  28. 30 | May 26, 2013 3:53 pm

    @ RIX:

    Only muslims qualify as human beings…


  29. Bumr50
    31 | May 26, 2013 3:53 pm

    REPORT: CAMERON TO LAUNCH TASK FORCE TO STOP ISLAMIC RADICALIZATION

    Volunteers?

    Anyone?


  30. 32 | May 26, 2013 3:54 pm

    @ RIX:

    who was Murdoch telling to Get Real? ?selrahC


  31. RIX
    33 | May 26, 2013 3:55 pm

    Rupert Murdoch ✔ @rupertmurdoch

    Koran(2) “except as punishment for murder or other villainy” then defined as “those who wage war against Allah” punishable by beheading.
    12:02 PM -- 26 May 2013

    This is the part of the Koranic passage that apologists
    leave out.


  32. 34 | May 26, 2013 3:56 pm

    @ Mike C.:

    And since Muslims are the only real human beings, that makes all us Infidels RAAAAACIST. Got it.

    /////////////


  33. RIX
    35 | May 26, 2013 3:56 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ RIX:

    who was Murdoch telling to Get Real? ?selrahC

    I doubt that he knows that Charlie exists.
    If he does, he is trying to ignore him.


  34. yenta-fada
    36 | May 26, 2013 4:25 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    re-post:
    Drummer Lee Rigby
    —apologies to the Beatles and “Eleanor Rigby“
    Ah, look at all the British people
    Ah, look at all the British people
    Drummer Lee Rigby
    Joined the Fusiliers and he became an infantryman
    In Afghanistan
    Returned from duty, and was redeployed for service in London town
    Where he was cut down
    All the British people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the British people
    How will they get along?
    Anjem Choudary
    Preaching jihad ‘gainst his neighbors on the public’s dime
    All of the time
    Look at him speaking, inciting people to kill in the name of his god
    Isn’t that odd?
    All the British people
    Where do they all come from?
    All the British people
    How will they get along?
    Ah, look at all the British people
    Ah, look at all the British people
    Drummer Lee Rigby
    Cut down in the street by converts that Choudary inflamed
    A bloody shame
    Anjem Choudary
    Claimed by the Koran Rigby’s murder could be justified
    Look how he died
    All the British people (Ah, look at all the British people)
    Where do they all come from?
    All the British people (Ah, look at all the British people)
    How will they get along?

    This fits the rhythm, tone, and feeling of the original extremely well. It’s also more grim and true.


  35. yenta-fada
    37 | May 26, 2013 4:27 pm

    I heard the British Home Secretary on the BBC refer to ‘those who are at risk of being the victim of conversion by extremists’. Sympathy for the devil.
    It’s all about OIL and heroine and money.


  36. brookly red
    38 | May 26, 2013 4:29 pm

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.


  37. brookly red
    39 | May 26, 2013 4:31 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    I heard the British Home Secretary on the BBC refer to ‘those who are at risk of being the victim of conversion by extremists’. Sympathy for the devil.
    It’s all about OIL and heroine and money.

    If it was about oil, H, and money we could deal, but it’s all about power.


  38. yenta-fada
    40 | May 26, 2013 4:33 pm

    http://thecampofthesaints.org/2013/05/24/the-left-is-like-a-spoiled-rotten-brat/

    The article it links to flashed a big red ACCESS DENIED sign. Hate speech don’t ya know. /


  39. The Osprey
    41 | May 26, 2013 4:34 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.


  40. yenta-fada
    42 | May 26, 2013 4:35 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Sure, it’s about control, but they would happily extinguish the majority of humans on the planet to save ‘their’ environment. They don’t want to control us nearly as much as they’d like us to go away, but there’s too many of ‘us’.


  41. yenta-fada
    43 | May 26, 2013 4:35 pm

    @ The Osprey:

    Actually, now Madras is called Chennai. :-)


  42. The Osprey
    44 | May 26, 2013 4:40 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ The Osprey:

    Actually, now Madras is called Chennai.

    Colonialism! :lol:


  43. yenta-fada
  44. brookly red
    46 | May 26, 2013 4:41 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    sorry my wold view is clouded by Spanish, OK madrassa female… my point is he knows exactly what is going on, and pardon me if I can’t pronounce lying to infidels either… sounds like tequila :)


  45. brookly red
    47 | May 26, 2013 4:42 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Sure, it’s about control, but they would happily extinguish the majority of humans on the planet to save ‘their’ environment. They don’t want to control us nearly as much as they’d like us to go away, but there’s too many of ‘us’.

    huh, maybe we should make them go away?


  46. Da_Beerfreak
    48 | May 26, 2013 4:42 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”… :roll:


  47. brookly red
    50 | May 26, 2013 4:43 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”…

    Hillary? is that you?


  48. The Osprey
    51 | May 26, 2013 4:44 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”…

    Whatever, Hillary.


  49. brookly red
  50. yenta-fada
    53 | May 26, 2013 4:46 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    Sure, it’s about control, but they would happily extinguish the majority of humans on the planet to save ‘their’ environment. They don’t want to control us nearly as much as they’d like us to go away, but there’s too many of ‘us’.
    huh, maybe we should make them go away?

    That’s their biggest fear. China is smart because they know it, but I wouldn’t want to live there.


  51. The Osprey
    54 | May 26, 2013 4:47 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    Madras is also a type of cloth with a patterned texture and plaid coloring, used for summer shirts and blouses, which originated in that city.


  52. brookly red
    55 | May 26, 2013 4:48 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ brookly red:
    Sure, it’s about control, but they would happily extinguish the majority of humans on the planet to save ‘their’ environment. They don’t want to control us nearly as much as they’d like us to go away, but there’s too many of ‘us’.
    huh, maybe we should make them go away?

    That’s their biggest fear. China is smart because they know it, but I wouldn’t want to live there.

    well eventually it will all be China, it’s OK I play tai chi and love Hunan fried rice.


  53. yenta-fada
    56 | May 26, 2013 4:49 pm

    From ‘right wing news’

    Some officials are now declining to take calls from certain reporters, concerned that any contact may lead to investigation. Some complain of being taken from their offices to endure uncomfortable questioning. And the government officials typically must pay for lawyers themselves, unlike reporters for large news organizations whose companies provide legal representation.

    “What all this does is create a chill on media contact. Government employees will clam up even when there is no threat. And it will make the Press worried that The Government will come after them if they publish a story. This is intimidation. Let’s not forget how the Obama admin treats many reporters which are critical and publish unflattering stories. Sharyl Attkinson is the poster child for how the Obama admin abuses reporters. The O admin is saying “toe the line, do what we tell you, or we’re coming after you”, which may not violate the letter of the 1st Amendment, but surely violates the spirit.”


  54. brookly red
    57 | May 26, 2013 4:50 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    Madras is also a type of cloth with a patterned texture and plaid coloring, used for summer shirts and blouses, which originated in that city.

    you would be worthless in a street fight…


  55. The Osprey
    58 | May 26, 2013 4:55 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”…

    It makes a difference because, without trying to be overly pedantic or pompous about it, it reflects the dumbing down of American education with respect to world geography. I see people making that same Madras/madrassa error all over Conservative or Anti-Jihadist blogs (well, American ones at any rate) and it makes the person saying it, and by inference the Anti-Jihadist cause, look ignorant. :roll:


  56. Da_Beerfreak
    59 | May 26, 2013 4:55 pm

    It’s a big mistake to call islam a religion when it’s in fact a totalitarian political movement set on World domination and uses religion only as a ‘fig leaf’ to cover its lies. No different than calling AGW ‘science’… :evil:


  57. Da_Beerfreak
    60 | May 26, 2013 4:56 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    Whatever…


  58. brookly red
    61 | May 26, 2013 5:02 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    The Osprey wrote:

    brookly red wrote:

    sorry I came late but “Obama is in denial about what Muslims really believe about jihad” WTF?

    He was raised in a madras for Pete’s sake, he knows exactly what they think.

    Madras is a city in India. An Islamic school is a madrassa.

    “What difference, at this point, does it make?”…

    It makes a difference because, without trying to be overly pedantic or pompous about it, it reflects the dumbing down of American education with respect to world geography. I see people making that same Madras/madrassa error all over Conservative or Anti-Jihadist blogs (well, American ones at any rate) and it makes the person saying it, and by inference the Anti-Jihadist cause, look ignorant.

    you are correct, my bad, you are not overly pedantic or pompous but I am just a simple man but I say Anti-Jihadist by nature can not be ignorant, it is based on the simplest of truths… which brings me back to the fact that Zero is a trained muslim raised in a madrassa (are you happy now) and that is what it is.


  59. yenta-fada
    62 | May 26, 2013 5:03 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    Whatever…

    You are in a ‘whatever’ frame of mind at the moment. :-)
    Have a brewski.


  60. yenta-fada
    63 | May 26, 2013 5:06 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Anybody who used Ozero’s middle name during the first election campaign was called ‘racist’. It’s his NAME (as far as we know)
    You can’t call a Hussein a Hussein without the left screeching at you.
    Thought crime next up. /


  61. Calo
    64 | May 26, 2013 5:07 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    We all seem to have our special point of views on this blog.

    For the most part, mine is not a political one.
    Just observing and learning.


  62. Da_Beerfreak
    65 | May 26, 2013 5:09 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    Whatever…

    You are in a ‘whatever’ frame of mind at the moment.
    Have a brewski.

    I’m making supper at the moment and a brewski does sound like a good idea. As to looking ignorant to my enemies, I’m fine with that. It’s their problem if they underestimate me, not mine. :evil:


  63. The Osprey
    66 | May 26, 2013 5:12 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    which brings me back to the fact that Zero is a trained muslim raised in a madrassa (are you happy now) and that is what it is.

    I can’t argue with you there!

    Naw, wait a minute…Obama’s a Christian! George Stiffenipplous told us so! :lol:


  64. yenta-fada
    67 | May 26, 2013 5:12 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    You don’t have enemies here. You want to feel really aggravated, watch the MSM. lol


  65. brookly red
    68 | May 26, 2013 5:13 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    Anybody who used Ozero’s middle name during the first election campaign was called ‘racist’. It’s his NAME (as far as we know)
    You can’t call a Hussein a Hussein without the left screeching at you.
    Thought crime next up. /

    well you can’t call a homosexual pedophile a pervert any more than you than you can call a tax cheat a criminal, or an abortionist a killer…when the SHTF semantics fall to fire power ever time.


  66. yenta-fada
    69 | May 26, 2013 5:14 pm

    @ Calo:

    Long time no see! Hope you’re having a good weekend.


  67. The Osprey
    70 | May 26, 2013 5:15 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    As to looking ignorant to my enemies, I’m fine with that. It’s their problem if they underestimate me, not mine.

    It’s not us looking ignorant to our enemies that I am concerned about, but those who for whatever reason at this late date, still have not made up their minds on where they stand with regard to the “Clash of Civilizations”.


  68. yenta-fada
    71 | May 26, 2013 5:16 pm

    I actually went out of the house last night and saw a HUGE full moon.
    That explains a lot.
    I just don’t know about next week though…


  69. yenta-fada
    72 | May 26, 2013 5:19 pm

    The Osprey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    As to looking ignorant to my enemies, I’m fine with that. It’s their problem if they underestimate me, not mine.
    It’s not us looking ignorant to our enemies that I am concerned about, but those who for whatever reason at this late date, still have not made up their minds on where they stand with regard to the “Clash of Civilizations”.

    My friends are mostly liberal and well educated. They won’t listen to me talk about Islam. They won’t listen to me about the financial system either. I live in a “cone of silence”. /
    That’s why the internet is so dangerous to the powers that be.


  70. Da_Beerfreak
    73 | May 26, 2013 5:20 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    You don’t have enemies here. You want to feel really aggravated, watch the MSM. lol

    I’m referring to the greater external threat when I refer to our enemies. On the plus side I haven’t watched TV for the last twenty years. I have one old analog TV that has my DVD player plugged into it, but why watch a 15″ TV when I can watch a DVD on the 23″ computer monitor.


  71. Da_Beerfreak
    74 | May 26, 2013 5:24 pm

    @ The Osprey:
    @ yenta-fada:
    Those Folks will come around to our way of thinking sooner or later if they want to survive the coming Clash.


  72. yenta-fada
    75 | May 26, 2013 5:27 pm

    Oops. Model moderate Muslim finds her DNA. h/t blazingcatfur.

    http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.ca/2013/05/germans-star-moderate-muslim-who.html


  73. yenta-fada
    76 | May 26, 2013 5:30 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    @ The Osprey:
    @ yenta-fada:
    Those Folks will come around to our way of thinking sooner or later if they want to survive the coming Clash.

    I think they will stay in denial and blame themselves. I certainly hope that you are right. The local new mosque + cultural center is the size of a village. not kidding.


  74. lobo91
    77 | May 26, 2013 5:33 pm

    MSNBC Far-Left Loon Melissa Harris-Perry Likens Terrorist Gitmo Detainees To American Slaves…

    “I also appreciate that the hunger strikers are not trying to die, they’re trying to generate autonomy in the context of something that strips their humanity — something we certainly know about from the experience of American slavery, and that the language of ‘before I be a slave, I’d be buried in my grave and go home to my Lord and be free’ — just that idea of creating human freedom within the context of horrible human conditions.”

    Unless she’s much older than she looks, I have to wonder what she knows about “the experience of American slavery.”


  75. yenta-fada
    78 | May 26, 2013 5:34 pm

    Never before seen early pic of Prez empty chair.

    https://securecdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/501/4177/original.jpg


  76. brookly red
    79 | May 26, 2013 5:34 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Oops. Model moderate Muslim finds her DNA. h/t blazingcatfur.

    http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.ca/2013/05/germans-star-moderate-muslim-who.html

    German’s Star Moderate Muslim Who Pioneered Islamic Tuition in German Schools Finds that Five of Her Former Pupils Went Off to Fight Jihad in Syria… excellent! they left Germany and chances are they will die in Syria, where is the down side?


  77. yenta-fada
    80 | May 26, 2013 5:36 pm

    @ lobo91:

    The local chapter of The Simon Weisenthal Center’s “Spirit of Hope” fancy dinner has Condoleeza Rice as keynote speaker. You know, the one who compares the plight of the Palestinians to American slavery.

    *triple face palm*


  78. Da_Beerfreak
    81 | May 26, 2013 5:37 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    MSNBC Far-Left Loon Melissa Harris-Perry Likens Terrorist Gitmo Detainees To American Slaves…

    “I also appreciate that the hunger strikers are not trying to die, they’re trying to generate autonomy in the context of something that strips their humanity — something we certainly know about from the experience of American slavery, and that the language of ‘before I be a slave, I’d be buried in my grave and go home to my Lord and be free’ — just that idea of creating human freedom within the context of horrible human conditions.”

    Unless she’s much older than she looks, I have to wonder what she knows about “the experience of American slavery.”

    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.


  79. lobo91
    82 | May 26, 2013 5:38 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ lobo91:
    The local chapter of The Simon Weisenthal Center’s “Spirit of Hope” fancy dinner has Condoleeza Rice as keynote speaker. You know, the one who compares the plight of the Palestinians to American slavery.
    *triple face palm*

    That manages to insult both Palestinians and slaves, which takes some doing.


  80. lobo91
    83 | May 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.

    At least half of high school graduates couldn’t tell you in what decade the Civil War took place.


  81. brookly red
    84 | May 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    MSNBC Far-Left Loon Melissa Harris-Perry Likens Terrorist Gitmo Detainees To American Slaves…

    “I also appreciate that the hunger strikers are not trying to die, they’re trying to generate autonomy in the context of something that strips their humanity — something we certainly know about from the experience of American slavery, and that the language of ‘before I be a slave, I’d be buried in my grave and go home to my Lord and be free’ — just that idea of creating human freedom within the context of horrible human conditions.”

    Unless she’s much older than she looks, I have to wonder what she knows about “the experience of American slavery.”

    Fuck her Tehran-Rose there humanity was stripped when they became terrorists, if it was there in the first place… we should re-pay blood with more blood, as much as is needed to stop them.


  82. yenta-fada
    85 | May 26, 2013 5:40 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    Oops. Model moderate Muslim finds her DNA. h/t blazingcatfur.
    http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.ca/2013/05/germans-star-moderate-muslim-who.html
    German’s Star Moderate Muslim Who Pioneered Islamic Tuition in German Schools Finds that Five of Her Former Pupils Went Off to Fight Jihad in Syria… excellent! they left Germany and chances are they will die in Syria, where is the down side?

    That more of them aren’t going? I saw a bit on an Israeli Druze village last night where they have sent money and plan to join the Druze in Syria fighting for Assad. How can you have a clash of civilizations when there’s only one side that is actually civilized?


  83. yenta-fada
    86 | May 26, 2013 5:42 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    @ lobo91:
    The local chapter of The Simon Weisenthal Center’s “Spirit of Hope” fancy dinner has Condoleeza Rice as keynote speaker. You know, the one who compares the plight of the Palestinians to American slavery.
    *triple face palm*
    That manages to insult both Palestinians and slaves, which takes some doing.

    The fact that a group of well intentioned Jews are hosting it says something about us being soooo smart.


  84. yenta-fada
    87 | May 26, 2013 5:43 pm

    @ brookly red:

    Tehran Rose. heh.


  85. Da_Beerfreak
    88 | May 26, 2013 5:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.

    At least half of high school graduates couldn’t tell you in what decade the Civil War took place.

    It would surprise me if more than half could name the right century. :roll:


  86. brookly red
    89 | May 26, 2013 5:45 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.

    At least half of high school graduates couldn’t tell you in what decade the Civil War took place.

    i diciotto sixtys


  87. 90 | May 26, 2013 5:46 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I believe we should repay blood with radioactivity.


  88. 91 | May 26, 2013 5:47 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    @ brookly red:

    Those jerks would believe it took place in the Nineteen sixties.


  89. yenta-fada
    92 | May 26, 2013 5:51 pm

    From ‘the colossus of Rhodey’ They are completely messing with Star Trek’s original theme.

    New “Scotty” spouts off on the new Trek’s politics

    Just like the villain of the new Trek stated last week, new “Scotty,” Simon Pegg, had this to say about the film’s theme:

    “In the face of overwhelming militaristic might, you can argue John Harrison is in fact kind of a strange dichotomy between freedom fighter and terrorist, and the militarized Starfleet is slightly more the heavy handed aspects of American foreign policy,” Pegg says. Admiral Marcus (played by Peter Weller) has weaponized the Enterprise because he thinks war with the Klingons is inevitable, and Pegg believes there’s an argument to be made for his view. But, he adds, “There is always diplomacy, and there is always an alternative to violence….”
    There is a parallel with the terrorist activities of Osama bin Laden and the decision to attack Iraq. Iraq had nothing proven to do with 9/11, and yet [President] Bush used that as an excuse to start a war with those people. You can always see the Klingons as like Iraq and John Harrison the proxy for Osama bin Laden.”

    Admiral Marcus certainly seems like a stand-in for former Vice President Cheney. “Absolutely,” Pegg laughs. “He’s definitely a Republican.”

    Wow. How “brave.” Hell, why not make it a Vietnam War parable, then? Y’know, an internal struggle between two factions of Vietnamese which had nothing to do with the US, yet [Democrat] Lyndon Johnson staged a military incident to thereby allow the US to get involved …

    It’s become quite tiresome to point out the stupidity of these comparisons, especially given Trek lore and canon.


  90. Da_Beerfreak
    93 | May 26, 2013 5:51 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Da_Beerfreak:
    @ brookly red:

    Those jerks would believe it took place in the Nineteen sixties.

    Payback for the Confederacy’s bombing of Pearl Harbor… :wink:


  91. 94 | May 26, 2013 5:51 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    How can you have a clash of civilizations when there’s only one side that is actually civilized?

    Even the Barbarians who sacked Rome believed themselves to be civilized enough to rape, pillage and plunder.


  92. buzzsawmonkey
    95 | May 26, 2013 5:52 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.

    Some brain-dead Leftist Congresscreature from the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn expressed that belief in a video about four months ago. I forget her name.


  93. 96 | May 26, 2013 5:54 pm

    @ Da_Beerfreak:

    WRONG!


  94. buzzsawmonkey
    97 | May 26, 2013 5:55 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    MSNBC Far-Left Loon Melissa Harris-Perry Likens Terrorist Gitmo Detainees To American Slaves…

    If you listen to the video, you will notice that she starts out by talking about “bad American decisions”—and her example is the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Apparently she thinks that another year of war and a million additional casualties on each side was a better idea.


  95. lobo91
    98 | May 26, 2013 6:00 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    On this Memorial Day weekend, I dare her to suggest that to a WWII veteran.


  96. Da_Beerfreak
    99 | May 26, 2013 6:02 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    MSNBC Far-Left Loon Melissa Harris-Perry Likens Terrorist Gitmo Detainees To American Slaves…

    If you listen to the video, you will notice that she starts out by talking about “bad American decisions”—and her example is the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Apparently she thinks that another year of war and a million additional casualties on each side was a better idea.

    Many years ago a neighbor was a young Marine training for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. He was very glad that Truman used the A-bomb instead of him and his buddies to end WWII.


  97. Speranza
    100 | May 26, 2013 6:05 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Many years ago a neighbor was a young Marine training for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. He was very glad that Truman used the A-bomb instead of him and his buddies to end WWII.

    At the time just about every one (including my father) was glad to hear about it. All this revisionism is bull shit.


  98. buzzsawmonkey
    101 | May 26, 2013 6:07 pm

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Many years ago a neighbor was a young Marine training for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. He was very glad that Truman used the A-bomb instead of him and his buddies to end WWII.

    My father used to get approached by moonbats when they learned he’d worked on the Project. They’d always ask him, “Do you have any regrets at having done so?” He always replied, “Yes. I regret we did not get the bomb done in time to drop in on Germany.” That always shut ‘em up fast.

    I have encountered people even my own age who believe that we didn’t drop the bomb on Germany because “the government was racist.” They are wholly unaware that the first successful test did not occur until after Germany had surrendered.


  99. lobo91
    102 | May 26, 2013 6:09 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:

    I have encountered people even my own age who believe that we didn’t drop the bomb on Germany because “the government was racist.” They are wholly unaware that the first successful test did not occur until after Germany had surrendered.

    Yes, dropping an atomic bomb on a country that had already surrendered would have been considered poor form.


  100. buzzsawmonkey
    103 | May 26, 2013 6:09 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    At the time just about every one (including my father) was glad to hear about it. All this revisionism is bull shit.

    I strongly recommend that people who have not done so read Paul Fussell’s book Thank God for the Atom Bomb.


  101. yenta-fada
    104 | May 26, 2013 6:11 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.
    Some brain-dead Leftist Congresscreature from the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn expressed that belief in a video about four months ago. I forget her name.

    Is it this lady? She is certainly busy!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_B._Maloney


  102. buzzsawmonkey
    105 | May 26, 2013 6:12 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Is it this lady? She is certainly busy!

    No, it was a black woman, not Carolyn Maloney.


  103. buzzsawmonkey
    106 | May 26, 2013 6:14 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    BTW, thanks for your kind words upthread regarding “Drummer Lee Rigby.”


  104. brookly red
    107 | May 26, 2013 6:14 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Da_Beerfreak wrote:

    Many years ago a neighbor was a young Marine training for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. He was very glad that Truman used the A-bomb instead of him and his buddies to end WWII.

    My father used to get approached by moonbats when they learned he’d worked on the Project. They’d always ask him, “Do you have any regrets at having done so?” He always replied, “Yes. I regret we did not get the bomb done in time to drop in on Germany.” That always shut ‘em up fast.

    I have encountered people even my own age who believe that we didn’t drop the bomb on Germany because “the government was racist.” They are wholly unaware that the first successful test did not occur until after Germany had surrendered.

    one more reason we need to purge communists especially from the school system


  105. RIX
    108 | May 26, 2013 6:16 pm

    I have encountered people even my own age who believe that we didn’t drop the bomb on Germany because “the government was racist.” They are wholly unaware that the first successful test did not occur until after Germany had surrendered.@ buzzsawmonkey:

    We should have nuked em anyway, after what they
    did at Pearl Harbor!
    Oh wait, never mind.


  106. yenta-fada
    109 | May 26, 2013 6:16 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    BTW, thanks for your kind words upthread regarding “Drummer Lee Rigby.”

    It was exceptional. You’re most welcome.


  107. brookly red
    110 | May 26, 2013 6:19 pm

    RIX wrote:

    I have encountered people even my own age who believe that we didn’t drop the bomb on Germany because “the government was racist.” They are wholly unaware that the first successful test did not occur until after Germany had surrendered.@ buzzsawmonkey:

    We should have nuked em anyway, after what they
    did at Pearl Harbor!
    Oh wait, never mind.

    No, what we should have done was look ahead 1 or 2 generations and flattened the ME… but that is water under the bridge now.


  108. Speranza
    111 | May 26, 2013 6:19 pm

    FYI -- at 8:00 PM ET we have a good OOT music thread.


  109. RIX
    112 | May 26, 2013 6:20 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Is it this lady? She is certainly busy!

    No, it was a black woman, not Carolyn Maloney.

    It was that intellectual, Sheila Jackson Lee.


  110. Speranza
    113 | May 26, 2013 6:20 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:
    Da_Beerfreak wrote:
    It would not surprise me if some LIV think slavery lasted into the 1960′s.
    Some brain-dead Leftist Congresscreature from the Bedford-Stuyvesant area of Brooklyn expressed that belief in a video about four months ago. I forget her name.

    Is it this lady? She is certainly busy!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_B._Maloney

    That’s my congresscritter!


  111. RIX
    114 | May 26, 2013 6:21 pm

    No, what we should have done was look ahead 1 or 2 generations and flattened the ME… but that is water under the bridge now.
    @ brookly red:
    Nobody anticipated it.


  112. brookly red
    115 | May 26, 2013 6:22 pm

    Macker wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:

    How can you have a clash of civilizations when there’s only one side that is actually civilized?

    Even the Barbarians who sacked Rome believed themselves to be civilized enough to rape, pillage and plunder.

    huh? what? nothing… why do you ask?


  113. brookly red
    116 | May 26, 2013 6:23 pm

    RIX wrote:

    No, what we should have done was look ahead 1 or 2 generations and flattened the ME… but that is water under the bridge now.
    @ brookly red:
    Nobody anticipated it.

    what they had no bibles?


  114. 117 | May 26, 2013 6:25 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    A black woman? She remembers being a slave? How curious…


  115. Buckeye Abroad
    118 | May 26, 2013 6:25 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    I hate it when non Muslims claim that the jihadis are “hijacking the tenets of Islam”.

    It helps insulate their fear and maintain the denial. It’s easier to keep blaming the usual suspects for all the worlds woes… Jews, westerners, white people, etc..


  116. Speranza
    119 | May 26, 2013 6:28 pm

    The Left is scared shit-less of the Muslims.


  117. eaglesoars
    120 | May 26, 2013 6:29 pm

    How the HELL Paul Sperry can give Obama the benefit of the doubt by attributing this to naivite is beyond me. The man literally wrote the book “Infiltration”.

    Obama is not naive, the SOB is complicit. Period.

    Hey lobo91

    Finished Empire’s Corps, gave Nuttall a great amazon review, downloaded the rest of the series, have started No Worse Enemy and left a comment on his blog. He wanted to know what blog I had got the recommendation from, so I pointed him here and noted your nic.


  118. brookly red
    121 | May 26, 2013 6:29 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    The Left is scared shit-less of the Muslims.

    Bull shit, the left is in bed with muslims


  119. Buckeye Abroad
    122 | May 26, 2013 6:30 pm

    @ heysoos:

    I’m just an old thrill rider…snow skiing and amusement parks

    Enjoy it while your heart and knees will allow you.


  120. buzzsawmonkey
    123 | May 26, 2013 6:30 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    A black woman? She remembers being a slave? How curious…

    No, it was a black Congresswoman—or maybe, possibly, a Bed-Stuy councilwoman who was looking to run for Congress—who was being interviewed and who was talking about some elements of “slavery” that she claimed still existed in the Sixties. Despite what RIX says upthread, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t Jackson-Lee; it was someone from in or around the Bed-Stuy area in NYC.

    I suppose I should have saved the video, but who has space for all the bookmarks for Leftist stupidity?


  121. Buckeye Abroad
    125 | May 26, 2013 6:31 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    The Left is scared shit-less of the Muslims.

    Don’t know about that. They are scared of all those people in flyover country with guns though.


  122. RIX
    126 | May 26, 2013 6:33 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    No, what we should have done was look ahead 1 or 2 generations and flattened the ME… but that is water under the bridge now.
    @ brookly red:
    Nobody anticipated it.

    what they had no bibles?

    They were not thinking that way.
    They didn’t even want to recognize the emerging
    Russian threat.


  123. 127 | May 26, 2013 6:38 pm

    @ buzzsawmonkey:
    This is truly stupidity on parade. I am assuming that she is of an age to actually remember the 1960s, and the fact that she wasn’t a slave in the 1960s. That anyone with even a rudimentary public school education, bad as that is, could think this is beyond me. This is willful stupidity. She’d like to believe it, therefore she asserts it as truth. She is to o stupid to think about what if someone fact-checks her.


  124. lobo91
    128 | May 26, 2013 6:39 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Glad you liked it.


  125. Speranza
    129 | May 26, 2013 6:39 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    The Left is scared shit-less of the Muslims.
    Don’t know about that. They are scared of all those people in flyover country with guns though.

    flyovercountry voted mainly for Obama -- checkout the Midwest presidential voting pattern. The Left knows that the Muslims do not turn the other cheek. The Lefty is trying to co-opt Muslims.


  126. 130 | May 26, 2013 6:41 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    That isn’t much different than the pictures of Treyvon Martin that theyve found on his cell phone. Whether that’ll affect the trial is open to question, but it is vailable.


  127. RIX
    131 | May 26, 2013 6:46 pm

    Sheila Jackson Lee Thinks Slavery Ended in the 1960s
    February 13, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield Comments (43)@ buzzsawmonkey:

    She made a speech in the House saying , “I stand before you as
    a freed slave” She went on to confuse the 1860′s with the 1960′s.
    Could have been another Congresswoman as well though.


  128. lobo91
    132 | May 26, 2013 6:48 pm

    @ RIX:

    Whoopi Goldberg said something last fall about being afraid of being “put back in chains” if Republicans won.


  129. yenta-fada
    133 | May 26, 2013 6:49 pm

    Y’all gotta watch this. Dedicated to Chuck the Corpulent Blogger:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8ty_y3nP9Us


  130. eaglesoars
    134 | May 26, 2013 6:50 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Could have been another Congresswoman as well though

    That was Sheila Jackson Lee. The dumbest person on the Hill since Cynthia McKinney left.


  131. RIX
    135 | May 26, 2013 6:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Whoopi Goldberg said something last fall about being afraid of being “put back in chains” if Republicans won.

    I recall that. Cameron Diaz told Oprah that George W Bush was
    going to legalize rape.
    Oprah damn near choked.


  132. 136 | May 26, 2013 6:54 pm

    Unfortunately, I believe the premise to be off of the mark, completely. In my opinion, Barack Obama knows exactly what’s up with the Religion of Peace. He lies to us so as to make us believe that he is exactly as naive as the others mentioned in the article, but he is also an insider in that sick death cult called Islam. He knows exactly the dangers for American embedded within, and has treated the Democrat Party as the useful idiots that they are.


  133. RIX
    137 | May 26, 2013 6:54 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Could have been another Congresswoman as well though

    That was Sheila Jackson Lee. The dumbest person on the Hill since Cynthia McKinney left.

    Right on! She thinks that the astronauts planted the
    flag on Mars. Seriously.


  134. eaglesoars
    138 | May 26, 2013 6:57 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Right on! She thinks that the astronauts planted the
    flag on Mars. Seriously.

    I remember that. Come to think of it, maybe she’s not the dumbest. Maybe it’s that Johnson guy (D -- Guam will tip over)


  135. eaglesoars
    139 | May 26, 2013 7:00 pm

    Flyovercountry wrote:

    He lies to us so as to make us believe that he is exactly as naive as the others mentioned in the article,

    Yep. That’s why I’m deeply suspicious of his “Stop me before I kill again” drone remarks. Anything bad happens, well, Zero was on the golf course and didn’t know anything about it until he read it in the papers like everybody else.

    Not. Buying. It.


  136. lobo91
    140 | May 26, 2013 7:02 pm

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yep. That’s why I’m deeply suspicious of his “Stop me before I kill again” drone remarks.

    Reminds me of his “we need a media shield law to keep us from spying on the media” bit from the other day.


  137. RIX
    141 | May 26, 2013 7:03 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Right on! She thinks that the astronauts planted the
    flag on Mars. Seriously.

    I remember that. Come to think of it, maybe she’s not the dumbest. Maybe it’s that Johnson guy (D — Guam will tip over)

    It’s competitive, Toss in Pelosi & you’re hitting
    for the cycle.


  138. RIX
    143 | May 26, 2013 7:04 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yep. That’s why I’m deeply suspicious of his “Stop me before I kill again” drone remarks.

    Reminds me of his “we need a media shield law to keep us from spying on the media” bit from the other day.

    But he’s serious about it, having Holder investigate Holder.


  139. Buckeye Abroad
    144 | May 26, 2013 7:04 pm

    @ Speranza:

    flyovercountry voted mainly for Obama — checkout the Midwest presidential voting pattern.

    Umm. You mean the urban areas that pulled him. Yeah. And if 400k voted the other way in 4 states, it would be a different story. They have sold over 54,000 guns a day since his first election. Check out where they are being sold.


  140. buzzsawmonkey
    145 | May 26, 2013 7:04 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    Chuck the Corpulent Blogger:

    Chuck the Corpulent Blogger lived in his chair
    And from he sent out his angry Tweets to everywhere
    His small knot of bloggers loved him fervently
    And avidly they brought him tales of right wing perfidy…


  141. RIX
    146 | May 26, 2013 7:07 pm

    Time to toss some dead animal on the grill.
    See ya later.


  142. yenta-fada
    147 | May 26, 2013 7:09 pm

    RIX wrote:

    eaglesoars wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    Right on! She thinks that the astronauts planted the
    flag on Mars. Seriously.
    I remember that. Come to think of it, maybe she’s not the dumbest. Maybe it’s that Johnson guy (D — Guam will tip over)
    It’s competitive, Toss in Pelosi & you’re hitting
    for the cycle.

    Nuh uh. My fave is former Rep from Detroit, the disgraced mother of the disgraced ex-mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick.

    http://blackamericaweb.com/120256/ex-rep-and-mother-of-kwame-kilpatrick-presides-over-alien-ufo-hearings/comment-page-1/


  143. eaglesoars
    148 | May 26, 2013 7:14 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    @ eaglesoars:
    @ lobo91:
    http://lh4.ggpht.com/-vWPCTEjnPbk/UaDOiT9OkGI/AAAAAAAA4eI/DxXns3i6dNw/s1600-h/obamainchargeofeverythingresponsiblefornothig%25255B3%25255D.jpg

    Somewhere yesterday I saw a blurb. The Enquirer (trash tabloid checkout line newspaper) reported that Hillary’s book is going to say she is bi-sexual. Because it’s cool and it would get her the LGBT vote. I guess being a woman these days is no longer a ticket to victimhood and she can’t pull an Elizabeth Warren and claim to be a minority race so………..


  144. Speranza
    149 | May 26, 2013 7:16 pm

    brookly red wrote:

    Speranza wrote:

    The Left is scared shit-less of the Muslims.

    Bull shit, the left is in bed with muslims

    Bull shit my ass -- they know that the Muslims kill without hesitation or conscience.


  145. eaglesoars
    150 | May 26, 2013 7:18 pm

    yenta-fada wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    eaglesoars wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    Right on! She thinks that the astronauts planted the
    flag on Mars. Seriously.
    I remember that. Come to think of it, maybe she’s not the dumbest. Maybe it’s that Johnson guy (D — Guam will tip over)
    It’s competitive, Toss in Pelosi & you’re hitting
    for the cycle.
    Nuh uh. My fave is former Rep from Detroit, the disgraced mother of the disgraced ex-mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick.
    http://blackamericaweb.com/120256/ex-rep-and-mother-of-kwame-kilpatrick-presides-over-alien-ufo-hearings/comment-page-1/

    That’s not dumb. That’s just corrupt. $20k worth of corrupt.

    (Where the hell do you find this stuff?)


  146. Speranza
    151 | May 26, 2013 7:19 pm

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    flyovercountry voted mainly for Obama — checkout the Midwest presidential voting pattern.
    Umm. You mean the urban areas that pulled him. Yeah. And if 400k voted the other way in 4 states, it would be a different story. They have sold over 54,000 guns a day since his first election. Check out where they are being sold.

    Hey did he win Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa -- yes or no? Stop trying to parse it. Obama won and we lost -- end of story. Ever since November a lot of people on the right wing blogs have been in complete denial. I am still seeking those 3 -5 million Evangelical voters who according to Rush Limbaugh sat it out.


  147. 152 | May 26, 2013 7:22 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The left are the Mohammedans’ Catamites!


  148. 153 | May 26, 2013 7:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    I have to wonder what she knows about “the experience of American slavery.”

    Oral tradition. Just because she didn’t experience it herself doesn’t mean she didn’t keep hearing about it all her life. One analogy might be the Irish remembering the roughly-contemporaneous Famine.

    Now, how she’s using this experience, that much is different.


  149. Buckeye Abroad
    154 | May 26, 2013 7:23 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Buckeye Abroad wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    flyovercountry voted mainly for Obama — checkout the Midwest presidential voting pattern.
    Umm. You mean the urban areas that pulled him. Yeah. And if 400k voted the other way in 4 states, it would be a different story. They have sold over 54,000 guns a day since his first election. Check out where they are being sold.

    Hey did he win Ohio, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa — yes or no? Stop trying to parse it. Obama won and we lost — end of story.

    Again, the urban shit holes and fraud won him the election. So what. I thought you were talking about what the left fears--what does your rant about the past election have to do with gun owners in fly over country?


  150. yenta-fada
    155 | May 26, 2013 7:27 pm

    eaglesoars wrote:

    yenta-fada wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    eaglesoars wrote:
    RIX wrote:
    Right on! She thinks that the astronauts planted the
    flag on Mars. Seriously.
    I remember that. Come to think of it, maybe she’s not the dumbest. Maybe it’s that Johnson guy (D — Guam will tip over)
    It’s competitive, Toss in Pelosi & you’re hitting
    for the cycle.
    Nuh uh. My fave is former Rep from Detroit, the disgraced mother of the disgraced ex-mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick.
    http://blackamericaweb.com/120256/ex-rep-and-mother-of-kwame-kilpatrick-presides-over-alien-ufo-hearings/comment-page-1/
    That’s not dumb. That’s just corrupt. $20k worth of corrupt.
    (Where the hell do you find this stuff?)

    Actually I was looking for an old youtube of her raving at a fund raiser or something like it. She’s so unhinged that the UFO stuff was just a bonus.


  151. The Osprey
    156 | May 26, 2013 7:28 pm

    Macker wrote:

    @ Speranza:

    The left are the Mohammedans’ Catamites!

    My cat had catamites, so I took her to the vet. :lol:


  152. lobo91
    157 | May 26, 2013 7:29 pm

    Poll: By Massive 22-Point Margin, Voters Favor Repealing Obamacare…

    Who knew there were so many raaaaacist Fox News viewers out there?
    //


  153. yenta-fada
    158 | May 26, 2013 7:30 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    brookly red wrote:
    Speranza wrote:
    The Left is scared shit-less of the Muslims.
    Bull shit, the left is in bed with muslims
    Bull shit my ass — they know that the Muslims kill without hesitation or conscience.

    Take a look at the quotes I posted of the new Star Trek. The left really believes that, if not for the violence of Americans, you should just REASON with your enemies. Shazam! We’ll all be friends. /


  154. 159 | May 26, 2013 7:32 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    Bull shit my ass — they know that the Muslims kill without hesitation or conscience.

    The transnational caste commonly called “liberal” (the SWPL bunch) mainly treat Muslims as another “oppressed minority” which they can use as a status marker (“COEXIST”). Leftists are different; they are opportunists who treat Muslims as a means to weaken society. I live in the Boulder valley with the former.

    Fear of Muslims would only affect the former, and this indirectly. The SWPL liberals mainly fear loss of status, which will happen if they accidentally anger a Muslim.

    Those who actually fear Islamic violence are nonpoliticals who live near too many Muslims, or cowards like Richard Dawkins (although Dawkins has been wising up lately, based on his twitter).


  155. yenta-fada
    160 | May 26, 2013 7:34 pm

    Zimriel wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:
    I have to wonder what she knows about “the experience of American slavery.”
    Oral tradition. Just because she didn’t experience it herself doesn’t mean she didn’t keep hearing about it all her life. One analogy might be the Irish remembering the roughly-contemporaneous Famine.
    Now, how she’s using this experience, that much is different.

    Actually, if you look at the articles from “Black America Web” on the Huffington Post (@147) you can see how much the resentment is stoked and approved of by whites and blacks.


  156. lobo91
    161 | May 26, 2013 7:34 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    Never trust anyone over the age of five whose worldview can be summed up on a bumper sticker.


  157. yenta-fada
    162 | May 26, 2013 7:37 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ yenta-fada:
    Never trust anyone over the age of five whose worldview can be summed up on a bumper sticker.

    Duly noted. :-)


  158. lobo91
    163 | May 26, 2013 7:45 pm

    @ yenta-fada:

    “War is never the answer.”

    Really? Never?

    “Give peace a chance.”

    We did. Didn’t work.


  159. lobo91
    164 | May 26, 2013 7:49 pm

    Report: IRS Harassment Of Conservatives Is Still Happening

    Though the White House has insisted the IRS stopped formally targeting Tea Party and conservative organizations in May of 2012, two attorneys representing conservative organizations have claimed the IRS’s targeting may still be ongoing.

    Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) and Cleta Mitchell, the attorney representing True the Vote, have evidence their clients are still being targeted.

    According to National Review, Sekulow “plans to file suit in federal court in the coming weeks on behalf of more than two dozen conservative groups that claim their harassment at the hands of the nation’s tax authority continued long past the White House’s purported end date.”

    Shocker
    //


  160. buzzsawmonkey
    165 | May 26, 2013 7:53 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    “War is never the answer.”

    Really? Never?

    It depends on the question, doesn’t it?


  161. Bumr50
    166 | May 26, 2013 8:12 pm


  162. Liz_Ardoid
    167 | May 27, 2013 6:28 am

    With typical duplicity, they cited a portion of a verse — “Whoever killed a human being . . . it shall be regarded as having killed all mankind” — while leaving out the critical part: “ . . . except as punishment for murder or other villainy in the land.”

    Also: they NEVER quote the start of the verse:

    “For that cause We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being [...]“

    Are muslims considered ‘Children of Israel’?
    I don’t think so…

    ( see the various translations of this ayah:
    http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/5/32/default.htm )


  163. Icekoldebassman
    168 | May 27, 2013 9:14 am

    I admit I did not go through all the posts to see if anyone covered this. The Talmud states this concept several centuries before the Quran came into existence:

    RIX wrote:

    Rupert Murdoch ✔ @rupertmurdoch
    Get real. Koran says(1) “whoever killed a human being…it shall be regarded as having killed all mankind…
    11:58 AM — 26 May 2013
    Wait for his next tweet.

    “Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.”

    - Mishnah Sanhedrin 4:5; Babylonian Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin 37a


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