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Bicycle lanes to nowhere

by Speranza ( 127 Comments › )
Filed under Transportation at June 28th, 2013 - 8:56 am

Nanny Bloomberg’s latest “brain storm” is that every one should be biking to work and throughout the city. The problem is that the streets of Manhattan are too dangerous for bikers and pedestrians run the risk of being hit by “kamikaze bicyclists”.

by Daniel Greenfield

The streets of Manhattan are full of smiling white yuppies riding their Citibank bikes, blue lights flashing as they sail through midtown traffic.

But the great rack of bike share bikes planted next to a housing project is filled with its cargo of blue vehicles. No one is checking them out here. Instead black kids sit on the locked bikes, occasionally fitfully pedaling them, going nowhere.

The contrast is an apt metaphor for the city. The smiling kids who could just as easily be cashing checks from their parents and working at an ad agency while trying to pay off their student debts in Portland, San Francisco or Seattle. They happen to be doing it in New York City and they expect the same social amenities, the retro bars, the craft beers, the obscure bands and the bike lanes.

The street ahead has been dug up and water has been turned off to half the block. The operation has no other purpose than to turn two lanes of traffic into some kind of complex curved sidewalk on a street where there is hardly any foot traffic and you can wait two minutes to see a single pedestrian during the daylight hours.

Such street planning assaults are happening all over the city as traffic lanes are torn out and eliminated to make way for impromptu sidewalk cafes and expanded sidewalks that often no one needs or wants. And then there are the ubiquitous bike and bus lanes which see about 1 percent of the traffic of the street and the sidewalk, but are approaching equal billing in terms of space.

Bloomberg’s bike share program

When I wrote about Bloomberg’s bike share program back a few months ago, I was attacked by the New York Times’ Paul Krugman, Gawker, New York Mag and the New York Observer. It’s easy to see what unites these outlets. They are the voices of the upscale city that doesn’t drive to work, but is driven. The one that thinks the city is only a few bike lanes away from being properly European.

Krugman and Co. assumed that I was against bike shares because conservatives hate sharing. I don’t claim to speak for conservatives, but most of them, I suspect, like me, are concerned about the political hijacking of urban spaces by a small elite. [........]

Bikes passionately divide New Yorkers in ways that more commonplace national social issues like guns and abortion fail to do. Most social issues are really a form of class identification. When Obama sneered about poor Pennsylvania whites bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles at a San Fran fundraiser, he was really talking about class.

Gun control is a sharp divide between the regimented urban environment and the rural culture. Abortion is also about class as defined by the stark choices between family or career. They are about the new America and the old. The America of the gun and the gun pop tart.  [..........]

The America where everyone is jammed up by space and government and the one where you make your own boundaries.

To many New Yorkers, the bike is a nuisance

To many New Yorkers, the bike is a nuisance. To others it’s an identity. The issue isn’t two wheels over four in some vehicular hodgepodge of animal farm. It’s about control of the streets. The city is not its buildings. It is its streets. The buildings house people, but the streets define the purpose of the city. A city with streets full of cars is a working city. A city with streets full of bikes is a leisure city.

The gentrification blitzkrieg is as much social as it is environmental. It’s no secret that Bloomberg hates cars. Or that the yuppies or yuckies who have transformed corners of the city into tiny slices of Portland hate them even more. The new bikeshare program is as much about displacing people as it is about placing them. It’s about the kind of city that they want to see.

The old loud New York City is being made smooth and quiet. Old noisy bars are making way for fake retro establishments that look like they date back a hundred years ago, but weren’t even there last week. Car lanes are giving way to bike lanes. On one side overgrown children gleefully pedal their Citibank bikes, a habit they will abandon when winter sets in.  [.......]

There are rural parts of the country where walkers are suspect. A man who walks down the street, rather than drives, is suspected of being a bum or a criminal. Solid citizens own cars and drive them to work or to the mall. Indigents walk. The urban centers however are swinging the other way. It’s the drivers who are suspect and the bike riders who are the solid citizens of the recyclable state.

Social standing is often a function of wealth signified by leisure. Fat was in when food was scarce and having a rotund belly meant having wealth and freedom from work Now that everyone can eat, fat is out. The mark of the wealthy leisure class is the time to spend on exercise programs that transform their bodies into some ever-shifting ideal. [........]

Bikes, once associated with a wealthy leisure class who had the time to pursue their interest in nature and healthy activities, became universal when nearly every child could have one. Now bikes have been priced up into expensive adult toys. Cities are full of grown men and women who spend fortunes on expensive bikes that they hardly ever use except on the weekends, but hang prominently by their doors so that everyone can see.

The car owner is more likely to be a working man, while a bike communicates membership in a leisure class

The car owner is more likely to be a working man, while a bike communicates membership in a leisure class. Like an exercise programs, it says that the owner has the time and the money to take it slow, to not worry about timelines and deadlines, to do his own thing. The biking adult cares, which is the chief hobby of the leisure class. The more someone cares, the less he works.  [.......]

The new elite cares. Its claim to caring is also its claim to power. They claim, therefore they rule. America doesn’t really make things anymore. It cares. It cares so much that it invades other countries to change their governments. It cares so much that it squanders fortunes on foreign aid. It cares so much that it goes deep into debt to fund social services and then promote them. It cares so much that it bans salt, cars and large sodas while insisting that everyone ride bikes.

Millennials are less likely to drive than any other previous generation. The American Dream in the new Yuckie outposts is compacting down from a home and car to a bike and an apartment just big enough to keep it in, a Netflix account and a small gig at a non-profit to pay down student loans. It’s all very European and all very doomed.

“A European country is — like Germany, France, England — those countries are between 60 and 80 million people,” Bill Maher told CNN. “We have those 60, 80 million smart people . . . but we just have more people. There’s a great, smart European country in America; it’s just surrounded by a bunch of rednecks.”

It would be hard to come up with a more accurate mission statement for the new technocracy than that. Focus on that core few million who can be persuaded to ride bikes to work and get into debt obtaining degrees in useless fields and get rid of the rest.  [........]

And that’s probably true. But it’s not the rational Europe where everything is neat, clean and tidy. Where everything works and no one gets hung up on nationalism or religion. That place only exists in the wishful thinking of American leftists who still carry around an inferiority complex for a mother country that they never knew.

The Europe that they biking toward is a place sharply divided between the unemployed minority youth who burn cars and the unemployed over-educated natives who have six advanced degrees and nothing to do but demand that the government lower university rates further. It’s a place where some things are neat and clean, but other things are on fire. Where the only people who believe in nationalism or religion are immigrants and the nationalism and religion they believe in are of their own home countries.

Cities like New York are scurrying to attract the young urban elite with bike lanes and sidewalk cafes, with craft beer and organic food, and confidence that the only thing that can save them is transitioning to a knowledge economy in which people won’t drive to work on a 9-to-5 schedule, but will instead leisurely bike around while contemplating some breakthrough social media app that will change everything.

[.......]

Europe is a dead end. Its national societies and economics are in a state of deep insecurity and decline. The technocracy dreaming of a United States run to European Socialist standards is riding a bike lane to nowhere.

Read the rest – Daniel Greenfield

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  1. Speranza
    1 | June 28, 2013 9:03 am

    Yuppies and hipsters are all about “leisure” rather then working, as the Knish recognizes.


  2. 2 | June 28, 2013 9:06 am

    The new elite cares. Its claim to caring is also its claim to power. They claim, therefore they rule. America doesn’t really make things anymore. It cares. It cares so much that it invades other countries to change their governments. It cares so much that it squanders fortunes on foreign aid. It cares so much that it goes deep into debt to fund social services and then promote them. It cares so much that it bans salt, cars and large sodas while insisting that everyone ride bikes.

    Millennials are less likely to drive than any other previous generation. The American Dream in the new Yuckie outposts is compacting down from a home and car to a bike and an apartment just big enough to keep it in, a Netflix account and a small gig at a non-profit to pay down student loans. It’s all very European and all very doomed.

    I am reminded of the fact that China, under Mao, also pushed riding bicycles. Interesting parallel. Obama has been terrible fo rthe young, and they may never really recover from him. In return they voted for him in record numbers. People ask what th eGOP can do to win these voters, but the truth is there may be nothing. If ObamaCare wasn’t sufficient reason to vote against Obama for these people, promising them more free stuf from the government probably isn’t goin gto win their vote. Bringing in more immigrants, legal or illegal, to compete with them head to head for the meager jobs that do exist probably won’t win their votes, either. They say they want to feel the party “cares” about them, but did Obama care about them when he raised their taxes? Did he care about them when he destroyed their chances of ever having a full time job? They are the most screwed generation, and they voted for the man who screwed them because they convinced themselves that the screwer “cared” about them. You don’t “win” the votes of such people. They vote based on things that aren’t grounded in reality. Well, over the next four years they are goin gto get a harsh dose of reality. Maybe in 2016 they’ll be tired of working a job at Starbucks and a “job” as a volunteer at a non-profit and a job at Burger King to make ends meet. But more likely they’ll still vote for “free” contraceptives that cost them $2500 a year.


  3. 3 | June 28, 2013 9:11 am

    @ Speranza:

    Definately true, but they are going to have to work to pay their ObamCare tax for not having healthcare. The IRS isn’t going to let them slide on that, not after the Supreme Court approved it. Next year they have to start paying. And pay they will, because two 25 hour a week jobs at Starbucks and Burger King (if they can get them) won’t pay enough to buy healthcare on the Exchanges.


  4. Speranza
    4 | June 28, 2013 9:20 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Definately true, but they are going to have to work to pay their ObamCare tax for not having healthcare. The IRS isn’t going to let them slide on that, not after the Supreme Court approved it. Next year they have to start paying. And pay they will, because two 25 hour a week jobs at Starbucks and Burger King (if they can get them) won’t pay enough to buy healthcare on the Exchanges.

    I don’t think they have made the connection between the importance of work in order to pay for leisure.


  5. RIX
    5 | June 28, 2013 9:22 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    These kids are saddled with student loan debt.
    Money became availble in massive mounts & the
    Universities noticed.
    So they raised tuition through the roof to give the Dean
    & profs raises.
    They are also using cash that these kids are on the hook
    for to provide scholarships for those that they consider
    worthy.


  6. 6 | June 28, 2013 9:26 am

    @ Speranza:

    They are, as the article suggests, overgrown children. They can stay on mommy and daddy’s health insurance until they are 26 now, transferring the cost of that burden to their parents and their parent’s work. But that assumes that their parents have health insurance, and in Obama’s America that is becoming less of a sure thing. We are a nation of 15 million unemployed. Three million have dropped out of the work force entirely, which may massage the numbers in ways that Obama likes, but does nothing fo r health insurance numbers. These overgrown children are goin gto have to grow up quick next year when it comes time to pay their taxes. I don’t think they are going to be withholding ObamaCare taxes, either, so the real shock will come when they have to find some way to pay in the $2500 or so that ObamaCare will cost thme. I expect the Democrats to make some move to stop that from happening this year. That’ll be a hell of a shock to pay in an Election Year. I don’t kno wif it’ll be enough to change their voting habits, though.


  7. 7 | June 28, 2013 9:30 am

    @ RIX:

    Yeah. Fortunately, these kids took out loans to get degrees in marketable skills like transgender equity studies and ethnic studies. They’ll be lucky to get the jobs atBurger King and Starbucks, but they probably think they are too good for such work. They are really fucked. The Student Loan debt will haunt them for the next 30 years, and the degree in transgender equity will be about as marketable as a degree in philosophy. Less so, because Philosophy is a rigorous program that emphasizes logic and critical thinking skills. The Transgender Studies can’t even really be called a discipline, and it emphasizes conformity, not independent thinking.


  8. RIX
    8 | June 28, 2013 9:31 am

    @ Speranza:
    The kids were taken with Obama as the hip Black dude.
    He likes to shoot hoops & has jams on his IPod, just
    like them.
    I heard sveral conversations during the first Campaign
    and the recurring theme was that Obama is cool.


  9. RIX
    9 | June 28, 2013 9:34 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    Yup, the kids were encouraged to take “relevant” majors
    by college counselors.
    Transgender Studies is a foundation for asking “Do you
    want fries with that.”
    They are now getting a slapped by reality.


  10. 11 | June 28, 2013 9:38 am

    @ Iron Fist:


  11. 12 | June 28, 2013 9:38 am

    @ huckfunn:

    May Обама’s negatives drop even further….


  12. 13 | June 28, 2013 9:42 am

    @ RIX:

    Yeah, it was about the same when I went through. It was seen as imptortant that you get a degree, but what you got it in was not. That, of course, couldn’t be farther from the truth. I did the pre-law thing, and when I decided not to go to law school I had to go back and get a second degree in computer science to get a good job. But I had a foundation in critical thinking and logic from the poly-sci degree, and that was valuable in my pursuit of a second degree.


  13. 14 | June 28, 2013 9:44 am

    There are still vast numbers of bicycles in major urban areas in the PRC. Economics alone dictates that. They ride them year-round, through every weather condition.


  14. Speranza
    15 | June 28, 2013 9:47 am

    RIX wrote:

    These kids are saddled with student loan debt.

    Yes therefore making most “liberal arts” degrees irrelevant because they will not get you any meaningful jobs to help you pay down your debt.


  15. 16 | June 28, 2013 9:48 am

    @ Macker:

    Yeah, they are going to find out what’s in it over the next six to nine months. We really don’t know yet, but we know that there will be significant increases in the price of insurance for people (my health policy has gone up at my job), and, of course, the ObamaCare tax for people who don’t have health insurance. One thing we know is that it will make the situation worse, not better. Socialists always want to make things worse. The idea is to make the existing situation so dire that people will accept the Socialists’ Violent Revolution to get out of the existing situation. The last thing socialists want to tdo is improve the existing situation. Most people don’t realize that, and mistake socialists for people who care. Socialists talk the talk, in terms of caring, bu tyou have to look at what they really do to see that they don’t care about the people at all.


  16. Speranza
    17 | June 28, 2013 9:48 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    When until Obamacare kicks in next year and the shit really hits the fan.


  17. huckfunn
    18 | June 28, 2013 9:48 am

    Macker wrote:

    @ huckfunn:

    May Обама’s negatives drop even further….

    I thought he would have gotten a bump from teh ghey marriage ruling.


  18. Speranza
    19 | June 28, 2013 9:49 am

    RIX wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The kids were taken with Obama as the hip Black dude.
    He likes to shoot hoops & has jams on his IPod, just
    like them.
    I heard sveral conversations during the first Campaign
    and the recurring theme was that Obama is cool.

    Enough of them still bought into it in 2012 -- now that is scary.


  19. RIX
    20 | June 28, 2013 9:52 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    I recall that Business Majors were viewed as stupid.
    Seriously, Philosophy & Sociology Majors looked
    down on Business Majors.


  20. 21 | June 28, 2013 9:53 am

    From my point of view, neither Party offers solutions to America’s problems. The Democrats love dependency and Republicans just offer red meat rhetoric.


  21. 22 | June 28, 2013 9:55 am

    @ Speranza:

    Enough of them still bought into it in 2012 — now that is scary

    .

    Republicans do not offer a positive vision for the future. All they do is come across as angry hostile jerks. The Democrats take advantghe of this and scare people into voting for them.

    Until Republicans offer a positive vision and use positive language, they will continue to lose Presidential elections.


  22. MikeA
    23 | June 28, 2013 9:56 am

    @ Speranza:
    @ Iron Fist:

    I am the treasurer for my church. The provider for healthcare plans for our pastors came in to tell us what next year will be. He said for the Philly area, we will see a 25% to 75%. The plan for our pastors went up 42% for 2014. He also sadi the the rise for 2015 will make 2014 look like a small increase. These are the numbers that when they come out will cause gnashing of teeth and great wailing.


  23. RIX
    24 | June 28, 2013 9:56 am

    Enough of them still bought into it in 2012 — now that is scary.
    @ Speranza:

    Right, by that point they should have been over their
    White guilt & known better.
    They are starting to get it now, but if Obama could
    run for a third term, I think that they would vote for
    him again.


  24. 25 | June 28, 2013 9:56 am

    @ Mike C.:

    Yes I have seen pictures of Chinese bike riders in snow.


  25. 26 | June 28, 2013 9:58 am

    @ RIX:

    Obama would win a 3rd term hands down.


  26. 27 | June 28, 2013 9:59 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    DOn’t forget Zionist-Impreialist opression of the 3rd World studies or Carribean Lesbian Literature!

    :lol:


  27. MikeA
    28 | June 28, 2013 10:03 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Carribean Lesbian Literature!

    I think I went to that website… ;)


  28. Guggi
    29 | June 28, 2013 10:04 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    There will be the day -- sooner or later (I believe sooner) -- that it is made mandatory in the U.S.A. to erxecise in the morning like in China.


  29. 30 | June 28, 2013 10:07 am

    @ MikeA:

    Yeah, it has been bad where I work. We’ve also implemented a surcharge for people who are overweight, smoke, or have high cholesterol. And we are self-insured, so we are more insulated from the market than most companies. It is goin gto be bad, though. I don’t see how it could be any other. The law makes it impossible to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, but it doesn’t set the price. They’ll just factor the costs into everybody’s policies. Of course prices will go up. And the number of uninsured isn’t likely to go down much. You’ll have the people who are staying on their parent’s policy until they are 26 coming off, but that really won’t affect most of the uninsured. People working in the service industry won’t make enough to be able to afford health care, even with the subsidies. They’ll pay the tax because that will cost them less money, butit is still going to be a lot of money. When you make $30K a year, it is a lot of money when they take $2500 out of your bottom line. Hell, that’s a lot of money to me, and I am doing considerably better than $30K. These peopel who thought that they were goin gto be getting free health care are in for a rude shock this year and next. And things will just get worse from there. ObamaCare is designed to fail, or, more honestly, was never designed to succeed at making health care more affordable.


  30. 31 | June 28, 2013 10:09 am

    @ MikeA:

    :lol:


  31. MikeA
    32 | June 28, 2013 10:10 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    He was telling us that medical underwriting is gone. Except for slight age differences, everyone gets charged the same amount. Its like saying the 18 year old driver gets the same cost as the 35 year-old married guy who has a great record.


  32. 33 | June 28, 2013 10:11 am

    @ Guggi:

    Oh, I have no doubt about that. In front of your telescreen, so that the NSA can verify that you’ve actually done your exercise. If they can force you to buy health insurance, they can force you to exercise. They can force you to do just bout anything. I am waiting for Obama to go after the Churches with gay marriage. He won’t do it before next year’s election, but you know that is coming. Kennedy laid the foundation for that in his opinion, derriding support for Traditional Marriage as “anti-human”, setting it up as pernicious as racism.


  33. 34 | June 28, 2013 10:12 am

    @ Guggi:

    I am sure in 2017, the “National Great Mother” (Hillary Clinton) will make her children (the American people) do that.


  34. 35 | June 28, 2013 10:13 am

    @ Rodan:

    Like I said, a degree in Philosophy requires the development of critical thinking skills and logic. These “soft humanities” studies teach the exact opposite. They teach conformity of thought, not individual thinking. They are absolutely worthless degrees, and they are just as expensive as a STEM education.


  35. 36 | June 28, 2013 10:13 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Oh, I have no doubt about that. In front of your telescreen, so that the NSA can verify that you’ve actually done your exercise.

    Imagine its Hillary Clinton’s face on the screen telling you what exercises to do?

    :puke:


  36. RIX
    37 | June 28, 2013 10:14 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Obama would win a 3rd term hands down.

    I have no doubt.


  37. 38 | June 28, 2013 10:14 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    That is why College is expensive. They have alot of junk courses.


  38. 39 | June 28, 2013 10:15 am

    @ RIX:

    I would not be shcoked if Michelle Obama runs in 2016 and wins.


  39. MikeA
    40 | June 28, 2013 10:19 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Oh, I have no doubt about that. In front of your telescreen, so that the NSA can verify that you’ve actually done your exercise.
    Imagine its Hillary Clinton’s face on the screen telling you what exercises to do?
    :puke:

    Well that will solve the weight problem since I won’t want to eat after that….


  40. 41 | June 28, 2013 10:19 am

    @ Rodan:

    I could see that happening. I think the Democrat candidate in 2016 will be black. They are already stoking the racial resentments. They’d better be careful with that, though. White people are liable to remember that they are the majority, and question why minorities should have rights that they don’t. That could wreck the Democrats’ chance at winning.


  41. 42 | June 28, 2013 10:19 am

    @ MikeA:

    Yup, plus that Cackle laugh.

    I really hate her.


  42. Guggi
    43 | June 28, 2013 10:20 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Our social understanding is out of control. The post-modernist did a “good” job. We will lose all our freedoms for which our fathers/grandfathers fought for decades.


  43. Guggi
    44 | June 28, 2013 10:20 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    I am sure in 2017, the “National Great Mother” (Hillary Clinton) will make her children (the American people) do that.

    Killary is a disgrace.


  44. Canoe Convoy
    45 | June 28, 2013 10:23 am

    Hi everyone — just returned from the Canadian woods the other day!

    *Waving hello*


  45. heysoos
    46 | June 28, 2013 10:25 am

    @ Guggi:
    Killery!
    good one


  46. 47 | June 28, 2013 10:25 am

    @ Guggi:

    Yes, and I blame public education for that. Sometime about the time I reached high school, they stopped teaching America in the schools. It was worse in some areas than others. California schools are among the worst, while those in the South and West aree less so, but everywhere they taught that the Foundig Fathers were just a bunch of Dead White Men, slaveowners and dispicable. It was pervasive even when I was in high school. When I was younger, though, they still taught American Greatness. That has been completely erased from the curriculum. The kids coming up today won’t ever realize the freedom that they’ve lost.


  47. 48 | June 28, 2013 10:26 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    They’d better be careful with that, though. White people are liable to remember that they are the majority, and question why minorities should have rights that they don’t. That could wreck the Democrats’ chance at winning.

    Whites who are resentful already vote Republican, so they’ve hit a wall there.

    As weird as this may sound,I would take another Black Democrat over Hillary. I really hate that bitch and can’t stand her cackle laugh. That face of hers makes me gross.


  48. MikeA
    49 | June 28, 2013 10:27 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    So true. I am currently reading John Adams by David McCullough. The book is amazing and highly recommended. It shows so much of the man and his thoughts. We were never taught about any of it. Shame.


  49. 50 | June 28, 2013 10:28 am

    @ Guggi:

    She’s a despicable individual. I will never forget when Arafat’s wife said that israelis poison Arab wells, Hillary applauded her. Yet, the American people love her and view her as some “Great Mother” figure.


  50. 51 | June 28, 2013 10:28 am

    @ Canoe Convoy:

    Hello!


  51. Guggi
    52 | June 28, 2013 10:33 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Guggi:

    Yes, and I blame public education for that. Sometime about the time I reached high school, they stopped teaching America in the schools. It was worse in some areas than others. California schools are among the worst, while those in the South and West aree less so, but everywhere they taught that the Foundig Fathers were just a bunch of Dead White Men, slaveowners and dispicable. It was pervasive even when I was in high school. When I was younger, though, they still taught American Greatness. That has been completely erased from the curriculum. The kids coming up today won’t ever realize the freedom that they’ve lost.

    This was the plan from the very beginning. Destroy enterely the existing culture and Society to replace it with postmodern (fascist) sh*t.


  52. Guggi
    53 | June 28, 2013 10:34 am

    In years to come, yesterday’s announcement of the mind-boggling amounts of shale gas beneath our feet may be seen as a game-changer for Britain. It is almost impossible to exaggerate how important it could prove for us over the next century. Just one site has an estimated 1,300 trillion cubic feet of the stuff. That could theoretically supply us for 433 years. Even if we can only extract ten per cent it’ll last half a century. It would be the biggest site in Europe. Alone it would make the UK a world leader in shale production. Shale may be a few years off. But it is a golden opportunity we must embrace.


  53. 54 | June 28, 2013 10:34 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Yet, the American people love her and view her as some “Great Mother” figure.

    I think you are wrong about that. Hillary is one of the most divisive figures in American politics. Democrats love her, but Democrats aren’t 50% of the population. I doubt Hillary’s favorables among independents are as high as Obama’s, and Obama lost independents. There are more Democrats than Republicans, but independents aren’t to be pissed on. I don’t think Hillary understands that.


  54. RIX
    55 | June 28, 2013 10:35 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    I would not be shcoked if Michelle Obama runs in 2016 and wins.

    That wouldn’t surprise me either.
    If she does Hillary is toast .


  55. 56 | June 28, 2013 10:37 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I hope I am wrong becasue I despise the Cackle.


  56. 57 | June 28, 2013 10:38 am

    @ RIX:

    Either Deval Patrick or Michelle Obama can defeat Hillary.


  57. RIX
    58 | June 28, 2013 10:40 am

    Last night Gretta had two of her lawyer pals on,
    Bernie Grimm & Ted Williams to comment on the
    star prosecution witness in the Zimmerman Case.
    They both thought that she did a good job?
    Although Williams did allow that she is a little
    unsophisticated.
    That’s like saying, “she might seem fat, but really
    she is just a little short.”


  58. RIX
    59 | June 28, 2013 10:41 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Either Deval Patrick or Michelle Obama can defeat Hillary.

    Probably. Mooch would be a lock.


  59. Speranza
    60 | June 28, 2013 10:43 am

    Rodan wrote:

    Republicans do not offer a positive vision for the future. All they do is come across as angry hostile jerks.

    Yes and yes.


  60. Speranza
    61 | June 28, 2013 10:44 am

    RIX wrote:

    Right, by that point they should have been over their
    White guilt & known better.
    They are starting to get it now, but if Obama could
    run for a third term, I think that they would vote for
    him again.

    Oh he would definitely be re-elected and re-elected again and again unless he somehow got whiter.


  61. Speranza
    62 | June 28, 2013 10:45 am

    MikeA wrote:

    I am the treasurer for my church. The provider for healthcare plans for our pastors came in to tell us what next year will be. He said for the Philly area, we will see a 25% to 75%. The plan for our pastors went up 42% for 2014. He also sadi the the rise for 2015 will make 2014 look like a small increase. These are the numbers that when they come out will cause gnashing of teeth and great wailing.

    The End of America as we once knew it.


  62. Speranza
    63 | June 28, 2013 10:45 am

    RIX wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ RIX:
    Either Deval Patrick or Michelle Obama can defeat Hillary.

    Probably. Mooch would be a lock.

    Deval Patrick would annihilate her.


  63. Speranza
    64 | June 28, 2013 10:46 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ RIX:
    Either Deval Patrick or Michelle Obama can defeat Hillary.

    If Obama (and his Chiacgo mafia) through his weight behind uber liberal Martin O’Malley, he (O’Malley) would beat her too.


  64. 65 | June 28, 2013 10:48 am

    @ Speranza:

    I think who Obama picks will carry a lot of weight. If he picks Hillary, she’ll win the nomination, but if he goes against her she probably will not.


  65. Speranza
    66 | June 28, 2013 10:48 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    I think you are wrong about that. Hillary is one of the most divisive figures in American politics. Democrats love her, but Democrats aren’t 50% of the population. I doubt Hillary’s favorables among independents are as high as Obama’s, and Obama lost independents. There are more Democrats than Republicans, but independents aren’t to be pissed on. I don’t think Hillary understands that.

    Yes and Bill Clinton never even got 50% of the vote. However if Jeb Bush is the GOP candidate we are finished.


  66. 67 | June 28, 2013 10:49 am

    @ Speranza:

    O’Malley is a Hipster and would be a cool Hip White guy who is down with the bruthas becasue he plays Blues guitars.


  67. 68 | June 28, 2013 10:50 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I think who Obama picks will carry a lot of weight. If he picks Hillary, she’ll win the nomination, but if he goes against her she probably will not.

    Yup, hence OFA its a way for Obama and the Chicago mob to control the Democrats. Whoever Obama favors will get the nod.


  68. Speranza
    69 | June 28, 2013 10:50 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    I think who Obama picks will carry a lot of weight. If he picks Hillary, she’ll win the nomination, but if he goes against her she probably will not.

    Bill did him a major favor with his convention speech but the fact is that Barack (and more importantly Michelle) Obama hates the Clinton’s.


  69. 70 | June 28, 2013 10:52 am

    @ Speranza:

    Obama has been a more successful President than Bill Clinton. He has been more successful at pushing the Liberal agenda, and he has been more successful electorally. Bill Clinton wouldn’t have beaten GHWBush if Ross Perot hadn’t been a factor.


  70. Speranza
    71 | June 28, 2013 10:52 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    O’Malley is a Hipster and would be a cool Hip White guy who is down with the bruthas becasue he plays Blues guitars.

    And his fiscal responsibility and job creating record is the perfect “liberal” record of governing -- a disaster!!!


  71. Speranza
    72 | June 28, 2013 10:53 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Obama has been a more successful President than Bill Clinton. He has been more successful at pushing the Liberal agenda, and he has been more successful electorally. Bill Clinton wouldn’t have beaten GHWBush if Ross Perot hadn’t been a factor.

    In the sense that he is “transforming” America -- yes he is one of the most successful presidents ever. however his “success” is and will be a disaster for this nation.


  72. Speranza
    73 | June 28, 2013 10:54 am

    Speranza wrote:

    Bill Clinton wouldn’t have beaten GHWBush if Ross Perot hadn’t been a factor.

    GHW Bush was an asshole -- blowing a 90% approval rating in February 1991 and losing out to a libertine and a liar 17 months later.


  73. 74 | June 28, 2013 10:55 am

    @ Speranza:

    As we see, records do not matter. He’s hip and understands the popular culture.

    Imagine O’Malley vs. Santorum?


  74. 75 | June 28, 2013 10:56 am

    @ Speranza:

    Obama’s gotten all he can get out of the Clintons. Obama is not a man of intense loyalty to anybody. He won’t pick Hillary because he feels he owes Bill. He might pick Hillary because she represents a better chance of his successor being elected, but I am not sure she even brings that. Rodan is convinced the people love her, but I don’t see that. Democrats love her, but Democrats are less than 50% of the vote. Independents aren’t going to love her, and Benghazi isn’t going to go away for her. Her tenure at the State Department was not exceptional except for its failures. She wants to run for President because she feels that Bill owes that to her, but I don’t know how much weight Bill is going to carry after eight years of Obama.


  75. 76 | June 28, 2013 10:59 am

    @ Speranza:

    It’s becasue of Poppy that every Republican who runs for President has to engage in fire and brimstone type red meat rhetoric to win the nomination. Poppy was the one who started that culture war family values garbage. He lost the North East and Upper Midwest for the GOP for over a generation now.

    We are still living with the consequences of the 92 election.


  76. 77 | June 28, 2013 10:59 am

    Speranza wrote:

    however his “success” is and will be a disaster for this nation.

    Obama i sprofoundly anti-American. I blame both McCain and Romney for not using that against him. It was the biggest arrow in both their quivers, and they left it unfired. I don’t think either one of them really wanted to be President, they just wanted to keep someone more conservative than them from having a shot. And it was their turn, which was much more important than merely winning.


  77. 78 | June 28, 2013 11:01 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Rodan is convinced the people love her, but I don’t see that.

    Her approval ratings are in the mid to high 50′s. That means more than Democrats love her.

    Benghazi isn’t going to go away for her.

    Sadly, most Americans do not care about Benghazi.


  78. 79 | June 28, 2013 11:01 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I do not think anyone could have beaten Obama.


  79. RIX
    80 | June 28, 2013 11:03 am

    Oh he would definitely be re-elected and re-elected again and again unless he somehow got whiter.
    @ Speranza:

    It’s like mass hypnosis.


  80. heysoos
    81 | June 28, 2013 11:04 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    I do not think anyone could have beaten Obama.

    why not?…all conservatives had to do was go out and vote against BO…but that’s too much hassel for a party that does support them


  81. 82 | June 28, 2013 11:06 am

    @ Rodan:

    You may be right in that, but neither Romney nor McCain really tried. McCain faced the inevitible “historic” implications of the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT, and Romney faced some of the same, but it remains true that ObamaCare is deeply unpopular. If Romney had ran on repeal, he might have won enough of the votes of the working poor to make the difference. We’ll never know, but I remain convinced that Romney didn’t try as hard as he could have to win. He left a lot of arrows unfired. It does you no good to conserve your ammunition if your position is overrun with your rounds unfired. I don’t think Romney was conserving his ammunition, though. I don’tthink he was trying to win.


  82. heysoos
    83 | June 28, 2013 11:06 am

    @ heysoos:
    does NOT support them that is


  83. 84 | June 28, 2013 11:07 am

    @ heysoos:

    Which Conservative could have beaten Obama?


  84. RIX
    85 | June 28, 2013 11:09 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    We have never had a president with less connection
    to American culture & ethos than Obama.
    He spent his formative years away from the Mainland
    in Hawaii & overseas in Indonesia.
    He was immersed in far let ideas by his grandfather &
    Marxist Frank Marshall Davis.
    By his own admission he gravitated to Marist students
    & profs when he got to the Mainland..
    Like his father , he considers America an oppressive,
    colonial power.


  85. heysoos
    86 | June 28, 2013 11:10 am

    Rodan wrote:

    @ heysoos:
    Which Conservative could have beaten Obama?

    you…it’s about votes, not candidated…rebublicans could massively outvote the donks in a national election


  86. 87 | June 28, 2013 11:12 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I think Romney thought he woukld win in a cake walk. His consultants did not care about victory, only getting paid.


  87. 88 | June 28, 2013 11:13 am

    @ heysoos:

    you…it’s about votes, not candidated…rebublicans could massively outvote the donks in a national election

    I disagree with that. Republicans are negative and offer no vision of a better tommorow. All the GOP has done is turn people off with their hostile attitude.


  88. 89 | June 28, 2013 11:20 am

    @ RIX:

    That sums it up about right.


  89. RIX
    90 | June 28, 2013 11:21 am

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    Rodan wrote:
    @ RIX:
    Either Deval Patrick or Michelle Obama can defeat Hillary.

    Probably. Mooch would be a lock.

    Deval Patrick would annihilate her.

    Mooch is a triple threat, Black, Female & an Obama.


  90. 91 | June 28, 2013 11:21 am

    Rodan wrote:

    All the GOP has done is turn people off with their hostile attitude.

    I disagree with that. If you were correct, the GOP wouldn’t hold the House of Representatives. What the GOP is is schitzophrenic. The Party Mandarins are more interested in getting a leg up on the Tea Party than they are defeating the Democrats. Without the Tea Party, the Republicans wouldn’t have taken the House, but with it they could have taken the Presidency. Romney ran as far away from the Tea PArty as fast as he could. The Party Mandarins have always held the base in contempt. That is what really cost GHWBush the Presidency. He pissed on the base over taxes and gun control, so they voted for Perot. Bill Clinton didn’t seem like that big of a threat. The Democrats love their base, and nurture it. The Republicans hate their base, and really wish it would just go away.


  91. RIX
    92 | June 28, 2013 11:41 am

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Republican elite view the base as a bunch of
    unsophisticated crackers.
    They are wrong & Rand Paul & Ted Cruz are on the rise.


  92. waldensianspirit
    93 | June 28, 2013 11:41 am

    Schumer Professes His Love For Marco Rubio: “I Think The World Of Him”…

    They got him. Wow he was easy


  93. lobo91
    94 | June 28, 2013 11:42 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    The Democrats love their base, and nurture it.

    To the point of absurdity:

    Texas Democrat Wendy Davis Wore Urinary Catheter During 11-Hour Filibuster Against Pro-Life Bill…

    The Democrat at the heart of the successful filibuster of a Texas bill to ban abortion after the 20-week pregnancy mark proved an above and beyond dedication to beating back the measure — she even wore a catheter.

    Sen. Wendy Davis, 50, donned running shoes, a back brace and a urinary catheter in the walk up to her Tuesday filibuster that ultimately spanned 11 hours.

    “She’s a total fighter,” said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Action Fund, in the Daily Mail. “And the thing about Sen. Davis, she says she’s going to do something, she gets it down.”


  94. 95 | June 28, 2013 11:44 am

    RIX wrote:

    They are wrong & Rand Paul & Ted Cruz are on the rise.

    Yeah, it’ll be inteesting to watch that play out. I think the Party Mandarins will be more interested in sabotaging Cruz and Paul than they are in winning the election in 2016.


  95. 96 | June 28, 2013 11:47 am

    @ lobo91:

    If the Republicans had any balls they’d run against this woman who wants to kill premature babies. The Democrats have no problems calling us any number of names when it suits their purposes. Why not at least point out the truth about this woman? It isn’t about “choice”. It is about infanticide. The Left loves infanticide. The American people, though, aren’t so cool with it. But the Republican Mandarins would rather be loved by the Democrats than win elections.


  96. 97 | June 28, 2013 11:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I disagree with that. If you were correct, the GOP wouldn’t hold the House of Representatives.

    They hold the House thanks to redistricting and the nature of the House favors rural districts which the GOP holds.

    The Democrats love their base, and nurture it

    They don’t have a base, they have a coaltion.

    The Republicans hate their base, and really wish it would just go away.

    My observation is different. In the primaries all the GOP does is play up to the base, hence raising their expections. Then in the General election they move to the center and when they govern, they move to the Left. All this does is enrage the base who then make more demands on the GOP. Hence in the next primaries, the GOP raises the expectations of the base even more with red meat rhetoric. It’s a very nasty cycle that costs the GOP elections.

    What the Republican Base needs to realize is they alone can not win an elections. They must form a Coalition like the Democrats have.


  97. lobo91
    98 | June 28, 2013 11:49 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    I think the Party Mandarins will be more interested in sabotaging Cruz and Paul than they are in winning the election in 2016.

    I think that’s a given


  98. RIX
    99 | June 28, 2013 11:49 am

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Schumer Professes His Love For Marco Rubio: “I Think The World Of Him”…

    They got him. Wow he was easy

    Yup, he went round heeled. I hated to see it.


  99. RIX
    100 | June 28, 2013 11:50 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    They are wrong & Rand Paul & Ted Cruz are on the rise.

    Yeah, it’ll be inteesting to watch that play out. I think the Party Mandarins will be more interested in sabotaging Cruz and Paul than they are in winning the election in 2016.

    Sure, they fear a loss of power in the Party,
    more than they want the White House & the Senate.


  100. lobo91
    101 | June 28, 2013 11:51 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    That whole thing was a disgrace. I don’t understand why they allowed a mob to occupy the gallery and disrupt the proceedings for hours.


  101. 102 | June 28, 2013 11:52 am

    Rodan wrote:

    They hold the House thanks to redistricting and the nature of the House favors rural districts which the GOP holds.

    Yes, contrary to what the Left wants, rural districts do fget representation, but s what? A rural representative counts as much as one from New York City. We hold more districts. We also hold more State Houses. What the Democrats have is a solid base in the big cities. They are, in fact, the kind of people discussed in this article. The kind of people who are engaged in pursit of leisure activities rather than work, or are otherwise supported by the State.


  102. 103 | June 28, 2013 11:54 am

    @ RIX:

    The Republican base has been played like a fiddle by the GOP Establishment. This has just increased their anger and thus why their rhetoric is hostile to those not part of the base.

    It is a vicious cycle ane one I blame on the Establishment.


  103. lobo91
    104 | June 28, 2013 11:56 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    Yes, contrary to what the Left wants, rural districts do fget representation, but s what? A rural representative counts as much as one from New York City.

    A fact that the Republican establishment hates just as much as the Dems do.


  104. 105 | June 28, 2013 11:59 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    A rural representative counts as much as one from New York City

    I never said anything was wrong with that, just the reason why the GOP holds the House.

    The Democrats also control many Suburban districts that were once Republican. If you add up the Urban and Suburban distritcs, they are not enough to win the house, but becasue they have large populations, they tip many states blue in Presidential elections.

    It was not like this until 92.

    If the GOP ever wants to becaome a aprty that can win the Presidency they need towin back these suburban distritcs and cut into the urban vote. It can be done, but the GOP does not do it becasue it would piss off its base. They are damn if they do, damn if they do not.


  105. 106 | June 28, 2013 11:59 am

    @ lobo91:

    Mob rule is what the Democrats really want. Mobs are easier to manipulate than individuals.


  106. 107 | June 28, 2013 12:02 pm

    New Thread.


  107. RIX
    108 | June 28, 2013 12:02 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Exhibit one of what is wrong with the Republican Party
    is John McCain.
    He angrily went int a rant inn the Senate bashing anybody
    that disagrees with the Gang of Eight, “Anybody that
    opposes this bill, doesn’t understand it!”
    That’s right, anyone who doesn’t go along with him
    is stoopid.


  108. 109 | June 28, 2013 12:02 pm

    Rodan wrote:

    If the GOP ever wants to becaome a aprty that can win the Presidency they need towin back these suburban distritcs and cut into the urban vote.

    You forget one thing: George Bush won the Presidency not once but twice. You act as though the Republicans haven’t held the Presidency since 1992, but that simply isn’t true. Bush could have won stronger, true, but he did win. Romney could have won, too, but he chose to run away from the base. Rather than embrace the Tea Party and run against ObamaCare, Romney chose not to.


  109. 110 | June 28, 2013 12:02 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    If Republicans ever want to win the Presidncy, they need to learn to play the game.


  110. 111 | June 28, 2013 12:03 pm

    @ RIX:

    Yeah, McRINO is the worst one we have up there. People who don’t want to sell out on border security are stupid! McRINO has always wanted to make sure the GOP was in the Minority Party. That has been his mission ever since he got into the Senate.


  111. lobo91
    112 | June 28, 2013 12:04 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    Exhibit one of what is wrong with the Republican Party
    is John McCain.
    He angrily went int a rant inn the Senate bashing anybody
    that disagrees with the Gang of Eight, “Anybody that
    opposes this bill, doesn’t understand it!”
    That’s right, anyone who doesn’t go along with him
    is stoopid.

    Of course, the reality is just the opposite. The people who oppose it DID read the bill, and saw how many things were left up to the DHS secretary’s discretion, among other things.


  112. RIX
    113 | June 28, 2013 12:06 pm

    @ Rodan:
    The Party fails to understand that the Tea Party delivered the
    House in 2010 & would have delivered the Senate if enough
    seats were up.
    The Establishment of the Party seem to think that they did it.
    They sit back & say nothing when the Tea Party is accused of
    being violent hateful racists. Just like they didn’t defend Sarah
    Palin.


  113. RIX
    114 | June 28, 2013 12:08 pm

    Of course, the reality is just the opposite. The people who oppose it DID read the bill, and saw how many things were left up to the DHS secretary’s discretion, among other things.
    @ lobo91:

    I would bet that McCain himself has not read the
    entire bill.
    Maybe his daughter Megan is advising him.


  114. lobo91
    115 | June 28, 2013 12:13 pm

    @ RIX:

    Fortunately, that bill looks like it’s going straight into the circular file in the House.

    As far as I see, they hold all the cards. They should pass a border security bill and then tell the Senate to take it or leave it.


  115. 116 | June 28, 2013 12:14 pm

    @ RIX:

    Sarah Palin and the Tea Party are the enemy to the Party Mandarins. They only see the Democrats as competitors. That is why you didn’t hear anything about the Tea Partybeing repressed during the last election. The Republican Party Mandarins were just as happy as clams about what the IRS was doing. Now that the election is over, they’ll make some noise, but not too much noise. Wouldn’t want to upset the Democrats, you see.


  116. RIX
    117 | June 28, 2013 12:15 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    Fortunately, that bill looks like it’s going straight into the circular file in the House.

    As far as I see, they hold all the cards. They should pass a border security bill and then tell the Senate to take it or leave it.

    Exactly.


  117. RIX
    118 | June 28, 2013 12:17 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Guys like McCain are not mavericks.
    Mavericks don’t constantly support the other team.


  118. Buffalobob
    119 | June 28, 2013 12:17 pm

    Typical progs like Bloomie, will decide what is best for the unwashed masses. If bikes are good and exercise is good, why does he allow smoking on the streets of NYC? Walking down the streets of lower Manhattan is like running a teargas exercise in basic training.


  119. 120 | June 28, 2013 12:20 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Mavericks don’t constantly support the other team.

    Exactly. McRINO is on the other side. He only runs as a Republican because that’s what it takes to get elected in Arizona. He’d switch parties in a heartbeat if re-election were in it.


  120. lobo91
    121 | June 28, 2013 12:24 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I don’t see how he keeps getting elected in Arizona. He’s against everything the people he supposedly represents want.


  121. RIX
    122 | June 28, 2013 12:54 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    RIX wrote:
    Mavericks don’t constantly support the other team.
    Exactly. McRINO is on the other side. He only runs as a Republican because that’s what it takes to get elected in Arizona. He’d switch parties in a heartbeat if re-election were in it.

    But then he would stiff the Dems.
    It’s who he is.


  122. randian
    123 | June 28, 2013 1:02 pm

    This isn’t about loving bikes, it’s about hating cars. Tearing out vehicle lanes and replacing them with sidewalks and bike lanes is broken-windows economics. It also says to get the hell out, or never move to there in the first place. Any city that thinks so little of its citizens that it sees making transportation within its borders harder as a positive thing deserves censure.


  123. Speranza
    124 | June 28, 2013 1:07 pm

    randian wrote:

    This isn’t about loving bikes, it’s about hating cars.

    Oh absolutely and hating people who can afford to buy cars, and pay for insurance and repairs i.e. folks with disposable income.


  124. Speranza
    125 | June 28, 2013 1:10 pm

    RIX wrote:

    McRINO is on the other side. He only runs as a Republican because that’s what it takes to get elected in Arizona. He’d switch parties in a heartbeat if re-election were in it.

    No doubt in my mind he voted for Obama at least once.


  125. Speranza
    126 | June 28, 2013 1:11 pm

    McCain gets a large part of his support from retired veterans in Arizona.


  126. darkwords
    127 | June 28, 2013 2:10 pm

    @ 22 Rodan: I’ll agree with Rodan. The GoP is not articulating a creative future for all Americans. They are unable to explain business and individualism and patriotism in national commercials.

    I would guess the reason they can’t do that is that they have no passion for those ideas.


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