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Ed Morrissey still the master of the insanely stupid question.

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Filed under Blogmocracy, Guest Post, Republican Party at July 18th, 2013 - 6:35 pm

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Ed Morrissey today went out of his way to prove that he is still the absolute master of the sublimely stupid question. Opening up a “Open Thread” over at HotAir today with the following title.

Open thread, live video: Can Issa connect the dots in IRS hearing today?

posted at 10:41 am on July 18, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

According to Carl Cameron’s report of a conversation he had with Darrell Issa yesterday, today’s hearing in the House Oversight Committee will connect the dots in the IRS scandal all the way to the White House. That’s hardly a great strategy in setting expectations — unless Issa really knows he can deliver on that promise. Starting at 11 am, we’ll soon find out (via Common Cents and Gateway Pundit):

The star of today’s show will almost certainly be Carter Hull. When his name first popped up, it seemed that Hull might have been at the BOLO nexus, and possibly the key to the scandal. His testimony in depositions didn’t disappoint, either. Instead of being a driver of the effort, Hull told investigators that he had been placed in the “demeaning” position of having his approval authority stripped on Tea Party cases, which went to Washington and the IRS chief counsel’s office rather than concluded positively for the applicants, as he would have determined.

Expect Issa and Republicans to spend a lot of time with Hull, drawing him out on those points, and with Elizabeth Hofacre as well. She has been a gold mine of information on the lower-level operations, and will likely serve to rebut Democrats’ attempts to show equivalence between treatment of conservatives and progressives in the tax-exempt unit. That will balance out the efforts of Democrats on Oversight to pillory J. Russell George for not providing them that equivalence in the first place.

The fireworks should be spectacular today, with the hearing shifting from a veneer of bipartisanship earlier this summer to a full-fledged partisan battle to control the IRS scandal narrative now.

Darrell Issa is the consummate master of advancing the financial and political future of Darrell Issa and only Darrell Issa. If Darrell Issa isn’t personally profiting then nobody will profit, his words and actions become to quote William Shakespeare, “a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

Anyone foolish enough to expect anything else from Darrell Issa deserves the disappointment that they will certainly receive at the end of today’s hearing. Just as they deserved that disappointment for expecting Issa to deliver on the “Fast and Furious” hearings, and the “Benghazi” hearing or any other damned hears that Issa has held.

In the end, the conclusion of today’s hearings is about Darrell Issa selling the American people out for whatever he can, just as he always has.

(Cross Posted@The Wilderness of Mirrors)

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75 Responses to “Ed Morrissey still the master of the insanely stupid question.”
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  1. waldensianspirit
    1 | July 18, 2013 7:19 pm

    He does enough in public to let them know he knows. Then comes the back room deals; for Issa; not the American public


  2. heysoos
    2 | July 18, 2013 7:27 pm

    is Issa an elected official?…that explains 95% of his motives


  3. lobo91
    3 | July 18, 2013 7:43 pm

    Looks like McCain’s “deal” with the Dems went through:

    Radical Tom Perez Confirmed for Labor Secretary

    President Obama’s nominee for Labor Secretary, radical and former Department of Justice Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez, has been confirmed by the Senate after months of serious questions surrounding his record.

    The confirmation comes after a recent Inspector General report showed gross mismanagement, abuse and intimidation by Perez toward attorneys inside the Department of Justice. In particular, the complaints are in relation to the New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case.

    I guess his work is done at DoIJ, so now he’s moving on to Labor.


  4. darkwords
    4 | July 18, 2013 7:55 pm

    McCain will give and give and give expecting the promises made to him to be kept. McCains’s thing is Syria these days. I wonder what illusion he was promised. He is the Charlie Brown of politics.


  5. waldensianspirit
    5 | July 18, 2013 8:03 pm

    So far there hasn’t been a single Special Prosecutor in Obama’s Reign?


  6. darkwords
    6 | July 18, 2013 8:05 pm

    If it is as suggested then Obama was in the know about this. That type of content would be talked about in meetings.


  7. lobo91
    7 | July 18, 2013 8:06 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    So far there hasn’t been a single Special Prosecutor in Obama’s Reign?

    And there won’t be any, since the Independent Counsel statute was allowed to expire. Now it’s up to DoJ to prosecute government officials for official wrongdoing.

    Funny, huh?


  8. waldensianspirit
    8 | July 18, 2013 8:09 pm

    Scooter Libby Makes a Triumphant Return to Politics

    He can vote


  9. heysoos
    9 | July 18, 2013 8:14 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    So far there hasn’t been a single Special Prosecutor in Obama’s Reign?

    he’s hands off, untouchable


  10. waldensianspirit
    10 | July 18, 2013 8:15 pm

    Charles Barkley On Zimmerman Trial: “I Agree With The Verdict”

    CHARLES BARKLEY: Well, I agreed with the verdict. I feel sorry that young kid got killed. But they didn’t have enough evidence to charge him. Something clearly went wrong that night. Clearly something went wrong. I feel bad for anybody who loses a kid, but if you looked at the case and you don’t make it — there was some racial profiling, no question about it. But something happened that changed the dynamic of that night, and I know — that’s probably not a popular opinion among most people but just looking at the evidence I agreed with the verdict.

    I just feel bad because I don’t like when race gets out in the media because I don’t think the media has a pure heart, as I call it. There are very few people have a pure heart when it comes to race. Racism is wrong in any, shape, form — a lot of black people are racist too. I think sometimes when people talk about racism, they say only white people are racist. There are a lot of black people who are racist. I don’t like when it gets out there in the media because I don’t think the media has clean hands.


  11. RIX
    11 | July 18, 2013 8:18 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    Hmm, the Round Mound of Rebound makes
    some sense.


  12. heysoos
    12 | July 18, 2013 8:23 pm

    @ waldensianspirit:
    @ waldensianspirit:
    Sir Charles gets a lot of shit because he likes to drink and party, but he is not stupid…he’s a very bright guy and a lot of fun…one time in Phoenix he crushed some boob that made fun of his white wife, another time he tossed a midget through a wall in another Phoenix bar…he’s sort of one of a kind, but he played in the golden years, was a superstar, totally committed to the NBA and his team mates…I’m a big fan of his…he’s honest and does not give a shit who he pisses off


  13. heysoos
    13 | July 18, 2013 8:33 pm

    Barkley story…
    remember the 92 Dream Team?…at the Olympics…the USA decided to put pros out there like other countries did…I was watching a game, against like Lithuania or whoever…the US scores and as he ran upcourt he tossed a hard elbow into some guy, knocked him down and was immediately whistled for a foul…the guy made his shots and the blowout resumed…after the game Barkley was hanging with that very player and his wife and kids, taking pictures, signing autographs…the other player was stupified…they interviewed him and all he could gush was that Charles Barkley had fouled him!…him!…Barkley is the kind of guy that will fight you to the end on the court then buy you dinner and shoot some pool


  14. coldwarrior
    15 | July 18, 2013 8:51 pm

    Rep. Peter King (R- IRA) thinking of running for president.

    UP THE REPUBLIC!

    :lol:


  15. RIX
    16 | July 18, 2013 9:03 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    Rep. Peter King (R- IRA) thinking of running for president.

    UP THE REPUBLIC!

    If he campaigns on reducing the cost of
    Guiness & Jameson I’m in.


  16. brookly red
    17 | July 18, 2013 9:07 pm

    waldensianspirit wrote:

    Charles Barkley On Zimmerman Trial: “I Agree With The Verdict”

    CHARLES BARKLEY: Well, I agreed with the verdict. I feel sorry that young kid got killed. But they didn’t have enough evidence to charge him. Something clearly went wrong that night. Clearly something went wrong. I feel bad for anybody who loses a kid, but if you looked at the case and you don’t make it — there was some racial profiling, no question about it. But something happened that changed the dynamic of that night, and I know — that’s probably not a popular opinion among most people but just looking at the evidence I agreed with the verdict.

    I just feel bad because I don’t like when race gets out in the media because I don’t think the media has a pure heart, as I call it. There are very few people have a pure heart when it comes to race. Racism is wrong in any, shape, form — a lot of black people are racist too. I think sometimes when people talk about racism, they say only white people are racist. There are a lot of black people who are racist. I don’t like when it gets out there in the media because I don’t think the media has clean hands.

    of all the statements made in the media I actually respect his…


  17. coldwarrior
    18 | July 18, 2013 9:07 pm

    RIX wrote:

    If he campaigns on reducing the cost of
    Guiness & Jameson I’m in.

    he gets my vote as well!

    :lol:


  18. RIX
    19 | July 18, 2013 9:10 pm

    coldwarrior wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    If he campaigns on reducing the cost of
    Guiness & Jameson I’m in.

    he gets my vote as well!

    Yeah, I’ll drink to that!


  19. RIX
    20 | July 18, 2013 9:14 pm

    Hannity just had Congressman Bobby Rush
    on, the former black Panther Party Defense
    Minister.
    Rush is a legal genius. He said that if he was
    a juror on the Zimmerman case, he would
    have considered Zimmermans racial profiling.
    The reason? Ya ready? Because racial profiling
    exists. Brilliant!


  20. RIX
    21 | July 18, 2013 9:15 pm

    @ RIX:
    There is more . Rush also said that the eyewitness
    account that put Trayvon on top of Zimmerman
    is “conjecture”
    I wonder if he reads cursive?


  21. lobo91
    22 | July 18, 2013 9:17 pm

    @ RIX:

    I did like Steve King’s final comment:

    “What happened was a young Hispanic man shot a young black man in self defense, was tried and acquitted by a jury of women, and Bobby Rush thinks it’s a white man’s fault.”


  22. RIX
    23 | July 18, 2013 9:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    I did like Steve King’s final comment:

    “What happened was a young Hispanic man shot a young black man in self defense, was tried and acquitted by a jury of women, and Bobby Rush thinks it’s a white man’s fault.”

    Very direct and to the point.
    Rush is obviously addled. It was painful
    listening to him.


  23. lobo91
    24 | July 18, 2013 9:27 pm

    Tingles: Voter ID Laws Are An “Unforgivable,” “Assault On Black America”…

    CHRIS MATTHEWS, host: Let me finish tonight with this.

    I think the hearings this week up in Pennsylvania tell a huge story. They show how Republicans view voter suppression as their ticket to success.

    Here you have a party chairman saying that merely the attention given to a voter photo ID requirement — even one that the court would set aside — cut in half President Obama’s margin of victory in the state.

    Forty-one states had voter suppression bills introduced by Republicans last year. Do you think people are going to forget which party wanted them to be shut out from their democratic rights?

    Do you think parents might be telling their teenage children right now — perhaps on the verge of voting for the first time next year — to remember who wants them to vote and who doesn’t?

    Well, this effort by the Republican Party across the country — countenanced by RNC chair Reince Priebus – is an assault on black America that’s historic, that’s deliberate, that’s unforgettable, and, you could say, unforgivable.

    I’m starting to think that Matthews has been sampling Trayvon’s “lean.”


  24. RIX
    25 | July 18, 2013 9:32 pm

    I’m starting to think that Matthews has been sampling Trayvon’s “lean.”

    Could be, but I also think that his best friend
    is Jack Daniels.


  25. darkwords
    26 | July 18, 2013 9:32 pm

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr 31s
    .@piersmorgan @JayCaruso 1 thing you have zero ability to grasp is “fact”. “Stalking” didn’t happen, period. Jury system isn’t a “delusion”.

    The latest astrotruf trash being spread about zimmerman is the blood was self inflicted after Zimmerman purposely stalked Martin and killed him.

    A group of Americans want to void freedom.


  26. brookly red
    27 | July 18, 2013 9:33 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Tingles: Voter ID Laws Are An “Unforgivable,” “Assault On Black America”…

    /hey I just noticed something… my drivers licence has my picture on it wtf?


  27. lobo91
    28 | July 18, 2013 9:38 pm

    @ brookly red:

    So does mine. And so do my concealed carry permit and my military ID.

    Damn…3 photo IDs. I must be extra white.
    //


  28. brookly red
    29 | July 18, 2013 9:40 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    So does mine. And so do my concealed carry permit and my military ID.

    Damn…3 photo IDs. I must be extra white.
    //

    how many of those did you have to show to vote?


  29. lobo91
    30 | July 18, 2013 9:43 pm

    @ brookly red:

    how many of those did you have to show to vote?

    If I’d actually gone to the polling place, I would have had to show one of them.

    But I always vote absentee.


  30. yenta-fada
    31 | July 18, 2013 9:47 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr 31s
    .@piersmorgan @JayCaruso 1 thing you have zero ability to grasp is “fact”. “Stalking” didn’t happen, period. Jury system isn’t a “delusion”.
    The latest astrotruf trash being spread about zimmerman is the blood was self inflicted after Zimmerman purposely stalked Martin and killed him.
    A group of Americans want to void freedom.

    The Congressional Black Caucus is on the case!

    http://www.maggiesnotebook.com/2013/07/congressional-black-caucus-to-render-justice-for-trayvon-civil-rights-icons-a-bad-joke/


  31. RIX
    32 | July 18, 2013 9:48 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr 31s
    .@piersmorgan @JayCaruso 1 thing you have zero ability to grasp is “fact”. “Stalking” didn’t happen, period. Jury system isn’t a “delusion”.

    The latest astrotruf trash being spread about zimmerman is the blood was self inflicted after Zimmerman purposely stalked Martin and killed him.

    A group of Americans want to void freedom.

    Right then he picked up the dead Trayvon
    & put him on top of himself for the eyewitness
    to see.
    Wait the shot came after that!
    Ok, Zimmerman shot him first with a silencer.
    Then he put Travons dead body on him, removed
    the silencer & shot a round into the air.
    Yeah, that’s it!


  32. brookly red
    33 | July 18, 2013 9:50 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    how many of those did you have to show to vote?

    If I’d actually gone to the polling place, I would have had to show one of them.

    But I always vote absentee.

    btw the Ohio poll worker got 5 years…


  33. lobo91
    34 | July 18, 2013 9:51 pm

    @ RIX:

    And replaced the missing round in the magazine, since it was only short one.

    And picked up (and disposed of) the extra cartridge case.

    Not to mention disposing of the silencer.


  34. RIX
    36 | July 18, 2013 9:56 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    And replaced the missing round in the magazine, since it was only short one.

    And picked up (and disposed of) the extra cartridge case.

    Not to mention disposing of the silencer.

    See how sinister Zimmerman is?
    He took a Black girl to his prom.
    Then he defended a homeless Black
    man who was hassled by the police.
    As if that wasn’t enough he mentored
    Black children.
    All the while his diabolical plan from the
    time he was a rug rat was to hunt down
    and kill a fine clean cut young African
    American solid citizen like Trayvon.


  35. brookly red
    37 | July 18, 2013 10:03 pm

    RIX wrote:

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    And replaced the missing round in the magazine, since it was only short one.

    And picked up (and disposed of) the extra cartridge case.

    Not to mention disposing of the silencer.

    See how sinister Zimmerman is?
    He took a Black girl to his prom.
    Then he defended a homeless Black
    man who was hassled by the police.
    As if that wasn’t enough he mentored
    Black children.
    All the while his diabolical plan from the
    time he was a rug rat was to hunt down
    and kill a fine clean cut young African
    American solid citizen like Trayvon.

    wait for it I am sure Farakan will say he was sent back from the Zionist future (where all Hispanics have Jewish names) just to kill Trayvon who was destine to convert to Islam, be elected president and save the world by creating the American Caliphate… Zimmerman was a Craka-Terminator!


  36. RIX
    38 | July 18, 2013 10:13 pm

    wait for it I am sure Farakan will say he was sent back from the Zionist future (where all Hispanics have Jewish names) just to kill Trayvon who was destine to convert to Islam, be elected president and save the world by creating the American Caliphate… Zimmerman was a Craka-Terminator! -- @ brookly red:

    Reverend Mr Farakan would put the whole
    thing in perspective.
    Zimmerman was a zionist agent, no doubt.


  37. RIX
    39 | July 18, 2013 10:14 pm

    Good night all.


  38. Prebanned
    40 | July 18, 2013 10:17 pm

    @ brookly red:
    Dats Klassic Krahkha Diabolikashioushness Riaght Theare.


  39. brookly red
    41 | July 18, 2013 10:19 pm

    Prebanned wrote:

    @ brookly red:
    Dats Klassic Krahkha Diabolikashioushness Riaght Theare.

    heh, resistance be futile


  40. Bumr50
    42 | July 18, 2013 11:29 pm

    @ coldwarrior:
    @ RIX:

    Hey kids.

    Been puttin’ in a LOT of OT.

    Anyhoo, on the subject of “lean.”

    “Lean,” on the street and sold as it’s billed, has NO DXM in it, but prescription syrup with promethazine + codeine.

    If you’re “robo-trippin’” (Robitussin) off of “lean,” you’ve been had.

    Carry on!!


  41. Bumr50
    43 | July 18, 2013 11:30 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    I work with many youngsters -- my boss is cheap…


  42. 44 | July 18, 2013 11:34 pm

    buzzsawmonkey wrote:

    Buzz Ballad “Just Stand Your Ground” now up at the PJM Tatler.

    Buzzsawmonkey: Poet laureate of the dextrosphere


  43. Bumr50
    45 | July 19, 2013 12:44 am

    I want to be the girl with the most cake.

    So did she shoot him?


  44. Bumr50
    46 | July 19, 2013 1:23 am

    OK.

    F*ck all of you nonconversational a**es.

    Here’s one of the first songs that entered my consciousness as a young Bumr50.

    I remembering listening to this song on the way to the Penney’s at the Northern Lights shopping center in Baden, PA. The FM radio station kept advertising about the VIP Club there. And how I needed a “B-Card” to do really cool stuff there.

    I was only six, but definitely thought that I was missing out.

    The “B-Cards” were readily available at Stop-N-Go.

    I hope that I at least took CW down memory lane with that…


  45. Bumr50
    47 | July 19, 2013 1:26 am

    @ Bumr50:

    PS -- Darryl Hall can f*cking sing.


  46. The Osprey
    48 | July 19, 2013 1:38 am

    Allright, if we’re going down the ’70′s nostalgia highway…


  47. The Osprey
    49 | July 19, 2013 1:50 am

    What the heck ever happened to Phillip? He used to post great classical music on the overnights.


  48. Bumr50
    50 | July 19, 2013 1:55 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Dammit you’re conflating things!!!

    //

    :-)


  49. Bumr50
    51 | July 19, 2013 2:00 am

    @ The Osprey:

    Here’s my favorite “70′s” track.


  50. Bumr50
    52 | July 19, 2013 2:03 am

    @ Bumr50:

    And here’s my favorite 70′s track.


  51. coldwarrior
    53 | July 19, 2013 5:03 am

    Bumr50 wrote:

    I remembering listening to this song on the way to the Penney’s at the Northern Lights shopping center in Baden, PA. The FM radio station kept advertising about the VIP Club there. And how I needed a “B-Card” to do really cool stuff there.

    I was only six, but definitely thought that I was missing out.

    The “B-Cards” were readily available at Stop-N-Go.

    I hope that I at least took CW down memory lane with that…

    :lol:


  52. 54 | July 19, 2013 5:09 am

    Kids…


  53. 55 | July 19, 2013 7:13 am

    lobo91 wrote:

    Looks like McCain’s “deal” with the Dems went through:

    I’m about ready to call McStain…El Senador Maricon!


  54. Bumr50
    56 | July 19, 2013 7:32 am

    @ Macker:

    Hijo de puta.


  55. 57 | July 19, 2013 7:34 am

    @ Bumr50:

    Shit, I allready call him that, :cool:


  56. texasam7
    58 | July 19, 2013 7:49 am

    @ darkwords:
    He’s the President’s prank monkey. Sadly, he has no idea.


  57. eaglesoars
    59 | July 19, 2013 7:49 am

    I love MSNBC. It redefines ‘ridiculous’. They were pushing an idiotic column in National Journal magazine about how many of our ‘leaders’ attend only Harvard or Yale. That’s the reason for the disconnect between the peons and our betters. Also, Joe Scarborough is looking absolutely puffy. His eyes are barely visible.


  58. 60 | July 19, 2013 8:08 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    They were pushing an idiotic column in National Journal magazine about how many of our ‘leaders’ attend only Harvard or Yale.

    Ifg you’ll recall, one of the reasons they hacked on Sarah Palin so much was because she didn’t attend Harvard or Yale. They can’t have it both ways, though they try. I really find it distressing that so much of our government is tied to those two institutions. Number one, I am not impressed with the rigor of their programs. Neithe rone is MIT or CalTech in regards to that. If you get a PolySci degree or equivilent out of Harvard, all you’ve really done is study Marxism for four years. I did the same at Florida State, though I also had courses like Jurisprudance and an Honors Seminar on Social Contract doctrine. That is more on the Social Contract than I’d have gotten at Harvard or Yale. Still, had I gone to one of the “Elite” universities, I’d most likely hae a job in government, working in DC. I’d be making a lot more money, but I’d really hate working for the government. I like to actually do something useful with my work hours.


  59. eaglesoars
    61 | July 19, 2013 8:18 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Ifg you’ll recall, one of the reasons they hacked on Sarah Palin so much was because she didn’t attend Harvard or Yale.

    IIRC -- also that she bounced around among schools before she settled down somewhere.

    An interesting aspect that Glenn Reynolds has been covering for awhile -- how useless -- unless in a clearly tech field -- a degree has become -- not to mention a huge financial burden.

    Electricians are going to be a lot better off than philosophy majors -- if they’re not already


  60. 62 | July 19, 2013 8:26 am

    eaglesoars wrote:

    Electricians are going to be a lot better off than philosophy majors — if they’re not already

    I don’t know how the trades are set up down in the States. Up here we have trade unions. Electricians, carpenters, plumbers, HVAC, and so on. The unions have a huge stranglehold on their members and can stifle any discontent by cutting off the flow of work.

    Not to mention getting into some of these unions is extremely difficult. Family is the key, and in fact I have heard that the elevator unions are almost family business.


  61. Guggi
    63 | July 19, 2013 8:32 am

    Where did Trayvon live during his short life ? Was he pushed around between his mother/father/stepmother ? How many half-sisters and half-brothers does he have ? I know that his father has now at least four children with four different women. His mother has at least three children from three different men and have Tracy Martin and Alicia Stanley a child/children together ?

    In the life of this young man there was no stability and no responsible role model.


  62. eaglesoars
    64 | July 19, 2013 8:33 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    Up here we have trade unions.

    here also. Actually, I don’t think you can even get a license w/o them.

    Joe Scarborough can’t pronounce ‘New Orleans’


  63. eaglesoars
    65 | July 19, 2013 8:36 am

    back to bed


  64. 66 | July 19, 2013 8:37 am

    @ eaglesoars:

    Yeah, she did. Not unlike myself. I attended Florida State for three years, finished my BA at UT, and then got my computer sciendce degree at a community college. A lot of people fdo that, for various reasons. I wish I’d been able to finish up at FSU, but my life had become quite unmanagable there. Academically, I was doing OK. I didn’t lose my scholorship, but me and my first wife split up and I was unable to continue for emotional reasons. UT is a good school, too. This over-emphasis on Harvard and Yale points to a serious flaw in our hiring procedures. The truth is that you really don’t get a better education at Harvard than you do at UT, especially not in the majors that most Federal Employees come out of. And, too, plooking at the results in our government, it is really hard to make an arguement that we are getting the “best and brightest” by discriminating in favor of Harvard and Yale. Indeed, given the incompetance of our Federal Government, I’d say you could argue that we are gettin gsom eof the worst.

    And Glen is right about a college degree. Unless you are a STEM major a BA doesn’t mean much. There are still a lot of jobs that require a four-year degree to open the door, but the four-year degree does little to prepare you for life in the labor force. College isn’t just about partying. If it isn’t preparing you for a job (like Computer Science or Engineering does), then you are better going into the labor force as an electrician than you are taking out massive student loans to get the degree. I don’t regret getting my four-year degree, and it did teach me better ways to learn. I had a 3.0 for my BA, but a 4.0 for my computer science degreee. I had learned how to learn and study (something my putative “College Prep” courses in High School did not do), and tyhat has paid off professionally. But I didn’t take out a mountain of debt to go to college. If I’d had to pay for it, the BA wouldn’t have given me much ROI. Then, too, there is the Social Prestiege of having a four-year degree. A master plumber can make more money than I do as a software engineer, but socially the plumber is looked down upon. That isn’t right, but it is true.


  65. 67 | July 19, 2013 8:42 am

    Guggi wrote:

    How many half-sisters and half-brothers does he have ? I know that his father has now at least four children with four different women. His mother has at least three children from three different men

    Unfortunately, that is the home life for the vast majority of black kids. I think it is one of the reasons crim e is so high among blacks.


  66. Guggi
    68 | July 19, 2013 8:44 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    This over-emphasis on Harvard and Yale points to a serious flaw in our hiring procedures.

    I read a study recently that it doesn’t pay to go to Harvard or Yale to get a better job. You don’t. To get a better job coming from Harvard or Yale you need the correct background or some -- what we call here “Vitamine P” -- protection from an organization or a specific group etc.


  67. 69 | July 19, 2013 8:45 am

    PaladinPhil wrote:

    Not to mention getting into some of these unions is extremely difficult. Family is the key, and in fact I have heard that the elevator unions are almost family business.

    We have a lot of that going on in the United States, too. The Outlaw I roomed with in Virginia got inot the Boilermaker’s Union (considered a plum job) because one of his brother Outlaws was in the Union. Who you know opens doors. But we have people in the trades who aren’t unionized, too. I think our workforce is only about 15% unionized. There are twenty-something Right-to-Work States, and that has its advantages fo rthe common people. In places where the Union is everything, social mobility is pretty limited.


  68. Guggi
    70 | July 19, 2013 8:50 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    Unfortunately, that is the home life for the vast majority of black kids. I think it is one of the reasons crim e is so high among blacks.

    The sad thing is, this has already infected the white lower middle class and even more the Hispanic lower middle class. 57 percent of children born by Hispanic mothers are born out of wedlock. Alcohol, drugs and violence destroys now the lower white middle class in the U.S.


  69. 71 | July 19, 2013 8:55 am

    @ Guggi:

    Yeah, it is all who you know. Politics is rapidly degenerating into a de facto heredity nobel class in America. I am glad I didn’t go to Ivy League schools, because of the money. Had I gotten into the Military Academy, though, it would have been ideal. I wasn[t quite good enough for the Military Academy, though I did get the Congressional recommendation that was required. My family has no conections, so I know the recommendations (Naval Academy from Floyd Spence and Military Academy from Strom Thurmond) were based on merit, not connections.


  70. 72 | July 19, 2013 9:04 am

    @ Guggi:

    YEp, there is no doubt of that. The social stigma of having a child out od wedlock is gone. I am of mixed mind on that. It is better that the woman have the child rather than abort it, and the child is blameless in the matter of his or her own birth. But the social stigma served a good social purpose in keeping the number of such births down. There can be no doubt that the child is better off in a two-person stable home. Unfortunately, even when they parents get married and all divorce is very common in our society now. The average person gets divorced as often as not today. Wer have seen our culture degrade rapidly over the last 40 years. The Left has been hard at work undermining the culture, and the Right has been hard at work working. We need to fight the Left in the field of Education especially.


  71. Guggi
    73 | July 19, 2013 9:07 am

    @ Iron Fist:

    …and there is a crwoding out in the job market since more and more people hold a BA or a MA. Those with a MA displace those with a BA and those with a BA displace those without a college/university degree and so on.

    We have sourced out the mass production of goods and live now with the mass production of words.


  72. 74 | July 19, 2013 9:19 am

    Guggi wrote:

    We have sourced out the mass production of goods and live now with the mass production of words.

    Excellent way to put it. Yeah, i n a lot of way the BA has replaced the high school diploma. For one thing, over half of the people who attend college didn’t get the instruction they needed in high school. They need remediation jut to really have the equivilent of a high school diploma. Thus, many jobs that don’t really require college education nevertheless require that the prospective employee have a college education. My wife (who works as a technical writer) doesn’t have a college degree, but she went to a Catholic girls school, and received ample instruction. But, then, my wife is 12 years older than me. Schools were just plain better than when I came through, and they degraded significantly in the 14 years that passed between my experiences and those of my youngest sister. Schools today are abyssmal. If I had kids, they’d never darken a public school’s door. I’d probably end up home-schooling. I could certainly teach my kid(s) better than public school. There are some thing s that you can get in a public school that you can’t get home-schooling, but the level of instruction home-schoolers get is usually superior to the public school.


  73. Guggi
    75 | July 19, 2013 9:22 am

    Iron Fist wrote:

    The Left has been hard at work undermining the culture,

    This has been their sole agenda and they don’t hide it and never have. We didn’t take them serious enough, and why ? Because their strategy and their tactics are brilliant. When one of their insane demands pops up everyone says “o’common this will never happen” but ten years later it is the rule because it is all about emotions and feelings. They are small undemocratic groups but with their holistic structures politicians as well as people get the impression it is the “peoples will”.


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