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The inside story of Israel’s chemical and biological arsenal

by Speranza ( 71 Comments › )
Filed under Assassinations, Egypt, Hamas, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Middle East, Nuclear Weapons, Palestinians, Syria at September 19th, 2013 - 2:00 pm

Not only am I glad that Israel has chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, but I want to  know that Israel is prepared to use them in an emergency situation. It is nice to know about anti-missile systems such as Iron Dome, David’s Sling and Arrow III yet they are purely defensive weapons but putting the fear of God (or Allah) into your enemies is even more important.

by Mitch Ginsburg

Syria’s consent to a deal that would catalogue, locate and eventually see the destruction of its vast chemical weapons arsenal has brought Israel and its various arms programs closer to the international spotlight, raising questions about what it does and does not possess and what strategic purposes its weapons serve.

Speaking to Russia’s state-run Rossiya-24 TV last week, Bashar Assad called on Israel to sign all relevant international treaties. “If we want stability in the Middle East, all the countries in the region should stick to [international] agreements,” said the Syrian president, who is believed to have gassed his own people on seven different occasions, according to a new report from the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism. “And Israel is the first state that should do so, since Israel possessed nuclear, chemical, biological and all other kinds of weapons of mass destruction.”

 Israel, built on the ashes of the Holocaust and with a sense of persistent persecution etched into its consciousness, has in fact been drawn, since the earliest days of its existence, to those sorts of weapons. In April 1948, before the state declared its independence, future prime minister David Ben-Gurion, according to Michael Keren’s “Ben-Gurion and the Intellectuals,” instructed a Jewish Agency official in Europe to seek out Jewish scientists who could “either increase the capacity to kill masses or to cure masses; both are important.”

The search began with biological weapons. Avner Cohen, a professor of Nonproliferation Studies at the Monterey Institute of International Studies and an outspoken critic of Israel’s policy of ambiguity as regards WMDs, put the date at February 18, 1948, when the Haganah’s chief operations officer, Yigal Yadin, sent a microbiology student named Alexander Keynan down to Jaffa to establish a unit called HEMED BEIT.

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This potential, at least in part, apparently existed even before the founding of the state. Abba Kovner, the famous poet and partisan fighter, is depicted in Dina Porat’s “The Fall of a Sparrow: The Life and Times of Abba Kovner” as having traveled to pre-state Palestine after the war and receiving poison from Katzir in order to kill incarcerated SS officers in Europe.

He was apprehended on board a British ship and threw the poison overboard before his arrest.

Several years later, in May 1948, forces from the Carmel Brigade of the Haganah allegedly used a biological weapon in the battle for Acre.

“I spoke to the company commander from Battalion 21 of the Carmel Brigade, who poured the stuff into the water supply,” said military historian Uri Milstein in a phone interview. Milstein, a controversial figure in Israel, said that the man had since died, that the material had been delivered to the battalion by Moshe Dayan, and that the container had been filled with the typhus bacterium.

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After the war, HEMED BEIT relocated to a building in an orange grove just outside Ness Tziona, where it has remained. Today it is called the Israel Institute for Biological Research, “a governmental, applied research institute specializing in the fields of biology, medicinal chemistry and environmental sciences.”

The institute publishes a great deal of defense-related research and is widely cited academically and is highly regarded.

In terms of possible offensive capacities, very little is known.

What is clear is that Israel has not signed the 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention; that the deputy director of the biological institute, Professor Marcus Klingberg, was covertly arrested by the Shin Bet on January 19, 1983, and subsequently charged with spying for the KGB for more than three decades (Klingberg, perhaps the most damaging spy in Israel’s history, spent the first 10 years of his 20-year sentence in solitary confinement, under a pseudonym); and that on two occasions the Mossad attempted to assassinate people using biological weapons.

The first known Israeli assassination with biological weapons was Dr. Wadi Haddad, a Palestinian terrorist, who was the first to hijack an El Al plane, in July 1968, and one of the commanders of the Entebbe hijacking in 1976. One year later, he was given Belgian chocolate “coated by Mossad specialists with a lethal biological poison,” according to Aaron J. Klein’s “Striking Back.” [Full disclosure: this reporter translated the book.] He lost his appetite, he lost weight, and his immune system collapsed. On March 30, 1978, in an East German hospital, he died.

On September 25, 1997, shortly after 10 a.m., two Mossad combatants approached Hamas official Khaled Mashal and released into his ear a potentially fatal dose of a synthetic opiate called Fetanyl, according to foreign sources. ”I felt a loud noise in my ear. It was like a boom, like an electric shock. Then I had shivering sensation in my body like an electric shock,” Mashal told Alan Cowell of The New York Times.

Hamas leader Khaled Mashal, left, congratulates Mohammed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood party's leader for winning the biggest number of seats in parliamentary elections in Cairo, January 21, 2012 (photo credit: AP)

Within two hours he was close to respiratory collapse and would have died had Mishka Ben David, a senior Mossad officer, not provided the Jordanian authorities with the antidote.

Chemical weapons

In 1955, sure that war with Egypt loomed on the horizon, Ben-Gurion pushed the defense establishment to produce a nonconventional capacity to respond to any such assault from Egypt. “He ordered that this nonconventional capability be operationalized – i.e., weaponized and stockpiled – as soon as possible and before a war with Egypt broke out,” Cohen wrote in an article published in The Nonproliferation Review in the 2001 Fall-Winter edition. [........]

In June 1963 Egypt used chemical weapons in the Yemen civil war. The first usage was considered primitive. But in subsequent years and, most alarmingly from an Israeli perspective, in the months and days leading up to the Six Day War in 1967, Egypt fired chemical bombs on villages, killing hundreds; the last attack occurred on May 10, 1967, three weeks before the start of the war and four days before Egypt began amassing troops in the Sinai desert.

In July 1990, in perhaps the most straightforward indication of Israeli capacities, then-science minister Yuval Ne’eman was quoted in The New York Times as having told Israel Radio that if Saddam Hussein attacked Israel, ”In my opinion, we have an excellent response, and that is to threaten Hussein with the same merchandise.”

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Finally, last week Foreign Policy magazine discovered an old CIA document, which revealed that US spy satellites in 1982 located “a probable CW [chemcial weapon] nerve agent production facility and a storage facility… at the Dimona Sensitive Storage Area in the Negev Desert. Other CW production is believed to exist within a well-developed Israeli chemical industry.”

Syria and Israel

Presuming the CIA is correct and Israel has those weapons, or at least had them at one point and maintains the capacity to create them on demand, in what way does Syria’s recent agreement to destroy its chemical weapons change the picture?

The first element is time. Syria has agreed to list and locate its enormous chemical arsenal and for it to be destroyed by mid-2014. This is a highly optimistic timetable. “I’d say it’s somewhere between unreal and surreal,” said Ely Karmon, a senior research fellow at the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism and the teacher of a masters course on WMDs.

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In Libya, another Middle East state that is a signatory to both the chemical and biological weapons conventions, a mustard gas facility was found in the Jufra district in late 2011, Karmon noted. Aside from the fact that the discovery points, yet again, to the limits of any inspection regime, even a highly regarded one such as the Chemical Weapons Convention, it also speaks to the timetable. “More than two years later,” he said, “and the Libyan experts are now in Germany studying. They haven’t even begun the work [of destroying the weapons].”

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That is the cautious method. In Syria, it remains to be seen whether the deal includes the conveyance of the weapons to a destruction facility in Russia or the US or whether the intent is to destroy the weapons in Syria. Both options have drawbacks.

In Syria, Karmon said, there would be no way to build a destruction facility so long as the war raged on. This would mean either crudely disposing of the weapons, as was occasionally done in Iraq, or transporting them out of the country, either by truck or ship, which Karmon said is “very complicated and very dangerous.”

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While the two experts basically agreed that implementation within Syria was highly unlikely during the war, they largely disagreed about Israel’s reaction to Syria’s moves. Shoham said that while Iran had signed and ratified the CWC in March 1997 and the Biologocal Weapons Convention in 1973, the Islamic republic has amassed significant covert stores of chemical weapons. “So long as Iran and Egypt maintain their arsenals, Israel should not change its position,” he said.

Israel has clung to a policy of ambiguity. But while it has not so much as spoken a single official word about the BWC — Syria and Egypt signed the treaty but didn’t ratify it, and the latter is suspected of possessing some such weapons — it did sign the CWC on January 13, 1993. When the treaty was put into force in 1997, though, Israel remained on the sidelines and refrained from ratifying it.

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This position was wholeheartedly endorsed by Cohen, the author of “Israel and the Bomb” and “The Worst-Kept Secret: Israel’s Bargain with the Bomb.”

He said he “strongly doubts” Israel has deployable chemical or biological weapons in its arsenal at this time. If Syria stays on the path of disarmament, he added, Israel would do well to itself, to the region and to the world to follow suit, and of its own volition. “Already now Israel should tell the world we will contribute our own share at the right time to the international effort,” he said.

Ambiguity about those weapons makes no sense, he contended, “especially because Israel probably doesn’t have any. It’s just posturing.”

Regarding Israel’s alleged nuclear capacity and the possibility that ratifying the CWC and the BWC might, as he wrote in his article in The Nonproliferation Review, “be abused to infringe on the sanctity of Dimona,” Cohen said that “there are various safeguards in place” and that the likelihood of such an eventuality was low.

Moreover, from a military perspective and from a deterrence standpoint, Israel, which today is said to possess 80 nuclear warheads, according to a recent report in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, “has all the reasons in the world,” he said, “to join the global consensus in abolishing both chemical and biological weapons from the face of the earth.”

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  1. Speranza
    1 | September 19, 2013 2:01 pm

    The Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post should be read every day.


  2. 2 | September 19, 2013 2:16 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Haarertz is garbage.


  3. 3 | September 19, 2013 2:20 pm

    I’m not really comfortable with anybody having biological weapons. Engineered bacteria and viruses have too many downsides. Once you release them, you really don’t know where the infection will spread. One of the things that makes Anthrax a viable weapon is that it can only be contracted if you inhale the spores, which at least limits where the disease will spread, but still Anthrax spores can survive even hard radiation, so decontamination isn’t really possible. You’d turn whatever you hit into a permanent wasteland where no humans could tread without protective equipment. The real dangers, though, are in things like weaponized smallpox, which is one of the things that the Bush Administration was worried about in the aftermath of 9-11. The fact that that would kill more people in Mohammedn nations than it would in the United States isn’t really a deterrent to the Mohammedans. As they have shown us many times, they are more than willing to harm their own, especially if it meant harming the Great Satan. Spreading smallpox would be beyond trivial for them. Just infect 20 Mohammedans with the disease, wait for them to be contageous, and then put them on l=planes coming into some of America’s big cities. There really is no telling how many people that might kill.


  4. Speranza
    4 | September 19, 2013 2:21 pm

    Goldwaterite wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Haarertz is garbage.

    It is lower than garbage. Its columnists are out and out traitors.


  5. 5 | September 19, 2013 2:23 pm

    @ Speranza:

    The comment section is a collection of Islamists, Marxists, Neo-Nazis and Paleo-Cons. Every comment reads like Justin Raimondo.


  6. Speranza
    6 | September 19, 2013 2:26 pm

    Goldwaterite wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    The comment section is a collection of Islamists, Marxists, Neo-Nazis and Paleo-Cons. Every comment reads like Justin Raimondo.

    They feel right at home in a newspaper that publishes the rantings of Amira Hass and Gideon Levy. If you Google those two you will see scores of links to the Electronic Intifada, Mondoweiss, Max Blumenthal, al Jazeera, and tons of other Israel hating websites. Alouette probably likes those two (Levy and Hass).

    Lots of Eurotrash from Britain and Scandinavia comment on Ha’aretz. I suspect icewesael and Jimmah comment there as well.


  7. 7 | September 19, 2013 2:28 pm

    @ Speranza:

    Very Nasty people on that site.


  8. Speranza
    8 | September 19, 2013 2:30 pm

    Goldwaterite wrote:

    @ Speranza:
    Very Nasty people on that site.

    Like I said, they are the majority of posters on an Israeli newspape’sr website, people who hate Israel. On the JPOST there are some Israel haters but they are outnumbered.


  9. Speranza
    9 | September 19, 2013 2:33 pm

    Ian Lustick’s Hilarious New York Times Call for a One State Solution by the Knish.

    The New York Times is not exactly a pro Israel newspaper.


  10. lobo91
    10 | September 19, 2013 3:11 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    I’m not really comfortable with anybody having biological weapons. Engineered bacteria and viruses have too many downsides. Once you release them, you really don’t know where the infection will spread.

    There’s a reason no civilized nation even considers the use of biological weapons, and that’s it in a nutshell. There’s no way of predicting or containing the spread of such agents once they’ve been released into the environment.


  11. darkwords
    11 | September 19, 2013 3:33 pm

    China and the norks are a bigger threat than Israel. Any place there are scientists working on the micro world.

    It’s a liberal argument to be faced with Syrian sanctions and then say “What about Israel?” I trust Israel. I am not concerned about their weapons. We should encourage the break down of these islamic states and let them reform along natural lines. Avoid amping up a world war.


  12. 12 | September 19, 2013 3:43 pm

    @ darkwords:

    Israelis don’t have suicide bombing a a great sacrement in their religion. Mohammedans do. What still floors me about the hypocrisy of this Administration is the fact that they want Martha Stewart to have a criminal background check before she buys a .22, but they’ll send machineguns and explosives to al Qaeda and don’t even require them make the pretense of giving up terrorism, let alone have a background check. The Republicans could eat Obama’s lunch on that if they were only willing to.


  13. Speranza
    13 | September 19, 2013 3:55 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    China and the norks are a bigger threat than Israel.

    Israel is not a threat to any one.


  14. RIX
    14 | September 19, 2013 4:12 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    They are trying to make this crazy distinction that they are just going to arm the “moderate” rebels.
    And Al Qaeda is just a teeny, tiny part of the rebels and the rest sit around reading Jefferson,or something.


  15. lobo91
    15 | September 19, 2013 4:21 pm

    RIX wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:
    They are trying to make this crazy distinction that they are just going to arm the “moderate” rebels.
    And Al Qaeda is just a teeny, tiny part of the rebels and the rest sit around reading Jefferson,or something.

    And yet, Obama just issued a waiver on the law that forbids them from arming terrorist groups in order to do so.

    Wouldn’t that be an admission that they are, in fact, terrorists?


  16. Bumr50
    16 | September 19, 2013 4:23 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Wouldn’t that be an admission that they are, in fact, terrorists?

    Yes.

    It would be nice if someone in the WH press corps had enough balls to ask that question.


  17. lobo91
    17 | September 19, 2013 4:27 pm

    Meanwhile, it looks like the National Park Service has joined NASA on the “Islamic outreach” front:


  18. Speranza
    18 | September 19, 2013 4:28 pm

    RIX wrote:

    They are trying to make this crazy distinction that they are just going to arm the “moderate” rebels.

    McCain and Miss Lindsey not withstanding, there are no “moderate” rebels, however when they kill Syrian soldiers and Hezbollah terrorists I make a holiday in my heart.


  19. RIX
    20 | September 19, 2013 4:36 pm

    And yet, Obama just issued a waiver on the law that forbids them from arming terrorist groups in order to do so.

    Wouldn’t that be an admission that they are, in fact, terrorists?
    @ lobo91:

    Of course it is. This guy a bad, very bad joke.


  20. RIX
    21 | September 19, 2013 4:37 pm

    Speranza wrote:

    RIX wrote:

    They are trying to make this crazy distinction that they are just going to arm the “moderate” rebels.

    McCain and Miss Lindsey not withstanding, there are no “moderate” rebels, however when they kill Syrian soldiers and Hezbollah terrorists I make a holiday in my heart.

    There are no good guys involved in this, so we should just stay out of it.


  21. lobo91
    22 | September 19, 2013 4:41 pm

    @ RIX:

    That’s disgusting.

    But not surprising


  22. 23 | September 19, 2013 4:41 pm

    RIX wrote:

    This is as bad as it gets.

    That is what the Democrats are all about. They fucked up and got people killed, and now their only priority is saving their necks from the figurative chopping block. The Democrats will go to any lengths to prop Obama up. I expect that to continue, even if they lose both the House and the Senate in 2014. No matter what the truth is about Benghazi, the Obama Administration looks to have been at least terminally incompetant. If some of the theories for why Stevens was even in Benghazi are true, the Democrats are actively treasonous here. I don’t expect that we will ever know the full truth about Benghazi. At this stage, even if they came clean about it, how could we trust them after a year of lies and misinformation?


  23. RIX
    24 | September 19, 2013 4:42 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ RIX:

    That’s disgusting.

    But not surprising

    It’ brazen even for them. The lack of respect is appaling.


  24. RIX
    25 | September 19, 2013 4:46 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    The Democrats love to refer to Benghazi as a ‘Phony Scandal”, which is good news.
    That means that those four guys are still alive. So there really can’t be parents of the dead, since it didn’t happen.
    Yeah, that’s it , that’s the ticket. That’s why they walked out.
    This should be wall to wall on the news, but it won’t be.


  25. RIX
    26 | September 19, 2013 4:51 pm

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/09/19/whoa-jaw-dropping-anti-obamacare-ad

    This you have to see. The Dear Leader will not be pleased.


  26. 27 | September 19, 2013 4:52 pm

    RIX wrote:

    This should be wall to wall on the news, but it won’t be.

    I agree. Benghazi is far worse than Watergate ever dreamed of being. Nobody died in Watergate. Obama cut those men off and let them be killed without even trying to support them. The gun battle went on for seven hours. They didn’t even try to relieve them. It would be one thing if they’d tried and failed (though that would be damning enough), but to not even try? Benghazi would bring down a Republican President. As it is, we should tie the Democrat’s obstructionism around their necks like an albatross. It should factor in the Senate and House races next fall. Senator Such and Such, why did you walk out and not even hear the testimony of the families of the men who died in Benghazi? Why have you supported the Administration’s stonewalling? And so forth. These people are going to have a record about Benghazi by the time the election rolls around next year. Make them explain themselves.


  27. RIX
    28 | September 19, 2013 5:00 pm

    @ Iron Fist:
    Hang the Dems with Benghazi. Remember the BS about Romney killing a woman?
    This is true though, at least two of these guys died due to inaction.
    Where was Obama that night, where was Hillary?


  28. RIX
    29 | September 19, 2013 5:04 pm

    Later Gators


  29. 30 | September 19, 2013 5:08 pm

    RIX wrote:

    Where was Obama that night, where was Hillary?

    Two questions that we will likely never know the answer to. I think it would be most instructive to find out what Obama was doing, and I really want to know who gave the “Stand Down” orders to the military. Those orders have to be in writing somewhere. There’s no way mid-level functionaries took that kind of responsibility on their own. My guess is that Obama was the one who made that call. Technically Pannetta coudl have also made it, but I just don’t think would have done that. He’s too much the bureaucrat. He’d have demanded that order be in writing, even if it came from Obama himself. And nobody else had the authority to make that call. This wasn’t just something that blew up and was over quickly. Those men held out for seven hours. There was more than ample time to respond. Those people were cut off and allowed to die. A cynical person might hypothesize that Obama wanted them to die to shut them up.


  30. Bumr50
    31 | September 19, 2013 5:46 pm

    Don Lemon may be looking for a new job soon.

    ‘LET’S TALK ABOUT GUNS’: CNN ANCHOR SAYS THIS IS MAKING HIM RETHINK HIS STANCE ON GUNS

    ht -- The Blaze

    “Deviance from the narrative WILL NOT be tolerated!!!”


  31. lobo91
    32 | September 19, 2013 5:55 pm

    @ Bumr50:

    Anyone who embeds a video on their site that starts playing automatically should be beheaded.


  32. 33 | September 19, 2013 5:56 pm

    @ Bumr50:
    Yeah, I saw that. I don’t really know who this guy is. I don’t watch CNN. Bbit he is really stepping away from the reservation there. The Left insists on disarming American, but gun control loses elections. We just proved that In Colorado. One of the people removed was from a very strongly Democrat region. If she lost her job over gun control, it doesn’t bode well for the Democrats. That’s why you won’t see te Dems move on gun control after this latest shooting. They’d like to keep control of the Senate. Pushing for gun control won’t help them do that.


  33. eaglesoars
    34 | September 19, 2013 5:59 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    but gun control loses elections.

    those two morons who lost beg to differ -- it was voter suppression! we was robbed!!


  34. 35 | September 19, 2013 6:00 pm

    @ lobo91:
    I’ll second that! It is worse than the popunders that so many sites have gone to to get past pop-up blockers. Making your site unusable isn’t good marketing. Banner ads should serve the purpose well enough. I understand these places néed to have a revenue stream to stay in business, but don’t do something designed to piss me off.


  35. Bumr50
    36 | September 19, 2013 6:00 pm

    @ lobo91:

    While I agree with the sentiment, I’d rather NOT behead the folks at Breitbart.

    Detention, maybe?


  36. Bumr50
    37 | September 19, 2013 6:01 pm

    @ lobo91:

    OR The Blaze…

    There are several folks at ESPN who deserve a good beheading…

    //


  37. 38 | September 19, 2013 6:03 pm

    @ eaglesoars:
    Yeah, they can keep telling themselves that, but Clinton even acknowledged that the Assault weapons ban cost him the Congress. That’s why Diane Feinstein could only get 40 votes for her effort to pass it again.


  38. lobo91
    39 | September 19, 2013 6:14 pm

    University of Kansas Professor Says He Hopes NRA Members’ Children Are Murdered…

    A journalism professor at the University of Kansas (KU) turned to Twitter on Monday to suggest he would like to see the murder of children of National Rifle Association (NRA) members at the hands of a deranged gunman.

    “#NavyYardShooting The blood is on the hands of the #NRA,” tweeted David Guth, who is an associate professor of Journalism at the university’s William Allen White School of Journalism.\

    Speaking with Campus Reform on Wednesday, Guth confirmed it was he who sent the controversial tweet.

    “Hell no, hell no, I do not regret that Tweet,” he said. “I don’t take it back one bit.”


  39. 40 | September 19, 2013 6:21 pm

    @ lobo91:
    And they wonder why we want guns. Make no mistake, these people would have us in concentration camps if they could. They certainly have no trouble killing us if it comes down to enforcing their morality on us. This guy is an anti-civil rights bigot. There’s no difference between him and Orville Faubus. Hell, they’re even both Democrats.


  40. lobo91
    42 | September 19, 2013 6:50 pm

    Here’s a list of the Dems who walked out on the Benghazi families this afternoon:

    Carolyn Maloney
    Danny Davis
    Eleanor Holmes Norton
    Gerald E. Connolly
    Jim Cooper
    John Tierney
    Mark Pocan
    Matt Cartwright
    Michelle Lujan Grisham
    Peter Welch
    Stephen Lynch
    Steven Horsford
    Tammy Duckworth
    Tony Cardenas
    William Lacy Clay


  41. brookly red
    43 | September 19, 2013 6:57 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Here’s a list of the Dems who walked out on the Benghazi families this afternoon:

    Carolyn Maloney
    Danny Davis
    Eleanor Holmes Norton
    Gerald E. Connolly
    Jim Cooper
    John Tierney
    Mark Pocan
    Matt Cartwright
    Michelle Lujan Grisham
    Peter Welch
    Stephen Lynch
    Steven Horsford
    Tammy Duckworth
    Tony Cardenas
    William Lacy Clay

    the shit has not hit the fan yet but they are in the same room.


  42. coldwarrior
    44 | September 19, 2013 7:11 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    A journalism professor at the University of Kansas

    you expect anything else form a journo major?

    cupcake degree professor offering cupcake tripe to his cupcake readers.


  43. 45 | September 19, 2013 7:17 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I’d be surprised if there were any reprecussions for this. Shue, it is egreiegous and offensive, but these are Democrats from Democrat safe districts. A little (or a lot) of disrespect to soldiers who died in service to this country may gain them votes.


  44. brookly red
    46 | September 19, 2013 7:28 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I’d be surprised if there were any reprecussions for this. Shue, it is egreiegous and offensive, but these are Democrats from Democrat safe districts. A little (or a lot) of disrespect to soldiers who died in service to this country may gain them votes.

    there may not be repercussions from this because this IS a repercussion… they are confounded and shamed by the truth and scatter like roaches discovered by light each seeking their own little filthy hole to hide in.


  45. 47 | September 19, 2013 7:36 pm

    @ brookly red:

    This is kind of like a three year old covering his ears and screaming “I can’t hear you!” repeatedly. The sad thing is that they get away with this kind of behavior an awfully lot.


  46. brookly red
    48 | September 19, 2013 7:42 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    This is kind of like a three year old covering his ears and screaming “I can’t hear you!” repeatedly. The sad thing is that they get away with this kind of behavior an awfully lot.

    No I think it be different this time, innocent blood was spilled and there will be a reckoning.


  47. lobo91
    49 | September 19, 2013 7:42 pm

    @ Iron Fist:

    Earlier in the same hearing, Elijah Cummings said that the whitewashed ARB report was “one of the most thorough” investigations he’s ever seen.


  48. brookly red
    50 | September 19, 2013 7:46 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    @ Iron Fist:

    Earlier in the same hearing, Elijah Cummings said that the whitewashed ARB report was “one of the most thorough” investigations he’s ever seen.

    Elijah Cummings, Hah!

    Their drink is sour: they have committed whoredom continually: her rulers with shame do love, Give ye.


  49. 51 | September 19, 2013 7:50 pm

    @ brookly red:

    I hope you are right, but I am doubtful. They’ve been covering up for over a year now. They aren’t especially good at it. Everybody knows that they are covering up. We just don’t know what they are covering up. Usually it isn’t the crime that gets you, it’s the coverup. This time, though, I have a feeling that they are going to get away with the coverup.


  50. 52 | September 19, 2013 7:52 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Elijah Cummings

    Consider the source. He probably believes that Obama was born from Immaculate Conception.


  51. darkwords
    53 | September 19, 2013 7:59 pm

    @ 45 Iron Fist: That action should be flooded into their districts via all news all the time.


  52. darkwords
    54 | September 19, 2013 8:03 pm

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr 11m
    .@GOPBlackChick Have u heard the @SecretService has nothing better to do than to “investigate” my brother… Your thoughts? Mine: #Fail

    Secret Service? How did Obama frame the idea that Zimmerman is a danger to public health and the White house?


  53. brookly red
    55 | September 19, 2013 8:04 pm

    Iron Fist wrote:

    @ brookly red:

    I hope you are right, but I am doubtful. They’ve been covering up for over a year now. They aren’t especially good at it. Everybody knows that they are covering up. We just don’t know what they are covering up. Usually it isn’t the crime that gets you, it’s the coverup. This time, though, I have a feeling that they are going to get away with the coverup.

    I don’t hope they will be punished, I believe and have faith they will be punished. Unfortunately we as a people will share in their condemnation.


  54. brookly red
    56 | September 19, 2013 8:06 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    Robert Zimmerman JR ‏@rzimmermanjr 11m
    .@GOPBlackChick Have u heard the @SecretService has nothing better to do than to “investigate” my brother… Your thoughts? Mine: #Fail

    Secret Service? How did Obama frame the idea that Zimmerman is a danger to public health and the White house?

    he didn’t bend over and take it, in that sense he IS a major threat.


  55. brookly red
    57 | September 19, 2013 8:19 pm

    well if I am to kill a thread let it be a clean kill.

    The wind hath bound her up in her wings, and they shall be ashamed because of their sacrifices.


  56. darkwords
    58 | September 19, 2013 8:23 pm

    He killed three more individuals (and wounded 22 others) before being killed by Senior Airman Andrew Brown, a security policeman on bike patrol. Airman Brown stopped the gunman at a range of 70 yards, firing four shots from his 9mm pistol. One of the bullets struck the shooter between the eyes. It was a remarkable feat of marksmanship.


  57. darkwords
    59 | September 19, 2013 8:24 pm

    @ 56 brookly red: Rodan might have a secret service tail…….


  58. darkwords
    60 | September 19, 2013 8:27 pm

    To borrow another “Buddy-ism,” that isn’t leadership, it’s chickenship. And it’s high time the military started holding those feckless “leaders” accountable.


  59. The Osprey
    61 | September 19, 2013 8:29 pm

    @ darkwords:

    You set a link to the Former Spook blog…what is the specific story you were trying to link to?


  60. taxfreekiller
    62 | September 19, 2013 8:29 pm

    Rain on Delta County Texas, at last.

    The wheat we dusted in got what it needed the last hour or two and looks like more to come.

    Ms tfk and I are going to sit on the back porch and get rid of a twelve pack and sleep on the screened in part of the porch tonight in honor of the rain gods.

    http://www.wattsupwiththat.com

    CO2 is plant food.

    EPA is crime central.


  61. darkwords
    64 | September 19, 2013 8:32 pm

    By gaining American certification of the most important role Moscow has ever played in the Middle East, Putin has achieved in a week what no Soviet or Russian leader managed to do in a century.


  62. darkwords
    65 | September 19, 2013 8:33 pm

    @ The Osprey: His main post. Didn’t click into the story there….. will next time


  63. taxfreekiller
    66 | September 19, 2013 8:34 pm

    Of some note on the leaders of the Navy.

    They covered up for Lt. John F. Kerrys treason and continue to cover up his lies and acts of treason to this very hour.

    There is a two party evil money cult in Washington D.C. who have upsured our Constitution and dishonor the rule of law every day.


  64. darkwords
    67 | September 19, 2013 8:35 pm

    @ 63 lobo91: Obama is a joke. I would easily have applied force in that situation. I wouldn’t care about blowback or hurt feelings by allies.


  65. darkwords
    68 | September 19, 2013 8:38 pm

    @ 66 taxfreekiller: sooner or later some one has to succeed in stamping out these roaches.


  66. brookly red
    69 | September 19, 2013 8:43 pm

    lobo91 wrote:

    Admiral Mullen Admits Special Forces Told To “Hold In Place” During Terror Attack On Benghazi Consulate…

    the night it happened I said it would bring down the Administration… I still stand by that.


  67. brookly red
    70 | September 19, 2013 8:45 pm

    taxfreekiller wrote:

    There is a two party evil money cult in Washington D.C. who have upsured our Constitution and dishonor the rule of law every day.

    well yes. now what?


  68. brookly red
    71 | September 19, 2013 8:47 pm

    darkwords wrote:

    @ 56 brookly red: Rodan might have a secret service tail…….

    we are all just citizens and that scares the shit out of those who would have us subjects.


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