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Majority of Americans want immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan

by Rodan Comments Off
Filed under Headlines, Islamic Terrorism, Sharia (Islamic Law), Taliban at May 5th, 2012 - 9:00 am

Americans are tired of nation building Islamic countries. They have seen their relatives and neighbors die and get wounded to help a bunch of pedophillic ungrateful savages. Americans also oppose any long term agreement that commits the US to propping up the corrupt Narco regime of the Karzai mafia.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Most Americans want U.S. troops out of Afghanistan and oppose a significant long-term commitment to support that nation’s economy and security, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Friday.

But the poll also indicated that most Americans favor keeping some U.S. forces in Afghanistan to help train that nation’s troops, and to continue missions targeting al-Qaeda.

Taken together, the findings suggest “Americans essentially want to be done with Afghanistan,” said Ipsos pollster Chris Jackson.

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lmost two-thirds of the 776 Americans surveyed in the online poll said they did not want Washington to be committed to supporting Afghan economic and security development that long.

Seventy-seven percent said they wanted all U.S. combat troops – excluding trainers and special forces – to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2012. Nearly the same amount, 73 percent, said they did not want the United States to establish any permanent military bases in Afghanistan.

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Six out of ten Americans said they favored having the United States keep forces in Afghanistan to conduct missions targeting al-Qaeda and 57 percent were in favor of having troops in the country to help with training.

Mitt Romney should heed this poll. He is advocating more nation building in Afghanistan which is opposed by most voters. Romney needs to realize that Americans are tired of nation building and wnat nothing to do with the Islamic world. One area I have no beef with is keeping small special forces in Afghanistan to kill Al-Qaeda or Taliban terrorists. Other than that, we need to go. We need to economically and fiscally rebuild our own nation.

Majority of Republicans against Afghanistan war

by Rodan ( 4 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Elections 2012, Headlines, Mitt Romney, Republican Party at April 12th, 2012 - 3:36 pm

For the first time, a majority of Republicans are now against the Afghans war. This puts Mitt Romney in a difficult position, since he has declared he will keep troops there indefinitely.

A majority of Republicans say for the first time that the war in Afghanistan has not been worth fighting, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll that comes as the continuing U.S. presence in that country is emerging as a key point of contention in the presidential race.

The poll findings are likely to present a challenge for Republican front-runner Mitt Romney, who has said that the goal in Afghanistan should be to defeat the Taliban on the battlefield.

Mitt Romney should heed this poll. The Pharaoh could use this issue against Romney. Americans are tired of our soldiers dying for a tribal savage society. Our troops deserve better.

Geraldo Rivera speaks common sense on Afghanistan

by Rodan ( 1 Comment › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Dhimmitude, Headlines, Islamists, Taliban at March 16th, 2012 - 6:47 pm

Geraldo Rivera is a controversial character. When he’s right, he’s right. On Fox and Friends he speaks the truth on the futility of staying in Afghanistan.

Can’t disagree with Gerlado on this. Nation building is a failed policy. The sooner our elites understand that, the less Americans will be killed.

60% of Americans feel Afghanistan was not worth it

by Rodan ( 4 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Headlines, Islamic Supremacism, Islamic Terrorism, Sharia (Islamic Law), Taliban at March 12th, 2012 - 10:01 am

The nation building mission in Afghanistan has become toxic with Americans. 60% of the Americans feel the war was not worth it. 54% want an immediate withdrawal.

Sixty percent of Americans say the war in Afghanistan has not been not worth fighting and just 30 percent believe the Afghan public supports the U.S. mission there — marking the sour state of attitudes on the war even before the shooting rampage allegedly by a U.S. soldier this weekend.

Indeed a majority in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll, 54 percent, say the United States should withdraw its forces from Afghanistan without completing its current effort to train Afghan forces to become self-sufficient.

Americans are sick of dying for Islamic democracy.

US Soldier snaps and kills 16 Afghans

by Rodan ( 17 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Headlines, Islam at March 11th, 2012 - 12:59 pm

A US soldier snapped and shot up 16 Afghans. Clearly being in a hostile environment and having had  your friends killed by your supposed allies can make one have a mental breakdown. This appears to be the case with this soldier.

KABUL — An American soldier wandered outside his base in a remote southern Afghan village shortly before dawn Sunday and opened fire on civilians inside homes, killing at least 16, Afghan and U.S. officials said.

The attack marked perhaps the grisliest act by a U.S. soldier in the decade-long Afghan war and seemed all but certain to stoke anti-American anger in a crucial battleground as foreign troops start to thin out in the south. Afghan officials said women and children were among those killed in Panjwai district of Kandahar province, the birthplace of the Taliban movement.

The soldier’s impulsive act will now land him in jail and ruin his career.

David Warren admits he was wrong about the concept of Democracy Spreading

by Rodan ( 50 Comments › )
Filed under Conservatism, September 11, Special Report, Terrorism, The Political Right at March 1st, 2012 - 8:30 am

In the aftermath of 9/11 most the West’s elites and opinion makers believed Democracy could be exported to the islamic world. People like me, who spoke out against this concept, were called communists, Al-Qaeda supporters and even traitors. When I would express my method of retaliation, which was nation destruction, I would get called a Nazi. Critics of Bush’s “freedom” agenda were silenced and mocked in the Conservative blogosphere. Unfortunately, we have been vindicated but at the loss of 5,ooo American lives and 40,000 wounded in the Afghan and Iraq wars. Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh have turned on the war realizing its uselessness..

Ottowa Citizen columnist, David Warren, admits he was wrong on the concept of exporting Democracy. He had been a supporter of the freedom agenda, but admits it was wrong.

When one cannot trust one’s own allies not to murder one, one is in a fix. It is not an unusual fix, as the history of this planet goes, and particularly the history of Afghanistan. But the circumstances in which two American officers at the Interior Ministry in Kabul lost their lives on Saturday were discouraging. The assailant seems to have been an Afghan police intelligence officer. That says something. That he was able to escape after the shootings says more.

The incident was one of many which followed news of the Koran burnings at the Bagram airfield. That event, from what I can gather, was reported in detail within Afghanistan. I am not being droll here: I mean the fact that the tomes were tossed in the “burn pit” by mistake, having already been defaced by Taliban prisoners who were using them to pass messages, was widely circulated. To the western mind, this should make a difference in the perceived profanation: intention always counts.

But to the mind of many Afghan people, quite capable of stoning a woman to death for adultery after she has been raped, it made no difference. Nor, dare I add, could President Barack Obama’s public apology over the affair make any difference: for it was the kind of profanation for which apologies are not accepted. Obama, consciously doing “the right thing” to defuse tensions, is consistently out of his depth in dealing with these matters; for despite his own Islamic background in Kenya, and Indonesia, he is a product of Ivy League America. George W. Bush would have done the same.

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As it is the 29th of February, let me perform an uncustomary retraction. Looking back over the history of the last 10 years, through which I have been writing these columns, I’m now persuaded of a major misjudgment. While I supported the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq — still do, and “would do it again” without qualms — I see ever more clearly that the “Bush doctrine” of exporting “democracy” was an unnecessary mistake.

Our interests in these countries were military; we had dangerous enemies to destroy. That was achieved with dispatch by U.S. and allied forces: with remarkably few casualties all round. We had a continued interest in preventing the return of the Taliban to power in Afghanistan, and in the destruction of Islamist cells in Iraq. All fine and good: these were necessary adventures, for the defence of legitimate western interests.

I feel no happiness that the Right is now agreeing with what I have been saying after 9/11. Too many Americans have died and the bad feelings caused by debating these wars has harmed many online friendships in the Conservative blogosphere. We should not cry over spilled milk. Instead the Right should vow to never again engage in nation building or exporting democracy. What we should do in retaliation against islamic terror is nation destruction.

Newt Gingrich calls for leaving Afghanistan

by Rodan ( 8 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Elections 2012, Headlines, Republican Party at February 27th, 2012 - 7:34 pm

I have been a lonely voice on the Right calling Afghanistan a lost cause. Many stubbornly believe in continuing the nation building project there. Well after the riots over the Koran burning and the killing of American troops, Newt Gingrich has had enough. He said fixing Afghanistan is not possible.

NASHVILLE – Newt Gingrich on Monday said the United States is trying to achieve the impossible in Afghanistan amid escalating violence over the burning of Qurans on a U.S. military base.

Speaking at a luncheon attended by local Republicans here, Gingrich briefly touched on the war in Afghanistan, where two U.S. military officers were gunned down during violent protests last week. The U.S. military has said the Muslim holy books were burned by mistake at Bagram Airfield. Gingrich has criticized President Barack Obama for apologizing for the incident.

“We are not going to fix Afghanistan. It is not possible,” Gingrich said. “These are people who have spent several thousand years hating foreigners. And what we have done by staying is become the new foreigners.

“This is a real problem. And there are some problems where you have to say, ‘You know, you are going to have to figure out how to live your own miserable life … because you clearly don’t want to learn from me how to be unmiserable.’ And that is what you are going to see happen.”

Newt Gingrich will now come under assault by the Tranzi Progressive wing of the GOP led by John McCain, Ms. Lindsey, Karl Rove and Bill Kristol. Don’t back off Newt tell Republicans the truth. Afghanistan is a waste of time at this point. These people are pedophile savages and deserve their miserable hell hole. We need nation building at home.

American gives The Afghans a piece of her mind

by Rodan ( 5 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Dhimmitude, Headlines, Islamists, Taliban at February 24th, 2012 - 8:50 pm

This woman speaks for how many Americans feel.

Bravo!

Pakistan cuts off US supply lines to Afghanistan

by Rodan ( 30 Comments › )
Filed under Afghanistan, Al Qaeda, Dhimmitude, Islam, Islamic Supremacism, Islamists, Pakistan, Sharia (Islamic Law), Special Report, Taliban at November 26th, 2011 - 2:07 pm

NATO/US forces attacked and killed 28 Pakistani troops on the Afghan border. In retaliation Pakistan has cut off the supply routes to US/NATO forces in Afghanistan. This means the US will have to rely on airlifts through Central Asia and Russian airspace.

(Reuters) – NATO helicopters and fighter jets attacked two military outposts in northwest Pakistan near the Afghan border on Saturday, killing as many as 28 troops and plunging U.S.-Pakistan relations deeper into crisis.

Pakistan retaliated by shutting down vital NATO supply routes into Afghanistan, used for sending in nearly half of the alliance’s shipments by land.

The attack is the worst incident of its kind since Pakistan uneasily allied itself with Washington immediately following the September 11, 2001 attacks on U.S. targets.

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Hours after the raid, NATO supply trucks and fuel tankers bound for Afghanistan were stopped at Jamrud town in the Khyber tribal region near the city of Peshawar, officials said.

The border crossing at Chaman in Baluchistan was also closed, Frontier Corps officials said.

“We have halted the supplies and some 40 tankers and trucks have been returned from the check post in Jamrud,” Mutahir Zeb, a senior government official, told Reuters.

Read the rest: Pakistan stops NATO supplies after raid kills up to 28

The Afghan War is a waste. Our soldiers are fighting and dying to prop up the corrupt Islamic-Narco regime of Hamid Karzai. Afghan heroin is now cheap and has flooded US streets. This is what the war has accomplished. We have made Afghanistan safe for Heroin growers. It’s time to level the place and completely destroy the Afghan nation and society. The answer is a Carthaginian solution. After we destroy the place, we should leave.

Nation building has failed.

Pew Poll: 2 in 3 Vets Thinks Iraq/Afghan Wars Are a Waste

by coldwarrior ( 13 Comments › )
Filed under Headlines, Military, Polls at October 5th, 2011 - 8:00 pm

Veterans who served on active duty during the post-9/11 era consider themselves more patriotic than other Americans, and most see the military as an efficient and meritocratic institution. They have a more positive view than the general public about the overall worth of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars and the tactics the military has used to wage them. Even so, only one-third (34%) of these veterans say that both wars have been worth fighting.

Read the rest here, its is a rather long poll with lots of info.

 

Veterans and members of active duty combat units tend not to be neo-con, nation building, democracy for our enemies the muslims fans.

 

The reason is, they, unlike Bill Kristol et al. actually have to do the hard work.